January Transfers -- Speculation & Shit?

[Master Splinter]

Has Trabelsi had his medical yet?

Waiting for BlindFaith_8's Abe Simpson-esque story to confirm this.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

So he is on his way then?

Slight delay on the flight in order to pick up Cavani on the way.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Has Trabelsi had his medical yet?

Waiting for BlindFaith_8's Abe Simpson-esque story to confirm this.

So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.

[GP]

So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.

Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

[Kano]

Odemwingie :lol:

[BlindFaith_8]

My gf is Lithuanian :lol:

Lithuanian women seem to either be hot or ugly... There's no in between.

(No she's not ugly)

Have you ever been to Kaunus? One night I had planned to take some clients out for dinner, some off them turned me down because of the game, and I was like what the footie? No, Basketball! They absolutley love Basketball both men and women. I love the place even though I was their last November and it was freaking freezing! Worst place in terms of dodgy women and local mafia is Buadpest in Hungary. They pull you off the street for cheap drinks and make you pay 1000's in euros to to leave the bar or get the fuck kicked out of you and then escort you to every cash machine or worst case kill you and throw your lifeless body in the danub River. Very shady.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Barry Shitpeas. ::haha:

[GP]

Have you ever been to Kaunus? One night I had planned to take some clients out for dinner, some off them turned me down because of the game, and I was like what the footie? No, Basketball! They absolutley love Basketball both men and women. I love the place even though I was their last November and it was freaking freezing! Worst place in terms of dodgy women and local mafia is Buadpest in Hungary. They pull you off the street for cheap drinks and make you pay a 1000's in euros to to leave the bar or get the fuck kicked out of you and then escort you to every cash mmachine or worst case kill you and throu in the danub River. Very shady.

Then after World War Two, it got kinda quiet, 'til Superman challenged FDR to a race around the world. FDR beat him by a furlong, or so the comic books would have you believe. The truth lies somewhere in between.

[GP]

Barry Shitpeas. ::haha:

Philomena Cunk :lol:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Jim White sounds so depressed deadline day has been a shocker.

His year ruined.... until August anyway...

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

cleverly played by wenger.

dont sign what we need aka DM and striker. instead buy a left back in the last hour to leave on a high and psychologically make it seem like we've had a good window and strengthened.

1 signing was not enough. if anything it should have been 1. DM 2. striker 3. defender in that order.

he's gone for number 3 :doh:

[BlindFaith_8]

Odemwingie :lol:

He has been very foolish or mis advsied. Can you imagine how stupid he'll feel when he goes to training tomorrow at WBA. But then again why would WBA want to keep player who drove himself to get a deal going, I woud cut my losses and would have sold him to Arry Crooknapps mob.

[Kano]

Have you ever been to Kaunus? One night I had planned to take some clients out for dinner, some off them turned me down because of the game, and I was like what the footie? No, Basketball! They absolutley love Basketball both men and women. I love the place even though I was their last November and it was freaking freezing! Worst place in terms of dodgy women and local mafia is Buadpest in Hungary. They pull you off the street for cheap drinks and make you pay 1000's in euros to to leave the bar or get the fuck kicked out of you and then escort you to every cash machine or worst case kill you and throw your lifeless body in the danub River. Very shady.
There's a good chance that happened.

[Grebbo]

Have you ever been to Kaunus? One night I had planned to take some clients out for dinner, some off them turned me down because of the game, and I was like what the footie? No, Basketball! They absolutley love Basketball both men and women. I love the place even though I was their last November and it was freaking freezing! Worst place in terms of dodgy women and local mafia is Buadpest in Hungary. They pull you off the street for cheap drinks and make you pay 1000's in euros to to leave the bar or get the fuck kicked out of you and then escort you to every cash machine or worst case kill you and throw your lifeless body in the danub River. Very shady.

