Winter Transfer Despair and Bafflement.

[Niall_Quinn]

So let's just remember, Wenger couldn't win a title with RvC playing like a god. What does RvC do first try as soon as he moves? And Wenker couldn't compete for a title with a 36 goal Alexis in the team, alongside Ozil. This is why he can't be allowed to sign anyone. It won't make any difference, it'll just be a waste of money.

Look at those cunts in their flashy stadium with their flashy offices raking in multi million quid wheelbarrow deals while most of us can't afford to get into the ground. Epic cunts. Ruined this club.

[Niall_Quinn]

Here's what these cunts have done. Their legacy.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/17/16/2E575E0200000578-0-image-a-73_1447776301581.jpg

[Globalgunner]

I blame Lady wassamacallit. The biddy who inherited her shares from her husband and sold to Kroenke instead of Usmanov. Usmanov would have been a more demanding owner. He imo would not have tolerated Wengers squandering, vacillating, no ambition ways for so long.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Bracewell-Smith off the top of my head...

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

:( Sanchez really is happening then....

[dostoy]

Does anyone really think that Wenger will be out in the summer ?

How will this happen exactly ?

He will NOT jump so who is going to push him ?

Kroenke will not get rid of a man who he gave a 2 year deal to just one year ago is he.

I would not be surprised if another 2 year deal is on the table in May 2019.

Its completely unbelievable and Arsenal deserve all they get if/when it happens.

[Marc Overmars]

United as favourites for Alexis as well. :sick:

[selassie]

United as favourites for Alexis as well. :sick:

Yep, been reading it everywhere today, seems they have met our valuation and given him a huge wage offer. I honestly didn’t think he would want to go there but he must be desperate to get out of Arsenal. If this happens I’m not even angry, it’s gone beyond that stage now, just numb to us selling our best players to our supposed rivals.

[selassie]

Sanchez not in the squad today, all set for Man U. Ozil to join him July 1. That my friends, is Arsenal.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Looks like we'll be getting Malcom.

Hope we give him 'X' as the shirt number.

[Power n Glory]

Yep, been reading it everywhere today, seems they have met our valuation and given him a huge wage offer. I honestly didn’t think he would want to go there but he must be desperate to get out of Arsenal. If this happens I’m not even angry, it’s gone beyond that stage now, just numb to us selling our best players to our supposed rivals.

No idea why Sanchez would choose Man Utd when he has so many options come summer.

Mourinho has been reading the Art of War again. :lol: He must know if Sanchez goes to Man City it will strengthen their hand to win the league title. Seems like he wants to disrupt that anyway possible and what a better way to get one over Wenger again? What a piece of shit and I can't believe we've allowed this to happen.

[Globalgunner]

The funniest part of the Sanchez saga is that Utd are the team who need him the least of the top 4. Mourinho is a turd manager who has no idea how to use the talent already at his disposal. City at least have a spot for him and a manager who has the technical ability to make it work even when Jesus comes back, so do Pool. Chelsea also need someone upfront who isnt absolutely clueless.

[Özim]

Man U need another goalscorer, Sanchez will take them up a level, the other team that could use him was Chelsea If nothing else Sanchez scores a lot of goals, goals we just won't replace, Malcom, Draxler etc won't score many goals.

Wenger says situation isn't decided one way or another so he's left him at home, does this guy seriously believe anyone believes in this nonsense he comes out with? He said the other day when asked about the Sanchez situation, he wouldn't have done anything differently, talk about being stubborn :lol:

I think this now cements our place as a 2nd tier feeder clubs for the big boys, no other big club would be caught selling their top players to other teams in the PL so often.

[Cripps]

What do we need the money for? Push for a Mikhi swap FFS.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Yeah a Mikhi swap would be ideal given the current situation. Would be humiliating to see Man Utd take our best player (never again I said after RVP) yet again but the club is already such an embarrassment I don't even care.


Anyone watched Malcolm in the middle? Is he any good?

[Niall_Quinn]

Looks like we'll be getting Malcom.

Hope we give him 'X' as the shirt number.

Poor bastard.

Does anyone have his phone number? I need to see if I can talk him out of it. I wouldn't be able to sleep if he ended up signing and I knew I could have warned him.

This kid will have his career smashed by the old cunt if he makes the tragic mistake of coming here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah a Mikhi swap would be ideal given the current situation. Would be humiliating to see Man Utd take our best player (never again I said after RVP) yet again but the club is already such an embarrassment I don't even care.


Anyone watched Malcolm in the middle? Is he any good?

Mikhi is a huge lump of shit - on his best day. Do we really need more of their castoffs?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Poor bastard.

Does anyone have his phone number? I need to see if I can talk him out of it. I wouldn't be able to sleep if he ended up signing and I knew I could have warned him.

This kid will have his career smashed by the old cunt if he makes the tragic mistake of coming here.

Bordeaux are 13th in the French Ligue 1

He will almost certainly double his pay, not sure I feel that sorry for him

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Mikhi is a huge lump of shit - on his best day. Do we really need more of their castoffs?

Nah Mikhi is a quality player who's wasted by Mourinho who prefers his "soldiers" than people with a bit of skill and imagination - just look at what he did to De Bruyne. He could do a job (under a competent manager).

Would prefer someone younger tbh but given our current plight we're not going to attract anyone better other than possibly Draxler.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nah Mikhi is a quality player who's wasted by Mourinho who prefers his "soldiers" than people with a bit of skill and imagination - just look at what he did to De Bruyne. He could do a job (under a competent manager).

Would prefer someone younger tbh but given our current plight we're not going to attract anyone better other than possibly Draxler.

He's wasted by Maureen? So how badly do you think our genius could waste him?

Somebody at the club needs to get the chequebook away for the old git and batten down the hatches and ride out the storm until the twat leaves. Even Kroenke must have twigged by now.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bordeaux are 13th in the French Ligue 1

He will almost certainly double his pay, not sure I feel that sorry for him

Guy is supposed to be quite a decent prospect. As a football fan, would you want to see his career ruined at the age of 20?

I don't know why Wenger hasn't been done for child abuse. The number of young lives he's ruined.

[Marc Overmars]

Mikhi, Malcom, don't give a shit. :shrug:

Won't help our season in any way.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mikhi, Malcom, don't give a shit. :shrug:

Won't help our season in any way.

Not one jot of difference. Shit head wouldn't have a clue how to use Messi if he pitched up.

[Power n Glory]

Guy is supposed to be quite a decent prospect. As a football fan, would you want to see his career ruined at the age of 20?

I don't know why Wenger hasn't been done for child abuse. The number of young lives he's ruined.

Ox had the right Idea. Fucked off early enough and now getting games in his preferred position and looking good.

[AFC Leveller]

I thought last summer was bad but this one is looking fucking miserable already. Te prospect of losing our two best players and possibly strengthing direct and despicable rivals is a sackable offense. The attacking players against Bournemouth were dire, really average footballers. We won't finish anywhere near the top 4 with the current squad (assuming Ozil also leaves)

[selassie]

Nah Mikhi is a quality player who's wasted by Mourinho who prefers his "soldiers" than people with a bit of skill and imagination - just look at what he did to De Bruyne. He could do a job (under a competent manager).

Would prefer someone younger tbh but given our current plight we're not going to attract anyone better other than possibly Draxler.

Mikhi is the last player we need especially under Wenker.

The fact that the club is in discussions over selling over best player to United is a complete and utter disgrace, it tells us all we need to know about the direction of this club, honestly it's pathetic.

[selassie]

I thought last summer was bad but this one is looking fucking miserable already. Te prospect of losing our two best players and possibly strengthing direct and despicable rivals is a sackable offense. The attacking players against Bournemouth were dire, really average footballers. We won't finish anywhere near the top 4 with the current squad (assuming Ozil also leaves)

If Wenger stays in charge things will only get worse. I shudder to think what he will do with the squad in the summer, especially if he's given a fair bit of money to spend.

[Niall_Quinn]

I thought last summer was bad but this one is looking fucking miserable already. Te prospect of losing our two best players and possibly strengthing direct and despicable rivals is a sackable offense. The attacking players against Bournemouth were dire, really average footballers. We won't finish anywhere near the top 4 with the current squad (assuming Ozil also leaves)

If the old goat stays on past the summer we'll start to see our second rate players looking for the exits too. This ship is sinking faster and faster as Wenker hits as many icebergs as he can spot. Even half decent players will start moving towards the lifeboats, or else we'll have to pay them a silly amount to stay. Ship sinking, tree falling, whatever. It starts slowly and then goes faster and faster.

[Cripps]

If the old goat stays on past the summer we'll start to see our second rate players looking for the exits too. This ship is sinking faster and faster as Wenker hits as many icebergs as he can spot. Even half decent players will start moving towards the lifeboats, or else we'll have to pay them a silly amount to stay. Ship sinking, tree falling, whatever. It starts slowly and then goes faster and faster.

How was the walk? How close were you to jumping?

[Niall_Quinn]

How was the walk? How close were you to jumping?

Nice. Didn't bother me one bit there was a match on. Didn't think about it. Already knew how the game went anyway, before it kicked off.

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis has gone to Utd for 30 mill?

Fucking hell.

Fucking hell.

He's done it again, he's done it again, Arsehole Wenker, he's done it again!

[AFC Leveller]

We are a selling club, nothing has changed. It's RVC all over again but this time it is worse because we are strengthening Mourinho and possibly keeping him in his job longer. Also, I thought the club said we don't need the money anymore that's why we didn't sell anyone last summer (apart from the ox). Yet more bullshit management from this joke of a club,

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I don't like the idea of taking Manures cast offs but Mourinho is horrible at getting the best out of attacking players of a particular profile.

De Bruyne, Salah and maybe you can add Mikhitarian to that. I'd prefer to see him play than Iwobi and Theo is going so I more see him as a replacement for one of those.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Guillem Ballague reporting we are trying to sign Aubemeyang for €60million

Fanciful enough on its own, but when that guy reports it you know it’s bollocks

[Penguin]

Yeah no chance of that. Aubameyang rejected us when Sanchez and Ozil weren't fucking off to our rivals and we were still a top four team. Why would he come here now? :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chucking money at him. Not sure what else we have really.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah no chance of that. Aubameyang rejected us when Sanchez and Ozil weren't fucking off to our rivals and we were still a top four team. Why would he come here now? :lol:

We're trying to sign Aubamayeng because it's a big name, so will attract media attention, and because the player has already said he definitely will never come to Arsenal, so that media attention will be for free. And we might be able to drag the fantasy all the way until the window closing. It's another con in a long line of moves from the con-artists that run the club.

[Marc Overmars]

If he's a money grabber we might be able to bag him. I'm sure we could double any wages Dortmund offer.

No footballing reason why he'd come here of course.

[Özim]

Think Aubameyang can do better and he knows it, not sure he'd be remotely interested in coming to a 2nd rate club when he's got use to progressing in the CL.

