Arsenal vs Liverpool - Player ratings and Match Reaction

[Mac76]

They were both incidents which could have gone the other way. I must admit when I saw the penalty incident the first time I wasn't sure why it was given, but from the right angle it's pretty clearly a foul. So while I wouldn't have been surprised had it not given, I think it was the right decision. I kinda feel the same about the one which wasn't given. I hate all this shit about the ball just hitting people's hands or arms and a penalty being given. People use their arms to balance, defenders shouldn't have to have their arms behind their back for fear of conceding penalties. So while you definitely see ones like that given, I don't think they should be. It seemed pretty clear ball to hand and while those are increasingly given I really don't think they should be.

yes this is pretty much where i am with it, it should clearly be 'hand to ball' in an obvious way, if it's an accident then a pel is ridiculously harsh - Gabriel's simply moving his arms quite naturally to balance as you say

and the Jesus pel was definitely correct, it's a foul in the box - end of

[HCZ_Reborn]

yes this is pretty much where i am with it, it should clearly be 'hand to ball' in an obvious way, if it's an accident then a pel is ridiculously harsh - Gabriel's simply moving his arms quite naturally to balance as you say

and the Jesus pel was definitely correct, it's a foul in the box - end of

But we aren’t talking about what should, we are talking about what is. If Gabriel had remained static there wouldn’t have been a case, but he jumped to clear the ball with his head and he he was using his arms (admittedly to balance himself and gain height) so his own actions moved his arms to the point where they came in contact with the ball.

[Marc Overmars]

I think we were lucky to get away the Gabriel handball, on another day that’s given by VAR IMO. Also felt like the foul on Jesus was soft and he knew what he was doing by going down, I know I’d be gutted if it was the other way around and a penalty was given against us for that.

Shit happens, we’ve had some woeful decisions go against us in the past so it all comes around.

[mandela8]

I think we were lucky to get away the Gabriel handball, on another day that’s given by VAR IMO. Also felt like the foul on Jesus was soft and he knew what he was doing by going down, I know I’d be gutted if it was the other way around and a penalty was given against us for that.

Shit happens, we’ve had some woeful decisions go against us in the past so it all comes around.

Yep. I mean, obviously it wasn't a foul. There's no world we're aware of in which that contact makes a grown man, trained to have elite balance and mobility, instantly crumple to the ground. It was a clear dive and anyone suggesting otherwise is just one of these weird adults who simply lose objectivity when it comes to 'their' team. Pathetic stuff, really.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I think we were lucky to get away the Gabriel handball, on another day that’s given by VAR IMO. Also felt like the foul on Jesus was soft and he knew what he was doing by going down, I know I’d be gutted if it was the other way around and a penalty was given against us for that.

Shit happens, we’ve had some woeful decisions go against us in the past so it all comes around.

It was soft but you slide in on a player in the box get the player but none of the ball you risk giving away a penalty. I don’t think it was any softer than the penalty given against us against Tottenham.

And despite what the Tartan troll states a dive is when you go down under no contact

Honestly why do we have to tolerate his presence?, is it to meet a diversity quota. Not diversity for being Scottish. But diversity for being mentally retarded

[Mac76]

I think we were lucky to get away the Gabriel handball, on another day that’s given by VAR IMO. Also felt like the foul on Jesus was soft and he knew what he was doing by going down, I know I’d be gutted if it was the other way around and a penalty was given against us for that.

Shit happens, we’ve had some woeful decisions go against us in the past so it all comes around.

we were maybe a bit lucky with Gabriel but Letters' point is most 'handball' claims are BS and this is one of them

and if we got a decision like the Jesus one against us, i'd blame the defender for going in like that, not the striker

[mandela8]

and if we got a decision like the Jesus one against us, i'd blame the defender for going in like that, not the striker

No, you wouldn't.

[Mac76]

No, you wouldn't.

Ohhh yes i woooooouuuuuld ........

[Letters]

we were maybe a bit lucky with Gabriel but Letters' point is most 'handball' claims are BS and this is one of them

Correct, but HCZ is right that you see this sort of thing given quite a lot. So while I'd have been aggrieved had it gone against us, I've seen sillier ones given.
And Gabriel was trying to get his arm behind his back, he just didn't react quick enough.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I can’t link the video directly but this is superb commentary from Peter Drury https://twitter.com/missionelli/stat...gVyj46pgOyIKJQ

Think he would be better then Martin Tyler on sky