Match Reaction v Man Utd

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Noticed it as well. It was close to being a Gallas moment. I've never seen a player angry about another player coming off the field.

Gerrard did when Torres was taken off for Liverpool away to Birmingham, two years ago. That ended up being Rafa's last season.

[Coney]

Of coruse it matters if it dents his confidence. Yes the fans booed the sub, but in away were booing him or not wanting him to come on indirectly. We wll never know what effect cheering would have had but by that logic you may as well say had AOC been left on would that have stopped Valencia from making a run.

We are talking about the same Arshavin who made the final brilliant pass to Welbeck in the box?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No. Wrong.

If it had been for the ineffective walcott, then people wouldn't have minded.

It was that he was taking of AOC who was doing Utd damage....and even the most idiotic of fans could see he was taking the wrong person off.

I agree my point was Png sayin that cheering would have still made AV run in the box, well if Theo came off for AA the same thing could have happend because andre would have done it anyway.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We are talking about the same Arshavin who made the final brilliant pass to Welbeck in the box?

Yep, he could have done it even if we he went for theo.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yep, he could have done it even if we he went for theo.

Of course but the atmosphere wouldn't have been sucked out by one decision if that was the case.

[Coney]

Of course but the atmosphere wouldn't have been sucked out by one decision if that was the case.

Right. There is more to a substitution than just the clinical fact of technical reasons (even when they are right). The whole feel of the team and the stadium is important in the overall performance.

[Master Splinter]

Vermaelen was culpable for both goals too.

When your supposedly best players are missing sitters and showing defensive naivety, there's not much hope. And Song's been back on the strong stuff again recently, it seems.

[LDG]

I agree my point was Png sayin that cheering would have still made AV run in the box, well if Theo came off for AA the same thing could have happend because andre would have done it anyway.

Bloody hell.

The substitution killed the momentum we had built up.

That we could have conceded a silly goal is niether here, nor there in this equation. We do it every week anyway.

We had them under pressure, and until he made that substitution, we looked the more likely to go on and win it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Vermaelen was culpable for both goals too.

When your supposedly best players are missing sitters and showing defensive naivety, there's not much hope. And Song's been back on the strong stuff again recently, it seems.

RVP has to take some blame missing easy sitters as well, TV 5 deffo had a bad game, the midfield was diabolical tbh. Wenger can say utd were more mature then us but really it was a boring unmotivated performance.

maybe it was me but i never enjoyed this game like i have done in the past, it jsut seemed like a top team vs a midtable one.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Bloody hell.

The substitution killed the momentum we had built up.

That we could have conceded a silly goal is niether here, nor there in this equation. We do it every week anyway.

We had them under pressure, and until he made that substitution, we looked the more likely to go on and win it.

My arguement was not about the sub at all. I never said it never killed the momentum.