I think to a great extent there was a big element of missing Vieira, even now we miss that powerhouse box to box midfielder.

I think it's also only fair to measure the discontentment along the lines of the length of time we've gone without a major trophy. Over a decade without the premier league is not good enough, but for instance if Wenger had bungled his way to a title in the last few years people's attitudes wouldn't be as stark as they are now.

Whatever we complain about poor performances, failure to strengthen, rotten records against certain oponents, making the same mistakes and raise in season ticket costs....it boils down to a failure to both win the league or make a significant impact in the champions league. These are causal factors in why we have failed to win big trophies, but it's the failure to win big trophies that are the bottom line.

And Leicester city winning the title which seems the likeliest outcome adds insult to injury.

GW in 2007 or 2008 would have been an optimistic atmosphere because relatively speaking we hadn't gone for an exceptionally long period without a league title.