Alexandre Lacazette - OFFICIAL BID turned down

[Maestro]

Saw his name at start of thread and thought 'interesting'......opened the thread to see the full title and thought 'bloody hell' or something to that effect

Same here. I blame Wenger tbh, look what he's done to this place.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Same here. I blame Wenger tbh, look what he's done to this place.

so we are now saying that people can't take responsibility for their own actions?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Lacazette wants to leave according to the press.

Not surprised. The PL is where it's at (financially and prestige) and this would represent a major move for Lacazette, especially to move to a club like Arsenal with it's historic French connections.

I think like Rodger's hinting that £50 million would have been enough for them to sell Suarez three years back, I think the press release is intended to be a message that they're willing to sell for a few million more.

They turned down a higher bid from West Ham a month ago or so. Lyon didn't come out then with a press release. I doubt he's going anywhere unless a 60/70m comes in.

Yeah that's West Ham though. As bad as Zim thinks our stock is right now, we're still a far more attractive proposition to come to than fucking West Ham. Not to defend their constant penny pinching, but I'm guessing Gazidis/Wenger thought that Lacazette would kick up enough of a fuss himself to force through the transfer at a lower fee.

Still wouldn't be surprised if we ended up getting him for either the same or lower than what West Ham bid earlier this summer tbh.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Seems that Ben Yedder interest could be a move to make Lyon think we do have other targets

Either way, what's clear is that we don't want to stump the money up. Nothing changes

Looking at some Youtube s of him, Yedder does seem to have an Aguero/Suarez type bulldog fighter type quality about him ................ but on the other hand he played for a team that nearly got relegated last year.

[Kano]

Not surprised. The PL is where it's at (financially and prestige) and this would represent a major move for Lacazette, especially to move to a club like Arsenal with it's historic French connections.

I think like Rodger's hinting that £50 million would have been enough for them to sell Suarez three years back, I think the press release is intended to be a message that they're willing to sell for a few million more.




Yeah that's West Ham though. As bad as Zim thinks our stock is right now, we're still a far more attractive proposition to come to than fucking West Ham. Not to defend their constant penny pinching, but I'm guessing Gazidis/Wenger thought that Lacazette would kick up enough of a fuss himself to force through the transfer at a lower fee.

Still wouldn't be surprised if we ended up getting him for either the same or lower than what West Ham bid earlier this summer tbh.

The press release to me says something different to a club that looking willing to sell, especially when they are responding to a higher bid just being reported in the press. If a club looks like they want to sell then they'd respond or give signs to the buyer to that effect. This approach seems to suggest the complete opposite of that. They didn't even respond to the first bid. The manager saying he's staying is one thing but issuing a firm press release after one bid is something completely different. I think they are deadly serious about keeping him. Replacing a striker at the moment is a nightmare for any club and they mentioned how financially strong they are at the moment in that press release. His goals have helped them finish second for the past two seasons and get back into CL football so I think it would take an even more ridiculous bid for them to consider it.

[selassie]

The press release to me says something different to a club that looking willing to sell, especially when they are responding to a higher bid just being reported in the press. If a club looks like they want to sell then they'd respond or give signs to the buyer to that effect. This approach seems to suggest the complete opposite of that. They didn't even respond to the first bid. The manager saying he's staying is one thing but issuing a firm press release after one bid is something completely different. I think they are deadly serious about keeping him. Replacing a striker at the moment is a nightmare for any club and they mentioned how financially strong they are at the moment in that press release. His goals have helped them finish second for the past two seasons and get back into CL football so I think it would take an even more ridiculous bid for them to consider it.

I agree, however I do think we could get him if we are serious & proactive in our pursuit of him. The thing is I have no faith in us to follow this through proactively. It feels like we have offered at a price we feel fits into our valuation and will not move until he kicks up a fuss. If reports are to be believed he is keen and has asked for a transfer but we need to be pushing this if we are serious about him.

Aulas (Lyon President) is a tough negotiator, he has a track record of absolutely milking teams for his stars so he's not going to roll over and let us dictate the terms on this deal.

It's going to be interesting to see how this one unfolds, will we pursue him or will we walk away?

[Kano]

I agree, however I do think we could get him if we are serious & proactive in our pursuit of him. The thing is I have no faith in us to follow this through proactively. It feels like we have offered at a price we feel fits into our valuation and will not move until he kicks up a fuss. If reports are to be believed he is keen and has asked for a transfer but we need to be pushing this if we are serious about him.

Aulas (Lyon President) is a tough negotiator, he has a track record of absolutely milking teams for his stars so he's not going to roll over and let us dictate the terms on this deal.

It's going to be interesting to see how this one unfolds, will we pursue him or will we walk away?

If we pursue him, will us fans know about that? Will Lyon issue a press release every time? Will Lyon respond to a second bid? What is their valuation of the player? If they didn't respond to the first bid, then how are Arsenal to know they might be willing to sell or what to go in with next? If you are negotiating you don't just jump from £29m to £45m and more with no communication - the seller will have you over the barrel every which way.

[Power n Glory]

Not surprised. The PL is where it's at (financially and prestige) and this would represent a major move for Lacazette, especially to move to a club like Arsenal with it's historic French connections.

I think like Rodger's hinting that £50 million would have been enough for them to sell Suarez three years back, I think the press release is intended to be a message that they're willing to sell for a few million more.




Yeah that's West Ham though. As bad as Zim thinks our stock is right now, we're still a far more attractive proposition to come to than fucking West Ham. Not to defend their constant penny pinching, but I'm guessing Gazidis/Wenger thought that Lacazette would kick up enough of a fuss himself to force through the transfer at a lower fee.

Still wouldn't be surprised if we ended up getting him for either the same or lower than what West Ham bid earlier this summer tbh.

I'm hearing Lyon want £40m for him. Well, that's what's being reported. Even if a bid were to be accepted, we'd probably mess things up when negotiating player wages.

[selassie]

If we pursue him, will us fans know about that? Will Lyon issue a press release every time? Will Lyon respond to a second bid? What is their valuation of the player? If they didn't respond to the first bid, then how are Arsenal to know they might be willing to sell or what to go in with next? If you are negotiating you don't just jump from £29m to £45m and more with no communication - the seller will have you over the barrel every which way.

I have no doubt they will respond if we increase our offer, they responded to West Ham's offers so I see no reason why they wouldn't follow suite with us. I personally think their stance is that they do not want to sell but would sell at a price they deem suitable to compensate themselves. Lacazette has a part to play in this too and if he wants to join us then he's going to need to go public about it.

I never suggested we increase our offer to what is their supposed valuation but we need to get serious if we are serious about the player and the player is serious about us. The 2nd offer should be somewhere near their valuation if they have one, I suppose what I'm trying to say here is that we shouldn't be sitting their waiting for Lyon to bend over backwards for us.

Edited to add: Rumours going around that offer was earlier in the summer for Lacazette so it seems it was a opportunist punt

[dostoy]

I would not be surprised if this is all untrue.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ndre-lacazette

I told you.