One Arsene Wenger...

[Letters]

Really? I don't know why anyone wouldn't want them to be true.
I think I should probably step away from this now though.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Really? I don't know why anyone wouldn't want them to be true. .

I could give you a list but a) I'm still being paid to work (meaning they haven't caught onto me yet) and b) it would be taking the thread off at an alarming tangent.

[Letters]

My guess is the list would be a wildly inaccurate one, in terms of what Christians actually believe, but feel free to PM me in your spare time if you wish :tiphatL

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The point would be that a great deal of Christians don't believe the same thing, and your modern day Christian is more inclined to take passages from the Bible which they feel best suits them. Which for me is the equivalent of my mother regarding the Women's realm as her holy scripture because she's been known to cut out recipes she likes from the food section.

[mr_brighterside]

The point would be that a great deal of Christians don't believe the same thing, and your modern day Christian is more inclined to take passages from the Bible which they feel best suits them. Which for me is the equivalent of my mother regarding the Women's realm as her holy scripture because she's been known to cut out recipes she likes from the food section.

Its always been the way that there is the false church who misuse or ignore the bible and the true church who believe the Bible and put Jesus rather than the culture as it's head

[Niall_Quinn]

There's the Christian way of living and the Christian church, two different things. The Christian church is an easy way to avoid living a Christian life, it hires mortals to dole out perks (or the promises of perks) for the heavily discounted price of conformity. A Christian life would be tough in the modern age. For example, there's no way you can be a genuine Christian and vote or pay tax. You can't work for the government. You can't have a bank account. It's a long list. I can't imagine there are many Christians.

[Power n Glory]

What? Why can't you vote or pay taxes? Or have a bank account?

Why the heck is this being discussed?

[mr_brighterside]

There's the Christian way of living and the Christian church, two different things. The Christian church is an easy way to avoid living a Christian life, it hires mortals to dole out perks (or the promises of perks) for the heavily discounted price of conformity. A Christian life would be tough in the modern age. For example, there's no way you can be a genuine Christian and vote or pay tax. You can't work for the government. You can't have a bank account. It's a long list. I can't imagine there are many Christians.

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In the new testament (e.g. Romans) Christians are told to submit to governing authorities and Jesus himself said to pay tax. Voting is part of partaking in the governing structures of the day, as unpalatable as most parties are today.

Also the division between church and Christian isn't one the Bible allows, see Hebrews for example. There are religious organisations that call themselves churches but rely on their works rather than Christ's work for their eternal hope, these are not churches and eternity will show it to be so.