January Transfers -- Speculation & Shit?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

never in a million years did we bid £32 million for Mario Gotze, especially as on the Friday before the transfer window shut, Bolton described the bid Dick Law put in for Gary Cahill as "derisory"

[Globalgunner]

Djourou. :lol:

He got a contract extension last year. :doh:

The Dudfather runs this club like a local fiefdom, dispensing our money willy-nilly to those that please him and claiming paucity of funds when it comes to the things that the club really needs. Ii really think the man is afraid of success, because success brings a unique pressure of its own. Much better to lay low in mediocrity, better for all concerned.

[BlindFaith_8]

The Dudfather runs this club like a local fiefdom, dispensing our money willy-nilly to those that please him and claiming paucity of funds when it comes to the things that the club really needs. Ii really think the man is afraid of success, because success brings a unique pressure of its own. Much better to lay low in mediocrity, better for all concerned.

Spot on. I have always said all along, ******* is in a comfort zone, he doesn't ask the board for money and spends misely, at the same time bring in the riches of qualifying for the chumps league, however if he did sign marquee players and a significant amount of funds were released to back him, the board would expect to win the league, but he knows he can't compete with the top end managers and would fail, hence the board would realise thier manager has indeed lost the plot.

[Globalgunner]

never in a million years did we bid £32 million for Mario Gotze, especially as on the Friday before the transfer window shut, Bolton described the bid Dick Law put in for Gary Cahill as "derisory"

Even if by some miracle we did get Goetze. Wenger wouldnt know what to do with him. Probably play him at LB or convert him to a DM. After the debacle of Reyes and Arshavin, young flair players would be wary of coming here. What is he doing with Eisfeld anyway, so much talent there but he prefers to play Ramsey.

[Marc Overmars]

Joe Cole going back to West Ham. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Good signing for them

[GP]

never in a million years did we bid £32 million for Mario Gotze, especially as on the Friday before the transfer window shut, Bolton described the bid Dick Law put in for Gary Cahill as "derisory"

And then he went to Chelsea for half of what we offered.

[Marc Overmars]

Pardiola confirms Ba has gone.

Debuchy meanwhile is at the game tonight.

[milla]

Even if by some miracle we did get Goetze. Wenger wouldnt know what to do with him. Probably play him at LB or convert him to a DM. After the debacle of Reyes and Arshavin, young flair players would be wary of coming here. What is he doing with Eisfeld anyway, so much talent there but he prefers to play Ramsey.

Tis :gp:

[Mr. Lahey]

The problem we have is that the likes of Djourou, Chamakh and Bendy are on such healthy wages that clubs are frightened to buy them and also maintain their salary expectations.

This is one of the reasons why we can't shift the dross. We have a lot of it too...and for all our talk of being financially prudent, it's ludicrous that we have around 6 players who are surplus to requirements yet command 60K per week. Sad thing is they are all rubbish players too.

I can see Gervinho going the same way, Arsene should swallow his pride and sell the boy this summer before his stock is really low.


this is very very poor management on Wenger and Ivans (or whoever was involved). with all the talk about not having money (im not buying it tho) and not being able to afford players, the club sure go along way to waste it on players who dont even feature for the club. we arent even talking about 1-2 players we are talking about around 6!! this is inexcusable, unacceptable and Wenger and the other guy who signed these contracts should have thie asses fired for this alone. i dont think there is one other professional club in all of sports who would allow for that to happen.

[Ollie the Optimist]

according to german press, djourou is all set to be sold in the next couple of days.


sad to see him go in one sense, as he never compalined and always gave his all on the pitch and i wish him all the best. however, glad to get him off the wage bill. who knows, his depature and freeing up 50k, could be why theo is suddenly close to signing. his wages ahve been given to theo.

i hope djourou has a successful career elsewhere though, he gave his best. its all we can ask

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reigniting his interest in Rennes midfielder Yann M'Vila, 22, with hopes of making him his first signing of the transfer window.
Full story: Caughtoffside.com

Hes been shit for a while now

Looks like hes coming

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Hes been shit for a while now

Looks like hes coming

Made for us, tbh.

Sign him up asap.

[GP]

Demba Ba talks about his motivation for joining Chelsea.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_pIUNdCYAAVc-Z.jpg

[Globalgunner]

Demba Ba talks about his motivation for joining Chelsea.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_pIUNdCYAAVc-Z.jpg

The money in the transparent bag is for his agent and the wrapped bundles are for a flutter on the horses. The rest He`ll just waste.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

The money in the transparent bag is for his agent and the wrapped bundles are for a flutter on the horses. The rest He`ll just waste.

:gp:

So very true.

Footballers are ****s.

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/03/3644481/squillaci-ponders-january-exit-from-arsenal?source=breakingnews

Bye.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/01/03/3644481/squillaci-ponders-january-exit-from-arsenal?source=breakingnews

Bye.

Yay!!! :patrice:

[Injury Time]

he can ponder but who is going to pay him and play him in their first team?!

[Letters]

he can ponder but who is going to pay him and play him in their first team?!
Why would he want to be a bench-warmer for them?

[KSE Comedy Club]

never in a million years did we bid £32 million for Mario Gotze, especially as on the Friday before the transfer window shut, Bolton described the bid Dick Law put in for Gary Cahill as "derisory"
Unfortunately what Bolton said doesnt mean shit as they just wanted an extortionate fee for Cahill. We actually offered a fair price and one which turned out to be about £1m less than what they ended up selling him for :good:

[Gervinho's Forehead]

he can ponder but who is going to pay him and play him in their first team?!

you make an excellent point. :ilt:

[Injury Time]

Why would he want to be a bench-warmer for them?
to avoid having to look at Chaks shit hair?

[Gervinho's Forehead]

It's like Arsenal run a charity for shit "footballers".

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

according to german press, djourou is all set to be sold in the next couple of days.


sad to see him go in one sense, as he never compalined and always gave his all on the pitch and i wish him all the best. however, glad to get him off the wage bill. who knows, his depature and freeing up 50k, could be why theo is suddenly close to signing. his wages ahve been given to theo.

i hope djourou has a successful career elsewhere though, he gave his best. its all we can ask

:lol: if i had conned 60k a week from an organisation dumb enough to pay it id keep my mouth shut too.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

diaby back in training and frimpong returns from charlton.

excellent timing :haha:

another excuse not to add to the midfield.

[selassie]

diaby back in training and frimpong returns from charlton.

excellent timing :haha:

another excuse not to add to the midfield.

:haha: Wenger even mentioned Eastmond as a viable option in Midfield the other day.

[Syn]

:haha: Wenger even mentioned Eastmond as a viable option in Midfield the other day.

Oh man! :haha:

You said it friend!

It's funny because Eastmond not viable option at ALL...!

[saintnickle]

When are you all going to realise that we will only sign someone if walcott is sold ,and that will only be to keep the fans off the clubs back.Groundhog day x 8.The only way things will change at arsenal is if the status quo is broken and we dont get into the champions league .Until that time kronke and wenger will get richer

[saintnickle]

We have Fabianski injured and Mannone sick, but apart from that, everyone is alright. At this stage of the season, we have the whole squad available. Diaby is joining in after 12 weeks out. He's not match fit yet. Santos is joining in again. "Overall the situation is very satisfying."
If that quote from wenger isnt bad enough ,the bit with the quotes is enough to make you think he is from another planet.The blatant lies from the man and the timing of this stinks to high heavenTthe supporters of arsenal are being taken for a ride and a very long one at that.I dont know how he can look himself in the mirror ,nevermind sleep at night .What some people will do for money all be it 7 million pounds of it.He is a polititian and a con man.

[RomfordPele]

The only way things will change at arsenal is if the status quo is broken and we dont get into the champions league .

Not long to wait now. Without serious reinforcements, we won't get anywhere near 4th. But I agree with others that I don't really trust the mad professor with whatever transfer money PHW has stashed away under the mattress.

[Fist of Lehmann]

What I think people fail to remember is that we had an absolutely storming transfer window last January.



Eisfeld :bow:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Apparently Cmhrakh is heading to West Ham on loan.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Apparently Cmhrakh is heading to West Ham on loan.

:pray:

Hope they'll eventually buy him

[Gervinho's Forehead]

:pray:

Hope they'll eventually buy him

Who would want to buy shitmak? :haha:

Who would pay him as much as we do? :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Good luck to Chamakh.

Given one run in the team and he scored goals. Hardly kicked a ball since. Will do better under a better manager at West Ham

[fari]

Good luck to Chamakh.

Given one run in the team and he scored goals. Hardly kicked a ball since. Will do better under a better manager at West Ham

do west ham play a hoofball style? if so chams will def score a few.

[Marc Overmars]

Chakma's exit paving the way for a new striker? Could do with some #decent back up.

[Cripps_orig]

Henrys coming

yay

[Injury Time]

do west ham play a hoofball style? if so chams will def score a few.
I'm sure he'll "gel" there.
Benayoun going back to Chelsea....squad player with some work rate / nuts?

[Gervinho's Forehead]

I liked Benayoun, we should've kept him.

[Cripps_orig]

Hes been shite for years.

Must Get

[IBK]

according to german press, djourou is all set to be sold in the next couple of days.


sad to see him go in one sense, as he never compalined and always gave his all on the pitch and i wish him all the best. however, glad to get him off the wage bill. who knows, his depature and freeing up 50k, could be why theo is suddenly close to signing. his wages ahve been given to theo.

i hope djourou has a successful career elsewhere though, he gave his best. its all we can ask

Yes.

[Cripps_orig]

ARSENAL flop Marouane Chamakh is wanted by struggling Reading.
The Moroccan striker, 28, who has scored eight goals in 40 league appearances since signing from Bordeaux in 2010, is a loan target for Royals boss Brian McDermott.
But they face competition from West Ham for Chamakh, who has four goals this term.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4725405/Arsenal-misfit-striker-Marouane-Chamakh-wanted-by-struggling-Reading.html#ixzz2GxwfnLZi

Good luck to him

[hobson's choice]

Good luck to him

Why can't we sell these players. For all the shit we talked about Eboue, at least someone wanted to actually buy him.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Good luck to him

I'd rather we tried to sell him rather than have a possibilty of him returning and partnering either geronimo or giroud upfront.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Why can't we sell these players.

:gp:

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger saying he is interested in Holtby but doesnt know whether he will go for him this month or in the summer when his contract ends.

Has someone told him he can get Holtby to sign now and have him join in the summer? :doh:

We all know whats going to happen. He will wait til the summer, someone else will get him this month and then after he excels at whatever club he is at, Wenger will come out with the "we nearly got him" BS which he does

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

how can liverpool get rid of a crocked, overhyped, injury plagued joe cole in 48 hours but we cant get rid of denilson, bendtner, chamakh, squillaci or djourou in 12 months?

[fakeyank]

how can liverpool get rid of a crocked, overhyped, injury plagued joe cole in 48 hours but we cant get rid of denilson, bendtner, chamakh, squillaci or djourou in 12 months?

Good question!! Denilson and Bendy have been on loan but they are just running down their contracts and our chance to make any money off their arse. I cannot understand how the other 3 are still here! Surely they couldve been loaned out to some championship side.. may be we couldve paid part of their salary as well but having them in the squad is a disaster! I'd rather have some youngsters with promise there.

Do not forget we also have Arshavin who is mooching off 90K a week. Brilliant player played out of position and completely useless for us. Surely we couldve offloaded him to some Russian team.. I just do not understand what the fuck is going on at our club!

[Joker]

Arsène Wenger expects a "very calm" transfer window - at least in the first couple of weeks.

The Arsenal manager has declared an interest in strengthening his squad before the end of January and, as ever, has been linked with a long list of potential signings.

Ultimately, Wenger feels a lack of transfer funds across football will affect the degree of movement among players.

"[I'm expecting it to be] very calm because, first of all, I believe there is little money and what can happen is basically a transfer market within the English clubs," Wenger told Arsenal Player.

"That is more difficult than with the foreign clubs. Overall, I believe that not a lot will happen.

"That [the economic situation] could [affect movement], because the clubs have to look at the finances. What makes the clubs are the fans and what makes the fans is the economy. On that front, nobody is really sure what will happen in 2013."

But Wenger believes there is no shortage of quality available, especially with a number of experienced players available on free transfers at the end of the season.

"A lot [are] over 30," he said. "Of course, they are all great players. They have proven that.

"It shows that the market will be more difficult for the players because the fact that you have so many top-quality players available means that [the clubs] are cautious as well."


http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-the-market-will-be-calm-at-first

Little bit waiting period

[McNamara That Ghost...]

how can liverpool get rid of a crocked, overhyped, injury plagued joe cole in 48 hours but we cant get rid of denilson, bendtner, chamakh, squillaci or djourou in 12 months?

He's English and went on a free.

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-the-market-will-be-calm-at-first

Little bit waiting period

I swear he makes this same observation about every transfer window.

[Grebbo]

He's English and went on a free.

And they gave him £3m to fuck off.

[Grebbo]

Is Fabregas getting any game time? Any chance of getting him on loan?? Barca can get his wages off the books and he can continue his development with us.

:pray:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And they gave him £3m to fuck off.

I don't think that'd be enough for me to work with Fat Sam.

Cesc has been injured recently, hamstring went...again.

[bignev]

Cesc has been injured recently, hamstring went...again.

Arsene Knows :angry:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

He's English and went on a free.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgqvdorAsi1qg6sdmo1_500.gif

[Özil's Panoramic View]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-the-market-will-be-calm-at-first

Little bit waiting period

Now, where might I have heard these same arguments before?

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: same shit every transfer window.

and he wonders why we've become impatient.

continue disrespecting us arsene, you c*nt. you see it works both ways now.

[LDG]

"Are you disrespectin' me? Are you, Wenger, disrespectin' me bro?"

"Little bit"

[Fist of Lehmann]

If we don't sign someone this January I'm going to kill someone.

Preferably someone I met on the internet.

[LDG]

If we don't sign someone this January I'm going to kill someone.

Preferably someone I met on the internet.

I can make some suggestions.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

He's grown so defensive and arrogant that he just spouts his patronising drivel these days without any consideration of the effects it might have on the fans.

But then again, I'd probably do the same if I had a blind legion of mongs still chanting my name at matches and still holding up banners in full support; all this while I haven't delivered shitte in 7 years, systematically stripped them of the priviledge of watching world class players season after season, and subject them to eye bleeding torture of watching utter dross a la Gervinho and Ramsey match day after match day.

Lord Wenger :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-the-market-will-be-calm-at-first

Little bit waiting period

That is embarrassing. How is he still in a job?

[Fist of Lehmann]

I can make some suggestions.

PM me :good:

Maybe their transfer window slams shut. Little bit permanently.

[Power n Glory]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8379111/Boss-Arsene-Wenger-says-fans-will-be-desperate-for-big-names-to-arrive-at-Arsenal



Boss Arsene Wenger says fans will be desperate for big names to arrive at Arsenal

....Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is feeling the burden of appeasing fans by bringing in big names to help boost the club's hunt for silverware.

The Gunners have been linked with a £10m bid for Atletico Madrid striker Adrian Lopez, along with Crystal Palace starlet Wilfried Zaha and Schalke midfielder Lewis Holtby.

And with doubts still surrounding the future of Theo Walcott, the club will be keen to keep their loyal supporters on board and get involved in the January transfer window.

"It is very difficult because the level of expectation is very high - people want to see Lionel Messi come in, they don't want to see a promising guy," said Wenger ahead of their FA Cup visit to Swansea on Sunday.

"First of all the name gives hope. When a guy has no name people are already sceptical, so it's much more difficult for us."

Swansea look to have picked up the Premier League's bargain of the season £2m striker Michu, signed by manager Michael Laudrup from Rayo Vallecano.

With the Spaniard scoring both goals in the 2-0 win at Arsenal on 1 December, Wenger admitted the 26-year-old had not been high on the watchlist of the club's scouting network - now under more scrutiny to unearth a hidden gem.

"Sometimes when you are on a big club your scouts are a bit more cautious because they think 'oh, it is Arsenal it has to be a top four player', so naturally they are looking less at players who play at smaller clubs," the Frenchman added.

"You are always scared that he is a player who does not do well, the scouts are looked at as responsible. The competition is higher on scouting front, that is for sure.

"The country where we were really, really competitive was France, but now they produce less players than they did 10 or 15 years ago at the top, top level.

"The emerging countries now to produce players look to be Germany and Spain, who have many good young players."

This is what annoys me more. We don't expect a Messi type signings and promosing is fine as long as he's ready to help our season now and not have to go on loan to first. Also, the unknown players he has signed have all been given a fair crack of the whip with the fans but have turned into such duds that he won't even but them on the bench. He's out of touch with the fans and shouldn't make such statements.

[Injury Time]

how can liverpool get rid of a crocked, overhyped, injury plagued joe cole in 48 hours but we cant get rid of denilson, bendtner, chamakh, squillaci or djourou in 12 months?
they are still paying part of his wages for 18months...

[AKBapologist]

Actual news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20905628
:byebye:

[PGFC]

When he comes back he'll be like a new signing :d

[Marc Overmars]

Cheerio Chakma.

[Gooner23]

:woohoo:

Finally some good news, shame its only on loan.

Probably does confirm we'll be bringing in another striker tbf.

[Marc Overmars]

I'd laugh if he starts scoring reguarly there.

[AKBapologist]

I THINK his contract expires in summer...

[Cripps_orig]

Good luck to him

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal have made a formal approach for David Villa as they prepare a second bid for Atletico Madrid striker Adrian Lopez, Goal.com can reveal.

The Londoners remain in talks with Atletico to sign Adrian after tabling an opening offer of around £10 million, which was revealed by Goal.com earlier this week.

But Arsenal will not push through the deal for Adrian until they are definitively told by Barcelona that Villa is not available for a transfer this month.

Arsene Wenger is a long-time admirer of Villa, who turned 31 last month, and is prepared to pay up to £13.8m to sign him on a permanent deal and match his current £110,000-a-week wages.

Goal.com understands that Wenger has learned that Spain’s all-time leading goalscorer is keen to join Arsenal and make what would be a sensational move to Emirates Stadium after growing frustrated with his lack of opportunities at Camp Nou.

But Barcelona are playing hardball and remain reluctant to off-load such a valuable asset ahead of a twin assault on the Champions League and La Liga titles. The Catalan club have rejected the possibility of Villa going out on loan until the end of the season.

Arsenal are prepared to bide their time even though they have made bolstering their strikeforce a top priority in the window.

Wenger wants to sign a mobile, orthodox centre-forward this month who can play anywhere across his forward line and dovetail with his current first-choice spearheads Theo Walcott and Olivier Giroud.

Arsenal will only sign one senior frontman this month and Wenger’s sights are now firmly set on either Villa or fellow Spain international Adrian.

It is understood that a fee of £12m could be enough to push through the Adrian deal, which is lower than the £14.7m release clause in the forward's contract.

Goal.com understands that Arsenal opened negotiations with Atletico to sign the 24-year-old before Christmas. As revealed by Goal.com in October, Arsene Wenger has been closely pursuing Adrian, as he is known in his homeland, for months after failing to sign him last summer.

Villa’s potential availability has prompted a slight change of approach but it is uncertain whether Barca will come to the negotiating table.

No way this is going to happen

[Boss]

No chance at all of us getting Villa, 14M for a player with no resale value? Lols.

Adrian has 4 goals in 18 starts this season in a weak as fuck league, stay clear.

[Cripps_orig]

Southampton starlet Matt Targett is being tracked by Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool, Goal.com understands.

The 17-year-old left-back is regarded as one of the jewels of the Saints academy and the long-term successor to Luke Shaw, whose own future is the subject of intense speculation.

Shaw has been consistently impressive in the Premier League this season, and boss Nigel Adkins felt compelled to warn off potential suitors before he again caught the eye in Tuesday’s goalless draw with the Gunners.

But Targett, too, has been attracting the attention of some of the country’s biggest clubs with a string of promising displays for Southampton reserves in the Under-21 Premier League.

While only two months younger than Shaw, Targett would be available at a considerably lower price, due to his lesser profile and the fact he has yet to sign professional terms with the Saints.

Under the new rules laid down by the Premier League’s Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP), players under the age of 18 on youth contracts can be transferred for a fixed fee determined by the player’s length of service in the selling club’s academy.

Consequently, despite Targett having been with the Saints – his boyhood club – since the age of eight, any transfer fee would be only a fraction of the £9 million received for fellow youth graduate Theo Walcott, or the £12m Arsenal paid for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain in August 2011.

Southampton's academy enjoys Category One status – the highest possible rating – under the new system, but this has no bearing on the fees they are entitled to receive for their youth products.

No thanks

[Letters]

Good luck to him
Pretty much. He's not that good but he always did his best.

[Marc Overmars]

David Villa would be an excellent buy but there's no way we'd invest that much in a short term fix.

[Marc Overmars]

Spurs have signed Lewis Holtby. :sick:

He'll arrive in July on a bosman.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Pretty much. He's not that good but he always did his best.

did he? whenever i saw him, he was lazy and couldnt be arsed?

[LDG]

:haha:

Cue mass hysteria :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Schalke defender Benedikt Howedes has shelved contract renewal talks for the time being - which could tempt Premier League suitors into enquiring about him.
Manchester United and Arsenal have been linked with the centre-back in the past while Liverpool were rumoured to be interested in him last summer.
Howedes became captain of Schalke in 2011 and has been at the club for the duration of his senior career, having signed professional terms in 2007.
Along with the likes of Neven Subotic and Mats Hummels at champions Borussia Dortmund, Howedes is rated as one of the best defenders in the Bundesliga and his performances have been watched by Premier League scouts.
The 24-year-old Germany international has a contract with Schalke until 2014 and the club are eager to get him to sign an extension.
Initial talks were held but they failed to find a resolution and now Howedes has decided to end discussions until the end of the season at the earliest.
The news is likely to alert the likes of United, Arsenal and Liverpool but Schalke remain adamant the player will sign and his decision to postpone talks is a result of his desire to focus on the rest of the season.


Read more: http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130104/arsenal-liverpool-and-man-united-target-shelves-contract-tal#ixzz2H1YHssmH
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Mert and Howedes CB partnership, all German duo :bow:

Move Verm to LB.

Sell Kos

Happy days

[Marc Overmars]

:haha:

Cue mass hysteria :haha:

Why would there be hysteria when we've got Ramzi?

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger saying he is interested in Holtby but doesnt know whether he will go for him this month or in the summer when his contract ends.

Has someone told him he can get Holtby to sign now and have him join in the summer? :doh:

We all know whats going to happen. He will wait til the summer, someone else will get him this month and then after he excels at whatever club he is at, Wenger will come out with the "we nearly got him" BS which he doesLike i said. Part 1 complete

Part 2 titled "we nearly got him" coming to computer screens near you this Xmas

[LDG]

:lol:

[LDG]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/marouane-chamakh-loaned-to-west-ham-united

More importantly, the news we've been waiting on for some time, confirmed on Arse.com

Get in.

N_Q, wherever you are, it must feel like snorting cocaine of the tits of an 18 yr old virgin.

[GP]

Why would there be hysteria when we've got Wilshere?

Exactly.

[Power n Glory]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/marouane-chamakh-loaned-to-west-ham-united

More importantly, the news we've been waiting on for some time, confirmed on Arse.com

Get in.

N_Q, wherever you are, it must feel like snorting cocaine of the tits of an 18 yr old virgin.

:lol:

[GP]

Holtby is just a replacement for Bale anyway.

[Boss]

:woohoo:

Hope that talentless fuck never puts on our shirt again.

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20910839

Time for Wesley to come home.

[Power n Glory]

£200k a week...never.

Man Utd prehaps.

[Power n Glory]

Really we need a DM. What's happening with M'Villa?

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20910839

Time for Wesley to come home.

Must Get but no chance

[LDG]

Holtby is just a replacement for Bale anyway.

We have Eisfeld anyway. That lad is going to be some player.

[Injury Time]

We have Eisfeld anyway. That lad is going to be some player.
yeah and soon as he does the **** will leave (just getting in the slagging off early, saves disappointment later on)

[AKBapologist]

What does Sneijder do anyway? Always seemed like a prick, although a somewhat talented prick, I kind of got the sense he had no humility, and a humorless arrogant self inflated opinion of his self. I suppose you have to be to have 200k per week wages.

[Cripps_orig]

Hes a **** to RVC and thus a Must Get

[Özim]

Like i said. Part 1 complete

Part 2 titled "we nearly got him" coming to computer screens near you this Xmas
The guy is so predictable, no wonder he's regularly out thought by managers at small clubs! :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Pretty much. He's not that good but he always did his best.
One run in the team and he scored goals. Hardly kicked a ball since.

No complaints about him

[Ollie the Optimist]

One run in the team and he scored goals. Hardly kicked a ball since.

No complaints about him


good strikers come off the bench when given a chance and put effort in and make an impact.

they dont rely on one run of games to convince people that they score goals regularly

[Cripps_orig]

Tbf to Chamakh, during his run in the team he had the likes of Cesc and Nasri. Nasri left unfortunately and Cesc is a **** who left as well. Chamakh never got a chance to build some sort of partnership and was expected to produce in the 2 or 3 games he started.

Yeah it doesnt happen like that but i wouldnt expect you to get that

[Marc Overmars]

Chakma hasn't been well recieved by West Ham fans. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Hes better than what they have up front. He'll win them over

[Boss]

Chakma hasn't been well recieved by West Ham fans. :lol:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/football/premier-league/50812/chamakh-joins-west-ham-owners-son-not-happy

lols

[milla]

Chakma hasn't been well recieved by West Ham fans. :lol:

He will get few goals (if not more) for fat sam for sure. Perfect signing for fat sam long ball tactics IMO :coffee:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Hes better than what they have up front. He'll win them over

:haha:

[Ollie the Optimist]

if we are looking for a short term striker for a quick fix, surely eduardo would be a good shout?

[GP]

I love him but there's no point going back. It didn't work out for him here, time to move on.

I'm told by reliable sources that we are making serious inquires for David Villa.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I love him but there's no point going back. It didn't work out for him here, time to move on.

I'm told by reliable sources that we are making serious inquires for David Villa.

i hope we get villa, but my point was more, if we are looking round and cant get any striker like villa, eduardo wouldnt be too bad as a back up. he seems to bscoring in ukraine.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

we wont sign another striker. it'll mean giroud drops down to 3rd choice seeing as walcott seems to be ahead. he's just splashed out on giroud and wont want to 'kill him'.

we need a DM and versatile defender. we havent even replaced vieira yet for christs sake. how many more years do we need to wait.

[Marc Overmars]

Sperz are the early favourites for Sneijder. :rolleyes:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

twitter blowing up with villa talk.

are we all of a sudden eager to clear the dead wood in order to accommodate a big name signing? rather weird we've suddenly decided to let the shite leave all at once.

wenger :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

A Spanish midget who will actually be able to read Cheatzola's passing.

Villa is a must get.

[GP]

Ricky Villa :bow:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: villa.

awful team.

[fakeyank]

twitter blowing up with villa talk.

are we all of a sudden eager to clear the dead wood in order to accommodate a big name signing? rather weird we've suddenly decided to let the shite leave all at once.

wenger :bow:

This transfer, if true, does not make any sense to me!! We might as well have held onto RVP for the last year of his contract rather than spend all this money on a 31 year old just back from a serious injury! If he came for 6-7 million quid, it makes sense but not for the numbers being quoted!

[GP]

This transfer, if true, does not make any sense to me!! We might as well have held onto RVP for the last year of his contract rather than spend all this money on a 31 year old just back from a serious injury! If he came for 6-7 million quid, it makes sense but not for the numbers being quoted!

We probably would have it it wasn't for his 'fuck you' statement to the fans.

He made sure we couldn't hold on to him.

[selassie]

This transfer, if true, does not make any sense to me!! We might as well have held onto RVP for the last year of his contract rather than spend all this money on a 31 year old just back from a serious injury! If he came for 6-7 million quid, it makes sense but not for the numbers being quoted!

Can you honestly see Arsene paying 15million for a 31 year old...a World Class one may I add? His wage demands?

This isn't going to happen in a million years for various different reasons.

[Marc Overmars]

Djourou gone to Hannover on loan. :wave:

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/djourou-agrees-loan-move-to-hannover-96

[GP]

Bai

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Only on loan :banghead:

[Marc Overmars]

I suspect he'll be a serial loanee for a couple of years at least. :rolleyes:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Shit business once again, we really are pathetic.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Shit business once again, we really are pathetic.

:gp:

Indeed.

[Grebbo]

This transfer, if true, does not make any sense to me!! We might as well have held onto RVP for the last year of his contract rather than spend all this money on a 31 year old just back from a serious injury! If he came for 6-7 million quid, it makes sense but not for the numbers being quoted!

Yup it makes no sense at all. £16m and £100k+ pw for a 31 yr old?? Why not just give RVP a £16m signing on fee?!

Makes no sense.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yup it makes no sense at all. £16m and £100k+ pw for a 31 yr old?? Why not just give RVP a £16m signing on fee?!

Makes no sense.

because rvp didnt want to stay or even discusss a contract?

[Grebbo]

because rvp didnt want to stay or even discusss a contract?

Maybe, but who knows what he'd of done if we'd gone to him with this kind of offer a year before expiry.

[Özim]

All our dead wood is going out on loan, no f*cker wants to buy them as they realise they're a waste of money, no doubt we're either paying all or a large part of their salary as well, what a waste of f*cking time!

Oh and we won't sign Villa, we wouldn't give him the money and it's a big step down from Barca to us :lol:

[Özim]

Maybe, but who knows what he'd of done if we'd gone to him with this kind of offer a year before expiry.
Yeah and if we'd perhaps shown some willingness to spend some money and compete for trophies no doubt.

[Özim]

Can you honestly see Arsene paying 15million for a 31 year old...a World Class one may I add? His wage demands?

This isn't going to happen in a million years for various different reasons.
Exactly, there's no way we'll by Villa, we might buy his little brother from the scouts though.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yeah and if we'd perhaps shown some willingness to spend some money and compete for trophies no doubt.\


SPEND SOME FUCKING MONEY. ok, we will, we will sign david villa. DONT SIGN HIM, HE'S TOO OLD.

[Özim]

because rvp didnt want to stay or even discusss a contract?
Looks like he was proved right though, we've had a car crash of a season so far whilst his new team are flying high....I'm sure he's pretty happy with his decision right now.

[Özim]

\


SPEND SOME FUCKING MONEY. ok, we will, we will sign david villa. DONT SIGN HIM, HE'S TOO OLD.
We're not signing David Villa, this story is utter BS, Barca won't sell him either they need him at this stage as they paid the price for having a shortage of strikers last season.

Wenger won't sign a player of his calibre anyhow, this is the usual transfer window nonsense we hear every f*cking time, when will people learn not to believe in the BS.

[Grebbo]

We're not signing David Villa, this story is utter BS, Barca won't sell him either they need him at this stage as they paid the price for having a shortage of strikers last season.

Wenger won't sign a player of his calibre anyhow, this is the usual transfer window nonsense we hear every f*cking time, when will people learn not to believe in the BS.

:gp:

Arsenal to sign David Villa?

:haha:

[GP]

Apparently we are still owed a significant amount from Barca for previous transfers, and apparently we have made an offer for Villa.

Whether it happens or not remains to be seen.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Nothing yet for us. .apart from other teams buying players we were apparantly interested in. . .no durprise one of them being the Scum. . .Holtby :doh: another major miss. . .talk of Villa, people wanting him :good: . . .people questioning the idea of spunking 16mil plus wage demands is not going to happen :good: +

[Kano]

why is holtby a major miss? sure he plays for a good team and is german u-21 captain but until we played schalke no fucker had ever mentioned the little ****. this is exactly the reason i can't stand transfer time - it turns grown men into complete and utter spengs.

[Ollie the Optimist]

also we need players now. holtby isnt that. if we were to sign him now, it would cost money in transfer fees which would mean less wages being offered to him. whereas spurs want in the summer, so dont have to use a transfer fee and can give him more money.

[Özim]

RE: Villa :rofl:

[LDG]

Confirmed that Djourou will join hannover on loan.

[Cripps_orig]

On loan? :haha:

We can't get rid of these awful players for love nor money

[Gervinho's Forehead]

On loan? :haha:

We can't get rid of these awful players for love nor money

:gp:



:(

[Cripps_orig]

why is holtby a major miss? sure he plays for a good team and is german u-21 captain but until we played schalke no fucker had ever mentioned the little ****. this is exactly the reason i can't stand transfer time - it turns grown men into complete and utter spengs.
I did

[AKBapologist]

Worth a punt.
http://www.soccerfanbase.com/blog/6401/who-can-replace-robin-van-persie-at-arsenal-part-1/


sent from a fone

[Xhaka Can’t]

Looks like he was proved right though, we've had a car crash of a season so far whilst his new team are flying high....I'm sure he's pretty happy with his decision right now.


Swap him over here or sell him abroad and take his goals off Man United and their season looks worse than a motorway pile up.

Luckily Wenger fixed that for them.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Swap him over here or sell him abroad and take his goals off Man United and their season looks worse than a motorway pile up.

Luckily Wenger fixed that for them.

That was nice of him.




:ilt:

[Marc Overmars]

Wenget is the nicest bunny.

[Gooner23]

That was nice of him.




:ilt:


Im still pissed off we didnt force him to go abroad or make him see out the last year of his contract. Surely there has to be occasions where it isn't all about the money (naive perhaps I know). Of all the hits the fans have taken over the last few years, that really was the biggest slap in the face.

[GP]

Sadly, there was nothing else that could have been done once the judas cunt had decided where he wanted to go.

[-Xs-]

When selling your best players for footballing reasons, you simply have to ensure that they go to your rivals. Then you can attempt to never win fuck all again.

[Grebbo]

Our only hope is he gets injured or suffers a massive crash in form.

How the hell are we going to watch him win every game for Manure for the next 3-4 years!!!!

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[Kano]

it's all easier said than done when it comes to passing judgement on these things, when none of us have any inside info whatsoever.

and with that in mind, i'm happy to wish him the worst and call him a **** every time I see him. he deserves that much.

that's what a proper supporter would do, not sit and say 'i bet he's happy now' or 'good luck to him'. fuck him. he left, he's a **** now and plays for the leagues biggest ****s.

[Özim]

the leagues biggest ****s.
I was under the impression we had those upstairs.

[GP]

it's all easier said than done when it comes to passing judgement on these things, when none of us have any inside info whatsoever.

and with that in mind, i'm happy to wish him the worst and call him a **** every time I see him. he deserves that much.

that's what a proper supporter would do, not sit and say 'i bet he's happy now' or 'good luck to him'. fuck him. he left, he's a **** now and plays for the leagues biggest ****s.

:gp:

[Grebbo]

RVP is a **** tbf. All those years on sick pay and then he fucks off to Manure.

He could and should have gone abroad if he desperately wanted to leave.

Yes we're shit, yes RVP will have a better career for leaving us and joining Manure but yes - he is a **** of the highest order.

[Cripps_orig]

RVP is a **** tbf. All those years on sick pay and then he fucks off to Manure.

He could and should have gone abroad if he desperately wanted to leave.

Yes we're shit, yes RVP will have a better career for leaving us and joining Manure but yes - he is a **** of the highest order.Pretty much

[Cripps_orig]

5 January 2013 21:35
Antonetti: Rennes will accept right offer for Arsenal and Tottenham target M'Vila
By SW Lim

The 51-year-old is resigned to losing his star, after admitting the Ligue 1 outfit would be powerless to prevent a move elsewhere if the club's valuation for the player is met

Rennes coach Frederic Antonetti has revealed they will not oppose the departure of midfielder Yann M'Vila, provided his suitors were to make the right offer.

The France international remains one of the most sought-after targets in the transfer market despite failing to secure a move to the Premier League last summer, with Arsenal and Tottenham reportedly keen to renew their interest in the New Year.

Following M'Vila's recent comments that he would welcome a move, Antonetti has conceded he would be powerless to retain the 22-year-old's services against his will.

"I want to keep him, but if Rennes were to receive a suitable bid then he would leave," he lamented to RMC Sport. "He is better and more mature, and will go.

"It is part of the club's policy that he will leave if he has to, only, who will replace him?"

The defensive midfielder has made 14 appearances in Ligue 1 so far, helping the team to fourth place.


He's a bit shit but better than Arteta

[Özim]

RVP is a **** tbf. All those years on sick pay and then he fucks off to Manure.

He could and should have gone abroad if he desperately wanted to leave.

Yes we're shit, yes RVP will have a better career for leaving us and joining Manure but yes - he is a **** of the highest order.
As you said in one of your other post we should have sorted out his contract long before if we were that bothered about the possibility of losing him.

From his point of view he's 29 and probably doesn't want to waste the rest of his career at a club going nowhere, he's not got too many years left at the top to win trophies. Juve were supposedly interested but maybe he didn't fancy living in Italy that has to be factored in.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is preparing an £8m bid for Wigan midfielder James McCarthy, 22.
Full story: Daily Mirror


He's a bit shit but better than Arteta

[KSE Comedy Club]

Espn reckon we've bid £13.8m for villa.

And someone on twitter reckons mvilla is close to signing.

:rolleyes:

[Grebbo]

As you said in one of your other post we should have sorted out his contract long before if we were that bothered about the possibility of losing him.

From his point of view he's 29 and probably doesn't want to waste the rest of his career at a club going nowhere, he's not got too many years left at the top to win trophies. Juve were supposedly interested but maybe he didn't fancy living in Italy that has to be factored in.

I don't really blame him for leaving, we are really shit. I do think he owed us for being constantly injured though but at the very least he owed us not to stay in England.

He left his boyhood club for tuppence to join us so I guess their fans said he owed them to stay longer there.

That's football. There is no loyalty. I can't see there ever being another Matt le Tissier.

[Grebbo]

Espn reckon we've bid £13.8m for villa.

And someone on twitter reckons mvilla is close to signing.

:rolleyes:

:lol:

Same old shit. Neither deal will happen.

[RomfordPele]

:lol:

Same old shit. Neither deal will happen.

Yep, club spin to keep fans happy and disguise the fact that there's still no progress on walcott's contract.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Yep, club spin to keep fans happy and disguise the fact that there's still no progress on walcott's contract.

And with the names being so similar they probably dont even know which one is which

[BlindFaith_8]

Just finished watching Sunday Supplement on Sky, apparantly the Spudz have beaten us to the signing of Schalke Lewis Holtby, also these sports writers who do have their snitches say that AW not the board controls the wage structure which is probably the reason why Theo's contract has still not been agreed. We must be the only the club that the manager can pay himself what he likes £7.5 Mill the highest paid manager in the premiership for delivering fcuk all for 8 seasons, yet he won't offer Theo a contract he deserves and merits. We are now having the problem that players from the outside don't want to come to Arsenal because they can see the shit that is going on internally with the Theo mess, and he's meant to be our so called best player at the club and we won't pay him £100K per week, yet that greedy **** is on a fortune. Is it any wonder that the Spudz are now attracting players who are not interested in coming to Arsenal because they see we have no ambition and probably have the worst scouting system. Whilist that MOFO ******* is talking about potential player signings other clubs are actually talking to that player and making traction. We are becoming a hopeless laughing stock of European football.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Arsenal are probably the only club to keep a manager that has won nothing in over half the time he's been here.

[Letters]

RVP is a **** tbf. All those years on sick pay and then he fucks off to Manure.

He could and should have gone abroad if he desperately wanted to leave.

Yes we're shit, yes RVP will have a better career for leaving us and joining Manure but yes - he is a **** of the highest order.
Why is he? For leaving for more money and going to a better club who will win trophies?
Why should he have stayed? Why should he have gone abroad when he's settled into the country? To keep you happy?

[GP]

Why is he? For leaving for more money and going to a better club who will win trophies?
Why should he have stayed? Why should he have gone abroad when he's settled into the country? To keep you happy?

Exactly.

[Letters]

The real ***** are the powers that be at Arsenal who not only let him go, but did so to a team we finished directly below last season and who we're supposed to be rivals to.
If any of us were in an equivalent position in our jobs as RVP was we'd have done the exact same thing.

[Marc Overmars]

Why is he? For leaving for more money and going to a better club who will win trophies?
Why should he have stayed? Why should he have gone abroad when he's settled into the country? To keep you happy?

Are you new here?

We're pretty much the bitter ex-girlfriend.

[GP]

The real ***** are the powers that be at Arsenal who not only let him go, but did so to a team we finished directly below last season and who we're supposed to be rivals to.
If any of us were in an equivalent position in our jobs as RVP was we'd have done the exact same thing.

Once he decided he wanted to go there, in reality there wasn't much else we could do. We can't force him to go abroad, and we couldn't keep him.

The board have a lot to be blamed for, but not this one.

Bottom line is, after 8 injury prone years, he left us for Man Utd. No gooner should be defending him.

[Letters]

Bottom line is, after 8 injury prone years, he left us for Man Utd. No gooner should be defending him.You'd have made a different decision in terms of your career if presented with the choices RvP had in the summer?
I seriously doubt anyone would.

[GP]

You'd have made a different decision in terms of your career if presented with the choices RvP had in the summer?
I seriously doubt anyone would.

I might have shown a modicum of loyalty, yes.

Would I have gone to a club whose fans, for the best part of a decade, had sung songs about me being a rapist? Certainly not.

[Letters]

His only other option (if he wanted to stay in the country) was City. He'd have shown less integrity had he gone there. At least he went to a proper club, not a circus. He went to a club who will win trophies and pay him more, as opposed to a club who won't and won't. I'd have done the same, so would you.

If you took the fans and their nasty chants into consideration then you wouldn't go anywhere else in the same country. That shouldn't even be a factor for a player.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

I might have shown a modicum of loyalty, yes.

Would I have gone to a club whose fans, for the best part of a decade, had sung songs about me being a rapist? Certainly not.

Not even for triple what you've been earning?

[GP]

His only other option (if he wanted to stay in the country) was City.

No. He could have not been a massive turncoat judus cunt and stayed with us.

The defence of RvC is baffling.

[GP]

Not even for triple what you've been earning?

No.

I have just a little integrity.

[Letters]

Stayed at a club who won't be successful and won't pay him as much as a club who will be successful and pay him more?

He carried us last season, if he didn't think we were doing the right things to push us on and give us more chance of success this year then why stay when a more successful club are offering more money? Loyalty? Do me a favour, no-one makes career decisions out of loyalty.

[Letters]

No.

I have just a little integrity.
If someone offered you twice your salary to do the same job in a better company with more prospects then you'd take it.
So would I.
So would pretty much anyone.

[GP]

If someone offered you twice your salary to do the same job in a better company with more prospects then you'd take it.
So would I.
So would pretty much anyone.

Twice your salary or twice his salary.

Twice my salary is life changing.

Twice his salary is shitloads+1

[Grebbo]

Why is he? For leaving for more money and going to a better club who will win trophies?
Why should he have stayed? Why should he have gone abroad when he's settled into the country? To keep you happy?

I thought my post was self explanatory. He's a **** because we paid him for 8 seasons and he was injured for 6 of them. As soon as he got fit he fucked off to Manure.

[GP]

I thought my post was self explanatory. He's a **** because we paid him for 8 seasons and he was injured for 6 of them. As soon as he got fit he fucked off to Manure.

:gp:

I honestly can't understand why any Arsenal fan would try to defend him. He's gone, to Manure, no less. Therefore, he's a ****.

[Letters]

I thought my post was self explanatory. He's a **** because we paid him for 8 seasons and he was injured for 6 of them. As soon as he got fit he fucked off to Manure.
As soon as he got fit, saw he was carrying the team, saw we were selling our best players every summer, saw it wasn't going to change, got a better offer from a better club.

[Letters]

Twice your salary or twice his salary.

Twice my salary is life changing.

Twice his salary is shitloads+1
Fair enough but salary wasn't the only issue.
He's gone from a club who won't win anything and aren't showing any ambition to do so to a club who will and are.

If you were carrying the team you worked in and saw the company making your job harder each year by getting rid of other key staff and you got an offer from a company who were well resourced and you could see were ambitious.

Like MO said, we're the bitter ex. Rationally there's nothing wrong with RvP's decision, most of us would have done the exact same thing presented with the state of the club and the options in front of us.

[GP]

You keep asking what I would do.

I would stay at Arsenal.

There's no amount of money or shiny trinkets you could pay me to go there.

[Boss]

Fairly obvious that RVP left for the right reasons and that the team he chose was for the right reasons.

His last big chance to win some trophies, should pick up his first league title this season which is more than he ever could have won with us.

Everyone talking nonsense here is blinded by their love for AFC, fair enough we're talking about being loyal as posters on a messageboard but let's not pretend most of the people on here wouldn't have made the same decision.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Fair enough but salary wasn't the only issue.
He's gone from a club who won't win anything and aren't showing any ambition to do so to a club who will and are.

If you were carrying the team you worked in and saw the company making your job harder each year by getting rid of other key staff and you got an offer from a company who were well resourced and you could see were ambitious.

Like MO said, we're the bitter ex. Rationally there's nothing wrong with RvP's decision, most of us would have done the exact same thing presented with the state of the club and the options in front of us.

Hard to disagree with that.

But then again, we're emotion packed fans which devoids us of all rationality so just fuck off and die you Judas ****.

[Letters]

Hard to disagree with that.

But then again, we're emotion packed fans which devoids us of all rationality so just fuck off and die you Judas ****.
:lol:

Fair enough.

[Niall_Quinn]

RvP, Cesc, Nasri, all of them would have stayed if they had genuine ambition. Running off to the biggest clubs isn't ambition, it's the easy shortcut. Doing the hard things (admittedly close on impossible with Arsenal) is impressive, remarkable. So what if RvP wins a title with money bags Utd? Or lesbo picks up a trinket with some oil operation? That's unremarkable and unimpressive as Welles completely expected. Fact is, all of them shirked the challenge and pissed off to easy street. Certainly they made the right choices for them and certainly it's right for the fans that stay through thick and thin to berate them for abandoning ship.

[Özim]

Where's the challenge in staying with us, it'll be a miracle if we win anything....the manager isn't capable of producing a winning team anymore he's proved that.

Who want's to waste their entire career at a club that will never have a chance of winning under the current setup, you'd have to be a fool to do so.

[milla]

RvP, Cesc, Nasri, all of them would have stayed if they had genuine ambition. Running off to the biggest clubs isn't ambition, it's the easy shortcut. Doing the hard things (admittedly close on impossible with Arsenal) is impressive, remarkable. So what if RvP wins a title with money bags Utd? Or lesbo picks up a trinket with some oil operation? That's unremarkable and unimpressive as Welles completely expected. Fact is, all of them shirked the challenge and pissed off to easy street. Certainly they made the right choices for them and certainly it's right for the fans that stay through thick and thin to berate them for abandoning ship.

Nothing wrong with abandoning sinking ship. :coffee:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

RvP, Cesc, Nasri, all of them would have stayed if they had genuine ambition. Running off to the biggest clubs isn't ambition, it's the easy shortcut. Doing the hard things (admittedly close on impossible with Arsenal) is impressive, remarkable. So what if RvP wins a title with money bags Utd? Or lesbo picks up a trinket with some oil operation? That's unremarkable and unimpressive as Welles completely expected. Fact is, all of them shirked the challenge and pissed off to easy street. Certainly they made the right choices for them and certainly it's right for the fans that stay through thick and thin to berate them for abandoning ship.

tbf, we're also money bags.... just a bit more miserly.

[Niall_Quinn]

tbf, we're also money bags.... just a bit more miserly.

That's the one variable we have that no other (legitimate and serious) club has to tolerate. Our board and manager have no interest in winning anything. They say they want to win but their actions say the opposite. So I suppose on that basis it provides an excuse for the players who leave.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nothing wrong with abandoning sinking ship. :coffee:

The captain is expected to be last in the lifeboats. Our captains throw the women and children overboard to secure their priority escape.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

That's the one variable we have that no other (legitimate and serious) club has to tolerate. Our board and manager have no interest in winning anything. They say they want to win but their actions say the opposite. So I suppose on that basis it provides an excuse for the players who leave.

And they're also happy to charge the fans top money even though they have no intention of winning anything!

My dad has paid £125.15 to go and see the match vs hoofpool in a couple of weeks and that's just for a standard ticket! :lol:

[milla]

The captain is expected to be last in the lifeboats. Our captains throw the women and children overboard to secure their priority escape.

It's Wumger's fault for choosing the wrong captain, not the players. :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

And they're also happy to charge the fans top money even though they have no intention of winning anything!

My dad has paid £125.15 to go and see the match vs hoofpool in a couple of weeks and that's just for a standard ticket! :lol:

125 notes just to get in? Lol. Get a decent cigar, a decent malt, a curry and watch on tv. That way you can a,ways switch channel if the football starts to spoil you enjoyment.

[hobson's choice]

That's the one variable we have that no other (legitimate and serious) club has to tolerate. Our board and manager have no interest in winning anything. They say they want to win but their actions say the opposite. So I suppose on that basis it provides an excuse for the players who leave.


Nail on head, no matter how much you love where you work, if the management is incompetent, and not doing everything within their power to achieve success, it's only so much you can take.When you have options.


It'll be one thing if it was a situation where the club is punching above it's weight, but we all it's not the case.

[Globalgunner]

The facts are plain for all to see. We are are football club fallen into the hands of Corporate raiders who do not care about the history or ethos of the club as a winning enterprise they do not care a jot for the feelings of the fans and merely go through the motions each year to keep up the illusion of wanting to compete. they have done a simple cost/benefit analysis. spend 200m each year for a comfortable return of 250m. OR spend 300m for the risk of glory and a potential return of 400m. They have chosen the easier route.

The players can only stick with the project for so long. They see other clubs winning and want that feeling, just like the fans do. No talented player is going to risk a whole career with the only thing to show at the end is loyalty to Wenger. He calmly pockets 7m a year, probably 7 times what someone like laudrup gets and easily twice what 15 out of 20 managers in the EPL get. Yer he preaches frugality at every opportunity. He is a con artist and sold out to the board long before the snake oil salesman Kroenke showed up. We can hate on the players all we want but we know its true.

however Nasri, adebayor they are both s...theads. I still have respect for Cesc and RVP. I think both would have stayed if ******* had shown signs of changing his ways. We could have paid them what they are being paid elsewhere but we all know we prefer to waste our money on crap instead.

[hobson's choice]

We all love to call Ade names, but it was the club who sold him, from my recollection, he didn't negotiate anything with City, he was just told . Arsenal accepted their bid.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's totally sick, strange and perverted. But I clapped when RvP scored that stunner vs WHU. And then thought WTF? I knew he'd score as soon as the ball went near him. Hes the genuine article, the real deal. It was refreshing from a neutral (now Utd are several levels beyond us) view to watch a genuine talent doing highly competent work and actually making an argument for being worth what he gets paid. He really will nake all the difference for utd this year, itsnot hype, not media bullshit, its real. It's still unimaginable we sold him to Utd. The ultimate fuck off to the fans from everyone at arsenal and final confirmation we have precisely zero ambition in this league. What would happen if the situation was reversed? The answer is, silvestre.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

It's totally sick, strange and perverted. But I clapped when RvP scored that stunner vs WHU. And then thought WTF? I knew he'd score as soon as the ball went near him. Hes the genuine article, the real deal. It was refreshing from a neutral (now Utd are several levels beyond us) view to watch a genuine talent doing highly competent work and actually making an argument for being worth what he gets paid. He really will nake all the difference for utd this year, itsnot hype, not media bullshit, its real. It's still unimaginable we sold him to Utd. The ultimate fuck off to the fans from everyone at arsenal and final confirmation we have precisely zero ambition in this league. What would happen if the situation was reversed? The answer is, silvestre.


That is fucking sick man! :sick::sick::sick::sick:

Yeah we got silvestre from sir c*nt-alot we give him the worlds best striker :lol:

and then replace the worlds best striker with giroud :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

No chance of Cesc staying. He, before RVC did what he did was the biggest **** in football. Pining for a move back to the ****s, not playing for us, feigning injury.

[Cripps_orig]

That is fucking sick man! :sick::sick::sick::sick:

Yeah we got silvestre from sir c*nt-alot we give him the worlds best striker :lol:

and then replace the worlds best striker with giroud :haha:
Tbf Silvestre was miles better than Kos

[Globalgunner]

We all love to call Ade names, but it was the club who sold him, from my recollection, he didn't negotiate anything with City, he was just told . Arsenal accepted their bid.

The reason why i detest these 2 is not because they left the club, but cos i actually think they are diiiikheads with ideas above their station. They are Arsenal or sub Arsenal standard players who belive in their own minds that they are world class.

[Globalgunner]

Tbf Silvestre was miles better than Kos

No way man. Silvestre was worse than any disease that could land you in hospital.On a par with Igor stepanovs.

[Kano]

We all love to call Ade names, but it was the club who sold him, from my recollection, he didn't negotiate anything with City, he was just told . Arsenal accepted their bid.
no he just whored himself around like his mother telling us he almost signed for milan. this **** has been very lucky to be where he is today. and he has been treated very lightly by arsenal fans. too kind by half.

[Globalgunner]

Would anybody fancy a punt on Russel Martin. captain and CB at Norwich. I just googled his stats: 26 years old and far better than any defender we have at the club. Scores goals too. 4m would do it i guess.

[Cripps_orig]

Would anybody fancy a punt on Russel Martin. captain and CB at Norwich. I just googled his stats: 26 years old and far better than any defender we have at the club. Scores goals too. 4m would do it i guess.
Better than Kos for sure

[Cripps_orig]

No way man. Silvestre was worse than any disease that could land you in hospital.On a par with Igor stepanovs.

Stepanovs did rather well in the 01/02 season tbh when Keown and Adams were injured and he had a run of games

[Niall_Quinn]

Would anybody fancy a punt on Russel Martin. captain and CB at Norwich. I just googled his stats: 26 years old and far better than any defender we have at the club. Scores goals too. 4m would do it i guess.

Four solid CBs who do not have massive, massive flaws in their game. That would do. Merts, glacial, can't play at this level. TV position ally dreadful, no real comprehension of the defensive role. Kos, potentially okay if somebody would train him up. Djourou, yeah right. What a motley crew. Four average, solid defenders could make a huge difference. But to sign somebody would mean getting rid of somebody, won't happen.

[Globalgunner]

Stepanovs did rather well in the 01/02 season tbh when Keown and Adams were injured and he had a run of games
My abiding memory of him was the 5-1 tanking at OT. My wife had to restrain me from committing seppuku after that match.

[Globalgunner]

Four solid CBs who do not have massive, massive flaws in their game. That would do. Merts, glacial, can't play at this level. TV position ally dreadful, no real comprehension of the defensive role. Kos, potentially okay if somebody would train him up. Djourou, yeah right. What a motley crew. Four average, solid defenders could make a huge difference. But to sign somebody would mean getting rid of somebody, won't happen.

He`s a player I like, but if you ask me "do we sign Russel Martin, I say no."

[Master Splinter]

I believe Russell Martin has quality, yes.

Chris Martin?

We do not like to mingle with pop stars.

But he is also on loan to Swindon, so there is no movement.

[LDG]

Coldplay? They have shown they can play at the emirates. But people lack a bit patience. People say Coldplay, and you must say, but we already have Green Day who can play there. And do not forget Muse, who are very interesting.

[Özim]

Shocking defending and shocking jokes today.

So anyway I saw Arsene Wenger on the way to the bottle bank....

[IBK]

Like i said. Part 1 complete

Part 2 titled "we nearly got him" coming to computer screens near you this Xmas

Didn't Wenget get interviewed saying he was interested in Holtby 24h after the player had signed for Spurs? :doh:

[GP]

Didn't Wenget get interviewed saying he was interested in Holtby 24h after the player had signed for Spurs? :doh:

Not that I recall

[Cripps_orig]

Didn't Wenget get interviewed saying he was interested in Holtby 24h after the player had signed for Spurs? :doh:
I think it was just before they got him

[Injury Time]

Didn't Wenget get interviewed saying he was interested in Holtby 24h after the player had signed for Spurs? :doh:

Your post little bit a short of sharpness and accuracy but full of character and little bit a spirit.

[Özim]

I think it was just before they got him
His words:


"We have looked at Holtby, yes," said Wenger. "We have played against him, and our scouts are kept on alert and the quality of our scouting is linked with that."

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130104/wenger-admits-interest-schalke-star-188580

Sounds like the scouts fell asleep.

[IBK]

I worry that our scouting system is average these days.

[-Xs-]

I worry that our scouting system is average these days.

I think I've come to accept it. Pretty much everything about us is average these days, but that's what you get when you only ever target mediocrity.

[Gooner23]

I think I've come to accept it. Pretty much everything about us is average these days, but that's what you get when you only ever target mediocrity.

Wouldn't say everything, but a lot of things about the club are now below the high standards we expect.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Sometimes I wonder. . .its not even that our scouting system is necessarily shit. . .I mean we seem to be lonked with/have our eye on a lot of players that ultimately go to another club.

For example Holtby, now he may not have been a major miss (my words, which I was shot down for btw) but from what little I have seen of him, I know he is a damm sight better than Ramzi! so a miss.

Then there is Ba, maybe not everyones first choice but if you expect a stream of ballon d'or nominees to grace our team, you are in for a shock. Ba is a proven goalscorer, direct, who can score from anywhere and cheap. . .maybe not tge best proponent of tippy tap but feck that shit. . .we need winners

And that is where we fall short as a team/club. . .we lack the winners mentality both on ans off the field, we way we play is reflected in the way we do business. We are scared to take a pot at goal in the same way we waste so much time securing deals, so much so we are often beaten to the chase by one our rivals when it comes to signing a player.

We may go for Villa but Ba was ready to play, is younger and will cost less. Its tge same story time and time again. Cahill, Dempsey. . .Parker (some say they are shit but compared to what we have been putting out. . .)

We need to show a wonning mentality in everything we do

[GP]

Ba wasn't as cheap as you think.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Ba wasn't as cheap as you think.

But cheaper than Villa (who we are not going to get?) so who then? we loaned out Chamakh, Gerv is off (sigh of relief x2), if Walcott goes or gets injured we are left with Giroud and Pods who gets the nod as striker leaves a gap on the left, we are desperately shorthanded again. . .shit what was I thinking, I take it all back. . .we have Ramseu who dont forget can play there. . .

[GP]

But cheaper than Villa

Dunno, from what I've seen the costs are quite similar.

[Boss]

Two interesting pieces of news today:


07.30 GMT:Lewis Holtby's move from Schalke to Tottenham could be completed before the summer if the sides can agree on a transfer fee, reported to be in the region of £1.6 million. Horst Heldt, the Schalke sporting director, said: "If Tottenham ask for Holtby in the January window, we will talk to them about it. Nothing has happened yet, but, from our point of view, we are prepared to speak to them. It would have to be done quickly, because we would have to find a replacement for him."

and


08.20 GMT: Chelsea have agreed a deal to sign Metalist Kharkiv midfielder Taison, according to reports from Sky Sports.

Torres :wave:

[Injury Time]

Sometimes I wonder. . .its not even that our scouting system is necessarily shit. . .I mean we seem to be lonked with/have our eye on a lot of players that ultimately go to another club.

For example Holtby, now he may not have been a major miss (my words, which I was shot down for btw) but from what little I have seen of him, I know he is a damm sight better than Ramzi! so a miss.

Then there is Ba, maybe not everyones first choice but if you expect a stream of ballon d'or nominees to grace our team, you are in for a shock. Ba is a proven goalscorer, direct, who can score from anywhere and cheap. . .maybe not tge best proponent of tippy tap but feck that shit. . .we need winners

And that is where we fall short as a team/club. . .we lack the winners mentality both on ans off the field, we way we play is reflected in the way we do business. We are scared to take a pot at goal in the same way we waste so much time securing deals, so much so we are often beaten to the chase by one our rivals when it comes to signing a player.

We may go for Villa but Ba was ready to play, is younger and will cost less. Its tge same story time and time again. Cahill, Dempsey. . .Parker (some say they are shit but compared to what we have been putting out. . .)


We need to show a wonning mentality in everything we do

you're right little bit a lacking in wonning mentality.

[LDG]

http://twitter.com/BBCSporf/status/288023136836939778/photo/1


:haha:

[GP]

:o is that real?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

you're right little bit a lacking in wonning mentality.

So is your face

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://twitter.com/BBCSporf/status/288023136836939778/photo/1


:haha:

Who is Richard Banks?

[LDG]

Looks like James McCarthy is the next one on the agenda then :rolleyes:

[Joker]

http://metro.co.uk/2013/01/06/arsene-wenger-hails-arsenals-socialist-pay-structure-as-he-eyes-james-mccarthy-transfer-3339774/

If the "Socialism" applied to everything else we did as a club (i.e. lower ticket prices, lower wages for management) I'd understand it, but it seems we only have Socialism when it comes to players salaries.

[LDG]

He's not a Socialist. He's a muslim fundamentalist! :angry:

[Marc Overmars]

I don't think McCarthy is too bad but we already have Coq who I'd like to see get more games.

[LDG]

It's time to go big, or....fuck off, basically.

He needs to blow 50-60 million on some fucking awesome quality.

Enough is enough.

[Marc Overmars]

He'll stick to his middle range players who come in on budget.

[selassie]

I don't think McCarthy is too bad but we already have Coq who I'd like to see get more games.

He's a good player, an upgrade on "Ramsey", but what we really need now is star quality. McCarthy would undoubtedly be another "Project", one that won't necessarily need major development work...but right now I don't think he's good enough to start in our Midfield.

[GP]

If we don't get Falcao I'll punch Letters in the face and balls.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No formal offer has been made by Citeh for Napoli's Edison Cavena according to Bryan Swanson. :lol:

Also, Falcao is on his way I am sure.

[Gooner23]

If we don't get Messi I'll punch Wenger in his michelin man jacket.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

http://metro.co.uk/2013/01/06/arsene-wenger-hails-arsenals-socialist-pay-structure-as-he-eyes-james-mccarthy-transfer-3339774/

If the "Socialism" applied to everything else we did as a club (i.e. lower ticket prices, lower wages for management) I'd understand it, but it seems we only have Socialism when it comes to players salaries.

spot on. the man has banked £56m in the past 8 years. we've won nothing in that time. how can he justify his salary?

one rule for him and another for the rest.

[PGFC]

It's time to go big, or....fuck off, basically.

He needs to blow 50-60 million on some fucking awesome quality.

Enough is enough.

When Diaby comes back, it'll be like a new signing though surely.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

If we don't get Messi I'll punch Wenger in his michelin man jacket.

May need to help him with it first. . .

http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQC0USQFJFeBj02g&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FKp3p539C2f4%2 Fmqdefault.jpg&jq=100