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Özim
20-01-2018, 08:05 PM
It's amazing that you hang on to his every word.

I don't but I do think he's a loser who will do anything not to spend money so that at the end of the season when it's all gone pearshaped he has his "I made profit" claim to harp on about.

Özim
20-01-2018, 08:07 PM
Zim come on mate, you should know by now not to believe a word that comes out of wenkers mouth.

He talks bucketfuls of horseshit every time he gets the chance.

Very true, trouble is I also know we've heard BS rumours like this time and time again only for nothing to happen, although we might make it look like we're interested in the end we do just enough so that we don't have to sign the player.

KSE Comedy Club
20-01-2018, 08:12 PM
I do understand where you’re coming from and I agree, but I think this is more to do with Mislintat and Gazidis.

im sure the work is going on behind the scenes to bring him in, even wenker knows he couldn’t get away with it falling through now

Özim
20-01-2018, 09:35 PM
Looks like a straight swap between Sanchez and Mhikhi , no mention of money changing hands.

I'd call it a bad deal (because let's face it it is, losing your best player and top goalscorer for a reject who hasn't turned up int he last year and a half and has hardly created or scored any goals), but Sanchez haa barely got any time left on his contract.

Underwhelming due to the circumstances, feels like we're the losers here sadly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42762918

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11216435/henrikh-mkhitaryan-to-have-arsenal-medical-in-next-24-hours

If there's money involved then fair enough though, we'll take it, if it's jut a straight swap then we shouldn't have taken the money and spent it elsewhere.

LDG
20-01-2018, 10:45 PM
All I see, is us selling our best player to a rival, and buying a player who is....ok.

Yay!

KSE Comedy Club
20-01-2018, 11:13 PM
The only way this deal will be any good is if we get Auba as well, so they can link up again as they did at dortmund.

If it doesn’t happen, then this whole thing sucks big sweaty balls!

KSE Comedy Club
21-01-2018, 12:43 AM
First bid rejected, but we are going back with a second bid nearer to what they want.

Reports suggest £55m

Marc Overmars
21-01-2018, 12:48 AM
How many times has a straight swap like this happened? I can’t think of anything off the top of my head.

Often there is cash involved as a buffer but I suppose we didn’t hold any chips in this saga and frankly there is no reason why United would offer cash as well.

I’m satisfied with the deal though. I’d rather have a decent player coming in than cash burning a hole in the clubs pockets. Granted the player is not as good as Alexis but then he’s one of the worlds best, it was always likely to be a downgrade whatever we did.

McNamara That Ghost...
21-01-2018, 01:21 AM
450k a week for Alexis? Well, there's no competing with that, even if we were higher in the league.

McNamara That Ghost...
21-01-2018, 08:29 AM
Happy Birthday Mkhitaryan!

You've got a move to Arsenal to celebrate. :rose:

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:46 AM
First bid rejected, but we are going back with a second bid nearer to what they want.

Reports suggest £55m

Yep.

We've seen this somewhere before.

How many times can they pull this stunt? It's incredible.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:47 AM
Happy Birthday Mkhitaryan!

You've got a move to Arsenal to celebrate. :rose:

Now let's sell him. He's on a long contract, how much can we get?

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:52 AM
More Wenger delusion syndrome.

Fact. We got a good deal for Alexis.

Oh yes. We did. Provided you completely ignore the fact we've just sold one of the best players in world football, at a time when transfer fees are inflated to the moon, for 20 mill. Forget that bit and now pretend Alexis is only actually worth 20 mill (that's the crucial bit of the argument).

Now Utd paid 28 mill for Mkhitaryan. And Alexis was only worth 20 mill. So we came out top on this swap with 8 mill more. :trophy:

Fantastic.

So you see, allowing the contracts of our star players to run down and encouraging them to hunt for the exit because the leeches that run the club have zero ambition is - ideal! Just as Wenger says. And to prove the point, in the next window we'll be offloading a fella called Ozil, for free.

The victories just keep coming and the fans just keep on paying.

Penguin
21-01-2018, 10:34 AM
I am actually glad we are getting Mkhitaryan at least. Our squad is shocking at the moment.

Özim
21-01-2018, 11:14 AM
I am actually glad we are getting Mkhitaryan at least. Our squad is shocking at the moment.

Our suad is shocking you're right (some people thought it was good and good enough to win the title however), Mkhitaryan does't make much difference though in reality.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 11:34 AM
I am actually glad we are getting Mkhitaryan at least. Our squad is shocking at the moment.

Rescuing something out of this shambles is better than nothing, agreed. But some fans are now making out we're in a better off position than we were before. Somehow Alexis is now an overrated player and Mkhitaryan is the player we have always needed. Even if that were true, I'm hoping against hope the wool isn't pulled over the eyes of the majority of the fan base again, just as things were turning decisively against Wenger.

Wenger has fucked up the contracts of our players because he is entirely incompetent and not fit to manage a football club. This is the key fact that has to be retained above all other speculation and bad feeling resulting from movement in the transfer window. We've let a 100+ million player go for 20 mill. That is the final reality of it all. Wenger has cost the club 80 million quid on this deal alone, if we even rate the failed player we got in return at 20 mill. And Wenger's biggest claim to hanging on despite his horrendous record is he's a safe pair of hands financially. We'll that's bullshit. We now see he brings NOTHING WHATSOEVER to the table. He's incompetent across the board. But that will not be the final analysis if he's allowed to get away with this bullshit story about the team being better without Alexis and about us having done well by pulling a player swap out of the carnage.

The fans need to keep their sights trained on the real causes of our problems and not get distracted by another round of BS. I mean so what? So what if Aubameyang signs? So now we have another big name in the squad, like Alexis, Ozil and... oh yes, Lacazette. What does that get us when Wenger is the guy calling the shots?

He's done his work well on the fan base. We are now celebrating and getting excited about avoiding total disaster and escaping with a consolation. We really are the consolation team. If we can fail gloriously, run in a distant second and play half a match then great - We are the Arsenal!

It's beggars belief what this fraud has done to mentality of this club.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 02:31 PM
SKY SOURCES: @ChelseaFC interested in signing @BurnleyOfficial striker Ashley Barnes. #SSN https://t.co/T5SqVfqwq8

:haha: :haha:

:rose:

KSE Comedy Club
21-01-2018, 03:09 PM
Are they just phishing around for a laugh!?!

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 03:20 PM
Are they just phishing around for a laugh!?!

Some sort of pub bingo thing I think.

Globalgunner
21-01-2018, 03:54 PM
What is Adebayor doing these days?

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 03:58 PM
What is Adebayor doing these days?

Trying to blame Arsenal for him being shite.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 04:06 PM
What is Adebayor doing these days?

Washing elephants and slagging off Wenger :coffee:

Munchies
21-01-2018, 04:09 PM
Just read Ornstein say Arsenal have no further funds if Auba is signed

:lol:

How much has come in vs gone out?

Add the Ox money too

Globalgunner
21-01-2018, 04:31 PM
Just read Ornstein say Arsenal have no further funds if Auba is signed

:lol:

How much has come in vs gone out?

Add the Ox money too

Our cash pile is in a fixed deposit. As collateral against Ranch purchase funds.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 04:52 PM
Just read Ornstein say Arsenal have no further funds if Auba is signed

:lol:

How much has come in vs gone out?

Add the Ox money too

Hence the new dictionary definition for lying cunts. How timely and appropriate.

Dictionaries :bow:

Cripps
21-01-2018, 04:53 PM
Where does all the f*cking money go?

AFC Leveller
21-01-2018, 04:54 PM
https://www.facebook.com/arsenalfantv/posts/1746432875420548

Apparently Gazidis, Sven and Fahmy are in Germany trying to finalize the Auba deal.

Wasn't the Dortmund CEO in London yesterday ?

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 04:54 PM
Where does all the f*cking money go?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKC8pSFg1Vw

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 04:55 PM
https://www.facebook.com/arsenalfantv/posts/1746432875420548

Apparently Gazidis, Sven and Fahmy are in Germany trying to finalize the Auba deal.

Wasn't the Dortmund CEO in London yesterday ?

They waved out the windows in mid-flight.

I don't believe a word of it, and shame on any long suffering Arsenal fan that does.

Özim
21-01-2018, 04:58 PM
Just read Ornstein say Arsenal have no further funds if Auba is signed

:lol:

How much has come in vs gone out?

Add the Ox money too

Amazing how they keep fans happy without actually spending any money. Because Ox was sold last summer half the fanbase has probably forgotten and thinks the club is changing.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 05:05 PM
Amazing how they keep fans happy without actually spending any money. Because Ox was sold last summer half the fanbase has probably forgotten and thinks the club is changing.

What stinking money?

I don't see no stinking money!

What stinking money you talking 'bout?

What you going to do 'bout it?

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 05:08 PM
Kroenke identified way, way back that a large proportion of the Arsenal fan base consisted of suckers who could get fucked up the arsehole over and over without ever raising a whimper.

Can you REALLY blame him for taking advantage of that?

Wouldn't he be laughed out of the room as a stupid arse fuck for not picking that low hanging fruit?

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 05:09 PM
Oh, and Wenger identified that a long time ago too.

And look at him now. The worst manager in football. 10 million quid a year!

Yeeh-haw!

Cripps
21-01-2018, 06:11 PM
Looks like Sven and Ivan have travelled to Dortmund. Pics:

https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/955135788487970817

McNamara That Ghost...
21-01-2018, 06:23 PM
Would you give them Bif? I wouldn't.

Gooner23
21-01-2018, 06:26 PM
Would you give them Bif? I wouldn't.

Na, keep Bif.

Pay them what they want for Auba and get the deal done ASAP.

Marc Overmars
21-01-2018, 06:48 PM
Ideally I would keep Bif for the remainder of the season and flog him in the summer. However if Dortmund won’t play ball without him, then yes get him the fuck out of here. Aubameyang represents a step in the right direction so we have to get it done any way we can.

Özim
21-01-2018, 06:51 PM
Get rid of Giroud, we don't need another striker if we have Auba and Lacazette, no room for him.

It'll save us some money too, but regardless is we buy Auba we have no money, despite having spent less money than we spent.

Not being funny but people shouldn't be satisfied with signing Auba and Mhiki when we've sold Ox, Coquelin, Walcott, Sanchez (and maybe Giroud), yes these are decent players but we need a GK, CB and DM badly, so there better be money available in the summer because we should have a load of money left over from the years of spending next nothing and cashing in.