[Niall_Quinn]

If he's a money grabber we might be able to bag him. I'm sure we could double any wages Dortmund offer.

No footballing reason why he'd come here of course.

So he can start hunting around for another deal one year into his contract? We need players committed to the Arsenal cause, on board and committed to delivering on the ambitions of the club. I'm pretty damn sure there aren't any long term prospects out there playing at the top level who dream of making Kroenke and Wenger even richer. All we get is Neymaresque passers-through at best. Nothing can be built on the back of players like that - except short term revenues, more cash for the leeches.

Wenger has fucked this club. Fucked it good and proper and it will take some real football know how and off the wall thinking to put it back together again. A lot of damage done here. Big, big task for the next guy. Whenever that happens. If ever. And every day Wenger stays, the task gets bigger.

[Cripps]

Signing Auba would make zero sense and just cement the fact there's no planning at this club.

We just splashed on a £50m striker. We can't even get the best out of him and we're going for another striker. What are we gonna do? Play one out wide and out of position?

Do we actually plan anything? Or just trolley dash during the window when we see what's on offer?

[Niall_Quinn]

Signing Auba would make zero sense and just cement the fact there's no planning at this club.

We just splashed on a £50m striker. We can't even get the best out of him and we're going for another striker. What are we gonna do? Play one out wide and out of position?

Do we actually plan anything? Or just trolley dash during the window when we see what's on offer?

Trolley dash.

And Wenger crashes the trolley.

Don't worry, he'll have had his eye on some piece of shit for the last 4-5 seasons and will blow the Alexis money. Some gem that nobody else wants but somehow costs 30 million quid.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The guy has spent 300 million in last five years, not really tiny amount

[Marc Overmars]

The guy has spent 300 million in last five years, not really tiny amount

Ox is the only significant sale in that time as well.
A few guys were sold for around the 10m mark but the net waste has been huge in that period.

After all the new money, we're going to end up with a squad weaker than it's ever been. A real dud of a manager.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ox is the only significant sale in that time as well.
A few guys were sold for around the 10m mark but the net waste has been huge in that period.

After all the new money, we're going to end up with a squad weaker than it's ever been. A real dud of a manager.

On the plus side, the share price has held up well and the profits are still rolling in. So not all doom and gloom. And, as Ivan informed us, we are consistently outperforming our rivals. So take that, Burnley.

[hobson's choice]

Signing Auba would make zero sense and just cement the fact there's no planning at this club.

We just splashed on a £50m striker. We can't even get the best out of him and we're going for another striker. What are we gonna do? Play one out wide and out of position?

Do we actually plan anything? Or just trolley dash during the window when we see what's on offer?

Pierre is a different striker from Lacazette.He's one of the few strikers that create something outta nothing, and isnt dependent on service.

You don't pass up on a striker like him

[Cripps]

I really can't take Alexis going to that odious prick.

He will be so so smug. And their fans will be getting one over us again.

I dislike them almost as much as Sp*rs.

I hate this club.

[hobson's choice]

Think Aubameyang can do better and he knows it, not sure he'd be remotely interested in coming to a 2nd rate club when he's got use to progressing in the CL.

Because Dortmund are in worse position than us. And he just wants to leave. Madrid ain't coming for him. We the best option.

[Niall_Quinn]

Because Dortmund are in worse position than us. And he just wants to leave. Madrid ain't coming for him. We the best option.

Jeez. Do we really want a player that down on his luck?

[hobson's choice]

I really can't take Alexis going to that odious prick.

He will be so so smug. And their fans will be getting one over us again.

I dislike them almost as much as Sp*rs.

I hate this club.

I'm actually happy if goes to United. Jose will piss him off within a couple of months

[Cripps]

Pierre is a different striker from Lacazette.He's one of the few strikers that create something outta nothing, and isnt dependent on service.

You don't pass up on a striker like him

Do you know who our manager is?

[hobson's choice]

Jeez. Do we really want a player that down on his luck?

But he's still scoring, plenty.

Dortmund are a mess

[hobson's choice]

Do you know who our manager is?

He's already shown as a player he can overcome shiit management.

[Özim]

Because Dortmund are in worse position than us. And he just wants to leave. Madrid ain't coming for him. We the best option.

A sinking ship is his best option? He must be hopeless if that's the case. There's probably a dozen clubs that would love him onboard. If I was him I'd stay at Dortmund and look around in the summer, you're not going to win anything here, hell we don't even pay that much.

From a footballing point of view signing for Arsenal is a terrible decision, you'd be wasting your career.

[Cripps]

He's already shown as a player he can overcome shiit management.

There's shit management and then there's WUMger.

[Özim]

Aubameyang has said before he's not interested in signing for us, he's clearly a smart cookie, backward step even from Dortmund, at least they get somewhere in the CL sometimes.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Ivan has to make sure the money is kept away from Wenger. Right now Arsenal would be better off spending it on hookers and blow for Board meetings.

[hobson's choice]

Aubameyang has said before he's not interested in signing for us, he's clearly a smart cookie, backward step even from Dortmund, at least they get somewhere in the CL sometimes.

Not really dude, they haven't won a game since October. And they've been sliding down the table.

[Özim]

Not really dude, they haven't won a game since October. And they've been sliding down the table.

Dortmund are 4th 2 points behind 2nd, better position than us. They also have a far better record in the CL than we do and have got past the last 16 many times.

[AFC Leveller]

Malcom to be completed tomorrow, just after we sell Sanche to Man ure.

[Özim]

Like for like.

[hobson's choice]

Dortmund are 4th 2 points behind 2nd, better position than us. They also have a far better record in the CL than we do and have got past the last 16 many times.

Their future is not looking good. Dortmunds situation is not good. And this summer they'll have sell their best players again.

And we can pay him a lot lot more than he's ever gonna get at Dortmund

[hobson's choice]

Dortmund are 4th 2 points behind 2nd, better position than us. They also have a far better record in the CL than we do and have got past the last 16 many times.

And 2 months ago they were 2nd within touching distance of a in turmoil Bayern. And now they are 4th.

Did they even win a game in their group I'm the CL?

[Özim]

Their future is not looking good. Dortmunds situation is not. And this summer they'll have sell their best players again.

And we can pay him a lot lot more than he's ever gonna get at Dortmund

Don't know much about Dortmund, what I do know is they'll probably qualify for the CL and get the money from that, they also won't need to sell as they are cash rich from selling Dembele to Barca.

We can pay more, but so can countless other clubs which are more appealing.

[Cripps]

Are we now so bored of arguing about Arsenal we're arguing about Dortmund?

[Özim]

And 2 months ago they were 2nd within touching distance of a in turmoil Bayern. And now they are 4th.

Did they even win a game in their group I'm the CL?

2 months is a long time, now they're 2 points away from 2nd (think top 3 get in to the CL), so in all likelyness they'll qualify, might even knock us out of the Europa if we play them.

They've had a tough year this year but had Real and Spurs who are also very good, they did play Spurs off the park in the 1st leg but didn't put their chances away however, generally though they do well and progress past the last 16.

Now clearly they're not the side they were, but they play better football than us and are more likely to have CL football as well.

[Penguin]

Pierre is a different striker from Lacazette.He's one of the few strikers that create something outta nothing, and isnt dependent on service.

You don't pass up on a striker like him

He'd fare better than Lacazette but he still needs the service. He's one of the fastest sprinters in the game and thrives on counter attacks and getting played through on goal early. At Arsenal he'll be getting the ball with his back to goal and with ten defenders behind him.

But at least he can practice those cute little flicks back to our midfielders, because that's the main job of strikers obviously. #Wengerball :bow:

[AFC Leveller]

If Alexis goes to man ure, then it will have been all about money for him. City look a lot better equipped to be winning trophies than man ure but he's obviously after a huge pay packet and while I don't blame his m, it is surprising he's going there.

[Niall_Quinn]

If Alexis goes to man ure, then it will have been all about money for him. City look a lot better equipped to be winning trophies than man ure but he's obviously after a huge pay packet and while I don't blame his m, it is surprising he's going there.

Or the gypos simply refused to pay the price and Alexis can't stand the thought of another moment under Jedi Master Wenker.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Aubemeyang is world class so I'd welcome him with open arms...despite the usual sycophantic I want to go to Marketing shizzle.

Won't hold my breath though..... and it would render the signing of Lacazette strange unless we changed formation.

[Penguin]

If Alexis goes to man ure, then it will have been all about money for him. City look a lot better equipped to be winning trophies than man ure but he's obviously after a huge pay packet and while I don't blame his m, it is surprising he's going there.

If it was just about the money he would go to China or PSG where they would happily throw more money at him. It's not about the money, it's about getting the hell away from Wenger's bullshit system as fast as he can. Frankly I don't blame him.

[selassie]

If it was just about the money he would go to China or PSG where they would happily throw more money at him. It's not about the money, it's about getting the hell away from Wenger's bullshit system as fast as he can. Frankly I don't blame him.

Aye, he has more of a chance of winning bigger stuff there too. They aren't really much of an upgrade on us at the moment but one thing they will do is show ambition and spend to fix problems in the team.

[Cripps]

The issue is the longer he stays the bigger and deeper the issues become and the more chronic they become and harder to reverse.

So with every single season he stays the quality of the squad weakens and quality erodes. The threat is that it becomes so damaging it becomes structural, which takes years to reverse. Just look at Liverpool. Over the years the quality of the squad eroded and then structural damage set in, they have had to throw a shit load of money at it to reverse it and go through a hoard of managers.

If Wenger had left 2 years ago the damage would have been limited. The quality of the squad was alright.
If he left last year the damage would have taken a short while to reverse.
Now it's going to take while.
Next year more.
I don't even want to think beyond that.

[Niall_Quinn]

The issue is the longer he stays the bigger and deeper the issues become and the more chronic they become and harder to reverse.

So with every single season he stays the quality of the squad weakens and quality erodes. The threat is that it becomes so damaging it becomes structural, which takes years to reverse. Just look at Liverpool. Over the years the quality of the squad eroded and then structural damage set in, they have had to throw a shit load of money at it to reverse it and go through a hoard of managers.

If Wenger had left 2 years ago the damage would have been limited. The quality of the squad was alright.
If he left last year the damage would have taken a short while to reverse.
Now it's going to take while.
Next year more.
I don't even want to think beyond that.

No. Look at Nottingham Forest. From the pinnacle of Europe to giant killers in the FA Cup, spanning almost 40 years of obscurity. People laugh at the idea of relegation but when a manager is allowed to remain long after he's lost even the basic ability to organise, motivate and compete the whole club withers. That's what we're looking at now. The club dying. The quality of the football fading out, our ability to compete non-existent, the attitude of the players stinking the place out, the key players looking for the exits, the potential of youngsters coming through being wasted, the fans sinking into an acceptance of it all. It's inconceivable this has-been might be allowed to remain for another minutes, let alone another season. But chances are, that's exactly what's going to happen. By the time he leaves this club might be done. It has happened before and we're not immune just because we're called Arsenal.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Fungusface wouldn't sell the scousers Gabriel Heinze..... and here we are possibly selling our best player to that loathesome club for the second time. Nothing is fuhking it sacred anymore.....

