Wilshere out for the season.

[Letters]

This playing players until they die comes about partly because Wenger only seems to trust a small proportion of his players to play. Once Wilshere proved what could be achieved from his position, Denilson, although fit, never got a look in. We were grateful for that at the time, not so much now.

We are well into this process with Ramsey this season.

I don't understand this sort of post. I've seen other people say it too. But elsewhere people have criticised Wenger for rotating
Spurs haven't used that many players this season as they've been pretty lucky with injuries.
Players sometimes need a rest but overall a more consistent side is better, non?

[LDG]

Well. Plus, it was Jack who didn't tell anyone about the pain he had in his ankle, and wanted to keep playing.

They only knew there was a problem once it went "ping" in the Emirates Cup.

Players have a duty to let the medical team know if there's a problem....hopefully a mistake, wilshere has admitted, he won't make again.

[Grebbo]

This was a waste of money then:

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...raining-ground

Watching the video the equipment looks great but the staff look and sound like a right bunch of bell ends. We need to ship over some German docs - they're famous for being pioneers in the medical field.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well. Plus, it was Jack who didn't tell anyone about the pain he had in his ankle, and wanted to keep playing.

They only knew there was a problem once it went "ping" in the Emirates Cup.

Players have a duty to let the medical team know if there's a problem....hopefully a mistake, wilshere has admitted, he won't make again.

They do but on this occasion Arsenal knew he is coming back from injury, if they were a little bit more circumspect then it possibly wouldn't need Wilshere to tell the truth or not.

[Letters]

They do but on this occasion Arsenal knew he is coming back from injury, if they were a little bit more circumspect then it possibly wouldn't need Wilshere to tell the truth or not.

They surely have to rely on the players to give them some feedback though. Wilshere was obviously keen to get out there again, maybe he just over-stretched himself. The fact that Ramsey and Eduardo are playing football at all after their horrible injuries is credit to our medical team. In days of yore they'd never have played again

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They surely have to rely on the players to give them some feedback though. Wilshere was obviously keen to get out there again, maybe he just over-stretched himself. The fact that Ramsey and Eduardo are playing football at all after their horrible injuries is credit to our medical team. In days of yore they'd never have played again

Scans and more scans would surely show if his foot was in the danger zone or not. Perhaps they just weren't anticipating something like that happening. What you mention about Eduardo and Ramsey is slightly different - horrible injuries though they were (and in Eduardo's case much worse) broken bones take longer to heal (obviously) but eventually bones fuse back together stronger. In any case I don't really want to get bogged down in a compare and contrast with those players because that doesn't really preclude from the possibility of being a mismanagement in Wilshere's case.

Having said that, they are having more tests for him. Granted it could be after the fact but then, it might not be as bad as expected.

[Letters]

In any case I don't really want to get bogged down in a compare and contrast with those players because that doesn't really preclude from the possibility of being a mismanagement in Wilshere's case.

Well no, it doesn't. Just making the point that there are a couple of examples where the medical team did a pretty good job which does preclude them being a load of incompetent idiots. None of us know what's gone on with Wilshere of course or whether different medical staff would have done a better job.

There clearly is an issue with our injury record. How much of that is down to the medical staff and how much down to over-playing or the type of player Wenger tends to go for (smaller, more technical players who are perhaps more likely to get clobbered) and how much down to just plain back luck we can't really know.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well no, it doesn't. Just making the point that there are a couple of examples where the medical team did a pretty good job which does preclude them being a load of incompetent idiots. None of us know what's gone on with Wilshere of course or whether different medical staff would have done a better job.

There clearly is an issue with our injury record. How much of that is down to the medical staff and how much down to over-playing or the type of player Wenger tends to go for (smaller, more technical players who are perhaps more likely to get clobbered) and how much down to just plain back luck we can't really know.

Unfortunately those examples are 2008 and 2010 respectively and with (barring permanent disability) the worst injuries a footballer can get. What am I saying is, they've done well when it comes to those heightened injuries which though horrible are rare (after they've had surgery elsewhere of course) but the ones where it might be more 'common' wear and tear, it's an area we're quite possibly lacking in.

None of us know for sure of course but then that's the case for nearly everything that happens in football, politics whatever. I'm making the 'judgement' on what I can see; I could be wrong, I could be completely wrong but my intuition tells me that I'm not.

[LDG]

They do but on this occasion Arsenal knew he is coming back from injury, if they were a little bit more circumspect then it possibly wouldn't need Wilshere to tell the truth or not.

Soz. Do you mean now, or in the summer?

Regarding the here and now....It is frustrating that a highly paid medical team have allowed more damage to occur...but then, who's to say the dmage wasn't already a time-bomb...stress fractures often are.

He needs more milk.

He does!

Ian Rush says

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Soz. Do you mean now, or in the summer?

Regarding the here and now....It is frustrating that a highly paid medical team have allowed more damage to occur...but then, who's to say the dmage wasn't already a time-bomb...stress fractures often are.

He needs more milk.

He does!

Ian Rush says

I mean now.

If it already was a 'time-bomb' then wouldn't they know about it? That would surely have come up when he first started running again, or so I would've thought.