Love the way this club creates the illusion it's going all out and spending big when the opposite is the reality.

Globalgunner
21-01-2018, 07:13 PM
Dont see why Dortmund would want Giroud. immobile, totally unsuited to their style of play. We should be trying to see if Chelsea are interested. Seems they are going all out for a big stationary lump, except Giroud is not a battering ram. His looks are much too important to him. We may be stuck with him for a while.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 07:18 PM
I'd keep Giroud.

There's a lack of good tall, target man strikers hence why Chelsea are looking at complete rejects.

He's a great asset and great at changing the game, and adding a different dimension.

Özim
21-01-2018, 07:31 PM
Aubameyang may or may not happen (since it's actually costing us nothing because we've raised it from selling players it could) but:

https://i.imgur.com/oJX9cmZ.png

KSE Comedy Club
21-01-2018, 07:46 PM
Oh no, not his shit again!

Just pay Dortmund what they are asking for, it hasn’t cost us any extra as the money is all from players sold - you fucking thieving bastards!!

edit: actually is that a wind up zim? I can’t find anything from any news outlets about it??

Edit, edit: I get it now :getcoat:

Power n Glory
21-01-2018, 07:56 PM
I'd keep Giroud.

There's a lack of good tall, target man strikers hence why Chelsea are looking at complete rejects.

He's a great asset and great at changing the game, and adding a different dimension.

But would you keep him even if it meant the deal for Aubameyang breaks down? Is he worth that much? There aren't many World Class strikers on the market. That has to outweigh a good Plan B striker.

KSE Comedy Club
21-01-2018, 08:00 PM
The thing is, we don’t need to give them Giroud, we have the money to buy Aubameyang outright.

I don’t think Giroud is great but I wouldn’t want to let go of him just yet either.

We should be strengthening the squad, not replacing or number for number.
We need some kind of depth

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 08:03 PM
Aubameyang may or may not happen (since it's actually costing us nothing because we've raised it from selling players it could) but:

https://i.imgur.com/oJX9cmZ.png

:doh:

Looks like they've run out of ideas at Pravda HQ. Bad news on Aubameyang imminent then? Let me guess. Our lowball offer was rejected and we've settled for blaming the gypos for inflating the transfer market?

EDIT: Go me. This is FAR more believable than the Aubameyang transfer nonsense.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 08:06 PM
But would you keep him even if it meant the deal for Aubameyang breaks down? Is he worth that much? There aren't many World Class strikers on the market. That has to outweigh a good Plan B striker.

There is no deal for Aubameyang. All we've done is what we always do. Stick in a lowball offer. Not only will Bif be going nowhere, he'll be our main striker again once Lacazette gets fed up enough with Wenker and starts looking for the exit.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 08:07 PM
The thing is, we don’t need to give them Giroud, we have the money to buy Aubameyang outright.

I don’t think Giroud is great but I wouldn’t want to let go of him just yet either.

We should be strengthening the squad, not replacing or number for number.
We need some kind of depth

They're keeping the money. That's what they are in this for.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 08:15 PM
Pigba is already squealing for more cash. They'll have to move a new pig trough into his sty to carry all the dosh.

And for what, I wonder? I know the media says he's pure class, and I'm sure that's true, but it's a bit hard to spot it when you actually watch him play.

KSE Comedy Club
21-01-2018, 08:18 PM
They're keeping the money. That's what they are in this for.you are probably right!! :lol:



:crying::crying:

McNamara That Ghost...
21-01-2018, 08:21 PM
Getting a bit hysterical when people somehow forget Higuain is not still at Marketing. :lol:

I think that's a bit disingenuous anyway given we have signed Ozil and Sanchez since then though, yes granted we've not signed everybody we've been heavily linked with.

Power n Glory
21-01-2018, 08:39 PM
The thing is, we don’t need to give them Giroud, we have the money to buy Aubameyang outright.

I don’t think Giroud is great but I wouldn’t want to let go of him just yet either.

We should be strengthening the squad, not replacing or number for number.
We need some kind of depth

How much do they want? If it's a choice between £30m-£50m plus Giroud or a ridiculous fee that's over £90m, I'd rather we'd get rid of Giroud and not blow the budget on one player whilst Wenger is still here.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 08:39 PM
But would you keep him even if it meant the deal for Aubameyang breaks down? Is he worth that much? There aren't many World Class strikers on the market. That has to outweigh a good Plan B striker.

I don't get why it hinges on Giroud. We're pissing in money. Those c*nts are outright stealing it.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 08:40 PM
Oh no, not his shit again!

Just pay Dortmund what they are asking for, it hasn’t cost us any extra as the money is all from players sold - you fucking thieving bastards!!

edit: actually is that a wind up zim? I can’t find anything from any news outlets about it??

Edit, edit: I get it now :getcoat:

:haha:

Jeebus and NQ :pal:

Power n Glory
21-01-2018, 08:42 PM
Getting a bit hysterical when people somehow forget Higuain is not still at Marketing. :lol:

I think that's a bit disingenuous anyway given we have signed Ozil and Sanchez since then though, yes granted we've not signed everybody we've been heavily linked with.

I think that's more of a reference to how indecisive we are. We could have had Higuain and Ozil that summer. They must have known Ozil was on the cards for a move since we were in contact with Madrid.

Power n Glory
21-01-2018, 08:44 PM
I don't get why it hinges on Giroud. We're pissing in money. Those c*nts are outright stealing it.

We are but I also don't want us to piss it away whilst Wenger is in charge.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 09:03 PM
We are but I also don't want us to piss it away whilst Wenger is in charge.

Aubemayang isn't pissing it away though. If anything it's strengthening the squad for the next guy.

My gripe is it probably shows Wenger isn't going anywhere anytime soon. You don't bring in the likes of Aubergine to walk away :(

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:15 PM
Aubemayang isn't pissing it away though. If anything it's strengthening the squad for the next guy.

My gripe is it probably shows Wenger isn't going anywhere anytime soon. You don't bring in the likes of Aubergine to walk away :(

It really, really isn't strengthening the squad. I mean Auba seems like he's a decent player. I don't see top tier as many do, but I do see a very effective striker. Even lethal.

IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE HIM.

We have Wenger.

If we agree to Dortmund's asking price, or if pigs fly over the moon wearing fancy dress, it'll just mean an awful lot of cash down the drain. I'd be excited if Wenger was leaving this summer. But the old cunt has a year to go after that, and that's more than enough time to destroy any player, including Auba.

10 years on, it's quite a mystery that fans can't see the reality. It doesn't matter who we sign. It won't make the slightest difference. This isn't my opinion. These are the facts based on the record.

Take the chequebook away from him. Take the pain. See the old fucker's contract out. And it will be very much up to the fans to make it patently fucking clear another contract will not be tolerated under any circumstance. Only trouble is, we have a lot of very, very stupid fans.

Power n Glory
21-01-2018, 09:17 PM
Aubemayang isn't pissing it away though. If anything it's strengthening the squad for the next guy.

My gripe is it probably shows Wenger isn't going anywhere anytime soon. You don't bring in the likes of Aubergine to walk away :(

I'd be uncomfortable seeing us spend £100m on a player under current circumstances. We don't really have a plan in place. We never use Giroud as our Plan B because we never start whipping in crosses for him when out of answers.

Also, I'd rather not see Aubameyang or Lacazette playing on the wing. Seeing how Lacazette is playing at the moment, I'd actually bench him and have him come off the bench. My Plan B would be switching to a two striker system if chasing the game or he comes on to play off the shoulder if we're being forced to sit deep and need to play on the counter.

As for Wenger not walking away....it looks unlikely. But it this may just be Ivan putting the pieces in place for the next guy.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:17 PM
We are but I also don't want us to piss it away whilst Wenger is in charge.

Agreed.

You could put the goat in charge of the gypos now and, without a doubt, without even the slightest doubt, he wouldn't win the title.

Think about that. 12 points clear. Put Wenger in charge. Who here would bet on him winning it. Be honest.

And so, we can spend hundreds of millions on players until we have a squad like the gypo's - but it won't make any difference at all. None at all.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:20 PM
Or, put it another way.

Imagine we never signed Ozil and Alexis.

Imagine they were both 3 years younger.

Imagine we had finalised their signings today. Ozil and Alexis.

Do you see?

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:21 PM
We are 6th at the moment, btw.

And out of the CL.

Getting worse every season.

Do you see?

Marc Overmars
21-01-2018, 09:33 PM
Sanchez/Mkhi deal is done. Official announcement expected tomorrow.

Now for Aubameyang, which I’m sure will be a very smooth and quick transfer.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 09:37 PM
Sanchez/Mkhi deal is done. Official announcement expected tomorrow.

Now for Aubameyang, which I’m sure will be a very smooth and quick transfer.

All we need to do is work out the amount of minutes between now and the window closing, and if there are enough minutes left to increase the bid by a pound every minute - done deal! I just hope we don't offer the player a pay cut.

KSE Comedy Club
21-01-2018, 09:46 PM
All we need to do is work out the amount of minutes between now and the window closing, and if there are enough minutes left to increase the bid by a pound every minute - done deal! I just hope we don't offer the player a pay cut.

I think we’ve agreed personal terms with him and his agent.

That’s why we are trying to haggle the price down so we can afford to pay him what we’ve promised.

We are quite a poor club and can’t match the spending of the Manchester clubs you know.

Ivan has to sit under the ‘A’ in front of the stadium with his dog piss covered blanket and beg for spare cash as well.

It’s an awful but ideal situation.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 10:18 PM
It really, really isn't strengthening the squad. I mean Auba seems like he's a decent player. I don't see top tier as many do, but I do see a very effective striker. Even lethal.

IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE HIM.

We have Wenger.

If we agree to Dortmund's asking price, or if pigs fly over the moon wearing fancy dress, it'll just mean an awful lot of cash down the drain. I'd be excited if Wenger was leaving this summer. But the old cunt has a year to go after that, and that's more than enough time to destroy any player, including Auba.

10 years on, it's quite a mystery that fans can't see the reality. It doesn't matter who we sign. It won't make the slightest difference. This isn't my opinion. These are the facts based on the record.

Take the chequebook away from him. Take the pain. See the old fucker's contract out. And it will be very much up to the fans to make it patently fucking clear another contract will not be tolerated under any circumstance. Only trouble is, we have a lot of very, very stupid fans.


I'd be uncomfortable seeing us spend £100m on a player under current circumstances. We don't really have a plan in place. We never use Giroud as our Plan B because we never start whipping in crosses for him when out of answers.

Also, I'd rather not see Aubameyang or Lacazette playing on the wing. Seeing how Lacazette is playing at the moment, I'd actually bench him and have him come off the bench. My Plan B would be switching to a two striker system if chasing the game or he comes on to play off the shoulder if we're being forced to sit deep and need to play on the counter.

As for Wenger not walking away....it looks unlikely. But it this may just be Ivan putting the pieces in place for the next guy.

I stand by my original point, it's strengthening the squad, but I agree, it doesn't strengthen the team. The team (i.e. starting XI) will probably be worsened because Professor Nutty will play him at wing back and not employ the right tactics/formation.

As mentioned, my real gripe is:

A) there doesn't seem to be any real planning in this signing. How can you replace two wingers in Theo and Sanchez with a winger (Mikhi) and a striker (Aubergine)? What sort of planning goes into that? Because you can't play a complete striker like Aubergine on the wing and ask him to do the same job Sanchez done, which is run up and down a wing and track defenders when the opposition are attacking. Does that mean we'll see a formation change? And if we so, what does that mean for Kolasinac who was acquired specifically for the new formation and wing back role? We added him for big wages so will he be sold like Coquelin was, who was also given big wages a year prior to being flung out the door? Where's the planning in that?
B) this shows Wenger probably isn't leaving. You don't smash £60m on a striker only to walk away. And if the board for one moment thought Wenger was walking away, do you think they'd sanction this? Do you think they'd let a manager walking away in 6 months time/next year smack £60m on a player, especially when they say they have no money?

Power n Glory
21-01-2018, 10:35 PM
I stand by my original point, it's strengthening the squad, but I agree, it doesn't strengthen the team. The team (i.e. starting XI) will probably be worsened because Professor Nutty will play him at wing back and not employ the right tactics/formation.

As mentioned, my real gripe is:

A) there doesn't seem to be any real planning in this signing. How can you replace two wingers in Theo and Sanchez with a winger (Mikhi) and a striker (Aubergine)? What sort of planning goes into that? Because you can't play a complete striker like Aubergine on the wing and ask him to do the same job Sanchez done, which is run up and down a wing and track defenders when the opposition are attacking. Does that mean we'll see a formation change? And if we so, what does that mean for Kolasinac who was acquired specifically for the new formation and wing back role? We added him for big wages so will he be sold like Coquelin was, who was also given big wages a year prior to being flung out the door? Where's the planning in that?
B) this shows Wenger probably isn't leaving. You don't smash £60m on a striker only to walk away. And if the board for one moment thought Wenger was walking away, do you think they'd sanction this? Do you think they'd let a manager walking away in 6 months time/next year smack £60m on a player, especially when they say they have no money?

Going off Wenger's record, I don't trust him to change formation or even have a plan for these signings. Kolasanic wasn't even bought to play wingback. Remember he had him playing as CB when he first arrived.

Again, this might not be the board trusting Wenger. This might be the board trusting Sven. There are the guys he'd have brought in for Dortmund and it sounded as if Wenger was unsure of Aubmeyang until Sven spoke up. Hard to say whether or not it's the board backing Wenger.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 10:42 PM
Going off Wenger's record, I don't trust him to change formation or even have a plan for these signings. Kolasanic wasn't even bought to play wingback. Remember he had him playing as CB when he first arrived.

Again, this might not be the board trusting Wenger. This might be the board trusting Sven. There are the guys he'd have brought in for Dortmund and it sounded as if Wenger was unsure of Aubmeyang until Sven spoke up. Hard to say whether or not it's the board backing Wenger.

The board can trust Sven all they want. But the guy has no chance of success. No matter who he signs, it could be the next 11 Mbappes, it still falls to Wenker to pick the team, formation and "tactics". And that's where it will always go wrong.

If the chef picks the finest ingredients and then you get a mental ward patient to make the cake, you have a shitheap made from fine ingredients. A shitheap is a shitheap nonetheless. Look at all the players this fool has seen come and go, without ever once being able to construct a real team.

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 10:45 PM
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article155639.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/fergie-next-to-her-wax-figure-after-it-was-unveiled-at-madame-tussauds-las-vegas-pic-getty-images-968630108.jpg

Cripps
21-01-2018, 10:51 PM
Arsene Wenger on Alexis Sanchez's transfer: 'I cannot understand anybody wanting to leave Arsenal' | @Matt_Law_DT https://t.co/YLt8SUvGYt

The old fart just doesn't get it does he? :lol:

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 10:52 PM
Arsene Wenger on Alexis Sanchez's transfer: 'I cannot understand anybody wanting to leave Arsenal' | @Matt_Law_DT https://t.co/YLt8SUvGYt

The old fart just doesn't get it does he? :lol:

He needs to stop sleeping under their beds and touching them during the night.

Cripps
21-01-2018, 11:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUGD485WkAIvUXW.jpg

Niall_Quinn
21-01-2018, 11:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUGD485WkAIvUXW.jpg

#trueNews

Marc Overmars
22-01-2018, 06:49 AM
Arsene Wenger on Alexis Sanchez's transfer: 'I cannot understand anybody wanting to leave Arsenal' | @Matt_Law_DT https://t.co/YLt8SUvGYt

The old fart just doesn't get it does he? :lol:

Lives in cuckoo land.

You’d think after the umpteenth player to leave us in their prime the penny might have dropped.

Globalgunner
22-01-2018, 06:56 AM
If Utd win the title next season, that will be another title medal Wenger can claim, along the one he won with RVP at United. Who knows, we may throw Ozil in for free come May.

Penguin
22-01-2018, 08:33 AM
I don't get why it hinges on Giroud. We're pissing in money. Those c*nts are outright stealing it.

Dortmund might want to bring a striker in before they let Aubameyang go. Now why they would want Giroud is beyond me, but if they do it would be stupid not to accept.

KSE Comedy Club
22-01-2018, 10:13 AM
There is a rumour (from a spurs fan mind you) that RM will offer £200m for Harry Kane

GP
22-01-2018, 10:32 AM
£100m for the player, £100m for the speech therapy.

Cripps
22-01-2018, 10:56 AM
I hope so and I hope he pisses off.

KSE Comedy Club
22-01-2018, 11:07 AM
It'll be the summer at the earliest I guess.

oh yes:

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/real-madrid-preparing-world-record-bid-for-harry-kane-158525

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tottenham-hotspur-fight-real-madrid-over-world-record-200m-bid-for-harry-kane-8hkl8f8lv

GP
22-01-2018, 11:18 AM
There have been talks of Madrid ditching Ronaldo so if he goes they would look to bring in a marquee name.

Hope he goes there and flops.

Letters
22-01-2018, 11:26 AM
If they don't win anything again :pray: and they don't finish in the top 4 :pray: then his head may be turned.
In brief: Come on Liverpool!

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-01-2018, 11:36 AM
Harry Kane is a spiv, you can only turn his head with brylcream

Marc Overmars
22-01-2018, 11:48 AM
Sick of the sight of Kane carrying Spurs. Hopefully Real Madrid unsettle him.

Amazing to think he’s not even close to being one of the top earners in the league considering he’s delivered more than anyone over the last few years.

Cripps
22-01-2018, 12:13 PM
If they don't win anything again :pray: and they don't finish in the top 4 :pray: then his head may be turned.
In brief: Come on Liverpool!

:faint:

Cripps
22-01-2018, 12:21 PM
Sick of the sight of Kane carrying Spurs. Hopefully Real Madrid unsettle him.

Amazing to think he’s not even close to being one of the top earners in the league considering he’s delivered more than anyone over the last few years.

The weird thing is he doesn't even excel at any one attribute, you don't look at him and think 'he's an expert in this' or 'wow he does that in an extraordinary way'. He just knows where to be and has the knack to score and is an all round good player. A bit like Shearer.

GP
22-01-2018, 12:33 PM
Clearly all of his brain power goes into that as well.

I doubt he could dress himself or brush his own teeth.

Globalgunner
22-01-2018, 12:36 PM
No doubting his quality. Left foot, right foot, head. He does it all, in the box long range. Very much like Shearer. and we let him go.:angry:

Anyhow, had he stayed with us I doubt he would have progressed half as much. Old Wengerpoo would have told him. "I see you as a box to box midfielder" and we would have sold him to Newcastle by now.

Hope Real pony up the cash. It will be interesting to see how he goes with England at the world cup, especially now as the English press have him down as the next coming of Pele merged with Beckanbauer.

The other thing that could make the sale a reality is the Spuds stadium costs have ballooned to close to 1 Billion, I hear. They need the cash. Their academy is no doubt miles better than ours so they will find another Harry in a short while, no doubt.

Cripps
22-01-2018, 12:56 PM
Lassana Diarra is having a medical at PSG apparently :lol:

Globalgunner
22-01-2018, 01:15 PM
Lassana Diarra is having a medical at PSG apparently :lol:

WTF.....do they have a problem with their French quota?

selassie
22-01-2018, 01:41 PM
WTF.....do they have a problem with their French quota?

Most likely and they are bringing him in as cover. Despite that he had a great season a couple of years ago for Marseille and got back in the French Squad so he may have a season or two left in him at a high level.

KSE Comedy Club
22-01-2018, 01:55 PM
Fucking hell.

This swap deal is dragging on a bit now. It seems to be taking just as long as a normal transfer

Globalgunner
22-01-2018, 03:04 PM
Fucking hell.

This swap deal is dragging on a bit now. It seems to be taking just as long as a normal transfer

Little bit haggling. taking care of the pennies.

Dein-machine
22-01-2018, 03:14 PM
Is Mickhi our 1st ever Armenian?

Cripps
22-01-2018, 03:28 PM
BREAKING: Bordeaux manager Gus Poyet rules out Malcom leaving club in January. #SSN https://t.co/8QGetT1GRS

Spurs :pal:

AFC Leveller
22-01-2018, 03:31 PM
If we get Aubameyang (as well as Mkhi) then we might as well get Reus. whats the point in getting only 2 of the trio?

KSE Comedy Club
22-01-2018, 03:45 PM
If we get Aubameyang (as well as Mkhi) then we might as well get Reus. whats the point in getting only 2 of the trio?

I was thinking that today too

Cripps
22-01-2018, 04:00 PM
If we get Aubameyang (as well as Mkhi) then we might as well get Reus. whats the point in getting only 2 of the trio?

Sure. Let's get Kagawa as well if we're on a roll. Anything else?

Globalgunner
22-01-2018, 04:08 PM
Sure. Let's get Kagawa as well if we're on a roll. Anything else?

Lets go on a Bender too

Cripps
22-01-2018, 04:19 PM
Alexis Sanchez denies he offered student £1,000 for sex after seeing her in bar
https://t.co/dCRrFKHFcG https://t.co/Q8x0tueZpz

Alexis :lol: :bow:

KSE Comedy Club
22-01-2018, 04:22 PM
Alexis Sanchez denies he offered student £1,000 for sex after seeing her in bar
https://t.co/dCRrFKHFcG https://t.co/Q8x0tueZpz

Alexis :lol: :bow:

Urgh, what an unsavory character he is, thank god he plays for that scummy Manchester club and not us - we would never hear the end of it!

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-01-2018, 04:33 PM
Alexis Sanchez denies he offered student £1,000 for sex after seeing her in bar
https://t.co/dCRrFKHFcG https://t.co/Q8x0tueZpz

Alexis :lol: :bow:

1,000?

Cheap git

Letters
22-01-2018, 04:40 PM
1,000?

Cheap git

She's fine, but £1,000? As over-priced as an Arsenal season ticket <_<

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-01-2018, 04:42 PM
She's fine, but £1,000? As over-priced as an Arsenal season ticket <_<

The value of a commodity is based on what people are willing to pay for it

GP
22-01-2018, 04:44 PM
Alexis: Would you shag me for a million quid?
Slag: Yes!
Alexis: Would you shag me for a thousand quid?
Slag: What sort of girl do you think I am?
Alexis: We've already established what sort of girl you are, now we're just haggling.

Globalgunner
22-01-2018, 04:55 PM
Much too much. Has he not learnt anything from 3 1/2 years with Wenger.?

Start at £50 and add £1 increments until she gets tired of haggling and accepts to do it for free.

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 05:47 PM
Alexis Sanchez denies he offered student £1,000 for sex after seeing her in bar
https://t.co/dCRrFKHFcG https://t.co/Q8x0tueZpz

Alexis :lol: :bow:

I didn't know he was running against a Democrat.

Cripps
22-01-2018, 06:04 PM
CONFRIMED: Manchester United announce signing of Alexis Sanchez. #MUFC #SSN https://t.co/4OOoArDY8S

McNamara That Ghost...
22-01-2018, 06:07 PM
https://www.arsenal.com/news/henrikh-mkhitaryan-signs-alexis-leaves-club

Sanchez. :haha:

His lofted balls won't be missed.

Marc Overmars
22-01-2018, 06:15 PM
CONFRIMED: Manchester United announce signing of Alexis Sanchez. #MUFC #SSN https://t.co/4OOoArDY8S

:sick: but also :(

Most exciting player we’ve had since Henry. Will miss him I must admit.

Oh well, life goes on I guess.

Gooner23
22-01-2018, 06:19 PM
I started boycotting the Emirates the season we signed Sanchez. Will only go again when Wenger leaves, so a bit gutted I never got to see him live.

He had his faults but as MO says, by far our most exciting player since Henry.

Özim
22-01-2018, 06:38 PM
So Sanchez is gone, no real surprise, Man U get a world class player who can score a lot of goals, real coup for them and will take them up a level as they now have a real matchwinning up front.

Meanwhile we get Mkhitaryan a guy who flopped at Man U

Yay

Wenger said:


Henrikh is a very complete player. He creates chances, he defends well, he can absorb distances and he's very committed as well. I must say he's a player who has all the attributes.

He can't defend I don't think (but then Wenger doesn't have a clue about defending so it makes sense he thinks he can defend). Apparently very commited as well, may be so but he's not a player who has any stomach for a fight when the chips are down.

Not too sure what to make of this guy, we'll have to wait and see what he offers, but having seen him at Man U, underwhelmed to say the least.

Marc Overmars
22-01-2018, 06:45 PM
Sounds like Dortmund want Giroud but separate to the Auba deal.

£55m is the price, hurry up and pay it. Can’t believe we’ve already low balled them.

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 06:50 PM
So Sanchez is gone, no real surprise, Man U get a world class player who can score a lot of goals, real coup for them and will take them up a level as they now have a real matchwinning up front.

Meanwhile we get Mkhitaryan a guy who flopped at Man U

Yay

Wenger said:



He can't defend I don't think (but then Wenger doesn't have a clue about defending so it makes sense he thinks he can defend). Apparently very commited as well, may be so but he's not a player who has any stomach for a fight when the chips are down.

Not too sure what to make of this guy, we'll have to wait and see what he offers, but having seen him at Man U, underwhelmed to say the least.

Don't know who he's been watching but Mkhitaryan can't defend to save his life, he doesn't even pretend to defend. Which is why Wenger thinks he's a great defender I suppose. People will be surprised at how ordinary this player is. Or maybe they won't now Wenger has said he likes him. If he's so fucking good how come we weren't in the bidding when he went to Utd for 28 mill? Liar Wenger. Liar, liar, liar. PR scumbag. You just cost the club 80 mill, fucker. That's the real story here.

I'll give Mkhitaryan a chance and I expect him to be a pleasant surprise because my expectations are absolute rock bottom. It would be funny if he turns out to be effective, just to piss Wenger off.

When is the cunt leaving? FFS.

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 06:52 PM
Sounds like Dortmund want Giroud but separate to the Auba deal.

£55m is the price, hurry up and pay it. Can’t believe we’ve already low balled them.

Drag this out? Frantic bid in the last minute of the window? 90 mill? Might work.

Letters
22-01-2018, 06:53 PM
Sounds like a fair swap.
Mkhitaryan :bow:

Marc Overmars
22-01-2018, 06:57 PM
Sounds like a fair swap.
Mkhitaryan :bow:

Yes, about as fair as swapping a shiny Charizard for Pidgeotto.

Özim
22-01-2018, 06:59 PM
Don't know who he's been watching but Mkhitaryan can't defend to save his life, he doesn't even pretend to defend. Which is why Wenger thinks he's a great defender I suppose. People will be surprised at how ordinary this player is. Or maybe they won't now Wenger has said he likes him. If he's so fucking good how come we weren't in the bidding when he went to Utd for 28 mill? Liar Wenger. Liar, liar, liar. PR scumbag. You just cost the club 80 mill, fucker. That's the real story here.

I'll give Mkhitaryan a chance and I expect him to be a pleasant surprise because my expectations are absolute rock bottom. It would be funny if he turns out to be effective, just to piss Wenger off.

When is the cunt leaving? FFS.

No that's what I thought, but then Wenger thinks defence is conceding 2-3 goals a game so no wonder he thinks he can defend. You're right of course Man U got him for 26 million, no sign of us when they signed him, of course we'll take him now because that's what we usually do with Man U rejects noone else wants, take them of their hands and do them a favour.

Reminds me of the Gallas/Cole swap.

Özim
22-01-2018, 07:04 PM
Sounds like Dortmund want Giroud but separate to the Auba deal.

£55m is the price, hurry up and pay it. Can’t believe we’ve already low balled them.

It's what we do best, rather than stump up like most other clubs. We also wait ages between bids, if you offer 45 million and someone says no then it doesn't take a week to go back in with a higher bid, you know how much you're willing to spend at the end of the day.

Think we think we're being clever, laughable really :lol:

Letters
22-01-2018, 07:05 PM
Yes, about as fair as swapping a shiny Charizard for Pidgeotto.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about but am glad you agree.

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 07:05 PM
It's what we do best, rather than stump up like most other clubs. We also wait ages between bids, if you offer 45 million and someone says no then it doesn't take a week to go back in with a higher bid, you know how much you're willing to spend at the end of the day.

Think we think we're being clever, laughable really :lol:

Wenger's really good at hiding the fax machine and chequebook. Sometimes it takes years to find them.

Özim
22-01-2018, 07:12 PM
Some more of Wengers laughable claims:


“I cannot understand anybody wanting to leave Arsenal,” said Wenger. “But in 30 years of doing transfers, you learn a lot about human beings. As a professional, it was perhaps his last contract at the top level and an important contract.

“We did what we tried to do and went as far as we could (with money). Even Manchester City moved out of it in the end. That tells you we had no chance to give him a contract.”


Asked if the uncertainty over Sanchez had destabilised some of his players, Wenger replied: “yes.”

He added: “There are periods when the atmosphere is less enjoyable than others. It is the lack of clarity. It is not losing players – teams are used to losing players. But it is the fact that you have uncertainty in the group – that they don’t know if he will be here or not. Once it is clear, the team gets used to it.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/21/arsene-wenger-alexis-sanchezs-transfer-cannot-understand-anybody/

He literally couldn't wait to have a dig at Sanchez, fact it Wenger messed it up big time, who wants to play with a club with no ambition. If we do sign Aubameyang there's just one reason, it's because his precious top 4 is at stake, Auba can't play in the Europa league so he's clearly not bothered about that, plus we know that's the only time Wenger signs anyone, for top 4, embarrassing.

Just look at how he's trying to shift the blame for the dropped points of Sanchez, it's never the guys fault literally.

Gooner23
22-01-2018, 07:16 PM
We have to get Auba now. It's the only thing that will make losing Sanchez more palatable. Mhiki alone just doesn't cut it.

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 07:17 PM
Some more of Wengers laughable claims:





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/21/arsene-wenger-alexis-sanchezs-transfer-cannot-understand-anybody/

He literally couldn't wait to have a dig at Sanchez, fact it Wenger messed it up big time, who wants to play with a club with no ambition. If we do sign Aubameyang there's just one reason, it's because his precious top 4 is at stake, Auba can't play in the Europa league so he's clearly not bothered about that, plus we know that's the only time Wenger signs anyone, for top 4, embarrassing.

Just look at how he's trying to shift the blame for the dropped points of Sanchez, it's never the guys fault literally.

Only Ty types believe a word that cunt says any more.

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 07:17 PM
We have to get Auba now. It's the only thing that will make losing Sanchez more palatable. Mhiki alone just doesn't cut it.

You know how it goes. Plenty of lowball bids to go in yet.

Gooner23
22-01-2018, 07:19 PM
Some more of Wengers laughable claims:





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/21/arsene-wenger-alexis-sanchezs-transfer-cannot-understand-anybody/

He literally couldn't wait to have a dig at Sanchez, fact it Wenger messed it up big time, who wants to play with a club with no ambition. If we do sign Aubameyang there's just one reason, it's because his precious top 4 is at stake, Auba can't play in the Europa league so he's clearly not bothered about that, plus we know that's the only time Wenger signs anyone, for top 4, embarrassing.

Just look at how he's trying to shift the blame for the dropped points of Sanchez, it's never the guys fault literally.

The double standards of this asshole is quite something. He literally did exactly the same thing with his own contract last year. I cannot wait until the day he fucks off.

Özim
22-01-2018, 07:23 PM
The double standards of this asshole is quite something. He literally did exactly the same thing with his own contract last year. I cannot wait until the day he fucks off.

Totally agree, Sanchez did nothing wrong, he just didn't want to play for a coach with no ambition where thrashing are a regular occurence. As you say it's double standards this guy is something else.

Özim
22-01-2018, 07:23 PM
Only Ty types believe a word that cunt says any more.

I'm amazed people don't call his out more for his BS.

Marc Overmars
22-01-2018, 07:24 PM
The double standards of this asshole is quite something. He literally did exactly the same thing with his own contract last year. I cannot wait until the day he fucks off.

Left the club in limbo last season and claimed it didn't have an impact on the squad, only to then admit it did when he had the safety of his new deal. Can't take anything he says seriously anymore, a real con artist of a manager these days.

Özim
22-01-2018, 07:30 PM
We lose our best player and somehow Wengers takes the edge off it by signing a Man U flop and claiming it's a good deal.

Frankly fans should be up in arms, the level of stupidity to have got ourselves in this situation is quite amazing, thing is by running down his contract he's basically been able to make people accept that we were losing him and that signing someone in return who hasn't turned up for 2 years is a good deal, we should never have been in this situation, we should be in a scenario where we have 80-90 million in our hands to spend on a replacement.

No excuse for this mess and this Man U reject changes nothing, why he didn't sell him last summer is beyond me, at least we would have had 60 million to play with and would have been able to bring a top class player in return (well, a normal manager with even moderate managerial ability would)

Xhaka Can’t
22-01-2018, 08:13 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180122/0b62c49c81ad6f3805424520b0c6f555.jpg

Ernesto
22-01-2018, 08:37 PM
We lose our best player and somehow Wengers takes the edge off it by signing a Man U flop and claiming it's a good deal.

Frankly fans should be up in arms, the level of stupidity to have got ourselves in this situation is quite amazing, thing is by running down his contract he's basically been able to make people accept that we were losing him and that signing someone in return who hasn't turned up for 2 years is a good deal, we should never have been in this situation, we should be in a scenario where we have 80-90 million in our hands to spend on a replacement.

No excuse for this mess and this Man U reject changes nothing, why he didn't sell him last summer is beyond me, at least we would have had 60 million to play with and would have been able to bring a top class player in return (well, a normal manager with even moderate managerial ability would)

I like how you think that the 60mil would have been used to buy a player. More likely it would have paid Wengers wages for the next 7 years.

So far we've gained about 71mil from selling Cockslade-Chamberlain, wallcock and cockuelin. Could have bid for 2 players, better than all three of those, from those proceeds.

Penguin
22-01-2018, 08:53 PM
Yes, about as fair as swapping a shiny Charizard for Pidgeotto.

:lol:

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 09:00 PM
Ox - 40 mill
Theo - 20 mill
Coq - 12 mill
Alexis - 20 mill
IN - 92 mill

Greek kid - 2 mill
Miki - 20 mill
IN - 22 mill

PROFIT = 70 mill so far.

Dortmund want 55 mill for Auba
We bid 45 mill

Why is that, I wonder? Because at 45 mill our transfer profit is 25 mill, just shy of the earnings we could have expected from another CL humiliation. Add in the few quid we earn from the Europa and I guess we have covered the loss of the CL for the year.

So every extra million we have to bid on Auba is cutting into their divine profits and will have an effect on the bottom line. We'll also need to pay Ozil to stay, so that cuts into things even more. An extra chunk will have to go out for Miki's and, possibly, Auba's wages. But Alexis', Theo's and Coq's wages are off the books so this must be close to break-even considering how much we wasted on Theo. They have clawed more of it back from Jack with his pay cut (LOL). And I hear they have cut back in the canteen (I'm not even joking).

2 billionaires, not a penny invested. A quarter of a billion in the bank for unspecified "stuff". That bank balance is always climbing. Highest ticket prices in the world, milking the fans for twice as much as the average gypo pays.

This is a profile of a miser club.

We could easily up that bid for Auba and still be swimming in cash even if we end up posting a loss for the year. But I suspect there's a lot more riding on the balance sheet than football activities.

Niall_Quinn
22-01-2018, 09:01 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180122/0b62c49c81ad6f3805424520b0c6f555.jpg

Arsenal better not try to bill me for watching that for the last 20 minutes.

Penguin
22-01-2018, 09:05 PM
So Sanchez is gone, no real surprise, Man U get a world class player who can score a lot of goals, real coup for them and will take them up a level as they now have a real matchwinning up front.

Meanwhile we get Mkhitaryan a guy who flopped at Man U

Yay

Wenger said:
"Henrikh is a very complete player. He creates chances, he defends well, he can absorb distances and he's very committed as well. I must say he's a player who has all the attributes. "


He can't defend I don't think (but then Wenger doesn't have a clue about defending so it makes sense he thinks he can defend). Apparently very commited as well, may be so but he's not a player who has any stomach for a fight when the chips are down.

Not too sure what to make of this guy, we'll have to wait and see what he offers, but having seen him at Man U, underwhelmed to say the least.

So when Wenger's thinking of his best attributes all he can think of is that he's committed and he can 'absorb distances'. Absorbing distances... :haha:

Keith
22-01-2018, 09:43 PM
Sanchez - signs a 4 1/2 year contract?

Hopefully he keeps the levels up or those final two years could be painful for them.

Gooner23
22-01-2018, 09:51 PM
Hopefully he doesn't then!

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
22-01-2018, 11:00 PM
Lol!

The whole things stinks to me......didn't even get extra cash with the deal in the end! If we don't get Aubameyang It will be an even bigger car crash.

I think had we sold Sanchez in the summer and signed Salah I'd have been gutted though.....so here's to hoping Mkhitarayan is the shit.

GP
22-01-2018, 11:02 PM
Lets not forget that Micki tore up the Bundesliga.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to his year at Man U. Mourinho didn't even think Salah and de Bruyne were good enough.

Marc Overmars
22-01-2018, 11:06 PM
As long as Aubameyang comes in, then I think it’s fair to say we would have produced a good statement of intent. Signing him changes the complexion of Alexis’ departure completely.

As it stands though, we’ve been done with the swap. Even with all the will in the world I don’t think Mkhi will prove to be half as good as Alexis.

KSE Comedy Club
22-01-2018, 11:06 PM
Jose sucks cock now, his teams are pretty shit since he was sacked at the chavs.

He’s got some decent players and they have been keeping him afloat rather than the other way around imo.

miki will be fine here I reckon, but of course they is no comparison between the two - they are completely different players.

It’s only the media that have decided he is sanchez’s replacement.

The Emirates Gallactico
23-01-2018, 12:46 AM
I'm probably in the minority here but considering the bad circumstances I actually think the club, and presumably Gazidis & Sven, have done well.

We've managed to get a £50 million player in today's market (Utd got him on the cheap cos he pulled an Alexis on Dortmund) for a player that was going to leave on a free in less than six months.

Obviously the larger point is that it should really never have got to this situation in the first place, with us preferably either getting rid of Alexis last summer or the one before when he refused to commit or better still, getting shot of Wenger and hiring a competent, ambitious manager in to make players like Alexis want to commit in the first place but compartmentalising this deal from all that ....... it's actually a good piece of business.

This is Sven's first real work for the club and seemingly part of the new "less Wenger influenced" management system set up by Gazidis and if this is a harbinger of things to come then I'm actually quite optimistic for the future.

KSE Comedy Club
23-01-2018, 07:49 AM
I'm probably in the minority here but considering the bad circumstances I actually think the club, and presumably Gazidis & Sven, have done well.

We've managed to get a £50 million player in today's market (Utd got him on the cheap cos he pulled an Alexis on Dortmund) for a player that was going to leave on a free in less than six months.

Obviously the larger point is that it should really never have got to this situation in the first place, with us preferably either getting rid of Alexis last summer or the one before when he refused to commit or better still, getting shot of Wenger and hiring a competent, ambitious manager in to make players like Alexis want to commit in the first place but compartmentalising this deal from all that ....... it's actually a good piece of business.

This is Sven's first real work for the club and seemingly part of the new "less Wenger influenced" management system set up by Gazidis and if this is a harbinger of things to come then I'm actually quite optimistic for the future.
I happen to agree with you there.

Also:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5401988/arsenal-news-henrikh-mkhitaryan-reveals-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-in-video-yo-pierre/

I'm not personally understanding how they have deciphered him saying "yo Pierre, do you want to come here?" as 'the Aubameyang transfer is done and dusted and will be announced shortly' but still.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
23-01-2018, 09:16 AM
I prefer to see Mkhitaryan as Walcott's replacement and Aubameyang as Sanchez. That's the only way the situation is acceptable......if we sign Aubameyang.

GP
23-01-2018, 09:44 AM
I'm probably in the minority here but considering the bad circumstances I actually think the club, and presumably Gazidis & Sven, have done well.

We've managed to get a £50 million player in today's market (Utd got him on the cheap cos he pulled an Alexis on Dortmund) for a player that was going to leave on a free in less than six months.

Obviously the larger point is that it should really never have got to this situation in the first place, with us preferably either getting rid of Alexis last summer or the one before when he refused to commit or better still, getting shot of Wenger and hiring a competent, ambitious manager in to make players like Alexis want to commit in the first place but compartmentalising this deal from all that ....... it's actually a good piece of business.

This is Sven's first real work for the club and seemingly part of the new "less Wenger influenced" management system set up by Gazidis and if this is a harbinger of things to come then I'm actually quite optimistic for the future.

