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    However I accept that these same variables in play at the beginning of last season should have led to us losing four or five of our first ten or twelve games in the league. We managed to stodge our way through that time and it’s entirely possible we will again. Not to win the league of course, that option as I say is entirely off the table

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    Your confidence in your ability to predict things given your past record continues to baffle me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Your confidence in your ability to predict things given your past record continues to baffle me.
    The point is I’m not predicting anything

    That’s like me reading a poll saying one candidate is 20 points ahead in the polls and saying it’s likely that candidate might win is a prediction. No I’m simply making an observation based on the available evidence


    And I’ve already caveated that by saying that things have a habit of not following these expectations


    But I don’t think anyone looking at why I’ve reasoned as to why we are in massive peril can say oh that’s purely speculative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    But I don’t think anyone looking at why I’ve reasoned as to why we are in massive peril can say oh that’s purely speculative.
    It definitely isn't speculative, although I think you're somewhat overstating the peril.
    I don't believe Top 4 is under any serious threat, for example. And while I feel the title is beyond us, I'm clinging on to hope in a way which lots of people aren't. I'm an eternal optimist.

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    I agree with HCZ here. We can wish all we want but the brutal reality is that even if Liverpool slip up, we are 99% certain not to achieve the consistency required to take advantage of this, given the state of our squad. It's a pretty straightforward analysis, really.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    I agree with HCZ here.
    I'm not particularly disagreeing with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It definitely isn't speculative, although I think you're somewhat overstating the peril.
    I don't believe Top 4 is under any serious threat, for example. And while I feel the title is beyond us, I'm clinging on to hope in a way which lots of people aren't. I'm an eternal optimist.
    Ok, so I’ll bite. What are in your mind the protective factors (sorry that’s very counselling language ) that inform your belief that top four is not imperilled?

    Or in layman’s terms. Why do you think I’m wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    What are in your mind the protective factors that inform your belief that top four is not imperilled?
    The 9 points, mostly. And a belief that while I think the title is almost certainly beyond us we have a decent run in and I believe we'll muddle through well enough to quite easily stay in the Top 4. Prove me wrong, boys, prove me wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    The 9 points, mostly. And a belief that while I think the title is almost certainly beyond us we have a decent run in and I believe we'll muddle through well enough to quite easily stay in the Top 4. Prove me wrong, boys, prove me wrong!
    Also the strength of the opposition, none of whom have shown that they have the ability to go on a run that sees us slip below 4th - notwithstanding our injury crisis. We may have to pivot to being a defensive first team that tries to nick a winning goal from set pieces or from MF, but we are good enough IMO to sustain a top 4 place.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Yeah, good point about the opposition. There's no-one below us who particularly worries me.

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