Match reaction - Man City

[GP]

Say what you like about Wenger but if you start disrespecting the Queen I'm banning the shit out of you


Gawd bless 'er.

I heard the queen cuts her sandwiches into rectangles.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Forget football in general, that's steering away from the point somewhat, for me what I'm interested in is Arsenal and I agree with that statement as well. We don't dislike football because of other teams we dislike it now because our club has sunk very low, if we had a team like we did 15 years ago you can bet your bottom dollar noone would be that bothered about football in general.

Ask Man City fans if they hate football.

Yes and No

There’s no doubt that the current state of AFC is the single biggest factor in my waining interest in football

But used to look forward more to the big games that didn’t concern us even if we didn’t have a stake in the result, now? Who gives a fuck!

Could transpire that Kroenke suffers a serious head injury and fires Wenger and invest in the club out of his own pocket. I’d be more enthusiastic for sure, but the love for the game still greatly diminished.

[Özim]

Better than Stockholm syndrome, which is what much of the fanbase seems to be suffering. The mere idea of Wenger not being here terrifies them.

Changing the manager is part and parcel of football and all competitive sport. Performance keeps you in your job. Non-performance gets you booted. Arsenal has changed manager many times. Wenger only arrived here after Rioch left prematurely. These things happen and must happen for a club to stay competitive, these things are normal. ONE manager in recent times has managed to go past just a few years and remain competitive at the same club. Ferguson. He's the EXCEPTION, not the rule. Even Maureen couldn't keep his job in chavland despite pulling down some of the best successes that club has ever experienced.

But we've reached the stage at this club where the notion of a change of manager is seen as dangerous, damaging, unrealistic, and it's all based on the fact the bloke has been here so long. I don't think it's even his legacy. The frightened bunnies aren't playing that tune anymore, instead they are clinging to the fear card. They have nothing else left so they pretend there's nobody out there who could possibly replace the bloke. For them, Wenger has become so familiar, and he's indoctrinated them so thoroughly in the art of mediocrity, they are happy to hang on to this nothingness rather than throw the club back into the real fight. It's as if we are on an endless time-out, watching the rest of football carry on around us while we sit in a bubble.

And our football is the same. Boring. Average. Unremarkable. This when we know the players could get back in the fight - we've seen them do it from time to time which makes it all the more infuriating.

I think the pro-Wenger lot might be an even bigger problem than Wenger himself. Alexis and Ozil said they'd wait on the outcome of Wenger's contract negotiations to make their own decisions. Well it's pretty clear how they view Wenger and their solution is to piss off. That seems to be the offer to fans who want to see a bit of ambition. Accept what you have or fuck off. Stop going. Stop watching. Give your tickets to "real" fans who get behind the manager and the club - Wenger has effectively said this himself, with all his criticism of the troublesome fans who bother him with reality and facts.

Well why should the fans fuck off? It should be the pro Wenger lot who want Wenger more than Arsenal who fuck off. Why doesn't Wenger take them all off to some island and make their little cult official?

Totally agree, it's very weird, the manager has actually become bigger than the club for some of these people, like you said clubs (normal ones) change manager when things aren't going well.

The guy has had more than a fair chance to put things right and he's failed miserably, choosing to continue to use his flawed methods, the whole Wenger phenomena is weird to be honest, this kind of thing has never been seen in football before, a manager of a top club that has little interest in winning big trophies, never learns from his mistakes and jusr point blank refuses to change anything, that together with the fans that follow him like Lemmings finding all the excuses under the sun for him. How many more years will it take for people to see him for what he is, he's had so many bites at the cherry, failed miserably in the exact same way time and time again and still some people think he's some kinda of genius hindered by everything under the sun.

[Letters]

I heard the queen cuts her sandwiches into rectangles.

Stupid bint.

[Özim]

Yes and No

There’s no doubt that the current state of AFC is the single biggest factor in my waining interest in football

But used to look forward more to the big games that didn’t concern us even if we didn’t have a stake in the result, now? Who gives a fuck!

There's obviously some truth in that, but do you think the fact we're nowhere these days affects your interest in those matches as well, if we were hovering around the top and those matches actually could make a different to us winning the title do you not think they would be more interesting to watch.

Right now I'm the same, not bothered about the big matches, they're insignificant though, when we use to be in the title hunt I use to like to watch them to hopefully get to see a result that was good for us, or to see how good are competitors were, it's now irrelevant.

[Letters]

Ask Man City fans if they hate football.

I'm sure all the Man City "fans" who didn't give a monkeys 10 years ago and have suddenly sprung out of nowhere are loving it.
Yes, I'm sure glory hunters only care about the state of the club.
Personally, I a fed up about that but that's only a bigger part of how fed up I am about football in general. And I was saying some of these things in the glory years too. Obviously when Arsenal are doing well it masks it somewhat, but the game is in a mess generally, it's not the sport I grew up with.

[Letters]

Totally agree, it's very weird, the manager has actually become bigger than the club for some of these people, like you said clubs (normal ones) change manager when things aren't going well.

Normal clubs have a board that cares about how things go on the pitch, not in the financial spreadsheets.
I don't like the way the billionaires have come in and bought success but they were at least aiming for trophies, not profit.
By the targets the board set for him, he is succeeding. The issue is their criteria for success is not the same as the fans.

[Niall_Quinn]

Meh better than Prince Andrew using royal privilege to avoid prosecution for arms dealing

And the other stuff.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

There's obviously some truth in that, but do you think the fact we're nowhere these days affects your interest in those matches as well, if we were hovering around the top and those matches actually could make a different to us winning the title do you not think they would be more interesting to watch.

Right now I'm the same, not bothered about the big matches, they're insignificant though, when we use to be in the title hunt I use to like to watch them to hopefully get to see a result that was good for us, or to see how good are competitors were, it's now irrelevant.

Not really because the same extends to foreign leagues

Used to love El Grande Classico now meh!

And don’t even get me started on Italian football, used to fucking love that league

Like I say I don’t absolve Wenger of blame for my lack of love for football, but it’s not going to be greatly rekindled when he goes.

Too many over hyped average players, the football is too slow and ponderous and it feels like their are fewer and fewer absolutely top sides

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And the other stuff.

How could I have forgotten?

Oh that’s right....I was paid