It's been suggested that Alexis agreed a new deal and promised to sign only to change his mind later on.

I guess half a million a week will turn heads.

Gooner23
23-01-2018, 09:47 AM
I prefer to see Mkhitaryan as Walcott's replacement and Aubameyang as Sanchez. That's the only way the situation is acceptable......if we sign Aubameyang.

Agreed.

If we switched to a back 4, could you accomodate Auba, Laca and Mhiki in a front three with Ozil behind?

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 09:52 AM
It's been suggested that Alexis agreed a new deal and promised to sign only to change his mind later on.

I guess half a million a week will turn heads.

So Arsenal trolled the gypos in the summer and Alexis did them in January? Excellent.

Pep should try sticking his chequebook in the false prophet role, in the hole Alexis left.

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 09:58 AM
It's starting to sound like Alexis never played for us. So perhaps allegedly losing him is a storm in a teacup. I checked the newspapers and Fergie almost signed him, mainly because Alexis used to dress up in Utd tracksuits. And Alexis always wanted to play for them since he was a newborn. So it just doesn't make any sense he'd have signed for us. Far more likely is he's always been a Utd player. Maybe the truth will never come out.

GP
23-01-2018, 09:59 AM
Who?

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 10:00 AM
Manchester City star Kevin De Bruyne is 'excited about the future' as he signs a new contract until 2023

Hardly ideal. Though I think Wenger will ultimately be proved right about all the top clubs letting their players leave on frees.

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 10:00 AM
Who?

Heavy morning of drinking for me. I'm delusional already.

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 01:06 PM
Wenger discussing the hard choices involved and intricacies of taking a shit.


'You never know how close you are,' Wenger said. 'It is one of the possible movements, but we have other things in mind, we have plenty of opportunities in different positions. So the final decision is not made.'

KSE Comedy Club
23-01-2018, 01:17 PM
:haha::haha:

dostoy
23-01-2018, 01:30 PM
He is counting down the days until February the 1st.

It is one of his 2 favourite days of the year.

Stupid man.

Özim
23-01-2018, 02:28 PM
Bundesligue is a mickey mouse league to be honest, so what Mhkitaryan did there isn't that relevant, even Xhaka who is rubbish starred there. There's about 2 decent teams in that league.

As for Sanchez, even if he had verbally agreed to sign (no proof), he'll probably then took a longer look at this car crash club with bottlers for players and a manager who thinks winning is getting top 4 and thought he wasn't realistically going to challenge for prizes there, so then thought moving to a bigger club who at least try to win might be a better idea.

He got more money, but he was always going to seeing as he's a top class player. A much as it pains me to say, Man U are 100 times the club Arsenal is, they strive to win stuff, spend money on signings and have won a stackful of trophies (including the CL twice), most importantly they don't mug off their fans.

Good move for Sanchez, I wish him good luck, he gave his all when he was with us, he just didn't want to waste the rest of his career playing for a team that are 2nd tier when he could be playing for a top club.

Özim
23-01-2018, 02:31 PM
As long as Aubameyang comes in, then I think it’s fair to say we would have produced a good statement of intent. Signing him changes the complexion of Alexis’ departure completely.

As it stands though, we’ve been done with the swap. Even with all the will in the world I don’t think Mkhi will prove to be half as good as Alexis.

Pretty much, if we got Aubameyang you've got to be reasonably happy.

The swap however, well we're the losers here, our best player and goalscorer gone, a player they wanted rid of who hasn't turned up for a year and a half and who doesn't even play in a position we needed.

fakeyank
23-01-2018, 02:36 PM
Can someone tell me what position Micky Mouse plays in? I think he is an Ozil type player and he will only make our games even more narrower (if thats even possible). We have no players who can play wide! Iwobi is a wide player but he isnt the best, Welbeck is horrendous and thats about it... nobody else!

Marc Overmars
23-01-2018, 02:42 PM
I think his best position is a second striker type role, I think he’s more likely to gamble going forward than Ozil. By all accounts he’s fairly versatile though so Wenker will probably play him anywhere across the front.

Bit like Arshavin before he turned into a fat cunt.

LDG
23-01-2018, 02:50 PM
As with all players. Unless the manager balances the side, and applies the basics of the game, it doesn't matter who you buy....unless you buy 11 players who can all work it out for themselves, and have the necessary skills to play in those positions.

We better be buying that Auba bloke though, as you want the next manager to be in a position of having some decent players. Of course hoping that we do have a new manager at some point soon.

:ilt:

Özim
23-01-2018, 03:00 PM
Problem I see with Aubameyang and a new manager is that he's 28 and relies a lot on his pace, something which you lose some of into your 30s, so realistically he won't be a signing for the next manager as he'll be at least 30 when he comes in.

GP
23-01-2018, 03:04 PM
he turned into a fat cunt.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/06/19/4216F5FD00000578-4672574-Fans_claimed_Henrikh_Mkhitaryan_appeared_on_the_la rger_side_as_h-a-11_1499365550659.jpg

Globalgunner
23-01-2018, 03:19 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/06/19/4216F5FD00000578-4672574-Fans_claimed_Henrikh_Mkhitaryan_appeared_on_the_la rger_side_as_h-a-11_1499365550659.jpg

In fairness to Mikhi. Rooney was still MU captain that time. He was always at least 10kg overweight.

Özim
23-01-2018, 03:31 PM
Welbecks contract is starting to run down but Wenger has said he's not for sale and he wants to keep him. Should have never even signed this guy in the 1st place, he was useless then and is useless now.

KSE Comedy Club
23-01-2018, 03:49 PM
Aubameyang has been pictured packing boxes into his car from the training ground.

Twitter thinks he's packing to come here, journalist who took the pictures has reassured BVB fans that it's just products from his 'private' sponsors.

I do laugh how news stories are made out of the tiniest thing :lol:

Özim
23-01-2018, 04:31 PM
Aubameyang has been pictured packing boxes into his car from the training ground.

Twitter thinks he's packing to come here, journalist who took the pictures has reassured BVB fans that it's just products from his 'private' sponsors.

I do laugh how news stories are made out of the tiniest thing :lol:

Arsenal fan desperate for any signing, they'll cling on to anythng however small.

We've been starved of transfers for so long that any scrap of hope is clung onto like your life depends on it.

Quite sad really.

dostoy
23-01-2018, 04:42 PM
I can see this going into next week and maybe even the last day which is 8 days away.

Wenger's going to literally cry handing over that kind of money.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
23-01-2018, 04:49 PM
I was fearing the same.....

Or another club hijacking....

Cripps
23-01-2018, 05:29 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/06/19/4216F5FD00000578-4672574-Fans_claimed_Henrikh_Mkhitaryan_appeared_on_the_la rger_side_as_h-a-11_1499365550659.jpg

You call that fat? You should see Letters.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-01-2018, 06:31 PM
Bundesligue is a mickey mouse league to be honest, so what Mhkitaryan did there isn't that relevant, even Xhaka who is rubbish starred there. There's about 2 decent teams in that league.

As for Sanchez, even if he had verbally agreed to sign (no proof), he'll probably then took a longer look at this car crash club with bottlers for players and a manager who thinks winning is getting top 4 and thought he wasn't realistically going to challenge for prizes there, so then thought moving to a bigger club who at least try to win might be a better idea.

He got more money, but he was always going to seeing as he's a top class player. A much as it pains me to say, Man U are 100 times the club Arsenal is, they strive to win stuff, spend money on signings and have won a stackful of trophies (including the CL twice), most importantly they don't mug off their fans.

Good move for Sanchez, I wish him good luck, he gave his all when he was with us, he just didn't want to waste the rest of his career playing for a team that are 2nd tier when he could be playing for a top club.

You said nobody had heard of Xhaka before?

The Emirates Gallactico
23-01-2018, 06:41 PM
It's been suggested that Alexis agreed a new deal and promised to sign only to change his mind later on.

I guess half a million a week will turn heads.

If it's true it still doesn't excuse it though - the club should be wise & experienced to know that agents & players are often full of shit and they have to take tough & firm approach in negotiations, giving ultimatums and fixed dates to sort things out by and also being decisive in any actions to rebel players. We always seem to let the players/agent dictate terms instead of dictating the terms to them.

Frankly we've, or at least the previous management team of Wenger/Dick Law/etc, have come across as complete rank amateurs. It happens far too often for it not to be the case.

I'm hoping the new team of Sven/Sandro/Huss fare a lot better.

Özim
23-01-2018, 06:48 PM
You said nobody had heard of Xhaka before?

They hadn't, but apparently he was tearing it up in the Bundesligue and was one of the best players and made the team of the year (not my words I thought he was a nobody). Now this didn't amount to much to me, but on that basis we can rate this guy based on that either.

Ernesto
23-01-2018, 07:13 PM
What's the talk on Malcom? Seems to have gone all quiet on the Western front.

Marc Overmars
23-01-2018, 07:14 PM
What's the talk on Malcom? Seems to have gone all quiet on the Western front.

Not happening.

The Emirates Gallactico
23-01-2018, 08:51 PM
What's the talk on Malcom? Seems to have gone all quiet on the Western front.

We've moved on to Leon Bailey apparently.

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 09:01 PM
We've moved on to Leon Bailey apparently.

The guy who did that duet with Phil Collins?

Xhaka Can’t
23-01-2018, 09:02 PM
Arsenal fan desperate for any signing, they'll cling on to anythng however small.

We've been starved of transfers for so long that any scrap of hope is clung onto like your life depends on it.

Quite sad really.

We are the only fans in world football to create tenuous rumours over mundane actions.


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Xhaka Can’t
23-01-2018, 09:04 PM
The guy who did that duet with Phil Collins?

That was Philip Bailey


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LDG
23-01-2018, 09:06 PM
That was Philip Bailey


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The photographer?

Xhaka Can’t
23-01-2018, 09:08 PM
The photographer?

No, the Easy Lover


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Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 09:16 PM
No, the Easy Lover


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This guy?

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03078/easyrider_3078291b.jpg

Cripps
23-01-2018, 10:51 PM
Arsenal increase bid to £50.9m for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, with Olivier Giroud in line to move in opposite direction https://t.co/a11mqYJKRD https://t.co/AEs8ki1se5

Why not just offer £3m more and meet their valuation? Why piss around over £3m? :lol:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
23-01-2018, 11:13 PM
If the deal involves Giroud, isn't the value over 53 million anyway....

