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Thread: Match Reaction v Swansea at home (15/16)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    There are a few ministers of propaganda even now on Twitter blaming the fans for our poor form.
    At least the club is spending some money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    They're basing all their future piss takes on TV revenue. That's what props up all their plans. Chop that away and you make an impact. They monitor these things very carefully, they would notice and so would the media. The stadium thing is never going to happen. Too many fashion fans now, many of the real fans who might show some solidarity are stuck at home because they can't scrape up the various mortgages required to buy a ticket. Cancelling a subscription is a single phone call or a mouse click. Not much effort there. And the pirate streams are better quality anyway so the only loss is for the TV companies (who ruined the game) and the ghouls who have descended on the clubs. I think it could be and should be done. Get that Piers Morgan cunt to shout his mouth off for something useful for a change. Mind you - I wonder what the pundits and fellow travellers would really think about it. Might it threaten the scraps that fall into their mouths from the table? Would be interesting to find out.
    The reaction last night at the stadium suggest folks are on the edge. It's also something that can't be glossed over. Boos ringing out load with empty seats is a massive statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post


    Chuck in the corruption at the top levels, the piss-poor quality of the players and the football these days, the way Sky and the Media are turning everything into a soap opera, the irritating pundits... at some point you've really got to stop and have a serious look at what we're actually getting out of it as fans?

    Someone jokingly described it as a drug the other day, but I'm wondering if that isn't actually too far from the truth? It's certainly starting to feel more like an addiction than something enjoyable. I'd be interested to know many people of here keep going back for more because they genuinely still love it, and how many are doing it because they literally can't walk away, and don't know what they'd do with themselves if they did?
    All of it is part and parcel of any system that has money as the core focus. Who could have known that letting con-artists, crooks and human rights abusers into the game would have had a detrimental effect? Shocking and unpredictable turn of events.

    I don't relate to any of those players now, they are from a different planet as far as I'm concerned. I'm decrepit enough to remember players wandering into the pub and having a chat (poor old Gus Caesar, he used to get some stick). Now they run you down with their Range Rover Cunt Edition Special, although they are never short a tweet expressing their undying love for whatever badge they happen to be wearing at the time. It's unpleasant to know you are being taken for a cunt but going along with it anyway. In any other walk of life I'd stay a million miles away from these twats. It's the past I'm hooked to, hoping the present somehow goes back to that. Impossible, this is what football is now and it'll only get worse.

    Even if we did win the title, what does it actually mean these days? When you could afford to get into the ground and actually live the season with all its ups and downs that eventually culminated in communal/ tribal achievement then that was something. But this degraded football hidden behind spinning logos and pay walls and the chattering of utter morons like Robbie Savage, you endure it in the hope some actual football breaks out. A moment that can get you out of your seat. It's so bloody rare now. Winning the title would be like, yeah, that was good TV, well done the lads, whoever you are. It lasts a day, maybe a week if you had a good night out after. Then back to the transfer circus with "loyal" players demanding your shirt to carry on wearing the badge. Or hoping some obscene amount of cash can be thrown at some mercenary who always loved the club, if the cash is right.

    Sounds like addiction to me. That's what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Shame some fans feel like that, but I can understand to a degree. I used to be a season ticket holder for years at Highbury but haven't since we moved. Will continue to watch every game because I've sat through worse and have learnt not to let it burn me up inside if things go tits up. And bottom line is, this is my club and it would take something beyond catastrophic for me to stop following them closely. I still love football but I've put it into manageable perspective as I've got older, so I can still escape into it, talk about it with passion but cut off when I need to.
    What you say about putting into manageable perspective is kind of the problem for me - I did exactly that, and I've found myself escaping into it less and less, and cutting off from it more and more.

    Honestly mate, once you take even the slightest step away, you very quickly get a taste for having your evenings and weekends back, and it isn't long before you start thinking about all the better things you could be doing with your time. It doesn't mean you stop supporting your club, but you do slowly to come to the realisation that being an armchair fan isn't actually that bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    Couldn't care less about the cup this year anyway to be honest. This season was all about the league.
    Yeah even if we win the cup I honestly wouldn't give a fuck. Some may spin it as progress but everyone (including the team judging from their comments last year) knew that this year was the year we went for the league. And with City, United and Chelsea fucking up it was there for the taking as long as we had a semi competent team that knew what they were doing ................................... ARGH it gets me so pissed off thinking about how we've blown this glorious chance. IT WAS FUCKING THERE!

    The worst thing is that with everyone else improving we may have to go another decade at least without winning a title and also have to suffer the ignominy of seeing Spurs being more recent champions than us and suffer their rightful taunts. Fuck my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    The reaction last night at the stadium suggest folks are on the edge. It's also something that can't be glossed over. Boos ringing out load with empty seats is a massive statement.
    I think there's a Hollywood aspect to the outrage too. Crowds go crazy in one direction just as easily as the other, but it's temporary. All that's required for a reversal is a couple of wins. Somehow stumble on to this title and suddenly we are back to Arsene Knows Best. But the problems go a lot deeper and are longer term. When the title, or a cup or even a win starts meaning the same thing again to the club as it does for the fans then great, but for now these things are used to keep people on-board while the next stage of the piss take is developed. By all means boo and put some pressure on if you can afford to get into the place, but the real effect will come when the fans start hitting in areas that actually mean something to the club. Something that they have to address in order to proceed with their plans. Take away their earnings potential, or reduce it, by the simplest possible means and they'll hear that a lot louder than the boos. We already know what they make of the booing. The arrogant pricks are essentially calling the fans disloyal, "emotional".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    I think there's a Hollywood aspect to the outrage too. Crowds go crazy in one direction just as easily as the other, but it's temporary. All that's required for a reversal is a couple of wins. Somehow stumble on to this title and suddenly we are back to Arsene Knows Best.
    To be honest, even I have got to the point where the title isn't enough. With this squad we should be clear at the top, not desperately scrabbling around for a win and hoping teams like Spurs and Leicester drop points.

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    We won't win the title so we don't have to
    Worry about whether it will be enough.

    I just don't see any scenario in which Wenger would be sacked, and don't see any scenario in which he will go before the end of his contract.
    That said I don't think he will get offered a new one and there will be an agreement between him and the board that Wenger has decided to call it quits.

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    I think he'll be offered a new contract. He'll take it, too.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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