Yeah she's from Kaunus. I went last Jan and it was -20. I have to say I didn't think the women were that amazing but I think I went out on a dud night. They're obsessed with bball, their team used to be quite good but it's shot now. I watched them get raped in the Olympics. Funnily enough I am going to Budapest on Monday! Random.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVcPd4gisl4&feature=player_embedded#

GHELs.

[BlindFaith_8]

Rumour has it that Diame has had his release clause triggered. Could it be Arsenal?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

STFU Andy Burton.

[Kano]

Rumour has it that Diame has had his release clause triggered. Could it be Arsenal?
it's going to be a hell of a mess to clear up whoever done did it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hopefully Simon Jordan gives Burton a good smack.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

the deals done.

it'll get announced at 10.59pm. they want to make us sweat so we think 'well at least we signed a defender yay'.

idiots.

[BlindFaith_8]

Yeah she's from Kaunus. I went last Jan and it was -20. I have to say I didn't think the women were that amazing but I think I went out on a dud night. They're obsessed with bball, their team used to be quite good but it's shot now. I watched them get raped in the Olympics. Funnily enough I am going to Budapest on Monday! Random.

Nice, I was there when they had the marching band in the local town square whith all the military statues stand, which is when I met Vladamir Romanov who was staying in the Park Inn hotel where I was staying. We had a quick chat about Hearts and football in general, he then asked me if I was going to the square in the evening to watch the band stand but I had other plans, besides it was minus 10 that evening. I can't remember seeing an ugly bird. I am planning to go again soon.

Word of advise on Budapest! Make sure you check out online the bars and clubs to avoid, seriously it's a dangerous city, I know people who have travelled their on business and not walked out of their hotels, and some travelled with a body gaurd becuase organised crime there is rife. I went online and checked reviews on bars and clubs. do your research mate.

[GP]

the deals done.

it'll get announced at 10.59pm. they want to make us sweat so we think 'well at least we signed a defender yay'.

idiots.

Yeah, we definitely didn't need a left back.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Norwich fans are back.

Poor Kate Riley.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Have you ever been to Kaunus? One night I had planned to take some clients out for dinner, some off them turned me down because of the game, and I was like what the footie? No, Basketball! They absolutley love Basketball both men and women. I love the place even though I was their last November and it was freaking freezing! Worst place in terms of dodgy women and local mafia is Buadpest in Hungary. They pull you off the street for cheap drinks and make you pay 1000's in euros to to leave the bar or get the fuck kicked out of you and then escort you to every cash machine or worst case kill you and throw your lifeless body in the danub River. Very shady.

Are you a prostitute?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Norwich fans are back.

Poor Kate Riley.
She speaks incredibly slowly.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

She speaks incredibly slowly.

Sky are probably thinking it gives the viewers more time to ogle her.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Sky are probably thinking it gives the viewers more time to ogle her.
Well you can't fault their logic.

[BlindFaith_8]

Norwich fans are back.

Poor Kate Riley.

Talk of Ho's, it's rife. I went to a strip club in Budapest where the club arranges to pick you up by private taxi and give you free drinks for 2 hours with exception to the premium brands. So I go to this place and its half full of guys and about 3 strippers to every guy. I was sitting down smoking as they can still smoke in clubs and bars, I get a 10 minute dance for like £10 and you can literally do what you want behind this curtain, which you couldnt in a london strip club. So she offers me a full nights service for the eaul amount of £250. I told her I would think about it, and then she goes to the owner of the club and tells him I am looking for some piece of action and before I know it, fucking each girl comes over and starts a 5 minute negotiation on how much she charges and what she offers with each one under cutting each other, it was a meat market.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well you can't fault their logic.

Did you join us on Loan from the Liverpool message boards?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Reporter having to tell the Spud fans to STFU. :lol: Although it sounds like there is an idiot 'Ammer in the background.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Are you a prostitute?

Jackanory presenter?

[BlindFaith_8]

Natalie Sawyer is babe. She is half bulgarian and is married to that fucking twat Sam Maatetrface from talkshite.

