What's the point getting 4th place?

[Cripps_orig]

Losing is losing.

Seeing as we are less likely to lose in the EL although with Wenger in charge, we'd lose to some team from the outer reaches of Leichtenstein or Scotland, countries of that calibre so it doesnt make a difference.

Moral of the story - Wenger out

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Losing is losing.

Seeing as we are less likely to lose in the EL although with Wenger in charge, we'd lose to some team from the outer reaches of Leichtenstein or Scotland, countries of that calibre so it doesnt make a difference.

Moral of the story - Wenger out

Exactly if were gonna loose in the El we may as well loose in the CL.

[Cripps_orig]

Exactly if were gonna loose in the El we may as well loose in the CL.

We might go further in the EL though

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We might go further in the EL though

We probs might and we may not win it, don't mean we should settle for it, but i suppose this is what the club has sank too.

[Coney]

4th place trophy.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

4th place trophy.

Wumger

[Kano]

Exactly if were gonna loose in the El we may as well loose in the CL.

exactly. let's scrap all but 3/4 teams for the CL, similar for the world cup and 18 teams in the PL. the others will never have a hope of winning it so why bother?

let's just stick to the realistic winners and have done.

[Flavs]

Whenever we've faced a decent side in the Champions League recently, we've gone out. Yes, we can make it out of the group phase comfortably, because the quality of opposition is so mediocre, but you know we'll struggle to get beyond the Quarter Finals these days. Yet Wenger acts as if qualification for this tournament is the holy grail. But what's the point if you're not even competing with the best teams in this tournament, and simply making up the numbers? Sure, smaller teams may just be happy to participate in the UCL, but we're meant to be a big club, and our move to the Emirates was supposed to facilitate our ascent to the top table of European football and become part of the elite. Instead, we've regressed so far that we are simply satisfied to qualify for the tournament, and pick up the money which is all the board and Wenger care about.

I don't give a shit about 4th place anymore, give me 5th/6th and an FA Cup win any day. The Arsenal Economists may think I'm talking bollocks, but I'm a fan at the end of the day, not an accountant worried about the financial costs and benefits of winning the FA Cup compared to qualifying for the UCL.

So you only want us to play in the champions league if we are going to win it?

Jeez, what a knob jockey

[Olivier's xmas twist]

exactly. let's scrap all but 3/4 teams for the CL, similar for the world cup and 18 teams in the PL. they others will never have a hope of winning it so why bother?

let's just stick to the realistic winners and have done.

Yep we may as well let Barca keep the cup for the next 5 years and be done with it

[Flavs]

We also need magic jellybeans instead of that stupid hat.

Funny that cos i was just thinking what a talent Miyachi and Le Coq look.