Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
I want him gone because he can't in my view win major trophies, if the unlikely happened and we won it. Literally couldn't give a fuck if he stayed or not, my wanting him gone is predicated on my belief that this almost certainly won't happen.

Winning trophies to me is far, far more important than who the manager is. I'm a pragmatist, I recognise that I have no control over the managers future so it's illogical for me not to want the best under the current set up.

Would I find it unbearable Wenger being given a new contract if he did the impossible? No not really, I don't think it would be especially advisable but I don't think I could want a manager out enough to purposefully want us to lose out on the title.

I think it's an emotional reaction from most who are understandably gutted by the debacle of the last seven games, the difference between them and yourself is that I believe you wanted this to happen even when we were in a more favourable position because as I say your attitude is not conducive to what I would consider someone who supports this club.

If I'm honest i think you'd be better off with a club like Chelsea, I think a club like that probably has fans like you.
Like I said you're a shortermist, some might argue a plastic (that's what they generally call fans that only care about winning and nothing else, that's not what I call them).

As far as control over whether the manager stays, that's partly true because we've seen that our fan base won't stop fillinf the stadium, with that in mind why would they bother changing, their pockets are being lined by the fans, why would they care what they think, they probably have a good laugh about it over Champagne and Caviar tbh and why not.

A lot of people would find it unbearable to see the manager sign a new contract simply because of the way the guy handles himself, the way he won't sign players, is tactically naive, is patronising to the fans, is blinkered in his approach and is very much one of the reasons this club has stagnated. It was pretty clear to most that this collapse was just a matter of time, it's happened almost every season for the past 10 years and to be honest you'd have to be pretty blinkered to think it wouldn't again based on our record, what's happened is no surprise, neither is the way fans like you get brainwashed into thinking it will be different this time, you see the same thing happen time and time again and yet you still believe.

Gutted from the last 10 games.....really? This has been happening for 10 years, have you been daydreaming all that time?

Thanks for your interest in my affairs.....but your view is immaterial to me.