Luis Suarez thread

[Penguin]

I think we are arguing semantics here. If someone goes round calling someone a "Bl*ck Bastard" or "Wh*te Sh*t" or whatever then you are a racist, or are you saying that someone can make such comment(s) but not be deemed racist? The purpose and intent of such a comment is to mock someone of a "different colour" or "race", that to me is racism.

Where do you draw the line? Stating that you just made a racist remark but are not racist is a ridiculous cop out. Making such comment is an action that is meant to offend.

Moreover, you don't have to be part of Klu Klux Kan or the BPN to be a labelled and viewed as a racist.

Your examples are not in anyway comparable to the Suarez comment either.

So by your definition, Arsenal fans who have called spurs fans yids are racists. Or do you think it's more acceptable to demean Jewish people than black people? Were they racist or just ignorant?


Surely just because he made a racist comment doesn't mean he hates people of other races does it...which is surely the very definition of a racist. Much like JT, how could he be a racist but his best mate is Ashley Cole for example?

People make comments based on people's differences to further add insult...if someone is fat call them a fat ****, ginger...ginger **** etc. Doesn't mean you hate them because of these features.

I'm not saying he's not a racist as we don't really know that, but I don't think it means he is one either.
:gp:

Regardless of what Suarez said, that doesn't mean he hates other races or thinks he's superior to them. I've heard people call Scholes a ginger c*nt for years, even I've done that. It's essentially the same thing, the only difference is that it's more socially acceptable than racist comments. But even if I did say that I have absolutely nothing against ginger people at all.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Regardless of what Suarez said, that doesn't mean he hates other races or thinks he's superior to them. I've heard people call Scholes a ginger c*nt for years, even I've done that. It's essentially the same thing, the only difference is that it's more socially acceptable than racist comments. But even if I did say that I have absolutely nothing against ginger people at all.

you do, it's time to admit it. charlie can't sleep at night, just tell him the truth.

[Niall_Quinn]

Are the mods just going to allow posters to openly state they have "absolutely nothing" against gingers? Please act or I'll take this up with the hosting company.

[LDG]

Regardless of what Suarez said, that doesn't mean he hates other races or thinks he's superior to them. I've heard people call Scholes a ginger c*nt for years, even I've done that. It's essentially the same thing, the only difference is that it's more socially acceptable than racist comments. But even if I did say that I have absolutely nothing against ginger people at all.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn117/luvmegooners/new_united_shirt.jpg

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Are the mods just going to allow posters to openly state they have "absolutely nothing" against gingers? Please act or I'll take this up with the hosting company.

agreed. we need to take this issue up with the hosting company. we cant keep letting people get away with calling scholes ginger and sanogo a legless, hop-a-long, wannabe white postman.

[LDG]

agreed. we need to take this issue up with the hosting company. we cant keep letting people get away with calling scholes ginger and sanogo a legless, hop-a-long, wannabe white postman.

Sanogo,
Sanogo,
Sanogo and his black and white team

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01376/pat_1376598c.jpg

[Power n Glory]

Fuck me this shit is getting old/tiresome.

Yes Suarez is a **** but he become our **** soon and if he can score 30 a season it could mean we win something.

So fuck it, I'm passed caring tbh.

Self interest trumps all. This is a minor issue but you can understand on wider issues why certain atrocities and tragedies are prolonged.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Sanogo,
Sanogo,
Sanogo and his black and white team

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01376/pat_1376598c.jpg

bit harsh. where does ryo fit in? poor old yellow..

[fakeyank]

That makes no sense. The majority of people who are racist don't believe they are, and more often than not don't see anything wrong in their way of thinking. I'm not saying Suarez is racist btw, I just think he's a dickhead.

I love your name :lol:

[LDG]

Ignore fakeyank, Bury De Bwoy, he comes on to all the newbies.

[Kano]

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn117/luvmegooners/new_united_shirt.jpg
is that john jensen?

[bunsco]

So by your definition, Arsenal fans who have called spurs fans yids are racists. Or do you think it's more acceptable to demean Jewish people than black people? Were they racist or just ignorant?


:gp:

Regardless of what Suarez said, that doesn't mean he hates other races or thinks he's superior to them. I've heard people call Scholes a ginger c*nt for years, even I've done that. It's essentially the same thing, the only difference is that it's more socially acceptable than racist comments. But even if I did say that I have absolutely nothing against ginger people at all.


so in summary its OK to say racist comments then.

[Niall_Quinn]

so in summary its OK to say racist comments then.

Depends on who it's said to. If somebody made a racist remark to me I wouldn't give a shit. Other people react differently, up to them.

[milla]

Depends on who it's said to. If somebody made a racist remark to me I wouldn't give a shit. Other people react differently, up to them.

Shut up fatty. :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

Shut up fatty. :coffee:

That's not a racist remark, that's weightism which is vile and says everything about you tbh.

[milla]

That's not a racist remark, that's weightism which is vile and says everything about you tbh.

:upset:

[Bury Da Bwoy]

Ignore fakeyank, Bury De Bwoy, he comes on to all the newbies.

lol nah it's all good.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3hNrxNgDJM

^^^^

That's where my name comes from

*shrugs*

[Penguin]

so in summary its OK to say racist comments then.
..?

In summary you didn't read the whole discussion :coffee:

[GP]

http://i.imgur.com/9iHIoyH.jpg

[Power n Glory]

Fuck me this shit is getting old/tiresome.

Yes Suarez is a **** but he become our **** soon and if he can score 30 a season it could mean we win something.

So fuck it, I'm passed caring tbh.

Yep, this is sort of attitude UEFA/Fifa have which is why they'll come down lightly on the Serbian national team for incidents that almost spark a mass brawl but then put a heavy fine on someone that breaks a sponsorship rule, like the Bendy boxer short incident.

Self interest is key. In this case, we'll overlook the racism case with Suarez because he'll bring obvious benefits to the team. For Fifa and UEFA, a ban on a nation means revenue loss.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yep, this is sort of attitude UEFA/Fifa have which is why they'll come down lightly on the Serbian national team for incidents that almost spark a mass brawl but then put a heavy fine on someone that breaks a sponsorship rule, like the Bendy boxer short incident.

Self interest is key. In this case, we'll overlook the racism case with Suarez because he'll bring obvious benefits to the team. For Fifa and UEFA, a ban on a nation means revenue loss.

Not a single person here has condoned what Suarez said. That's the key.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Yep, this is sort of attitude UEFA/Fifa have which is why they'll come down lightly on the Serbian national team for incidents that almost spark a mass brawl but then put a heavy fine on someone that breaks a sponsorship rule, like the Bendy boxer short incident.

Self interest is key. In this case, we'll overlook the racism case with Suarez because he'll bring obvious benefits to the team. For Fifa and UEFA, a ban on a nation means revenue loss.

Oh jesus!

So what do you want to do then?

Mass protest outside the emirates? Fuck all good that will do, the club doesn't listen to the fans anyway.

Wait until we buy him then boo and jeer him everytime he plays/gets the ball so he ends up shit and we piss away £40m+ ???

Well?

Honestly, what is the fucking point of going over and over and over it when ultimately it isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference!?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Not a single person here has condoned what Suarez said. That's the key.

Yep, exactly.

I wonder if anyone can actually quote or highlight a post where any member here has actually said he was right to say what he said/bite someone and that they are happy and content with it.

[Niall_Quinn]

We could flail ourselves during the half time interval.

[Niall_Quinn]

Suarez was right to say what he said and to bite people and I'm happy with it.

[Kano]

53 pages :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

footballers ahve fucked us around for to long now, they've been dicks to us when we've been nice to them. its time to chagne that, lets be dicks ourselves, get dicks in to play for us and be properly hated.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Suarez was right to say what he said and to bite people and I'm happy with it.

:lol:

Actually, I agree.

After all he was just letting them know he was there.

[KSE Comedy Club]

We could flail ourselves during the half time interval.

We've pretty much done that every season for the last 8 years tbh :coffee:

Or was being bent over and shafted?

I cant remember...

[KSE Comedy Club]

footballers ahve fucked us around for to long now, they've been dicks to us when we've been nice to them. its time to chagne that, lets be dicks ourselves, get dicks in to play for us and be properly hated.

If I didn't know any better, it sounds like your saying you want to see dicks playing with other dicks :shrug:

Or just dicks being played with.

[KSE Comedy Club]

53 pages :lol:

Have we signed him yet?

[GP]

Smash a players leg to bits: Poor bloke, he's not that kind of player.

Give someone a little nibble: Burn him!

Football is fucked. Sign him up, I'll sing his name loud and proud.

[Power n Glory]

Not a single person here has condoned what Suarez said. That's the key.

UEFA and FIFA don't condone racism either. I never said they did and I'm not saying that's what's happening on here either. The point is, self interest is why people now feel a need to explain his actions, put it into context or now have the view that it was blown out of proportion and we shouldn't make too much of a fuss about it, when a few months back, most would have just written him off as a cheating, diving, racist with Hannibal Lecter like tendencies. Not many here were quick to question the popular media consensus on Suarez. Most would just reinforce it when mentioning him and prod away like how we do with John Terry and the kicking racism out of football image with Diaby.

Suarez and his actions aren't all that fascinating. It's the switch in perspective from some Arsenal fans now that he's being linked with a potential move here, that is more interesting. We were fine to be swept along by the media frenzy when he wasn't associated with us but now that he's linked, we're now trying to moralise. That's the interesting part and it's why I make the FIFA/UEFA comparison. You can sort of understand why Sep Baltter has said silly things in the past or why a blind eye was turned for certain ugly incidents without condoning it. FIFA and Sep have their own goals and agendas to worry about, they have their own self interests, money and revenue mostly, so actually doing something about racism in football was never high up on the priority list. Our priority as Gooners, it's winning back the title and signing a quality player. That trumps his sketchy past for most. Wanting him at the club isn't the problem, the revisionism is.