[Letters]

Yeah, we definitely didn't need a left back.
Don't forget we also have Santos who can't play there.

[Xhaka Can’t]

This is going to kill him. :pray:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Did you join us on Loan from the Liverpool message boards?

One of those fan exchange things.

In the end I think I just got Stockholm syndrome or took a blow to the head or something.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

arry :haha: :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Late 'Arry interview. :rolleyes:

[Dennis Bendtner]

We ordered some nachos, where the fack are they?

[LDG]

Boom! Slam! Shut!

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

fucking shite.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/nacho-monreal-agrees-to-join-arsenal

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

And Big Ben strikes 11.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01546/19991231-auld-lang_1546340i.jpg

[Traxion]

We ordered some nachos, where the fack are they?

Your Nachos have been delivered!!!

[LDG]

Montreal :bow:

[milla]

Montreal :bow:

Monorail :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Nacho Man. :bow:

Well done to Wenget for reacting to a problem area.

[Traxion]

Hell hath frozen over we signed a player!!! :yikes:

[LDG]

I don't think i've ever been so excited about a signing.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/nacho-monreal-agrees-to-join-arsenal

Thank feck for that. . .Arsenal.com's transfer page typist was fearing redundancy for a moment

To be fair we should have been raping Malaga for all they got! CL cup tied? Didnt Malaga play in thst?

[Marc Overmars]

Bit of shocker for deadline day in the end then?

Jim White. :rose:

[Joker]

Can't be any worse than Santos tbh. However, I think he's cup tied for the Champions League which isn't ideal.

[Traxion]

Thank feck for that. . .Arsenal.com's transfer page typist was fearing redundancy for a moment

To be fair we should have been raping Malaga for all they got! CL cup tied? Didnt Malaga play in thst?

Yep they did, won their group so he aint playing against Bayern. We are gonna have to play Vermaelen at left back in that. Ribery would absolutely rape Santos!!

[Marc Overmars]

Can't be any worse than Santos tbh. However, I think he's cup tied for the Champions League which isn't ideal.

We're getting hammered in that tie so it doesn't matter tbh.

[Marc Overmars]

Wouldn't want to be Odemwingie at West Brom training tomorrow. :lol:

[BlindFaith_8]

Wouldn't want to be Odemwingie at West Brom training tomorrow. :lol:
He is going to be kissing ass until his tongue turns septic.

[Injury Time]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/nacho-monreal-agrees-to-join-arsenal
So he'll be played little bit right side midfield (wenger has banned the word "wing")
-So horse face & shitfuck out on loan did Jenks go to stoke in the end?
+nacho (signed for singin purposes :scarf:)

[Ralpheroo72]

Odemwingie turned up at Loftus rd, they wouldnt let him in, so he left. Pure class!

[BlindFaith_8]

Not really excited about this signing espicially when you he is cup tied for the tie with Bayern, tbh the last january window that really got me doing cart wheels was the Jose Antonio Reyes signing. He would have developed in to a world class player had he stayed. He fucked up going back to Spain, his career went backwards and is a nobody now.

[Injury Time]

Not really excited about this signing espicially when you he is cup tied for the tie with Bayern, tbh the last january window that really got me doing cart wheels was the Jose Antonio Reyes signing. He would have developed in to a world class player had he stayed. He fucked up going back to Spain, his career went backwards and is a nobody now.
Hmm are you Zimms distant cousin dictating to Falvs to type?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I don't think i've ever been so excited about a signing.

As this signing means no Santos. .it is easy to see why :)

[kas]

Excited - Rumour has it that Bolton have f.....ed Afobe back to us - no good
Their fans said the 'Jap' we loaned them last year was a coward also..
Guess they expected another 'Jack' !

