One Arsene Wenger...

[Marc Overmars]

This is weird to me when you say there is an army of people ready to take its place. Why!?!? We play boring football and we dont look like challenging for any top honors. Why are people so ready to lap up this serving of bland average football? Surely Chelsea is a better bet for the bandwagoners to go to..

Supporting the club and more importantly attending games is a way of life, you have to remember this is Arsenal FC not Wenger FC.

Even though I don't like what I'm seeing on the pitch anymore, if I had a grand going spare I would definitely get a season ticket.

[fakeyank]

Chelsea are a better bet for the band-waggoners now but we had a fairly sustained period of success, 7 years of trophies, great football, fantastic players. We were a big club to begin with and that period generated a massive global fanbase, a whole generation of kids who are now stuck with Arsenal as their team.
Some idiots even come all the way from America to watch us
Them

I was young and naive..

My fiance still wants to go to an Arsenal game, so I probably will fly down again to watch them. I hate being a fan

[fakeyank]

Supporting the club and more importantly attending games is a way of life, you have to remember this is Arsenal FC not Wenger FC.

Even though I don't like what I'm seeing on the pitch anymore, if I had a grand going spare I would definitely get a season ticket.

So you are the culprit!

[fakeyank]

Do you feel inclined to support Chelsea ?

There are enough people on the waiting list to become season ticket holders for the club not to panic

We are the third biggest supported club in the country, club allegiance isn't as fluid as you think

Did I say I wanted to support Chelsea?

I am not questioning people's allegiance to Arsenal, what I am questioning is the lack of action. Why are frustrated people still waiting in line for an inferior product? I am not saying we fans stop loving Arsenal, I am asking why we are not taking action about the massive gap between what our potential and what we see on the pitch.

[mr_brighterside]

His legacy has been tainted, I'd agree, but is it that hard to remember the great teams? You don't have any problem remembering the 'wonderful' 92/93 team who, frankly, were awful to watch. That season had a happy finish (which could easily have gone the other way) but 80% of it was horrible, we finished about 7 points above relegation, scored something like 40 goals in 42 games. It was boring boring Arsenal and their boring boringest.

The teams in the first half of Wenger's reign were far, far better and I feel priviledged to have had a season ticket during that period. Clough took Forest down in the end and I believe he's still regarded highly by Forest fans. All Wenger's done is taken us from first to fourth and he's vilified. He certainly deserves some stick and I think we all agree it's time for him to move on now but the legacy of the trophies, great football and steering us through the stadium move should not be forgotten or ignored.

You remember the good of 92/93 and conveniently forget how awful most of the season was, it would be weird to ignore all the good Wenger's done. 5 FA Cups, 3 titles, two of those doubles, an unbeaten season, amazing football, keeping our heads above water financially during a massively complicated stadium move. It's a shame he didn't go on a high last season but in the fulness of time I think his legacy will be appreciated. It bloody well should be.

however I don't think his tenure post the trophies will be remembered positively. Moyes kept Everton in the top 6 or there abouts for a decade but he is hardly going to be considered a legend. also wenger's poor assessment of character since then with players like gallas, adebayor etc. don't do him any favours.

[fakeyank]

I still think Wenger will be remembered fondly in the next 10-20 years. Going through a whole season unbeaten is a feat which I dont think will be emulated anytime soon... though Chelsea always seem to scare me! Think about it.. 49 games in the PL and 0 defeats! I have a lot of dislike to his policies and footballing philosophies in the last few years but if you stand back and take a look at what he has done since 1996, I think he should be remembered fondly.

I do agree though that the longer he stays and puts out clueless teams out in the middle, the worse he is making it for himself. There wasnt a better time than May 2014 to have walked out! I dont know if it was the money or something else.. but whatever it was, it will be one of the biggest mistakes he has made (and he has made a lot in the last many seasons)

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Did I say I wanted to support Chelsea?

I am not questioning people's allegiance to Arsenal, what I am questioning is the lack of action. Why are frustrated people still waiting in line for an inferior product? I am not saying we fans stop loving Arsenal, I am asking why we are not taking action about the massive gap between what our potential and what we see on the pitch.

my point is that people don't change their footballing allegiance just because they don't like what's on the menu at their own club (you wouldn't and there's no reason to think anyone else would)

and there will be plenty of people prepared to pay out for tickets just for the privilege of supporting the club regardless of how they feel it should be doing.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I still think Wenger will be remembered fondly in the next 10-20 years. Going through a whole season unbeaten is a feat which I dont think will be emulated anytime soon... though Chelsea always seem to scare me! Think about it.. 49 games in the PL and 0 defeats! I have a lot of dislike to his policies and footballing philosophies in the last few years but if you stand back and take a look at what he has done since 1996, I think he should be remembered fondly.

I do agree though that the longer he stays and puts out clueless teams out in the middle, the worse he is making it for himself. There wasnt a better time than May 2014 to have walked out! I dont know if it was the money or something else.. but whatever it was, it will be one of the biggest mistakes he has made (and he has made a lot in the last many seasons)

Pretty much, i think what people forget as well is that he is a transformative manager....the reason we are frustrated with him is because in doing what he did between 1996 and 2005 he elevated the reputation of the club and the expectation of the fans.
Don't get me wrong Arsenal have always been a big club, but we weren't part of the European Elite....and the stability and reputation he had brought on the pitch has made us such a club in terms of financial might if not performance/results.
He has given us all he's got and is a spent force now, the board have retained him partly because they know that under him Arsenal have never finished outside the top four and partly because he in return has shown the club loyalty during a transistory phase when other clubs were interested in his services.
He has frustrated the hell out of me, and he doesn't deserve the money he is on....but what he has achieved with us has rightly earnt him sporting immortality

[Niall_Quinn]

Let's say, hypodermically, you did start supporting the chavs. What would you do on the first day? Maybe look at pictures of Maureen and go, yay! Or stick up a poster of Ramires? Or start singing chavvy songs? That'd be the first day. WTF would you do on the second day? And what about match days? Wouldn't it be a bit weird wanting the despicable cunts you support to lose? Wouldn't you get beaten up every time you went to a match? I don't think it would be much fun to support the chavs.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

What's a transistory phase?