Winter Transfer Despair and Bafflement.

[selassie]

I love that we’ve got a delegation out there yet are still contriving to fuck it up.

Classic Arsenal! We’ll come back with nothing and then Wenger will proudly proclaim that “we won’t pay a penny over our valuation of zee player, loooook we have to respect the financial principles of this club, loook we already have 4 world class strikers, we have Lacazette, Welbeck, Giroud, Akpom and don’t forget Iwobi & Ramsey can play there too, where do I put all these players?”

[Cripps]

Sanchez earning 500k a week was discussed on Question Time :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Aubameyang named in Borussia Dortmund squad as Arsenal fail to agree fee for striker.


Wenger: “If something happens, it happens. If not I’m perfectly happy with the squad I have.”

Perfectly happy? Having sold 3 players and brought in one, plus a kid who is now suddenly ready for the first team? "Perfect" must have a similar definition to "ideal" in Wengerese.

[Ralpheroo72]

Aubameyang isn’t coming, sooner we all realise that, the better we’ll all be. Arsenal pulling the wool over the fans eyes again. This all coming from the 6th richest club in world football, if Deloitte are to be believed.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sanchez earning 500k a week was discussed on Question Time :lol:

All the lefty shitbags went with the usual. Nobody thought to ask the cunts what business of theirs it is, unless they happen to be paying to turn up at Utd. Then they'd have a case. Or if they are paying to watch football on Sky or BT, but you get the impression these cunts would be too busy watching child porn instead.

The Tory gave the best answer.

"Provided he is paying 45% in tax, 12% in employees national insurance and 16% in employers national insurance then it's fine, because we need the money for the NHS."

Think about that.

And people claim taxation is not a crime.

Of course the poor, retarded audience didn't think about it. Instead they clapped like performing seals and then bent over and spread themselves for another round a let's play government. Whatever unspeakable act I committed in a past life to be condemned to living among these fucks, I just don't know.

[LDG]

Whatever unspeakable act I committed in a past life to be condemned to living among these fucks, I just don't know.

You were probably either a Tory MP or a Vicar in a former life.

Next time, knowing your luck, you’ll come back as you #rodders

[Özim]

Wenger:


Injury news from Arsene Wenger, who says Olivier Giroud, who has not played for the first team since 19 December, will be in the squad for Tuesday's visit to Swansea, but it is "too early" for Danny Welbeck to return.

Wenger adds that despite reports, Giroud was never part of any deal to sign Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang from Borussia Dortmund.

Asked about transfers he says: "It’s still possible, we are far from being closed. I don’t give you any special name but at the moment we are not close to signing anybody.


"If nobody comes in, nobody goes out, maybe one or two young players out on loan."


Makes me laugh, don't know why he bothers saying anything, we're never close to signing anyone, we spend entire transfer windows apparently actively searching for players and if we do sign anyone it's right at the every end, sounds to me like they're doing nothing most of the time.

Only reason we got Mhkiti is because he was essentially free and we ended up savng money because his wages are lower than Sanchez salary. Wenger has ruined this football club, so little about it to actually like these days, everything it does is painful to watch, it literally has no redeeming features, amazing to see how things have changed, there was a time I loved Arsenal and loved watching matches and looked forward to matches, nowadays I really couldn't care less about the matches, what gets me is that noone at the club actually cares about the fans.

I have to laugh when people say Wenger loves the club, he loves football, but after that he looks after number 1.

[Letters]

:pal:

[Gooner23]

We've definitely fucked the Auba deal. Another 'we tried' signing. Wankers.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I don’t care. The Club has one clear priority and that is getting Wenger the fuck out of here.

Unfortunately they don’t see it that way.

Consequently it doesn’t matter who we sign or who we lose.


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[selassie]

We've definitely fucked the Auba deal. Another 'we tried' signing. Wankers.

Yep it's looking that way. I've been reading that Dortmund have so far refused to budge from their 60million valuation for the player.

We know how much they want and have known since we went over there to complete the deal, why are we going in with bids of 15 and 10 million under, just pay the fucking price if you want the player.

We did exactly the same thing all Summer with Lemar until the very last day when we panicked after agreeing to sell Sanchez.

So tired of Arsenal in the market, it's pathetic.

[Cripps]

:pal:

:faint:

[Niall_Quinn]

You were probably either a Tory MP or a Vicar in a former life.

Next time, knowing your luck, you’ll come back as you #rodders

I'd know if I'd have been a Tory MP. I'd have strange compulsions to buy lollipops and duct tape.

Probably a vicar then.

Fuck.

[Niall_Quinn]

So the team was sent to Germany to get them out of the way then? Clever.

Meanwhile the chavs might come in with a bid for Bif. So we might end up with more profit than we'd bargained for.

It's all good!

[Letters]

Ideal situations :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Getting EXCITING now!

WBA have signed a replacement for Evans, apparently.

So that deal could be on again, big time. Wow!

I just hope our transfer team doesn't have to rush to a motorway cafe on the M40 because that would place some lovely time pressure on the Aubameyang and Messi negotiations.

Even if that happened, even if we didn't manage to land Auba, getting a world class player like Mkhitaryan who could also play as DM, and signing Jonny Evans as our new wing back would be pretty good. I'd be satisfied with that, provided we subbed Miki after 60 mins in every match.

[Niall_Quinn]

Here's a nice Welcome to Arsenal Suarez Mbappe Lemar Aubameyang video. Excellent music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h76v9yi07d4

[HCZ]

Only reason I can think of that we aren’t prepared to meet the valuation is that we don’t have the money to, seems incredibly unlikely though.

[Özim]

Except we do have the money, Ox, Coquelin, Walcott, all that money more than covers Aubameyang, whether we're willing to pay it however that's a different matter.

The subject of whether we have enough money was put to bed a long long time ago, we're one ofthe richest clubs in the world, have sold players, saved wages and our net spend has been very low, we're swimming in money, the club is valued at what 1.75 billion?

Just think we don't want to spend money and just want to pull the wool over the gullible fans eyes (not everyone believes in this nonsense).

[Globalgunner]

We are broke. We sent Pinky and Perky over to Germany to take out a loan from Deutsche Bank

[Letters]

Only reason I can think of that we aren’t prepared to meet the valuation is that we don’t have the money to, seems incredibly unlikely though.

Oh, hello :lol:

[HCZ]

You know I’m not as slow on the uptake as you were suggesting

This poxy website kept me off for the better part of a week, and your password change did sod all (yes I do realise it’s case sensitive and all that)

[Letters]

I logged in with the details I gave you and it worked fine :shrug:

Meh. Anyway, welcome back to the moanathon.

[GP]

That happens with a lot of my accounts sometimes.

[Letters]

I just leave myself logged in so I guess if there are problems with log in I wouldn't have seen them.
Could get Jof to have a look if we could reproduce the problem, but when I did change HCZ's details and tried to log in it worked fine for me.

[Globalgunner]

That happens with a lot of my accounts sometimes.

Is that you Cripps?

[GP]

Is that you Cripps?

Cripps was retired years ago.

[Niall_Quinn]

Only reason I can think of that we aren’t prepared to meet the valuation is that we don’t have the money to, seems incredibly unlikely though.

Welcome to GW :tiphat:

[HCZ]

I did usually keep myself logged in, but for reasons only best known to itself my phone logged me out

[Letters]

New posters :bow:

[Letters]

I did usually keep myself logged in, but for reasons only best known to itself my phone logged me out

Maybe you posted something anti-Wenger. We did recently put in an automated banning routine for anyone who criticises Wenger.

[HCZ]

New posters :bow:

Wenger mentality :haha:

Herbert_Chapman’s_Zombie will be like a new signing

[Gooner23]

It's like the Emirates official attendance numbers

[GP]

How many users have you banned for anti-Wenger fake news? 1000?

[HCZ]

My posts are being modded in other areas

Fucking Stasi!

[Letters]

It's like the Emirates official attendance numbers

:lol: It is exactly like that.

We currently have 973 Members according to our official statistics. We're more popular than ever :cool:
GW :bow:
Letters :bow:

[Globalgunner]

:lol: It is exactly like that.

We currently have 973 Members according to our official statistics. We're more popular than ever :cool:
GW :bow:
Letters :bow:

More like Trump inauguration numbers. Totally made up statistics...in short fake news

[Cripps]

Letters creating even more accounts to switch between :bow:

[Letters]

Might retire the Dumbledore one. He's not proving very popular.

[Cripps]

Getting EXCITING now!

WBA have signed a replacement for Evans, apparently.

So that deal could be on again, big time. Wow!

I just hope our transfer team doesn't have to rush to a motorway cafe on the M40 because that would place some lovely time pressure on the Aubameyang and Messi negotiations.

Even if that happened, even if we didn't manage to land Auba, getting a world class player like Mkhitaryan who could also play as DM, and signing Jonny Evans as our new wing back would be pretty good. I'd be satisfied with that, provided we subbed Miki after 60 mins in every match.

:lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Might retire the Dumbledore one. He's not proving very popular.

Focus Groups are never wrong


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[Cripps]

'Dzeko to Chelsea stalled. Chelsea looking at signing Giroud on loan. Giroud can only leave Arsenal if they sign Aubameyang. If Aubameyang leaves Dortmund they want Lucas Moura from PSG. Moura prefers move to Spurs'

So if we sign aubameyang we not only get a world class striker but stop sp*rs signing Moura? Get on with it!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm thoroughly bored with the media. Days and days of stories that Dortmund are fed up and annoyed with Arsenal and are ready to walk away, now suddenly they've decided Dortmund are desperate to sell.

:sleep:

[HCZ]

I think there’s probably a hint of truth in it

Dortmund and Arsenal have been playing chicken with each other

Dortmund want to sell but they want the right money for him

Arsenal want to buy but they don’t want to pay top money for a want away 28 year old

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Looks as though Citeh will be buying Laporte from Athletic Club. £57 million apparently.

I need more playa!

[Marc Overmars]

How many 50m+ defenders is that now?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Four.

And of course Mangala for £42 million under Pellegrini. :wacko:

[Cripps]

We're haggling over £3m for one of the world's best strikers and City are splashing another £60m on a young defender.

[GP]

That's right

[Özim]

Looks as though Citeh will be buying Laporte from Athletic Club. £57 million apparently.

I need more playa!

Good for them that they're not wasting their time on some 30 year old has been that never was.

[Özim]

We're haggling over £3m for one of the world's best strikers and City are splashing another £60m on a young defender.

Yeah utterly embarassing tbh. Sums us up though, cheap.

[HCZ]

We're haggling over £3m for one of the world's best strikers and City are splashing another £60m on a young defender.