[KSE Comedy Club]

Some reports suggest that Sanchez leaving will mean Mhikitarian, Malcom & Aubameyang coming in.

I suppose it sounds ok on paper, but not much use with wencunt around

[rodders]

I have little interest anymore!!!! The sooner Wenger and Kroenke go the better. I believe Kroenke is a greater villain than Wenger

[selassie]

The issue is the longer he stays the bigger and deeper the issues become and the more chronic they become and harder to reverse.

So with every single season he stays the quality of the squad weakens and quality erodes. The threat is that it becomes so damaging it becomes structural, which takes years to reverse. Just look at Liverpool. Over the years the quality of the squad eroded and then structural damage set in, they have had to throw a shit load of money at it to reverse it and go through a hoard of managers.

If Wenger had left 2 years ago the damage would have been limited. The quality of the squad was alright.
If he left last year the damage would have taken a short while to reverse.
Now it's going to take while.
Next year more.
I don't even want to think beyond that.

:gp:

Yep, we are in really bad shape right now. The squad is a complete mess and the amount of rebuilding we have to do makes me feel very uneasy, what’s worse is that I do not trust Wenger to get any of it right, he can make the squad a lot worse.

[selassie]

Some reports suggest that Sanchez leaving will mean Mhikitarian, Malcom & Aubameyang coming in.

I suppose it sounds ok on paper, but not much use with wencunt around

Just names, how would we fit all of these guys into the team? You know like actually having a plan and a system in place so they have defined positions/roles in the team.

These links aside from Malcom just smack of desperation to me, like us just buying players because they are available without any real thought or plan on how to integrate them in the team.

Buying without a thought is why we are in such a mess right now.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Just names, how would we fit all of these guys into the team? You know like actually having a plan and a system in place so they have defined positions/roles in the team.

These links aside from Malcom just smack of desperation to me, like us just buying players because they are available without any real thought or plan on how to integrate them in the team.

Buying without a thought is why we are in such a mess right now.

And so the merry go round continues.

We are in serious, serious trouble. Its such a sorry state of affairs :(:sulk::angry:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Le Grove states that it’s highly likely that not only will Wenger see out his contract but will extend it as well

[KSE Comedy Club]

I hope top god it's just scare mongering.

He has to be assassinated soon, surely? :shrug:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Don’t think he really does scaremongering

[Marc Overmars]

Le Grove states that it’s highly likely that not only will Wenger see out his contract but will extend it as well

Can’t even fathom that happening. If this current contract is the one that started the process of destroying his legacy, the next one will be one that finishes it off.

[Cripps]

Arsenal exploring Aubameyang, Malcom and Mkhitaryan as Wenger targets two in ahead of likely Sanchez (Man Utd) and Walcott (Everton) departures https://t.co/vKy6wHaP9A

Wenger :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Arsenal exploring Aubameyang, Malcom and Mkhitaryan as Wenger targets two in ahead of likely Sanchez (Man Utd) and Walcott (Everton) departures https://t.co/vKy6wHaP9A

Wenger :bow:

Sven. :bow:

[GP]

Waffles :bow:

[Munchies]

Sign Aubameygang and play him on the wing?

WUMger :bow:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Sign Aubameygang and play him on the wing?

WUMger :bow:

Or do what Liverpool do and play an interchangeable front three

[Marc Overmars]

Not sure that would work with Laca because he’s very much a conventional striker. We’re not even seeing the best of him playing through the middle so no idea what he’d be like having to do a shift out wide.

Works for Liverpool because their attack are all the same kind of players.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Consensus seems to have formed that no matter how bad it is Wenger won’t walk away

And no one seems to want to sack him. Total impasse

[KSE Comedy Club]

Arsenal exploring Aubameyang, Malcom and Mkhitaryan as Wenger targets two in ahead of likely Sanchez (Man Utd) and Walcott (Everton) departures https://t.co/vKy6wHaP9A

Wenger :bow:

It HAS to be all three, not just two in two out.

We at least need to add to the already depleted reserves that we have left

[Özim]

It HAS to be all three, not just two in two out.

We at least need to add to the already depleted reserves that we have left

If we pull this off it wil be panic buying at it's best, we didn't want Aubameyang, didn't pursue Mikhitaryan and now want both, not complaining as those two and Malcolm would be very welcome as they'd add some desperately needed quality to our very average squad, but nonetheless clearly these are not players we've been after.

Be interesting to see if this turns out to be media nonsense.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Part of me honestly hopes we bring in no one

But then I think, no one will sack this man so what difference does it make

[GP]

https://twitter.com/JamesOlley/status/952862551464914946

Martial pls

[Marc Overmars]

Says a lot about my apathy right now that the prospect of these players coming in doesn’t really get the juices flowing. I mean they’d be smart signings for sure to lessen the Sanchez blow, Aubameyang especially, but under this manager they’ll be reduced to a shell within the year.

[Marc Overmars]

https://twitter.com/JamesOlley/status/952862551464914946

Martial pls

Absolutely. Martial over Mkhitaryan any day.

I think it’s balls though, Martial is far more of an asset to them, both on the pitch and financially.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Says a lot about my apathy right now that the prospect of these players coming in doesn’t really get the juices flowing. I mean they’d be smart signings for sure to lessen the Sanchez blow, Aubameyang especially, but under this manager they’ll be reduced to a shell within the year.

I still can’t get the apathy. I’m apathetic about the results. But makes my blood boil that no one will do anything about Wenger.

Miserable selfish old cunt won’t take up golf

[Özim]

Don't really rate Martial but they won't sell him anyway.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

No I agree, United won’t sell him to us. According to Star and Express, Wenger wants Martial but Mislintat wants Mhkytarian

[GP]

Of the two I'd prefer Martial by miles but it's not going to happen.

[KSE Comedy Club]

If we pull this off it wil be panic buying at it's best, we didn't want Aubameyang, didn't pursue Mikhitaryan and now want both, not complaining as those two and Malcolm would be very welcome as they'd add some desperately needed quality to our very average squad, but nonetheless clearly these are not players we've been after.

Be interesting to see if this turns out to be media nonsense.

Of course we didn't want any them, because we have no clue who our 'targets' are until we know who we are selling or the 'end of the window bargains' - whichever happens to come first.
That's about as much forward planning as we can expect.

Clearly, Wenget & Co. were still deluding themselves into thinking that Sanchez wanted to play for the club and he might stay due to some of the performances he's put in this season, no clue that he was actually trying to show the other parties what he can do!

[KSE Comedy Club]

Says a lot about my apathy right now that the prospect of these players coming in doesn’t really get the juices flowing. I mean they’d be smart signings for sure to lessen the Sanchez blow, Aubameyang especially, but under this manager they’ll be reduced to a shell within the year.

Some of that is probably down to how deflated & dejected were all are about the state of the club right now. Even if we signed Messi, I couldn't really give a toss right now.

Wenger has become a cancer at this club, the tumour has become too large and needs to be surgically removed before we flatline.

[Niall_Quinn]

Le Grove states that it’s highly likely that not only will Wenger see out his contract but will extend it as well

Well he's so close to getting rid of us, why would he stop at the last hurdle?

[Niall_Quinn]

Says a lot about my apathy right now that the prospect of these players coming in doesn’t really get the juices flowing. I mean they’d be smart signings for sure to lessen the Sanchez blow, Aubameyang especially, but under this manager they’ll be reduced to a shell within the year.

It's worse than that. Crueller. They'd fire the team up, transform the place and our ambitions for a couple of weeks, and THEN they'd be reduced to a shell. Wenger will have rubbed our noses in yet another false dawn.

I'm the same. I couldn't give a shit who we signed and rather it was nobody because it all amounts to the same thing. My only interest now is seeing if Claude will cut himself.

[Niall_Quinn]

No I agree, United won’t sell him to us. According to Star and Express, Wenger wants Martial but Mislintat wants Mhkytarian

What happened to Draxler? He's twice the player either of those two are and he's available for less than we wasted on Xhaka.

Draxler is the best player we can get right now and he might even come here? Or was he also one of the players who got fucked around by Wenker and now won't touch us? Losing track.

[Cripps]

Says a lot about my apathy right now that the prospect of these players coming in doesn’t really get the juices flowing. I mean they’d be smart signings for sure to lessen the Sanchez blow, Aubameyang especially, but under this manager they’ll be reduced to a shell within the year.

It says a lot about my apathy right now that we're in a cup semi final and I'm not arsed and probably want us to lose so Wenger gets sacked.

[Cripps]

What happened to Draxler? He's twice the player either of those two are and he's available for less than we wasted on Xhaka.

Draxler is the best player we can get right now and he might even come here? Or was he also one of the players who got fucked around by Wenker and now won't touch us? Losing track.

Mikhi would be alright. Why are people so against it? He's been dogshit at Utd but Jose doesn't seem to like him one bit. He was class at Dortmund. I'd like him here.

[Niall_Quinn]

It says a lot about my apathy right now that we're in a cup semi final and I'm not arsed and probably want us to lose so Wenger gets sacked.

It's not a real cup, tbf. It's a warm up tournament for new and talented managers coming into the league, so they can get some silverware under their belt and push on to bigger things.

But for us it might be the glorious achievement that secures another contract for Wenker.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mikhi would be alright. Why are people so against it? He's been dogshit at Utd but Jose doesn't seem to like him one bit. He was class at Dortmund. I'd like him here.

He'd be shit here too. Dortmund play (or played) a totally different style of football to ourselves and Utd. We'd have this guy in a tippy tappy, don't lose the ball role. We already have a host of turds who can do that. Why do we need another one.

If you tell me we're getting Aubergine and Mikyturd and Martial AND we're going to start playing like Liverpool and the gypos, well that's different.

But we have Wenger.

[Cripps]

He'd be shit here too. Dortmund play (or played) a totally different style of football to ourselves and Utd. We'd have this guy in a tippy tappy, don't lose the ball role. We already have a host of turds who can do that. Why do we need another one.

If you tell me we're getting Aubergine and Mikyturd and Martial AND we're going to start playing like Liverpool and the gypos, well that's different.

But we have Wenger.

Hmmm maybe.

He's a ready made world class player though. Martial is young and needs development. Wenger won't give him that. I'm worried he'll turn into another Walcott.

[Niall_Quinn]

Anyway, all of this is bullshit to distract the fans and try to take the heat out of the fury that's going to build up over this window when people finally realise we aren't signing anyone at all.

[Power n Glory]

Anyway, all of this is bullshit to distract the fans and try to take the heat out of the fury that's going to build up over this window when people finally realise we aren't signing anyone at all.