This all links back to yesterday's discussion. Racism isn't some sort of top down ideology past down from the ruling class to the lower. It works on an individual level and who you can identify with. The atrocities and 'real racism' you mentioned yesterday, it only works if the majority remain passive. You're right to say this Suarez situation is a storm in tea cup, but it's a small example of how we operate. Self interest comes naturally.

[Niall_Quinn]

You said "past" :pal:

[Harland]

footballers ahve fucked us around for to long now, they've been dicks to us when we've been nice to them. its time to chagne that, lets be dicks ourselves, get dicks in to play for us and be properly hated.

I fully agree

[Kano]

UEFA and FIFA don't condone racism either. I never said they did and I'm not saying that's what's happening on here either. The point is, self interest is why people now feel a need to explain his actions, put it into context or now have the view that it was blown out of proportion and we shouldn't make too much of a fuss about it, when a few months back, most would have just written him off as a cheating, diving, racist with Hannibal Lecter like tendencies. Not many here were quick to question the popular media consensus on Suarez. Most would just reinforce it when mentioning him and prod away like how we do with John Terry and the kicking racism out of football image with Diaby.

Suarez and his actions aren't all that fascinating. It's the switch in perspective from some Arsenal fans now that he's being linked with a potential move here, that is more interesting. We were fine to be swept along by the media frenzy when he wasn't associated with us but now that he's linked, we're now trying to moralise. That's the interesting part and it's why I make the FIFA/UEFA comparison. You can sort of understand why Sep Baltter has said silly things in the past or why a blind eye was turned for certain ugly incidents without condoning it. FIFA and Sep have their own goals and agendas to worry about, they have their own self interests, money and revenue mostly, so actually doing something about racism in football was never high up on the priority list. Our priority as Gooners, it's winning back the title and signing a quality player. That trumps his sketchy past for most. Wanting him at the club isn't the problem, the revisionism is.

This all links back to yesterday's discussion. Racism isn't some sort of top down ideology past down from the ruling class to the lower. It works on an individual level and who you can identify with. The atrocities and 'real racism' you mentioned yesterday, it only works if the majority remain passive. You're right to say this Suarez situation is a storm in tea cup, but it's a small example of how we operate. Self interest comes naturally.
of course it does and you are as culpable as all of us when it comes to accepting blissful ignorance when it suits you.

so the best course of action here is to get off the moral high horse, put the beast down and realise you are preaching to yourself as much as anyone else.

people will be far more affected by stephen lawrence than some footballing spastic who said something wrong because these millionaires are not within our realm. who really cares? football or sport isn't real. we pay to watch it but the divide is so extreme that it may as well be on a TV even if we watch it 'live'. we pay, they perform, then we all fuck off back to something else. it's theatre. they even have their own yearly oscars. not a pat on the back from the public. but a huge love in every year.

we all look after ourselves, which isn't a bad thing. it's encoded within us. even the religious among us have an aim to do good so they can enter what they believe to be a good place after death. but self interest isn't all there is because just like this whole pathetic, blown out of proportion suarez-is-he-supposedly-racist-or-just-a-fucking-idiot case, the answer rests very clearly in the murky grey area.

[KSE Comedy Club]

of course it does and you are as culpable as all of us when it comes to accepting blissful ignorance when it suits you.

so the best course of action here is to get off the moral high horse, put the beast down and realise you are preaching to yourself as much as anyone else.

people will be far more affected by stephen lawrence than some footballing spastic who said something wrong because these millionaires are not within our realm. who really cares? football or sport isn't real. we pay to watch it but the divide is so extreme that it may as well be on a TV even if we watch it 'live'. we pay, they perform, then we all fuck off back to something else. it's theatre. they even have their own yearly oscars. not a pat on the back from the public. but a huge love in every year.

we all look after ourselves, which isn't a bad thing. it's encoded within us. even the religious among us have an aim to do good so they can enter what they believe to be a good place after death. but self interest isn't all there is because just like this whole pathetic, blown out of proportion suarez-is-he-supposedly-racist-or-just-a-fucking-idiot case, the answer rests very clearly in the murky grey area.
:gp: And there we have it, now can we move on please?

[Power n Glory]

of course it does and you are as culpable as all of us when it comes to accepting blissful ignorance when it suits you.

so the best course of action here is to get off the moral high horse, put the beast down and realise you are preaching to yourself as much as anyone else.

people will be far more affected by stephen lawrence than some footballing spastic who said something wrong because these millionaires are not within our realm. who really cares? football or sport isn't real. we pay to watch it but the divide is so extreme that it may as well be on a TV even if we watch it 'live'. we pay, they perform, then we all fuck off back to something else. it's theatre. they even have their own yearly oscars. not a pat on the back from the public. but a huge love in every year.

we all look after ourselves, which isn't a bad thing. it's encoded within us. even the religious among us have an aim to do good so they can enter what they believe to be a good place after death. but self interest isn't all there is because just like this whole pathetic, blown out of proportion suarez-is-he-supposedly-racist-or-just-a-fucking-idiot case, the answer rests very clearly in the murky grey area.

If you have't followed the debate with me and NQ then you're not going to get it and will probably be offended. This is a response and answer to his earlier post about the root of racism. He's looking further out and points to the state and big governments, I'm saying it starts at an individual level and you have to look closer to home. As said, we all look after ourselves and you're right to say it's encoded within us and that's what I'm pointing at.


people will be far more affected by stephen lawrence than some footballing spastic who said something wrong because these millionaires are not within our realm. who really cares?

Not necessarily. As NQ was pointing out, there are even bigger issues happening right now that nobody bats an eyelid at.

You talk a lot about football tribalism a lot and it's part of the game that makes me cringe sometimes. It may sound preachy, but too bad.

[Niall_Quinn]

But Wenger said: “We are not close to signing Suarez... or anyone else. We are ready to do quick deals but all the transfers do not depend only on us. We are prepared to wait. “It looks very unlikely that we will have anyone before the Emirates Cup next week because everyone is on tour at the moment and it’s very difficult to get in touch with people.”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5036160/Arsene-Wenger-Luis-Suarez-deal-is-NOT-close-but-we-can-wait.html#ixzz2aERQp1qr

We used our tour to delay and now we are using every else's. Good stuff. Then there will be the Emirates Cup which is huge so we'll need to focus on that instead of distracting transfers. But then what? It could get very tricky in the latter half of August.

[Injury Time]

We used our tour to delay and now we are using every else's. Good stuff. Then there will be the Emirates Cup which is huge so we'll need to focus on that instead of distracting transfers. But then what? It could get very tricky in the latter half of August.
Chumps league qualifiers, then little bit big travel on plane to Fulham Raiders away, then mauling at home by Spuds, Bentner & Chmack recalled and we charge on to claim the title from Citehs grasp with a Milner hatrick:trophy:

[LDG]

We used our tour to delay and now we are using every else's. Good stuff. Then there will be the Emirates Cup which is huge so we'll need to focus on that instead of distracting transfers. But then what? It could get very tricky in the latter half of August.

They need to find someone to sell first, silly.

[-Xs-]

Pfft, Wenger playing the waiting game? It's was all bollox in the first place. Unwilling to pay over 23mil for Higuain, but going to splash out over twice as much on a player who's still facing match bans and what not? Horseshit. These ****s manage to swindle the fans every summer.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Pfft, Wenger playing the waiting game? It's was all bollox in the first place. Unwilling to pay over 23mil for Higuain, but going to splash out over twice as much on a player who's still facing match bans and what not? Horseshit. These ****s manage to swindle the fans every summer.

:lol: horseshit

awful cowshit.

[selassie]

So by your definition, Arsenal fans who have called spurs fans yids are racists. Or do you think it's more acceptable to demean Jewish people than black people? Were they racist or just ignorant?


:gp:

Regardless of what Suarez said, that doesn't mean he hates other races or thinks he's superior to them. I've heard people call Scholes a ginger c*nt for years, even I've done that. It's essentially the same thing, the only difference is that it's more socially acceptable than racist comments. But even if I did say that I have absolutely nothing against ginger people at all.

No Penguin, by my definition, if you go up to someone of another colour/race and call them an offensive name mentioning colour then that is Racism. Whilst the "Yid" statement is racist, it is not done in the same context, I.E. it's a chant to offend fans of a team, are we now saying that every supporter of Spurs is jewish? Of course if some of those said fans are jewish then it is offensive to them and racist....but in the general context of things you can't compare the Suarez incident with Arsenal fans shouting "Yids" at Spurs fans.

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree because we clearly see things differently.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Arsenal have turned their attention to Liverpool striker Luis Suarez, 26, after top target Gonzalo Higuain left Real Madrid to join Napoli.
Full story: Metro

:lol:

Good ol' Metro. Fingers on the pulse...

[Rors]

Arsenal have turned their attention to Liverpool striker Luis Suarez, 26, after top target Gonzalo Higuain left Real Madrid to join Napoli.
Full story: Metro

:lol:

Good ol' Metro. Fingers on the pulse...

:haha: Are Liverpool "plotting a move for Watford star John Barnes" too?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:haha: Are Liverpool "plotting a move for Watford star John Barnes" too?

To join up with our exciting young talent, Billy Liddell.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Steven Gerrard believes Liverpool's season depends on keeping hold of Luis Suarez - and says a move to Arsenal "doesn't make sense at all".

