Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
This don't make sense at all. So the board give Wenger too much power and its not their fault he is like this. How the hell can it ba a tall order to get poer back when they can easily sack him, unless he has some clause in his contract that will make it up to them.

Not sure why your trying to make the board the good guys when they dont give a shit about the fans either and our chairman told us all to shut up and be happy or whatever he said.

I find it weird that you say and employer is powerless to stop their employee, when they easily can.
If I said it was 100% Wenger's fault, then I could see where you coming from, but I haven't said. It's not 100% Wenger's fault.

You've come back with a very simplistic argument and I'm not here trying to paint a picture of the Board being 'good guys'. You're wide off the mark and missed a lot of points I've made. But what really annoys me is the way you've comeback with the typical 'board doesn't give a shit about the fans' response while ignoring Wenger's comments and behaviour in the process. I mentioned them already but I might as well list them again and add a couple more points, but you're not getting it. If the Board are out to fleece the fans, Wenger is an accomplice.

Who championed the idea of the stadium brining in more transfer fund resources and us being able to compete with the likes of Real Madrid and Man U on the transfer market? I don't recall PHW or many Board members coming out to the press to stir up our hopes. I remember Wenger promoting that idea. He never said anything about the wage structure still being intact and our wage bill ballooning so just to accommodate and oversized average squad. He specifically spoke about competing on the transfer market and I don't want to here excuses about Chelsea or City because we're spending around the same amount on wages and transfer fees as we did at Highbury but the squad size and the average amount we're paying out has gone up.

The ticket price hike. Why has Wenger come out and said the increase would help us compete with the bigger clubs? Why dangle that carrot and suggest to the fans that it would help us on the pitch? We know that's BS but he put it out there anyway. If you think the Board don't care about the fans are taken us for a ride, then you've got to look at this comment with a raised eyebrow. He's helping them pull off the con with these type of comments.

Insults...didn't Wenger say 'a sign of intelligence is patients'? That was an insult directed at fans and you've ignored it. It comes right off the back of PHW calling fans idiots as well, just when tensions between the Board and fans were high. You ignored that point and a lot of people forget that comment. Wenger has no problem lying to fans, just like during the Nasri and Cesc saga when he said he expected no one to leave the club and the next day we here that Cesc is off. He did it with a smirk on his face as well, totally taking the piss and ignoring how much of a sensitive issue this was with the fans. He's always coy with his transfer dealings and fans brush it off as if he's playing his cards close to his chest and smokescreens, when in fact, he's just staying coy so when he doesn't sign anyone he can say we weren't able to find any 'super quality' players. Speaking of 'super quality' he's the one that sets the standard and gets our hopes up when talking of signing a striker or English centre back, then double backs on his words and gets all tetchy when people question him about it.

I could go on. See the bigger picture here. PHW and co hardly speak to the fans and Wenger has done a lot of talking . As for wrestling power back....Gazidis and Stan are part of a new regime. They respect Wenger but I guess they have a few ideas of their own like the Asia tour. This is a long term plan and they can't just sack him without thinking of the consequences. It's not that simple. The club now has Wenger's DNA all over it. Bringing in someone new means they'd have to be prepared to rip up the rule book and there would need to be a real strategy on how we'd cope without Wenger. What we're seeing here has taken years of planning. Board members can't make hasty decisions and sacking Wenger is the last resort for them. As for Gazidis, since he;s been here he's made sure he's put himself out there to the fans to answer questions. I'll give him credit for that. Nobody else does that at Arsenal.