[Japan Shaking All Over]

So about 15 left. . and no sign of Villa
Which means it would have been an empty window if Gibbs hadnt got injured or Santos wasnt so dog shite

Now we have the summer to look forward to and the usual Gayzidis statement of their being money available and Wenger starting off by saying he will spend it! . .at least we are consistent

[Kano]

So about 15 left. . and no sign of Villa
Which means it would have been an empty window if Gibbs hadnt got injured or Santos wasnt so dog shite

Now we have the summer to look forward to and the usual Gayzidis statement of their being money available and Wenger starting off by saying he will spend it! . .at least we are consistent

hate to tell ya JSAO - it ended 45 minutes ago.

also

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3812/nacholibreb.jpg

[Cripps_orig]

Our season :rose:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

ok panic mode over

our defence has been shit

we signed a quality defender

that should help balance that out

wenger :bow:

[BlindFaith_8]

Would have made good sense to have added a right back as Sagna is absolutley shit, prefer Jenkinson any time of the day but Wenger doesnt think so, but how Wenger does not see in his DVD's how crap Sagna is playing, giving the ball away, not being able to make a simple pass, he just doesn't seem interested.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

hate to tell ya JSAO - it ended 45 minutes ago.

also

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3812/nacholibreb.jpg

:ilt:

[BlindFaith_8]

:haha:
hate to tell ya JSAO - it ended 45 minutes ago.

also

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3812/nacholibreb.jpg

[Özim]

Don't know much about this guy but can't be bad if he plays for Spain. It won't save our season seeing as we have dodgy centre backs but at least it's a signing.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

our last 4 signings have been podolski, giroud, cazorla and monreal.

:bow:

#optimismcrew

[Master Splinter]

our last 4 signings have been podolski, giroud, cazorla and monreal.



Do not forget we signed also Iliev.

http://arsenalyouth.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screen-shot-2012-09-13-at-09-03-00.png?w=560

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I think we had been linked with him in the past. . .but we obviously only got him,for the same reasons I mentioned before which confirms the wise ones's opinions that we werent signing anyone.

I just dont get it. . .everyone can see the squad is at least one striker short. . .feck Theo and Ollie can score two each every game and there still would be a need for a quality back up. . .I mean this is a physical game (although by the way our CBs play it, you wouldnt think so) and injuries do happen. . .but we have Pods, who is just starting to look good on tge left so who plays there instead of him? Ramsey? Diaby?

And then there is midfield, we most definitely need a DM but did we get one? No we didnt. . .all the talk. . .shit why do they bother. . .'Ive got to go, transfer work to be done' - that was one snippet. . .and I fall for it every time

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Firgot yo say. . .its not them that are muppets. . .its most definitely me

[Niall_Quinn]

So no Villa. No Cavani. I'm shocked. But also no Santos, so good window by our standards. We brought a player in to get rid of a player we previously brought in. I wonder if just signing quality in the first place might have been cheaper?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

So no Villa. No Cavani. I'm shocked. But also no Santos, so good window by our standards. We brought a player in to get rid of a player we previously brought in. I wonder if just signing quality in the first place might have been cheaper?

Ummmmm! now there's a stumper. . .may need an abacus to work that out

[Japan Shaking All Over]

So no Villa. No Cavani. I'm shocked. But also no Santos, so good window by our standards. We brought a player in to get rid of a player we previously brought in. I wonder if just signing quality in the first place might have been cheaper?

Oh yeah and Law's dick wasnt wasted in Spain, after all

[Injury Time]

Do not forget we signed also Iliev.

http://arsenalyouth.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screen-shot-2012-09-13-at-09-03-00.png?w=560
Is it just me but does Arsene look more and more like Jimmy Saville as the years go by?

[LDG]

This was the 2% we needed! :woohoo:

[Lord Nelson]

Do not forget we signed also Iliev.

http://arsenalyouth.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screen-shot-2012-09-13-at-09-03-00.png?w=560

Also, dont forget that we still have Mert, Kos and Verm that are complete shi* centre backs! :d

Goodbye 4th place!:angry:

[GP]

Is it just me but does Arsene look more and more like Jimmy Saville as the years go by?

No, it's just you that looks more and more like Jimmy Saville as the years go by.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

AST sums up the window

http://m.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Arsenal-FC-blasted-by-Supporters-Trust-for-failing-to-strengthen-squad-201302010006/

[Niall_Quinn]

AST sums up the window

http://m.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Arsenal-FC-blasted-by-Supporters-Trust-for-failing-to-strengthen-squad-201302010006/

Maybe their telephone directory is different but in mine if you look though the 'A's you find one Arteta and we already have him.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/wenger-happy-to-rely-on-strength-of-current-squad-7742308.html

Are you definitely related to Wenger. Is there doubt? No, I say not even little bit.

[KSE Comedy Club]

AST sums up the window

http://m.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Arsenal-FC-blasted-by-Supporters-Trust-for-failing-to-strengthen-squad-201302010006/

They've finally woken up.

[Master Splinter]

The sooner that **** is gone the better.

Yeah, ********* talks so much *****.

[Gooner23]

Sucker

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

http://i43.tinypic.com/1ekk5x.jpg

[Marc Overmars]

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews

Sky sources: Peter Odemwingie sent home from West Brom training - follow the story as it unfolds on #ssn

:lol:

[GP]

Hey I just drove here
And this is crazy
I'm in your car park
So sign me maybe

[BlindFaith_8]

Hey I just drove here
And this is crazy
I'm in your car park
So sign me maybe
:clap::clap::clap: In a way I do feel sorry for the guy, QPR made a good offer for 3 Mill, how much where they expecting for him at 31 years old and he probably felt a deal would be done, so rather than rushing down to London, he probably thought he should drive down in anticipation of the deal going through. Ok so he jumped the gun and I have done the same when I have handed my notice which has been rejected, so I left and never comeback. Started my new job on the Monday and got a call from HR asking me why I never showed for work. Told them because I have started my new job and she said I have to comeback and see out my notice of 4 weeks, so I told her that wont happen and just to move on, they threatened me with legal action so I just said fine, take me to court and nothing ever came back. In life a person has a choice where he wants to work and I hate it when employers think they own you like a piece of meat. If you're not happy at work and you can make more money elsewhere than an employee has that right in my humble opinion to move jobs even if his employer is refusing to let him go. The company don't give a shit when they sack you or make you redundant or lower your salary.

[selassie]

It'll be groundhog day in the Summer with this transfer thread.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Excited - Rumour has it that Bolton have f.....ed Afobe back to us - no good
Their fans said the 'Jap' we loaned them last year was a coward also..
Guess they expected another 'Jack' !

Interestingly, Owen Coyle was on 5live the other night talking abut Miyaichi and he said the complete opposite.

[Power n Glory]

:clap::clap::clap: In a way I do feel sorry for the guy, QPR made a good offer for 3 Mill, how much where they expecting for him at 31 years old and he probably felt a deal would be done, so rather than rushing down to London, he probably thought he should drive down in anticipation of the deal going through. Ok so he jumped the gun and I have done the same when I have handed my notice which has been rejected, so I left and never comeback. Started my new job on the Monday and got a call from HR asking me why I never showed for work. Told them because I have started my new job and she said I have to comeback and see out my notice of 4 weeks, so I told her that wont happen and just to move on, they threatened me with legal action so I just said fine, take me to court and nothing ever came back. In life a person has a choice where he wants to work and I hate it when employers think they own you like a piece of meat. If you're not happy at work and you can make more money elsewhere than an employee has that right in my humble opinion to move jobs even if his employer is refusing to let him go. The company don't give a shit when they sack you or make you redundant or lower your salary.

He's been stitched up a bit by the Sky Sports deadline day reporting frenzy. I suppose if a deal was thrashed out last minute he'd have to be in London for the medical. Or can that be done the next day?

[Gooner23]

He's been stitched up a bit by the Sky Sports deadline day reporting frenzy. I suppose if a deal was thrashed out last minute he'd have to be in London for the medical. Or can that be done the next day?

Plus the crook was involved, so there was probably all kinds of underhand tactics going on.

[Kano]

Interestingly, Owen Coyle was on 5live the other night talking abut Miyaichi and he said the complete opposite.
good thing he's on loan at wigan then.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

:)

[Fist of Lehmann]

good thing he's on loan at wigan then.

Not really.

[Kano]

shut up

also

http://i.imgur.com/JWbxqSr.jpg

[BlindFaith_8]

He's been stitched up a bit by the Sky Sports deadline day reporting frenzy. I suppose if a deal was thrashed out last minute he'd have to be in London for the medical. Or can that be done the next day?

I think he was there on good intentions, and he's a footballer for ffs, they are not the cleverest breeds are they now. I think WBA have been acting like ****s, and I cant stand that miserable sweaty Clarke, he's got an £18 million player on loan who doesnt want to go back to Chelski, I am sure Clarke has brain washed him to continue his football with WBA rather than go back to his parent club. And why keep an unhappy player at your club? For me, WBA come out of this like a bunch of ****s.

[Özim]

I think we should have bought another centre back if we could (Hummels would have been my choice) and maybe someone with a bit of flair and dribbling ability a winger/forward perhaps to make us more unpredictable and give us a more realistic chance of picking up some silverware.

Nacho will hopefully improve our defence a bit but there's only so much you can do with clowns playing alongside you back there, an attacking player might have given us more of an edge as well.

[fakeyank]

shut up

also

http://i.imgur.com/JWbxqSr.jpg

:haha:

Love the santos part on the left! :lol:

[Letters]

I think we should have bought another centre back if we could (Hummels would have been my choice) and maybe someone with a bit of flair and dribbling ability a winger/forward perhaps to make us more unpredictable and give us a more realistic chance of picking up some silverware.

Nacho will hopefully improve our defence a bit but there's only so much you can do with clowns playing alongside you back there, an attacking player might have given us more of an edge as well.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the players in defence. Sagna obviously isn't a clown. Our CB's are #decent.
It's the coaching that causes the issues in defence IMO.

We could have done with a bit more creativity up front and a striker to replace Chamakh, Gervinho and Arshavin none of whom are up to it.

[Kano]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the players in defence. Sagna obviously isn't a clown. Our CB's are #decent.
It's the coaching that causes the issues in defence IMO.

We could have done with a bit more creativity up front and a striker to replace Chamakh, Gervinho and Arshavin none of whom are up to it.
The problem is, that was supposed to be resolved by having Bould or a more pro-active assistant. For whatever reason that clearly hasn't happened, so the only other option to stop the rot that has gone on for years is to bring in top of the range defenders who can do it themselves.

The problem is, that is highly unlikely to happen too, given the price range we buy in. Hummels would be fantastic but let's face it, why would he leave Dortmund for us? It's not going to happen. So that leaves us in a catch 22, where we have to keep outscoring the opposition and so we need top of the range up there to counterbalance the fact we are shocking at the back. But of course, that isn't going to happen either, so we are stuck in the mid-price range, which means mid-price range performances resulting in near or mid-table finishes.

The bottom line is, relegation.

sorry.

[Letters]

The bottom line is, relegation.
:lol: Behave.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the players in defence. Sagna obviously isn't a clown. Our CB's are #decent.
It's the coaching that causes the issues in defence IMO.



I disagree to an extent here. Our defenders are not younglings hoping to come good. They are all aged enough, experienced defenders who some how can't consistently be relied on to do the basics, which are the execution of properly timed tackles and clearances (most recent eg, Liverpool's 2 goals against us Wednesday).

Our blend is just plain ridiculous, especially our coterie of centre backs who are all shitte and who I feel no amount of coaching will significantly help/improve. Somewhere in there, at least one quality defender needs to be brought in for this hopeless bunch to feed off of and possibly adapt the basics of defending from.

[BlindFaith_8]

I think the left back signing was not needed. We could have played Verms at LB, what we really needed was a quality keeper and how the fuck did England's no 2 end up at Stoke for 3-4 Million? I have no confidence in our GK and he's our weakest link, he's full of himself but in truth he is a poor keeper, and I think the back 5 have no confidence with our keeper. How Wenger missed out on Butland is beyond me, he would have been my signing of the transfer window, i just have no faith in Votjek.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ches has regressed without a doubt, but I think it would be interesting to see how well a top keeper would fare with this lot infront of him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He hasn't missed out on him because he didn't want him (Butland). And really, how often can you say you've seen him? He's not even at Stoke for the remainder of the season.

[Özim]

I don't think there's anything wrong with the players in defence. Sagna obviously isn't a clown. Our CB's are #decent.
It's the coaching that causes the issues in defence IMO.

We could have done with a bit more creativity up front and a striker to replace Chamakh, Gervinho and Arshavin none of whom are up to it.
As mentioned above these guys aren't young players, they're players well past their mid 20's and now don't really have long to improve. I'm not convinced by any of them, the errors are schoolboy errors and whilst I agree the coaching is poor it doesn't excuse the errors we see week in week out.

We're crying out for leaders IMO, players than organise, lead and stand up to be counted.

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He hasn't missed out on him because he didn't want him (Butland). And really, how often can you say you've seen him? He's not even at Stoke for the remainder of the season.

Indeed. And I'm not sure 'England's No. 2' is such high praise when you look at his competition.

How long was Robinson England's No. 1 ffs?

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He hasn't missed out on him because he didn't want him (Butland). And really, how often can you say you've seen him? He's not even at Stoke for the remainder of the season.

I havent see much of him, but then again I never saw much of Joe Hart when he was loaned out, but he was soon being groomed as England's finest. Ok, so not Butland, I would rather have spent the money on a really good keeper and the one I have seen who I think is the best in the premiership is Begovic. he has to be our main target for the next transfer window, Since Lehman's departure we have struggled badly with keepers, and went bargain basement signing with two polish keepers who came on the cheap, ffs even the spuds has the insight to acquire a top keeper and they paid the money, in fact they had 3 top keepers until the Italian one went to play in the MLS and we have 3 shit keepers, your defence can be shit alle QPR but if you have a world class keeper you still have good chance of keeping clean sheets.

[LDG]

As mentioned above these guys aren't young players, they're players well past their mid 20's and now don't really have long to improve. I'm not convinced by any of them, the errors are schoolboy errors and whilst I agree the coaching is poor it doesn't excuse the errors we see week in week out.

We're crying out for leaders IMO, players than organise, lead and stand up to be counted.

I agree with you, and Letters really. These aren't bad players, but they lack leadership and stability, and in lacking the natural leadership someone like Adams or Keown, you rely on training ground dicipline. We have niether.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I havent see much of him, but then again I never saw much of Joe Hart when he was loaned out, but he was soon being groomed as England's finest. Ok, so not Butland, I would rather have spent the money on a really good keeper and the one I have seen who I think is the best in the premiership is Begovic. he has to be our main target for the next transfer window, Since Lehman's departure we have struggled badly with keepers, and went bargain basement signing with two polish keepers who came on the cheap, ffs even the spuds has the insight to acquire a top keeper and they paid the money, in fact they had 3 top keepers until the Italian one went to play in the MLS and we have 3 shit keepers, your defence can be shit alle QPR but if you have a world class keeper you still have good chance of keeping clean sheets.

I can't trust any keeper that is as heavily protected as someone like Begovic will be, in an extremely defensive team.

What insight have Tottenham shown? They can't decide whether they want to play Lloris or Friedel on a regular basis and neither of them are stopping the goals coming in anyway. Aside from perhaps two, there are no great keepers currently playing and even those are quite often producing howlers.

There are better keeper out there than what we have, there isn't a question about this but this idea that whatever other teams in the league do must be the solution is crazy.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Indeed. And I'm not sure 'England's No. 2' is such high praise when you look at his competition.

How long was Robinson England's No. 1 ffs?

And Green was there too. :lol:

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I wish we had that problem of having two keepers as good as each other and not knowing who to upset on the teamsheet. Wenger never invested in a decent keeper because he assumed with Verms and Merts in the back, they could protect the goalie even if he was a Rami Shabaan type. Just a thought.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I wish we had that problem of having two keepers as good as each other and not knowing who to upset on the teamsheet. Wenger never invested in a decent keeper because he assumed with Verms and Merts in the back, they could protect the goalie even if he was a Rami Shabaan. Just a thought.

Well how come they keep conceding goals then? It's not that they have two as good as each other, it's more that they don't want to upset the other I think. Plus that kind of constant changing in defence is hardly going to help with attaining consistency if it's a different back five nearly every game.

[Letters]

As mentioned above these guys aren't young players, they're players well past their mid 20's and now don't really have long to improve. I'm not convinced by any of them, the errors are schoolboy errors and whilst I agree the coaching is poor it doesn't excuse the errors we see week in week out.

We're crying out for leaders IMO, players than organise, lead and stand up to be counted.
I've felt for years that player for player our defenders are good enough but they've never been a good unit. We're not drilled as a defensive unit like Graham teams were and while I do wish we were less shaky at the back I wouldn't want us to be so focussed on defence. But there is a middle ground. The individual mistakes are maddening, I don't know if it's the midfield not helping them out enough or coaching them to pass rather than get rid or a lack of concentration.

Agree about a leader, that's been missing for years. I thought Vermaelan would be a good captain but he hasn't been. Wilshere ftw.

[Letters]

I wish we had that problem of having two keepers as good as each other and not knowing who to upset on the teamsheet. Wenger never invested in a decent keeper because he assumed with Verms and Merts in the back, they could protect the goalie even if he was a Rami Shabaan type. Just a thought.
Chez is fine. He needs to stop being cocky and dicking around with it but most of our goals come from defensive not 'keeping mistakes.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

The problem is, that was supposed to be resolved by having Bould or a more pro-active assistant. For whatever reason that clearly hasn't happened, so the only other option to stop the rot that has gone on for years is to bring in top of the range defenders who can do it themselves.

The problem is, that is highly unlikely to happen too, given the price range we buy in. Hummels would be fantastic but let's face it, why would he leave Dortmund for us? It's not going to happen. So that leaves us in a catch 22, where we have to keep outscoring the opposition and so we need top of the range up there to counterbalance the fact we are shocking at the back. But of course, that isn't going to happen either, so we are stuck in the mid-price range, which means mid-price range performances resulting in near or mid-table finishes.

The bottom line is, relegation.

sorry.

I agree with the argument that it may be more down to quality than training. On their day every one of our defenders is able but as a unit there still is a lack of cohesion which I suppose is something we can point the finger of accusation at the management but when it comes down to the sumple art of defending it is the individuals that need to take a look at themselves.

I have seen each Liverpool goal a couple of times now. . .and the first was just pure comedy. . .who was the first guy who fluffed their clearance? The cross was whipped in with pace but it should have never caused the kind of calamity it did. Then there was the second, hats off to Henderson for his bloody mindedness, but he should have been dropped by Santos before he got into the area. It was obvious from the start of his run that he had a start on Santos and Santos should have realised that himself and taken a card for the team, it never would have been red. The bottom line is Santos is too slow, out of shape and lets be honezt not good enough for the PL.

How long are we going to have to suffer the brain farts that seem to haunt and hurt us everytime. Verms against UTD to let RvP in, Kos and his fair share this campaign (even though he isnt starting) - like I have said they all arent bad players and no one is perfect, bad days at the office do happen but I would say more quality is needed. Nacho may have been a step in the right direction, we will have to wait and see but he is only in because of Gibbs getting injured which is a joke but now Gibbs should know his place isnt guaranteed. . .and that he needs to work. . .Santos? . . .history will say he once played for us