:gp: The classic Wenger smoke screen before he declares Nelson as the replacement for Sanchez.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

:gp: The classic Wenger smoke screen before he declares Nelson as the replacement for Sanchez.

That would be a big t bone steak for his defenders

How can you blame Wenger when we can’t compete is the current line they are holding

[Niall_Quinn]

Only other business we are doing in this window is selling.

Theo. Maybe Ozil if Utd don't land Alexis, and there's this clock in the stadium that nobody needs - we could flog that too.

[selassie]

Absolutely. Martial over Mkhitaryan any day.

I think it’s balls though, Martial is far more of an asset to them, both on the pitch and financially.

TBF I would be quite happy with Martial, I like him a lot. I don’t even think United would be stupid enough to include him and I’m not sure he would even want to come.

[Cripps]

Arsenal set to out-bid Tottenham to sign Malcom, the first major signing of the Sven Mislintat era. https://t.co/N5VgOrte5y

Sven :bow:

[Power n Glory]

What happened to Draxler? He's twice the player either of those two are and he's available for less than we wasted on Xhaka.

Draxler is the best player we can get right now and he might even come here? Or was he also one of the players who got fucked around by Wenker and now won't touch us? Losing track.

Draxler seems more like a project player. His record is inconsistent compared to the other two and would definitely need more work and guidance to develop. You can't trust Wenger would much these days but I'd argue he's more likely to really fuck Draxler's career.

[Niall_Quinn]

Draxler seems more like a project player. His record is inconsistent compared to the other two and would definitely need more work and guidance to develop. You can't trust Wenger would much these days but I'd argue he's more likely to really fuck Draxler's career.

Listen bud, I'm trying to join in the fantasy transfer fun. Stop ruining it for me.

[KSE Comedy Club]

What happened to Draxler? He's twice the player either of those two are and he's available for less than we wasted on Xhaka.

Draxler is the best player we can get right now and he might even come here? Or was he also one of the players who got fucked around by Wenker and now won't touch us? Losing track.

Never mind him, more importantly....what happened to Johnny Evans and David Luis? :lol:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Not sure if I can even get excited by Aubameyang, a player I would have given my right nut for a few seasons ago. It reeks of "panic buying" .... something ironically we've become quite known for despite our supposed reputation for "financial prudence". He's also getting quite old and this just seems like one last desperate attempt to get out off Dortmund where he's burnt all his bridges with his attitude.

Tbh I'd much rather have the funds saved to be used by a new manager and ultimately as we all know, it'd all be ultimately pointless as long as Wenger remains in charge.



Le Grove states that it’s highly likely that not only will Wenger see out his contract but will extend it as well

Le Grove is chatting bollocks for clicks as usual - what a tool. He doesn't have any inside sources to know anything.

Look Gazidis and Sir Chips for all their faults, were in tune enough with fan sentiment, to not want Wenger to stay on last year. So they're not going to be oblivious to the current situation - they've got social media teams and other staff who monitor the situation.

They know that re-signing Wenger yet again is simply an untenable position for the board given that now 90% at least of the fanbase want him gone and they used up whatever last good-will they had with the last contract.

Worse case scenario is Wenger sees out this contract.

Best case scenario is that Wenger decides to call it quits at the end of this year as part of the review clause he has.

[Power n Glory]

Listen bud, I'm trying to join in the fantasy transfer fun. Stop ruining it for me.

:( Sorry.

[AFC Leveller]

Mikhi and Aubameyang know eachother well from their time at Dortmund and would click immedialty (if they come). Martial is a good talent but i dont think they will sell him to us.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Not sure if I can even get excited by Aubameyang, a player I would have given my right nut for a few seasons ago. It reeks of "panic buying" .... something ironically we've become quite known for despite our supposed reputation for "financial prudence". He's also getting quite old and this just seems like one last desperate attempt to get out off Dortmund where he's burnt all his bridges with his attitude.

Tbh I'd much rather have the funds saved to be used by a new manager and ultimately as we all know, it'd all be ultimately pointless as long as Wenger remains in charge.




Le Grove is chatting bollocks for clicks as usual - what a tool. He doesn't have any inside sources to know anything.

Look Gazidis and Sir Chips for all their faults, were in tune enough with fan sentiment, to not want Wenger to stay on last year. So they're not going to be oblivious to the current situation - they've got social media teams and other staff who monitor the situation.

They know that re-signing Wenger yet again is simply an untenable position for the board given that now 90% at least of the fanbase want him gone and they used up whatever last good-will they had with the last contract.

Worse case scenario is Wenger sees out this contract.

Best case scenario is that Wenger decides to call it quits at the end of this year as part of the review clause he has.

1) Sir Chips’ Hong Kong based company paid for the pro Wenger banner flown over the Hawthorns. And come on did you see the AGM the guy was a complete dick cheese.

2) What would if matter if the entire board wanted Wenger out, there’s only one guy that matters and unless someone changes Kroenkes mind...Wenger stays as long as he wants

[The Emirates Gallactico]

1) Sir Chips’ Hong Kong based company paid for the pro Wenger banner flown over the Hawthorns. And come on did you see the AGM the guy was a complete dick cheese.

2) What would if matter if the entire board wanted Wenger out, there’s only one guy that matters and unless someone changes Kroenkes mind...Wenger stays as long as he wants

1) I didn't know about that tbh. Yes the guy is a dick, but then again most people like him always are. I thought I read somewhere that both Ivan and Sir Chips wanted him gone hence why you had Wenger constantly talking about "betrayal" and a "lack of support from people who should know better" last season.


2) I'm not an expert on these corporate governance matters for Private Ltd companies but if the entire board apart from Kroenke wanted Wenger out they could very well do that I believe. For all Kroenke's ownership power all he has is two votes on the board (him and his son). The others can simply outvote him. I'm guessing last year the other two members (Lord Harris & Friar) may have sided with Kroenke after he convinced them to stick with Wenger .... Sir Chips as well if I'm wrong about him.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

1) I didn't know about that tbh. Yes the guy is a dick, but then again most people like him always are. I thought I read somewhere that both Ivan and Sir Chips wanted him gone hence why you had Wenger constantly talking about "betrayal" and a "lack of support from people who should know better" last season.


2) I'm not an expert on these corporate governance matters for Private Ltd companies but if the entire board apart from Kroenke wanted Wenger out they could very well do that I believe. For all Kroenke's ownership power all he has is two votes on the board (him and his son). The others can simply outvote him. I'm guessing last year the other two members (Lord Harris & Friar) may have sided with Kroenke after he convinced them to stick with Wenger .... Sir Chips as well if I'm wrong about him.

Wenger got his contract directly from Kroenke. Technically you’re right but the board de facto serve at the pleasure of the majority share holder and they can just be replaced as they no longer own any shares with which to leverage him.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Wenger got his contract directly from Kroenke.

Well metaphorically possibly if Kroenke wielded enough power and influence to change the position of other board members & the CEO, but not literally. Kroenke can't literally draw up contracts on a one to one basis with Wenger and get him to sign and for that to hold any legal standing.

All Kroenke is, is the majority owner and a board member. It's Gazidis who's the CEO who has complete control of operations who gets to decide these things.

Gazidis could theoretically fire Wenger (an employee of the club) right now legally .... it's only that presumably he'd then himself get removed from his own position by the rest of the board who'd object to it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Kroenke is in total control. Nobody can outvote him on anything, as we saw when Wenger was awarded his new contract the day before the board was supposed to sit down and discuss it.

However, Shitbag Stan can't delist the club and make it his personal plaything. He needs 75% of the shares to do that. If he reached that mark he could force all the other shareholders to sell, he could mortgage off the club, he could stick his hand in the bank account and take what he wants. And he wouldn't have to make any of his activities public.

That's why Usmanov, love him or loathe him, is important. It's only his shareholding the prevents Slimeball Stan pocketing the whole club.

Ivan has no power whatsoever. He can be overruled at any time by Shoddy Stan and can be kicked out the door on a whim by the aforementioned scumbag.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well metaphorically possibly if Kroenke wielded enough power and influence to change the position of other board members & the CEO, but not literally. Kroenke can't literally draw up contracts on a one to one basis with Wenger and get him to sign and for that to hold any legal standing.

All Kroenke is, is the majority owner and a board member. It's Gazidis who's the CEO who has complete control of operations who gets to decide these things.

Gazidis could theoretically fire Wenger (an employee of the club) right now legally .... it's only that presumably he'd then himself get removed from his own position by the rest of the board who'd object to it.

The rest of the board aren’t football people. They are blue bloods with knighthoods for being part of the establishment

Kroenke didn’t draw up the contract, but he was the one who green lighted in and then the board rubber stamped it

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Kroenke is in total control. Nobody can outvote him on anything, as we saw when Wenger was awarded his new contract the day before the board was supposed to sit down and discuss it.

However, Shitbag Stan can't delist the club and make it his personal plaything. He needs 75% of the shares to do that. If he reached that mark he could force all the other shareholders to sell, he could mortgage off the club, he could stick his hand in the bank account and take what he wants. And he wouldn't have to make any of his activities public.

That's why Usmanov, love him or loathe him, is important. It's only his shareholding the prevents Slimeball Stan pocketing the whole club.

Ivan has no power whatsoever. He can be overruled at any time by Shoddy Stan and can be kicked out the door on a whim by the aforementioned scumbag.

Reluctantly I agree. That morbidly obese ball of slime appears to be the only barrier to Kroenkes total control

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Technically you’re right but the board de facto serve at the pleasure of the majority share holder and they can just be replaced as they no longer own any shares with which to leverage him.

Again, I'm not an expert on this but I don't think that's true.

Once they're on the board the only way they can be removed is if:

A) They resign
B) The other board members by a majority vote them off.

This is one of the many reasons it's imperative to stop Kroenke gaining sole ownership of the club and why despite how horrible he is, it's vital that Usmanov retains his share of the club.

Bibbles can perhaps shed further light on this, but this is exactly how Hicks & Gillett got screwed over at Liverpool despite being majority shareholders.

If the rest of the board members had any spine they could collectively between them isolate Kroenke and actually instigate some major changes at the club. Clearly they don't.

[Cripps]

Arsenal in talks over proposed Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang transfer and hope to sign Malcom for £40m | @Matt_Law_DT https://t.co/Pwnedv0eqY

Think Wenger is shitting it and realising how fucked we are:lol:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Arsenal in talks over proposed Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang transfer and hope to sign Malcom for £40m | @Matt_Law_DT https://t.co/Pwnedv0eqY

Think Gazidis is shitting it and realising how fucked we are:lol:

Corrected your post.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Malcom deal is dead according to Bordeaux, the club wanted him loaned back to them for the remainder of the season

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

What happened to Draxler? He's twice the player either of those two are and he's available for less than we wasted on Xhaka.

Draxler is the best player we can get right now and he might even come here? Or was he also one of the players who got fucked around by Wenker and now won't touch us? Losing track.

I like Draxler....but he has an awful lot to prove and I don't think he has proven anymore than Mikhi or Martial.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If Aubameyang is a panic buy, I hope we panic buy several more times, because several world class players would improve what we're seeing......yes even under Wenger.

[GP]

I panic bought a Greggs sausage roll on the way home.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Malcom deal is dead according to Bordeaux, the club wanted him loaned back to them for the remainder of the season

Give them Alexis.

[Marc Overmars]

United have reportedly rejected any deal for Alexis that includes Martial.

[Cripps]

No Mikhi in the Utd squad...

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

No Mikhi in the Utd squad...

Maybe don’t read too much into that

I was just looking and there have been more than a few games where he hasn’t even made the bench

[selassie]

Maybe don’t read too much into that

I was just looking and there have been more than a few games where he hasn’t even made the bench

I think he'll be a massive flop if we sign him and he'll be on mega wages too, I read he's on 200k per week at United.

He will be impossible to shift if he flops for us, I really hope we don't pursue him.

[Cripps]

Chelsea are trying to gatecrash United's bid to sign Sanchez after City pulled out of the running

:haha:

This is turning into a flipping circus.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Arsenal's number one fan speaks out.

https://i.imgur.com/7G46jZ7.png?1

[Marc Overmars]

Maybe don’t read too much into that

I was just looking and there have been more than a few games where he hasn’t even made the bench

Mourinho has pretty much said he’s not involved tonight because he’s unsettled.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Mourinho has pretty much said he’s not involved tonight because he’s unsettled.

Ah. Well I didn’t see that in fairness

I’d be unsettled if I was being sold to Arsenal :haha:

[Cripps]

Come on Chelsea offer him a silly amount.

Anyone but United.

[Gooner23]

How greedy is he that he's managed to price himself out of a move to City.

[GP]

How greedy is he that he's managed to price himself out of a move to City.

Yep, all about the money.

[Marc Overmars]

Stands to become the highest paid player in the league at United.

Can’t believe we’re even entertaining their offer after RVC. Disgrace.

[Cripps]

Arsenal closing in on Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang as head of recruitment calms club's concerns over attitude https://t.co/uUMNd5AZHp

Sven :bow:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Not sure if it's sensible to actually allow myself to believe we might actually replace Sanchez with a world class player.....

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal's number one fan speaks out.

https://i.imgur.com/7G46jZ7.png?1

I just laugh at these people now. But it's a free country and they are entitled to fuck the club right up the arsehole with their continued support for the guy they have watched fail for over 10 years. 13 years will be the charm then, for Geoff. Perhaps.

[Niall_Quinn]

How greedy is he that he's managed to price himself out of a move to City.

The club priced him out of the move. The gypos didn't want to pay more than 20 mill and I suspect they are still pissed about our antics at the end of the summer window. We are demanding 35 mill from them, last I heard. And it looks like we'll settle for 30 mill, which is a crazy amount if you think about it, for a player with under 4 months left on his contract.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not sure if it's sensible to actually allow myself to believe we might actually replace Sanchez with a world class player.....

We "closed in" on every single player on our "almost signed" list. And that's a long, long list.

By closing in I think we mean we've found the fax machine that Wenger hid. Now we just need to pay the electricity bill and we can get an insulting offer on the table.

[Cripps]

Replacing Walcott and Sanchez with Aubameyang and Mikhtarayan

Wenger :bow:

[AFC Leveller]

Apparently Wenger is not to keen on Aubameyang but Sven knows him and has assured the club he would fit right in. Mikhi is a very good player but is more an Ozil replacement than Alexis.

Also, if we did manage to sign Auba, id love to play 442/532 with him and Laca up front. no point having two deadly goal scorers and sticking them on the wing.

[Thierrymon]

Apparently Wenger is not to keen on Aubameyang but Sven knows him and has assured the club he would fit right in. Mikhi is a very good player but is more an Ozil replacement than Alexis.

Also, if we did manage to sign Auba, id love to play 442/532 with him and Laca up front. no point having two deadly goal scorers and sticking them on the wing.

Wenger is in charge, there is no doubt he will be put on the wing (if he signs).

[Penguin]

Lacazette will most likely be shifted to the wing.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Apparently Wenger is not to keen on Aubameyang but Sven knows him and has assured the club he would fit right in. Mikhi is a very good player but is more an Ozil replacement than Alexis.

Also, if we did manage to sign Auba, id love to play 442/532 with him and Laca up front. no point having two deadly goal scorers and sticking them on the wing.

Wenger will do the latter or stick one of them on the bench.

Because he’s a retard by the way :coffee:

[Cripps]

Mikhtarayan -- Lacazette -- Aubameyang

Wenger :bow:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Mikhtarayan -- Lacazette -- Aubameyang

Wenger :bow:

-- Mikhy --

-- Lacazette/Auby --

-- Giroud/Welbeck --


Wenger :doh:

[KSE Comedy Club]

The Sun are reporting that we are prepared to offer Giroud plus cash to Dortmund for Aubamayang.

That would be totally stupid when were are short of squad depth

[Power n Glory]

The Sun are reporting that we are prepared to offer Giroud plus cash to Dortmund for Aubamayang.

That would be totally stupid when were are short of squad depth

Giroud won't want to stay if we sign another striker. He's not prepared to sit on the bench.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Giroud won't want to stay if we sign another striker. He's not prepared to sit on the bench.

Well no, you are right I suppose. I guess it would depend on if we still can get Malcom as well.

Mind you, we should be used to only replacing and never strengthening

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Given the quagmire we've got ourselves into....any scenario where we end up with a world class player is a miracle.

[selassie]

Given the quagmire we've got ourselves into....any scenario where we end up with a world class player is a miracle.

Aye, I agree. We are literally feeding off the scraps now, picking up players clubs no longer want. Despite this Auba would be some coup.

I am not entirely confident we will get it done though.

[Marc Overmars]

Wenker is supposedly not sold on Auba because he’s behaved like a bit of cunt at Dortmund.

[Cripps]

Ornstein:

No agreement in place or close for Mkhitaryan to join Arsenal from Man Utd in Sanchez swap. He holds key & still mulling over #AFC / other clubs / staying #MUFC - if agrees to Arsenal, can happen quickly. Doesn’t see eye to eye with Mourinho but not desperate to go at all costs https://t.co/n95zzQzYdg

Hopefully Mikhi fecks it up :pray:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenker is supposedly not sold on Auba because he’s behaved like a bit of cunt at Dortmund.

Bit pot and kettle really - Wenker has behaved like a cunt for the past 10 years+

[Power n Glory]

Wenker is supposedly not sold on Auba because he’s behaved like a bit of cunt at Dortmund.

Reports say Sven has told Wenger not to worry about his behavior.

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/15/sven-mislintat-allays-arsene-wengers-fears-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-7232203/

[KSE Comedy Club]

Or in other words - "keep your fucking nose out Arsene!"


That report also says Giroud will go the other way

[Cripps]

5live reporter:

Understand Arsenal have offered a new deal to Jack Wilshere. The offer is less money than his current deal but it's heavily incentivised. #AFC

Makes sense tbh

[Cripps]

Ornstein:

Everton close to agreement with Arsenal to sign Theo Walcott for in excess of £20m. #EFC football/financial offer beat rivals. Likely played last #AFC game (397 apps, 108 goals). Money to go towards transfers - Aubameyang/Malcom + Mkhitaryan (Sanchez swap), unlikely to get all 3

Thank feck :dance:

[Niall_Quinn]

Given the quagmire we've got ourselves into....any scenario where we end up with a world class player is a miracle.

Ultimately this is true. I've been a lifelong fan and I'm shit at footie, but if the club rang me today asking me to sign - I'd have to think about it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenker is supposedly not sold on Auba because he’s behaved like a bit of cunt at Dortmund.

Wenker has behaved little bit massive cunt here for years - so probably shouldn't throw stones.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Ornstein:

Everton close to agreement with Arsenal to sign Theo Walcott for in excess of £20m. #EFC football/financial offer beat rivals. Likely played last #AFC game (397 apps, 108 goals). Money to go towards transfers - Aubameyang/Malcom + Mkhitaryan (Sanchez swap), unlikely to get all 3

Thank feck :dance:

Looking like Malcom is off the table now as the bordeaux president has changed his stance:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-warned-they-will-struggle-to-secure-malcom-in-january-as-bordeaux-hold-firm-over-brazilian-a3741031.html

[Niall_Quinn]

Ornstein:

Everton close to agreement with Arsenal to sign Theo Walcott for in excess of £20m. #EFC football/financial offer beat rivals. Likely played last #AFC game (397 apps, 108 goals). Money to go towards transfers - Aubameyang/Malcom + Mkhitaryan (Sanchez swap), unlikely to get all 3

Thank feck :dance:

I hope Theo can muster the energy to get the train north.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenker has behaved little bit massive cunt here for years - so probably shouldn't throw stones.

I said the same a few posts back - great minds and all that! :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Looking like Malcom is off the table now as the bordeaux president has changed his stance:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-warned-they-will-struggle-to-secure-malcom-in-january-as-bordeaux-hold-firm-over-brazilian-a3741031.html

Code for gimme more cash.

[Marc Overmars]

Theo. :wave:

[Niall_Quinn]

Dortmund now claiming Aubergine is back in favour and they need him.

Or more money, I assume.

So it begins. As the money pigs all head to the ring it's time to see some crazy numbers.

That decision not to offer 50 mill for Lemar back when the summer window opened could be Wenger's worst yet. If Lemar had arrived early Alexis and Ozil could be on new contracts now, and I'd much prefer that to anything that has been speculated so far this window.

We don't actually need a new striker. Laca's a decent player if Wenger could find a way to include him. Don't see how Auba fits in either, not to the tippy tappy shit routine.

And we don't need a winger either, unless Wenger is going to cut out the unique back to goal wing play nonsense.

We need a DM and at least one defender.

I suspect the same is true for most, but I have no idea who Malcolm is. The excitement seems to stem from the fact he's Brazilian. But why don't the gypos or Utd or the big Euro clubs want him? I smell second tier again.

Same question for Auba. Why is he not in more demand if he's all that? We seem to be ready to splash on a player who has been fucking around, isn't wanted elsewhere and will cost a shed load when all is said and done.

Then you see Alexis being fought over by both manc clubs and the chavs with Bayern and PSG already out of the running. And we're talking big fees for a player with 4 months left on his contract. Now that's demand. Alexis is the sort of player I'd like to be in the running for.

I wonder why we didn't offer him the 250-300k when he asked for it? Way, way back? That's what top talent costs.

If this is the beginning of the end for Wenger and he's on his way out in the summer and these proposed signings have been identified by the new team and represent the start of something rather than a panic splurge, okay, that works.

But if Wenger is staying and these are fill the gap options for players on the way out and nothing else is going to change then take the chequebook, lock it away and endure the remainder of Wenger's contract. Get rid of him and start from scratch.

What we definitely don't want is that confused middle option - which is where we seem to be right now. Papering cracks.

[Niall_Quinn]

Reports today that Nelson hasn't had his contract sorted and Marketing are sniffing around.

Wenger just hasn't twigged that you need to get these contracts done early. The spuds have Kane and Diver on 6 year contracts. That's why both would fetch 100 mill if they demanded a move. That's what I call sustainability - not the shit we do.

[Marc Overmars]

Mkhi unsure about joining us. :lol:

Can’t say you blame him.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Either these are all bullshit stories or we are, embarrassingly, in even worse trouble!

[selassie]

Dortmund now claiming Aubergine is back in favour and they need him.

Or more money, I assume.

So it begins. As the money pigs all head to the ring it's time to see some crazy numbers.

That decision not to offer 50 mill for Lemar back when the summer window opened could be Wenger's worst yet. If Lemar had arrived early Alexis and Ozil could be on new contracts now, and I'd much prefer that to anything that has been speculated so far this window.

We don't actually need a new striker. Laca's a decent player if Wenger could find a way to include him. Don't see how Auba fits in either, not to the tippy tappy shit routine.

And we don't need a winger either, unless Wenger is going to cut out the unique back to goal wing play nonsense.

We need a DM and at least one defender.

I suspect the same is true for most, but I have no idea who Malcolm is. The excitement seems to stem from the fact he's Brazilian. But why don't the gypos or Utd or the big Euro clubs want him? I smell second tier again.

Same question for Auba. Why is he not in more demand if he's all that? We seem to be ready to splash on a player who has been fucking around, isn't wanted elsewhere and will cost a shed load when all is said and done.

Then you see Alexis being fought over by both manc clubs and the chavs with Bayern and PSG already out of the running. And we're talking big fees for a player with 4 months left on his contract. Now that's demand. Alexis is the sort of player I'd like to be in the running for.

I wonder why we didn't offer him the 250-300k when he asked for it? Way, way back? That's what top talent costs.

If this is the beginning of the end for Wenger and he's on his way out in the summer and these proposed signings have been identified by the new team and represent the start of something rather than a panic splurge, okay, that works.

But if Wenger is staying and these are fill the gap options for players on the way out and nothing else is going to change then take the chequebook, lock it away and endure the remainder of Wenger's contract. Get rid of him and start from scratch.

What we definitely don't want is that confused middle option - which is where we seem to be right now. Papering cracks.

Now that we are struggling to complete any deal as it seems the case this is the part when we go after cheap and unsuitable players just to add numbers to the squad.

You just watch as we go from being linked to Auba to signing "Elneny" types, only at Arsenal :lol:

[selassie]

Code for gimme more cash.

Yep. We won't complete these deals due to our screwed up principled stance, it's bonkers.

[Marc Overmars]

Either these are all bullshit stories or we are, embarrassingly, in even worse trouble!

You know what’s worse than having your best player taken off you by United?

Having it done twice.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Sky sports reporting this:


Danny Welbeck could be set for a move to Besiktas, according to Turkish newspaper Posta.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has preferred to use Welbeck as a substitute this season, and having sold Cenk Tosun to Everton, Besiktas are being liked with the 27-year-old Englishman.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11209857/arsenal-transfer-news-and-rumours-malcom-theo-walcott-and-danny-welbeck

[Cripps]

:lol: are we gonna have an attack to put out next week

[Cripps]

Walcott medical this afternoon apparently :popcorn:

And

Sources close to Borussia Dortmund tell me that they expect #AFC to make opening offer of £35m plus Giroud for Aubameyang. More here: https://t.co/8nT1toWrQN

[The Emirates Gallactico]

FFS I hope Wenger doesn't piss off Sven by undermining his decisions. That's the reason he left Dortmund in the first place - him and Tuchel fell out specatuarily.

One's a talented operators who's in tune with modern football - the other is a relic of an old era.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Walcott medical this afternoon apparently :popcorn:

And

Sources close to Borussia Dortmund tell me that they expect #AFC to make opening offer of £35m plus Giroud for Aubameyang. More here: https://t.co/8nT1toWrQN

further to that, although he could be taking the piss:


Aubameyang has dropped a big transfer hint on Instagram as Arsenal ready a bid for the Borussia Dortmund man.

The Gunners are preparing to table an opening offer for Aubameyang of £35m plus Olivier Giroud and are confident a deal is possible.

And speaking to Dortmund team-mate Jadon Sancho on Instagram, Aubameyang pleaded with his friend to take him to London.

And Aubameyang said: "Can you bring me to London one day? I don't know, just for fun. Because you told me London is on fire!"

Sancho spent his youth career at Watford and Manchester City before signing his first professional deal at Borussia Dortmund in August.

[AFC Leveller]

The Bordeaux president has stated they have had no talks with Arsenal at all and Dortmund have also said they have had no bids for Aubameyang. Considering Mikhi will probably reject us, it looks like we'll have to field Iwboi and Welbeck for the rest of the season.

[Bumble]

The Bordeaux president has stated they have had no talks with Arsenal at all and Dortmund have also said they have had no bids for Aubameyang. Considering Mikhi will probably reject us, it looks like we'll have to field Iwboi and Welbeck for the rest of the season.
but if we can keep it tight at the back... we can grind out 1-0 wins no worries.

[Özim]

Is this one of those times when we sell out best player then have some marketing BS about some top players coming and it never happens and we end up with noone or some nobody?

Seems the Malcolm, Mikhi and Aubameyang deals are all in the balance at the moment, really wouldn't put it past us, you can't trust this club to do anything right.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Is this one of those times when we sell out best player then have some marketing BS about some top players coming and it never happens and we end up with noone or some nobody?

Seems the Malcolm, Mikhi and Aubameyang deals are all in the balance at the moment, really wouldn't put it past us, you can't trust this club to do anything right.

Kind of past the point of caring.

For me I think players are reluctant to join Arsenal. Players talk, a lot of our players all want out.

[Cripps]

We're negotiating with that fat pig agent of Mikhi's hence the complexities apparently as he's trying to get the biggest cut possible for himself.

[Niall_Quinn]

So basically everyone is leaving and we are signing everyone.

#FakeNews

It's what the media does best.

Last summer Lemar was in and out of London like a rampant rabbit, according to the media. Deal Done! Lemar - Welcome to Arsenal! But in reality all that had really happened was we'd lowballed a few bids and the deal was nowhere. Hell, we were even signing Mbappe at one point, that's how ridiculous it was. Now we're signing Aubemayang and Malcolm and bringing in Mikytarian and the rest.

Reading between the lines, sounds to me like the real business done in this window will be relegating Wenger to the sidelines. If we can manage that then it's a good window. If all we end up with is internal strife then all we've succeeded in doing is making a bigger mess.

Alexis will go. We know that much. Looks like Theo will go too and Coquelin has already gone. We've signed some Greek kid for 2.2 mill who might be ready to step up some time in 2020, although with the state of our defence we'll probably throw him in to sink or swim. Sounds like we get 20 mill for Alexis after the agent pockets 10-15 mill. Sounds like 20 mill for Theo. Coquelin, 12.5 mill.

So we're about plus 50 mill at the moment. Giroud's worth 25 mill I suppose. So that takes us to 75 mill. And that's what we have to play with, because we know we won't be spending any of that precious trove in the bank. That's needed for "stuff" they never explain.

75 mill for Malcolm, Auba and Miki? That doesn't add up at all. Auba will probably end up costing 75 mill alone, once we reach trolley dash, desperation point. Malcolm is 45 mill now, and you can add to that as the window winds down. Miki would eat up a chunk of the Alexis deal. We'd have to stick another 50 mill on top to genuinely get these deals done and that's never happening in a January window. Not if Wenger gets his way.

In the best circumstances you hear Wenger going on about how he likes the player, how he has qualiteeeeee. What's the chances of signing a player he doesn't like? And that's where the transfer window is for us this January. Who wins? Sven or Wenger. And supposedly the new team hasn't even started work yet. According to the media.

It's all smoke and mirrors to keep the fans distracted while they set up another round of profit taking in the transfer window. Wait and see.

[Niall_Quinn]

We're negotiating with that fat pig agent of Mikhi's hence the complexities apparently as he's trying to get the biggest cut possible for himself.

They're all fat pigs. Everyone rolling in the shit for as much as they can get. That's what the game is now. The fattest pigs of all live at our place.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

So basically everyone is leaving and we are signing everyone.

#FakeNews

It's what the media does best.

Last summer Lemar was in and out of London like a rampant rabbit, according to the media. Deal Done! Lemar - Welcome to Arsenal! But in reality all that had really happened was we'd lowballed a few bids and the deal was nowhere. Hell, we were even signing Mbappe at one point, that's how ridiculous it was. Now we're signing Aubemayang and Malcolm and bringing in Mikytarian and the rest.

Reading between the lines, sounds to me like the real business done in this window will be relegating Wenger to the sidelines. If we can manage that then it's a good window. If all we end up with is internal strife then all we've succeeded in doing is making a bigger mess.

Alexis will go. We know that much. Looks like Theo will go too and Coquelin has already gone. We've signed some Greek kid for 2.2 mill who might be ready to step up some time in 2020, although with the state of our defence we'll probably throw him in to sink or swim. Sounds like we get 20 mill for Alexis after the agent pockets 10-15 mill. Sounds like 20 mill for Theo. Coquelin, 12.5 mill.

So we're about plus 50 mill at the moment. Giroud's worth 25 mill I suppose. So that takes us to 75 mill. And that's what we have to play with, because we know we won't be spending any of that precious trove in the bank. That's needed for "stuff" they never explain.

75 mill for Malcolm, Auba and Miki? That doesn't add up at all. Auba will probably end up costing 75 mill alone, once we reach trolley dash, desperation point. Malcolm is 45 mill now, and you can add to that as the window winds down. Miki would eat up a chunk of the Alexis deal. We'd have to stick another 50 mill on top to genuinely get these deals done and that's never happening in a January window. Not if Wenger gets his way.

In the best circumstances you hear Wenger going on about how he likes the player, how he has qualiteeeeee. What's the chances of signing a player he doesn't like? And that's where the transfer window is for us this January. Who wins? Sven or Wenger. And supposedly the new team hasn't even started work yet. According to the media.

It's all smoke and mirrors to keep the fans distracted while they set up another round of profit taking in the transfer window. Wait and see.

The only issue with that is that as Kroenke doesn’t own the club making a profit in the transfer window benefits no one

Even in this day and age of corrupt business practices, embezzlement is still embezzlement. If he owned the club I could definitely buy asset stripping. But I think it’s more no fucker wants to join Arsenal.

And Dortmund, Aube has scored the vast majority of their goals, his contract is not up in six months. What’s the motivation to sell?

[Cripps]

Asked if the club are trying to sign Alexis Sanchez, Conte says: 'I don't think so.'

:doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Asked if the club are trying to sign Alexis Sanchez, Conte says: 'I don't think so.'

:doh:

That's us trying to keep Utd interested now the gypos have dropped out.

[Niall_Quinn]

The only issue with that is that as Kroenke doesn’t own the club making a profit in the transfer window benefits no one

Even in this day and age of corrupt business practices, embezzlement is still embezzlement. If he owned the club I could definitely buy asset stripping. But I think it’s more no fucker wants to join Arsenal.

And Dortmund, Aube has scored the vast majority of their goals, his contract is not up in six months. What’s the motivation to sell?

Which is what Dortmund said this morning.

Transfer windows are all about price gouging and paying off the hangers-on. They'll sell if we do what the gypos are Utd do, go in with an offer too big to refuse. If we are hoping to play the Wenger value game though, forget it.

[Niall_Quinn]

5live reporter:

Understand Arsenal have offered a new deal to Jack Wilshere. The offer is less money than his current deal but it's heavily incentivised. #AFC

Makes sense tbh

This is a disgrace. Jack has been loyal, he's Arsenal through and through, he actually wants to be here and he gives it everything when he's on the pitch. Yes, he's been desperately unlucky with injuries, but how is that different to any of our players? The likes of Walcott and Welbeck are earning more than him and deliver as much as Jack has done while stuck in the treatment room - nothing. Who else is getting a pay cut? And what is the point of bonuses at Arsenal when there's no chance of us competing? Jack can't make us competitive on his own. You might as well agree to pay such bonuses in Monopoly money because they'll never happen anyway.

Now we end up with a player who knows an injury hits him directly in the pocket. I wonder how that will work out? Good job Ozil's not on a contract like that or we'd never see him.

Joke club. If they can get it wrong they will get it wrong. Either pay him what he's worth, which is a damn sight more than Theo Walcott or Danny Welbeck btw, or tell him he should leave. He might leave anyway I suppose, now he's been kicked in the nuts at a time when every other fucker in the game is raking in the cash.

Shouldn't the goal be to try and keep as many of our decent and half decent players as possible? Because who else are we getting? Messi? Unless we win the Europa I doubt we'll even be in Europe next season, and then who wants to come here?

[KSE Comedy Club]

This is a disgrace. Jack has been loyal, he's Arsenal through and through, he actually wants to be here and he gives it everything when he's on the pitch. Yes, he's been desperately unlucky with injuries, but how is that different to any of our players? The likes of Walcott and Welbeck are earning more than him and deliver as much as Jack has done while stuck in the treatment room - nothing. Who else is getting a pay cut? And what is the point of bonuses at Arsenal when there's no chance of us competing? Jack can't make us competitive on his own. You might as well agree to pay such bonuses in Monopoly money because they'll never happen anyway.

Now we end up with a player who knows an injury hits him directly in the pocket. I wonder how that will work out? Good job Ozil's not on a contract like that or we'd never see him.

Joke club. If they can get it wrong they will get it wrong. Either pay him what he's worth, which is a damn sight more than Theo Walcott or Danny Welbeck btw, or tell him he should leave. He might leave anyway I suppose, now he's been kicked in the nuts at a time when every other fucker in the game is raking in the cash.

Shouldn't the goal be to try and keep as many of our decent and half decent players as possible? Because who else are we getting? Messi? Unless we win the Europa I doubt we'll even be in Europe next season, and then who wants to come here?
:gp:

More things to frown about at AFC, it just gets worse tbh.

WTF has Jack done to upset Wenker exactly?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

:gp:

More things to frown about at AFC, it just gets worse tbh.

WTF has Jack done to upset Wenker exactly?

Showing up the lazy players who don’t give a fuck

[Cripps]

This is a disgrace. Jack has been loyal, he's Arsenal through and through, he actually wants to be here and he gives it everything when he's on the pitch. Yes, he's been desperately unlucky with injuries, but how is that different to any of our players? The likes of Walcott and Welbeck are earning more than him and deliver as much as Jack has done while stuck in the treatment room - nothing. Who else is getting a pay cut? And what is the point of bonuses at Arsenal when there's no chance of us competing? Jack can't make us competitive on his own. You might as well agree to pay such bonuses in Monopoly money because they'll never happen anyway.

Now we end up with a player who knows an injury hits him directly in the pocket. I wonder how that will work out? Good job Ozil's not on a contract like that or we'd never see him.

Joke club. If they can get it wrong they will get it wrong. Either pay him what he's worth, which is a damn sight more than Theo Walcott or Danny Welbeck btw, or tell him he should leave. He might leave anyway I suppose, now he's been kicked in the nuts at a time when every other fucker in the game is raking in the cash.

Shouldn't the goal be to try and keep as many of our decent and half decent players as possible? Because who else are we getting? Messi? Unless we win the Europa I doubt we'll even be in Europe next season, and then who wants to come here?

He's a crock.

Incentive based contract makes complete sense.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

He's a crock.

Incentive based contract makes complete sense.

Jesus

You’ve been here about three months and this might be the first time you’ve made a salient argument which makes me think, actually that’s a good point.

[Niall_Quinn]

:gp:

More things to frown about at AFC, it just gets worse tbh.

WTF has Jack done to upset Wenker exactly?

Maybe his injuries haven't measured up to Diaby's?

[Niall_Quinn]

He's a crock.

Incentive based contract makes complete sense.

It makes sense if that's the general policy for all players. Is it?

When did Diaby get a pay cut? What about Theo? Welbeck? Santi? Gibbs? Ramsey plays about half a season.

At a time where money is like confetti, how does this policy help the club? Nickel and dime Jack's contract and then pay shite more to sit on the bench?

Either commit to the player or get rid. This in-between bullshit is so typically Arsenal.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Dortmund now claiming Aubergine is back in favour and they need him.

Or more money, I assume.

So it begins. As the money pigs all head to the ring it's time to see some crazy numbers.

That decision not to offer 50 mill for Lemar back when the summer window opened could be Wenger's worst yet. If Lemar had arrived early Alexis and Ozil could be on new contracts now, and I'd much prefer that to anything that has been speculated so far this window.

We don't actually need a new striker. Laca's a decent player if Wenger could find a way to include him. Don't see how Auba fits in either, not to the tippy tappy shit routine.

And we don't need a winger either, unless Wenger is going to cut out the unique back to goal wing play nonsense.

We need a DM and at least one defender.

I suspect the same is true for most, but I have no idea who Malcolm is. The excitement seems to stem from the fact he's Brazilian. But why don't the gypos or Utd or the big Euro clubs want him? I smell second tier again.

Same question for Auba. Why is he not in more demand if he's all that? We seem to be ready to splash on a player who has been fucking around, isn't wanted elsewhere and will cost a shed load when all is said and done.

Then you see Alexis being fought over by both manc clubs and the chavs with Bayern and PSG already out of the running. And we're talking big fees for a player with 4 months left on his contract. Now that's demand. Alexis is the sort of player I'd like to be in the running for.

I wonder why we didn't offer him the 250-300k when he asked for it? Way, way back? That's what top talent costs.

If this is the beginning of the end for Wenger and he's on his way out in the summer and these proposed signings have been identified by the new team and represent the start of something rather than a panic splurge, okay, that works.

But if Wenger is staying and these are fill the gap options for players on the way out and nothing else is going to change then take the chequebook, lock it away and endure the remainder of Wenger's contract. Get rid of him and start from scratch.

What we definitely don't want is that confused middle option - which is where we seem to be right now. Papering cracks.

I've no idea about Malcom's geniune qualities so I won't speculate on how he might contribute here.

Aubameyang is a world class player though. I was happy with Lacazette last summer as I knew he was a finisher (recent drought aside...hmm?) but I would have much preferred and actually wanted Aubameyang as he is significantly better, isn't so reliant on service, is better than Mane(who most of us would also take) and has pushed Lewandowski in Germany very close on the goals front whilst playing for an inferior team who have nearly all their best players cherry picked by Bayern.

If we sign him we should thank our lucky stars we aren't still relying on the immobile Giroud to steer us to glory and would actually have some forward options with him and Laca. I like Giroud but he isn't the profile of player most ideal for a free flowing attack minded Wenger side (as rare a sight as that may be these days).

But as I said last week I'm still uncomfortable with it all until we've actually signed a decent player. Transfer wise that is.....I realise Wenger is still a major problem and that you think we shouldn't make another signing whilst he is here, but if we're going to make signings, they might as well be quality ones.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I think the devil is in the detail on Wilshere's offer. If the incentive portion of the deal is so substantial that it almost makes the basic package insulting (to a top professional) then I think that is poorly judged. To pluck a figure purely out of the air, I don't think more than 33% of it should be incentive based if we really want to keep him.

If we aren't actually bothered about keeping him then of course we will just offer something that slightly undermines the fact his influence at the club is growing again.

[Niall_Quinn]

I've no idea about Malcom's geniune qualities so I won't speculate on how he might contribute here.

Aubameyang is a world class player though. I was happy with Lacazette last summer as I knew he was a finisher (recent drought aside...hmm?) but I would have much preferred and actually wanted Aubameyang as he is significantly better, isn't so reliant on service, is better than Mane(who most of us would also take) and has pushed Lewandowski in Germany very close on the goals front whilst playing for an inferior team who cherry pick all of Dortmund's players.

If we sign him we should thank our lucky stars we aren't still relying on the immobile Giroud to steer us to glory and would actually have some forward options with him and Laca. I like Giroud but he isn't the profile of player most ideal for a free flowing attack minded Wenger side (as rare a sight as that may be these days).

But as I said last week I'm still uncomfortable with it all until we've actually signed a decent player. Transfer wise that is.....I realise Wenger is still a major problem and that you think we shouldn't make another signing whilst he is here, but if we're going to make signings, they might as well be quality ones.

In truth, the money will be wasted anyway, one way or another. So I don't have an issue with Wenger wasting cash on a fast, mobile striker and then playing him on the wing with his back to goal. I mean I obviously have a huge issue with that under normal circumstances, but have gone beyond caring. So blow the money for a cheap thrill lasting a few weeks until Wenger finds a way to nullify all of the player's strengths. And he will.

But say we were genuinely trying to undo the damage now and start again. You don't let the person who made the mess run the show do you? And yet Wenger is still here, so I guess we have no intentions of fixing the problems.

It's a lose/ lose. But I accept, your version of lose is more entertaining than mine. Short term at least. So why not? Might as well. Generates a spark of interest where there was none.

Provided we don't hear fans claiming Wenger has turned a corner and deserves a new contract.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think the devil is in the detail on Wilshere's offer. If the incentive portion of the deal is so substantial that it almost makes the basic package insulting (to a top professional) then I think that is poorly judged. To pluck a figure purely out of the air, I don't think more than 33% of it should be incentive based if we really want to keep him.

If we aren't actually bothered about keeping him then of course we will just offer something that slightly undermines the fact his influence at the club is growing again.

He was on 90kpw with incentives taking it to 120kpw. Now he'll been offered 80kpw with incentives taking it to the same 120kpw. So it's a straight basic pay cut.

According to the newspapers. So all of that might be completely wrong.

The thing is, what are the incentives? Stay fit? Win the PL? Qualify for the CL? He can't guarantee staying fit, no player can. And the big incentives are so far out of our reach as to be classed as fantasy.

If the incentive is to turn up and give a shit then I guess he'll do pretty well. Wish all our players were on a contract like that. Half of them would starve.

[Niall_Quinn]

Btw, I'm talking relative terms here. 80 thousand quid a week is still a ludicrous amount of cash and far from a disgraceful offer. But this is football, the land of the lunatics. Absolute dross players are on 80k these days. Even worse players are on 120k, cough, cough, Theo Walcott.

[Özim]

It's ironic Wilshere has for the 1st time in his career managed to stay fit and perform when he's almost out of contract, reminds me of a few others, then when they get their new contracts they go back to being injured and performing awfully.

Incentive based is based for Wilshere, doesn't deserve any different, he's not performed over the years and has been injured consistently, that's ignoring his off the field antics.

We might not have applied the same rules in the past but you have to start somewhere.

[Power n Glory]

This is a disgrace. Jack has been loyal, he's Arsenal through and through, he actually wants to be here and he gives it everything when he's on the pitch. Yes, he's been desperately unlucky with injuries, but how is that different to any of our players? The likes of Walcott and Welbeck are earning more than him and deliver as much as Jack has done while stuck in the treatment room - nothing. Who else is getting a pay cut? And what is the point of bonuses at Arsenal when there's no chance of us competing? Jack can't make us competitive on his own. You might as well agree to pay such bonuses in Monopoly money because they'll never happen anyway.

Now we end up with a player who knows an injury hits him directly in the pocket. I wonder how that will work out? Good job Ozil's not on a contract like that or we'd never see him.

Joke club. If they can get it wrong they will get it wrong. Either pay him what he's worth, which is a damn sight more than Theo Walcott or Danny Welbeck btw, or tell him he should leave. He might leave anyway I suppose, now he's been kicked in the nuts at a time when every other fucker in the game is raking in the cash.

Shouldn't the goal be to try and keep as many of our decent and half decent players as possible? Because who else are we getting? Messi? Unless we win the Europa I doubt we'll even be in Europe next season, and then who wants to come here?

If Jack is happy to take a pay cut…it’s fine by me. As long as he stays at the club. But his representatives can’t advise him to sign that thing without certain guarantees. How can he? How can he play freely and secure if he knows once bad tackle could have effect his earnings? If he has a slight twinge in his ankle, does he play through the pain or try to rest to avoid getting injured? Or does he push himself recklessly because he’s incentivised by money? Also, Wenger is not the best when it comes to managing fitness. Will it just be Jack responsible for injuries or will his lawyers get involved if injured and they feel he’s been overplayed? Say it’s the reverse and Wenger does that shit where he won’t let a player finish a game or keeps them out of the team because he’s trying to avoid activating a bonus? It’s not beyond him to pull such stunts because we’ve seen it happen with Walcott and Ox when they first signed.

[Globalgunner]

It makes sense if that's the general policy for all players. Is it?

When did Diaby get a pay cut? What about Theo? Welbeck? Santi? Gibbs? Ramsey plays about half a season.

At a time where money is like confetti, how does this policy help the club? Nickel and dime Jack's contract and then pay shite more to sit on the bench?

Either commit to the player or get rid. This in-between bullshit is so typically Arsenal.

I think this is a symptom that the new guys are getting involved in these things. When the other deadweights contracts are up they will face the same changes.

[KSE Comedy Club]

It makes sense if that's the general policy for all players. Is it?

When did Diaby get a pay cut? What about Theo? Welbeck? Santi? Gibbs? Ramsey plays about half a season.

At a time where money is like confetti, how does this policy help the club? Nickel and dime Jack's contract and then pay shite more to sit on the bench?

Either commit to the player or get rid. This in-between bullshit is so typically Arsenal.
Exactly.

It's absolutely fine if this is our policy with players and it is across the board.

When you just bring it in now when our player/contract situation is fucking abysmal and with the one player who actually seems to care and wants to stay at the club - fine it is not.

[Cripps]

Benge:

The fact that Mkhitaryan hasn't been great under Mourinho hardly means he's a bad player. Tbf attackers not rated by Mourinho tend to do quite well afterwards (De Bruyne, Salah, Lukaku, Cuadrado)


I agree.

[Cripps]

Mikhi and Sanchez straight swap apparently. No fee.

[Marc Overmars]

Sounds like if Mkhi doesn’t want to come here the deal is dead.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think this is a symptom that the new guys are getting involved in these things. When the other deadweights contracts are up they will face the same changes.

Maybe. But they haven't started work yet, apparently.

So does this mean Wenger gets a pay cut and then has to make it up by winning shit?

Thought not. He's be living under a bridge if he had a contract like that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sounds like if Mkhi doesn’t want to come here the deal is dead.

Would much rather keep Alexis until the summer anyway. Ten times the player. Mikhi might be off form, might not fit into Maureen's plans, etc, etc, but I watched him playing a couple of times now and he was every bit as frustrating as the shite we already have. He's got the brain of Walcott, the first touch of Gervinho and the composure of Welbeck.

[selassie]

Mikhi and Sanchez straight swap apparently. No fee.

Jesus Christ?! Seriously? :faint:

[selassie]

It makes sense if that's the general policy for all players. Is it?

When did Diaby get a pay cut? What about Theo? Welbeck? Santi? Gibbs? Ramsey plays about half a season.

At a time where money is like confetti, how does this policy help the club? Nickel and dime Jack's contract and then pay shite more to sit on the bench?

Either commit to the player or get rid. This in-between bullshit is so typically Arsenal.

Yep with you on this. Most if not all of Jack's injuries have been impact injuries not muscular injuries, he's pretty much our only decent Midfielder we have, what on earth are we doing here?!

[KSE Comedy Club]

What's the betting that, in this window, we sell Walcott for £20m, pocket the cash, fuck up the Sanchez deal and end up with no one?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

What's the betting that, in this window, we sell Walcott for £20m, pocket the cash, fuck up the Sanchez deal and end up with no one?

I don’t know if anyone is offering that specific bet but they wouldn’t get many takers. Not much in the way of returns....short odds

[Cripps]

What's the betting that, in this window, we sell Walcott for £20m, pocket the cash, fuck up the Sanchez deal and end up with no one?

Let's hope so.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Let's hope so.

Well it would be worthwhile to see Wenger trying to justify losing Jack, Sanchez and Ozil for nothing and not finishing 4th despite having all three to use.

[Marc Overmars]

Some rags saying personal terms with Auba have been agreed.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Well it would be worthwhile to see Wenger trying to justify losing Jack, Sanchez and Ozil for nothing and not finishing 4th despite having all three to use.

Assume you meant not losing them....

If this Aubameyang stuff is legit...perhaps we can nick Subotic off em too :d

[Cripps]

Chelsea approach West Ham about signing Andy Carroll on permanent deal | @Matt_Law_DT reports https://t.co/A6KVpYXufv

Chelsea sign carroll, we sign aubameyang

Wenger :bow:

[Cripps]

Let me go! Aubameyang pleads with Borussia Dortmund to let him join Arsenal https://t.co/nZo3x9GWQi

We know why he wants to come :bow:

Wenger :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Chelsea approach West Ham about signing Andy Carroll on permanent deal | @Matt_Law_DT reports https://t.co/A6KVpYXufv

Chelsea sign carroll, we sign aubameyang

Wenger :bow:

LOL

Andy Carrol

WTF?

[Niall_Quinn]

Gypos back in for Alexis. So says the Mirror. Apparently a last ditch effort. I wonder why they are fucking around when they have money to burn?

[Niall_Quinn]

Does Mislinstat always dress like a tramp, I wonder? Or is the photo doing the rounds the worst they could find?

[Cripps]

Gypos back in for Alexis. So says the Mirror. Apparently a last ditch effort. I wonder why they are fucking around when they have money to burn?

:pray:

[Marc Overmars]

Not sure about sending Giroud the other way.

I mean Laca and Auba up top is good on paper but it’s wafer thin after that and even Laca has a lot to prove still.

Welbeck is never going to be a goal scorer of any substance so we’d really be going all in with the big money forwards.

[Niall_Quinn]

If Auba is coming here - IF, IF, IF - we need to keep Ozil and stop fucking around with Jack. No point having a player like that unless somebody can set him up with the chances. And we need to play 2 or 3 up top, not force Laca out to the wing.

That means changing our game and I don't see where Bif fits into that. Sub at best and with a world cup coming up he won't settle for that.

[Thierrymon]

A few websites and papers reporting that Reiss Nelson is out of contract in the summer and will likely be leaving arsenal at the end of the season :doh:.

[Penguin]

Not sure about sending Giroud the other way.

I mean Laca and Auba up top is good on paper but it’s wafer thin after that and even Laca has a lot to prove still.

Welbeck is never going to be a goal scorer of any substance so we’d really be going all in with the big money forwards.

It is useful to have a 'plan B' too, Giroud has bailed us out with headed goals at times when we can't break through. But if he's the dealbreaker for Aubameyang then I'd kick Giroud out the door and drive him to the airport myself.

[Marc Overmars]

Theo passes his Everton medical.

[Power n Glory]

I’ll miss that guy. Hopefully, he can reclaim some credibility at Everton. Scoring over 100 goals for Arsenal from the wing and for a player of his ability is no easy task. Was never developed as a winger. He was a number 9 playing on the wing. Wish him all the best.

[hobson's choice]

So this whole situation is dependent on some bum ass player who can't get a game over Jesse Lingaard. Sell Alexis to Chelsea and lets get on with our business

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

It is useful to have a 'plan B' too, Giroud has bailed us out with headed goals at times when we can't break through. But if he's the dealbreaker for Aubameyang then I'd kick Giroud out the door and drive him to the airport myself.

My thoughts exactly.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

For me Walcott is the epitome of Wengers Arsenal 2006 onwards

For years massively inconsistent, frustrating because you know the talent is in there and there are some brilliant performances intermixed with average and sometimes sheer awfulness.

And now so lacking in character and confidence just failing.

Of course Arsenal has to take massive responsibility for his failure to meet his potential, but so does Theo himself. Definitely don’t in anyway think badly of him though, I’m glad he got his century of goals before leaving us and I hope he’s able to rebuild his career at Everton.

[Power n Glory]

My thoughts exactly.

We could easily find a Plan B striker for cheap and that knows he'll be a sub. Would be nuts to reject a trade deal because Giroud's involved.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So this whole situation is dependent on some bum ass player who can't get a game over Jesse Lingaard. Sell Alexis to Chelsea and lets get on with our business

Our business of flogging half the squad without replacements? :d