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 11:22 PM
Arsenal increase bid to £50.9m for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, with Olivier Giroud in line to move in opposite direction https://t.co/a11mqYJKRD https://t.co/AEs8ki1se5

Why not just offer £3m more and meet their valuation? Why piss around over £3m? :lol:

Well this COULD be Wenger fucking around with his usual shit.

Or this could be the new team actually putting together a serious offer. The fact we haven't seen anything new in the papers from Dortmund criticising us for being total arseholes suggest it might be the new guys.

Bet it's Wenger trying to push Bif the other way though. Claw back some of that precious money, my preshus. They stole it from us, sneaksy Dortmund. Thieves! We hates them!

Niall_Quinn
23-01-2018, 11:23 PM
If the deal involves Giroud, isn't the value over 53 million anyway....

Two separate deals, by the sound of it.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
23-01-2018, 11:28 PM
Well this COULD be Wenger fucking around with his usual shit.

Or this could be the new team actually putting together a serious offer. The fact we haven't seen anything new in the papers from Dortmund criticising us for being total arseholes suggest it might be the new guys.

Bet it's Wenger trying to push Bif the other way though. Claw back some of that precious money, my preshus. They stole it from us, sneaksy Dortmund. Thieves! We hates them!
:lol:

Cripps
23-01-2018, 11:59 PM
Wenger v spikey today on chance of 10th Wembley visit in 4yrs. "You celebrate some teams who've not been in a final for 25rs, yet kill us even though we have won the FA Cup 3 times in 4 years". Timeline exaggerated, but suspect general point is about Spurs/L'pool under Klopp/Poch

Wenger:bow:

Xhaka Can’t
24-01-2018, 07:21 AM
To be fair, other than the travesty of a third round this year, he has a cracking record when it comes to the FA Cup.

League Cup, not so much.

Remember when we thought all we had to do to push on to greatness was to beat Birmingham?

Got that wrong.

AFC Leveller
24-01-2018, 07:51 AM
Arsenal are closing in on the double signing of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Johnny Evans for a combined £75m.

Giroud will move to Dortmund on loan as part of the PEA deal.

KSE Comedy Club
24-01-2018, 07:54 AM
Lets hope it's all true

GP
24-01-2018, 09:17 AM
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lzDNM9inR2E/WfHC4MB6D1I/AAAAAAAADpc/yt0B-SFbhkQmC0UFvEzFXlA9pRnXB6yQgCLcBGAs/s1600/its-true-all-of-it.jpg

KSE Comedy Club
24-01-2018, 09:44 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/1w8jaw.jpg

Özim
24-01-2018, 11:37 AM
Johnny Evans :haha:

He's what 30 now, why would you waste money on this guy when you need a decent CB back you can build your defence round, makes zero sense, we need to find someone like Van Dijk who has a good few years ahead of him.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
24-01-2018, 12:01 PM
Why haven't City signed him? Hope they do so we can put an end to the Evans idea.

GP
24-01-2018, 12:03 PM
I don't mind Evans. Fergie rated him.

TBH we could do with some experience back there. I like Holding but he's not there yet.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
24-01-2018, 12:15 PM
I thought Evans was underrated and a decent player for years too.....

However with Per retiring, Koscielny looking like he is increasingly injury prone and Mustafi blowing hot and cold I think we need to sign a CB of real quality and gravitas.

I read that Neven Subotic is out of contract this summer (or soon?), though admittedly Dortmund will probably be sick of the sight of us by now.

I think we need to be lining somebody up like Seri or whoever of quality we can go for too, but I'd concede that is far more feasible in the summer if it's something we even looking at at all.

Marc Overmars
24-01-2018, 12:31 PM
Evans has always benefited from playing in the right system under coaches that value defensive tactics. He would be a disaster in our system and for what he'd cost and his age, that's definitely money that could be better spent.

Cripps
24-01-2018, 01:16 PM
Is it true we have a higher 8 year net spend than Real Madrid?

Letters :haha:

Niall_Quinn
24-01-2018, 01:22 PM
Evans needs to play as part of an organised unit. He's a solid, unremarkable journeyman type who will do a job if he's rehearsed through every step in a well drilled machine. Like a lot of "great" domestic defenders. He's going to be eaten alive if he has to play a Kos like role which relies on split second, panicked, last ditch recovery efforts. And if he's left in a Merts role, isolated at the back, up against two fast attackers, he's dead too. He'll be decent at set pieces, unless Wenger uses him as the out ball on the half way line, which he might.

Cripps
24-01-2018, 07:07 PM
Some quotes from Wenger today:

"The way football is going is not necessarily to buy players for a huge amount of money, but to have players who care about your club, and have a sense of belonging."

I dunno what planet he's living on but premier league spending is at an all time high, we've had a £200m transfer and City are spending their bollocks off and he thinks it isn't about spending:lol: also you'd think after 234 players have left Arsenal over the past decade he'd realise players don't care one bit about the club they play for and it's all about money and winning trophies:lol:

Also he reverted to his favourite line and spoke about being financially restricted because of the stadium and owing the bank money :lol: 10 years later and he's still spouting the same old shit :lol:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
24-01-2018, 07:10 PM
Second Aubameyang bid rejected.....

Niall_Quinn
24-01-2018, 08:07 PM
Second Aubameyang bid rejected.....

Third underbid on the way. Then a 90 mill bid on the last day of the window.

Chippy
24-01-2018, 09:15 PM
Third underbid on the way. Then a 90 mill bid on the last day of the window.
Why don't we just offer what they value him at FFS.
Every fucking year this shit happens.

Ralpheroo72
24-01-2018, 09:27 PM
Why don't we just offer what they value him at FFS.
Every fucking year this shit happens.

Problem is, if we bid what they are asking, we might have to sign the player.

Xhaka Can’t
24-01-2018, 09:29 PM
Problem is, if we bid what they are asking, we might have to sign the player.

Haha


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Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
24-01-2018, 10:23 PM
A team of 3 went out there not including the manager....so if the deal is yet to be done....we have to ask questions of the 3 out there too no?

Niall_Quinn
24-01-2018, 10:25 PM
A team of 3 went out there not including the manager....so if the deal is yet to be done....we have to ask questions of the 3 out there too no?

Depends if Wenger is backseat driving.

The Emirates Gallactico
24-01-2018, 10:28 PM
Aubameyang would have buried that Iwobi chance.

Niall_Quinn
24-01-2018, 10:30 PM
Aubameyang would have buried that Iwobi chance.

And when Wenger gets to coach him he'll be even...

Oh

:ilt:

KSE Comedy Club
24-01-2018, 10:31 PM
Wenger will have his valuation of the player.

Maybe Giroud isn’t part of the deal as £50m + Giroud should be more than enough.

Niall_Quinn
24-01-2018, 10:33 PM
Wenger will have his valuation of the player.

Maybe Giroud isn’t part of the deal as £50m + Giroud should be more than enough.

Bif going on a loan deal was last I heard.

Chippy
24-01-2018, 10:56 PM
Problem is, if we bid what they are asking, we might have to sign the player.

Good point :)

KSE Comedy Club
24-01-2018, 10:56 PM
Me too.

But how much more can they demand if we they have a player going the other way :shrug:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
24-01-2018, 11:10 PM
Giroud will be a loan only if it happens as they want the full funds and to avoid simply sending a load of money back the other way.

If it doesn't happen....I'll be questioning more than Wenger's hand in all of this.

Marc Overmars
25-01-2018, 08:59 AM
Sky say Dortmund are holding out for something in the region of 60m.

Özim
25-01-2018, 09:57 AM
We'll probably bid £43,640,001 just to drag this out!

Seriously though, they were never going to accept that amount, we pretty much know that, just bid the money we have it we need him and the sooner the better, in the end someone else could come in for him and take him.

Honestly we seem to be the only club that does this, all other clubs just make their bid, if it's turned down come back with something else and get the player, we drag every single signing of any note out for months sometimes, what is wrong with this club!

Özim
25-01-2018, 09:58 AM
Problem is, if we bid what they are asking, we might have to sign the player.

Yeah that's the worry, we seem to enjoy this making fans believe we tried thing without having to spend a penny, seems to keep many Arsenal fans happy!

No other club messes about like this.

Ralpheroo72
25-01-2018, 10:10 AM
We have a so called delegation there meeting with Dortmund, they say we want 60M, we say, OK here’s 43M? I mean, just save money on flights and accommodation if you are gonna just aimlessly low ball.

Niall_Quinn
25-01-2018, 10:11 AM
Sky say Dortmund are holding out for something in the region of 60m.

So a 55 mill bid will get him then. I don't know why we haven't done that yet. Can't think of a reason. Just pay the money and get the player in. Why drag this to the end of the window? Each day it drags on makes it less likely to happen. Or is that the idea?

Niall_Quinn
25-01-2018, 10:14 AM
We have a so called delegation there meeting with Dortmund, they say we want 60M, we say, OK here’s 43M? I mean, just save money on flights and accommodation if you are gonna just aimlessly low ball.

They went standby. Wenger insisted. And they are staying at Wenger's mum's house. She has instructions to report back if they spend more than a fiver a day on expenses.

Özim
25-01-2018, 10:19 AM
Unfortunately we've seen this kind of stuff so often we can never believe a deal is on the cards, usually we screw these up somehow. They know how much Dortmund want, they just don't want to pay it.

Cripps
25-01-2018, 10:27 AM
Hopefully it isn't another Suarez.

The player wants to leave.
The club want him to leave.

Just pay the bloody money.

Niall_Quinn
25-01-2018, 10:30 AM
Unfortunately we've seen this kind of stuff so often we can never believe a deal is on the cards, usually we screw these up somehow. They know how much Dortmund want, they just don't want to pay it.

Hard to know what difference they imagine 5 or 10 mill quid makes in an inflated market like this. We just got 20 mill quid for a player with 4 months left on his contract. And we're pissing around lowballing on the player supposed to be replacing him? A player that could make a 30 million quid difference if he shoots us into the CL placings. Not to mention those 71 - 166 quid shirt sales that will bite a chunk out of any excess we have to pay.

Plenty of history of us refusing to go the extra few million based on Wenger's retarded "value" judgements. Like the 7 mill quid we wouldn't pay to Mbappe's agent to get that player here for peanuts. How did that "prudence" work out for us?

No problem with restraint or reluctance when it comes to ticket prices, of course.

Özim
25-01-2018, 10:37 AM
Hard to know what difference they imagine 5 or 10 mill quid makes in an inflated market like this. We just got 20 mill quid for a player with 4 months left on his contract. And we're pissing around lowballing on the player supposed to be replacing him? A player that could make a 30 million quid difference if he shoots us into the CL placings. Not to mention those 71 - 166 quid shirt sales that will bite a chunk out of any excess we have to pay.

Plenty of history of us refusing to go the extra few million based on Wenger's retarded "value" judgements. Like the 7 mill quid we wouldn't pay to Mbappe's agent to get that player here for peanuts. How did that "prudence" work out for us?

No problem with restraint or reluctance when it comes to ticket prices, of course.

These days it's nothing, like you said look at what we got for Sanchez who was as good as worth nothing, we've already got more than this guys fee in transfer money alone yet we're hallging over a few million, pretty embarrassing really, if this was a one off then fine, trouble is this happens everytime and most of the time it ends in failure. If we signed Aubameyang and he won us a few matches and won us some points he'd pay back his fee alone, that's even ignoring the shirt sales and marketing money from this deal.

This club never sees the bigger picture though, it's full of small minded people who don't know what it is to be a big club, or indeed what it takes, they think top 4 every year makes you a big club, it doesn't it make you big losers. Just look at the revenue of the clubs that succeed and how it rises with their successes, not hard to see what winning means, more money in the bank, so it would be win win for all of them, there is of course a risk, but these guys are so attached to their money they don't want to risk any of it.

Honestly don't understand why this club is worth as much as it is, it's a club for losers and it's not great for brands to be associated with losers, they'll sell more if they are linked to success.

Cripps
25-01-2018, 10:51 AM
Hard to know what difference they imagine 5 or 10 mill quid makes in an inflated market like this. We just got 20 mill quid for a player with 4 months left on his contract. And we're pissing around lowballing on the player supposed to be replacing him? A player that could make a 30 million quid difference if he shoots us into the CL placings. Not to mention those 71 - 166 quid shirt sales that will bite a chunk out of any excess we have to pay.

Plenty of history of us refusing to go the extra few million based on Wenger's retarded "value" judgements. Like the 7 mill quid we wouldn't pay to Mbappe's agent to get that player here for peanuts. How did that "prudence" work out for us?

No problem with restraint or reluctance when it comes to ticket prices, of course.

With the TV money now they're swimming in money. You'd think they wouldn't care about a few extra million and prefer to get it over the line, get him in the team and help us get 3 points in our next game.

Cripps
25-01-2018, 11:05 AM
Apparently Aubergine is annoyed we're longing this out:lol:

Same old shit :lol:

Niall_Quinn
25-01-2018, 11:25 AM
Apparently Aubergine is annoyed we're longing this out:lol:

Same old shit :lol:

Better than him not being bothered, I suppose.

Ho many players that have been linked with us have spent days on the phone asking, "Anything yet, FFS!?"

KSE Comedy Club
25-01-2018, 01:43 PM
The Sun seem to think that Giroud's wife is holding up the deal as they try to convince her to move to germany :coffee:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5421918/arsenal-ace-olivier-girouds-wife-key-to-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-deal-but-she-does-not-want-to-leave-london/

:lol:

Bild also reporting that we are planning to tie the deal up soon so that he can make his debut against Swansea on Tuesday.

Marc Overmars
25-01-2018, 02:30 PM
The Sun seem to think that Giroud's wife is holding up the deal as they try to convince her to move to germany :coffee:

:lol:

Bild also reporting that we are planning to tie the deal up soon so that he can make his debut against Swansea on Tuesday.

Silly cow. It’s her husband who’s bringing in the millions, she shouldn’t even factor in the equation tbh.

KSE Comedy Club
25-01-2018, 03:10 PM
Silly cow. It’s her husband who’s bringing in the millions, she shouldn’t even factor in the equation tbh.

I know, that's what I thought.

He should give her a few slaps - is that sexist?

I might tweet Phil Neville or Stan Collymore for clarification

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
25-01-2018, 03:39 PM
She's not saying anything every other WAG doesn't. It's Giroud's job to find his testicles and get the hell on.

I don't expect Arsenal to begin with their top offer....but let's tie this up already.

AFC Leveller
25-01-2018, 03:42 PM
I read somwhere that hes in thei squad this weekend as talks have stalled. They want 60m, which in today's market isnt a lot. He is a guaranteed goal scorer and wants to come, why dont we stop fucking about and pay the fucking money.

KSE Comedy Club
25-01-2018, 04:26 PM
I think it's more that Dortmund are trying to use it as a ploy to hurry the deal up, i.e. 'we will play him this weekend if you don't get a bloody move on'

But, of course, you must remember, that you can't believe half the stuff that gets reported.

Cripps
25-01-2018, 04:38 PM
Giroud should bin her anyway. He can do much better. She's butterz.

Globalgunner
25-01-2018, 05:04 PM
Thats the problem with wives. If she were his girlfriend she would be prepared to follow him to Alaska or Timbuktu. Wives....:crying:

Özim
25-01-2018, 05:07 PM
I think it's more that Dortmund are trying to use it as a ploy to hurry the deal up, i.e. 'we will play him this weekend if you don't get a bloody move on'

Doesn't work with Arsenal, they want Dortmund to give them a reason not to have to buy him, this will be music to Arsene Wengers' ears.

Niall_Quinn
25-01-2018, 06:15 PM
Thats the problem with wives. If she were his girlfriend she would be prepared to follow him to Alaska or Timbuktu. Wives....:crying:

They can get half of everything (at least), plus any kids. And then you have to shell out more on a regular basis.

I suppose this is because women are discriminated against.

Marc Overmars
25-01-2018, 07:26 PM
Giroud isn’t interested in going to Dortmund, according to Sky that deal is dead.

If he’s ruined our chances of getting Aubameyang...

McNamara That Ghost...
25-01-2018, 07:35 PM
It shouldn't matter really. Aubemeyang wants to go, Bif doesn't.

Now let's reduce the 2nd offer even further and move on with our lives. :ninja:

selassie
25-01-2018, 07:39 PM
Giroud isn’t interested in going to Dortmund, according to Sky that deal is dead.

If he’s ruined our chances of getting Aubameyang...

I think we’ve ruined any chance of a deal ourselves by spending the best part of this week lowballing and haggling for Auba.

I really do not now what is wrong with us, we fucked up Higuain deal, then Suarez and now probably this deal for Auba. We are always trying to be smart and clever when we know a player wants the move but most of the time with us it backfires.

LDG
25-01-2018, 08:04 PM
Goes to show bringing in quality backroom staff means fuck all if Mr Control Freak can’t stop dithering and pretending he’s some kind of poker king.

Fergie once said something along the lines of, dealing with Wenger is like a game of chess. Well, I’m sure he was taking the piss, but Wenger believes the press. Somehow he thinks he’s being clever, but actually, he’s fucking it all up as usual.

Egomaniac.

Penguin
25-01-2018, 08:07 PM
Morata cost £70m, Lukaku cost £75m. Aubameyang, who is better than the two of them combined, wants to play for us and is available in the same price range.

Stop low balling and get your fucking cheque book out you idiots.

Cripps
25-01-2018, 08:09 PM
The positive is that if it is Wenger, it only strengthens Ivan's end of season case. Especially now we have top class specialists in the backroom who may be working with 1 hand tied.

Özim
25-01-2018, 08:26 PM
Here we go, deal threatening to fall apart, we've seen this before with these clowns in charge.


Talks between Arsenal and Dortmund for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang have stalled after the Bundesliga giants were angered by the Gunners’ second bid for the Gabon international.

Dortmund are happy to let Aubameyang leave but they were angered by Arsenal’s second bid and feel they’re wasting their time if the Gunners are unwilling to make ‘realistic’ offers, according to Kicker.

Giroud is 30 isn't that good and frankly if he has to go the other way the fans would drive him there themselves, Wenger is so attached to some of these players, this guy has never been good enough and now we have the chance to get someone miles better and we won't let this guy go.

As for the money should have bid what they wanted in the 1st place, seriously what is wrong with them, how often do they annoy other clubs, must be the most hated club in the world by other clubs.

So we could end up with losing Sanchez and get Mkhiti and probably some other mickey mouse signing if we're lucky, good work Arsenal :good:

Niall_Quinn
25-01-2018, 09:15 PM
Yes, that's the news I was expecting to see. Absolutely inevitable. Apparently our new team is there to dance depending on which string is pulled. Any normal club has met the asking price and completed the signing by now, subject to medicals etc, etc. We have yet to make several more underbids that inch us towards the cherished deadline. There will be an element of Dortmund playing silly buggers here too, of course. But Dortmund can't make us offer lowball bids.

Apparently we're fucking around in the same way on the Ozil offer. Alexis wasn't lesson enough I suppose.

What a fucking anchor the club has to drag around with this cock Wenger poking his nose into everything. What's it to do with him what the price is? Either he wants the player or he doesn't want the player. If he wants him then fuck off and let the people hired to do a job do their job. Then again, "What is a director of football?" Remember that one from our prehistoric genius? Tells us all we need to know about his ongoing desire to get involved in everything and fuck everything up.

He's such an unspeakable fucking cock. We beat the chavs last night. What do you do today? What's the OBVIOUS fucking thing you do today?

You announce the signing of Aubameyang. That's the fucking obvious thing you do. You make a fucking point of making that announcement today. So the momentum keeps on rolling.

But he fucking HATES momentum. He's only happy when he's finding ways to take a step back every time we stumble forward.

What an anchor. What a ball and chain. What an albatross.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
25-01-2018, 09:33 PM
Gordon Bennet! :doh:

LDG
25-01-2018, 09:46 PM
Gordon Bennet! :doh:

Yep. Gordon was another one we nearly signed.

GP
25-01-2018, 09:58 PM
Gordon is a moron.

Cripps
25-01-2018, 09:59 PM
Ann Widdecombe is a moron.

Marc Overmars
25-01-2018, 10:09 PM
I love that we’ve got a delegation out there yet are still contriving to fuck it up.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
25-01-2018, 10:29 PM
A delegation that includes a previous recent member of their staff! :doh: