Match Reaction v Leicester Away PL

[Globalgunner]

Some say? you mean you say.

I am under no illusion that there is no tangible hierarchy at the club and that's my point, but fact remains that Wenger is an employee he serves at someone's pleasure be it the board or de facto the majority shareholder. And ultimately if he is not performing it's incumbent on those in charge to directly intervene and either dispense with his services or at least insist upon him that his current job performance is not acceptable.
Whether that takes direct intervention in terms of transfers P n G is irrelevant, the fact remains either they are happy with how he's doing his job or don't care enough to do anything about it ergo they are 100% responsible.

The situation at Arsenal is pretty clear, to me at least. The board has no authority, they exist only to make pretend at being in charge, It is much the same at Chelsea. The buck stops with the owner. As a board member of a limited liability company you only really have a say in the running of that company if you have shares, No shares means no say. The difference at Chelsea is that the owner, Abramovic really really wants his club to win things and spends his and the clubs money to further that aim. Also, no manager at Chelsea has anything like the authority like Wenger has acrrued over these years.
A similar analogy would be if your brother owned a company and made you the CEO, however he has told all senior management to call him if they have issues with you. You will find yourself blindsided and ignored repeatedly.
This is what we have to contend with at Arsenal. The worst you can accuse the muppets currently on the board of being is serial neglect, taking money for doing next to noithing.
Wenger has sized up the situation quite succinctly. He only has to keep in the good graces of Kroenke and he literally has a job for life. Truth is, every time you try to give Wenger the benefit of the dioubt, he comes out in a short while to confirm by himself everything you suspected against him.
The current board are hostages to greed, The old board sold out big time PHW`s father and grandfather were both former chairmen. Did he have no sons or was the money simply too much to refuse.

[mastermind84]

RVP started playing as a lone striker quite late in his career. After Ade left.

I meant 21-22 as a central forward.

26 at lone striker.

Doesn't change that Van Persie was a much more intelligent player than Sanchez. Sanchez's brain is his problem imo.

[Globalgunner]

I meant 21-22 as a central forward.

26 at lone striker.

Doesn't change that Van Persie was a much more intelligent player than Sanchez. Sanchez's brain is his problem imo.

Being in the same team as Walcott will reduce your IQ without a doubt.

[mastermind84]

Being in the same team as Walcott will reduce your IQ without a doubt.

It's Alexis on his own. He is an instinctual street footballer who doesn't process situations fast enough. Great talent but he is not coachable.



Pass distribution chart while Xhaka was on the pitch. We were a lot more even in ball distribution than last week.



https://twitter.com/11tegen11/status/767295491851821056

This is from last week


https://twitter.com/11tegen11/status/765508404043456512

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The situation at Arsenal is pretty clear, to me at least. The board has no authority, they exist only to make pretend at being in charge, It is much the same at Chelsea. The buck stops with the owner. As a board member of a limited liability company you only really have a say in the running of that company if you have shares, No shares means no say. The difference at Chelsea is that the owner, Abramovic really really wants his club to win things and spends his and the clubs money to further that aim. Also, no manager at Chelsea has anything like the authority like Wenger has acrrued over these years.
A similar analogy would be if your brother owned a company and made you the CEO, however he has told all senior management to call him if they have issues with you. You will find yourself blindsided and ignored repeatedly.
This is what we have to contend with at Arsenal. The worst you can accuse the muppets currently on the board of being is serial neglect, taking money for doing next to noithing.
Wenger has sized up the situation quite succinctly. He only has to keep in the good graces of Kroenke and he literally has a job for life. Truth is, every time you try to give Wenger the benefit of the dioubt, he comes out in a short while to confirm by himself everything you suspected against him.
The current board are hostages to greed, The old board sold out big time PHW`s father and grandfather were both former chairmen. Did he have no sons or was the money simply too much to refuse.

So when Wenger is still here at the start of next season, whose fault will it be?.....the argument over who is at charge at Arsenal is irrelevant, the fact is someone is and that someone is responsible for Wenger not doing his job. For what it's worth i agree it is the Majority share holder that calls the shots, Wenger won't have received a contract extension in 2014 had it not been countenanced by Enos and he will receive another contract extension regardless of where we finish because Enos is happy with the job he's doing. Enos is the man keeping Wenger in a job, ergo it's his fault

[Power n Glory]

I meant 21-22 as a central forward.

26 at lone striker.

Doesn't change that Van Persie was a much more intelligent player than Sanchez. Sanchez's brain is his problem imo.

A player holding on to the ball too long or trying to do more doesn't constitute a lack of intelligence. That could just be a player lacking patience and faith in his teammates to do something meaningful with the ball. I'd have to see more consistent flaws in his game to draw that sort of conclusion. When he arrives in the box at the right moment to score or plays a well timed pass, nobody questions his intelligence. I can't draw any firm conclusions about Sanchez up front until he's given a run of games. RVP was a selfish player at times and didn't hit the ground running when he first started there.

[Power n Glory]

It's Alexis on his own. He is an instinctual street footballer who doesn't process situations fast enough. Great talent but he is not coachable.

You say that because he's South American. It's stereotypical and I hardly ever hear people question the intelligence of players like Hazard or Robben.

[mastermind84]

You say that because he's South American. It's stereotypical and I hardly ever hear people question the intelligence of players like Hazard or Robben.

Hazard and Robben don't play like Alexis. Nothing to do with where he is from. Notice I don't say that about Neymar. I don't say that about Suarez. I don't say it about Agüero. I don't say that about many South Americans. Only Alex's because that's how he plays. He plays on instinct and is often unsure of what the next move is. He also don't play within a structure unless he the main man. His best form at Arsenal was when he was the only healthy first team attacked. He would still be at Barcelona if he was coachable and didn't play on instinct. Don't insinuate I'm being prejudiced on my views of south american attackers. I'm only talking about what I see of Alexis. He don't make runs behind the defense. He drops too deep to collect when he doesn't need too. He runs a lot, but it's not organized and he runs to the ball too much and tries to beat several guys when al he needs to do is beat one and make a pass.

Also, Wenger called him a street footballer several times.

[Niall_Quinn]

Those charts show clearly why Wenger chased Xhaka and why he was prepared to open "his" wallet, regardless of the fears of the 600 employees. The only problem with this nice new arrangement is it's as ineffective as all the others. Controlling possession does not win games, every counter-attacking team on the planet knows that. Sticking the ball in the net wins games and you can't do that if you have a system that lacks penetrative movement and pace. Well you can, if you have very, very good players all over the pitch who are markedly superior to the opponent. And if you have an opponent that is interested in playing rather than preventing football. And if you have a referee that is prepared to uphold the laws of the game. Basically you need conditions that are the reverse of what's available in the PL. Wenger has built a team that is perfectly unsuited to the league we are playing in. When you watch us play (if you can bear it) we are static for 90% of the time. The passes get pinged around between static players and this is so easy to defend against. We constantly probe, but at a low tempo. So opportunities to penetrate are few and far between. Because we play such a complex and slow paced game we need absolute precision when the rare opportunities arrive .But the vast majority of the time we lack that precision, and so we lose the ball. It really is pathetic to watch. Embarrassing.

[Niall_Quinn]

And as for Alexis, underneath he must be furious at the shit show he has found himself embroiled in. I agree, he's an instinctive player. But I absolutely disagree that this suggests he's not an intelligent player. Rapid bursts of energy, decisive movement, pace, opportunism, these are his hallmarks. If he set out to pick a team that is most incompatible with what he brings then he couldn't have done better than Arsenal. We have wasted this player. Much like we have wasted Ozil. Prime ingredients thrown into a shit stew in the hope they can magically transform the recipe. Wenger is beyond clueless. And yes, I know he's has 20 years dealing with every sort of footballing matter imaginable. I don't question his experience, I question how he uses that experience. It's shocking how inept he is.