January Transfers -- Speculation & Shit?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Tipy Tappy is not the problem its not having the players to do it ala Barca. Barca don't play fast counter Attacking, their not boring to watch. Problem is when you have mediocre players you can't play tipy tapy it won't work. and even so 3-4 years ago the stuff we played was ok, best in the country we were told. Just when you loose players and don't replace them the footie gets worse.

Im sorry but just because Aw says pass pass, does not mean some of these players can't use their brains and try something diffrent when needed.

I mean yesterday we did seem to lump the ball up a few times.

[jelgoon]

I heard that the board have accepted that we need a striker and have decided to splash the cash at last by bidding up to £50 million for Falcao in the transfer window.Kroenke will invest his own money to fund the player's wages. Exciting times ahead next year. Failing that, we are linked to an exciting 16 year old prospect playing for Barnet.

[fakeyank]

Tipy Tappy is not the problem its not having the players to do it ala Barca. Barca don't play fast counter Attacking, their not boring to watch. Problem is when you have mediocre players you can't play tipy tapy it won't work. and even so 3-4 years ago the stuff we played was ok, best in the country we were told. Just when you loose players and don't replace them the footie gets worse.

Im sorry but just because Aw says pass pass, does not mean some of these players can't use their brains and try something diffrent when needed.

I mean yesterday we did seem to lump the ball up a few times.

When you dont have players for tippy tappy, why even play it? Play to your players strengths! That is the most basic thing a football manager should know. And if I am a player and my retarded manager says pass pass, I will pass pass... AW coaches the directness out of players! I watch teams like Utd, City, Spurs, Madrid in awe... quick football and the aim is to score.. not fuck around the whole pitch achieving fuck all.

[Power n Glory]

When you dont have players for tippy tappy, why even play it? Play to your players strengths! That is the most basic thing a football manager should know. And if I am a player and my retarded manager says pass pass, I will pass pass... AW coaches the directness out of players! I watch teams like Utd, City, Spurs, Madrid in awe... quick football and the aim is to score.. not fuck around the whole pitch achieving fuck all.

Exactly. I was having the same discussion with my Chelsea mate yesterday. He believes that Di Matteo's success has proven how irrelevant managers are and it's all about having a great line up of players. If you have a superstar squad, the manager doesn't matter. But I disagree with that otherwise AVB and past Chelsea managers would have been successful too. I also pointed to Real Madrid in the Galatico days and we also have City under Mark Hughes.

It helps to have great players but it doesn't guarantee success. In AVB cases, he was trying to play champaign football with a high defensive line with that old and stiff Chelsea team. They weren't built to play that style and didn't have the right sort of players. AVB was trying to force a philosophy and style on to the wrong group of players. When Roberto Di Matteo took over, he scrapped all that and played to their strengths and went back to the basics which wasn't pretty. Now that he has the right sort or players, he's changed the style and the football is much prettier because he's able to do that now.

What pisses me off about Wenger is that he priortises philosophy and style over player strenghth and adaptability. He'll pick a 4-3-3 and play the same style regardless of the opposition and players we have available. That is why so many of our teams look toothless because he forces the style. Short and quick passing is always on the menu regardless. We don't have a bad squad and we should be able to make use of their individual strengths but we don't because Wenger always sets the team up to comply with his blinkered philosophy. He has no problem playing people out of position and doesn't even care how others are set to play against us. That's too much confidence in your own system and disregards the strengths of our players as well. It's pretty arrogant.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

You both make Valid and good points ans i can;t disagree with any.

@ FY


I watch teams like Utd, City, Spurs, Madrid in awe... quick football and the aim is to score.. not fuck around the whole pitch achieving fuck all.

Obviously its our aim to score, we want to win games and thinking we go out just to play pretty stuff its silly. Simple truth is those teams you mention have the quality to play that fast football we don't.

When we keep selling our best players and don't replace them it don't matter what system we play, we will always look terrible. We can't play 442 we don't have the players for that, 4411 maybe we could but i don't think we have the quality for that, so right now we can play 433 until we bring in better players.

No one seem to care about this Tippy Tappy football a few seasons ago i bet you were one of the ones who enjoyed it and where happy we played the best footie in the country.


He believes that Di Matteo's success has proven how irrelevant managers are and it's all about having a great line up of players. If you have a superstar squad, the manager doesn't matter. But I disagree with that otherwise AVB and past Chelsea managers would have been successful too. I also pointed to Real Madrid in the Galatico days and we also have City under Mark Hughes.

@PNG

Yes you need a good manager to managed a superstar squad, Which is where th likes of Jose etc come in, but the reason why chavs have done well is because they have players who are smart enough to make quick decisions regardless of what way they have been told by the manager. Problem with ours because they are beeen told to pass its all they do, the likes of henry etc uesed their brains and thats why they were good.

[Niall_Quinn]

Obviously its our aim to score

I'm not convinced it is, at least not for the 90 minute duration of the match. Seems to me much of our game is about wearing out the other team with pass, pass, pass, and then picking up the pace (or attempting to) later. Wenger is big on stats, yards run, efficiency. There's no spontaneity in our game, it is mechanical. Like a wannabe German machine but built from Chinese parts unfortunately. Our players just aren't as good as many make out. They may be able to score the odd flashy goal or pull the odd trick but they break down at the key moment, both mentally and in terms of the intelligent application of talent. Can't cross, can't shoot, can't head the ball, can't do any of the basic stuff with enough of that fabled efficiency to keep the other team under genuine pressure. For the opposition it must be like being battered by a feather duster. Irritating but hardly damaging. We give teams confidence by our style of play.

Dempsey, Drogba, some hard bastard in the middle, we could have brought plenty in to add that bit of steel where it is vitally needed - and we could have bought a number of reliable keepers over the past couple of seasons too. But there was probably some sort of statistical calculation that made Mannone and Giroud and Chamakh and Gervinho and Ramsey and Diaby and even the likes of Walcott theoretically suitable to do a job. Practically though we all see the reality. Pansies with big mouths, grand gestures but no consistent end product and over 38 games it's the consistency that will pay and the lack of it that will cost.

We should resort to hoofing the ball, we'd lose most of the possession in the final third as a result but we already do that. At least hoofing it would wake the opposition defenders up, right now they can read the newspaper and have a coffee while still batting away our forwards like irritating flies. Still, selling possibly the world's best striker and replacing him with a one season wonder from the lower leagues was never going to improve things. But even Giroud might get some joy if only we could "resort" to the style of play other teams find so successful, if only occasionally.

It's embarrassing to lose to Norwich, really embarrassing. But the worst bit is it's not unexpected and we'll lose a few more like this too. Having lazy, complacent, pampered, self important cocks on the pitch really doesn't help our cause. Even if Wenger is fucking them up with his stupid patterns and statistics they still should be able to pass a ball in the final third or put in a cross. What the fuck is wrong with them and why aren't they embarrassed about it along with the fans? They'll be in the papers next week telling everyone how we can win the title, just as they were before the Norwich fiasco. Cocks who don't do their job, that's what they are.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Dicking around with my stream at about the 55 minute mark caused it to die, but apparently we actually managed a shot on target in the second half.

I am chosing to think of this as 'like a trophy'.

[Niall_Quinn]

Dicking around with my stream at about the 55 minute mark caused it to die, but apparently we actually managed a shot on target in the second half.

I am chosing to think of this as 'like a trophy'.

Norwich are not capable of financial doping so therefore they must have been "well organised defensively." If it's not rich blokes buying up the best players it's the little clubs refusing to let us play the way we want.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Norwich are not capable of financial doping so therefore they must have been "well organised defensively." If it's not rich blokes buying up the best players it's the little clubs refusing to let us play the way we want.

You mean we didn't want to play like we couldn't be arsed?

[Niall_Quinn]

You mean we didn't want to play like we couldn't be arsed?

It may have appeared that way but a lot of the blame must fall on Norwich for playing defensively, apart from when they were playing offensively and particularly when we were trying to play offensively. If they had defended a lot less I believe we would have had a lot more success in the final third.

[LDG]

It may have appeared that way but a lot of the blame must fall on Norwich for playing defensively, apart from when they were playing offensively and particularly when we were trying to play offensively. If they had defended a lot less I believe we would have had a lot more success in the final third.

Can you be not good in attack, and Norwich be not good in defence. It is possible.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I'm not convinced it is, at least not for the 90 minute duration of the match. Seems to me much of our game is about wearing out the other team with pass, pass, pass, and then picking up the pace (or attempting to) later. Wenger is big on stats, yards run, efficiency. There's no spontaneity in our game, it is mechanical. Like a wannabe German machine but built from Chinese parts unfortunately. Our players just aren't as good as many make out. They may be able to score the odd flashy goal or pull the odd trick but they break down at the key moment, both mentally and in terms of the intelligent application of talent. Can't cross, can't shoot, can't head the ball, can't do any of the basic stuff with enough of that fabled efficiency to keep the other team under genuine pressure. For the opposition it must be like being battered by a feather duster. Irritating but hardly damaging. We give teams confidence by our style of play.

Dempsey, Drogba, some hard bastard in the middle, we could have brought plenty in to add that bit of steel where it is vitally needed - and we could have bought a number of reliable keepers over the past couple of seasons too. But there was probably some sort of statistical calculation that made Mannone and Giroud and Chamakh and Gervinho and Ramsey and Diaby and even the likes of Walcott theoretically suitable to do a job. Practically though we all see the reality. Pansies with big mouths, grand gestures but no consistent end product and over 38 games it's the consistency that will pay and the lack of it that will cost.

We should resort to hoofing the ball, we'd lose most of the possession in the final third as a result but we already do that. At least hoofing it would wake the opposition defenders up, right now they can read the newspaper and have a coffee while still batting away our forwards like irritating flies. Still, selling possibly the world's best striker and replacing him with a one season wonder from the lower leagues was never going to improve things. But even Giroud might get some joy if only we could "resort" to the style of play other teams find so successful, if only occasionally.

It's embarrassing to lose to Norwich, really embarrassing. But the worst bit is it's not unexpected and we'll lose a few more like this too. Having lazy, complacent, pampered, self important cocks on the pitch really doesn't help our cause. Even if Wenger is fucking them up with his stupid patterns and statistics they still should be able to pass a ball in the final third or put in a cross. What the fuck is wrong with them and why aren't they embarrassed about it along with the fans? They'll be in the papers next week telling everyone how we can win the title, just as they were before the Norwich fiasco. Cocks who don't do their job, that's what they are.

So your saying were happy to loose every game ?

[Niall_Quinn]

Can you be not good in attack, and Norwich be not good in defence. It is possible.

Ah yes, but everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife.

[Fist of Lehmann]

I don't! :oldboy:

[Niall_Quinn]

So your saying were happy to loose every game ?

No, I'm saying the players are cocks who don't do their job. And the manager seems obsessed by statistics. And I don't believe we do have a mentality and tactics that make scoring goals the priority for 90 minutes. And we should have bought some hard bastards to compete more vigorously in this league. And Giroud is no RvC. And we should fuck the stats out the window and adapt our style depending on who we are playing. And half our players are overrated. And even if Wenger is a problem he's not the whole problem, the players have to share the blame.

[LDG]

I don't! :oldboy:

People don't often like to be seen to agree on the internets. But on this occassion. I concur.

[Kano]

I don't! :oldboy:

being gay doesn't count.

[Niall_Quinn]

being gay doesn't count.

You discount his opinion because he is gay? What a fucking Nazi!

[Kano]

seems reasonable enough to me

plus i bet he's one of those coloureds or something too

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No, I'm saying the players are cocks who don't do their job. And the manager seems obsessed by statistics. And I don't believe we do have a mentality and tactics that make scoring goals the priority for 90 minutes. And we should have bought some hard bastards to compete more vigorously in this league. And Giroud is no RvC. And we should fuck the stats out the window and adapt our style depending on who we are playing. And half our players are overrated. And even if Wenger is a problem he's not the whole problem, the players have to share the blame.

True very true.

But so's your face :coffee:

[LDG]

True very true.

But so's your face :coffe:

:coffe: :bow:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Charlie's cousin :pal:

[Niall_Quinn]

seems reasonable enough to me

plus i bet he's one of those coloureds or something too

Yes, that's what I said. He's a fucking Nazi!

[Fist of Lehmann]

being gay, doesn't count.

More bullshit misconception.

Many gays are highly numerate.

[Syn]

:haha:

[Power n Glory]

No, I'm saying the players are cocks who don't do their job. And the manager seems obsessed by statistics. And I don't believe we do have a mentality and tactics that make scoring goals the priority for 90 minutes. And we should have bought some hard bastards to compete more vigorously in this league. And Giroud is no RvC. And we should fuck the stats out the window and adapt our style depending on who we are playing. And half our players are overrated. And even if Wenger is a problem he's not the whole problem, the players have to share the blame.



Yes you need a good manager to managed a superstar squad, Which is where th likes of Jose etc come in, but the reason why chavs have done well is because they have players who are smart enough to make quick decisions regardless of what way they have been told by the manager. Problem with ours because they are beeen told to pass its all they do, the likes of henry etc uesed their brains and thats why they were good.


The players have to take some of the blame but it still boils down to playing to our strengths and not forcing a philosophy. Example with Chelsea, AVB was trying to play a high defensive line with John Terry in their line up and with a midfield that weren't used to holding possession. Lampard, Meireles, and Ramires weren't the the type of midfield trio that hold possession and play the quick and short passing game. None are technical pass masters like we see with so many midget Spanish players. They weren't technical or mobile enough and just not built to play that style but they're not bad players as individuals. As for playing a high defensive line with Terry, no matter how hard Terry tries, he's not suited to play that way. He'll get outpaced every time if someone puts a sneaky ball past him. It's nothing to do with effort with that sort of thing just bad tactics with the wrong personnel. If the players were smart enough to sort their own game out, why couldn't they adjust when AVB was manager?

Every player has their strengths and weaknesses and it's up to the manager to play them where they'll be most effective. With most skilled professions where you have to manage people or work with tools, you should be able to pick the right tool/person for the job. You wouldn't use a sledgehammer to fix a a picture frame to a living room wall. If you ran a business, you wouldn't pick the guy with the worst grade in math to do the accounting. It's just common sense.

For starters, Ramsey shouldn't be on the pitch because he provides nothing on defence or attack and we had better option on the bench. We'd have been better off playing Arshavin further up field playing attacking midfield and letting Cazorla drop further back to control the game with Arteta because that's what he was effectively doing on Saturday anyway.

Besides Ramsey, we have the issue with Poldoski who isn't a winger, he's a second striker. I have no idea why Wenger has gone against his own traditions and moved away from using a creative player on the left. Even though I don't necessarily agree with him playing Nasri, Arshavin types on the wing, and would prefer out and out wingers with pace, I can see that he's trying to create another Pires type winger. But Poldoski doesn't fit either category and looks like a fish out of water at the moment. Very anonymous but he's a damn good player with good movement and a good striker of the ball. He needs to be in and around the box. I notice that he's able to drift in and out of position from time to time but he hardly touches the ball when he does that. It needs sorting.

As for Giroud...he's not a creative striker, he has no pace he's very much a traditional old school striker....and he's out of form. He was isolated and starved of service on Saturday. I just don't see how he's going to flourish with this style of play if we don't have a player like Cazorla playing further up field pulling strings. Wenger has to look at that and see how we're going to feed him the ball and we're going to suffer if we continue to Polodoski out wide and unpredictable Gervinho.

The result may come as a shock to some but let's not forget that we drew our first two games and looked blunt against Sunderland and Stoke. If Wenger continues playing the same squad against similar opposition that are happy to come away with a point against us, we're always going to struggle. Some players are just rubbish and shouldn't be playing but we have plenty of good options on the bench and we need to be able to adjust tactics. But I agree with Wenger's stat obsession and he probably believed the opposition would tire and the goal would come. He probably told the guys to stay patient and just move the ball quicker. That is what he drums into them all the time and we've seen him lose his rag when someone hoofs it up or keeps playing high risk passes that cost us possession.

[Niall_Quinn]

Podolski has already showed where he's strongest, composure in the final third and at the heart of the action. Yes, playing him wide seems like crazy stuff but maybe he's 13.783% more efficient in the defensive role when played there and would only give us an extra 11.926% benefit if played more centrally. Or maybe he runs 13.76 more atomically calibrated metres per match than any other player when played 4.36 metres wider. I think the fact it's not working shouldn't necessarily invalidate the theory. Also Gervinho losing the ball 99.938% of the time no matter where he is on the pitch must be offset against the fact he confuses the fuck out of everyone 100% of the time, so that's a 0.062% edge and razor margins like that can make the difference at the very top (which is where we aren't, but even so).

We play percentages at everything. Finances, signings, team selection, tactics. And 60% of the time it pays off. That 60% is enough to drive the share price 20% each year and returns CL footie 100% of the time. If only people could find the fundamental entertainment value in these facts and figures then we'd all be happy.

I think after the Norwich performance it's 100% certain that nothing has been learned.

[Power n Glory]

:lol: :gp:

[Newguy]

Podolski has already showed where he's strongest, composure in the final third and at the heart of the action. Yes, playing him wide seems like crazy stuff but maybe he's 13.783% more efficient in the defensive role when played there and would only give us an extra 11.926% benefit if played more centrally. Or maybe he runs 13.76 more atomically calibrated metres per match than any other player when played 4.36 metres wider. I think the fact it's not working shouldn't necessarily invalidate the theory. Also Gervinho losing the ball 99.938% of the time no matter where he is on the pitch must be offset against the fact he confuses the fuck out of everyone 100% of the time, so that's a 0.062% edge and razor margins like that can make the difference at the very top (which is where we aren't, but even so).

We play percentages at everything. Finances, signings, team selection, tactics. And 60% of the time it pays off. That 60% is enough to drive the share price 20% each year and returns CL footie 100% of the time. If only people could find the fundamental entertainment value in these facts and figures then we'd all be happy.

I think after the Norwich performance it's 100% certain that nothing has been learned.

I see what you've done there lol

[Syn]

Podolski has already showed where he's strongest, composure in the final third and at the heart of the action. Yes, playing him wide seems like crazy stuff but maybe he's 13.783% more efficient in the defensive role when played there and would only give us an extra 11.926% benefit if played more centrally. Or maybe he runs 13.76 more atomically calibrated metres per match than any other player when played 4.36 metres wider. I think the fact it's not working shouldn't necessarily invalidate the theory. Also Gervinho losing the ball 99.938% of the time no matter where he is on the pitch must be offset against the fact he confuses the fuck out of everyone 100% of the time, so that's a 0.062% edge and razor margins like that can make the difference at the very top (which is where we aren't, but even so).

We play percentages at everything. Finances, signings, team selection, tactics. And 60% of the time it pays off. That 60% is enough to drive the share price 20% each year and returns CL footie 100% of the time. If only people could find the fundamental entertainment value in these facts and figures then we'd all be happy.

I think after the Norwich performance it's 100% certain that nothing has been learned.

You need a bigger platform. Start a blog where you can moan your tits off. And then spam the fuck out of twitter.

[Niall_Quinn]

You need a bigger platform. Start a blog where you can moan your tits off. And then spam the fuck out of twitter.

There is no bigger platform than GW. 99% of people know that.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Podolski has already showed where he's strongest, composure in the final third and at the heart of the action. Yes, playing him wide seems like crazy stuff but maybe he's 13.783% more efficient in the defensive role when played there and would only give us an extra 11.926% benefit if played more centrally. Or maybe he runs 13.76 more atomically calibrated metres per match than any other player when played 4.36 metres wider. I think the fact it's not working shouldn't necessarily invalidate the theory. Also Gervinho losing the ball 99.938% of the time no matter where he is on the pitch must be offset against the fact he confuses the fuck out of everyone 100% of the time, so that's a 0.062% edge and razor margins like that can make the difference at the very top (which is where we aren't, but even so).

We play percentages at everything. Finances, signings, team selection, tactics. And 60% of the time it pays off. That 60% is enough to drive the share price 20% each year and returns CL footie 100% of the time. If only people could find the fundamental entertainment value in these facts and figures then we'd all be happy.

I think after the Norwich performance it's 100% certain that nothing has been learned.

:haha:

Your a moody git at times, Though i know i;m guranteed a good laugh.

[fakeyank]

Podolski has already showed where he's strongest, composure in the final third and at the heart of the action. Yes, playing him wide seems like crazy stuff but maybe he's 13.783% more efficient in the defensive role when played there and would only give us an extra 11.926% benefit if played more centrally. Or maybe he runs 13.76 more atomically calibrated metres per match than any other player when played 4.36 metres wider. I think the fact it's not working shouldn't necessarily invalidate the theory. Also Gervinho losing the ball 99.938% of the time no matter where he is on the pitch must be offset against the fact he confuses the fuck out of everyone 100% of the time, so that's a 0.062% edge and razor margins like that can make the difference at the very top (which is where we aren't, but even so).

We play percentages at everything. Finances, signings, team selection, tactics. And 60% of the time it pays off. That 60% is enough to drive the share price 20% each year and returns CL footie 100% of the time. If only people could find the fundamental entertainment value in these facts and figures then we'd all be happy.

I think after the Norwich performance it's 100% certain that nothing has been learned.

:haha: :gp:

[milla]

Podolski has already showed where he's strongest, composure in the final third and at the heart of the action. Yes, playing him wide seems like crazy stuff but maybe he's 13.783% more efficient in the defensive role when played there and would only give us an extra 11.926% benefit if played more centrally. Or maybe he runs 13.76 more atomically calibrated metres per match than any other player when played 4.36 metres wider. I think the fact it's not working shouldn't necessarily invalidate the theory. Also Gervinho losing the ball 99.938% of the time no matter where he is on the pitch must be offset against the fact he confuses the fuck out of everyone 100% of the time, so that's a 0.062% edge and razor margins like that can make the difference at the very top (which is where we aren't, but even so).

We play percentages at everything. Finances, signings, team selection, tactics. And 60% of the time it pays off. That 60% is enough to drive the share price 20% each year and returns CL footie 100% of the time. If only people could find the fundamental entertainment value in these facts and figures then we'd all be happy.

I think after the Norwich performance it's 100% certain that nothing has been learned.

:haha:

2% away from being perfect post, just missing a little ****ness :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Juventus are set to beat Arsenal to the signature of Atletico Madrid striker Fernando Llorente, 27, and then try to sign Gunners forward Theo Walcott, 23.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal are planning to put winger Serge Gnabry, 17, into the first-team set-up should midfielder Theo Walcott, 23, leave the club in January.
Full story: London Evening Standard

Atletico Madrid? :lol:

Wtf? We need to buy a replacement. Not promote someone from the failed youth project

[Niall_Quinn]

should midfielder Theo Walcott, 23, leave the club in January

Should? Theo whining on about money and where he plays, Wenger leaving him on the bench. Anyway, Athletico Madrid can go and do one, they'll never have a balance sheet as glorious as ours!

[Power n Glory]

Should? Theo whining on about money and where he plays, Wenger leaving him on the bench. Anyway, Athletico Madrid can go and do one, they'll never have a balance sheet as glorious as ours!

You have to admit, Theo made the difference for us when coming on against West Ham because we were struggling in that game. I wasn't surprised at all about our performance against Norwich because our bad performances usually carry over to the next game.

[Cripps_orig]

You have to admit, Theo made the difference for us when coming on against West Ham because we were struggling in that game. I wasn't surprised at all about our performance against Norwich because our bad performances usually carry over to the next game.

:lol:

Remember who you are replying to

[Niall_Quinn]

You have to admit, Theo made the difference for us when coming on against West Ham because we were struggling in that game. I wasn't surprised at all about our performance against Norwich because our bad performances usually carry over to the next game.

He's made a difference a few times, but that won't stop him being next out the door and that won't stop our lot letting him go either. A cynic might suggest there's a pattern to these departures and they are taking place in a sequence that makes a lot of sense. If the trend continues Jack leaves in 2015. The 2014 departure is a bit of a riddle right now though. Cazorla to pass through on a fast track?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

There you go. . .wrists now bleeding profusely. . just hope can use the same razor to slice through my larynx

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:lol:

Remember who you are replying to

Its a disgrace the way NQ is treated on here.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Atletico Madrid? :lol:

Wtf? We need to buy a replacement. Not promote someone from the failed youth project

John cross :haha:


Not promote someone from the failed youth project

He had nothing to do with project youth, was bought well after.

[Niall_Quinn]

Its a disgrace the way NQ is treated on here.

Not really, he's a **** that deserves all he gets.

[Cripps_orig]

Newcastle United have joined Arsenal and Manchester City in the race to sign PSV Eindhoven wonderkid Riechedly Bazoer.
But PSV sporting director Marcel Brands has urged the 16-year-old central defender to choose first-team prospects over money.

Bazoer, who is regarded as the jewel of the Dutch club’s prolific youth system, has been offered a three-year professional contract by PSV after turning 16 last week.

However, it can be revealed that the Holland Under-17 international is also considering offers from clubs in Spain and Italy as well as the three leading Premier League outfits.

Speaking to Goal.com, Brands said: “We have offered him a professional contract now he has turned 16. I speak with the family, the boy and his agents. We hope we will get an answer soon.

“What is his intention? Is it to develop or go for bigger money in England? You have to ask him and his agent which clubs are interested in him. I don’t know and it doesn’t matter.

“It is his choice and the agent will do their best for the player. The only thing we can do is offer him good possibilities in terms of coaching and prospects.”

Dutch rules prevent clubs in the country from offering contracts longer than three years for players under the age of 18 and Fifa rules stipulate that the maximum compensation fee payable for transfers involving academy players is €364,000 (£296,000).

Asked if it is possible for PSV to compete with richer clubs in England, Spain and Italy, Brands said: “No, no, not at all. Nobody can. It’s not a financial thing, anyway. It’s important what is possible in a sporting way.

“It’s difficult in England to reach the first team of the big clubs after joining out of the youth academy. A lot of young players from Holland went to England and have not yet played in the first team. Many of them ended up being loaned out to other clubs. The players who were successful in England came later, like [Edwin] van der Sar, [Jaap] Stam and [Dennis] Bergkamp.

“PSV are delivering a lot of young players for the European market in Spain, England and Italy. It is difficult to compete with those kinds of clubs.

“The only special thing we have is that a lot of young players play in the league in Holland. Last year we had an 18-year-old for the national team (Jetro Williams) playing at left-back.”

Bazoer is regarded as the defensive star in PSV’s prolific youth system, which lost Andreas Pereira to Manchester United last year.

He made his debut for Holland Under-17s as a 15-year-old in March and played in all five matches for the team that went on to win the European Under-17 championships in the summer.

Brands said: “He is one of the talented players in our youth academy. He is a central defender, although not a typical central defender. He is not tall and plays football like the way we do in Holland. He is very comfortable on the ball and reads the game well.”

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/10/24/3472345/newcastle-join-arsenal-and-manchester-city-in-race-to-sign

Cant be any worse than Kos

Must Get

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

players out of contract next summer:

llorente
huntelaar
moussa sissoko
kuzmanov
holtby
mbiwa
honda
vargas

:pray:

[Marc Overmars]

Llorente and Holtby plz.

[Kano]

lol

[Cripps_orig]

Get the hunter

[jelgoon]

Why must we get him exactly? Oh yeh - so when we dont win anything again PHW and Wenger can say we are building for the future and have a great young squad. I forgot.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/10/24/3472345/newcastle-join-arsenal-and-manchester-city-in-race-to-sign

Cant be any worse than Kos

Must Get

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Get the hunter

http://royalrumbler.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/hhh.jpg

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Not really, he's a **** that deserves all he gets.

:gp: you must be new round here?

[Niall_Quinn]

:gp: you must be new round here?

I'm his long suffering cousin.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I'm his long suffering cousin.

NQ's cousin :bow:

So which one of you is it that Ach think he tears a new one to?

[AKBapologist]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9636959/Chelsea-on-high-alert-as-former-Barcelona-coach-Pep-Guardiola-eyes-job-managing-a-London-club.html

[Olivier's xmas twist]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9636959/Chelsea-on-high-alert-as-former-Barcelona-coach-Pep-Guardiola-eyes-job-managing-a-London-club.html

Fulham :bow:

[Jimmy Valmer]

He has better hair too.

Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

Yes

[Cripps_orig]

NQ's cousin :bow:

So which one of you is it that Ach think he tears a new one to?

Um what?

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger wants to sign Newcastle United winger Hatem Ben Arfa, 25, as he resigns himself to losing Theo Walcott in January.
Full story: caughtoffside.com (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/10/27/arsenal-identify-newcastle-united-winger-as-ideal-replacement-for-exit-bound-walcott/)

Good player

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Um what?

Well you seem to think, you tear NQ a new one, everytime he grills you over Theo.

[milla]

Good player

Will only happen if Arfa is out of contract or straight swap with Theo. Unlike Arsenal, Newcastle is not desperate to sell their best players. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Will only happen if Arfa is out of contract or straight swap with Theo. Unlike Arsenal, Newcastle is not desperate to sell their best players. :coffee:

Depends if the player wants to go.

[selassie]

Good player

Will never happen, we'll probably make a lowball bid and then walk away.

[Cripps_orig]

Manchester United and Arsenal are both keen to recruit Crewe's 18-year-old striker Max Clayton.
Full story: Metro

Mancs can have him

[hobson's choice]

Depends if the player wants to go.

They still ain't gonna sell for cheap, this is a different Newcastle

[Olivier's xmas twist]

They still ain't gonna sell for cheap, this is a different Newcastle

Oh no they won't but players are ****s these days we know that 1st hand. Not saying it will happen. He may want to stay there. If this is true and it turned his head, knowing he could play CL footie again he may kick up a fuss, till they let him join.

Though if we should get anyone from them it should be Ba.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

players out of contract next summer:

llorente
huntelaar
holtby
honda



:pray:

holtby and any of these 2 strikers would do(get those pre contracts signed)

[Grebbo]

Striker and Goalkeeper are a must. If we don't sign a top striker then 4th is going to be even tighter than last season.

[Niall_Quinn]

January business will be the sale of Walcott. Nobody will be coming in because top, top, top quality players will not be available and PHW has a massive tab to pay off at his local gay bar.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are interested in adding Bayer Leverkusen striker Andre Schurrle to their squad in January. The 21-year-old forward is one of three Bundesliga targets with Schalke midfielder Lewis Holtby, 22, and Hamburg striker Heung-Min Son, 20, also possible purchases.
Full story: CaughtOffside

Wouldnt mind Holtby

The other 2 can fuck off

[Özil's Panoramic View]

January business will be the sale of Walcott. Nobody will be coming in because top, top, top quality players will not be available and PHW has a massive tab to pay off at his local gay bar.

:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

LIVERPOOL want to sign Arsenal’s Theo Walcott in January.
Kop boss Brendan Rodgers is willing to pay the England star £100,000-a-week AND play him in the central striking role he prefers.
Liverpool reckon they could land Walcott for just £8million as the unsettled 23-year-old is out of contract next summer.
But Rodgers needs Walcott to resist growing Arsenal pressure to sign a new deal before Christmas.
An Anfield source said: “Theo Walcott and Liverpool would be a perfect fit.
“It’s no secret we are looking for a striker to play with Luis Suarez and Fabio Borini.
“Theo ticks all the right boxes. He is young, he is fast and he has great skills.”
Arsene Wenger yesterday slapped a Christmas deadline on talks with Walcott.
The Arsenal boss said: “There is urgency. We want to sort it out before Christmas, one way or the other.”
So far, though, Arsenal have offered Walcott £75,000-a- week — significantly less than Liverpool have on the table.
Rodgers is also desperate to get Joe Cole’s £120,000-a- week wages off the payroll and will look to sell Jose Enrique and Stewart Downing.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4622585/Liverpool-want-to-sign-Arsenals-Theo-Walcott-in-January.html#ixzz2B1OaxQic

Cheeky bid for Jose Enrique?

We need a left back

[Cripps_orig]

ARSENAL are lining up a move for Croatia Under-17 star Ante Roguljic.
Emirates boss Arsene Wenger is ready to pay £1.5million for the attacking midfielder, 16, who plays at NK Adriatic Split.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4622489/Arsenal-chase-Croatia-Under-17-star-Ante-Roguljic.html#ixzz2B1QwUHld

yay

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Cheeky bid for Jose Enrique?

We need a left back

Desperate to get rid of Cole and Downing, eh? I guess Rodgers isn't really the mong he's being made out to be after all.

Theo's gone btw

[Niall_Quinn]

Joe Cole’s £120,000-a- week wages

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Football is really, really stupid.

[server too busy!]

Didn't we almost sign Cole, dodged a bullet there!

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

£120k a week? :lol:

That has also gone up dramatically from the figures last season. Like Carroll's supposed £100k+ a week wages which have supposedly gone up by about £40k in a few months. Unless they're all getting ridiculous pay rises I'd take those with a pinch of salt.

But we are on a bit of a wage purge so I imagine Cole would be high up on the list to leave. And you most definitely dodged a bullet.

Rodgers has questioned both Enrique and Downing in the past as both have been poor, but I can't see him selling Enrique unless he plans on putting Johnson there permanently. And tbf he has done well there. Downing I can see going if not in January then in the summer.

I can only assume we'd be all to happy to have Walcott though.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Football is really, really stupid.

Pretty much, seems were not the only club to pay stupid wages to bit part players.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal will make a £9m move for Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha, 19, in January even though the Championship club's chairman Steve Parish has publicly insisted it would require a £20m offer to part with their Ivory Coast-born forward.
Full story: Daily Mail

No thanks

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Former Arsenal star Mikael Silvestre believes Jack Wilshere's return to fitness can help end the club's long wait for a trophy in the Capital One Cup.

Full story: talkSPORT

Some Arsenal fans chanted abuse at the club's chief executive, Ivan Gazidis, after watching Van Persie open the scoring for Manchester United at Old Trafford on Saturday.

Full story: Mail on Sunday


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/gossip/

[Cripps_orig]

MANCHESTER UNITED and Arsenal face a struggle to sign German star Lars Bender.
Both clubs are planning moves for the £20million-rated Bayer Leverkusen midfielder.
But director Wolfgang Holzhauser insisted: “We won’t sell anyone.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4625703/Lars-Bender-transfer-Arsenal-and-Man-Utd-want-German-ace.html#ixzz2BDWJJypB

Germans :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Isn't Sven the better Bender?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Isn't Sven the better Bender?

If he is the one who plays for Dortmund then yes.

[Cripps_orig]

Dont think we should get either tbh

Gooners still have nightmares over certain Arsenal players whose surname begins with Bend and ends with er

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Dont think we should get either tbh

Gooners still have nightmares over certain Arsenal players whose surname begins with Bend and ends with er

Yeah but we love Germans.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are preparing to put in a January bid for Lyon's French international midfielder Yoann Gourcuff, 26, after failing to sign him last year.
Full story: Metro

Arsene Wenger is looking for answers from the club's Brazilian defender Andre Santos after he swapped shirts at half-time in Saturday's game at Old Trafford with Manchester United striker Robin van Persie. Santos was caught on TV taking Van Persie's top as he and the former Arsenal striker walked towards the tunnel at the break and Wenger was left stunned when the Brazilian strolled into the dressing room with the shirt over his shoulder.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Gourcuff has been a bit shit for a while now. Looks like hes coming

FFS, expect Santos to be given a new £70k a week 4 year contract

[Niall_Quinn]

Gourcuff again. He'll be 90 when we eventually sign him.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Gourcuff has been a bit shit for a while now. Looks like hes coming

FFS, expect Santos to be given a new £70k a week 4 year contract

Nah Santos is done.

[jelgoon]

Im not sure he's coming just cos the Daily Mirror says we are going to revive our interest in him. We've been after him for ages. Anyway he'd be mad to join us in January if he want to play in the CL next season,


Gourcuff has been a bit shit for a while now. Looks like hes coming

FFS, expect Santos to be given a new £70k a week 4 year contract

[Kano]

that transfer window bollocks is slowly building again isn't it? fuck me if i can take another month full of absolute shite not just from arsenal but the media and every knobhead spreading rumours.

reading an article about that liverpool blog guy duncan jenkins, other 'famous' twitter accounts were mentioned that held thousands of followers only to come clean they were kids making absolutely everything up. yet what will that change this time round? fuck all. just a bunch of new accounts and jokers that will evolve into the next bunch of kents.

[Cripps_orig]

that transfer window bollocks is slowly building again isn't it? fuck me if i can take another month full of absolute shite not just from arsenal but the media and every knobhead spreading rumours.


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2011/8/31/1314809145936/Jim-White-Sky-Sports-News-007.jpg

[Cripps_orig]

reading an article about that liverpool blog guy duncan jenkins, other 'famous' twitter accounts were mentioned that held thousands of followers only to come clean they were kids making absolutely everything up. yet what will that change this time round? fuck all. just a bunch of new accounts and jokers that will evolve into the next bunch of kents.

People who believe shit on Twitter are just as sad as the ****s who make the shit up

Doubt there are many if any famous people on that shite

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Arsenal are set to take advantage of Malaga’s precarious financial situation with another swoop for one of their players at a bargain price.

The Gunners took Santi Cazorla to Emirates Stadium for around €15m (approximately£12.5m) in the summer - a price that Malaga’s manager Manuel Pellegrini later grumbled was an “unacceptable gift.”

“The owners chose the wrong model in selling the club’s best players,” Pellegrini told Gazzetta dello Sport.

“Selling Cazorla for €15 million was a gift and unacceptable. He played a vital role in helping us to the Champions League.”

However, Malaga’s problems with money have reared their ugly head again, with a meeting held to discuss unpaid wages to Pellegrini and his players.

Arsenal have had well documented troubles at left back this season, and it would appear Arsene Wenger has his eye on Spain international Nacho Monreal to offer assistance in that position.

As impressive as Kieran Gibbs has been when selected, he continues to be plagued by injury - which then leaves Andre Santos as the next option.

Santos has often appeared unfit and defensively lax, and having Monreal at the Emirates Stadium would bring Arsenal real competition in the left back position.
http://blog.fanatix.com/post/34967491975/arsenal-malaga-bargain-buy-spain-international-deal

Not sure who is he, but anything is better then Santos.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

People who believe shit on Twitter are just as sad as the ****s who make the shit up

Doubt there are many if any famous people on that shite

AFC Camdem :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Get Isco from there ffs

He has a Minimum release clause of £17m

Far better than any of our current CMs

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Get Isco from there ffs

He has a Minimum release clause of £17m

Far better than any of our current CMs

Very true, very true.

[Kano]

Picture of a kent
that picture is more offence than any swear word.

[jelgoon]

Well he's going to go,thats for sure. He was moaning long before our recent shit form. I guess its more likely to be in the summer
Indeed, it won't happen.

[jelgoon]

Ginola reckons he's the best French player of his generation.

Ginola has never been more sure of anything since he chose his perfect hairspray a few years back.

Gourcuff has been a bit shit for a while now. Looks like hes coming

FFS, expect Santos to be given a new £70k a week 4 year contract

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

ginola :lol:

most pointless ponytail ever :haha:

even worse than petit's :bow:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Nah Santos gets done every fucking week

:good:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Get Isco from there ffs

He has a Minimum release clause of £17m

Far better than any of our current CMs

Isco would be a decent shout, know nothing about their LB but Santos=:doh:


But nothing will probably happen as TT sats transfer bollocks rumour season is just around the corner

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:good:

Pretty Much. :gp:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Gourcuff again. He'll be 90 when we eventually sign him.

Seems to Always be 26 when they link him with us, so he actually may be 90.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Arsenal forward Andrey Arshavin is one of a number of players being considered by Reading ahead of the winter transfer window.

The Royals have made a slow start to life back in the Premier League and are still awaiting their first win of the season.

No-one at the Madejski Stadium was under any illusions as to how difficult the 2012/13 campaign was going to be, but they appreciate that there is plenty of room for improvement.

The opening of the January window will allow them to dip back into the market and bring in players that could play a significant role in their efforts to preserve their top-flight status.

Owner Anton Zingarevich will be the man in charge of the purse strings, and he will be making money available.

He admits to having already drawn up a list of possible targets, with Arshavin among those to have caught his eye.

The Russia international has endured a frustrating time at the Emirates of late and could be tempted to make a fresh start at a club that can promise him regular first-team football.

Zingarevich told Spb.jp.ru: "Arshavin is interesting for Reading.

"But he is one of 10 players that we are interested in."


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8221214/Reading-owner-Anton-Zingarevich-admits-to-holding-an-interest-in-Andrey-Arshavin

[IBK]

We won't buy anyone who is good enough. :coffee:

[LDG]

We won't buy anyone who is good enough. :coffee:

Doesn't matter who we buy.

If we bought Falcao, he'd be played at left back.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Doesn't matter who we buy.

If we bought Falcao, he'd be played at left back.

:lol:

[dazthegooner]

Doesn't matter who we buy.

If we bought Falcao, he'd be played at left back.

Well he would be a better option than Santos...

[selassie]

We'll sell Theo to one of our rivals and then probably buy Zaha off Palace.

We're going to have a real problem shifting the junk such as Chamakh, Squillaci et al, oh what a mess!

[Gervinho's Forehead]

We'll sell Theo to one of our rivals and then probably buy Zaha off Palace.

We're going to have a real problem shifting the junk such as Chamakh, Squillaci et al, oh what a mess!

I don't see Zaha as a player that Wenger would buy, I think he's more of liverhoof prospect.

Bolasie on the otherhand, could be one that interests Wenger.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I don't see Zaha as a player that Wenger would buy, I think he's more of liverhoof prospect.

He'd more likely buy Saha :haha:

[Bergkampwonderland10]

lol - Zaha looks an excellent player- seen a bit of him now and he definitely has something special. He wont come cheap but 15million on AOC seems and ok investment so long as he is isn't nullified by our crappy tactics.

He'd more likely buy Saha :haha:

[selassie]

He'd more likely buy Saha :haha:

Sad thing is that's actually true!

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Even fecking worse is the BS in the papers today about Taarbat

[Kano]

we'll go for zaha.

a solid english investment that can be sold for double in about 4/5 years.

[Master Splinter]

a solid english investment that can be sold for double in about 4/5 years.

How much are you expecting we'll get for Jenkinson?

[Kano]

i'll fucking cut you if you ever ask me that question again

[LDG]

:haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

We should buy Messi and play him in the centre of defence.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We should buy Messi and play him in the centre of defence.

He'd still be our top scorer.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Even fecking worse is the BS in the papers today about Taarbat

Yep, like we'd want some spus reject.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lancashire Telegraph says that we will be trying for Charlie Austin (Burnley) in January. 20 goals already for him this season. :bow:

I'll take it with a pinch of salt given it says other interested clubs are "Liverpool, Villa and Reading among others, as well as Newcastle United". :lol:

[GP]

Yep, like we'd want some spuf reject.

Spufs :bow:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Spufs :bow:

:haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Willian showed why he is a precious talent proving to be a thorn for Chelsea in the Champions League clash at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday.

Willian has made no secret of the fact that he wants to play in the Premier League and will have alerted Manchester United and Arsenal about his worth with a masterful display against Chelsea.

Shakhtar had looked the better team for long periods with midfielder Willian, who is not currently in the Brazil squad, running the match with an inspired performance that has made him a target for several Premier League clubs - including Chelsea.

He scored both of Shakhtar's goals and left Chelsea's players trailing in his wake, trying to take the ball off him as he ran the game.

However, Victor Moses' goal enabled Chelsea to draw level with Shakhtar on seven points in Group E, giving them a one-point advantage over third-placed Juventus ahead of what looks set to be a decisive showdown in Turin on November 20.

The 24-year-old Brazilian playmaker is one of the hottest properties in football and has been linked with moves to both Chelsea and Tottenham in recent months.

"I would like to move from Shakhtar, my work here is complete," he said after Shakhtar defeated Chelsea last month. He was holding a Chelsea shirt as he said it.

The Ukrainian club twice turned down bids from the Blues for Willian Borges da Silva much to the player's disappointment.

"Regardless of the price, it is clear that the desire is great to play at a club like Chelsea, the champions of the Champions League," he told Globo Esporte.

"I'm really upset with the board for not letting me leave. It would be good for me and also for the club."

Shakhtar chief executive Sergei Palkin revealed in January that the side then coached by Andre Villas-Boas had seen a £16.5m offer refused.

Willian has won four league titles, three domestic cups and a Uefa Cup since his arrival as a hugely promising Brazil youth international but wants to realise his dream of playing for Brazil in the 2014 World Cup.

"My dream is to play with the Selecao at the World Cup in Brazil and I will have more chances to realise the dream if I play for a big team," he said.

He added: "I would like to play in a big team in a big tournament, like the Premier League or Serie A," the player said.

"I like Chelsea, Milan and Inter," said Willian revealing his prefences.

However, his Shahktar team mate Eduardo favours him moving to England.

Eduardo, who spent three years with Arsenal, believes Spurs are not good enough for Willian.

"There are three clubs who are big enough and good enough for Willian - Arsenal, Man United and Chelsea," he said.

"I have recommended these clubs - no others. He needs to play at one of the best teams.

"Willian is a complete player now. He is ready to play for a big club and become a really big player.

"He should play at a top, top club because he is a class player. He can play in England, for sure.

"We always talk and watch Premier League games together.

"He asks me about England and the English game and I tell him little things."


http://www.emirates247.com/sports/football/willian-to-chelsea-arsenal-and-man-united-come-and-get-me-2012-11-08-1.482144

Eduardo :bow:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Inter Milan are ready to pounce for Arsenal right-back Bacary Sagna, 29, next summer.

Full story: Daily Mirror


Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City have all reportedly made offers for PSV Eindhoven defender Riechedly Bazoer, 16.


Arsenal have joined the list of clubs monitoring Burnley's 23-year-old striker Charlie Austin.

Full story: Daily Mail

The Gunners are also running the rule over PSV and Netherlands left-back Jetro Willems, 18.

Full story: Caughtoffside

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/gossip/

[Cripps_orig]

Inter Milan are ready to pounce for Arsenal right-back Bacary Sagna, 29, next summer.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City have all reportedly made offers for PSV Eindhoven defender Riechedly Bazoer, 16.
Full story: Metro

Arsenal have joined the list of clubs monitoring Burnley's 23-year-old striker Charlie Austin.
Full story: Daily Mail

The Gunners are also running the rule over PSV and Netherlands left-back Jetro Willems, 18.
Full story: Caughtoffside

Fulham boss Martin Jol has told Arsenal fans it is no longer realistic for them to expect a regular haul of silverware, adding that Arsene Wenger's men were not competing on a par with Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea.
Full story: the Sun

Sagnas gone

No thanks

Who?

Wouldnt mind

Manc Clubs and Chelsea have f all to do with us being shit

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.emirates247.com/sports/football/willian-to-chelsea-arsenal-and-man-united-come-and-get-me-2012-11-08-1.482144

Eduardo :bow:

Shakhtar did not look bad at all. . .love a Brazil nut dont they?

When you think about it. . .Eduardo would have done these days!

[Özim]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/gossip/
Was that Willems guy the guy that was awful for Holland in the summer, the guy who can't defend?

Would make perfect sense for us to sign him.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Was that Willems guy the guy that was awful for Holland in the summer, the guy who can't defend?

Would make perfect sense for us to sign him.

You mean the player who made is international Debut at the age of 18. in a big tornarment, not proving to be the best shocker.

Mind you holland were bad anyways. Even your precious huntelaar was woeful at the euro's.

[Cripps_orig]

I liked Willems tbh

As for Huntelaar, a bit harsh. He hardly played cos the Dutch manager wanted to play an inferior **** instead

Hunters scored wherever hes been.

Must Get

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I liked Willems tbh

As for Huntelaar, a bit harsh. He hardly played cos the Dutch manager wanted to play an inferior **** instead

Hunters scored wherever hes been.

Must Get

Thats why i say they were all Awful, even Robin van **** face. I don't think its fair to pick on a kid, who only had his debut and was not helped by the rest of the team and other senior players being poor.

Or RVP being a **** in the dressing room disrupting things.

Don't know about this kid, but has to be better LB then we have. so why not.

[fakeyank]

Thats why i say they were all Awful, even Robin van **** face. I don't think its fair to pick on a kid, who only had his debut and was not helped by the rest of the team and other senior players being poor.

Or RVP being a **** in the dressing room disrupting things.

Don't know about this kid, but has to be better LB then we have. so why not.

Doesnt matter who we get.. we could get Maldini in his prime and AW will coach the defensive ability out of him!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Doesnt matter who we get.

Never said it did.

[Özim]

You mean the player who made is international Debut at the age of 18. in a big tornarment, not proving to be the best shocker.

Mind you holland were bad anyways. Even your precious huntelaar was woeful at the euro's.
No I mean the defender who played for Holland aged 18 and showed he can't defend. It's one thing being nervous it's another to be exposed terribly in every match and be the weak link in a team...another Santos no thanks!

[Cripps_orig]

Reading manager Brian McDermott is targeting a January move for Arsenal's Andrey Arshavin, 31, but says signing too many players in the New Year will be "disrespectful" to the ones he already has.
Full story: Daily Mirror

QPR boss Mark Hughes has told Arsenal to forget about signing Adel Taarabt, 23, who has been tipped for a switch across London after a fine run of form.
Full story: Sun

Tards :lol: No chance of Arshavin

Hope we do forget trying to get Taarabt

[Joker]

No I mean the defender who played for Holland aged 18 and showed he can't defend. It's one thing being nervous it's another to be exposed terribly in every match and be the weak link in a team...another Santos no thanks!

That's a different player; Willian is a Brazilian playmaker.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No I mean the defender who played for Holland aged 18 and showed he can't defend. It's one thing being nervous it's another to be exposed terribly in every match and be the weak link in a team...another Santos no thanks!

Well duh, he was making his debut for his country. Maybe if there was more motivation from the big players in the team it might have helped him. Holland were poor in the Euro's not one was good.

So he had a few bad games, not the 1st 18 year old to.


That's a different player; Willian is a Brazilian playmaker.

We were linked with both.

[GP]

Anyone judging an 18-year-old on a handful of international games must be brain dead.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Anyone judging an 18-year-old on a handful of international games must be brain dead.

You new here. Its the way. He played shite for holland in a few games in june he must be shite. Only on GW tbh.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Everyone needs to relax. We got this.

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/685498549.jpg?key=12991707&Expires=1352589447&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=OVMP0~OxfTTToQcQIBUFeK6~f8jm4m5POAemnGxp 5QYHMjohbeX-hyLXJrJ6SO85vk9W2JH82wVpJWtaQNjtoqLRs4~oP6~nmqc~Xu GuawfYy22cmwss3V08KcONhLtkg--1eATSTGNdlqSaFlcNItZ4ht73JX59Oq5exJId68Q_

It's on!

[Marc Overmars]

If we sign Cavani (:haha:) then Podolski can forget about ever playing in the centre.

[Cripps_orig]

Cavani would be the best Uruguayan striker in the league

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Edinson :bow:

[Özim]

If we sign Cavani (:haha:) then Podolski can forget about ever playing in the centre.
It's highly unlikely either will happen to be honest, that is to say Cavani will never be signed (we'll probably sign some other mickey mouse signing playing in France who's originally from outer Mongolia) and Podolski will probably not play in the centre.

[Cripps_orig]

More importantly, why didnt McClean wear a poppy?

[Cripps_orig]

HAMBURG have issued Arsenal and Liverpool with hands-off warnings over their £9m striking prodigy Heung-Min Son, 20.
Rival bosses Arsene Wenger and Brendan Rodgers are keen on the South Korea player.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4637953/Gunners-and-Kop-warned-off-Son.html#ixzz2Bs7bUsKm

The new Park :bow:

[-Xs-]

If we are still languishing about mid table in january, then yes, we probably will see some signings. Hell, we may even sign Theo up and declare that as like a new signing. The board/wenger only seem to react when the chance of losing 4th becomes a reality.
I can see it now; they will invest, sign a fee good players, and then people will start talking of the possibilty of a sustained title shout next season. We will then sell half of the team in the summer meaning we never build on that.

[Asthmatic Kitty]

apparently julio cesar talked to us before going to qpr. if only...

[Cripps_orig]

apparently julio cesar talked to us before going to qpr. if only...

If true and we didnt get him :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Walcott and Sagna will be out for footballing reasons. We want them to stay but buying them a ticket to Manchester and drugging them and putting them on a train is misinterpreted always. Who will come in? It is hard to say. If we can find top, top, quality we will try to bring them in of course. But we must remember, transfer fees are not racist against money, the financial dopers make it impossible for our £1.5mill bid for Messi to be accepted. We are correct but Messi and his club will not accept this. £1.5mill is a lot of money, anyone should be happy with this, you could buy a Bugatti with that money and it is faster than Messi - who could say it is not? But this logic and reality is lost on teams who have no appreciation of money. When we accept £25mill for Adebayor it is not because of inflation in transfer fees, it is because we do not want to buy a Bugatti - unlike other clubs.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Walcott and Sagna will be out for footballing reasons. We want them to stay but buying them a ticket to Manchester and drugging them and putting them on a train is misinterpreted always. Who will come in? It is hard to say. If we can find top, top, quality we will try to bring them in of course. But we must remember, transfer fees are not racist against money, the financial dopers make it impossible for our £1.5mill bid for Messi to be accepted. We are correct but Messi and his club will not accept this. £1.5mill is a lot of money, anyone should be happy with this, you could buy a Bugatti with that money and it is faster than Messi - who could say it is not? But this logic and reality is lost on teams who have no appreciation of money. When we accept £25mill for Adebayor it is not because of inflation in transfer fees, it is because we do not want to buy a Bugatti - unlike other clubs.
:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been given permission to bolster his squad in the January transfer window and has made Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha, 20, and 26-year-old Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko his top targets.
Full story: Daily Mail

Zaha can go fuck himself tbh but Dzeko is a Must Get

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been given permission to bolster his squad in the January transfer

Odd he needs permission considering he runs the club. Hopefully he'll buy some defenders and a goalkeeper.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Zaha can go fuck himself tbh but Dzeko is a Must Get

Zaha is coming, we all know it. Theo's replacement tbh

Dzeko is a must get and a should get.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Odd he needs permission considering he runs the club. Hopefully he'll buy some defenders and a goalkeeper.

Pretty much.

[Niall_Quinn]

Isn't Dzeko on some stupid amount of money each week? We'd have to cut his wages by 2/3rds to bring him here. No chance.

[Cripps_orig]

Zaha is coming, we all know it. Theo's replacement tbh

Dzeko is a must get and a should get.If Zaha wants a future, he'll do well staying with Palace or joining another club

Join us and he will flop

Look at Ox

[Cripps_orig]

Isn't Dzeko on some stupid amount of money each week? We'd have to cut his wages by 2/3rds to bring him here. No chance.

Depends on if hes in it for the money or if he wants the games.

If he joins us then yes he will be paid less but he is more or less guaranteed to start every game on the wing

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Isn't Dzeko on some stupid amount of money each week? We'd have to cut his wages by 2/3rds to bring him here. No chance.

Don't think he is on that much, not sure though.

Maybe we should go for Balotelli :lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

If Zaha wants a future, he'll do well staying with Palace or joining another club

Join us and he will flop

Look at Ox

:doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Don't think he is on that much, not sure though.

Maybe we should go for Balotelli :lol:

Thought he was one of their £200K brigade. He'll be desperate for a game if he comes here for a bag of chips.

[Cripps_orig]

:doh:

Really? After being put in your place (Aguero the flop? :lol:) and knowing my near perfect record on our players, you still disagree?

Fair enough. If you want to look even more a fool then so be it

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Really? After being put in your place (Aguero the flop? :lol:) and knowing my near perfect record on our players, you still disagree?

Fair enough. If you want to look even more a fool then so be it

How has Ox flopped then. Yes he has not had the best season, but who has in this team, this is a young player trying to make his way. bit unfair to call him a flop.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

You wankers need to go get laid

:wwf:

[Cripps_orig]

How has Ox flopped then.

The fact hes done f all would suggest he has tbh

Even lost his England place to Zaha :lol:

Yes i know he played well v Mancs in January but one game doesnt make him brilliant as others on here seem to think.

He might get better. Hope he does and rams my comments back down my throat. Alas i am known as the best in the world at predicting flops for a reason

And you amongst others had the nerve to say he was better than Theo :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Yes he has not had the best season, but who has in this team, this is a young player trying to make his way. bit unfair to call him a flop.
Like i said, maybe its unfair but hes had all this pressure put on him by others flopping. Its not his fault but he has to deal with it. Hes being paid thousands to do so and hes failed thus far

[Niall_Quinn]

You wankers need to go get laid

:wwf:

How dare you suggest I be unfaithful to my wife!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Thought he was one of their £200K brigade. He'll be desperate for a game if he comes here for a bag of chips.

Who Dzeko or crazy?

We more or less get Ba or llorente anyways. Wage demands won't be too high.

[selassie]

Zaha is coming, we all know it. Theo's replacement tbh

Dzeko is a must get and a should get.

Would love Dzeko here too, he'd score 25+ goals every season for us IMHO.

We won't get him though, he'll cost the best part of 25mill+ City aren't going to give him away and he's done pretty well there TBF despite the fact he's not a guaranteed starter.

He's probably on in excess of 100K per week wages too so I've no idea why we're even linked to him.

We'll probably get Zaha if we're prepared to pay a bit and maybe another forward, Adrian Lopez is a fairly realistic target but IMHO not what we need.

Dzeko is definitely a player we do need, his goals would guarantee us top 4 IMHO.

I can't see any other players coming in, Theo will probably leave and that's our business done in Jan.

[Marc Overmars]

Dzeko is a must get, far too good to be a 2nd string striker. A front line that includes him and Big Sexy could be quite powerful.

[GP]

Not going to happen though

[Xhaka Can’t]

Not going to happen though

Oooooh....Listen to Nostrildamous here.

[Marc Overmars]

Not going to happen though

Goes without saying.

[Kano]

Dzeko is a must get, far too good to be a 2nd string striker. A front line that includes him and Big Sexy could be quite powerful.

still not convinced. he was gash last season (apart from open goals) and the city fans thought so too. improved this season but not sure about being a starter.

[Cripps_orig]

Dzeko is a must get, far too good to be a 2nd string striker. A front line that includes him and Big Sexy could be quite powerful.
Which one of them will be played on the wing?

[Cripps_orig]

WILFRIED ZAHA last night admitted he was in turmoil over his Palace future.
The Eagles wonder kid — a top target for Arsenal — has been in electrifying form since signing a new five-year deal at Selhurst Park last December.
But while the Ivory Coast-born starlet, who turned 20 on Saturday, insisted he loves life at Selhurst Park, he said that he has also been thinking about a possible move in January.
Zaha last night earned a call up to the England squad for Wednesday’s friendly against Sweden, but revealed: “I have got a lot going on.
“I try to take my mind off it. I’m at Palace so I don’t need to think about anything else. The fans have got loads of love for me, so it’s a nice place to be.
“I just have to do what I have to do and forget about everything else. But when January comes I have to decide.”
Palace chairman Steve Parish has put a £20million price-tag on the lightning-quick winger after knocking back two ‘opportunistic’ bids from the Emirates club.
But new boss Ian Holloway may be forced to cash in on his prize asset should the Eagles’ promotion bid falter.
Gunners chief Arsene Wenger sees Zaha as the perfect replacement for Theo Walcott, who becomes a free agent next summer.
And on Saturday he put in another virtuoso display as the Eagles fought back against Posh to regain top spot.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4639167/Wilfried-Zaha-needs-future-sorted.html#ixzz2C1IrQqvw

Rather keep Theo

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Which one of them will be played on the wing?

Dzeko. I'll nullify the threat. Giroud is harmless enough where he is.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Rather keep Theo

Yannick Bolaisse is better than Zaha.

[Chuck Felsea]

There are rumors swirling we might bid on Fellainni. I'd not mind getting him.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

There are rumors swirling we might bid on Fellainni. I'd not mind getting him.

He just reminds me of McClaren from poridge.

[Cripps_orig]

There are rumors swirling we might bid on Fellainni. I'd not mind getting him.

Id love him here but cant see him wanting to take a step down

[Cripps_orig]

Yannick Bolaisse is better than Zaha.

Cheaper as well

[Niall_Quinn]

There are rumors swirling we might bid on Fellainni. I'd not mind getting him.

The chavs are interested so we'd have to wait for them to make a decision before insulting Everton with a derisory bid.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yannick Bolaisse is better than Zaha.

Who?

[LDG]

He just reminds me of McClaren from poridge.

Narrowed down.

< 30

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Not going to happen though

Yep were getting Cavani instead :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

Yep were getting Cavani instead :coffee:

Of course we are. And Messi too.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Of course we are. And Messi too.

And Ronaldo.

Fat Ronaldo that it.

[selassie]

The chavs are interested so we'd have to wait for them to make a decision before insulting Everton with a derisory bid.

:lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Real Madrid are keeping tabs on Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha, 20, who has been called up to the England squad

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-gossip-wilfried-zaha-is-being-1432759

Know it has nout ti do with us, but as were linked with this guy thought id put it up.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Dzeko is a must get, far too good to be a 2nd string striker. A front line that includes him and Big Sexy could be quite powerful.

Would like to see Dzeko aswell but his wages would be a srumbling block I'm sure plus would he fit into our the default formation that Wenger seems to have absolutely no alternative too?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Would like to see Dzeko aswell but his wages would be a srumbling block I'm sure plus would he fit into our the default formation that Wenger seems to have absolutely no alternative too?

Kind of think he would. Seems like the type of Strong work horse striker we need. He'd be like Drogba. Strong and Powerfull Striker excatly what we need.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-gossip-wilfried-zaha-is-being-1432759

Know it has nout ti do with us, but as were linked with this guy thought id put it up.

Jose getting involved with our targets again. . .first Essien, now this. . .even heard he made a late bid for the new lady we hired at our training ground

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Kind of think he would. Seems like the type of Strong work horse striker we need. He'd be like Drogba. Strong and Powerfull Striker excatly what we need.

:good: so whada we waitin for?

[KSE Comedy Club]

We're not getting dzeko.

Citeh wouldn't sell to us unless it was for silly money which we won't offer.

Time to move on, there's some 18 yr old nobody from brentford who's the next big thing we should take a punt on instead :yawn:

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool are among the clubs considering bidding for highly-rated Derby midfielder Will Hughes, 17.Full story: Daily TelegraphCan see this happening

[selassie]

Jose getting involved with our targets again. . .first Essien, now this. . .even heard he made a late bid for the new lady we hired at our training ground

To be fair everyone seems to be on Zaha. If we do get him we won't be getting him on the cheap. I think it safe to say we'll need to stretch to 15million to get him like we did with OX.

Morevoer this boy is more experienced than either OX or Theo were before we bought them so whilst we're going for another Project, he's one with supreme potential and a little bit of experience already.

The more I've seen him and read about him the more I'm warming to the idea of him coming here.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

To be fair everyone seems to be on Zaha. If we do get him we won't be getting him on the cheap. I think it safe to say we'll need to stretch to 15million to get him like we did with OX.

Morevoer this boy is more experienced than either OX or Theo were before we bought them so whilst we're going for another Project, he's one with supreme potential and a little bit of experience already.

The more I've seen him and read about him the more I'm warming to the idea of him coming here.

Watch if we don't get him, the moaning on here will be something else.

[Niall_Quinn]

To be fair everyone seems to be on Zaha. If we do get him we won't be getting him on the cheap. I think it safe to say we'll need to stretch to 15million to get him like we did with OX.

Morevoer this boy is more experienced than either OX or Theo were before we bought them so whilst we're going for another Project, he's one with supreme potential and a little bit of experience already.

The more I've seen him and read about him the more I'm warming to the idea of him coming here.

So potentially we could sell him on faster because he's more experienced? I like this idea. Get him in. Also, if you can find a young African kid at some feeder club who is called Dzeko, that would be great. Or just get any stiff and change his name maybe? Call AFCCamden and tell him to push it hard.

[LDG]

He does sound like a well rounded individual, with his feet on the ground.


Unless I’m looking at Ronaldo or Messi, I’d never look at someone else and think he’s better than me.

[selassie]

He does sound like a well rounded individual, with his feet on the ground.

:lol:

Don't worry, as NQ said he'll sold in a couple of years if we buy him ;)

[Japan Shaking All Over]

He does sound like a well rounded individual, with his feet on the ground.

Gwan rude boy!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Gwan rude boy!

:haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar's agent has denied an agreement has been reached with a Premier League club over the transfer of the Schalke striker.

The Netherlands international's current contract with the German outfit runs out in June 2013 and he has yet to sign a new deal, prompting speculation about his future.

The 29-year-old has previously been linked with a move to Italian side Juventus, while rumours have recently emerged suggesting Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham were vying for his signature.

The player's representative Arnoldus Oosterveer has denied a deal has been struck with a Premier League side, insisting the player is keeping his options open.

However, he did reveal the former PSV, Real Madrid and Milan forward will make a decision on his future during the January transfer window.

"There is no agreement with any English club and Klaas has not yet decided anything about his future," Oosterveer told calciomercato.it

"He has not decided if he wants to play in Italy, Spain, England or stay in Germany. He is planning his future in the winter."

Regarding a possible contract extension with Schalke, he added: "Currently no hypothesis is rejected because in football you never know.

"So you [will] have to wait to know Huntelaar's future."


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8247621/The-agent-of-Schalke-s-Klaas-Jan-Huntelaar-denies-a-Premier-League-move-has-been-agreed

[GP]

Why not, we could use a decent backup striker.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:haha:

[Maestro]

:lol:


Gwan rude boy!

[Chuck Felsea]

It's sad Arsenal would be considered a step down from Everton. No disrespect to the Toffees.

[GP]

It's sad Arsenal would be considered a step down from Everton. No disrespect to the Toffees.

Who would consider Arsenal a step down?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Who would consider Arsenal a step down?

:gp:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Who would consider Arsenal a step down?

Tony Pulis.

[GP]

Tony Pulis.

He's a silly poop.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He's a silly poop.

Plus he is still 54 :coffee:

[Özim]

Who would consider Arsenal a step down?
Not much in it. Just one mistake separating the sides.

[Chuck Felsea]

Someone responded to my Fellainni comment saying he would not want to take a step down.

[GP]

Someone responded to my Fellainni comment saying he would not want to take a step down.

I see.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina, 30, is reportedly wanted by Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger as the Frenchman looks to tighten his defence in the January transfer window.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/917887-pepe-reina-back-on-arsenals-transfer-radar-as-arsene-wenger-considers-january-bid#ixzz2CEwa8rXt

[Marc Overmars]

Reina. :lol:

I remember when he used to be good.

[GP]

It was such an awlfully long time ago.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It was such an awlfully long time ago.

Villarreal days :bow:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I'm probably in a massive minority of Liverpool fans (and probably influenced by the stuff on here... like a disease) that I wouldn't be too bothered if he left. Certainly not in any way that I would have been 2/3 years ago. Though that is ignoring any kind of replacement. If he did want to go, I wouldn't hold it against him either.

Saying that I don't think his bad form is terminal, especially as he could feasibly have 6/7 years left in his career. I still think he could get back to his best, and that best is very, very good.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Reina. :lol:

I remember when he used to be good.

Oh god, he's just like flappianski

[KSE Comedy Club]

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/917887-pepe-reina-back-on-arsenals-transfer-radar-as-arsene-wenger-considers-january-bid#ixzz2CEwa8rXt

Honestly, these rag rumours get worse.

[Master Splinter]

I'm probably in a massive minority of Liverpool fans (and probably influenced by the stuff on here... like a disease) that I wouldn't be too bothered if he left. Certainly not in any way that I would have been 2/3 years ago. Though that is ignoring any kind of replacement. If he did want to go, I wouldn't hold it against him either.

Saying that I don't think his bad form is terminal, especially as he could feasibly have 6/7 years left in his career. I still think he could get back to his best, and that best is very, very good.

Harsh to call me and Maccy a disease tbh.

He's actually, genuinely shit though. And I don't throw that around lightly. He's got worse in every aspect over the last few seasons and quite alarmingly so. I don't think he was ever even close to being as good as a Buffon, Casillas, Pre-Helmet Cech or VDS (before his last couple of seasons, though he was still more solid than most). When he can't even rely on Hart/Given-esque Hollywood saves, what does he have left?

Get rid of moulding, residual shit like Gerrard, Reina, Carragher and Liverpool would instantly have a better squad.

Joe Cole is shit too.

Oh, and Horrendouson. Although he has a better chance of a recovery than Reina.

[Kano]

I'm probably in a massive minority of Liverpool fans (and probably influenced by the stuff on here... like a disease) that I wouldn't be too bothered if he left. Certainly not in any way that I would have been 2/3 years ago. Though that is ignoring any kind of replacement. If he did want to go, I wouldn't hold it against him either.

Saying that I don't think his bad form is terminal, especially as he could feasibly have 6/7 years left in his career. I still think he could get back to his best, and that best is very, very good.
if he had real competition then his standards wouldn't slip. look at our keeper. and joe hart.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Reina. :lol:

I remember when he used to be good.

'used to be good'?

shit that is criterion #1 for our scouts to work on. . .closely followed by. . .

'used to the the inside of the physio's room at #2

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Harsh to call me and Maccy a disease tbh.

He's actually, genuinely shit though. And I don't throw that around lightly. He's got worse in every aspect over the last few seasons and quite alarmingly so. I don't think he was ever even close to being as good as a Buffon, Casillas, Pre-Helmet Cech or VDS (before his last couple of seasons, though he was still more solid than most). When he can't even rely on Hart/Given-esque Hollywood saves, what does he have left?

Get rid of moulding, residual shit like Gerrard, Reina, Carragher and Liverpool would instantly have a better squad.

Joe Cole is shit too.

Oh, and Horrendouson. Although he has a better chance of a recovery than Reina.
Even if he wasn't at the level of Casillas or Buffon (which he wasn't, but they're two of the best keepers ever anyway so not exactly a fair yardstick) he was still a lot better than most. A lot better. And then seemingly when Valero, who had a big influence on Torres as well, left his form dropped off a cliff. The main thing he has left is his distribution which is still ridiculous but not exactly integral to a keeper, he can still pull off a good save or two but when he's in a one on one he's invisible. As I say I don't think it's terminal, but whoever said he needs some proper competition I totally agree. And Valero back. But the main reason I wouldn't be cutting myself if he did go (and I would have a few years ago before he collapsed... inside of the elbow. Make it count.) is because Jones has come in and we haven't imploded. And no one would say Jones is brilliant. And the obligatory rumours we're signing Butland in January.

Carragher is no more than a squad player anyway, and actually did well against Chelsea which was odd. Gerrard is undroppable... for now. Joe Cole is indeed shit. Henderdjemba I think has been quite hard done by; he doesn't do much wrong, he just doesn't do much at all. Whenever I bring him on as a sub on Fifa he's literally invisible, that's an apt analogy. But he's actually mildly decent when he takes off the cloak.

[selassie]

Someone responded to my Fellainni comment saying he would not want to take a step down.

It's more or less a sideways move at the moment. The only thing we could have guaranteed Fellaini until now is CL group stages.

We probably wouldn't even match his Everton wage!

[Niall_Quinn]

It's more or less a sideways move at the moment. The only thing we could have guaranteed Fellaini until now is CL group stages.

We probably wouldn't even match his Everton wage!

How do we know he'd even be any good on the wing? Risky transfer if you ask me. Unproven.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

his left toe is bigger than his right toe so i don't think he has the right balance to play on the wing.

[Niall_Quinn]

his left toe is bigger than his right toe so i don't think he has the right balance to play on the wing.

He only has one toe on each foot? :o

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

think so. his doctor said toes are overrated anyway.

[selassie]

How do we know he'd even be any good on the wing? Risky transfer if you ask me. Unproven.

:lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Paul Lambert has dismissed suggestions that Christian Benteke wants to join Arsenal, saying the striker is happy at Aston Villa.

The Belgium international has made a massive impact since his £7m switch from Genk but was reported by the press in his home country as saying that he thought Villa "were a London club" before he signed and that he "loves Arsenal".

But Lambert believes the 21-year-old's comments were taken out of context and says Benteke has not expressed a desire to leave Villa Park.

Lambert said: "I think it's been a bit naughty and misconstrued of what he said and been reported in Belgium.

"I know what it is like when that happens so I'll take it lightly. He is a big guy and doesn't say two words.

"In any case, if you ask any young footballer they will have a team and players they have followed.

"Listen, I'll reassure the fans that the big guy is more than happy. He is playing really well. If he wasn't happy, he wouldn't be playing the way he is.

"Christian has been excellent. He's been a real handful against most of the teams he's faced.

"He's not just doing it for us, he's been doing it for Belgium. People forget he's only 21 and isn't the finished article by any stretch of the imagination.

"But he is going to be one hell of a player, that's for sure, and I think he's worth every penny at the minute."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8251572/Paul-Lambert-denies-reports-Christian-Benteke-seeking-move-away-from-Aston-Villa
:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8251572/Paul-Lambert-denies-reports-Christian-Benteke-seeking-move-away-from-Aston-Villa
:haha:

Great example of the type of player we don't need. Can't even be bothered to check out the club he's joining. Now he fancies the London scene so we'll do. Nice.

[Master Splinter]

Benteke is a Must Get.

The new Adebayor.

But a lot better.

And Belgian.

[KSE Comedy Club]

The sun reckon were willing to offer Walcott and £8m for raheem sterling.

:haha:

[GP]

Good deal, that.


For Liverpool.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Good deal, that.


For Liverpool.

Pretty much. Chuck in Luis then were talking. Though i can see this happening tbh.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Apart from the usual noise about Theo. . .more stories about Holtby, from what Ive seen he seems like a good player but not one that is going to walk into thhe team as we seem to,be full in that area. . .however if we were to get rid of Andy then. . . ?

Sign in Jan or leave till the summer=free?

[Marc Overmars]

Holtby in, Ramsey out tbf.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Good shout. . .have said that if Theo wants out then he can go but at the same time I hope he proves me wrong as he can be magic

Ramsey may not want out but is he going to get better?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Roma have approached Arsenal over a £5m move for Tomas Rosicky in January.

The Czech Republic midfielder's time in north London has been severely disrupted by injury and he has not played this season following further problems.

An Achilles' tendon injury sustained last summer has held Rosicky back and Arsene Wenger could look to cash-in on him in January.

Roma are interested in the 32-year-old and have already sounded out Arsenal over a possible move. His current contract expires in June 2014 and the Serie A club believe they can land him on the cheap.


http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/121120/roma-plot-%C2%A35m-move-arsenal-ace-185713

From TS so its probs rubbish, but if they do offer 5 mill then we should take it tbh.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenger saying today that he might try and get Henry on loan again in January as well loose gervinho and Chamakh to the acon.

So that'll be our big window signing.

Yay.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger saying today that he might try and get Henry on loan again in January as well loose gervinho and Chamakh to the acon.

So that'll be our big window signing.

Yay.

Looking forward very much to losing Gervinho and Chamakh. Been a while since we had good news on the player front.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Looking forward very much to losing Gervinho and Chamakh. Been a while since we had good news on the player front.

:haha:

[selassie]

Apart from the usual noise about Theo. . .more stories about Holtby, from what Ive seen he seems like a good player but not one that is going to walk into thhe team as we seem to,be full in that area. . .however if we were to get rid of Andy then. . . ?

Sign in Jan or leave till the summer=free?

I'd like Holtby, I think he's got big potential and could start for us now.

[Kano]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/121120/roma-plot-%C2%A35m-move-arsenal-ace-185713

From TS so its probs rubbish, but if they do offer 5 mill then we should take it tbh.
i'd say so too. we finally saw the player we always hoped for last season but these injuries will keep coming back, just like diaby. we can only gain by getting rid.