January Transfers -- Speculation & Shit?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Have always maintained that we're finishing in 4th place this season. Even more so considering that we haven't been far off the pace no matter how shitte we've been.

And then there is also Spuds, Everton, Newcastle, 'Ammers, WBA, et al. 4th pretty much a guarantee I'd say.

Fair play then.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wouldn't mind either. KJH has scored wherever he's been and Ba has done it in this country for clubs at a similar level to us

Well seen as KJH seems like he is going to sign a new deal soon, guess it would have to be Ba, he clearly wants to leave barcodes. Not going in the best way about it though.

[Cripps_orig]

What makes you think he's signing a contract?

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah we'll get 4th because we are the least worst also ran.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Good player, defends well and also fantastic on the overlap.

A horrible cheat though. Wins a fair amount of freekicks and hounds refs to issue cards to opponents. We could use his despicable kind around here every once in a while, tbh.

http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/80/281x351/99611_1.jpg

[Japan Shaking All Over]

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
rumours that Holtby and Huntelaar will announce contract extensions at Schalke later tonight

nope.....no matter how hard I look can't see where the musical instrument is in that one :scratch:

[KSE Comedy Club]

The times say that huntelaar has opened talks with us about a move and will ask for £100k a week.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal have held "peace talks" with Theo Walcott, 23, over a new contract and will tie up deals for British trio Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Aaron Ramsey and Kieran Gibbs. Full story: Daily Mirror?Arsenal have opened formal talks to sign Schalke striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar next month. The 29-year-old is demanding about £100,000 a week in wages and a three-year contract to move to the Gunners.Full story: The Times (subscription only)?Tottenham and Arsenal have joined the list of British clubs watching disillusioned Barcelona striker David Villa, 31.Full story: Futbol.as? Sell Gervinho, Ramsey and Giroud and use their wages to sign up Theo, KJH and Villa

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sell Gervinho, Ramsey and Giroud and use their wages to sign up Theo, KJH and Villa

Nothing wrong with Giroud.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Nothing wrong with Giroud.

....barring being too slow for a main striker and seldom scoring a goal by kicking the ball.

[Cripps_orig]

Nothing wrong with Giroud.His lack of movement is hardly nothing. He's not shit and he's done ok but ultimately he's not in KJH or Villas league. Not that we will get either so we are stuck with Giroud. Yay

[Fist of Lehmann]

The times say that huntelaar has opened talks with us about a move and will ask for £100k a week.

£100k, who does he think he is, Theo Walcott?

[Munchies]

He wants 100k, usually I'd disagree, but the board needs to start spending so why not ?

100k is going out on the likes of Ramsey/Arshavin/Squillaci each week

[Olivier's xmas twist]

....barring being too slow for a main striker and seldom scoring a goal by kicking the ball.


His lack of movement is hardly nothing. He's not shit and he's done ok but ultimately he's not in KJH or Villas league. Not that we will get either so we are stuck with Giroud. Yay

Come on he's settling into new league, give him more then 3 months before we decide he should be sold. Fuck me.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

£100k, who does he think he is, Theo Walcott?

No he's better.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sell Gervinho, Ramsey and Giroud and use their wages to sign up Theo, KJH and Villa

No way we'd sign all 3 and if those 2 come here, Theo won't play up top like he wants. If he goes get those 2 and most will be happy.

[Fist of Lehmann]

No he's better.

In which case one of them doesn't rate £100k.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

In which case one of them doesn't rate £100k.

Yep.

[SayNoMore]

Theo might not deserve 100k a week but neither should we call gervinho/chamakh/ramsey professional football players let alone allow them to rob us £40k> a week EACH.. I know who id rather have starting in the team even if its an at extortionate rate.

[Cripps_orig]

Come on he's settling into new league, give him more then 3 months before we decide he should be sold. Fuck me.He's had half a season. Its unfortunate that he's joined us in a time where the fans patience has gone and we want instant results but that's the way it is. Blame Wenger and his previous failures who used up all of our patience

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Come on he's settling into new league, give him more then 3 months before we decide he should be sold. Fuck me.

I'm not saying we shouldn't give him a little time (though I doubt he'll get much better, as he doesn't seem of the mold of a DB, TH14 or a RvC). I'm just pointing out his shortcomings - those that I've observed ie - since you boldly posted on a public forum that nothing's wrong with him.

[Özim]

Giroud has done ok but his limitations are there for all to see, he was a budget buy and he looks like a budget buy, he'll never be top notch and right now we need a top striker up front.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He's had half a season. Its unfortunate that he's joined us in a time where the fans patience has gone and we want instant results but that's the way it is. Blame Wenger and his previous failures who used up all of our patience

Give him a season them judge him. Understand selling Gev and Rambo (not that it will happen now he has his new contract) but Giroud has to be given time. Anyone expcting him to be a big hit from the off was only kidding themselves.

I'm not saying we shouldn't give him a little time (though I doubt he'll get much better, as he doesn't seem of the mold of a DB, TH14 or a RvC). I'm just pointing out his shortcomings - those that I've observed ie - since you boldly posted on a public forum that nothing's wrong with him.

Sorry that was aimed at Ach not you. Ok so he is not the best striker in the world and im not saying he is. he is still useful to the team.

[Kano]

of course he's useful to the team, he's a decent striker. should we recall chamakh instead? he'll comfortably get into double figures but it is important that we compliment him with a top tier guy come the summer - even if we do scoop up demba ba in january.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

of course he's useful to the team, he's a decent striker. should we recall chamakh instead? he'll comfortably get into double figures but it is important that we compliment him with a top tier guy come the summer - even if we do scoop up demba ba in january.

Don't remember saying we should leave him and not buy another top striker.

[Kano]

that wasn't to you charles, calm down. just a general post to everyone.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Important also for us to swing more aerial crosses aimed at that 12 yard area. Should be a given that we play to our main striker's strength(s). That Giroud can head a ball at ten times the pace than that Gervinho can kick a ball.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Charlie :lol:

So quick to grab his handbag; only he never actually does storm out the room, does he?

[Syn]

of course he's useful to the team, he's a decent striker. should we recall chamakh instead? he'll comfortably get into double figures but it is important that we compliment him with a top tier guy come the summer - even if we do scoop up demba ba in january.

We need to figure out how we're going to play first. We need to commit to a system and then buy players that fit those roles. At the moment we seem to be getting the players in first and then trying to see how we can play them. I'm jumping on the bandwagon of wanting a speedy striker. But the trouble is - you ask people what they want and they'll want everything. They want someone with pace, someone strong, someone who can win aerial battles and score headers, someone with great technical ability, someone with great striker's instinct, someone who can create chances for himself...price-tag: £45m.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

that wasn't to you charles, calm down. just a general post to everyone.

:lol: then i apologise.

Charlie :lol:

So quick to grab his handbag; only he never actually does storm out the room, does he?

:gp:

[Cripps_orig]

Give him a season them judge him. Understand selling Gev and Rambo (not that it will happen now he has his new contract) but Giroud has to be given time. Anyone expcting him to be a big hit from the off was only kidding themselves. Why a full season? Chamakh was given until Xmas after he joined and then RVP got fit and stayed fit and Chamakh has hardly kicked a ball since and he scored more goals in his time in the first team than Giroud has. No consistency.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Why a full season? Chamakh was given until Xmas after he joined and then RVP got fit and stayed fit and Chamakh has hardly kicked a ball since and he scored more goals in his time in the first team than Giroud has. No consistency.

Chamakh cried like a bitch and said he need a few months to rest, only himself to blame. He don't look to bothered he is not playing games anyway.

[Kano]

We need to figure out how we're going to play first. We need to commit to a system and then buy players that fit those roles. At the moment we seem to be getting the players in first and then trying to see how we can play them. I'm jumping on the bandwagon of wanting a speedy striker. But the trouble is - you ask people what they want and they'll want everything. They want someone with pace, someone strong, someone who can win aerial battles and score headers, someone with great technical ability, someone with great striker's instinct, someone who can create chances for himself...price-tag: £45m.
i would be surprised if we moved away from the 4-3-3 and the modern way of playing is closing fast, then hitting on the break even faster, so pace is essential to our approach. only barcelona have the players to tiptoe their way through a minefield of defenders to score as our lot are very good technically but that isn't enough. theo working out upfront could change wengers thinking but only having one striker that has any pace is a big worry. cheeky bid for chicarito? yeah i know, no chance but he'd be killer for us.

[Kano]

Why a full season? Chamakh was given until Xmas after he joined and then RVP got fit and stayed fit and Chamakh has hardly kicked a ball since and he scored more goals in his time in the first team than Giroud has. No consistency.
i dunno, 14 goals in 65 appearances seem to indicate that he is complete and utter gash.

[Özim]

The best thing about Chamakh is there's enough grease in his hair to keep a chip shop ticking over for several months.

On the football pitch he has just been awful, having seen him many times before he arrived it comes as no surprise though, never felt he was a quality player.

[Cripps_orig]

Was excellent for Bordeaux especially in their title winning season and he does hold the CL record for scoring in most consecutive games and the one run he's had in our team, he scored goals and won quite a few penalties. Probably could and should have done better in the couple of games he's started in since but it wasn't to be. Not a bad player by any means. Just wrongly managed

[Kano]

Was excellent for Bordeaux especially in their title winning season and he does hold the CL record for scoring in most consecutive games and the one run he's had in our team, he scored goals and won quite a few penalties. Probably could and should have done better in the couple of games he's started in since but it wasn't to be. Not a bad player by any means. Just wrongly managed
our defence of eboue, toure, senderos, flamini also held/holds the cl defensive record - these freaks of nature happen.

perhaps badly managed but chamakh has to take responsibility for chamakh. if he wants to succeed at a big club, then he has to realise that a luxury run of games to get up and running are few and far between. either as sub or occassional starter his all round game - not just putting it into the net - has to shine through, and he hasn't done that. and that is down to him. i was behind him when he first started his barren spell but have come to realise that he just is not good enough for arsenal if we want to get better.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Was excellent for Bordeaux especially in their title winning season and he does hold the CL record for scoring in most consecutive games and the one run he's had in our team, he scored goals and won quite a few penalties. Probably could and should have done better in the couple of games he's started in since but it wasn't to be. Not a bad player by any means. Just wrongly managed

Playing in the french league and this one are 2 diffrent things. You have to work twice as hard. Its clear this league is hard for him. He even said so himself in his 1st season and he is still struggling.

End of the day no one in the top 4 would have him in their team shows you have good he really is. Only saving grace we paid no money for the guy.

[Cripps_orig]

Fair points. I don't think he's good enough for what we want to achieve either but nether is Giroud. Time for KJH and Ba tbh

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Arsenal's pursuit of Klaas-Jan Huntelaar may have come to an unhappy end for the Gunners, with reports emerging from Germany that the Dutch forward will sign a new deal with Schalke 04.

The 29-year-old was said to want £100k per week to move to England , and if local reports are to be believed, the Royal Blues have succumbed to his demands and a contract extension will be announced in the next few days.

Such news will cheers Schalke fans who have endured a drop from second to seventh place in the Bundesliga over recent weeks, as well as an early cup exit at the hands of Mainz.

It will further frustrate Arsene Wenger though, who was said to be very keen on adding a proven goalscorer of Huntelaar's quality to his misfiring frontline.

With his contract expiring in June, Schalke had feared that the striker - who netted 48 goals in 48 games last season - would walk away for free in the summer, and had been preparing to sell him in January had he stalled further on a new deal.

Instead, WAZ now report that he will stay at the Veltins Arena, with coveted teammate Lewis Holtby also said to be close to a decision on his future.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/klaas-jan-huntelaar-set-for-new-schalke-1497514

Oh well.

Least Holtby still ain't signed a deal, must get tbh.

[Grebbo]

KJH was never an Arsenal signing.

29 yrs old wanting his last pay check. He'd likely want at least a 4yr deal on £100k pw.

So thats a total investment of £26million (presuming a £5m signing fee) for a player with zero sell on value.

Very un-Arsenal like.

[Kano]

it was something to do with the manager leaving the club, now that he has KJH is likely to sign.

[fakeyank]

http://soccerlens.com/zambian-international-reveals-forthcoming-arsenal-move/100061/

Who?

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/article?contentId=3615094 Cheeky bid?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/article?contentId=3615094 Cheeky bid?

No. Guys a flop everywhere he goes.

[Master Splinter]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/article?contentId=3615094 Cheeky bid?

Cheeky bid for a free player?

[GP]

Cheeky bid for a shit player?

No thanks

[fakeyank]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/article?contentId=3615094 Cheeky bid?

Not a bad call.. better than Gervinho any day

[-Xs-]

No thanks

Indeed. Massive bids for shit players is much more our style

[Özim]

Indeed. Massive bids for shit players is much more our style
Pretty much :lol:

[GP]

Indeed. Massive bids for shit players is much more our style

I don't think we've ever put in a massive bid for anyone.

[Cripps_orig]

Cheeky bid for a free player?You the new WUF?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Cheeky bid for a free player?

:haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Not a bad call.. better than Gervinho any day

Yes it is, the guy is shite and we have enough of that already. He was poor when he went to chavs and is still poor and he probs want some stupid wage too. He can feck off tbh.

[-Xs-]

I don't think we've ever put in a massive bid for anyone.

Massive bids relative to the players super super super super super quality. For example, Gervinho for 10m+ was a massive bid. Chamakh on a free was a massive bid.

[Cripps_orig]

Not a bad call.. better than Gervinho any dayThat's really not saying much tbh. Quaresma is a funny one. He's got talent but hardly shown it apart from maybe Porto. He's wasted his career and talent away and Wenger hasn't even managed him. One of the few our manager can't take the blame for but we are the club for wasted talents so Must Get

[Özil's Panoramic View]

That's really not saying much tbh. Quaresma is a funny one. He's got talent but hardly shown it apart from maybe Porto. He's wasted his career and talent away and Wenger hasn't even managed him. One of the few our manager can't take the blame for but we are the club for wasted talents so Must Get

:haha: :haha: http://184.172.194.66/~wheels12/wheels_forum/Smileys/default/lg_cry.gif

[cricketsi]

That's really not saying much tbh. Quaresma is a funny one. He's got talent but hardly shown it apart from maybe Porto. He's wasted his career and talent away and Wenger hasn't even managed him. One of the few our manager can't take the blame for but we are the club for wasted talents so Must Get
Still, better than Ronaldo.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Still, better than Ronaldo.

:lol:

[fari]

Still, better than Ronaldo.

i remember seeing him in a pre season game when barca played milan and he had nesta busy. i thought wow dude is going to be a world beater...guess i was wrong

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: nesta

poor man's maldini.

[LDG]

Still, better than Ronaldo.

QIBTR :bow:

[GP]

Wenger says hes ready to make 'Exceptional' signings in January. :dance:

He's never said that before...

[LDG]

Wenger says hes ready to make 'Exceptional' signings in January. :dance:

He's never said that before...

Top top top top top, super super exceptional?

If it's only top top top top super exceptional, I'll be fucking annoyed :angry:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wenger says hes ready to make 'Exceptional' signings in January. :dance:

He's never said that before...

Wumger :bow:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

A two-word phrase has entered the sporting lexicon in 2012 thanks to Dave Brailsford and his army of rather good cyclists. It's a phrase now so embedded in the mainstream that even Gary Lineker can say it without looking confused. That two-word phrase is 'small gains' - encapsulating the concept that in a sport often decided by micro-seconds, the tiniest adjustment can be the difference between success and failure.

Sir Alex Ferguson could have cited that same phrase when people questioned his purchase of the 29-year-old Robin van Persie for £24m and £200,000-a-week wages. Having lost the Premier League title on goal difference, only small gains were required. When you're that good already - and the potential rewards are so great - small gains come at large prices. Ferguson's unwritten rules about refusing to pay transfer fees for players with little sell-on value were forgotten in the pursuit of the one player he knew could be the difference between first and second.

Van Persie's purchase was even described as a 'farewell present to Fergie' by one Mail on Sunday report that quoted a source as saying: "Alex will only be manager for a couple more years so it was time the owners gave him what he wanted. And that was Van Persie. What is a few million? It could be the difference that helps Alex win the Champions League again."

It's difficult to argue that the Dutchman's arrival has magically made United the best team in Europe, but it's clear that Van Persie's contribution could be enough to bridge the smallest of gaps between the Manchester clubs.

Unfortunately, the much bigger gap between the Manchester clubs and the chasing Premier League pack is rather more than one player wide. Much more than 'small gains' are needed to transform Chelsea, Tottenham or Arsenal into Premier League champions. So while it made sense for Ferguson to throw his economic principles out of the window to capture Van Persie, is it really sensible for Arsene Wenger to do the same to bring in Klaas-Jan Huntelaar?

Talk of a £100,000-a-week three-year contract for a 29-year-old striker (who is not Van Persie) is anathema to Wenger's methods. When Mikel Arteta was bought at the same age, he was asked to take a pay cut to reflect the fact that he would have little sell-on value, but Arsenal cannot request that Huntelaar does the same as he counts down to being able to name his price in the summer when his Schalke contract ends.

The Dutchman has consistently scored goals for the majority of his career but the difference between his prowess and that of the 26-year-old Olivier Giroud is not nearly enough to merit him becoming the club's highest wage earner. In fact, Giroud has scored a goal every 275 minutes of Premier League football to Huntelaar's goal every 291 Bundesliga minutes this season. The difference is negligible and it seems likely that the younger and - in wage terms at least - cheaper Giroud will improve as Huntelaar's powers decline.

Huntelaar did score 29 Bundesliga goals for Schalke last season but that's the only time he has edged into double-figure territory outside of Holland (incidentally, striker Jozy Altidore scored one Premier League goal for Hull City but currently has 11 in 16 Eredivisie games for AZ this season). This is not to decry a striker who has scored an astonishing 34 goals in 59 international games - but £100,000 a week? At the age of 29? The gap to the title is way too wide for such a small gain.

Sarah Winterburn

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/8342536/Huntelaar-Small-Gain-Not-Worth-Bank-Break

agree or disagree.

[IBK]

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/8342536/Huntelaar-Small-Gain-Not-Worth-Bank-Break

agree or disagree.

LOL - what Sarah Winterburn forgets is that any purchase will not be made to try to bridge the gap to the EPL leaders, it will be to bridge the gap to 4th place.

[Cripps_orig]

More importantly, has Charlie confused this Winterburn with Ian Wright as well? :popcorn:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

More importantly, has Charlie confused this Winterburn with Ian Wright as well? :popcorn:

You'll never be a comedian, so don't give up your day job.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal and Liverpool target Fernando Llorente is set to meet Juventus officials on Monday in a bid to thrash out a deal that will see the 27-year-old old Spain striker leave Athletic Bilbao.Full story: talkSPORT?Reading are hopeful of beating Arsenal to a deal for highly-rated Zambian defender Stoppila Sunzu, 23, from Congolese club TP Mazembe.Full story: Metro?looks like FL week won't be happening. FFS we need Sunzu here. Big fan of his

[Olivier's xmas twist]

FL week :rose:

No need to wum over Sunzu.

[Cripps_orig]

Wasn't wumming. Genuine annoyance if we miss out on the Zambian legend that is whatever his name is. Big Zambian football fan I am as you know

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wasn't wumming. Genuine annoyance if we miss out on the Zambian legend that is whatever his name is. Big Zambian football fan I am as you know

No your not.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Arsenal are exploring an audacious swoop for Barcelona striker David Villa.

And Wojciech Szczesny's future as the Gunners' first-choice goalkeeper is growing increasingly uncertain with Sunderland custodian Simon Mignolet the latest to emerge as a January target.

But it is the possible capture of Villa that will excite Arsenal fans going into the festive period.
Arsene Wenger and his backroom team have discussed a January swoop for Villa, a forward the Gunners boss has admired for several years.

The Gunners would rather take the 31-year-old on loan until the end of the season, with a view to a permanent deal depending on how he takes to the Premier League.

But if the price is right, Arsenal would stretch to a long term deal in January.Sources in Spain indicate Barca could let Villa leave should he indicate a preference to depart given his lack of first-team football.

Wenger has made bolstering his strikeforce a top priority next month.

Klass-Jan Huntelaar, Adrian Lopez and Edin Dzeko all feature on Wenger's list, while Thierry Henry is expected to return for a third spell at the club.Wenger's search for a new goalkeeper to challenge Szczesny has seen him turn to the impressive Mignolet.

The Arsenal manager is unhappy with the level of competition Szczesny has at the moment and wants an experienced keeper to push the young Pole and even replace him.

Pepe Reina, Asmir Begovic and Michel Vorm are other goalkeeping possibilities.
Szczesny is unlikely to be happy about the prospect of sitting on the bench should the new arrival push him out of the starting XI.

Meanwhile, Crystal Palace starlet Wilfried Zaha is set to decide on a move to either Manchester United or Arsenal next month.

The England international has privately set his heart on leaving Selhurst Park in January for a move to an elite top flight club.

And it is understood Zaha is weighing up solid offers from Old Trafford and the Emirates Stadium.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2251843/David-Villa-Arsenal-radar-Arsene-Wenger-ponders-swoop-Barcelona-star.html#ixzz2Fjc0mkKC
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[Olivier's xmas twist]

nter Milan are ready to rival West Ham in the hunt for Arsenal striker Marouane Chamakh. The 28-year-old has been told he can quit Arsenal during the January transfer window after slipping down the pecking order and has already held talks with West Ham over a loan move.
However, Serie A giants Inter Milan have also been recommended Chamakh by his agent, who is actively looking to secure his client a move out of the Emirates Stadium as soon as possible.
Chamakh is believed to prefer a return to France though, with former club Bordeaux also keen, but they are refusing to match Arsenal’s £3million valuation for the striker as well as find money to finance the Moroccan’s £60,000-a-week wages.
Hammers boss Sam Allardyce wants to bring Chamakh in on loan until the end of the season but won’t commit to a transfer up front – something that is unappealing to Arsenal.
Inter have since emerged as a more realistic option, with coach Andrea Stramaccioni already said to have informed owner Massimo Moratti that he would welcome Chamakh’s arrival.
Chamakh has made just two appearances for Arsenal this season, both in the Capital One Cup, and he has two goals to his name.


http://metro.co.uk/2012/12/21/inter-milan-join-west-ham-in-race-for-arsenal-striker-marouane-chamakh-3326432/
:pray:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

http://metro.co.uk/2012/12/21/inter-milan-join-west-ham-in-race-for-arsenal-striker-marouane-chamakh-3326432/
:pray:

:pray:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:pray:

:gp:

[fakeyank]

:pray:

:pray:

Take Scillaci with him for free!

[Master Splinter]

:pray:

Take Scillaci with him for free!

Who?

[Cripps_orig]

Arsene Wenger will try to sign Atletico Madrid striker Adrian Lopez, 24, instead of Barcelona's David Villa because he is concerned about paying too much for a 31-year-old.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal are weighing up a January move for Sunderland's Belgian goalkeeper Simon Mignolet, 24.
Full story: Metro

Arsenal will lose some of their £30m-a-year sponsorship from main backers Emirates if the club fail to qualify for the Champions League in the future.
Full story: Daily Mail

Villa is far better :doh: Mignolet isnt better than Ches. Oh

[Özim]

and so it begins to unravel, Huntelaar signs new contract:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2252438/Klaas-Jan-Huntelaar-signs-new-Schalke-04-deal-leaving-Arsenal-frustrated.html

Either we weren't really interested or he turned us down to stay at Schalke.

I just know what's going to happen here, we're sitting in 3rd and now all is looking good we won't be getting anyone decent :sigh:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

and so it begins to unravel, Huntelaar signs new contract:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2252438/Klaas-Jan-Huntelaar-signs-new-Schalke-04-deal-leaving-Arsenal-frustrated.html

I just know what's going to happen here, we're sitting in 3rd and now all is looking good we won't be getting anyone decent :sigh:

All is rosy in the garden again :scarf:

Lord Wenger :bow:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

and so it begins to unravel, Huntelaar signs new contract:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2252438/Klaas-Jan-Huntelaar-signs-new-Schalke-04-deal-leaving-Arsenal-frustrated.html

Either we weren't really interested or he turned us down to stay at Schalke.

I just know what's going to happen here, we're sitting in 3rd and now all is looking good we won't be getting anyone decent :sigh:

Don't think he ever wanted to leave his club, he had problems with the other manager and now he left and got his 100K he was happy.

Wenger never once said he wanted him, that was all paper talk woth no quotes. Just like this article lousy journo's.


'I now want to put a positive sign, because I believe in our team and the fact that we are in the second round in the Bundesliga is a great prize.


the 2nd round of the Bundesliga, how does one reach the 2nd round of the league?

[Cripps_orig]

and so it begins to unravel, Huntelaar signs new contract:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2252438/Klaas-Jan-Huntelaar-signs-new-Schalke-04-deal-leaving-Arsenal-frustrated.html

Either we weren't really interested or he turned us down to stay at Schalke.

I just know what's going to happen here, we're sitting in 3rd and now all is looking good we won't be getting anyone decent :sigh:

Never fear, we still have Giroud tbh

Oh

We're fucked

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Never fear, we still have Giroud tbh

Oh

We're fucked

:ilt:

[Cripps_orig]

Manchester City's new sporting director Txiki Begiristain is urging his club to make Arsenal's Theo Walcott, 23, a priority target.
Full story: Daily StarHes gone

FFS

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Hes gone

FFS

The next Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell if he goes there. He'll be on the bench.

[Cripps_orig]

The next Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell if he goes there. He'll be on the bench.

:lol:

He'll play much more than them

[Özim]

Walcott isn't going to stay, we've seen this scenario a number of times before and every time the player has left. If he was going to stay he'd have signed by now, Wenger will claim he's still very hopeful etc but that means little IMO.

Players who stay at a club don't let the contract run down so much, I mean what's going to change, clearly we're not going to offer more money and we're not going to start winning stuff.

We're a club who pride themselves in being 2nd best (well 4th but you know what I mean), does any player really want to stick around at a club like us given the choice of going to a club with bigger ambitions?

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

The next Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell if he goes there. He'll be on the bench.

so he'll be a white guy and a black guy at the same time.

impressive :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:lol:

He'll play much more than them

Yes he'll start ahead of Tevez and Sergio. Dumb if he goes there tbh. Then again its dumb if you believe a story from the daily Star.

[Cripps_orig]

Yes he'll start ahead of Tevez and Sergio. Dumb if he goes there tbh. Then again its dumb if you believe a story from the daily Star.

Sergio the flop? Your words not mine :lol:

Why dumb? City are a team winning things. We are content with 4th

Says it all

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sergio the flop? Your words not mine :lol:

Why dumb? City are a team winning things. We are content with 4th

Says it all

He is not better then Tevez or Sergio and no way he'd start ahead of those, up top. So really he'd not play up top was "he wants"

Guess that big pay check might come in handy though.

[Özim]

He is not better then Tevez or Sergio and no way he'd start ahead of those, up top. So really he'd not play up top was "he wants"

Guess that big pay check might come in handy though.
There's also the success or potential success factor.

Look at RVP, do you think he wishes he stayed with us?

[Cripps_orig]

A person trying to get the best deal he can? Shock horror. Im so surprised at that. I am sure money is an issue but not the only issue. He obviously wants to stay but why stay at a team that sells its best players and doesnt appreciate you either? Theo is entitled to do what he wants and im sure if he does leave then he goes with all true gooners blessing

[Olivier's xmas twist]

There's also the success or potential success factor.

Look at RVP, do you think he wishes he stayed with us?

Yes but RVP was good enough, Theo is not their is a clear diffrence. RVP could go to any team and start Theo can't. My point has nothing to do with him wanting to win things, is how many games he will play, which is what he says he wants.

If you think he is better then City's stikers then fair enough.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

A person trying to get the best deal he can? Shock horror. Im so surprised at that. I am sure money is an issue but not the only issue. He obviously wants to stay but why stay at a team that sells its best players and doesnt appreciate you either? Theo is entitled to do what he wants and im sure if he does leave then he goes with all true gooners blessing

Yeah but you said he'd stay if he gets to play up top, now its about selling our best players. Im sure Scott Sinclair and Rodwell, Went to City for Ambititon but you can't tell me both are happy bunnies.

[Cripps_orig]

Yes but RVP was good enough, Theo is not their is a clear diffrence. RVP could go to any team and start Theo can't. My point has nothing to do with him wanting to win things, is how many games he will play, which is what he says he wants.

If you think he is better then City's stikers then fair enough.
Its a squad game. Is he better than them now? Probably not but maybe he wants to challenge himself and become better. Good luck to him. Obviously i hope he flops v us but other than that, wish him all the best

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah but you said he'd stay if he gets to play up top, now its about selling our best players.

Also said it as about not appreciating him which Wenger doesnt. All the lies he has told Theo, offering him a paltry £75k and then handing Wilshere £80k a week for doing f all for a year and a half. Its a joke.

Theo is right to think about it. Its his future, he has to pay the bills somehow.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Its a squad game. Is he better than them now? Probably not but maybe he wants to challenge himself and become better. Good luck to him. Obviously i hope he flops v us but other than that, wish him all the best

Personally i think he be better off at Chavs tbh. But if he goes to City good luck to him is right, one think ill be happy is this saga will be over.

[Cripps_orig]

Only a saga cos of Wenger and the board.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Only a saga cos of Wenger and the board.

Not really, funny how Jack and Co managed to sign a deal real quick. All the board did not do was give him the money what he wanted.

[Cripps_orig]

Not really, funny how Jack and Co managed to sign a deal real quick. All the board did not do was give him the money what he wanted.
Why wouldnt they sign quick?

4 of the 5 know they wont get it any better than this. If they leave us, itll be too go to clubs such as WBA, Stoke etc. Hence they signed

Wilshere knows no team is going to touch him atm til he proves he can play week in and out and we stupidly give him 80k a week for doing f all. He'd be an idiot not to sign

[cricketsi]

Also said it as about not appreciating him which Wenger doesnt. All the lies he has told Theo, offering him a paltry £75k and then handing Wilshere £80k a week for doing f all for a year and a half. Its a joke.

Theo is right to think about it. Its his future, he has to pay the bills somehow.

:haha: Give him a wage cut to £10k and he's still rolling in it then. Greedy overpaid wankers the lot of them.

[Cripps_orig]

:haha: Give him a wage cut to £10k and he's still rolling in it then. Greedy overpaid wankers the lot of them.

Overpaid for sure but not his fault. Blame the game, not the player

[cricketsi]

Overpaid for sure but not his fault. Blame the game, not the player

Blame the game, the agents, the players, the governing bodies, the fans, NQ, everyone. Still, you suggesting offering Theo only £75,000 a week is insulting is enough to make any normal person disgusted at him if that is his problem.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:haha: Give him a wage cut to £10k and he's still rolling in it then. Greedy overpaid wankers the lot of them.

:gp:

Footballers eh :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Blame the game, the agents, the players, the governing bodies, the fans, NQ, everyone. Still, you suggesting offering Theo only £75,000 a week is insulting is enough to make any normal person disgusted at him if that is his problem.

You missed the point. Wilshere gets 80k a week for doing f all for 2 years.

Theo gets offered 75k a week despite scoring and assisting through those 2 years

Would you be happy?

For the record, neither should be anywhere near that but again blame the game

[Olivier's xmas twist]

You missed the point. Wilshere gets 80k a week for doing f all for 2 years.

Theo gets offered 75k a week despite scoring and assisting through those 2 years

Would you be happy?

For the record, neither should be anywhere near that but again blame the game

Reportedly. Just like you said their was no eveidence he ask for 100K, where has it been said he was offered this much. or Jack was offered that much, its all paper talk atm.

[Cripps_orig]

Reportedly. Just like you said their was no eveidence he ask for 100K, where has it been said he was offered this much. or Jack was offered that much, its all paper talk atm.

Pretty much all we talk about on here is paper talk. Nobody knows what actually going on so paper talk is all we have otherwise this place would be dead

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Barcelona director of football Andoni Zubizarreta has rejected reports linking David Villa with a move away from Camp Nou in January.

Villa has been linked with a possible move to England with Arsenal thought to be keen on signing the Spanish international.

Villa, who missed six months of last season with a broken leg, has struggled to hold down a regular place in the Barca side since his return from injury fuelling talk of a move away when the transfer window reopens next month.

Zubizarreta insists they have no plans to offload Villa and that he remains a key part of their plans.

"In January we will keep Villa and it is important to remember that Barcelona is a club that habitually does not accept offers for star players in Janaury," Zubizarreta told Canal Plus.

"David is a player that brings goals and intensity to the team.

"Now he has recovered from a serious injury I believe that he is offering a good level on the field.

"It is normal that big players desire to play and this is perfect for the competition in the squad."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8354157/Barcelona-insist-they-have-no-plans-to-sell-Arsenal-target-David-Villa-in-January

On to the next one.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Why wouldnt they sign quick?

4 of the 5 know they wont get it any better than this. If they leave us, itll be too go to clubs such as WBA, Stoke etc. Hence they signed

Wilshere knows no team is going to touch him atm til he proves he can play week in and out and we stupidly give him 80k a week for doing f all. He'd be an idiot not to sign

and what excatly has theo done in 6 years?

[Marc Overmars]

and what excatly has theo done in 6 years?

Not that it says much but more than a player who only has 1 full season under his belt, at least.

[Cripps_orig]

and what excatly has theo done in 6 years?

A lot more than Wilshere

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2012/12/24/3625169/arshavin-close-to-sealing-4m-reading-move

Arshavin to Reading in a £4m deal apparently

Hes far better than Reading but good luck to him. Wenger killed him, an extremely talented player. Hope this is a lesson to all players thinking of coming to Arsenal

[Syn]

You guys are embarrassing. The nature of football contracts are that you don't get paid after your service. If you sign a 4 year contract, you get paid for what you are likely to do in the next 4 years. Of course looking backwards helps you to form that picture, but only to an extent. As for Wilshere having done nothing - that's just stupid. He has been excellent almost every time he has been on the pitch - bringing the kind of assurance and quality you can only get from special players.

I can't believe we are even trying to compare the players. Wilshere is different class. Jack is going to be - if he isn't already - the main man in the team for the next 5 years holding him to an 80k contract is a massive bargain. I think Theo is a very effective player and I desperately hope we hold on to him but knocking the contract offer to Wilshere is a attention-seeking crap and anyone with any sense knows this.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

You guys are embarrassing. The nature of football contracts are that you don't get paid after your service. If you sign a 4 year contract, you get paid for what you are likely to do in the next 4 years. Of course looking backwards helps you to form that picture, but only to an extent. As for Wilshere having done nothing - that's just stupid. He has been excellent almost every time he has been on the pitch - bringing the kind of assurance and quality you can only get from special players.

I can't believe we are even trying to compare the players. Wilshere is different class. Jack is going to be - if he isn't already - the main man in the team for the next 5 years holding him to an 80k contract is a massive bargain. I think Theo is a very effective player and I desperately hope we hold on to him but knocking the contract offer to Wilshere is a attention-seeking crap and anyone with any sense knows this.

Agreed. Jack is a class act and should he avoid injuries, he'll be our main man soon.

Walcott could have inked his deal already. I personally think he thinks too much of his ability. He and Jack are not of the same ilk and it would be wise of him to get a grip of this reality asap.

[Joker]

and what excatly has theo done in 6 years?

From 2008-2009 onwards (when Theo first became a regular starter) he's had 118 starts and contributed to 78 goals (through scoring and assisting) in that time. That's an assist or goal in every 1 and half matches. Pretty efficient tbh. I'm not saying Theo's a world-beater (or that he'll ever become world class) but given the relative lack of quality in our squad these days, we shouldn't be so indifferent about Theo leaving, acting as if it doesn't matter. He's one of the most productive players in our squad and losing him would be a serious blow. Perhaps 6 years ago, it wouldn't have mattered so much, but we're hardly blessed with an abundance of talent which makes it all the more imperative we keep our best players.

[Xhaka Can’t]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2012/12/24/3625169/arshavin-close-to-sealing-4m-reading-move

Arshavin to Reading in a £4m deal apparently

Hes far better than Reading but good luck to him. Wenger killed him, an extremely talented player. Hope this is a lesson to all players thinking of coming to Arsenal

What, you hope that players learn a lesson and don't come to Arsenal?

Put some thought into it man - that post is an embarrassment to you and this board.

[Grebbo]

You guys are embarrassing. The nature of football contracts are that you don't get paid after your service. If you sign a 4 year contract, you get paid for what you are likely to do in the next 4 years. Of course looking backwards helps you to form that picture, but only to an extent. As for Wilshere having done nothing - that's just stupid. He has been excellent almost every time he has been on the pitch - bringing the kind of assurance and quality you can only get from special players.

I can't believe we are even trying to compare the players. Wilshere is different class. Jack is going to be - if he isn't already - the main man in the team for the next 5 years holding him to an 80k contract is a massive bargain. I think Theo is a very effective player and I desperately hope we hold on to him but knocking the contract offer to Wilshere is a attention-seeking crap and anyone with any sense knows this.

:gp:

This thread and board have gone a bit stupid.

I really hope we sign a big name this window to bring a bit of excitement and hope to the club. I think the last exciting signing was Arshavin but look how that turned out.

I really wish we could go out and buy a van Persie :(

[Cripps_orig]

What, you hope that players learn a lesson and don't come to Arsenal?

Put some thought into it man - that post is an embarrassment to you and this board.

Shit players, yes. Wenger type players, for sure. Quality players are welcome though

[Özim]

I really hope we sign a big name this window to bring a bit of excitement and hope to the club. I think the last exciting signing was Arshavin but look how that turned out.(
You're living in dreamland if you think this is going to happen to be honest, we're sitting in 4th place where we want to be and all the players we were linked with are now pretty much unavailable, apart from that clown Stoppila whatever his name is....we may well sign him.

[Cripps_orig]

Think someone mentioned it before but Jack is on 80k a week for doing f all.

If as expected he goes on to be awesome and the time come around again for contract talks, he will expect well over 100k a week. Probably even double than what hes on. We wont pay that and he will leave. All of that stems from this ludicrous decision to give him 80k a week now.

The board/Wenger dont have a clue

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Agreed. Jack is a class act and should he avoid injuries, he'll be our main man soon.

Walcott could have inked his deal already. I personally think he thinks too much of his ability. He and Jack are not of the same ilk and it would be wise of him to get a grip of this reality asap.

Yep, scored one hatrick vs Croatia and the media made his head big, and he seems to have lived off that.

[Cripps_orig]

Theo seems to be the most down to earth footballer ever. The amount of shockers his haters have had about him is beyond belief. Cant have a go at his on pitch stuff so they went to the money. Thats been blown out of the water so now its his big head :haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Theo seems to be the most down to earth footballer ever.

He might seem it, don't mean its true. Im sure Fred West Seemed like a nice bloke once.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Theo seems to be the most down to earth footballer ever. The amount of shockers his haters have had about him is beyond belief. Cant have a go at his on pitch stuff so they went to the money. Thats been blown out of the water so now its his big head :haha:

No Ach, the money part is still submerged. All his demands have been met in recent times except his compensation package.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

What, you hope that players learn a lesson and don't come to Arsenal?

Put some thought into it man - that post is an embarrassment to you and this board.

http://i43.tinypic.com/1ekk5x.jpg

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2012/12/26/3628321/wenger-i-will-only-sign-exceptional-players-for-arsenal-in

:doh:

Looks like we can rule out any signings then

[Özil's Panoramic View]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2012/12/26/3628321/wenger-i-will-only-sign-exceptional-players-for-arsenal-in

:doh:

Looks like we can rule out any signings then

No surprises there really.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Didn't he say that weeks ago too?

[Özim]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2012/12/26/3628321/wenger-i-will-only-sign-exceptional-players-for-arsenal-in

:doh:

Looks like we can rule out any signings then
Yeah he's reeling out the exceptional player nonsense again, it's a precursor to him not signing anyone of note, the pressure is off him now as we're in the top 4 and it's really all he cares about.

[Cripps_orig]

David Villa is not leaving Barcelona despite a renewed interest shown by English club Arsenal.
Full story: Marca

FFS

[Özil's Panoramic View]

FFS

Again, no surprises here really.

Only real surprise is if we (by we I mean the **** faced board and manager) don't sell Theo come january.

[Marc Overmars]

We will only sign exceptional/super/super, super/top/top, top quality.

[Injury Time]

:ilt:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

We will only sign exceptional/super/super, super/top/top, top quality.

In that case, neither Messi or CR7 have a chance of ever wearing an Arsenal shirt.

Ballon d'or winner(s) :haha:

Us :bow:

[Gervinho's Forehead]

:ilt:

[-Xs-]

So he's gone from super super super players to exceptional?

Unfortunately, his transfer record of late indicates he has a few troubles spotting either...

[Gervinho's Forehead]

gearbox :ilt:

[Cripps_orig]

Newcastle striker Demba Ba, 27, has admitted he would like to play for boyhood idols Paris Saint-Germain. The Senegalese player is being tracked by Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and QPR.
Full story: Metro

Reading's billionaire owner Anton Zingarevich wants to sign Andrey Arshavin, 31, from Arsenal in January as part of the Royals' bid to stave off relegation from the Premier League.
Full story: Daily Mail

Looks like we wont get Ba

Good luck to Arshavin

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

if wenger seriously thinks this squad doesnt need strengthening then he deserves the sack on that decision alone.

[Cripps_orig]

How can Wenger not see the weaknesses in the squad?

An experienced quality keeper to be number 1 or at worst to challenge Ches as none of the 3, 4 if you count Martinez are good enough.

A CB as Mert and Verm are our only decent pair and Verms been off form.

A left back who doesnt get injured all the time

A DM to protect the defence which Arteta fails miserably at.

A creative midfielder to help make goals which Arteta fails miserably at

A striker as Giroud, Gervinho and Chamakh are not of sufficient quality.

We wont get all of that for sure but get some now and get the rest in the summer and the title is ours next season. However Wenger is in it for the money so it will be going in to his pockets and not the team

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

forget that

a new manager with half a brain and we'd probably mount a decent challenge for the title.

[Marc Overmars]

Lewandowski linked with a move to United. Do they really need another striker?

Also talk of Ronaldo returning in the summer because he's unhappy at Madrid. :sick:

[Cripps_orig]

Napoli have turned down an offer of £45m for Uruguayan striker Edison Cavani who has been linked with Chelsea, Manchester city, Liverpool and Arsenal.
Full story: The Times

Sure as hell wasnt us who bid £45m

Probably bid £4.5m

Wenger :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

At least we didn't waste our time bidding £45 million.

[Cripps_orig]

BRIAN McDERMOTT has distanced Reading from reports linking them with a swoop for Andrey Arshavin.
Arshavin, 31, is out in the cold at Arsenal and would fit McDermott’s requirement of signing “players with Premier League experience”.
But the Royals boss insists the Russian is unlikely to end up playing alongside countryman Pavel Pogrebnyak at the Madejski.
McDermott said: “At this time of year you hear lots of rumours — and I have heard that one.
“But I don’t think so.”
With Reading second from bottom in the Premier League, McDermott admits the need for new recruits has never been greater.
But the Royals have no intention of breaking the bank in a bid to avoid relegation to the Championship.
McDermott added: “If we could bring in two or three players that could make a difference, it would be useful to the squad.
“We don’t generally deal in big prices. We try to get players that are available.
“I’d like to bring in two or three with a little bit of experience at the level.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4714712/Brian-McDermott-plays-down-move-for-Andrey-Arshavin.html#ixzz2GHT052z9

Good news

[McNamara That Ghost...]

"I like Demba Ba, yes. If you ask me 'do we sign Demba Ba?' I say no."

WUMger. :bow:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Congratulations on signing Ba then.

And apparently Holtby will leave in the summer :popcorn:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

WUMger. :bow:

1st time he's being truthful in however long.

January signings :rose:

This thread :haha:

[Özim]

Every player we were supposedly interested in is being ruled out one by one :lol: looks like no quality will come in in January, sad that all it takes is a handful of wins (some lucky) against lowly opposition to change the way the manager is thinking.

[Cripps_orig]

ANDREY ARSHAVIN (aged 31, forward) Arsenal
Started brightly but his form has deteriorated dramatically. Fallen down the pecking order and has been restricted to substitute appearances.
May move back to his native Russia.

NANI (26, winger) Manchester United
Has not produced his best form this season and reports suggest he has fallen out with manager Sir Alex Ferguson because of his contract demands.
Arsenal, Zenit and Juventus have all expressed interest.

DEMBA BA (27, striker) Newcastle United
Despite the club's inconsistent performances this season, the Senegal man has excelled and a £7m release clause remains in his contract.
Arsenal could stump up the fee for him.

CHARLIE AUSTIN (23, striker) Burnley
The former bricklayer is now a prolific goalscorer, scoring 23 for his club in all competitions so far this season.
Arsenal have been monitoring the Englishman.

VICTOR WANYAMA (21, midfielder) Celtic
Has been stalling over the offer of a contract extension. Showed strong, skilful and poised displays in this season's Champions League.
Manchester United, Manchester City and Arsenal have been linked.

FERNANDO LLORENTE (27, striker) Athletic Bilbao
The Spain target-man has been frozen out since he rejected a contract extension. Athletic have one last chance to stop him leaving for nothing.
With six months remaining on his contract, Juventus lead the race, ahead of Arsenal.

MOUSSA SISSOKO (23, midfielder) Toulouse
This energetic midfielder has become very important for Didier Deschamps' France in recent months. His contract runs out in the summer.
Newcastle or Arsenal may tempt Toulouse to part with him early with a £10m offer.

DAVID VILLA (31, striker) Barcelona
Having made a good recovery from a broken leg, the prolific forward has become dissatisfied with his marginal role at the Camp Nou.
Arsenal and AC Milan are among those interested in a loan.

BENAT (25, midfielder) Real Betis
The classy Spain playmaker, currently on a modest salary, is struggling to agree a contract extension.
A £16m move to Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal or Wolfsburg would give him a big raise.

STOPPILA SUNZU (23, centre-back) TP Mazembe
One of Zambia's star players at the last Africa Cup of Nations and claimed to have received interest from Arsenal, Chelsea and Bolton.
German clubs have made enquiries. Work permit issues prevented a move to Reading early in his career.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20521275

Players linked to moves concerning us

Few Pub Teamers in there and some quality players which we can disregard so Pub Teamers it is. That Austin dude and that Celtic nobody are likely

[Cripps_orig]

Arsene Wenger is hoping the fact that he sold striker Robin van Persie, 29, to Manchester United last summer will help him land 26-year-old winger Nani from Sir Alex Ferguson's side.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal are still chasing Rennes midfielder Yann M'Vila, 22, despite a deal collapsing in the summer.
Full story: Metro

:lol: if only football was that simple

If it means the end of Arteta, go for it

[Master Splinter]

Charlie Austin :bow:.

Must Get.

[Master Splinter]

Crooknapp on his January plans:


"There's no point signing players for the sake of it."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20860936

:haha:

[-Xs-]

How long have we been trying (supposedly) to get M'villa? Give it a rest rags, we are not, have not, nor will ever be signing this player.

We wont be buying anyone of note if at all; wenger already sees champs league as attainable with the current squad, ergo, no need to invest.

[Cripps_orig]

Lescott available for £8m

Worth a bid?

Hes better than Kos, Djo and Toto

[Gervinho's Forehead]

I don't fancy having the the klingon looking jellytot lescott at Arsenal.

[Injury Time]

I don't fancy having the the klingon looking jellytot lescott at Arsenal.

:handbags:

[Cripps_orig]

I don't fancy having the the klingon looking jellytot lescott at Arsenal.

Tbf we do have other ugly fucks so he wont feel out of place

Giroud, Arteta etc :sick:

[Cripps_orig]

Sir Alex Ferguson has told Manchester United's Portuguese midfielder Nani, 26, that he does have a future at Old Trafford despite being a target for Arsenal, Tottenham and Juventus.
Full story: The Mirror

Another one we can cross off the list

[Özim]

Yeah let's be honest, we're not likely to sign anyone that will make any difference are we, we've just had a good mini run of games and Wenger doesn't like spending money unless it's on unknown cheap players.

[Cripps_orig]

Sneijder is available apparently for £11m

Brilliant player and if Wenger persists with his no actual DM in midfield then we should get Sneijder in and put him as the deep lying play maker ala Pirlo.

Would also mean the end of Arteta so all the more reason

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

out:

santos
chamakh
squillaci
wenger

in:
defensive midfielder
winger
llorente
klopp

[Cripps_orig]

Baines, Fellaini, Sneijder, Llorente and a keeper but i cant think of any who are available and are quality but the 4 named there, if we get them, 4th is ours

[Grebbo]

Left back is a must. Santos is a loon and Gibbs is back up at best.

Theo being played as a central striker is interesting as before this I'd have said signing a striker was a sure thing, but now I'm not so sure.

The team is certainly lacking world class talent all over the pitch but it's whether we can/will sign world class talent. If just 'good' players are available in Jan then what's the point? We have lots of 'good' players but hardly any 'great' ones.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... The ONLY difference between Arsenal and Man U/City is the quality in the final third. They have an abundance of quality where as we look very thin. Man U's defence is just as shit as ours and their central midfield is worse. However, their attacking third is amazing. If only RVP was available to buy!

The only way we're going to improve drastically is by buying an RVP/Aguero but you need to spunk £30m+

[GP]

Bet the farm on Falcao.

Go big or go home.

[Marc Overmars]

Newcastle agree a 5m fee for Debuchy.

Made in England. :coffee:

[Syn]

Newcastle agree a 5m fee for Debuchy.

Made in England. :coffee:

Another good signing (on paper, at least).

Pardiola plays the Championship Manager role a lot better than most. He gets these capable UEFA-cup quality players at good bargains.

[Marc Overmars]

Graham Carr. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ed Chamberlain just said on SS1 that representatives of Ba will meet with Chelsea tonight.

:rose:

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah just mentioned it on TalkSport

Excellent buy for them

FFS

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ed Chamberlain just said on SS1 that representatives of Ba will meet with Chelsea tonight.

:rose:

Can't fault him. The chap is definitely seeking an upward move, and we're not buying, so.....

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Paves the way for Falcao to us though tbf.

[Newguy]

I know it will be hard for Ba to turn down the money from chelsea, but i can see him being an adebayor...he's not the marquee signing that the Chelsea owner craves

[GP]

I know it will be hard for Ba to turn down the money from chelsea, but i can see him being an adebayor...he's not the marquee signing that the Chelsea owner craves

He's just replacing Sturridge, so in that respect he's a massive upgrade.

[Maestro]

I know it will be hard for Ba to turn down the money from chelsea, but i can see him being an adebayor...he's not the marquee signing that the Chelsea owner craves

Surely Ba is slightly, just a tad more humble. Adebayor is a certified arrogant ****.

[hobson's choice]

I know it will be hard for Ba to turn down the money from chelsea, but i can see him being an adebayor...he's not the marquee signing that the Chelsea owner craves

Why exactly are you comparing him to Ade, what exactly has Ba done to warrant a comparison to him at all?

[Marc Overmars]

Considering Torres is their only striker bringing Ba in is a shrewd move tbf.

Time for Falcao to come home.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Considering Torres is their only striker bringing Ba in is a shrewd move tbf.

Time for Falcao to come home.

With Charlie going AWOL:- :gp:

[Marc Overmars]

Charlie. :lol:

I remember him.

Nice guy.

[GP]

Charlie :bow:

2nd best black poster GW ever had.

2785th overall.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Charlie :bow:

2nd best black poster GW ever had.

2785th overall.

Again, on Charlie's behalf:- :racist:

:lol:

[Newguy]

Why exactly are you comparing him to Ade, what exactly has Ba done to warrant a comparison to him at all? no i don't mean his character, more the way he'll be surplus to requirements once the more glamorous players become available.
He may go for the chance, and to be fair hes not getting any younger and he has a dodgy knee apparently, so i do understand but id hate to see him stuck on the bench come August because abramovich got falcao (or an equivalent).

[GP]

Former Palace player Tom Soares (or someone pretending to be him) has tweeted Wilfred Zaha congratulation him on his move to Arsenal.

Seems legit.

[Grebbo]

I really hope we haven't spunked our budget on Zaha.

[Marc Overmars]

Zaha. :bow:

Arsenal GHELs. :bow:

[Injury Time]

I really hope we haven't spunked our budget on Zaha.
Net profit post Sagna and Theo sales, don't worry the Board and WUMger won't spunk the budget silly :console:

[Cripps_orig]

Real Madrid and former Liverpool midfielder Xabi Alonso, 31, is considering a return to the Premier League.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Must Get

[Marc Overmars]

It would kill Ramzi.

[GP]

It would kill Ramzi.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUY1J8KizU

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea had an unproductive meeting with Ba's representatives according to SSN.

[Power n Glory]

Forget Ba. We should sign up Theo, we have Giroud whose in good form, if things were to get tight we could play Podolski up front and I'm pretty sure he's capable of banging in goals.

We need a DM and another winger.

[fakeyank]

Forget Ba. We should sign up Theo, we have Giroud whose in good form, if things were to get tight we could play Podolski up front and I'm pretty sure he's capable of banging in goals.

We need a DM and another winger.

:gp:

Theo is off though.. if he stays, that'll be a miracle. We might as well stop playing him tbh.

[Power n Glory]

It makes no sense to sell Theo for peanuts or allow him to walk on a free and then sign someone else and pay around £70k - £90k in wages. It's sensless. If it's about money then it makes no sense to sign a new striker. We'd end up spending millions in fees/ agent fees plus wages when a fraction of that total sum could have been used to sigh Theo up. Cutting your nose to spite your face.

[LDG]

It makes no sense to sell Theo for peanuts or allow him to walk on a free and then sign someone else and pay around £70k - £90k in wages. It's sensless. If it's about money then it makes no sense to sign a new striker. We'd end up spending millions in fees/ agent fees plus wages when a fraction of that total sum could have been used to sigh Theo up. Cutting your nose to spite your face.

Agreed.

Though, in an age where player power is at it's peak, we should also respect the club for being able to say no. We can only speculate what the figures being talked about are, but one would assume we are saying what Theo is asking for is too high.

Despite the stupidity of paying crap like Bendtner and Co. silly money, we have to draw the line somewhere and stand up to merceneries.

Walcott may be reasonable (as much as a greedy footballer can be these days), we don't know. But Whilst this should be put to bed, I don't advocate paying Wally any more than he deserves. At some point you have to stop spreading your arse cheeks for these little shitbags and say no. No matter how costly it may be on the football side.

We've made a rod for our own backs in some ways. But if he is demanding too much, then surely we have the right to refuse those demands?

[GP]

Agree with LDG.

The only reason he hasn't signed is obviously about the money. If the difference between our offer and his demands was relatively small, I'm sure a deal would have been worked out, so you have to assume that he's asking for wages way in excess of what we're willing (or able) to pay.

The only other option is that he just doesn't want to stay. In which case, fuck him.

[Power n Glory]

Agreed.

Though, in an age where player power is at it's peak, we should also respect the club for being able to say no. We can only speculate what the figures being talked about are, but one would assume we are saying what Theo is asking for is too high.

Despite the stupidity of paying crap like Bendtner and Co. silly money, we have to draw the line somewhere and stand up to merceneries.

Walcott may be reasonable (as much as a greedy footballer can be these days), we don't know. But Whilst this should be put to bed, I don't advocate paying Wally any more than he deserves. At some point you have to stop spreading your arse cheeks for these little shitbags and say no. No matter how costly it may be on the football side.

We've made a rod for our own backs in some ways. But if he is demanding too much, then surely we have the right to refuse those demands?

Reports say he is holding out for around £100k a week. The difference between that and £75k a week is £1.3m a year. How can we not afford an extra £1.3m a year? It makes no sense to let him walk on a free and then pay around £20m for a new player plus wages and fees. Plus we are not an island. If you want a a top striker, they won't come cheap. The type of players we require aren't cheap and if we still think what we offer is good enough we will continue to bleed players.

[Joker]

Reports say he is holding out for around £100k a week. The difference between that and £75k a week is £1.3m a year. How can we not afford an extra £1.3m a year? It makes no sense to let him walk on a free and then pay around £20m for a new player plus wages and fees. Plus we are not an island. If you want a a top striker, they won't come cheap. The type of players we require aren't cheap and if we still think what we offer is good enough we will continue to bleed players.

The club probably think paying him the extra £1.3m would be giving in to player power. Like any business, our owners hate it when the workers get one over them because in their minds it opens the floodgates and makes it harder to depress wages in the future.

[Power n Glory]

Reports out of Chelsea are saying Demba Ba talks broke down because he wanted over £120k a week.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Reports out of Chelsea are saying Demba Ba talks broke down because he wanted over £120k a week.

That's small change for them though really!

Esp with their "stars" on 200-250k a week.

[Marc Overmars]

If I was going to leave a club where I'm loved and playing reguarly, for Chelsea, I'd want some serious money as well.

[Power n Glory]

It's small change to Chelsea but puts things in perspective. Reports saying he wanted £83k a week at Newcastle but they won't offer that.

How much would he want if he came to us? £90-£100k maybe?

[Gervinho's Forehead]

It's small change to Chelsea but puts things in perspective. Reports saying he wanted £83k a week at Newcastle but they won't offer that.

How much would he want if he came to us? £90-£100k maybe?

I really don't like how inflated footballers wages are! No one needs that much money a week! But as a Football club we need to realise the only way we're gonna attract players and keep the ones we already have is to pay the market rate, or it will only start to compound are descent into a very average team.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2012/12/31/3639321/arsenal-table-10m-offer-for-adrian-lopez

Rather have Villa

[LDG]

Reports say he is holding out for around £100k a week. The difference between that and £75k a week is £1.3m a year. How can we not afford an extra £1.3m a year? It makes no sense to let him walk on a free and then pay around £20m for a new player plus wages and fees. Plus we are not an island. If you want a a top striker, they won't come cheap. The type of players we require aren't cheap and if we still think what we offer is good enough we will continue to bleed players.

I hear ya. But like I say, we don't know the figures. There must be some reason the deal is not being done. I'm sure we're not that daft!

Without knowing what theo's priorities are we can't speculate. He said is was about playing up top. He's got that. So it's now money. And I assume we've offered a decent package...it can't be that low surely. If it was taking the piss, why would they still be negotiating with the club?

He's already gone, IMO, and unless we offer 125k + which is what he'll get as a free agent, we're fucked.

And this time, it's not exactly our fault. As i understand a substantial offer was on the table some time ago.

They've played the game, and won (if they think money is the be all and end all).

We'll just find someone else to plug the gap. We always do...

[Globalgunner]

Walcott is not worth 100k pw, not in real terms anyway. In the psuedo reality world of Chelsea et al maybe but even they are beginning to realise that the numbers no longer add up. Moreover, why should he be the highest earner at the club?. Is he now our Marquee player that defines the club as Henry did?. I dont think so. I think Wilshire is being groomed for that role. We are in familiar territory as this is what Adebayor also did and he was a real jackass and went about it like a mongrel until he was sold. I dont see Wally pulling the same strop but I have no doubt that its all about money. There is no way Wenger will pencil a contract that stipulates a striker role for him so what is the point if it cant be put in writing. This all about money, plain and simple. We have been foolish with what we pay players for so long. Even as recently as last week and the rubbish contracts dished out to Ramsey, Gibbs and co. If Walcott wants to leave then so be it, he is replaceable.

[Cripps_orig]

Replaceable by who?

Anyone we buy, we have to pay the amount of wages we refuse to pay Theo and we have no one in the squad who can

[Marc Overmars]

That's what I don't get. If we're going to get someone in as good (or better than) Theo then we'll need to pay top dollar anyway. Better the devil know and all that.

[AKBapologist]

Apparently we've submitted a £10m bid for Lopez.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2012/12/31/3639321/-

sent from a fone

Edit, beaten by ach

[Gervinho's Forehead]

but is reluctant to step up his interest in Newcastle United forward Demba Ba due to injury concerns

Yet he's stuck with diaby, rosicky and we only had rvc for one full season :lol:

[Power n Glory]

I hear ya. But like I say, we don't know the figures. There must be some reason the deal is not being done. I'm sure we're not that daft!

Without knowing what theo's priorities are we can't speculate. He said is was about playing up top. He's got that. So it's now money. And I assume we've offered a decent package...it can't be that low surely. If it was taking the piss, why would they still be negotiating with the club?

He's already gone, IMO, and unless we offer 125k + which is what he'll get as a free agent, we're fucked.

And this time, it's not exactly our fault. As i understand a substantial offer was on the table some time ago.

They've played the game, and won (if they think money is the be all and end all).

We'll just find someone else to plug the gap. We always do...

:lol: We are that daft.

Cripps just posted up a story on the actual Theo contract thread and it's worth checking out. As suspected, the club haven't offered an improved deal to what was originally offered and rejected. I remember a story cropping up a couple of months back that said new contract talks were set with Ox, Jack and Jenkinson but Theo wasn't scheduled for talks. There have been no negotiations and if the club were interested to thrash out a deal, they'd have scheduled the next round of talks at the same time they scheduled talks for the Jack and co. They've tried to play hardball with his people and it hasn't worked. They were late in when offering deal and it looks like there has been a 'take it or leave it' sort of approach to this whole deal. It's obvious Walcott wasn't happy with what was offered so Wenger tried to strong arm him and keep him on the bench. I remember Wenger doing the same thing with Edu, Wiltord and Lauren when they were kicking up a fuss about their contracts. This isn't the first time we've been here which is why I reckon the club can be that daft.

There is too much shit from the past we can dig up to see that we're being stupid. Look back to the Flamini situation. He wanted around £70k a week and we wouldn't budge. He argued that we'd have to pay that sort of money for his replacement plus a transfer fee which was a valid point but we weren't budging and lost him on a free. What happens next? We struggle along for a few seasons with Denilson trying to take over (the cheap option) a complete failure at that which cost us badly on the field and we lost momentum. Took us a while to really push for the title like how we saw in Flamini's last season. Then along comes Alex Dimitri Song Billong! :bow: He blossoms into the DM role and becomes what Flamini was and more. It took us a while to get there but we eventually did. But what happens? He asks for £75k a week, similar numbers to what Flamini was asking for and he gets sold on! This club never learns. Funny enough, we're paying Arteta £75k a week to play that role and he's not a proper DM and it's showing this season. Why should an outsider that hasn't grown with the club earn that money? It's not even his natural position. It's daft!

Talks are stalling because we're being stubborn and silly as usual. It's a cycle. If you go back a few years when Theo extended his last contract, he was getting pissed off because they kept giving him the run around and wouldn't schedule talks with his people. He warned the club that they shouldn't just assume that he'd sign anything put in front of him and they shouldn't take him for granted. A deal was eventually thrashed out but we're at the same point again with these contract talks. They've left it late again, offered a take it or leave it approach and tried to strong arm him and his people. I've only heard one source (Arseblog) say that Theo's people have pulled out of talks or that the club have been trying to get him to sign for the last 18 months. It's already been established that he's a company man these days and can't be trusted. On the other hand, I've heard two different pundits say that we've been slow to offer Theo a deal and his agents have been wondering when the next round of talks will be scheduled. Now consider the fact that we didn't schedule anything with his people when Jack and co signed a deal, there must be some truth in what's being said. If Theo wants a better deal, why would he not want to hear what the club are offering?

Again, you just have to look at the past with the Song situation, Flamini, Edu..etc, Theo's last round of contract talks with the club and how he's been treated this season. This isn't anything new and believe the club have to change the way we operate. I didn't even mention the Cole situation and that bastard has been consistent for club a country for years. Regardless of him being a complete idiot, most players are, we can't go on like this because I guarantee we will be having the same sort of conversation about Wilshere and Ox next.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal have offered £10m for Atletico Madrid striker Adrian Lopez. This fails to meet the £14.7m release clause in the 24-year-old's contract though.
Full story: Goal.com

Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur will fight it out for the signature of Crystal Palace's £10m-rated forward Wilfried Zaha, 20.
Full story: The Guardian

We are so cheap :haha:

No thanks

[KSE Comedy Club]

Why not just offer them £15m and be done with it?

This is why our transfers drag on for fucking weeks, cause we spend too long haggling over fuck all!

[Cripps_orig]

ARSENAL outcast Johan Djourou is wanted by German club Hannover.
The Swiss centre-back, 25, has played just two League Cup games this season.
Hannover president Martin Kind said: “We have money and we’re ready to do business.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4720450/Arsenal-flop-Johan-Djourou-wanted-by-Germanys-Hannover.html#ixzz2Gg9E0ui9bye

[Gervinho's Forehead]

bye

Fuck I didn't even know this guy was still with us :haha:

Perhaps if we got rid of shit this this that are taking £60,000 a week then maybe, just maybe we might have some money spare to pay higher wages to the players we want to keep.

[Globalgunner]

bye

He`ll be due a testimonial in a few weeks, probably a large loyalty bonus too. Better sell.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1st January means transfer muppet time. :scarf:

Come on Falcao. :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Hey Maccy, is Adrian any good?

[GP]

Silly season is in full swing!

RF week is on!

[Marc Overmars]

Crooknapp is after Joe Cole. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hey Maccy, is Adrian any good?

Well, he's good yeah but I don't think he has proven to be anything much higher than that but then I suppose he has Falcao in the side too. He can score all kinds of goals, granted quite a few have been complete tap-ins but that's no bad thing. Obviously, he has decent ability on the ball.

Scored an absolute belter against Valencia last season I think, less said about the fuck-up against Chelsea this season the better.

[GP]

So, how many world-class players are we going to sign this month? 5?

I'm going with 5.

:scarf:

[LDG]

Wallclock is odds on with the bookies to sign a new contract :popcorn:

Will be like a new signing!

[Marc Overmars]

Wouldn't surprise me if he did sign now, given his performances and getting the fans on side. The club know they'll be panned if he walks.

He'll become our top earner without a doubt, if he signs that is.

[Syn]

Wallclock is odds on with the bookies to sign a new contract :popcorn:


Are you just saying that to piss me off?

What are the odds for him leaving the club? There you will know what the bookies really think.

Me irate as fuck.

[LDG]

Are you just saying that to piss me off?

What are the odds for him leaving the club? There you will know what the bookies really think.

Me irate as fuck.

2's and 3's depending where you look for transfer to Chelsea or Utd.

10-1 bar those.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Crooknapp is after Joe Cole. :lol:

Please god, let this happen!

That'd pretty much be Walcott's wages covered too.

:pray:

[Syn]

2's and 3's depending where you look for transfer to Chelsea or Utd.

10-1 bar those.

so they're not even taking straight bets on whether Theo will leave Arsenal in 2013?

They know he's gone. As do we.

In other news, I'll offer anyone evens that we will sign Iniesta this January.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are set to end their interest in Crystal Palace's Wilfried Zaha, 20, because 23-year-old Theo Walcott is on the verge of signing a new contract.
Full story: talkSPORT

Southampton manager Nigel Adkins is determined to keep hold of 17-year-old full-back Luke Shaw, who has attracted interest from Arsenal.
Full story: ESPN

Good

Hope hes successful

[Injury Time]

but zaha is a little bit winger, theo is a little bit forward, room for both shirley? Oh unless entire budget spent to secure theo hmmm

[Marc Overmars]

but zaha is a little bit winger, theo is a little bit forward, room for both shirley? Oh unless entire budget spent to secure theo hmmm

Sell to buy tbh.

[Cripps_orig]

CHELSEA and Arsenal have both snubbed the chance to sign Wesley Sneijder.
And Inter Milan even made it clear they are willing to let him go on a FREE.
Sneijder, who cost the Italians a massive £24million when he signed from Real Madrid in 2009, want the midfielder, 28, off their wage bill.
Agents acting on Inter’s behalf have been contacting top Premier League clubs but none have shown any real interest in the Dutch star .
The big problem is Sneijder’s huge £200,000-a-week salary.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4721333/Wesley-Sneijder-transfer-Chelsea-Arsenal-scared-off-by-huge-wage.html#ixzz2GpBsQxIT

:doh:

[Marc Overmars]

Hope we can get rid of Fat Fuck this month because he's out of contract in the summer. Recoup just a little bit on an absolute failure of a signing.

[Letters]

but zaha is a little bit winger, theo is a little bit forward, room for both shirley? Oh unless entire budget spent to secure theo hmmm
zaha is a little bit rock and roll, theo is a little bit country.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:doh:

tbf we dont need him.

we have arshavin who is still class.

there was a stat the other day floating on the web whereby he's scored or made an assist every 46 minutes. simply incredible.

clearly everything goes through him. he was magnificent in the 7-5 vs reading. created absolutely everything.

if wenger had heard of the word rotation we'd probably have better creativity in the final 3rd. we have arshavin, rosicky and cazorla fighting for the AM role but wenger decides to play arshavin on the wing and rosicky seems to have gone awol.

a manager who persists with ramsey but doesnt give an experienced player like arshavin a chance :haha:


get arshavin tied down asap. cant be letting another quality player go.

[Marc Overmars]

Fat Fuck won't be getting another deal with us that's for sure.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Now Newcastle have accepted a bid from Chelsea for Ba so he won't be included in their squad for tonight. :rolleyes:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

i expect nothing more from a board that continually sells its best players.

let arshavin go and watch ramsey, gervinho and co turn even shitter.

less competition for places will make them even more complacent.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

so chelsea selling sturridge for £12m and bringing in ba for £7m.

i say thats a good deal. make profit and improve quality.

anyone who says ffp isn't affecting teams like chelsea are clearly mistaken. usually they'd spunk £20m on a player when things arent going to plan but now they're going for the cheaper more shrewd deal.

letting frank and ash leave next summer too. cutting that wage bill down.

wenger and board hoped ffp would be the kingpin to help us turn into a super club. well thats fallen flat on its arse.

on top of that this season spurs are winning games they'd usually have drawn/lost last year.

bye

[Marc Overmars]

I don't know how release clauses are set but Ba is worth at least twice as much as 7m.

[Cripps_orig]

tbf we dont need him.

we have arshavin who is still class.

there was a stat the other day floating on the web whereby he's scored or made an assist every 46 minutes. simply incredible.

clearly everything goes through him. he was magnificent in the 7-5 vs reading. created absolutely everything.

if wenger had heard of the word rotation we'd probably have better creativity in the final 3rd. we have arshavin, rosicky and cazorla fighting for the AM role but wenger decides to play arshavin on the wing and rosicky seems to have gone awol.

a manager who persists with ramsey but doesnt give an experienced player like arshavin a chance :haha:


get arshavin tied down asap. cant be letting another quality player go.

Id definitely keep Arshavin for sure. As you say, hes still got it. Quality player but for some reason known only to Wenger, the Russian isnt played despite being better than Gerv and Ramsey

But Sneijder can play in the Arteta role and do it much more effectively. He wouldnt be the king of the 5 yard sideway passes.

[Cripps_orig]

So Liverpool have bought Sturridge

Chelsea are on the verge of getting Ba

And its only the 2nd day of the Transfer window.

Whats Wenger doing? Sitting on his arse counting his money as the club goes down the shitter

[Gervinho's Forehead]

So Liverpool have bought Sturridge

Chelsea are on the verge of getting Ba

And its only the 2nd day of the Transfer window.

Whats Wenger doing? Sitting on his arse counting his money as the club goes down the shitter

:gp:

Yep he'll say he's observing the waiting period or some shit and that there wasn't super quality to go for, :ilt:

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal’s current longest serving player Johan Djourou, could leave the club on loan in January after Hannover 96 confirmed interest in the Swiss defender.
The 25-year-old has made just two appearances for the Gunners this season and has fallen behind Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny and Per Mertesacker in the pecking order.

Staying and going? Johan Djourou could be on his way out while Walcott could stay
Hannover coach Jorg Schmadtke, told German newspaper Bild: ‘I am able to confirm that we are very interested in bringing Johan Djourou to the AWD-Arena.
‘He is on our short list of names and there have been some concrete talks with Arsenal going on.
‘We do intend to loan the player first until the end of the season and we will make a decision on his future.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2256061/Theo-Walcotts-representatives-meet-Arsenal-contract-talks.html#ixzz2GpwnkPzU
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Dont send him out on loan ffs

They wont buy him after he stinks the place up

[Marc Overmars]

Djourou. :lol:

He got a contract extension last year. :doh:

[selassie]

Dont send him out on loan ffs

They wont buy him after he stinks the place up

The problem we have is that the likes of Djourou, Chamakh and Bendy are on such healthy wages that clubs are frightened to buy them and also maintain their salary expectations.

This is one of the reasons why we can't shift the dross. We have a lot of it too...and for all our talk of being financially prudent, it's ludicrous that we have around 6 players who are surplus to requirements yet command 60K per week. Sad thing is they are all rubbish players too.

I can see Gervinho going the same way, Arsene should swallow his pride and sell the boy this summer before his stock is really low.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Djourou. :lol:

He got a contract extension last year. :doh:

We really have clowns running the club esp when they let things like this happen.

[BlindFaith_8]

According to Talkshite.

Arsenal could make a renewed bid to sign long-standing target Mario Gotze after reports in Germany revealed that the Borussia Dortmund playmaker has a £30m release fee clause in his contract.

Gotze, 20, is regarded as the brightest young player in German football after helping Dortmund to back-to-back Bundesliga titles.

Arsenal offered the German champions £32m for the midfielder in the summer of 2011 but the bid was rejected.

Gotze signed an improved deal with Dortmund in March, tying him to the club until 2016.

And according to BILD, the new contract includes a buyout clause of £30m - £2m less than the figure Arsenal offered last year.

But the clause expires next July and interested clubs are required to submit a written offer by the end of April 2013.

Bundesliga heavyweights Bayern Munich are also long-term fans of the 20-year-old and could rival Arsenal for his signature.