Comparing Apples and Oranges

The simple fact is whilst that old crook Kroenke refuses to invest any of his own money in the club, whilst we can afford what Dortmund are asking, we probably have to be more self aware of value.

City with this Laporte fella they can throw sixty million odd around without blinking and if he turns out good they are getting years out of him.

Aubemeyang is proven talent, but at 28 a player reliant on pace comes with a best before date, and whilst there is a contradiction over being parsimonious when the club allowed Wenger to run down the contracts of Ozil and Sanchez but if you think you can get a club to knock money off their asking price for a player who they seem to want to sell why wouldn’t you. If it doesn’t work and we are left with just Mkhitaryan we look bloody stupid, but if it does work I don’t imagine anyone here will complain too much.

[HCZ]

And if you’re part of the club hiearchy and you’ve seen what Wenger has done for Lacazette would you really be keen to shell out 60million so easily?

The value of any commodity is tied up in what other people are willing to pay. Are there clubs coming in willing to meet Dortmund’s asking price?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Good for them that they're not wasting their time on some 30 year old has been that never was.

:lol: :d

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Comparing Apples and Oranges

The simple fact is whilst that old crook Kroenke refuses to invest any of his own money in the club, whilst we can afford what Dortmund are asking, we probably have to be more self aware of value.

City with this Laporte fella they can throw sixty million odd around without blinking and if he turns out good they are getting years out of him.

Aubemeyang is proven talent, but at 28 a player reliant on pace comes with a best before date, and whilst there is a contradiction over being parsimonious when the club allowed Wenger to run down the contracts of Ozil and Sanchez but if you think you can get a club to knock money off their asking price for a player who they seem to want to sell why wouldn’t you. If it doesn’t work and we are left with just Mkhitaryan we look bloody stupid, but if it does work I don’t imagine anyone here will complain too much.

You're new here right.... :d

[HCZ]

Good for them that they're not wasting their time on some 30 year old has been that never was.

See I’ve never seen any glimmer that we or city or in fact anyone else has been particularly interested in Evans

Most of these rumours I’m sure come about from agents looking for a big pay day.

[HCZ]

You're new here right.... :d

No. Just a new account because this site is old and shit and has gathered more dust than the queens pussy

[Cripps]

Comparing Apples and Oranges

The simple fact is whilst that old crook Kroenke refuses to invest any of his own money in the club, whilst we can afford what Dortmund are asking, we probably have to be more self aware of value.

City with this Laporte fella they can throw sixty million odd around without blinking and if he turns out good they are getting years out of him.

Aubemeyang is proven talent, but at 28 a player reliant on pace comes with a best before date, and whilst there is a contradiction over being parsimonious when the club allowed Wenger to run down the contracts of Ozil and Sanchez but if you think you can get a club to knock money off their asking price for a player who they seem to want to sell why wouldn’t you. If it doesn’t work and we are left with just Mkhitaryan we look bloody stupid, but if it does work I don’t imagine anyone here will complain too much.

Oh do me a favour.

He's one of the best strikers on the planet in his peak years.

Give them what they want and get it over the line.

[Cripps]

No. Just a new account because this site is old and shit and has gathered more dust than the queens pussy

Or you're just a basic tool that forgot your login details? I know what my moneys on.

[Özim]

See I’ve never seen any glimmer that we or city or in fact anyone else has been particularly interested in Evans

Most of these rumours I’m sure come about from agents looking for a big pay day.

Time will tell I guess, would be just like us to waste money on someone like this and not be willing to pay a few extra million for someone top class, we've doneit many times.

Who would have believed we would have signed rejects like Silvestre and Welbeck, two players ridiculed by Arsenal fans before they arrived and two players noone believed we were going to sign.

[Özim]

Abameyang starting for Dortmund today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42839626

[HCZ]

Or you're just a basic tool that forgot your login details? I know what my moneys on.

Not quite as basic as your vocabulary I fear

[Cripps]

Abameyang starting for Dortmund today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42839626

:haha:

[HCZ]

Oh do me a favour.

He's one of the best strikers on the planet in his peak years.

Give them what they want and get it over the line.

Again taking away the fan mentality why would you.

It doesn’t seem like Aubemeyang wants to be there, and there aren’t other clubs waiting to pounce. Fine if it gets to deadline day and Dortmund haven’t budged do the deal....but unless you have a rich Arab benefactor it seems odd to not want to get the best value for money possible.

He is at his peak. But again he’s 28 and heavily reliant on pace, how many years are we getting out of him. Especially with that stupid ego driven blunderer in charge.

[Özim]

Dortmund don't have to sell, they can easily wait until the summer, he's under contract and they can find a buyer in the summer, probably much easier. IMO they hold all the cards, the fact he's playing in the team shows that, if he was such a big problem he wouldn't be playing.

[Cripps]

#BVB fans have a banner on display: “No one is bigger than the club.”

:popcorn:

[Cripps]

Again taking away the fan mentality why would you.

It doesn’t seem like Aubemeyang wants to be there, and there aren’t other clubs waiting to pounce. Fine if it gets to deadline day and Dortmund haven’t budged do the deal....but unless you have a rich Arab benefactor it seems odd to not want to get the best value for money possible.

He is at his peak. But again he’s 28 and heavily reliant on pace, how many years are we getting out of him. Especially with that stupid ego driven blunderer in charge.

:doh:

[HCZ]

Possibly but my understanding is that City wanted him back in 2016 but didn’t want to pay the asking price. It seems to me they think their best chance they think they have of getting the price for him they want is playing on our need to have a replacement for Sanchez.
If they sell him in the summer they won’t get anymore than what we are offering now, especially as he’s six months older.
I think you’re right they are playing him today to say to us we don’t have to sell him to you.

But that’s not going to get them the money they want from him, because I think there is zero chance we are going to pay their asking price now and even less chance another club will in the summer.

[HCZ]

:doh:

What’s the problem buddy?.

Are you hitting yourself again because you can’t think?

:hug:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Comparing Apples and Oranges

The simple fact is whilst that old crook Kroenke refuses to invest any of his own money in the club, whilst we can afford what Dortmund are asking, we probably have to be more self aware of value.

City with this Laporte fella they can throw sixty million odd around without blinking and if he turns out good they are getting years out of him.

Aubemeyang is proven talent, but at 28 a player reliant on pace comes with a best before date, and whilst there is a contradiction over being parsimonious when the club allowed Wenger to run down the contracts of Ozil and Sanchez but if you think you can get a club to knock money off their asking price for a player who they seem to want to sell why wouldn’t you. If it doesn’t work and we are left with just Mkhitaryan we look bloody stupid, but if it does work I don’t imagine anyone here will complain too much.

This. :gp:


Comparing us to City/Utd is silly considering we actually have to watch what we spend to an extent whereas those two can chuck whatever money they can without any consequences or impact on their bottom line.

If Aubemeyang is the player we desperately need then losing out on him either to a rival or with him not moving over three million is stupid (I still have nightmares about the Higuain deal) but as long as the negotiation team have time, I can understand them trying to extract the best price for the club.


tl;dr - stop comparing the way we do business to the likes of City/Utd and Chelsea (though I think they're slowly morphing into us now). You're comparing clubs essentially playing football manager versus a club in the real world.

[selassie]

Possibly but my understanding is that City wanted him back in 2016 but didn’t want to pay the asking price. It seems to me they think their best chance they think they have of getting the price for him they want is playing on our need to have a replacement for Sanchez.
If they sell him in the summer they won’t get anymore than what we are offering now, especially as he’s six months older.
I think you’re right they are playing him today to say to us we don’t have to sell him to you.

But that’s not going to get them the money they want from him, because I think there is zero chance we are going to pay their asking price now and even less chance another club will in the summer.

Our main concern is getting the player to improve our team. We are in no position to play poker with them over valuations, we gain nothing from walking away from this deal, especially seeing as we are what 10million apart in valuations at the moment.

Our first team isn't by any means strong and our squad is on the whole pretty shoddy, we need players of the profile of Auba to improve us and to also give other potential targets more of an incentive to want join us.

We know Auba wants the move, we know what Dortmund value him at, we should pay the fucking money and get this deal done.

P.S. I highly doubt Dortmund will back down from their valuation, they managed to get 100million from Barca for Dembele in the summer and he went on strike to force the move!

[Cripps]

What’s the problem buddy?.

Are you hitting yourself again because you can’t think?

:hug:

No :lol: I can't be arsed to explain to a dumb tool like you why after years of transfer embarrassments we need to offer the extra £3m for Auba :lol:

[Cripps]

This. :gp:


Comparing us to City/Utd is silly considering we actually have to watch what we spend to an extent whereas those two can chuck whatever money they can without any consequences or impact on their bottom line.

If Aubemeyang is the player we desperately need then losing out on him either to a rival or with him not moving over three million is stupid (I still have nightmares about the Higuain deal) but as long as the negotiation team have time, I can understand them trying to extract the best price for the club.


tl;dr - stop comparing the way we do business to the likes of City/Utd and Chelsea (though I think they're slowly morphing into us now). You're comparing clubs essentially playing football manager versus a club in the real world.

We're talking about an extra £3m, thus your argument is invalid.

[Cripps]

Our main concern is getting the player to improve our team. We are in no position to play poker with them over valuations, we gain nothing from walking away from this deal, especially seeing as we are what 10million apart in valuations at the moment.

Our first team isn't by any means strong and our squad is on the whole pretty shoddy, we need players of the profile of Auba to improve us and to also give other potential targets more of an incentive to want join us.

We know Auba wants the move, we know what Dortmund value him at, we should pay the fucking money and get this deal done.

P.S. I highly doubt Dortmund will back down from their valuation, they managed to get 100million from Barca for Dembele in the summer and he went on strike to force the move!

:gp:

[Niall_Quinn]

Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere and Lacazette will be watching this alleged transfer very closely. The club can either make a statement of intent, having just lost lost its star player AGAIN, or it can save a couple of million quid and see how far that gets them replacing the players we'll be losing if we, yet again, do the ridiculous penny pinching routine that has cost this club its competitiveness season after season.

[HCZ]

It’s 13million euros not 3 million, they want €61 million and we have offered €48million

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We're talking about an extra £3m, thus your argument is invalid.

£3 million here and there all adds up and affects us.


What if we lose out on another more important player in the summer because we're short of £3 million for the deal and with Kroenke refusing to put his hand into his pocket, we've got no other source of finance? City & Utd don't have that worry.

[Cripps]

It’s 13million euros not 3 million, they want €61 million and we have offered €48million

My understanding is they want £53m and we're offering £50m.

[Cripps]

£3 million here and there all adds up and affects us.


What if we lose out on another more important player in the summer because we're short of £3 million for the deal and with Kroenke refusing to put his hand into his pocket, we've got no other source of finance? City & Utd don't have that worry.

:lol: Come off it. Piss poor argument :lol:

[Cripps]

Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere and Lacazette will be watching this alleged transfer very closely. The club can either make a statement of intent, having just lost lost its star player AGAIN, or it can save a couple of million quid and see how far that gets them replacing the players we'll be losing if we, yet again, do the ridiculous penny pinching routine that has cost this club its competitiveness season after season.

:lol: Once again NQ proving he's one of the top 3 posters on the forum. Does anyone disagree with that? Thought not

[HCZ]

Our main concern is getting the player to improve our team. We are in no position to play poker with them over valuations, we gain nothing from walking away from this deal, especially seeing as we are what 10million apart in valuations at the moment.

Our first team isn't by any means strong and our squad is on the whole pretty shoddy, we need players of the profile of Auba to improve us and to also give other potential targets more of an incentive to want join us.

We know Auba wants the move, we know what Dortmund value him at, we should pay the fucking money and get this deal done.

P.S. I highly doubt Dortmund will back down from their valuation, they managed to get 100million from Barca for Dembele in the summer and he went on strike to force the move!

Dembele is 20 and Barcelona had money burning a hole in their pocket after selling Neymar

Aubemeyang has been at Dortmund for almost five years, and so far no club has been willing to meet their valuation for him. And if Dortmund want to sell him which they will as they aren’t as stupid as us to let their players run down their contract they will have to accept a lower amount for him than they want.

[Niall_Quinn]

£3 million here and there all adds up and affects us.


What if we lose out on another more important player in the summer because we're short of £3 million for the deal and with Kroenke refusing to put his hand into his pocket, we've got no other source of finance? City & Utd don't have that worry.

We have a quarter of a billion quid in the bank at that number has been rising season on season. I doubt we'll be short 3 mill or 30 mill any time soon. There's more TV money sloshing around than ever, more sponsorship deals on the table, and we scalp the fans with the highest prices in the world. There's no reasonable defence that could be mounted for the behaviour of this club. Their eye is not on the football. It is elsewhere.

[HCZ]

My understanding is they want £53m and we're offering £50m.


It seems unlikely to me that either party would make a stand over this amount. Everything I’ve seen is that the second bid we made was 44million (equivalent to 48million euros) and Dortmund want 61million Euros (about 55 million quid)

Dortmund have made a statement today saying they still want to sell (which would seem unusual for a club that feels it doesn’t have to sell)

[selassie]

£3 million here and there all adds up and affects us.


What if we lose out on another more important player in the summer because we're short of £3 million for the deal and with Kroenke refusing to put his hand into his pocket, we've got no other source of finance? City & Utd don't have that worry.

TEG, the money is there, this Auba deal and many of our long drawn out transfer sagas seem to be related to our principles and valuations more than us not having the funds to complete the deals.

We have form for this kind of thing, it has happened many times before.

[Cripps]

It seems unlikely to me that either party would make a stand over this amount. Everything I’ve seen is that the second bid we made was 44million (equivalent to 48million euros) and Dortmund want 61million Euros (about 55 million quid)

Dortmund have made a statement today saying they still want to sell (which would seem unusual for a club that feels it doesn’t have to sell)

I can definetly believe that we're haggling over £3m. This is Arsenal. We bid £1 over £40m to activate a release clause.

[Cripps]

TEG, the money is there, this Auba deal and many of our long drawn out transfer sagas seem to be related to our principles and valuations more than us not having the funds to complete the deals.

We have form for this kind of thing, it has happened many times before.

He's acting as if we're a league 1 cash strapped club:lol:

TEG:rose:

[selassie]

Dembele is 20 and Barcelona had money burning a hole in their pocket after selling Neymar

Aubemeyang has been at Dortmund for almost five years, and so far no club has been willing to meet their valuation for him. And if Dortmund want to sell him which they will as they aren’t as stupid as us to let their players run down their contract they will have to accept a lower amount for him than they want.

I used the Dembele example more for the reason that Dortmund won't bend over for us, Zorc has a reputation for being a tough negotiator.

Well I don't think it's quite as simple as that, ultimately they will accept what they deem a suitable price for the player, of course they want to sell him but if he was that much of a problem they wouldn't play him, he's playing for them right now!!!

We can continue lowballing them but we stand to gain nothing from doing that.

[selassie]

He's acting as if we're a league 1 cash strapped club:lol:

TEG:rose:

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

It seems unlikely to me that either party would make a stand over this amount. Everything I’ve seen is that the second bid we made was 44million (equivalent to 48million euros) and Dortmund want 61million Euros (about 55 million quid)

Dortmund have made a statement today saying they still want to sell (which would seem unusual for a club that feels it doesn’t have to sell)

They want time and money to get a replacement in. Our fucking around is costing them the time they need to make sure they are sorted when the window closes. We get a player, they lose their top scorer. They asked for Bif and we wouldn't do it. I think they even asked for him on loan, which would have been ideal (not Wenger ideal, but English dictionary ideal). Bif's looking to get some game time so he can make the World Cup, Dortmund get their cover until the summer, we get a big name signing that plugs a few holes in the ship. The truth is Arsenal (Wenger) is one giant fuck up in the transfer window. So many examples of it. This joke of a man costs us time and time again, on the pitch, off the pitch. And the bloodsuckers in the boardroom, same deal. The Kroenke/ Wenger combo - cancer.

[HCZ]

I can definetly believe that we're haggling over £3m. This is Arsenal. We bid £1 over £40m to activate a release clause.

If the release clause says any amount over will trigger the release clause why would you pay loads more?

If you wanted to get a new car that was 19,900 would you pay 20k just so you don’t look like a cheap skate?

The joke with that is that these release causes only mean a shit if the player makes a big deal over it. You think if Suárez had wanted to come here he’d have sued Liverpool over breach of contract.

[Cripps]

If the release clause says any amount over will trigger the release clause why would you pay more?

If you wanted to get a new car that was 19,900 would you pay 20k just so you don’t look like a cheap skate?

The joke with that is that these release causes only mean a shit if the player makes a big deal over it. You think if Suárez had wanted to come here he’d have sued Liverpool over breach of contract.

Oh come off it :lol: it was an absolute embarrassment :lol:

The reputational damage it caused and the laughing stock we became because of it :lol: we pissed off Liverpool to the point when they put a release clause in Firminos contract they said it applies to anyone but Arsenal :lol:

[HCZ]

Oh come off it :lol: it was an absolute embarrassment :lol:

The reputational damage it caused and the laughing stock we became because of it :lol: we pissed off Liverpool to the point when they put a release clause in Firminos contract they said it applies to anyone but Arsenal :lol:

They sold him to Barcelona for 75 million a year later, it’s fair to say we weren’t going to pay that for him

Liverpool didn’t want to sell him so they decided to go public and make themselves look good and us silly

As I say the stupidity wasn’t the 40million and 1 quid it was assuming that Liverpool would honour their own release fee clause

[Cripps]

They sold him to Barcelona for 75 million a year later, it’s fair to say we weren’t going to pay that for him

Liverpool didn’t want to sell him so they decided to go public and make themselves look good and us silly

As I say the stupidity wasn’t the 40million and 1 quid it was assuming that Liverpool would honour their own release fee clause

You really do live in your own world :console:

[HCZ]

Well having read the Dortmund statement there are three outcomes

- We cave
- They cave
- Neither cave and we end up without a replacement for Sanchez and they are stuck with a player who doesn’t want to be there

I am largely indifferent. I actually think it makes no difference to this season if we sign him or not. We won’t finish in the top four and Aubemeyang is ineligible for the Europa league.

As for whether it encourages other players to sign on, meh. I think Ozil or Wilshere will probably go regardless and as for Giroud and Ramsey? Who gives a shit.

[HCZ]

You really do live in your own world :console:

Which would still be infinitely better than living in a world of your making

[Cripps]

Which would still be infinitely better than living in a world of your making

And to think you work in the police force:lol:

No wonder public services in this country are fucked :lol:

[HCZ]

And to think you work in the police force:lol:

No wonder public services in this country are fucked :lol:

It’s more to do with idiots like you not earning enough to pay the requisite taxes to fund them :haha:

Although using the T word around here is like saying Beetlejuice three times. NQ will turn up with a ridiculously long homily about how we are all slaves to an establishment

Beginning to wonder if he is actually Steve Bannon (Bannon has that dishevelled crustiness that can only come from a lifetime of drinking) and he spent the vast majority of his 18 hour days in the west wing posting on here.

[Cripps]

It’s more to do with idiots like you not earning enough to pay the requisite taxes to fund them :haha:

Although using the T word around here is like saying Beetlejuice three times. NQ will turn up with a ridiculously long homily about how we are all slaves to an establishment

I'm paying you and giving you a living you silly mug:lol:

That effectively means you're my bitch :lol:

My bitch on GW and in real life. Me :bow:

[HCZ]

I'm paying you and giving you a living you silly mug:lol:

That effectively means you're my bitch :lol:

My bitch on GW and in real life. Me :bow:

Stop pretending that you have a job and pay tax

My taxes pay for your JSA

With that in mind I want to know why you’re on here so much and not up on a ladder cleaning windows. The vertigo argument won’t wash with me.

Seriously though I do continue to find your obsession with owning people troubling. Would a routine police warrant find a load of underage Filipino boys hiding in a crawl space under your stairs?

[fakeyank]

And to think you work in the police force:lol:

No wonder public services in this country are fucked :lol:

:haha: :haha:

[HCZ]

:haha: :haha:

There’s no need to be mean just because I used to constantly claim you were a repressed homo living in a part of the world where that kind of thing could land you in prison.

I didn’t say it to be nasty I just said it cos i thought it was funny :haha:

[HCZ]

So Dortmund have played hard ball by starting Aubemeyang in a game where they had to score in injury time to scrape a draw with mid table Freiburg

“Fuck you Arsenal, we don’t need to sell we are just as shit with him in the team as we are without him”

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If we want to save a few bob playing poker with them fined.....but if the window shuts and we don't end up getting him, there really won't be enough pitchforks to go around.

[HCZ]

If we want to save a few bob playing poker with them fined.....but if the window shuts and we don't end up getting him, there really won't be enough pitchforks to go around.

Sounds a win-win to me

[Cripps]

Evans looked like he pulled his hammy tonight.

Thank fuck.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don't think that means anything really, unless it's a huge tear of course.

[Niall_Quinn]

Evans looked like he pulled his hammy tonight.

Thank fuck.

Provided he hasn't broken his back.

In fact, even if he has broken his back, fine. The only hard requirement is he has to be second rate and he's definitely that.

[Power n Glory]

Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere and Lacazette will be watching this alleged transfer very closely. The club can either make a statement of intent, having just lost lost its star player AGAIN, or it can save a couple of million quid and see how far that gets them replacing the players we'll be losing if we, yet again, do the ridiculous penny pinching routine that has cost this club its competitiveness season after season.

That's the bigger picture. This public pursuit won't look good if we come back empty handed. It's not as if Dortmund have slapped an unreasonable price tag on him that's unheard of. We're talking £55m for one of the worlds best strikers. If we fail to land him, you're right to point out the ramifications. I'm all for keeping funds back for another manager but that's clearly not the strategy we're going for here. We're actually trying to sign Aubameyang and despite a new director of football, head of recruitment and contract negotiation guy, it's still looking like the same old Arsenal. What's changed?

If we don't get our guy it's just another example of us falling short. God knows why Herb and TEG are trying to justify the peanuts we're squabbling over. If the fee we're talking about was close to £100m, OK. It makes sense to hold your horses. But we're not far from matching their negotiations but the longer we drag this out, the more likely we are to not get a deal because it's the January window.

[Marc Overmars]

I don’t know why we do it. He is Dortmund’s prized asset and we need to replace Sanchez quickly, so I don’t think our position is very strong on this. Obviously none of us have any idea how these deals are conducted but we make over 3m every match day at the Emirates, there really should be no reason why we can’t meet their valuation if we’re already prepared to offer in that region anyway.

Get it done you fuckers.

[Cripps]

We need to penny pinch in case we lose out on another more important player in the summer because we're short of £3 million for the deal

TEG:haha:

[Marc Overmars]

We’ve also made the best part of 100m in sales over the last 6 months, taking a load off the wage bill as well.

I fully appreciate the fact we can’t just drop x amount of money on any player we fancy like United and City, however it’s just bizarre how this club operates sometimes, we really do ourselves no favours in reasonable situations like this.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's the bigger picture. This public pursuit won't look good if we come back empty handed. It's not as if Dortmund have slapped an unreasonable price tag on him that's unheard of. We're talking £55m for one of the worlds best strikers. If we fail to land him, you're right to point out the ramifications. I'm all for keeping funds back for another manager but that's clearly not the strategy we're going for here. We're actually trying to sign Aubameyang and despite a new director of football, head of recruitment and contract negotiation guy, it's still looking like the same old Arsenal. What's changed?

If we don't get our guy it's just another example of us falling short. God knows why Herb and TEG are trying to justify the peanuts we're squabbling over. If the fee we're talking about was close to £100m, OK. It makes sense to hold your horses. But we're not far from matching their negotiations but the longer we drag this out, the more likely we are to not get a deal because it's the January window.

Signing Auba is STEP 1 on the to do list. The EASIEST of the challenges ahead. If we can't even do this then forget cup wins and top 4 finishes. Forget it all. The club, the players, the fans will all be at rockbottom as we head into the notorious business end of the season. Wenger has made so many mistakes, but this will be right up there with the worst of them. Who will ever believe a thing this guy says again if this Aubameyang pursuit turns out to be yet another case of misdirection to stretch things out to the close of the window? The fans are going to hate his fucking guts if sabotages this deal.

At least you would hope so. But this is Arsenal so you never know.

[HCZ]

I feel totally indifferent to the whole thing

I don’t believe we will finish in the top four regardless of whether we sign him or not

Whilst I can appreciate us not wanting to spend 60million on a 28 year old who we at best will get 2-3 good seasons out of, I can appreciate those saying money should not be an issue for us especially when we have made a profit in this transfer window as well as significantly clearing the wage bill.

If I believed it was the difference between us keeping Wilshere and Ozil and not keeping them I would be agitating for the move but I don’t believe either are going to stay anyway.

So for me, whatever happens happens

[Globalgunner]

Youre totally right in that no number of new players will make tiniest difference to our prospects with Wumger still in charge, we will continue to win occasional games against Chelsea and regularly stumble against the likes of Burnley and Bournemouth.. The fans just want to see new players. Its the hope that keeps you going even when deep down you know there is really no hope. Deluded optimism syndrome.

Well you never know. Spuds and Pool have a lot of Fk ups within them. We could just as easily end up 4th as 7th. Leicester are really starting to worry me. Damn you Claude Puel!!!!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I feel totally indifferent to the whole thing

I don’t believe we will finish in the top four regardless of whether we sign him or not

Whilst I can appreciate us not wanting to spend 60million on a 28 year old who we at best will get 2-3 good seasons out of, I can appreciate those saying money should not be an issue for us especially when we have made a profit in this transfer window as well as significantly clearing the wage bill.

If I believed it was the difference between us keeping Wilshere and Ozil and not keeping them I would be agitating for the move but I don’t believe either are going to stay anyway.

So for me, whatever happens happens

Have you written the next season off too? You do know we will still continue to exist after this miserable season right? Moreover, in the summer we need to be looking to improve the playing staff anyway. I realise the manager staying will probably hold us back, but a better group of players tends to me mean better results....as rudimentary as that may sound.

I didn't think you were that bothered about Wilshere signing but I find it hard to believe signing a world class striker and one of the best in the world right now has absolutely no impact on whether Wilshere and Ozil might be more inclined to sign.

Even if the pair of them publically declare they aren't signing today, I'd still want Aubameyang. World class forwards don't grow on trees. He is comfortably in the top 10 forwards in the world right now for me. There's not a single other on that top 10 list we have any hope of signing for 60 million.

[HCZ]

Have I written off next season?

Wenger will be manager so yes

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So you want us to sell players and not replace them? His contract is 2 years not 20.... He will go at some point!!

[HCZ]

I said I was indifferent

If we sign Aubemeyang great it’s a nice thing for the fans

But no I don’t think it makes a great difference.

Our football will still be shit

[Xhaka Can’t]

He will go at some point!!

This craziness belongs in the Mindless Optimism thread wherever that is.

[HCZ]

You’d like to think he will go at the end of his next contract, if he can’t get back top four either season and he’s just letting our best players run down their contracts....whilst they will never sack him. Not offering him a new contract isn’t the same thing.

[Cripps]

He's staying.

For as long as he's winning trophies and getting us into cup finals he's going nowhere.

You enter 4 competitions every season and if he's winning 1 or getting us into finals then Stan won't see a reason to let him go. He flies in once a year and if he sees Arsenal fans with scarfs and ribbons aloft urging the team on and going mental at a cup final that'll hardly convince him to give the old goat the boot.

[Power n Glory]

Have you written the next season off too? You do know we will still continue to exist after this miserable season right? Moreover, in the summer we need to be looking to improve the playing staff anyway. I realise the manager staying will probably hold us back, but a better group of players tends to me mean better results....as rudimentary as that may sound.

I didn't think you were that bothered about Wilshere signing but I find it hard to believe signing a world class striker and one of the best in the world right now has absolutely no impact on whether Wilshere and Ozil might be more inclined to sign.

Even if the pair of them publically declare they aren't signing today, I'd still want Aubameyang. World class forwards don't grow on trees. He is comfortably in the top 10 forwards in the world right now for me. There's not a single other on that top 10 list we have any hope of signing for 60 million.

We still continue to exist after this season and beyond Wenger's tenure. But you have to question the sort of state Wenger will leave us in once gone. I get the argument about keeping the powder dry and not allowing Wenger to waste anymore money so that we have the resources for the new manager to rebuild the squad once Wenger leaves. But the way we've courted Aubameyang in public suggests that this isn't the strategy. If we come back empty handed, it's another knock to our reputation. That's not something that can repaired so easily. If we fail to qualify for the Top 4 again, lose more players in the summer and fail to sign any marquee players, it will make it even harder to attract top players to the club once Wenger is gone and just pushes up the amount of money we'd have to pay to get them here. We can't afford to let this get out of hand. It may take years to recover if we keep messing around like this.

[HCZ]

We still continue to exist after this season and beyond Wenger's tenure. But you have to question the sort of state Wenger will leave us in once gone. I get the argument about keeping the powder dry and not allowing Wenger to waste anymore money so that we have the resources for the new manager to rebuild the squad once Wenger leaves. But the way we've courted Aubameyang in public suggests that this isn't the strategy. If we come back empty handed, it's another knock to our reputation. That's not something that can repaired so easily. If we fail to qualify for the Top 4 again, lose more players in the summer and fail to sign any marquee players, it will make it even harder to attract top players to the club once Wenger is gone and just pushes up the amount of money we'd have to pay to get them here. We can't afford to let this get out of hand. It may take years to recover if we keep messing around like this.

No true, we wouldn’t have sent a contingent out to Germany if we had no intention of spending any money until Wenger goes.
The strategy if it can be called as such, is not wanting to spend 60million on a 28 year old. And until Wednesday we won’t know if we’ve been made to look bloody stupid or not.

My attitude as I say is indifference, I like Aubemeyang....there’s no doubt I’d love him to play for us and as it’s not my money I’m not going to care if we end up paying 60 million for him.
But equally I’m not going to get upset if we don’t.

[HCZ]

He's staying.

For as long as he's winning trophies and getting us into cup finals he's going nowhere.

You enter 4 competitions every season and if he's winning 1 or getting us into finals then Stan won't see a reason to let him go. He flies in once a year and if he sees Arsenal fans with scarfs and ribbons aloft urging the team on and going mental at a cup final that'll hardly convince him to give the old goat the boot.

Kroenke cares about money. Even if CL money is peanuts compared to tv money. He looks upon Arsenal as an asset, and the value of that asset diminishes if we consistently are locked out of the top four.

I know Kroenke doesn’t give a fuck about the sport, but he’s not stupid. He knows that winning small trophies (and who says we are going to win anymore of those in the future) mean nothing.

[Cripps]

Kroenke cares about money. Even if CL money is peanuts compared to tv money. He looks upon Arsenal as an asset, and the value of that asset diminishes if we consistently are locked out of the top four.



Yeah I do agree with that. I have always said if he goes it'll be a commercial decision. I wonder how 2 years out of the CL will look in the accounts? Although the TV deals go some way in diminishing the issue of no CL revenue.

I got my hopes up so much last season. We finally had protests, banners and even planes, the pressure was on him from all quarters including the media... and he got a contract extension.

So I'm not getting my hopes up.

He's staying :tiphat:

[Niall_Quinn]

No true, we wouldn’t have sent a contingent out to Germany if we had no intention of spending any money until Wenger goes.
The strategy if it can be called as such, is not wanting to spend 60million on a 28 year old. And until Wednesday we won’t know if we’ve been made to look bloody stupid or not.

My attitude as I say is indifference, I like Aubemeyang....there’s no doubt I’d love him to play for us and as it’s not my money I’m not going to care if we end up paying 60 million for him.
But equally I’m not going to get upset if we don’t.

We're out of the CL (the competition for Europe's genuinely top clubs). So that's a blow to the prestige of the club.
We've just lost our top player to a rival - AGAIN. Another smack to prestige.
And now, we either have enough clout left to sign a replacement and try to get back into the CL, or we don't.

It's not really about the player. It's about our ability to respond and attract players of that calibre. Football will take notice if we can't. If the trend continues to be towards second tier status, eventually that trend is going to be difficult to reverse no matter who is managing the club.

The question is, who now has the final say, yes or no, on expenditure on transfers? We don't know the answer but if it's still Wenger there was no point in our staff ever boarding that plane for Germany. It's all just a show if Wenger retains the final say on transfer targets and what we are willing to pay for them.

We've done this several times before. Got the fans reengaged with the lure of a big transfer only to stretch the whole thing out and blow the window by coming up empty handed. If thats what this is, again, well you have to say fair play. The fans must be stupid enough to buy it over and over again. I initially laughed when I heard we were supposedly after Aubameyang. "Not that old trick, again!", was my thought. But I eventually got sucked in as the player agreed terms and it started to seem possible, with the only barrier being the price. But I thought, fuck it, they are already quids in form selling players, they have a ton of cash in the bank, they need to turn the fans around and surely they can't pass up a top player like this when he's on the market and financially within reach. My nagging doubt was why nobody else was in for the player. How come, the Chavs who are looking for a striker, didn't dive in? How come the gypos weren't interested after missing out on Alexis? What about the major European clubs, were none of them interested? So I was still suspicious. But the deal seemed possible nonetheless.

Now I realise I have been conned again, by what is undoubtedly the best team of con artists in the business. Led by the con master general himself, Arsene Wenger.

They don't give a fuck about this club beyond what they can personally get out of it. And they couldn't give a flying fuck if the prestige of this club falls into the shitter, because they don't care what anybody outside their little empire thinks, least of all the fans.

It's horrendous to try to imagine how much more damage this guy Wenger can do if he refuses to step aside at the end of this failed season. And, like others, I can picture that day next season when we hear the first mutterings that Wenger may stay on and sign another contract. That I can believe with no trouble at all.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I said I was indifferent

If we sign Aubemeyang great it’s a nice thing for the fans

But no I don’t think it makes a great difference.

Our football will still be shit

Clearly like most of us you are increasingly apathetic and I get that, but you're also just being obtuse.

I will settle for baby steps and go from seeing 5 good games a season to 10 good games a season and actually watch a world class forward turn out for us week in week out.

[Power n Glory]

No true, we wouldn’t have sent a contingent out to Germany if we had no intention of spending any money until Wenger goes.
The strategy if it can be called as such, is not wanting to spend 60million on a 28 year old. And until Wednesday we won’t know if we’ve been made to look bloody stupid or not.

My attitude as I say is indifference, I like Aubemeyang....there’s no doubt I’d love him to play for us and as it’s not my money I’m not going to care if we end up paying 60 million for him.
But equally I’m not going to get upset if we don’t.

I'm not that invested in the move either. Seen enough fuck ups around here to know not to get my hopes up. But seeing how this move has progressed, I can't help but question the overall strategy. If they don't want to spend that much on a 28 year old world class striker, I don't know why they're still sitting at the table trying to negotiate. They should have fucked off ages ago and moved on to another target. We don't need a striker. We just bought Lacazette. To me, being linked with a World Class striker like Aubameyang is a statement of intent since we've just lost Sanchez. His age shouldn't be relevant and they should have known they he'd be an expensive purchase. It looks like the sort of signing to address a problem we have now and not one for the future. If they wanted a younger player and something for the future, why walk away from the Malcom deal? How comes Spurs are being linked with Lucas Moura instead of us? What about Draxler or some other young winger because that's what we actually need. A winger.

None of it makes sense. We'll see what happens on deadline day but this looks like the same old shit. No plan or strategy. It was to see us even linked with Aubameyang in the first place but I assumed we just wanted a big name statement signing.

[Cripps]

We're out of the CL (the competition for Europe's genuinely top clubs). So that's a blow to the prestige of the club.
We've just lost our top player to a rival - AGAIN. Another smack to prestige.
And now, we either have enough clout left to sign a replacement and try to get back into the CL, or we don't.

It's not really about the player. It's about our ability to respond and attract players of that calibre. Football will take notice if we can't. If the trend continues to be towards second tier status, eventually that trend is going to be difficult to reverse no matter who is managing the club.

The question is, who now has the final say, yes or no, on expenditure on transfers? We don't know the answer but if it's still Wenger there was no point in our staff ever boarding that plane for Germany. It's all just a show if Wenger retains the final say on transfer targets and what we are willing to pay for them.

We've done this several times before. Got the fans reengaged with the lure of a big transfer only to stretch the whole thing out and blow the window by coming up empty handed. If thats what this is, again, well you have to say fair play. The fans must be stupid enough to buy it over and over again. I initially laughed when I heard we were supposedly after Aubameyang. "Not that old trick, again!", was my thought. But I eventually got sucked in as the player agreed terms and it started to seem possible, with the only barrier being the price. But I thought, fuck it, they are already quids in form selling players, they have a ton of cash in the bank, they need to turn the fans around and surely they can't pass up a top player like this when he's on the market and financially within reach. My nagging doubt was why nobody else was in for the player. How come, the Chavs who are looking for a striker, didn't dive in? How come the gypos weren't interested after missing out on Alexis? What about the major European clubs, were none of them interested? So I was still suspicious. But the deal seemed possible nonetheless.

Now I realise I have been conned again, by what is undoubtedly the best team of con artists in the business. Led by the con master general himself, Arsene Wenger.

They don't give a fuck about this club beyond what they can personally get out of it. And they couldn't give a flying fuck if the prestige of this club falls into the shitter, because they don't care what anybody outside their little empire thinks, least of all the fans.

It's horrendous to try to imagine how much more damage this guy Wenger can do if he refuses to step aside at the end of this failed season. And, like others, I can picture that day next season when we hear the first mutterings that Wenger may stay on and sign another contract. That I can believe with no trouble at all.

I think at this stage Ivan is still going to Wenger and discussing prices etc because Sanllehi hasn't started yet.

Ivan will be liaising with Sanllehi moving forward. I would have absolutely loved him to have been in place for this transfer window and seen how the Aubergine deal would have transpired.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think at this stage Ivan is still going to Wenger and discussing prices etc because Sanllehi hasn't started yet.

Ivan will be liaising with Sanllehi moving forward. I would have absolutely loved him to have been in place for this transfer window and seen how the Aubergine deal would have transpired.

But why they hell aren't they in place? And what are they doing in Germany if they haven't started work yet? This has been bizarre since the announcement, almost as if they have been deliberately hired outside the transfer window so they don't step on a certain goat's territory this one last time.

I never did understand it. Hired months ago but starting after the action. We can't even get basic hires right at this place.

Has Wenger been sacked yet? When the fuck is he going to be sacked?

[Globalgunner]

I think at this stage Ivan is still going to Wenger and discussing prices etc because Sanllehi hasn't started yet.

Ivan will be liaising with Sanllehi moving forward. I would have absolutely loved him to have been in place for this transfer window and seen how the Aubergine deal would have transpired.

If what you presume is true. This is an example of the absolute clusterfuck that is present day Arsenal. In any other club Gazidis would be liaising with Kroenke or at worst, Sir Chips. It would have nothing to do with the manager. I hope it isnt true and Gazidis has enough self respect to ignore Wengers calls.

[Cripps]

But why they hell aren't they in place? And what are they doing in Germany if they haven't started work yet? This has been bizarre since the announcement, almost as if they have been deliberately hired outside the transfer window so they don't step on a certain goat's territory this one last time.

I never did understand it. Hired months ago but starting after the action. We can't even get basic hires right at this place.

Has Wenger been sacked yet? When the fuck is he going to be sacked?

I reckon Sanllehi got delayed on purpose because the club knew they were going to cash in on Sanchez and it would be a difficult window so didn't want him taking a pasting by everyone and damaging his reputation so early on, fracturing his relationship with the fans. So they played it smart and made him start Feb 1st.

[Power n Glory]

I reckon Sanllehi got delayed on purpose because the club knew they were going to cash in on Sanchez and it would be a difficult window so didn't want him taking a pasting by everyone and damaging his reputation so early on, fracturing his relationship with the fans. So they played it smart and made him start Feb 1st.

That makes a lot of sense.

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently Auba got the shit booed out of him last night.

Surely Dortmund will have to cave in?

[Power n Glory]

Apparently Auba got the shit booed out of him last night.

Surely Dortmund will have to cave in?

How long is his contract? If they feel we"re the ones that has unsettled and trying to lowball, it might just strengthen their resolve. We have that sort of effect on clubs.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

When the next top player we go for is questioning why on earth he should sign for Arsenal and asking where the signs are of our ambition....we can at least say we signed a 28 year old world class player because we are concerned with challenging for major trophies, NOW. Or at least pretend and maintain a semblance of ambition.

If we don't tie this signing up we may literally have nothing to point to and also be explaining to potential new signings why on earth Wilshere an Arsenal boy has left as well as Ozil our current best player.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kicker (print edition) are saying the fee is agreed. 63 million Euros.

I'd post a link but it's everywhere.

Bif is not involved in said agreement.

[Cripps]

Ornstein:

BREAKING: Arsenal close to reaching agreement to sign to striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang from Borussia Dortmund for club-record fee in region of £60m. Transfer won’t be sanctioned until #BVB have replacement lined up - remains unclear if that will be Olivier Giroud or not #AFC


BREAKING: Sky sources: @Arsenal close to agreeing fee of around £60m with @BVB for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang. #SSN https://t.co/Bxxy0Imurx

[Marc Overmars]

Good news. Lets just hope Dortmund find a replacement.

[GP]

Give them Welbz

[Master Splinter]

Wenger :bow:.

He's done it again.

Replacing a fat, washed-up tranny who passes more to the opposition than his teammates with Europe's hottest striker.

[Niall_Quinn]

Give them Welbz

You really don't want this to go through, do you?

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger :bow:.

He's done it again.

Replacing a fat, washed-up tranny who passes more to the opposition than his teammates with Europe's hottest striker.

Giroud is Europe's hottest striker, tbf.

[Master Splinter]

Giroud is Europe's hottest striker, tbf.

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8362595.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Rylan-Clark-Neal.jpg


Nope.

[GP]

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8362595.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Rylan-Clark-Neal.jpg


Nope.

If Giroud had spend the last 2 years on an all-cock diet.

[Ralpheroo72]

Give them Welbz

Don’t forget as well we have Sanogo who can play there

[GP]

Don’t forget as well we have Sanogo who can play there

what? No we don't.

[Cripps]

Sanogo :haha: :haha:

What a useless buffoon he was.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Give them Welbz

You’d be better at scuppering deals than Wenger

[KSE Comedy Club]

I suppose in some respects, you do have to hand it to Sven & Ivan as they have completely taken any shine off of Sanchez’ move to Utd.

The meedjya has been filled everyday with the ‘will they, wont they’ saga of Aubameyang.

:bow:

[Ralpheroo72]

what? No we don't.

Haha! I know, the memories are still raw!

[HCZ]

Haha! I know, the memories are still raw!

I felt privileged to be at the game where he scored his one and only senior goal for us

Against Dortmund no less

[AFC Leveller]

Wherw will Auba play though> through the middle? alongside Laca? on the left? no point having a proven goalscorer playing wide.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wherw will Auba play though> through the middle? alongside Laca? on the left? no point having a proven goalscorer playing wide.

We have Wenger to figure that out. I'm sure he'll come up with a most entertaining solution.

[GP]

Wherw will Auba play though> through the middle? alongside Laca? on the left? no point having a proven goalscorer playing wide.

DM

[Gooner23]

I wonder if Laca could play right in a front 3. Similar style to Theo looking to make runs in behind, but he's much better technically albeit not as quick. He works hard and his link up is decent from what I've seen.

[Cripps]

I suppose in some respects, you do have to hand it to Sven & Ivan as they have completely taken any shine off of Sanchez’ move to Utd.

The meedjya has been filled everyday with the ‘will they, wont they’ saga of Aubameyang.

:bow:

The question is how much influence has Sven had? IMO a lot.

We're buying aubergine in the first place. Wenger was reluctant apparently but Sven managed to talk him round. I don't think we'd be signing him under the previous circumstances and not at £60m. We'd probably not have offered more than £55m because of Wengers stubborn valuation beliefs and that would have scuppered the deal, but Sven has managed to persuade them to splash £60m on a player with no resale value. That's impressive.

The fact Sven has managed to come in and make a mark straight away excites me. What excites me even more is Dein MK2 is starting in a few days so that will shake the set up even more.

Sven and Sanllehi, the saviours.

S&S :bow:

[Cripps]

I wonder if Laca could play right in a front 3. Similar style to Theo looking to make runs in behind, but he's much better technically albeit not as quick. He works hard and his link up is decent from what I've seen.

I'd start Lacuntzette in the middle.

He's a fox in the box type finisher and doesn't have intense work rate. Give him it in the box and he'll score. You don't want him running up and down the wing doing all the hard work.

[KSE Comedy Club]

The question is how much influence has Sven had? IMO a lot.

We're buying aubergine in the first place. Wenger was reluctant apparently but Sven managed to talk him round. I don't think we'd be signing him under the previous circumstances and not at £60m. We'd probably not have offered more than £55m because of Wengers stubborn valuation beliefs and that would have scuppered the deal, but Sven has managed to persuade them to splash £60m on a player with no resale value. That's impressive.

The fact Sven has managed to come in and make a mark straight away excites me. What excites me even more is Dein MK2 is starting in a few days so that will shake the set up even more.

Sven and Sanllehi, the saviours.

S&S :bow:
I agree, it definitely seems as though the bumbling old twat has been slipped some Valium in his tea to make him more agreeable ':wacko:'

agent S&S or S.A.S. :bow:

[Cripps]

Michy Batshuayi set for Borussia Dortmund loan to pave way for Aubameyang switch to Arsenal https://t.co/DjLgLt92T3 https://t.co/EqWJGvIqzW

Chelsea paving the way for Aubameyang to come here. Wenger gets one over conte again :haha:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Michy Batshuayi set for Borussia Dortmund loan to pave way for Aubameyang switch to Arsenal https://t.co/DjLgLt92T3 https://t.co/EqWJGvIqzW

Chelsea paving the way for Aubameyang to come here. Wenger gets one over conte again :haha:

That must mean Giroud is heading to the chavs

[GP]

That must mean Giroud is heading to the chavs

I hope not.

[Gooner23]

That just wouldnt make sense at all. Surely we can get the Auba deal done without letting Chelski have Giroud.

[Niall_Quinn]

The question is how much influence has Sven had? IMO a lot.

We're buying aubergine in the first place. Wenger was reluctant apparently but Sven managed to talk him round. I don't think we'd be signing him under the previous circumstances and not at £60m. We'd probably not have offered more than £55m because of Wengers stubborn valuation beliefs and that would have scuppered the deal, but Sven has managed to persuade them to splash £60m on a player with no resale value. That's impressive.

The fact Sven has managed to come in and make a mark straight away excites me. What excites me even more is Dein MK2 is starting in a few days so that will shake the set up even more.

Sven and Sanllehi, the saviours.

S&S :bow:

Ivan sending the best he's got to release the club from Wenger's grip.

https://cdn-02.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/article34614356.ece/fadf4/AUTOCROP/w620h342/PANews%20BT_P-6e4be1a0-febb-44b5-8960-19dd048a6fd0_I1.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

I hope not.

Same here. Bif will get goals for them. Possibly lots. They'll cheat and do shit like play to his strengths. We mustn't sell him to those bastards. It would spoil the whole Morata thing they have going, which is one of the finest comedies in years.

[Marc Overmars]

Wherw will Auba play though> through the middle? alongside Laca? on the left? no point having a proven goalscorer playing wide.

Lacashite has to play through the middle or not at all. He's already finding it hard enough to get space and chances, so we'd completely kill him moving him out wide.

[Niall_Quinn]

That just wouldnt make sense at all. Surely we can get the Auba deal done without letting Chelski have Giroud.

Could be Wenger trying to restore as much of the transfer profits as possible while his rivals are away in Germany. If he's flogged half the team and is rolling around starkers with a stiffie in a huge pile of cash when they get back, that's a win for the old gitguard.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger, as 55.4mill vanishes from the profit pile. Painful.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/29/10/48B2F38A00000578-5324591-image-a-36_1517222388391.jpg

[Marc Overmars]

The question is how much influence has Sven had? IMO a lot.

We're buying aubergine in the first place. Wenger was reluctant apparently but Sven managed to talk him round. I don't think we'd be signing him under the previous circumstances and not at £60m. We'd probably not have offered more than £55m because of Wengers stubborn valuation beliefs and that would have scuppered the deal, but Sven has managed to persuade them to splash £60m on a player with no resale value. That's impressive.

The fact Sven has managed to come in and make a mark straight away excites me. What excites me even more is Dein MK2 is starting in a few days so that will shake the set up even more.

Sven and Sanllehi, the saviours.

S&S :bow:

Finally Wenker has nothing to do with transfers and we've done some impressive business off the back of a big departure.

If only we had Sven when Cesc and RVP left, that set us back a few years and Alexis threatened to do the same.

Sven. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Tbf, we don't have a clue who's doing what behind the scenes. You have to hope Wenger played a major role in this or he'll end up taking it out on the player in terms of selection, position and game time. I still wonder if he actually wanted Lacazette.

Now, surely, he HAS to change the system. And to do that he has to sign up Ozil and Jack. And get a DM and a leader for the defence. 2 days left to splash the remainder of the transfer profits, especially if Bif is going to add another 35 mill to the pot. Don't stop now. Get the DM and get the defender and we could actually be in business.

This is like starting up an old limo. Cough, splutter, will it die and end up a dud or is the engine finally going to kick into life again? Reprieve after years of torment, or one last, unbearable false dawn.

Does Wenger have anything left? If he can't do the business with Ozil, Jack, Aubameyang, Lacazette and Mkhitaryan then he's got no business being within a hundred miles of the place.

[Cripps]

Same here. Bif will get goals for them. Possibly lots. They'll cheat and do shit like play to his strengths. We mustn't sell him to those bastards. It would spoil the whole Morata thing they have going, which is one of the finest comedies in years.

We literally can't strengthen another top 4 team after giving Utd Sanchez. That would be batshit crazy. But they're gonna try and balance the books and Giroud's butterz missus is in the driving seat it seems.

[Cripps]

Tbf, we don't have a clue who's doing what behind the scenes. You have to hope Wenger played a major role in this or he'll end up taking it out on the player in terms of selection, position and game time. I still wonder if he actually wanted Lacazette.

Now, surely, he HAS to change the system. And to do that he has to sign up Ozil and Jack. And get a DM and a leader for the defence. 2 days left to splash the remainder of the transfer profits, especially if Bif is going to add another 35 mill to the pot. Don't stop now. Get the DM and get the defender and we could actually be in business.

This is like starting up an old limo. Cough, splutter, will it die and end up a dud or is the engine finally going to kick into life again? Reprieve after years of torment, or one last, unbearable false dawn.

Does Wenger have anything left? If he can't do the business with Ozil, Jack, Aubameyang, Lacazette and Mkhitaryan then he's got no business being within a hundred miles of the place.

You open up some interesting questions. Surely if we're still shit with the best strikerforce in the league he literally has to go? The board can't give him a new contract surely.

[Niall_Quinn]

You open up some interesting questions. Surely if we're still shit with the best strikerforce in the league he literally has to go? The board can't give him a new contract surely.

Last season's top scorer from France. Last season's top scorer from Germany. These guys can score goals. Now Wenger needs to arrange the team around them to give them the opportunity to do that. No more fucking tappety tap and 2mph counters. He has to change the way we play and now's the time to do it. The last thing we want is for Auba to be integrated into this current shitty system, because that really will be 60 mill down the drain.

[Özim]

Not worried about Giroud going to Chelsea if he does (and we get Aubameyang), he's 31 and really only decent as sub, when he starts he doesn't score often.

Don't rate the guy, happy enough to have him as a sub who comes on in the last 20 minutes but won't be a great loss.

35 million as well, our net spend will again be well into the positive, not many clubs can keep the fans happy without actually spending any money they earn.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I wonder if Laca could play right in a front 3. Similar style to Theo looking to make runs in behind, but he's much better technically albeit not as quick. He works hard and his link up is decent from what I've seen.

Well he reckons he is faster than Usain Bolt over the 35 yards and has challenged him to a race twice allegedly. That should be fast enough....

[GP]

Lacazette
Mkhitaryn
Aubamayang
Ozil


LMAO

[KSE Comedy Club]

I hope not.

Me too, but the likely hood is this is exactly what will happen as its the most illogical thing that we could do

[KSE Comedy Club]

Well he reckons he is faster than Usain Bolt over the 35 yards and has challenged him to a race twice allegedly. That should be fast enough....

Well from watching him run in the cup game the other night I would say Laca is a fucking liar.

[Nozza!]

Lacazette
Mkhitaryn
Aubamayang
Ozil


LMAO

Oi, geezers, well that's next season's back four sorted...

[KSE Comedy Club]

I can't say I want Giroud to go tbh.

He's not the best and not a starter but he is a good squad/bench player. He has always tried when he's played even it he hasn't always scored but he has got some important goals & match winners for us in the past.

We should be looking to strengthen further not stretch the squad thinner.

Out:
Ox
Coq
Theo
Sanchez
Giroud

In:
Mavs
Mhiki
Auba

<_<

[KSE Comedy Club]

Oi, geezers, well that's next season's back four sorted...

We have Jack & Iwobi who can also play there, as well, you know.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Well from watching him run in the cup game the other night I would say Laca is a fucking liar.

:doh:

I actually meant Aubemayang is supposedly faster than Bolt over 35 yards!

Lacazette isn't even as fast as me!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So what midfielders are people wanting to come in?

Seri is the popular choice....anyone else?

[KSE Comedy Club]

:doh:

I actually meant Aubemayang is supposedly faster than Bolt over 35 yards!

Lacazette isn't even as fast as me!

Well, yes, that would make sense :lol:

[GP]

Oi, geezers, well that's next season's back four sorted...

No, they are attacking players, not defenders.

[Cripps]

So what midfielders are people wanting to come in?

Seri is the popular choice....anyone else?

Amaury Bischoff.

[KSE Comedy Club]

So what midfielders are people wanting to come in?

Seri is the popular choice....anyone else?

Messi - he can play anywhere
Patrick Vieira

[Cripps]

Guillem Bellendgue:

ALL DONE! @Aubameyang7 will be #AFC player pending medical. Fixed fee of £53m with £2.5m adds on if major trophies won, pass CL group stage (so pays itself). Wages not even half what Alexis wanted. Not the only deal #AFC working on.


It's off then.

[Özim]

We'll be saving a few million on the major trophies being won clause, probably knew that so fee is more like 53 million all in.

Reality is Aubameyang replaces Sanchez, so in that sense the team will be similar quality wise, we've just added Mkhitaryan in midfield, no sign of quality coming in in DM or CB though the area we've struggled in all season, so the reality is we won't be a lot stronger than we were before, especially given Aubameyang (if he signs) needs to get use to playing in the PL.

All this done possibly by selling players as well, everybody wins, club is happy because they haven't spent a penny and fans are happy, well because anything will keep them happy these days :lol:

Don't get me wrong Aubameyang would be a good signing, but this is the bare minimum in truth, replacing what we lost.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Messi - he can play anywhere
Patrick Vieira

Not too many obvious options though....

Who is the next Vieira at the moment?

[AFC Leveller]

---------/Jack/Xhaka--------

Ozil-----------------Mkhi

------Auba---Laca---

Not bad tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

We'll be saving a few million on the major trophies being won clause, probably knew that so fee is more like 53 million all in.

Reality is Aubameyang replaces Sanchez, so in that sense the team will be similar quality wise, we've just added Mkhitaryan in midfield, no sign of quality coming in in DM or CB though the area we've struggled in all season, so the reality is we won't be a lot stronger than we were before, especially given Aubameyang (if he signs) needs to get use to playing in the PL.

All this done possibly by selling players as well, everybody wins, club is happy because they haven't spent a penny and fans are happy, well because anything will keep them happy these days :lol:

Do you not get a hint from this that Wenger might be on the way out? Seems to me his role has been downsized and if he had been the only party in charge of this window we'd still be haggling with Dortmund in increments of £500. Getting this over the line when there was dispute on the final fee is the opposite of what has happened in the past. This could be progress, finally, with others gaining responsibility for the finances, contracts and negotiations while Wenger is left to ruin the team. Yes, I know the fact he remains in charge on match day is a severe problem, but there are cracks developing in his empire. This is a bigger plus than anything else. The first signs we might be waking up from this coma.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not too many obvious options though....

Who is the next Vieira at the moment?

That's what the new guys are here for. Identify the talent and bring it in. It's beyond the bounds of fantasy we'll sign anyone else this window, but the summer might be interesting. And it's been a while since we could say that.

I don't want to get carried away, this is like opening one eye just a touch, for a split second, to take a fleeting glance at what might, possibly, theoretically be hope. But it's step, in fact one giant leap for Arsenalkind.

[Özim]

Do you not get a hint from this that Wenger might be on the way out? Seems to me his role has been downsized and if he had been the only party in charge of this window we'd still be haggling with Dortmund in increments of £500. Getting this over the line when there was dispute on the final fee is the opposite of what has happened in the past. This could be progress, finally, with others gaining responsibility for the finances, contracts and negotiations while Wenger is left to ruin the team. Yes, I know the fact he remains in charge on match day is a severe problem, but there are cracks developing in his empire. This is a bigger plus than anything else. The first signs we might be waking up from this coma.

Not really no, I reckon he'll be around for a while yet, don't forget this is all money raised from players sales and removing player wages off the bill.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Don't get too happy....Evans might come in yet.

[Cripps]

Not too many obvious options though....

Who is the next Vieira at the moment?

Abou Diaby.

[Cripps]

Do you not get a hint from this that Wenger might be on the way out? Seems to me his role has been downsized and if he had been the only party in charge of this window we'd still be haggling with Dortmund in increments of £500. Getting this over the line when there was dispute on the final fee is the opposite of what has happened in the past. This could be progress, finally, with others gaining responsibility for the finances, contracts and negotiations while Wenger is left to ruin the team. Yes, I know the fact he remains in charge on match day is a severe problem, but there are cracks developing in his empire. This is a bigger plus than anything else. The first signs we might be waking up from this coma.

Sanllehi to come.

SAS:bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Not really no, I reckon he'll be around for a while yet, don't forget this is all money raised from players sales and removing player wages off the bill.

But we aren't going to move from farce to perfection in a month. Previously there were no signs at all that any of the shit we've been seeing season after season was ever going to change. Now we have some key appointments in areas Wenger has been fucking up for years, and we've possibly/ probably seen the result of those appointments (almost - not quite there yet) bear results. And this indicates Wenger's power grip is loosening. Steps towards something, anything that's not what Wenger has subjected us to for a decade. Hints of realisation and change.

We now move into Catch 22 territory. If these new players help the team perform then Wenger's position is strengthened. If we win cups then he's definitely staying another year at least. If we qualify for the CL then the ultimate prize has been attained and we can have a bus parade. Any of these outcomes will probably mean we suffer Wenger for another season yet. But I don't think these new guys would be coming in at all if the long term future was Wenger. These are serious people with reputations, they wouldn't have signed up to be pawns in a game. There must be a plan in place and all indications point to it being a plan that involves Wenger either moving out or moving upstairs.

He's 155 years old FFS. He has to leave sometime.

[Niall_Quinn]

Don't get too happy....Evans might come in yet.

Provided Wenger sticks to his methods of refusing to train the defence, Evans will probably retain enough experience from sane coaches to provide a bit of help until he catches the defensive curse and transforms into a headless chicken. Better than seeing Merts on the pitch at least. Though a little imagination on a more suitable, longer term target wouldn't have hurt us.

[Globalgunner]

No, they are attacking players, not defenders.

Wenger may see them as defenders, you never know. Put Cech up front with Jack in goal.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger may see them as defenders, you never know. Put Cech up front with Jack in goal.

As well I like Jack there. He has quality to also grow as a player. At least to 6'2" If we can do it, we will do it.

[GP]

Wenger may see them as defenders, you never know. Put Cech up front with Jack in goal.

I find that unlikely. He's never done it before.

[Niall_Quinn]

I find that unlikely. He's never done it before.

He did. He put Almunia in goal.

[GP]

He did. He put Almunia in goal.

While not up to our high standard much of the time, Almuna always was a goalkeeper.

[Özim]

But we aren't going to move from farce to perfection in a month. Previously there were no signs at all that any of the shit we've been seeing season after season was ever going to change. Now we have some key appointments in areas Wenger has been fucking up for years, and we've possibly/ probably seen the result of those appointments (almost - not quite there yet) bear results. And this indicates Wenger's power grip is loosening. Steps towards something, anything that's not what Wenger has subjected us to for a decade. Hints of realisation and change.

We now move into Catch 22 territory. If these new players help the team perform then Wenger's position is strengthened. If we win cups then he's definitely staying another year at least. If we qualify for the CL then the ultimate prize has been attained and we can have a bus parade. Any of these outcomes will probably mean we suffer Wenger for another season yet. But I don't think these new guys would be coming in at all if the long term future was Wenger. These are serious people with reputations, they wouldn't have signed up to be pawns in a game. There must be a plan in place and all indications point to it being a plan that involves Wenger either moving out or moving upstairs.

He's 155 years old FFS. He has to leave sometime.

Hard to say to be honest, the way I see it we've sold Ox, Coquelin, Walcott and Sanchez and saved a huge amount on salaries and brought in a lot of money, The signings we seem to be getting are Mkhitaryan a player who was surplus to requirements at Man U (by all intentsand purposes we did them a favour as they didn't want him) who we didn't need in the 1st place and a striker to replace Aubameyang funded by the money raised (if we sell Giroud as well we'll be well up again on transfers).

Clearly Wenger knows we've lose Sanchez and knows we needed to replace him, he also knows this doesn't affect the clubs profitability, the other thing is the only other time Wenger spent in the January transfer window was when top 4 was at stake, which it is this time round, so he's lost Sanchez and top 4 is on the line, so it's very feasible he's want to spend to make sure he gets top 4 (Aubameyang after all can't play in the Europa and at 28 won't be around too long for any new manager).

Not denying the new guys have recommended certain players, but not convinced this is a changing of the guard either, Wenger has another year on his contract after this season and has said before he loves the game and doesn't know what he'd do without it, moreover Gazidis (if you believe rumours) wanted him out in the summer but he stil got a new 2 year contract, so if he wants it and the club is making money the contract will be there again.

[Globalgunner]

Whatever happened to that tall lanky DM chap we were supposed to be signing from Sevilla?. i thought he was already in London for a medical. Maybe Wenger asked him how he would fancy playing CB?

[Özim]

Wenger may see them as defenders, you never know. Put Cech up front with Jack in goal.

You never know with Wenger, he's clueless about what it takes to build a good team and literally doesn't understand why players should play in their natural position. Mkhitaryan said he's play anywhere, Wenger must have been on cloud nine when he heard that.

[Özim]

Whatever happened to that tall lanky DM chap we were supposed to be signing from Sevilla?. i thought he was already in London for a medical. Maybe Wenger asked him how he would fancy playing CB?

Came to London had his medical then went home to Sevilla and said he had a clean bill of health!

That Seri guy as well we were linked with last summer, none of the deals for DM will happen though, Wenger doesn't like them, we haven't had a decent one for over 10 years.

[fakeyank]

There’s no need to be mean just because I used to constantly claim you were a repressed homo living in a part of the world where that kind of thing could land you in prison.

I didn’t say it to be nasty I just said it cos i thought it was funny :haha:

Dude, you seriously need help. You have mental issues. I am kind of glad they dont sell guns in UK like they do here in the states.. I am almost certain you would be one of those school shooters. Get a grip!

[HCZ]

Dude, you seriously need help. You have mental issues. I am kind of glad they dont sell guns in UK like they do here in the states.. I am almost certain you would be one of those school shooters. Get a grip!

:haha:

That really brought a smile to my face. I’m in work till ten, so I need it

[Cripps]

He did. He put Almunia in goal.

:haha:

[Cripps]

Dude, you seriously need help. You have mental issues. I am kind of glad they dont sell guns in UK like they do here in the states.. I am almost certain you would be one of those school shooters. Get a grip!

:haha: :haha:

HCZ ripped to shreds again

Fakeyank :bow:

[Cripps]

Hard to say to be honest, the way I see it we've sold Ox, Coquelin, Walcott and Sanchez and saved a huge amount on salaries and brought in a lot of money, The signings we seem to be getting are Mkhitaryan a player who was surplus to requirements at Man U (by all intentsand purposes we did them a favour as they didn't want him) who we didn't need in the 1st place and a striker to replace Aubameyang funded by the money raised (if we sell Giroud as well we'll be well up again on transfers).

Clearly Wenger knows we've lose Sanchez and knows we needed to replace him, he also knows this doesn't affect the clubs profitability, the other thing is the only other time Wenger spent in the January transfer window was when top 4 was at stake, which it is this time round, so he's lost Sanchez and top 4 is on the line, so it's very feasible he's want to spend to make sure he gets top 4 (Aubameyang after all can't play in the Europa and at 28 won't be around too long for any new manager).

Not denying the new guys have recommended certain players, but not convinced this is a changing of the guard either, Wenger has another year on his contract after this season and has said before he loves the game and doesn't know what he'd do without it, moreover Gazidis (if you believe rumours) wanted him out in the summer but he stil got a new 2 year contract, so if he wants it and the club is making money the contract will be there again.

The club certainly seem to follow the 'balance your books" motto when it comes to business. It's always 1 in 1 out kind of thing, always looking to breakeven and be as efficient as possible. I don't think we'll ever move away from that, not whilst we follow the sustainable road. If jabba comes in then yes but under this ownership it's about trying to be smart and shrewd.

[KSE Comedy Club]

The club certainly seem to follow the 'balance your books" motto when it comes to business. It's always 1 in 1 out kind of thing, always looking to breakeven and be as efficient as possible. I don't think we'll ever move away from that, not whilst we follow the sustainable road. If jabba comes in then yes but under this ownership it's about trying to be smart and shrewd.

You mean '2-3 out, 1 in' :coffee:

[Özim]

Spurs interested in signing Moura, good player wouldn't have minded him here to replace Walcott, still only 25 and at just over £20 million is a snip.

[Özim]

The club certainly seem to follow the 'balance your books" motto when it comes to business. It's always 1 in 1 out kind of thing, always looking to breakeven and be as efficient as possible. I don't think we'll ever move away from that, not whilst we follow the sustainable road. If jabba comes in then yes but under this ownership it's about trying to be smart and shrewd.

It's not even balancing the books though, it's balancing the transfers so we never spend any of the profits we make, despite a very low net spend in the last decade. Almost every other club spends more than us, the two signings are just really replacements for players leaving not additions to improve our squad/team.

[Master Splinter]

Giroud when he thought he was going to be leading the line at Dortmund:


http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/27/980x490/landscape-1467891327-gettyimages-184002246-2.jpg

[Master Splinter]

Giroud when his wife tells him West Ham is the only option:


https://femfreq2.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/logan-rain.jpg?w=1100&h=578

[Cripps]

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2017.05/article/591c7c97c361881b3c8b4575.jpg

[KSE Comedy Club]

That’s brilliant MS :haha::haha::haha::haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2017.05/article/591c7c97c361881b3c8b4575.jpg

That better not be our new right winger.

[Cripps]

:lol:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I'm a bit concerned we don't have any orthodox wingers at the club now and think we could have done worse than to bring Lucas Moura in. Of course the width can come from the full backs but that means we're obliged to play a back 3 and probably not accommodate both Laca and Aubameyang.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm not happy with us selling Bif to Chelsea.

We should not be doing them a favour.

280 odd goals would have left us this January. :doh:

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently we are prepared to accept just £15m for him.

Chelsea are desperate and he only signed a new deal 12 months ago. Why aren’t we milking them?

[Power n Glory]

Bif doesn't want to leave London otherwise we'd have just sold him to Dortmund. Pretty cuntish.

[Cripps]

We should lead them on until the last minute and pull the plug, like that prick Jose did with Ba and left us screwed.

[Niall_Quinn]

Apparently we are prepared to accept just £15m for him.

Chelsea are desperate and he only signed a new deal 12 months ago. Why aren’t we milking them?

No way. 15 mill for an International striker? That can't possibly be right. I thought 35 mill was pretty damn cheap considering what Morata cost. 15 mill. Can't be.

If we go and sell Bif to the chavs for 15 mill we are going to end up looking like the world's biggest mugs.

Although, tbf, we already look like that.

[Niall_Quinn]

We should lead them on until the last minute and pull the plug, like that prick Jose did with Ba and left us screwed.

This.

We absolutely have to do this. You fuck up your rivals, you don't help them out.

[Xhaka Can’t]

This.

We absolutely have to do this. You fuck up your rivals, you don't help them out.

You clearly aren’t up to date with the Arsenal way.

[Cripps]

No way. 15 mill for an International striker? That can't possibly be right. I thought 35 mill was pretty damn cheap considering what Morata cost. 15 mill. Can't be.

If we go and sell Bif to the chavs for 15 mill we are going to end up looking like the world's biggest mugs.

Although, tbf, we already look like that.

Swansea got £12m for a 32 year old Llorente who is cack.

We need Sanllehi in place ASAP. We are being taken for mugs again.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Isn't the chain supposedly that Dortmund will only let Aubamayang leave if they get a replacement in Batshui, Chelsea will only let him go if they can get a replacement in Giroud, and in turn you will only let Giroud go to Chelsea if they offload Batshui to Dortmund clearing the way for you to get Aubamayang.

[Marc Overmars]

Swansea got £12m for a 32 year old Llorente who is cack.

We need Sanllehi in place ASAP. We are being taken for mugs again.

Troy Deeney might be going for the same money as well and Giroud is twice the player.

It’s bizarre. I can only assume Wenker is being a soft touch and doing Giroud a favour for the World Cup. He is easily worth at least 25m and it’s even more odd because Chelsea were willing to pay almost 30m for Dzeko.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

We should have made it clear that Dortmund's replacement is their own business and concern!

[Niall_Quinn]

Isn't the chain supposedly that Dortmund will only let Aubamayang leave if they get a replacement in Batshui, Chelsea will only let him go if they can get a replacement in Giroud, and in turn you will only let Giroud go to Chelsea if they offload Batshui to Dortmund clearing the way for you to get Aubamayang.

Well fuck it, let's just firebomb their stadium then.

[Power n Glory]

We should have made it clear that Dortmund's replacement is their own business and concern!

Money talks. If we'd have coughed up the asking price earlier they'd have enough time to buy a replacement. Now we're stuck in this disgusting threesome.

[Niall_Quinn]

Money talks. If we'd have coughed up the asking price earlier they'd have enough time to buy a replacement. Now we're stuck in this disgusting threesome.

It took ages to gag Wenger and get him into his straightjacket.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sturridge off on loan to the Geordies medical centre.

[Cripps]

Money talks. If we'd have coughed up the asking price earlier they'd have enough time to buy a replacement. Now we're stuck in this disgusting threesome.

That's a very good point.

[Niall_Quinn]

When it comes to the crunch, I'd rather keep Bif. He's not a top tier striker that leads you to titles. But he gets goals, and that's rare enough. The chavs know that too. He'll sure as hell get more goals the Dzeko or that other ex-gypo who used to be the best in the world (apparently). What was his name again? Honestly, I can't remember.

We need 3 strikers, don't we (if we correctly exclude Akpom). So why are we selling?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Sturridge off on loan to the Geordies medical centre.

He's already joined West Brom's medical centre on loan.

[Niall_Quinn]

Gerard Pique's buyout clause in his new contract is 441 mill :haha:

That's nowhere near enough to stop the gypos poaching him for their bench.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's already joined West Brom on loan.

I guess the Geordies are upset about that then? Admittedly the headlines did say West Brom. But what does that prove?

[Cripps]

Chelsea consider swapping David Luiz for Arsenal's Olivier Giroud - EXCLUSIVE #CFC #AFC
https://t.co/HB2q5hC4vy

:lol: swap galore :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Now that’s something I would consider.

[Penguin]

Chelsea consider swapping David Luiz for Arsenal's Olivier Giroud - EXCLUSIVE #CFC #AFC
https://t.co/HB2q5hC4vy

:lol: swap galore :bow:

Hell no.

Kante on the other hand...

[Cripps]

Merry-go-round: Giroud was lined up to replace Aubameyang at Dortmund then got offer from Chelsea & was keen, so Dortmund turned to Batshuayi. But Chelsea baulked at Giroud fee so discussed Batshuayi/Llorente swap with Spurs, which nobody agreed on. Deadlock #AFC #BVB #CFC THFC https://t.co/HA6ymZ6IiN

:doh:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Unless Dortmund are trying to get batshit and the chavs won’t let him go unless they get Giroud......


oh, it seems I forgot to refresh the thread before posting :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

:wacko:

It’s going to the wire. If we miss out on Auba.. :haha:

[fakeyank]

Watch this entire saga resulting in a whole lot of nothing. And then wait on Wengers comment about how he can write a book about this transfer window.

#BeenThereDoneThat