Suarez remains heavily linked with a move away from Anfield with Arsenal having two bids rejected for the Uruguay international striker, the last one of £40million plus £1 which they believed would trigger a sale clause.

Liverpool have always maintained they merely had to inform the player of offers of that magnitude and have been steadfast in stating Suarez is not for sale.

Anfield captain Gerrard certainly does not want to see the 26-year-old leave - particularly to a club he sees as a direct rival in the race for Champions League football.

In an interview in the Independent, he said: "It's difficult every season to finish in the top four positions because of the power the likes of Manchester City, Chelsea and Manchester United have got at the moment.

"it all depends on what decision Luis Suarez makes in the next few weeks. If we lose him then the challenge becomes even more difficult. It's that simple"
Steven Gerrard

"The likes of us, Tottenham and Arsenal are fighting to sneak into the other place that's available.

"Where we sit actually right now, it all depends on what decision Luis Suarez makes in the next few weeks. If we lose him then the challenge becomes even more difficult. It's that simple.

"If he goes to Arsenal, it obviously makes our season that little bit more difficult.

"It strengthens them an awful lot and they are our rivals for a top-four position. From the club's point of view it doesn't make sense at all, no matter how much money is put on the table."
Invest

Speaking to the Daily Telegraph, Gerrard emphasised Liverpool's need to invest rather than sell.

"This club needs to make one or two big signings if we are to compete for the top four - and keep Suarez," he continued.

"Alongside Gareth Bale, Luis is the third best player in the world after Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Luis and Bale are the two hottest properties out there at the moment.

"When you're in that position, you're going to get all kinds of teams wanting to pull you away, especially when you are at a club not in the Champions League.

"It's nothing to do with the British media [criticising Suarez]. Knowing the guy as I do that's probably the thing on his mind: wanting to be in the Champions League.''

Although Gerrard does not like the idea of Suarez leaving for North London, the midfielder would accept his team-mate leaving for Spain.

The 33-year-old continued: "If he was to go abroad to a Madrid or Barcelona I would totally understand it. He's a South American. He's good enough to play in either of those teams.

"From a family point of view, it's where they all want to be. Javier Mascherano, Xabi Alonso, some of the top players I've played with - their dream was to play for Real or Barcelona.

"If I was him I would wait for one of those two clubs because I think he's good enough to play for them."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8849559/

The way Stevie Me is talking, you get the impression Suarez has indicated he is open to joining us, even if he discredits us at the same time.

[Özim]

3rd best player in the world, please, what total BS.

The hype that goes with some of these players, he's had one decent season in England and suddenly he's one of the 3 best players in the world. :lol:

[LDG]

3rd best player in the world, please, what total BS.

The hype that goes with some of these players, he's had one decent season in England and suddenly he's one of the 3 best players in the world. :lol:

Come on, this is Gerrard talking. The biggest flop in English football since the rest of the biggest flops in English football.

[Letters]

Come on, this is Gerrard talking. The biggest flop in English football since the rest of the biggest flops in English football.You should write professionally, tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Top of the Flops. :bow:

[Özim]

Come on, this is Gerrard talking. The biggest flop in English football since the rest of the biggest flops in English football.
Very true, has to be said though PL players do get hyped ridiculously (not just by the English media), let's not forget before last season Suarez had scored just 20 odd goal for Liverpool, takes a lot more than that to become one of the best.

He's very talented for sure, but the way people talk about him is ridiculous, he's not the 1st player to get 30 goals in a season and won't be the last. A certain Mr Adebayor did it once upon a time and look at him now.

[LDG]

You should write professionally, tbh.

professionally, tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

professionally, tbh.

You typed that, get a pen and do it properly you fucker.

[LDG]

You typed that, get a pen and do it properly you fucker.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Citizen_smith.jpg

[Grebbo]

AFCamden


Arsenal have been told to up their bid for Suarez to £50m & Liverpool will sell. Suarez keeping quiet to allow #lfc to negotiate a fee.

[LDG]

AFCamdentown :haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Liverpool captain exaggerates worth and importance of Liverpool's best player whom he wants to stay shocker!

[Özim]

This Suarez thing is such a load of boll*cks, I could never see a scenario where he would sign for us.

Should have moved on to someone else by now, instead we're sitting on our fat f*cking arses waiting for the new season.

What a horrible little club we have become.

[JonasTC]

I still think the deal is on. Why else would the captain of the team go out and say it would be stupid of the club to sell him?

[LDG]

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/08/01/liverpool-agree-deal-to-sell-luis-suarez-arsenal-miss-out-formal-announcement-imminent/


:haha:

[Özim]

:lol:

[Özim]

Wasn't that the side that said we'd made a staggering £51 million bid as well?

[Munchies]

Just caught Ian Ayre on '92live' with Jim White, saying that Suarez will stay

[Ollie the Optimist]

Luis Suarez is refusing to give up on a £40million transfer to Arsenal after angrily claiming Liverpool AGREED to let him go.

Suarez's agent, Pere Guardiola, has told the Anfield giants that the striker is frustrated, wants to quit and feels let down over what he thought were promises to sell him if the Reds missed out on the coming season's Champions League.

Now, the Uruguay international is determined to force the issue as he wants to join Arsenal - while also secretly harbouring hopes that Real Madrid will come in for him.

The Gunners are prepared to wait on Suarez, their No1 transfer target, even though Liverpool have insisted he will not be sold to a Premier League rival.

It could now get ugly, as the transfer saga threatens to drag on until the August window shuts - and Suarez is no stranger to forcing his way out of a club.

He took his case to a Dutch tribunal when he moved from Groningen to Ajax in 2007.

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has insisted the 26-year-old has given up on the clause in his contract that was thought to oblige the Reds to sell if they received an offer in excess of £40m.

But it is understood that - despite not taking the issue of the clause to the Premier League - the Suarez camp still believes Arsenal's offer of £40,000,001 is enough to allow him to leave, and they have not abandoned the possibility of legal action to get him out of Anfield.

Liverpool insist the clause is "water-tight" and only requires them to inform Suarez that a club have made an offer of that value.

The Uruguayan's advisers, meanwhile, remain adamant that he should now be entitled to leave Anfield.

Suarez's people claim they met with Rodgers and the Liverpool hierarchy in June to discuss the player's future, after he insisted he wanted to leave.

Guardiola expressed Suarez's anger and said he wanted to quit if an offer came in from a big club which had qualified for the Champions League.

They claim Liverpool verbally agreed to negotiate if an offer of more than £35m came in and that while they would never sell to bitter rivals Manchester United, offers from big London clubs, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich would be entertained.

Some observers have questioned whether the Gunners count as a Champions League club yet as they must win a play-off tie next month - the second leg of which will be played less than a week before the transfer window closes - to reach the group stage after finishing fourth last season.

Suarez also says Liverpool promised to tell him about any negotiations and now feels let down because they have rejected an offer from Arsenal.

His camp they also believe there has been contact from Real and Chelsea, which has not been passed on by the Reds.



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tongiths mirror says saurez claims that liveprool agreed to sell him to CL club if they bid over 35 million.



just pay the 50 million and get it done. stop fucking around

[Niall_Quinn]

tongiths mirror says saurez claims that liveprool agreed to sell him to CL club if they bid over 35 million.



just pay the 50 million and get it done. stop fucking around

Or get a decent striker and a top class midfielder for the same money, either will do.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Or get a decent striker and a top class midfielder for the same money, either will do.

surprisingly level headed post there.....which holds a lot of weight.........we have 70 mil, now first big if is IF we aregoing to spend a bloody penny of it are we going to do almost all on one player.......I reckon Suarez is worth going for but does it leave us with much else? sawthe article about Eriksenand he would be a stealfor 16 but......

Pool bidding for Costa, should we read into that?

can see the Suarez thing dragging on for the rest of the summer and we all now we alsways f#ck things up at the end of the window

[LDG]

Or get a decent striker and a top class midfielder for the same money, either will do.

Yup.

Cesc please. Then a winger.

Will take another decent striker, but the above are more important.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wenger on Suarez: "I have never said we have made a bid. but i can tell you we have now. If we progress, we will inform you."

I'm not sure what the first part is about but the second part...:popcorn:

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm not sure what the first part is about but the second part...:popcorn:

He's thanking us for our interest in his affairs.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ah, thought he was joining in on Charlie appreciation day.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

chaz :bow:

[Grebbo]

Surely this isn't Brendan's wife??!! If it is then shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit no wonder he's so moody

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/05/article-0-1B235BEF000005DC-360_634x561.jpg

Arsene really does have the prettiest wife at home

http://img.cas.sk/img/4/gallery/669794_francuzka-raperka-sonia-tatar-arsene-wenger.jpg

##

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Surely this isn't Brendan's wife??!! If it is then shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit no wonder he's so moody

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/05/article-0-1B235BEF000005DC-360_634x561.jpg


Isn't that Gabriele Marcotti?

[Grebbo]

I think it's the bird from You've Been Framed

[GP]

Wow, she's, um, homely...

[The Emirates Gallactico]

yep that's his wife.

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/169061332-manager-brendan-rodgers-of-liverpool-poses-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QQFhm87410Nppw%2fVMV%2foDoiO H0FeBVURweQldVUbdqXTejiPqpzOhqrQA7lFTqDYew%3d%3d

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No wonder he has a portrait of himself and not her...

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Also explains this,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxCLkK9BWlg

[Grebbo]

No wonder he has a portrait of himself and not her...

:lol:

Shit the bed she's gross. I bet his phonebook is full of whores.

[Ollie the Optimist]

someone at espn today said liverpool have granted us permission to talk with suarez. cant imagine hes hugely reliable, but if this is true. to grant permission to talk to us must mean either htey have accepted a bid or are just about to and will sell to us

[Özim]

No.

[Ollie the Optimist]

what an excellent, well thought out and fascinating point that was.

[Xhaka Can’t]

http://img01.useloos.com/galleries/patrick/ironing/10.jpg

[Özim]

For some reason you still remain hopeful about this Suarez deal, I've told you before it will never happen, the sooner you accept that the less you'll be disappointed when it doesn't happen.

[Ollie the Optimist]

For some reason you still remain hopeful about this Suarez deal, I've told you before it will never happen, the sooner you accept that the less you'll be disappointed when it doesn't happen.

you say a lot of things about how everything will be shit and how much wenger is a prick. probably explains why i dont listen to you

[fakeyank]

you say a lot of things about how everything will be shit and how much wenger is a prick. probably explains why i dont listen to you

But he is right and has been right about majority of the things he has said in the last few seasons! :lol:

[Özim]

you say a lot of things about how everything will be shit and how much wenger is a prick. probably explains why i dont listen to you

Yeah well not far off am I, the team is pretty dire and the manager really doesn't have a clue.

It doesn't seem to matter how many times you get kicked in the face you'll still come back for more it seems.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yeah well not far off am I, the team is pretty dire and the manager really doesn't have a clue.

It doesn't seem to matter how many times you get kicked in the face you'll still come back for more it seems.

i guess thats what being a football fan is all about. doesnt matter how often my teams loses, how bad they play, when the next game comes along, ill either be there or watch it via a stream etc.

[Özim]

i guess thats what being a football fan is all about. doesnt matter how often my teams loses, how bad they play, when the next game comes along, ill either be there or watch it via a stream etc.
This is a bit different though, losing is one thing but the way this club acts by ripping off it's fans, feeding them false promises, lying to them all the time, ignoring their concerns whilst all the top people fill their pockets with cash is disgusting IMO.

That's not football, that's a massive p*ss take.

[Ollie the Optimist]

This is a bit different though, losing is one thing but the way this club acts by ripping off it's fans, feeding them false promises, lying to them all the time, ignoring their concerns whilst all the top people fill their pockets with cash is disgusting IMO.

That's not football, that's a massive p*ss take.

tbh if doesnt matter what they do. ill always go back. im pissed about our transfer poilicy so far, yet i booked a ticket for villa. if htey're playing, ill watch, cheer, shout. every game, no matter what they said in the summer

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Suarez has been left out of our game in Norway due to "injury".

Just buy this fucker and get him out of my club.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Suarez hasn't travelled with the Liverpool squad to Norway, with a *ahem* foot injury.

It's on!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Suarez has been left out of our game in Norway due to "injury".

Just buy this fucker and get him out of my club.


:lol:

I've moved on to synergy with MS and it's Sibbles instead now.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Suarez has been left out of our game in Norway due to "injury".

Just buy this fucker and get him out of my club.

Name change imminent then.

Taking suggestions?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:lol:

I've moved on to synergy with MS and it's Sibbles instead now.

It's undoubtedly a closer bond than you could ever have with Rors.

[Marc Overmars]

He's coming home. :scarf:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's undoubtedly a closer bond than you could ever have with Rors.

Rors. :lol:

Awlful McNamara.

[GP]

http://i.imgur.com/bnqA8uy.jpg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's amazing how Suarez, Bale and Wazza all have injuries at the same time and all are linked away with their respective clubs.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Sweepstake time. What time will Brendan Rodgers blame arsenals lack of class as reason for this injury

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Name change imminent then.

Taking suggestions?

I've taken suggestions for every name so far and they've either turned out to be crap or idiots and moved on pretty quickly.

Babel, NGog, Aqulaini, Suarez. I think that's them all.

I might just have to go with Spearing so that he finally goes too.

[Grebbo]

It's amazing how Suarez, Bale and Wazza all have injuries at the same time and all are linked away with their respective clubs.

Time to pray for Bendtner to have an injury

[Niall_Quinn]

I've taken suggestions for every name so far and they've either turned out to be crap or idiots and moved on pretty quickly.

Babel, NGog, Aqulaini, Suarez. I think that's them all.

I might just have to go with Spearing so that he finally goes too.

Downing seems sensible, you could even get the job done this summer.

[LDG]

Done deal at 45 Miwyun apparently.

I shall believe it, when I see it.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Done deal at 45 Miwyun apparently.

I shall believe it, when I see it.

wheres that from? i know its most likely bollocks, but is it from a twitter thing or an actual media outlet?

[LDG]

wheres that from? i know its most likely bollocks, but is it from a twitter thing or an actual media outlet?

Just heard the same thing from two different (and unconnected) people in the same day....probably smelly balls....

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Time to pray for Bendtner to have an injury

:lol:

We're never getting rid of that limpet.

[Ollie the Optimist]

:lol:

We're never getting rid of that limpet.

until next june when his contract expires


PARTY TIME :dance:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

until next june when his contract expires


PARTY TIME :dance:

We can't stop him turning up sadly.

[Niall_Quinn]

until next june when his contract expires


PARTY TIME :dance:

He'll have to accept £300 a week from Bognor. Knowing him he'll pack it into to become a modern artists and poet.

[Master Splinter]

WhoScored.com ‏@WhoScored


Adel Taarabt: Only Suárez (95) & Cazorla (86) completed more successful dribbles in the PL 2012/13 than Taarabt (83)

With Sir Jack back, Gnabry getting more games and Bernard coming home, we'll well and truly be the dribble kings.

Or running really fast head first into opposition players kings where Theo, Ox and GHELkinson are concerned.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Done deal at 45 Miwyun apparently.

I shall believe it, when I see it.

It took me three attempts to translate that.

Get ready to be astounded, frustrated and mystified pretty much every game.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It took me three attempts to translate that.

Get ready to be astounded, frustrated and mystified pretty much every game.

Are you new here?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Are you new here?

True.

Good luck. It'll be nice for him to be someone else's problem for a change.

In that vein, we've signed Nile Ranger, Lee Hughes, Marlon King and have Gazza on trial. Quiet times ahead...

[Master Splinter]

Having Costa and Aspas will make up for the loss of an exceptional nutter.

They might even surpass him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rodgers interview. :lol:

http://m.soundcloud.com/offtheball/brendan-rodgers-interview

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Rodgers interview. :lol:

http://m.soundcloud.com/offtheball/brendan-rodgers-interview

As far as I knew you bid £35m and then £40m+1. Where has the £40m and then a second with the +1 come from, which that seems to suggest was the case?

It's something I think Zimm has suggested as well.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I thought it was the former, too. Still think it is tbf.

[Grebbo]

I think the interviewer just made a mistake

[GP]

As far as I knew you bid £35m and then £40m+1.

Yes, that's correct.

The interviewer is wrong.

[LDG]

As far as I knew you bid £35m and then £40m+1. Where has the £40m and then a second with the +1 come from, which that seems to suggest was the case?

It's something I think Zimm has suggested as well.

I reckon it was £35m and it got some short shrift from your lot, and 40m was mentioned by "someone" as a release clause, and we made a point....I seriously think that bid was off the back of Liverpool's reaction to our first bid.

What othe reason would there be, for us to behave like twats.

Other than the fact we're a bunch of twats, that is.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I reckon it was £35m and it got some short shrift from your lot, and 40m was mentioned by "someone" as a release clause, and we made a point....I seriously think that bid was off the back of Liverpool's reaction to our first bid.

What othe reason would there be, for us to behave like twats.

Other than the fact we're a bunch of twats, that is.
Pretty much everyone in football is a twat anyway. Time to ramp up your twat levels given how you've been screwed over in the past, and we'll do exactly the same to whoever we buy from.

It's a twat eat twat world.

[Master Splinter]

and we'll do exactly the same to whoever we buy from.



Stoke :rose:.

[LDG]

It's a twat eat twat world.

Tell me about it.

Wait.

Meh.

Who am I kidding.

Nomnomnom.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Pervo.


The Telegraph has an interview with Suarez stating why he wants to join you.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Pervo.


The Telegraph has an interview with Suarez stating why he wants to join you.

Is it the Balti Pies?

[Niall_Quinn]

Is it the Balti Pies?

Not only those, he says Wenger is very good at selling players to Spanish clubs.

[GP]

Pervo.


The Telegraph has an interview with Suarez stating why he wants to join you.

http://i.imgur.com/bdnLwSf.gif

[Munchies]

http://i.imgur.com/bdnLwSf.gif

Wtf :lol:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Apparently he also has an "exclusive" interview with the Grauniad as well.

I guess he's got over the whole media thing then :rolleyes:

[GP]

Apparently he also has an "exclusive" interview with the Grauniad as well.

I guess he's got over the whole media thing then :rolleyes:

He basically took a shit on them when he thought he was leaving the country, now he's staying he's got to play nice.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Arsenal fans on Telegraph/Guardian website currently:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2d7ep8i.gif

[GP]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9819436cf1c62d1fe5f725ba18e0839c/tumblr_mldgcpdOzo1rsszvco1_500.gif

[Master Splinter]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9819436cf1c62d1fe5f725ba18e0839c/tumblr_mldgcpdOzo1rsszvco1_500.gif

Wish I'd had that for Mario Party.

[GP]

Wish I'd had friends...

[Munchies]

I'm guessing the site updates at 11 or 12 ?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wish I'd had that for Mario Party.

Which one?

[GP]

Which one?

4 was best.

[Ollie the Optimist]

suarez has said he wants to leave and join Arsenal.


holy fuck. this is actually going to happen now isnt it?

Wenger :bow:

[Maestro]

suarez has said he wants to leave and join Arsenal.


holy fuck. this is actually going to happen now isnt it?

Wenger :bow:

where's the soy for all this?

[GP]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-transfers-arsenal-target-suarez-2132028

Arsenal transfer target Luis Suarez tells Liverpool he won't play in any more pre-season games

[Ollie the Optimist]

Luis Suárez has pleaded with Liverpool to fulfil the promise they made a year ago and let him leave Anfield. The Uruguay striker insists that he is prepared to submit a written transfer request by the end of the week if the club continue to block his move to Arsenal. Speaking for the first time since Arsenal made a £40,000,001 bid for him, Suárez told the Guardian he believes that he has been left little alternative.

Suárez claims the club told him they would let him depart if they failed to qualify for the Champions League this season and that a clause in his contract allows him to leave should someone make a bid of more than £40m. He says he has the backing of the Professional Footballers' Association and that he his prepared to take the issue to the Premier League to force his exit and move to the Emirates before the transfer window closes on 2 September.

"Last year I had the opportunity to move to a big European club and I stayed on the understanding that if we failed to qualify for the Champions League the following season I'd be allowed to go," he revealed. "I gave absolutely everything last season but it was not enough to give us a top-four finish – now all I want is for Liverpool to honour our agreement."

At the heart of the battle is the "release" clause that was included in Suárez's new contract, signed last August. Liverpool have denied that the contract obliges them to sell to any club that more than £40m.

Arsenal were acting according to what they understand to be Suárez's contractual status and the Uruguayan last night again insisted that there is a formal agreement that he could go. "I have the club's word and we have the written contract and we are happy to take this to the Premier League for them to decide the case but I do not want it to come to that," he said.

"I don't feel betrayed [by Liverpool] but the club promised me something a year ago just as I promised them that I would stay and try everything possible to get us into the Champions League.

"They gave me their word a year ago and now I want them to honour that. And it is not just something verbal with the coach but something that is written in the contract. I'm not going to another club to hurt Liverpool."

The clause is sufficiently ambiguous to leave doubts over how the stalemate will be resolved. Suárez's camp saw £40m as the threshold price at which Liverpool would have to sell, something that was publicly revealed by Arsenal's £40,000,001 bid.

The bid, though, tested the clause and revealed that Liverpool saw £40m as the point at which they must start to negotiate, not the point at which they are obliged to sell. The PFA has been consulted about potential mediation in the search for a solution.

The letter of the law is one thing, the spirit of the law is another. Suárez clearly feels let down by what he sees as a broken promise. Nor does he speak lightly; the doubts continue over the best way to proceed. Suárez says he was reluctant to reach this point. But he believes that the message that has come out of Anfield has not always been entirely true and that being portrayed as someone who just wants out has not always been fair.

Brendan Rogers, the Liverpool manager, insisted that he had spoken to Suárez and publicly claimed that the Uruguayan understood and accepted the club's position. Those were remarks that surprised the striker when he saw them. The two men had indeed spoken but when they did Suárez made it clear that he wanted to go and felt that he was entitled to do so.

Liverpool fans argue that having supported him through thick and thin, mostly thin, they deserve greater loyalty. The club and most supporters backed him when he was charged with racially abusing Patrice Evra and biting Branislav Ivanovic. Walking away is no way to repay that. Two suspensions have led to two lengthy absences that have hurt his club – 18 games in total. He still has six games of a 10-match ban to serve.

And yet the reaction of fans over the past few days has been far from rejection, even now, even with his determination to depart so clear. Suárez played at Anfield on Saturday and took part in an open training session held at the stadium on Monday. Both times he was cheered by supporters. They appeared to have decided that they would do all they could to persuade him to stay. Nowhere would he be embraced like this.

But he disputes suggestions that he has lacked loyalty and says most fans would understand his position. His performances allow him to build a case: 51 goals in 96 appearances, 30 last season. In terms of talent, or commitment on the pitch, few doubt him. The problems have been elsewhere. He also notes that Liverpool could make an enormous profit on the £22.8m they paid Ajax for him in January 2011. Besides, loyalty cuts both ways and he was swift to paint his decision as a purely professional one.

"They defended me, just like I defended them on the pitch. The players have always supported me and I'm grateful for that. It's the same with the supporters. I got a great reception at the weekend and I am grateful. I don't think the supporters are angry – I think they understand a player when he has the ambition to triumph at the highest level.

"When you are at a club for as long as you are together you stick up for each other but that does not give the club the right to go back on their commitment."

Last summer Suárez turned down the chance to move to a Champions League qualifier, understood to be Juventus, and he is not prepared to wait another year.

"I'm 26. I need to be playing in the Champions League. I waited one year and no one can say that I did not give everything possible with my team-mates last season to get us there."

He continues: "It is not as if I am asking to move to a local rival. And I would not consider moving to a club outside the Champions League. I have made my desire to move known in private various times and now it feels like the time for me to make it public.

"I have to put my career first. People say Liverpool deserve more from me but I have scored 50goals in less than 100 games and now they could double the money they paid for me.

"Liverpool will always be special for me: my daughter was born here. [Last summer] was the moment to show my loyalty to Liverpool and I did. [Liverpool] gave me my chance in England and stood up for me throughout my ban. I know I have made mistakes in my time here but I have apologised lots of times. This is not about that. This is about the club having agreed to something both verbally and in the contract which they are now not honouring.

"People may accuse me of showing a lack of loyalty but last season we told Liverpool there was interest from a top European club but they told me: 'We've got a new coach and we're going to push for the Champions League.'

"I spoke with Brendan Rodgers several times and he told me: 'Stay another season, and you have my word if we don't make it then I will personally make sure that you can leave.'"

Now the story has changed. "Liverpool is a club with a reputation for doing things the right way," Suárez says. "I just want them to abide by the promises made last season. Some of [my team-mates] say to me: 'We cannot understand that if you have it signed that you can't leave.'"

But that is not the only story that has changed. Arsenal's interest and Suárez's apparent willingness to move to the Emirates sits uneasily with his previous insistence that the problem resided largely with the English media: London is in England too. Anonymity may prove easier in London than Liverpool but that is not an explanation Suárez offers for the contradiction. He instead suggests that it was merely the inevitable answer to an inevitable question. In any case, he says this is about football, not infamy.

"I was asked a question: 'Would I want to play for Madrid?' It's like anyone asked if they want to change jobs and move to a bigger company. Everyone aspires to the highest levels and all I did was give an honest answer: 'Yes, I would.' On the same day I gave that interview Pepe Reina said the same thing about Barcelona and nobody mentioned it. But if I do it then it means I am disrespecting Liverpool. It has always been the same: one rule for me and another for everyone else.

"I had just arrived in Uruguay where the press are very good to me because I am one of theirs," he continues. "They asked me about the press in England. What am I supposed to say? Of course I don't like the fact that my wife goes to the supermarket and there are photographers. But I realise that the press attention is the same wherever you go."

The bid from Arsenal stings, though. Suárez's response is simple: "My priority is Champions League football. This is about me doing what is right for my career at this moment in time.

"Right now the Premier League is the biggest and most important league. My record shows that I'm not the kind of player who wants to change clubs every season and I would have no problem playing in England for many more years. If we are just talking about the level of the football and the way the supporters are then it is an incredible league. Any player in the world at the moment would like to play here."

But it is a different league, the Champions League, that hangs heaviest: this is a theme to which he returns often. "I feel I have done enough to be playing in the Champions League at this stage of my career," he says. "Now there is an option for me to do that and I want very much to take it. I went a long time at Ajax without playing many games in the Champions League. I am ambitious, I want to be there."

Liverpool continue to be adamant that the Uruguayan is not for sale and have scoffed at the offer made by Arsenal. But Suárez's decision to speak out, a decision he has been contemplating for a while, may change the situation.

The club's principal owner, John W Henry, spoke at a supporters' event in Oslo, where Liverpool play Valerenga on Wednesday without Suárez who is injured. His comments followed a statement which denied he and Tom Werner were negotiating the sale of the club. "I don't know why people ask us if we are selling the club or the best players, because we are not," Henry said. "We like to buy stuff, not to sell."

Rodgers, answering questions before Liverpool's game in Norway, responded to more questions about Suárez by insisting the club's position had not changed. "Luis picked up an injury in the open training session at Anfield yesterday and along with a number of other players we decided this game was too much of a risk for him. He will have a scan.

"I will tell you what I have been saying all summer — he is an incredible player. We have had a couple of bids from one club which has been no where near the valuation of what he is worth in this market, so there is no change in that. We have no intention of selling one of the best players in the world to one of our rivals. Luis is very much a Liverpool player and there is no real value in discussing it unless someone comes close to the valuation.

"Luis is a wonderful player, but this is a bigger project than just him."

and heres teh interview.

hes coming home lads. we are actually going to get him. glorious stuff

[Master Splinter]

Which one?

The first one. It destroyed thumbs and palms.

Actually, there was one bit in Starfox Adventures which was just a test of how quick you could stab the A button like a maniac. Now that was shit game design.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4 was best.

Gamecube. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The first one. It destroyed thumbs and palms.

Actually, there was one bit in Starfox Adventures which was just a test of how quick you could stab the A button like a maniac. Now that was shit game design.

2 destroyed the hand also.

Crane game. :yikes:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

suarez has said he wants to leave and join Arsenal.


holy fuck. this is actually going to happen now isnt it?

Wenger :bow:

Ollie, calm down! :whistle:

He doesn't actually say that, not directly anyway. He says that staying in England would be no problem and also he doesn't want to play for any team outside of the Champions League. It's also not like he is asking to go to a local team.

[Munchies]

Transfer window ends Sep 2 now ?

[Master Splinter]

RAWK closed their Arsenal thread. :rose:

BOOM!!!

:haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

RAWK closed their Arsenal thread. :rose:

BOOM!!!

:haha:

I don't get that place. They don't seem to know how a forum works.

[Ollie the Optimist]

suarez also says there is a written clause in the contract that he can leave if liverpool fail to get top four.



Zimm - you've had a shocker son

[GP]

The first one. It destroyed thumbs and palms.

Actually, there was one bit in Starfox Adventures which was just a test of how quick you could stab the A button like a maniac. Now that was shit game design.

Nintendo sent out gloves because it gave people blisters. Good times.

[Master Splinter]

#FreeSuarez

[GP]

I wonder if SiBbles has got any of those t shirts spare...

[Munchies]

Suarez is joining, now add Fellaini Wenger

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I wonder if SiBbles has got any of those t shirts spare...

I'm having myself a great big bonfire in the garden...

[GP]

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/henry.jpg

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/97967277.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F5DFABFAE74B75E31C 778E52D2E5C62E85CA6888AFE79B7F2E

[Munchies]

Lol if we get knocked out of the champions league

[Özim]

suarez also says there is a written clause in the contract that he can leave if liverpool fail to get top four.



Zimm - you've had a shocker son
:lol: and you believe that nutter.

Scum of a footballer, he's a taker a scumbag on the pitch and who knows probably a liar as well so that he can force a move from a club who have supported him (reminds me of Adebayor but worse).

He's never coming here in a month of Sundays anyway, papers reckon he's waiting on Madrid as he fancies a move there.

I reckon you've had a shocker believing all this sh*t and thinking we have a chance of signing him, I wouldn't want this scumbag at the club anyhow, he'd only screw us over in a year or two, that's what players like him do.

[Özim]

Suarez favours move to Madrid:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/transfer-news-luis-suarez-favours-switch-to-real-madrid-over-arsenal-8748553.html

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/luis-suarez-wont-give-up-on-move--but-its-real-madrid-he-wants-to-join-not-arsenal-8748263.html

He's really not coming, it's really not happening is it? :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

:lol: and you believe that nutter.

Scum of a footballer, he's a taker a scumbag on the pitch and who knows probably a liar as well so that he can force a move from a club who have supported him (reminds me of Adebayor but worse).

He's never coming here in a month of Sundays anyway, papers reckon he's waiting on Madrid as he fancies a move there.

I reckon you've had a shocker believing all this sh*t and thinking we have a chance of signing him, I wouldn't want this scumbag at the club anyhow, he'd only screw us over in a year or two, that's what players like him do.

first it was wenger will never ever spend 40 million on a player

then it was well i dont want us to blow our budget on one player

then it was clause never exsisted, it was all bollocks.

now its suarez is a scumbag and i dont want him


Zimm :haha: shocker all round

[GP]

first it was wenger will never ever spend 40 million on a player

then it was well i dont want us to blow our budget on one player

then it was clause never exsisted, it was all bollocks.

now its suarez is a scumbag and i dont want him


Zimm :haha: shocker all round

:lol:

http://www.vgmpf.com/Wiki/images/2/28/Mike_Tyson's_Punch-Out!!_-_NES_-_TKO.png

[Özim]

Ollie in "I believe all the BS" shocker! :lol:

[Injury Time]

Someone who claims to be 'in the know' tells me that a gaggle of agents are trying to work a deal involving Bale to Real, Ronaldo back to United and Rooney to Spurs. Sounds like a mega payday for the agents so I can believe that they are pressing it hard.... somehow I can't see the Rooney to Spurs link, though, unless United would rather he went there than Chelsea.
Inter web :blink:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Ollie in "I believe all the BS" shocker! :lol:


Zimm in "shit, wenger goings to prove me wrong, better change my argument so hes still in the wrong" shocker

[Özim]

first it was wenger will never ever spend 40 million on a player

then it was well i dont want us to blow our budget on one player

then it was clause never exsisted, it was all bollocks.

now its suarez is a scumbag and i dont want him


Zimm :haha: shocker all round
:lol: You really are deluded, he's never coming son, never so don't get your hopes us :lol:

He is a scumbag yes and I don't want him here, but I know he won't be coming so I'm pretty happy :lol:

You on the other hand will be crying in your milk in a week or two when you finally realise it's all BS :lol:

If Wenger told you the Earth was flat you'd believe him tbh!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Also, clubs trying to take hard line stances with players. :lol:

Complete waste of time.

[Marc Overmars]

First stage of him kicking off is complete. :popcorn:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Jesus this place is going to be bad if he joins Madrid. Or Spurs. Or dies a horrible death.

I'm hoping for the latter tbh.

[Özim]

First stage of him kicking off is complete. :popcorn:
Probably yes, typical greedy scumbag of a footballer. Footballers aren't saints of course but players like Barton, Suarez and Adebayor really are the worst of the worst, would be great to see players like this rot in the reserves for once.

[Özim]

Jesus this place is going to be bad if he joins Madrid. Or Spurs. Or dies a horrible death.

I'm hoping for the latter tbh.
:goodpost: :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=307670.0

RAWK. :bow:

[KSE Comedy Club]

You know, I can actually see some chance of this move happening.

We have the 'injury', now the paper interview where he feels hurt and let down by the club.

All we need now is the transfer request if nothing happens soon and then he'll be on his way!

Oh and I don't see anywhere, any specific evidence that he wants to join Real over us :shrug:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I think he probably would join Real Madrid over us (I mean it's Real Madrid) but I just don't see it as likely them coming in for him. Liverpool would have to accept a pissy little offer from them if it were to be the case.

[Özim]

You know, I can actually see some chance of this move happening.

We have the 'injury', now the paper interview where he feels hurt and let down by the club.

All we need now is the transfer request if nothing happens soon and then he'll be on his way!

Oh and I don't see anywhere, any specific evidence that he wants to join Real over us :shrug:
Don't get your hopes up, it will never happen.

The Independent and Evening Standard are reporting he favours a move to Real (see the links I posted earlier)

[Xhaka Can’t]

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=307670.0

RAWK. :bow:

Whoa!
Are you sure you want to go there?
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topi... may be risky to visit.

Why were you redirected to this page?

When we visited this site, we found it exhibited one or more risky behaviors.

[Munchies]

We know how they feel though with RVC

... Reading their board is hilarious however :D

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah Zim I think that just means if they were to come in for them but that's the case for pretty much all players that are from outside of the UK, doesn't mean they think it's likely Real Madrid will. It's just another angle to keep the saga going.

Also,
Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan 4m

I'm so excited I could bite my own arm off. #Suarez @Arsenal

:pray:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Whoa!
Are you sure you want to go there?
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topi... may be risky to visit.

Why were you redirected to this page?

When we visited this site, we found it exhibited one or more risky behaviors.

They must not want you on there, works fine for me.

[Özim]

Any club would have to put £50 million, Liverpool don't want to sell, certainly won't want to sell to an English club and even if he kicks up a fuss it would take ages to settle it.

Also the article is from the Mirror and "they understand" can usually be translated as this is BS from that paper, rarely do they ever write anything credible.

Apparently we signed Ronald De Boer a while back according to them : pinchofsalt :

[KSE Comedy Club]

Don't get your hopes up, it will never happen.

The Independent and Evening Standard are reporting he favours a move to Real (see the links I posted earlier)
Well of course they will report that.

He even says he was asked a question 'would you want to play for Real Madrid?' To which he said 'yes I would'

That's a bit of an obvious one really, same as asking someone if they would want to play for Barcelona.

Doesn't mean they will no for him though does it, and so far they are working hard to land Bale. He's their primary target this summer not Suarez.

[Munchies]

That Piers tweet, LOL

[Ollie the Optimist]

Don't get your hopes up, it will never happen.

The Independent and Evening Standard are reporting he favours a move to Real (see the links I posted earlier)

they report that without direct quotes. guardian and telegraph have a direct interview with him and genunine quotes about him being happy to stay in england and join a champions league club

[KSE Comedy Club]

We know how they feel though with RVC

... Reading their board is hilarious however :D

It's not really the same though. I think our circumstances and history with RVP was a bit more complex.
Suarez got them 30 goals they wouldn't otherwise have got but he wasnt the team captain and hasn't been there that long.

Plus they h net got top 4 for years and didn't even make Europa this time.

So it's understandable why he wants to leave.

[Ollie the Optimist]

and apart from basically forcing his move to us via this interview, it shows brendan rodgers up as a complete cunt. calling arsenal classless yet going back on his promise? lol. what a twat

[Munchies]

Any good posts on red cafe regarding Liverpool ?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Any good posts on red cafe regarding Liverpool ?

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/suarez-wants-to-leave-liverpool-considering-transfer-request-and-legal-action-p33.371814/page-42

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/rawk-goes-into-meltdown-2013-14.372218/page-14

[Ollie the Optimist]

Any club would have to put £50 million, Liverpool don't want to sell, certainly won't want to sell to an English club and even if he kicks up a fuss it would take ages to settle it.

Also the article is from the Mirror and "they understand" can usually be translated as this is BS from that paper, rarely do they ever write anything credible.

Apparently we signed Ronald De Boer a while back according to them : pinchofsalt :

suarez says there is a written clause in his contract. he would know, he signed it. so its no longer 50 million. its 40 million and a pound. done

[Munchies]

It's not really the same though. I think our circumstances and history with RVP was a bit more complex.
Suarez got them 30 goals they wouldn't otherwise have got but he wasnt the team captain and hasn't been there that long.

Plus they h net got top 4 for years and didn't even make Europa this time.

So it's understandable why he wants to leave.

True, RVC was a lot worse , we made that fucking idiot. Hope he gets injurrd.

[Özim]

It's not really the same though. I think our circumstances and history with RVP was a bit more complex.
Suarez got them 30 goals they wouldn't otherwise have got but he wasnt the team captain and hasn't been there that long.

Plus they h net got top 4 for years and didn't even make Europa this time.

So it's understandable why he wants to leave.
Do me a favour, the guy signed a new contract and the club have backed him despite all the cr*p he's got up to.

RVP's situation was completely different, his contract was running down, he'd been here years realising we were never going to achieve anything after talking to the club and was almost 29 (latter stages of his career).

RVP is a saint compared to this scumbag.

[Munchies]

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/suarez-wants-to-leave-liverpool-considering-transfer-request-and-legal-action-p33.371814/page-42

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/rawk-goes-into-meltdown-2013-14.372218/page-14

Thanks !

Will give it a read through now.

[Özim]

suarez says there is a written clause in his contract. he would know, he signed it. so its no longer 50 million. its 40 million and a pound. done

Nope, Liverpool turned down the offer, therefore he's not coming, stop dreaming it's not going to happen, though why you'd want this guy I don't know...he's a horrible little footballer not worth the trouble or money.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Do me a favour, the guy signed a new contract and the club have backed him despite all the cr*p he's got up to.

RVP's situation was completely different, his contract was running down, he'd been here years realising we were never going to achieve anything after talking to the club and was almost 29 (latter stages of his career).

RVP is a saint compared to this scumbag.


its exactly the same. we stood by rvp through all his injureis for 8 years. we kept giving him a chance, one fit season and he fucks off as you say because he knows he isnt going to win anything.

suarez, while club stood by for different reasons, is 26, realises he wont acheive what he wanst there, has a better chance with us. is moving to further his career.


the lengths you are going to make sure the club are still in the wrong in your eyes is pathetic and highly amusing

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

and apart from basically forcing his move to us via this interview, it shows brendan rodgers up as a complete cunt. calling arsenal classless yet going back on his promise? lol. what a twat

Pwomises? This isn't nursery ffs.

I'd steer clear of taking what this obvious piece of shit says as gospel as well.

And in any case, any terms of pwomises made change when you fucking bite someone! He wants to act like a twat then he needs it written down in black and white, no ambiguity, in his contract. Anything else is irrelevant. If he has that in his contract, fine, he can fuck off and the owners should kill themselves for being dumbfucks. But even then, any pwomise made by Rodgers is irrelevant because it's in his contract.

If the guy was so sure he had the ace card, he wouldn't have to spout it in a stupid interview with the people he apparently hates, and his agent(s) would already have called in the lawyers. All this guff about promises, and changing the terms of this clause from a written £40m+, to £35m to a verbal agreement suggests they are on very shaky ground.

[KSE Comedy Club]

True, RVC was a lot worse , we made that fucking idiot. Hope he gets injurrd.

:lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Nope, Liverpool turned down the offer, therefore he's not coming, stop dreaming it's not going to happen, though why you'd want this guy I don't know...he's a horrible little footballer not worth the trouble or money.

i dont think you get how release clauses work. you dont make an offer, you pay it. suarez says its there, if it is, liverpool can reject it all htey wnat. it doesnt matter. we will get suarez.

[Özim]

its exactly the same. we stood by rvp through all his injureis for 8 years. we kept giving him a chance, one fit season and he fucks off as you say because he knows he isnt going to win anything.

suarez, while club stood by for different reasons, is 26, realises he wont acheive what he wanst there, has a better chance with us. is moving to further his career.


the lengths you are going to make sure the club are still in the wrong in your eyes is pathetic and highly amusing
Nope, Suarez has been at Liverpool what 2 1/2 years, signed a new contract last summer as well, plus he's 26 not 29.

Wenger's choice to keep hold of RVP, we did it for ourselves not for him, he got to 29 realised it was his last chance to win stuff and recognised that was never going to happen here, which is fair enough.

[Özim]

i dont think you get how release clauses work. you dont make an offer, you pay it. suarez says its there, if it is, liverpool can reject it all htey wnat. it doesnt matter. we will get suarez.
:lol: Liverpool can't reject the offer then!

You can pay it if you like, where will you pay it though, Timbuktoo :lol:

[Munchies]

http://allarsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/suarez-arsenal-shirt.gif

[Özim]

Pwomises? This isn't nursery ffs.

I'd steer clear of taking what this obvious piece of shit says as gospel as well.

And in any case, any terms of pwomises made change when you fucking bite someone! He wants to act like a twat then he needs it written down in black and white, no ambiguity, in his contract. Anything else is irrelevant. If he has that in his contract, fine, he can fuck off and the owners should kill themselves for being dumbfucks. But even then, any pwomise made by Rodgers is irrelevant because it's in his contract.

If the guy was so sure he had the ace card, he wouldn't have to spout it in a stupid interview with the people he apparently hates, and his agent(s) would already have called in the lawyers. All this guff about promises, and changing the terms of this clause from a written £40m+, to £35m to a verbal agreement suggests they are on very shaky ground.

Spot on, it's total BS some people are just so desperate they believe all this cr*p (from the Mirror of all places).

[Ollie the Optimist]

Nope, Suarez has been at Liverpool what 2 1/2 years, signed a new contract last summer as well, plus he's 26 not 29.

Wenger's choice to keep hold of RVP, we did it for ourselves not for him, he got to 29 realised it was his last chance to win stuff and recognised that was never going to happen here, which is fair enough.

there is fuck all difference and you know it.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=307670.0

RAWK. :bow:

Sounds just like the RvC thread from a year ago, except replace biting people and calling that fucking cunt evra name with long injury spells and rape.

This Suarez bloke is obviously a world class scumbag so better to believe nothing until the ink is dry. Plainly he wants Marketing so fucking over us as well as Pool to get there is certainly not beyond the bounds of possibility. We should definitely be looking for another top quality striker regardless. Don't want to be going into a season with Dobbin leading the line.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Spot on, it's total BS some people are just so desperate they believe all this cr*p (from the Mirror of all places).

i dont know where you ahve been this evening, but the guardian and the telegraph released an interveiw with suarez about an hour ago. this is where the infotamtion is coming from, not the mirror reporting but actual direct quotes.

[Munchies]

" You know what? I was still defending this fucker at the weekend.

I was at Anfield the weekend and like everyone else rose to my feet and gave him a huge ovation when he came on. Suarez didn't even acknowledge it. There were moans about that and I accused people of being paranoid"

:pal:

[Master Splinter]

My dad is harder than yours.

[Özim]

there is fuck all difference and you know it.
Erm let's see, 29 end of career after spending 8 years with one club and realistically having no hope of silverware......and 26 just signed a new contract and been at the club for a couple years.

Yeah I can see what you're saying, no difference at all!

[Özim]

i dont know where you ahve been this evening, but the guardian and the telegraph released an interveiw with suarez about an hour ago. this is where the infotamtion is coming from, not the mirror reporting but actual direct quotes.
It makes me laugh that you believe this, if he had a clause this would have been with the lawyers as mentioned earlier and it would be pretty easy to sort out.

There's no clause it's just BS, if there was his agent would have been all over it, that's what they do.

[Niall_Quinn]

They must not want you on there, works fine for me.

Means your computer is already infected so to Google it appears you have accepted the malware voluntarily (probably based on your history) so it just goes and serves up the page. It was only a password logger and animal porn mail server script anyway so I'm not sure why google was even bothered.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jesus this place is going to be bad if he joins Madrid. Or Spurs. Or dies a horrible death.

I'm hoping for the latter tbh.

Head on collision in his Ferrari with RvC in his JudasMobile convertible.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Means your computer is already infected so to Google it appears you have accepted the malware voluntarily (probably based on your history) so it just goes and serves up the page. It was only a password logger and animal porn mail server script anyway so I'm not sure why google was even bothered.

Damn, copied the wrong link.

[Ollie the Optimist]

just going to point this out. suarez won the league cup a couple of years ago, we havnt won a trophy for 8 years yet he wants to join us because we have champions league football.


now can you see why Arsene said 4th is the third trophy? top players dont want a league cup, they want champions league

[Özim]

No I really can't, 4th is a pile of sh*t....if UEFA have any sense they'll remove 4th place team eligibility for the CL because it really stretches the truth.

Also nowhere does he say he wants to join us, neither will he, so no I don't see your point.

The guy probably wants more money or something, that's what greedy players like him are interested in.

[Ollie the Optimist]

It makes me laugh that you believe this, if he had a clause this would have been with the lawyers as mentioned earlier and it would be pretty easy to sort out.

There's no clause it's just BS, if there was his agent would have been all over it, that's what they do.

whys it been taken to the PFA then? whys he moaning about broken promises about leaving? he clearly feels he has a leg to stand on. its not bullshit. whats bullshit is the lengths you are going to change your argument weekly so that wenger is always in the wrong

[Özim]

whys it been taken to the PFA then? whys he moaning about broken promises about leaving? he clearly feels he has a leg to stand on. its not bullshit. whats bullshit is the lengths you are going to change your argument weekly so that wenger is always in the wrong

You're so gullible it's untrue.

Watch this BS unfold, you'll be heartbroken when he doesn't sign though, but you brought it on yourself.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jesus Zimm, there's a difference between not thinking he'll come here and not wanting him to come here.

And Ollie, it's the bleeding media spouting this shit. I really fear you'll be on a train to Dover come September 2.

[Niall_Quinn]

Damn, copied the wrong link.

Was useful for me nonetheless, so not a total write off.

[GP]

just going to point this out. suarez won the league cup a couple of years ago, we havnt won a trophy for 8 years yet he wants to join us because we have champions league football.


now can you see why Arsene said 4th is the third trophy? top players dont want a league cup, they want champions league

Exactly.

People can ridicule him all they want but they know he's right. IF you break down the shit headlines he's always right.

The last sane man in the asylum.

[Munchies]

The fucker wants to go to Real , but they're focusing on Bale atm.

No other top team bar Chelsea / us will move for him at this stage. He's seeing us as a stepping stone, but having him will make us a lot better.

[Niall_Quinn]

Exactly.

People can ridicule him all they want but they know he's right. IF you break down the shit headlines he's always right.

The last sane man in the asylum.

Why is he in the asylum then?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Zimms meltdowns :haha:

[GP]

Why is he in the asylum then?

Visiting your mum.

[Munchies]

Posted before , but appt again
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRBOuRnCIAATERn.jpg:large

[Özim]

Jesus Zimm, there's a difference between not thinking he'll come here and not wanting him to come here.

And Ollie, it's the bleeding media spouting this shit. I really fear you'll be on a train to Dover come September 2.
The guy is a scumbag, I couldn't stand Adebayor so I'd be hypocritical to want this guy here.

He's not worth the money based on one good season (for some reason he's being put on the same level as the very best players after such a short spell performing at the top level), brings a lot of baggage and really is one of the worst examples of a footballer there is, I don't really want players like him at the club if we can help it....1-2 years down the line he'll do the same to us, that's what players like him do.

I'm not worried though as he's not coming, good luck to whoever gets him because they'll need it.

[Niall_Quinn]

The fucker wants to go to Real , but they're focusing on Bale atm.

No other top team bar Chelsea / us will move for him at this stage. He's seeing us as a stepping stone, but having him will make us a lot better.

Monkey boy to Marketing, Ronaldo gets the hump and goes to Utd, Rooney sold to the chavs to fund it, Marketing nick Suarez, Arsenal sign Alharbi El-Jadeyaoui

[Özim]

Zimms meltdowns :haha:
:lol: Wrong again, you're so wrong so often you should rename yourself Mr Wrong

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Was useful for me nonetheless, so not a total write off.

I'm here to help.

[Niall_Quinn]

Visiting your mum.

Well he's wasting his time because she was moved months ago.

[Ollie the Optimist]

“I have the club’s word and we have the written contract and we are happy to take this to the Premier League for them to decide the case but I do not want it to come to that,” insisted Suárez. “We have the backing of the PFA.”

this is a direct quote from the telegraphs interview with Suarez. now Zimm, can you tell me how this clause is bullshit? PFA backing him? must mean the clause has been looked at by lawyers and they side with Suarez.

[Özim]

The fucker wants to go to Real , but they're focusing on Bale atm.

No other top team bar Chelsea / us will move for him at this stage. He's seeing us as a stepping stone, but having him will make us a lot better.
Yeah until he bits someones arm off, gets banned for half the season and then decide he's done his job and wants to move abroad!

[Özim]

this is a direct quote from the telegraphs interview with Suarez. now Zimm, can you tell me how this clause is bullshit? PFA backing him? must mean the clause has been looked at by lawyers and they side with Suarez.
Yeah so what, what are the PFA going to do, they have no power :lol:

plus have the PFA come out and said they back him?

[Niall_Quinn]

this is a direct quote from the telegraphs interview with Suarez. now Zimm, can you tell me how this clause is bullshit? PFA backing him? must mean the clause has been looked at by lawyers and they side with Suarez.

There is the one little fact that the PFA are utter, utter tossers who back players who earn a million quid a month and reckon they are slaves. I've also heard the PFA is run by an utter, utter cunt but that's a side issue.

[Özim]

There is the one little fact that the PFA are utter, utter tossers who back players who earn a million quid a month and reckon they are slaves. I've also heard the PFA is run by an utter, utter cunt but that's a side issue.

:goodpost: Plus they're all bark and no bite, noone gives a sh*t what they think!

[KSE Comedy Club]

The fucker wants to go to Real , but they're focusing on Bale atm.

No other top team bar Chelsea / us will move for him at this stage. He's seeing us as a stepping stone, but having him will make us a lot better.
No where does he say he wants to go to Real.

It's the media twisting his words.

[Özim]

Nowhere does he say he wants to go to Arsenal either.

[Niall_Quinn]

No where does he say he wants to go to Real.

It's the media twisting his words.

Wrong I'm afraid - direct quote from Suarez:


"I bite your fucking knob off black boy! And I go to Real Madrid" - GW

[Ollie the Optimist]

Nowhere does he say he wants to go to Arsenal either.


“I want to move to play in the Champions League and there is a club offering me that opportunity,” he said. “I have told the manager that I want to leave the club.

only club offering him anything is us. he also talks about being happy to stay in england. i think its safe to assume hes talking about us

[Master Splinter]

Visiting your mum.

:haha:

Thread redeemed.

[JonasTC]

Nowhere does he say he wants to go to Arsenal either.

We're the only ones who have bid for him and he wants to go to that "unknown" club, so indirectly he has said he wants to go to us :)

Now for another question, are you the owner of that users 12 year old baby brother?

[Niall_Quinn]

only club offering him anything is us. he also talks about being happy to stay in england. i think its safe to assume hes talking about us

I think your definition of "safe" sounds bloody dangerous to me, in relation to transfer deals, players and agents at least. Let's see ink on a contract and also have plenty of voice recorders in the room.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I think your definition of "safe" sounds bloody dangerous to me, in relation to transfer deals, players and agents at least. Let's see ink on a contract and also have plenty of voice recorders in the room.

true but in the context of the interview, its safe. the only club to have made an offer is us. therefore hes talking baout us. other clubs could come in and agents do their work etc, but right now, we are the only ones in for him

[Niall_Quinn]

true but in the context of the interview, its safe. the only club to have made an offer is us. therefore hes talking baout us. other clubs could come in and agents do their work etc, but right now, we are the only ones in for him

You said "baout" :haha:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

No I really can't, 4th is a pile of sh*t....if UEFA have any sense they'll remove 4th place team eligibility for the CL because it really stretches the truth.

Also nowhere does he say he wants to join us, neither will he, so no I don't see your point.

The guy probably wants more money or something, that's what greedy players like him are interested in.

:lol: zimm are you just always negative and pessimistic? what job do you have in real life?! how does your boss put up with you?! your missus must be constantly depressed?!

[Özim]

We're the only ones who have bid for him and he wants to go to that "unknown" club, so indirectly he has said he wants to go to us :)

Now for another question, are you the owner of that users 12 year old baby brother?
He's not said anything to be fair, so far it's hot air...he makes all these threats and yet it's been how long and nothing has happened.

This deal won't happen, if he had a case his agent would have been onto to his lawyers and this would be done and dusted.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Nowhere does he say he wants to go to Arsenal either.

I agree.

So can we stop assuming and stating that he only wants to go to Real.

(Not aimed at you Zimm, moreso the general GW population)

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

This is so horribly apt right now

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmyfz23gRZ1qhjikro1_500.gif

[Özim]

:lol: zimm are you just always negative and pessimistic? what job do you have in real life?! how does your boss put up with you?! your missus must be constantly depressed?!
:lol: No.

Just saying I think 4th is nothing and that Suarez is one of those footballers who just causes trouble wherever he goes, much like Adebayor has. Some players don't deserve to play football and seeing Tevez eat his words last season was great, would be nice to see it happen to more footballers like this so that we can stop seeing this kinda of sh*t.

If you let these players rot in the reserves they soon come round as they watch their career going down the pan, Suarez will have to play for Liverpool if push comes to show or he won't play in the World Cup after all. Though wouldn't it be great to see him left in the reserves and then miss out on the World Cup...that would be Karma!

Yes he's a very good player, but as what a horrible little person he is.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: No.

Just saying I think 4th is nothing and that Suarez is one of those footballers who just causes trouble wherever he goes, much like Adebayor has. Some players don't deserve to play football and seeing Tevez eat his words last season was great, would be nice to see it happen to more footballers like this so that we can stop seeing this kinda of sh*t.

If you let these players rot in the reserves they soon come round as they watch their career going down the pan, Suarez will have to play for Liverpool if push comes to show or he won't play in the World Cup after all. Though wouldn't it be great to see him left in the reserves and then miss out on the World Cup...that would be Karma!

but we've wanted big signings for years, can we not just be happy if we end up getting him? come on give mrs zimm one night of happiness!

[Niall_Quinn]

:lol: No.

Just saying I think 4th is nothing and that Suarez is one of those footballers who just causes trouble wherever he goes, much like Adebayor has. Some players don't deserve to play football and seeing Tevez eat his words last season was great, would be nice to see it happen to more footballers like this so that we can stop seeing this kinda of sh*t.

If you let these players rot in the reserves they soon come round as they watch their career going down the pan, Suarez will have to play for Liverpool if push comes to show or he won't play in the World Cup after all. Though wouldn't it be great to see him left in the reserves and then miss out on the World Cup...that would be Karma!

Yes, I agree let the fuckers rot.

But a huge bitch fight between Rodgers, Suarez, Wenger, a gaggle of agents and with the media piling on is going to be hilarious. So I'm for this.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Yes, I agree let the fuckers rot.

But a huge bitch fight between Rodgers, Suarez, Wenger, a gaggle of agents and with the media piling on is going to be hilarious. So I'm for this.

royal rumble :bow: