Winter Transfer Despair and Bafflement.

[Niall_Quinn]

I’ll miss that guy. Hopefully, he can reclaim some credibility at Everton. Scoring over 100 goals for Arsenal from the wing and for a player of his ability is no easy task. Was never developed as a winger. He was a number 9 playing on the wing. Wish him all the best.

I call it 50/50 blame for the demise of Walcott. Half down to the player, half down to the idiot who squandered one of the brightest talents at his disposal. I don't know if Theo stayed on out of loyalty or just stupidity and laziness, but staying on has cost him the better part of what could have been a great career. And that idiot who stuck him in the England squad when the players was barely out of nappies, he carries a big chunk of the blame too. Another fraud manager who talks the talk and walks like a drunk, btw.

I don't feel any resentment towards Theo. It's good he has finally left to give his career one more shot. It'll be a huge task for him to step things up now having been in a coma for so long, but good luck to him anyway. If Everton manager to get anything out of him they'll have won themselves a bargain. I doubt it though and I expect to see Theo back on the bench when the honeymoon is over.

This transfer feels like the end of an era at Arsenal. The era of waste. I hope so anyway.

Theo gone and now the one man we all want to see go (apart from Letters and Ty) to follow him out in the summer?

Please God!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

We could easily find a Plan B striker for cheap and that knows he'll be a sub. Would be nuts to reject a trade deal because Giroud's involved.

I just can't get my head around not improving plan A significantly at the risk of losing your plan B....Particularly when plan B might have well left in the summer anyway!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I’ll miss that guy. Hopefully, he can reclaim some credibility at Everton. Scoring over 100 goals for Arsenal from the wing and for a player of his ability is no easy task. Was never developed as a winger. He was a number 9 playing on the wing. Wish him all the best.

Jamie Carragher pretty much said the same thing.....apart from the sentimental missing him part. That is exactly how I feel too though......despite the fact he's fairly unpopular these days.

[Marc Overmars]

It is useful to have a 'plan B' too, Giroud has bailed us out with headed goals at times when we can't break through. But if he's the dealbreaker for Aubameyang then I'd kick Giroud out the door and drive him to the airport myself.

Oh I agree, I’d pack his bags for him too.

Just hope we’re not leaving ourselves a little bit light with no reliable source of goals.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bif is second rate and has always been second rate. He's done well to make a name for himself and done brilliantly to land a place in the French team. But that speaks more about a general lack of talent globally. He's more a Shearer type, but would you really pick him over Shearer? There's a gulf between them. The game has gone backwards to Bif's benefit.

Generally a lazy bastard on the pitch, infuriating. And his presence has, overall, made us a worse team. There is a plan B with him about 3 times a season, we've just conflated the few goals he scores coming off the bench with a real alternative gameplan, which doesn't actually exist. How many time have we brought him on and then failed to deliver a single cross? How many times has he failed to get in the box if a cross does happen to come in? Spectacular goals don't replace the bread and butter a top rate striker can bring you over the course of a season.

I don't think we'll miss him at all. I don't see what he brings and have never seen it. We've always needed a better player than him.

I don't feel animosity towards him, he's served the club to the best of his limited ability and he's (of course) been another victim of Wenger's fucked up idea of football. So he's another one I'll wish good luck to if he goes.

But still, we wait for the one man to go that would really make the difference. The old fart who promises never to leave.

[Marc Overmars]

I’ll miss that guy. Hopefully, he can reclaim some credibility at Everton. Scoring over 100 goals for Arsenal from the wing and for a player of his ability is no easy task. Was never developed as a winger. He was a number 9 playing on the wing. Wish him all the best.

Can’t say I’ll miss him but I do wish him well and hope he is successful. Seems like a good guy who just got stuck in a rut here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Can’t say I’ll miss him but I do wish him well and hope he is successful. Seems like a good guy who just got stuck in a rut here.

That's because he kept running in straight lines. He ended up 2 feet deeper every season.

[Özim]

On Walcott, never really rated the guy, basically a speed merchant IMO, came with a big reputation and didn't deliver in reality, what's worse though is that he could have moved for 1st team football years ago but instead chose to stick around for the money.

The guy has no dribbling skills, isn't great at timining his runs and was very inconsistent and other than one season didn't deliver enough goals either, the amount of times the guy got caught offside as well was ridiculous, all you have to do it look down the line it's not rocket science. IMO we should have got rid of this guy years ago when it was clear he wasn't going to make it. Trust us to sign an expensive youngster who turns out to not be much cop!

As for Aubameyang, Giroud, happy to let Giroud go, he's not a consistent scorer and is really just a good sub, plus he's 30 odd now, Aubameyang is a proven scorer.

[Özim]

That's because he kept running in straight lines. He ended up 2 feet deeper every season.

Yup, the reality is the guy had no footballing brain at all, couldn't beat his man, didn't make great runs, never convinced about his ability we never really saw it, he was fast I'll give him that but that's not enough to be top class.

[Niall_Quinn]

It has become clear that United have beaten Manchester City in the race to sign Sanchez. But Mkhitaryan's agent Mino Raiola insisted he will either leave on his own terms or jeopardise the swap deal with Sanchez.

However, it is understood that Mkhitaryan accepts he has no future at United and is now looking to negotiate an increase on his £140,000-a-week contract when he moves.

Raiola said: 'It's up to Arsenal to put a deal in place and right now a deal is a long way off. Sanchez is part of Mkhi's deal. Not the other way around.'

Funny fat pig. So how come the team in 6th is where your superstar is headed? Where's the bidding war? The word you are looking for, matey, is makeweight. Something you should know plenty about you fat fuck.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The problem with players like Giroud is ego. Who wants to be second billing, who is happy to spend their career as the super sub....so in reality you can keep a player like that for 2 seasons really and then you have to bring someone else in

For once I tend to agree with PNG, Giroud doesn’t exactly have qualities that would be hard to replace.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Now Aubameyang has given up his daft dream of playing for Marketing and we're on the case I'm fast losing interest in where Sanchez is going. It isn't much fun considering whether I'll vomit a lot or just a little bit depending on which rival we flog him to.

Mikhi's stats off the top of my head....(I can't be arsed to double check it with google!).....were 26 goals and 13 assists in the German league last season. That looks like a potential Salah waiting to happen doesn't it? He doesn't have to score at quite that rate to be worthwhile either. I feel like I'm coming more and more around to the idea of having him.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I actually think Giroud's specific qualities at the level he provides them are difficult to replace. My argument is that we don't need to replace those specific qualities as we can focus on others and if the plan A and overall team works better we don't need to be so reliant on the plan B anyway.

[Cripps]

I’ll miss that guy. Hopefully, he can reclaim some credibility at Everton. Scoring over 100 goals for Arsenal from the wing and for a player of his ability is no easy task. Was never developed as a winger. He was a number 9 playing on the wing. Wish him all the best.

Yep. Scored 100 goals despite shit coaching and shit management.

He must be regretting his decision to choose us back when he was a kid. He must look back at his career and think wow what a massive waste. He hasn't achieved half of what was expected.

:rose:

[Globalgunner]

Where is Cripps nowadays. The poor chap thought the sun shone right out of Theo`s arse.
Theo is a all about Wenger, such was wengers need for adulation having discovered the "next Henry" that he somehow conned the Swedish shagmeister Sven Goran Eriksson into putting him in the England squad. Even Sven after a few training sessions realised what a mistake he had made. Up until a few years ago, walcott could not even trap a ball properly. He could not read a game and given enough time to make a choice, almost always took the wrong one. His single MO was to run very fast and hit the ball very hard, hopefully into the net.

Wenger hasnt developed a player since Fabregas, who left as soon as he realised the stagnation was endemic with Wenger and his non tactics. Wenger wont improve a player, wont erase his bad habits, and his ego will not even allow anyone else at the club to point out the players shortcomings to him.

If Wenger was in charge of a medical school. Young doctors would be removing lungs instead of ruptured spleens and Wenger would be in the theater watching on as the patient was butchered to pieces by mistake.

[Cripps]

Bif is second rate and has always been second rate. He's done well to make a name for himself and done brilliantly to land a place in the French team. But that speaks more about a general lack of talent globally. He's more a Shearer type, but would you really pick him over Shearer? There's a gulf between them. The game has gone backwards to Bif's benefit.

Generally a lazy bastard on the pitch, infuriating. And his presence has, overall, made us a worse team. There is a plan B with him about 3 times a season, we've just conflated the few goals he scores coming off the bench with a real alternative gameplan, which doesn't actually exist. How many time have we brought him on and then failed to deliver a single cross? How many times has he failed to get in the box if a cross does happen to come in? Spectacular goals don't replace the bread and butter a top rate striker can bring you over the course of a season.

I don't think we'll miss him at all. I don't see what he brings and have never seen it. We've always needed a better player than him.

I don't feel animosity towards him, he's served the club to the best of his limited ability and he's (of course) been another victim of Wenger's fucked up idea of football. So he's another one I'll wish good luck to if he goes.

But still, we wait for the one man to go that would really make the difference. The old fart who promises never to leave.

He's a great plan B. Not a plan A.

Blame the idiot in charge for making him RVP's successor.

But for £12m he has more than repaid that. A solid reliable guy that I've grown to like and respect.

[Niall_Quinn]

Now Aubameyang has given up his daft dream of playing for Marketing and we're on the case I'm fast losing interest in where Sanchez is going. It isn't much fun considering whether I'll vomit a lot or just a little bit depending on which rival we flog him to.

Mikhi's stats off the top of my head....(I can't be arsed to double check it with google!).....were 26 goals and 13 assists in the German league last season. That looks like a potential Salah waiting to happen doesn't it? He doesn't have to score at quite that rate to be worthwhile either. I feel like I'm coming more and more around to the idea of having him.

Salah is being managed by Klopp. Anyone we bring in will be managed by Wenger. Don't get your hopes up. It's just not worth it.

[Niall_Quinn]

I actually think Giroud's specific qualities at the level he provides them are difficult to replace. My argument is that we don't need to replace those specific qualities as we can focus on others and if the plan A and overall team works better we don't need to be so reliant on the plan B anyway.

Plan A (and Plan B for that matter) is tapping the ball around aimlessly in front of a packed defence, trying to force it through a hopelessly congested centre whilst refusing to shoot at the target. And then getting caught on the counter. When you have a Plan A like that you need to have genuine world class talent all over the pitch (like Barca has) to pull off the almost impossible stupidity demanded by Wenger.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's a great plan B. Not a plan A.

Blame the idiot in charge for making him RVP's successor.

But for £12m he has more than repaid that. A solid reliable guy that I've grown to like and respect.

Absolutely.

A second rate replacement for a world class talent. That has always been the problem. And agreed, for the price we got a good deal. But that's only because we shop in the bargain basement. We needed another world class talent and we got Bif. Not his fault at all and I don't blame him for not being RvC. That blame lies entirely with Mr Cheapskate Loser.

[Globalgunner]

Giroud has his qualities but again we failed to use them. Whenever we played him from the start he would rarely make an impact. A big immobile striker who would spend most of the match in the middle 3rd, helping build up play. Not ever in the box, besides nobody was ever taught how to cross the ball so there was really no point in having him in the team. Sure he scored a few spectacular goals but, he is second rate, always has been. If Benzema hadnt cocked himself into a life ban, he wouldnt even play for France either. Its nice now that he wants to leave to secure a WC place but without that he would be sitting pretty on the bench counting his wad each week

[Niall_Quinn]

Where is Cripps nowadays. The poor chap thought the sun shone right out of Theo`s arse.
Theo is a all about Wenger, such was wengers need for adulation having discovered the "next Henry" that he somehow conned the Swedish shagmeister Sven Goran Eriksson into putting him in the England squad. Even Sven after a few training sessions realised what a mistake he had made. Up until a few years ago, walcott could not even trap a ball properly. He could not read a game and given enough time to make a choice, almost always took the wrong one. His single MO was to run very fast and hit the ball very hard, hopefully into the net.

Wenger hasnt developed a player since Fabregas, who left as soon as he realised the stagnation was endemic with Wenger and his non tactics. Wenger wont improve a player, wont erase his bad habits, and his ego will not even allow anyone else at the club to point out the players shortcomings to him.

If Wenger was in charge of a medical school. Young doctors would be removing lungs instead of ruptured spleens and Wenger would be in the theater watching on as the patient was butchered to pieces by mistake.

Yes, but there would be great spirit in the operating theatre.

[Power n Glory]

Jamie Carragher pretty much said the same thing.....apart from the sentimental missing him part. That is exactly how I feel too though......despite the fact he's fairly unpopular these days.

Very unpopular and he hasn't helped himself because he's stuck around for so long. You see the benefit of the doubt Lacazette and Giroud get on here. I see him as a number 9 and not a winger. All the advice Wenger has given him, publicly, suggests that's how Wenger wanted him to play. It's done him no favours because despite working harder last season and scoring 19 goals, it gets forgotten very quickly.

[Niall_Quinn]

Very unpopular and he hasn't helped himself because he's stuck around for so long. You see the benefit of the doubt Lacazette and Giroud get on here. I see him as a number 9 and not a winger. All the advice Wenger has given him, publicly, suggests that's how Wenger wanted him to play. It's done him no favours because despite working harder last season and scoring 19 goals, it gets forgotten very quickly.

It's because when Theo is unproductive he is spectacularly unproductive. So unproductive it sticks in the mind above all else. He's the ultimate in terms of inconsistency and that makes him hugely frustrating and that means he's going to get a lot of grief. But Bif misses just as many and goes missing just as much. Now Lacazette seems to be catching the same disease. I wonder what the common factor is? Can't imagine.

[Cripps]

Arsenal think Mkhitaryan wants to come, Sanchez deal still on, biggest danger is Raiola pushing things too far, plenty of negotiating to be done. Arsenal still interested in Evans and Malcom. Don’t think Malcom happens if they get Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan https://t.co/PrDUKhLQ6V

Can you imagine Gazidis and Wengers shock at having to deal with him? They probably loathe having to deal with him :lol:

Literally encapsulates everything they hate about football. I bet the fat pig is taking them to the cleaners with his demands:lol:

[AFC Leveller]

The funny thing about this swap deal is that we are trying swap a player who doesnt want to play for Arsenal for another player who doesnt want to play for Arsenal.....

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Can't hate on Giroud. Usually always gave it his best and unlike some of the other wastemen, he did the best with the amount of skill & talent he had. Not his fault that Wenger thrust him into the position he did.

If he goes, I've got nothing but praise and respect for him.

Though with him and Theo off, it'll seem like the end of of yet another era of sorts.


Where is Cripps nowadays..

Yeah it'd be really interesting to know what he thinks about his favourite Theo.

[Niall_Quinn]

Can't hate on Giroud. Usually always gave it his best and unlike some of the other wastemen, he did the best with the amount of skill & talent he had. Not his fault that Wenger thrust him into the position he did.

If he goes, I've got nothing but praise and respect for him.

Though with him and Theo off, it'll seem like the end of of yet another era of sorts.



Yeah it'd be really interesting to know what he thinks about his favourite Theo.

We're transitioning to a new transition period.

[Marc Overmars]

Now Aubameyang has given up his daft dream of playing for Marketing and we're on the case I'm fast losing interest in where Sanchez is going. It isn't much fun considering whether I'll vomit a lot or just a little bit depending on which rival we flog him to.

Mikhi's stats off the top of my head....(I can't be arsed to double check it with google!).....were 26 goals and 13 assists in the German league last season. That looks like a potential Salah waiting to happen doesn't it? He doesn't have to score at quite that rate to be worthwhile either. I feel like I'm coming more and more around to the idea of having him.

Mkhi is an upgrade on Walcott so it would be a smart move.

[Cripps]

Guillem Bellendgue says another 'massive club' is in for Sanchez, but won't name them:

@GuillemBalague tells #TransferTalk Manchester United could face competition from another "massive club", in addition to Chelsea, for Arsenal forward Alexis Sanchez. Listen HERE: https://t.co/iAgdOmGrmX or subscribe and download HERE: https://t.co/3zykfM7S75 #SSN https://t.co/l9ZkKG3RxF


Real Madrid? Rumours of Ronaldo leaving...

[Gooner23]

That would be good, hopefully last minute of the transfer window to string United along

[KSE Comedy Club]

Not really, we need to get him gone and a replacement in sooner rather than stringing it out to the end of the window like we always do.

Get the players in and out and be done and dusted so we can get on with things.

Sick and tired of the 'saga's' tbh :rolleyes:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Guillem Bellendgue says another 'massive club' is in for Sanchez, but won't name them:

@GuillemBalague tells #TransferTalk Manchester United could face competition from another "massive club", in addition to Chelsea, for Arsenal forward Alexis Sanchez. Listen HERE: https://t.co/iAgdOmGrmX or subscribe and download HERE: https://t.co/3zykfM7S75 #SSN https://t.co/l9ZkKG3RxF


Real Madrid? Rumours of Ronaldo leaving...
Balague talking shit again.

Probably feels left out

[Power n Glory]

It's because when Theo is unproductive he is spectacularly unproductive. So unproductive it sticks in the mind above all else. He's the ultimate in terms of inconsistency and that makes him hugely frustrating and that means he's going to get a lot of grief. But Bif misses just as many and goes missing just as much. Now Lacazette seems to be catching the same disease. I wonder what the common factor is? Can't imagine.

Unproductive for certain games because he’s totally reliant on service, much like Lacazette and Giroud. But what makes it worse for Theo is that he’s spent his career playing on the wing and as a winger. As a winger, he can’t just focus on scoring goals and getting on the end of moves and finishing. Wingers have to be able to create situations for others and themselves.

Lacazette and Giroud are at least being played in their natural position and we can see what type of service they need and how the system would best serve them. For Theo, I can’t see a system where you’d be able to get away with playing a number 9 out wide. No coach does that. From the numbers he gets goal wise, Wenger should have seen ages ago that he should have played Theo up front but he doesn’t like traditional number 9 style strikers. Never has.

Theo’s a result of an experiment gone wrong. If Ox were to have continued playing on the wing or if Jack or Ramsey were to be played on the wing all the time, we’d get the same sort of inconsistency from these players. We’ve seen it. Cautionary tale for any young player thinking about joining Arsenal and Wenger. Maitland Niles and Nelson should pay attention.

[Özim]

Thought Wenger said Sanchez situation would be resolved within 48 hours one way or the other?

[Özim]

Got to say regarding Walcott, where were the signs of real talent, those flashes of brilliance exhibited by players with true potential, never really saw these. He was quick and his finishing improved in later life, but overall there was nothing outstanding about him and he just wasn't effective enough, just like Giroud he was most effective when brought on as a sub against tired defences, then his pace would give him an advantage. Whenever he started a match most of the time he was poor.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Thought Wenger said Sanchez situation would be resolved within 48 hours one way or the other?

I thought you’d learnt to take whatever Wenger says with the same barrel of salt as anything Donald Trump says

[Niall_Quinn]

Guillem Bellendgue says another 'massive club' is in for Sanchez, but won't name them:

@GuillemBalague tells #TransferTalk Manchester United could face competition from another "massive club", in addition to Chelsea, for Arsenal forward Alexis Sanchez. Listen HERE: https://t.co/iAgdOmGrmX or subscribe and download HERE: https://t.co/3zykfM7S75 #SSN https://t.co/l9ZkKG3RxF


Real Madrid? Rumours of Ronaldo leaving...

So the chavs didn't bite then?

[Niall_Quinn]

Unproductive for certain games because he’s totally reliant on service, much like Lacazette and Giroud. But what makes it worse for Theo is that he’s spent his career playing on the wing and as a winger. As a winger, he can’t just focus on scoring goals and getting on the end of moves and finishing. Wingers have to be able to create situations for others and themselves.

Lacazette and Giroud are at least being played in their natural position and we can see what type of service they need and how the system would best serve them. For Theo, I can’t see a system where you’d be able to get away with playing a number 9 out wide. No coach does that. From the numbers he gets goal wise, Wenger should have seen ages ago that he should have played Theo up front but he doesn’t like traditional number 9 style strikers. Never has.

Theo’s a result of an experiment gone wrong. If Ox were to have continued playing on the wing or if Jack or Ramsey were to be played on the wing all the time, we’d get the same sort of inconsistency from these players. We’ve seen it. Cautionary tale for any young player thinking about joining Arsenal and Wenger. Maitland Niles and Nelson should pay attention.

Same thing with Aubameyang, a player that needs good players around him. If Wenger expects to stick him wide and play the Theo/ Alexis role he's going to have wasted 60 mill. We need to change our system if these players are really coming in. Trying to fit them into the same tired old shit for another go around will result in the same nothingness we have been suffering for a seeming eternity. Surely Wenger can't make the same mistake again?

But he can, can't he? And he will.

[Niall_Quinn]

Thought Wenger said Sanchez situation would be resolved within 48 hours one way or the other?

Same Wenger who said he wouldn't sell our star players to rivals? Or a different Wenger?

That said, Wenger hasn't technically lied. He's turned us into such a pile of shit it's fair to say Utd and the gypos aren't our rivals any more.

[Power n Glory]

Got to say regarding Walcott, where were the signs of real talent, those flashes of brilliance exhibited by players with true potential, never really saw these. He was quick and his finishing improved in later life, but overall there was nothing outstanding about him and he just wasn't effective enough, just like Giroud he was most effective when brought on as a sub against tired defences, then his pace would give him an advantage. Whenever he started a match most of the time he was poor.

Every Arsenal fan can name one moment of brilliance from Theo. Just one particular moment that we'd all agree on that was brilliant. You can't be that biased to not recognise or remember what I'm talking about.

[Niall_Quinn]

Got to say regarding Walcott, where were the signs of real talent, those flashes of brilliance exhibited by players with true potential, never really saw these. He was quick and his finishing improved in later life, but overall there was nothing outstanding about him and he just wasn't effective enough, just like Giroud he was most effective when brought on as a sub against tired defences, then his pace would give him an advantage. Whenever he started a match most of the time he was poor.

Unfair. Back when Theo first came onto the scene there were many displays of raw talent. He'd terrorise defences with his direct play and sometimes he was unplayable. That's when he knew where the goal was and had the weapons to get there, fast. A decent coach could have added so much more to his game. But Theo had Wenger. Like Ox. And Campbell. And Gnabry. And a long list of youngsters who were the next big thing and ended up elsewhere because they couldn't break into out tippety tap troupe.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Got to say regarding Walcott, where were the signs of real talent, those flashes of brilliance exhibited by players with true potential, never really saw these. He was quick and his finishing improved in later life, but overall there was nothing outstanding about him and he just wasn't effective enough, just like Giroud he was most effective when brought on as a sub against tired defences, then his pace would give him an advantage. Whenever he started a match most of the time he was poor.

Yeh, after 10 years Theo going is just 'meh'

[Niall_Quinn]

Every Arsenal fan can name one moment of brilliance from Theo. Just one particular moment that we'd all agree on that was brilliant. You can't be that biased to not recognise or remember what I'm talking about.

Adebayor's goal against Liverpool when Theo left the entire Liverpool team in his wake and showed great strength and determination to play the prefect ball across the face of goal. The way we used to play back then compared to now. Of course Theo was better off, everyone was. Now look at the snail's paced shite. Who is going to prosper in a system like that? Tip tap tip tap.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I would say of Theo that a lot of the criticisms attributable to him in terms of ability also apply to Raheem Sterling

And like it or not, the guy is tearing it up at the moment

[KSE Comedy Club]

Every Arsenal fan can name one moment of brilliance from Theo. Just one particular moment that we'd all agree on that was brilliant. You can't be that biased to not recognise or remember what I'm talking about.

Yeh, when he was stretchered off and stuck his fingers up to indicate the score against spurs :lol:

[Gooner23]

Yeh, when he was stretchered off and stuck his fingers up to indicate the score against spurs :lol:

Theo :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

I would say of Theo that a lot of the criticisms attributable to him in terms of ability also apply to Raheem Sterling

And like it or not, the guy is tearing it up at the moment

I get the comparison but I think Sterling is the better player. Though granted, the difference likely stems from the coaching they've received and how they've been deployed.

[Power n Glory]

Same thing with Aubameyang, a player that needs good players around him. If Wenger expects to stick him wide and play the Theo/ Alexis role he's going to have wasted 60 mill. We need to change our system if these players are really coming in. Trying to fit them into the same tired old shit for another go around will result in the same nothingness we have been suffering for a seeming eternity. Surely Wenger can't make the same mistake again?

But he can, can't he? And he will.

I'd rather we played Auba up front if we buy him and try a two man striker system but that's unlikely. But he doesn't look like a player totally reliant on service. He looks like someone that gets quite a lot of touches on the ball. Theo is totally different. He's a low touch player and spends less time and touches on the ball than anyone else on the pitch. Wenger playing him on the wing would be like Houllier developing Michael Own as winger at 16 instead of as a striker because the kid was super quick.

[Power n Glory]

Yeh, when he was stretchered off and stuck his fingers up to indicate the score against spurs :lol::bow::rimshot:

[Power n Glory]

Adebayor's goal against Liverpool when Theo left the entire Liverpool team in his wake and showed great strength and determination to play the prefect ball across the face of goal. The way we used to play back then compared to now. Of course Theo was better off, everyone was. Now look at the snail's paced shite. Who is going to prosper in a system like that? Tip tap tip tap.

Totally. Power, pace and technique. Theo has stopped dribbling on the ball and his style of play has totally changed. Theo doesn't even attempt to beat his man anymore.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

There are loads of Theo moments I love

My personal favourite was 2011 at Stamford bridge when he was tripped tumbled over but got up still in possession sidestepped a defender in the box and smashed the ball in.

We deride his dribbling skills, but they were certainly on show that day.

[Cripps]

Unfair. Back when Theo first came onto the scene there were many displays of raw talent. He'd terrorise defences with his direct play and sometimes he was unplayable. That's when he knew where the goal was and had the weapons to get there, fast. A decent coach could have added so much more to his game. But Theo had Wenger. Like Ox. And Campbell. And Gnabry. And a long list of youngsters who were the next big thing and ended up elsewhere because they couldn't break into out tippety tap troupe.

Agree.

There were a couple of seasons where Theo was very effective. He used to shred defences down the right. Under a proper manager he'd have been a beast.

[Cripps]

Totally. Power, pace and technique. Theo has stopped dribbling on the ball and his style of play has totally changed. Theo doesn't even attempt to beat his man anymore.

Confidence completely shot.

[Niall_Quinn]

What Alexis had to say about Arsenal:


As announced earlier this year I had a meeting with the Boss and Mr. Gazidis after the season.

This was a meeting about the club’s future strategy and their policy.

Financial terms or a contract have not been discussed, since that is not my priority at all.

I personally have had a great season but my goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days.

Out of my huge respect for Mr. Wenger, the players and the fans I don’t want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.

I’ve thought long and hard about it, but I have decided not to extend my contract. You guys, the fans, have of course the right to disagree with my view and decision and I will always respect your opinions.

Oh no, wait. That was RvC - SIX YEARS AGO!

What has changed? And what's the constant?

This club needs a massive slap around the head. WAKEY WAKEY!

[fakeyank]

Where is Joel Campbell btw? :unsure:

[Niall_Quinn]

Where is Joel Campbell btw? :unsure:

As far away as he can get.

Real Betis. But I heard he bought a ticket for Mongolia when he heard Wenger was looking at the option of bringing loanees back.

[Power n Glory]

What Alexis had to say about Arsenal:



Oh no, wait. That was RvC - SIX YEARS AGO!

What has changed? And what's the constant?

This club needs a massive slap around the head. WAKEY WAKEY!

I still don't blame RVP for releasing that statement. The club were trying to make out as if wages were the sticking point and that we couldn't compete with what City and Co were prepared to offer. Total bullshit.

[Niall_Quinn]

I still don't blame RVP for releasing that statement. The club were trying to make out as if wages were the sticking point and that we couldn't compete with what City and Co were prepared to offer. Total bullshit.

My view six years on has changed in line with Wenger's failure to do a damn fucking thing during that period. RvC looked like a traitor at the time. Seemingly everything laid on a plate for him at Arsenal following on from his best ever season with us. After we had persevered with all his injuries. But what the club was really doing was asking him to sacrifice the remainder of his career for a bullshit Wenger ego trip. In hindsight nobody can really blame him for getting the fuck out. A superstar like Alexis would be an idiot to stay here too. And Ozil is basically making a choice between career and the easy life and a fade out to obscurity. If he wants to get back into the A list he has no choice but to leave.

Because nothing is changing here while Wenger remains in charge. And that goes for any new players we might bring in. Same story. They have no chance. If RvP (first time I've used that in nearly 6 years) couldn't drag us up from Wenger's bullshit at the height of his powers, if Alexis and Ozil combined couldn't do it, then who is there to make a difference? Nobody. Pele, Messi, Maradona, Zidane and Ronaldo combined are no match for the mad cunt.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A8vwnrI-Rc

[Cripps]

Where is Joel Campbell btw? :unsure:

Hiding with Letters in the Currants thread.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A8vwnrI-Rc

I was out of my seat leaping around the room after that.

And then, a few minutes later :ilt:

Only at Arsenal.

[Cripps]

I was out of my seat leaping around the room after that.

And then, a few minutes later :ilt:

Only at Arsenal.

:lol: having a conversation with yourself. Do you ever work?

[Niall_Quinn]

:lol: having a conversation with yourself. Do you ever work?

Getting tons done today. Automated build processes. Feet up and earning.

[Cripps]

Alexis Sanchez agrees four-year Manchester United contract worth £14m as Arsenal wait on Henrikh Mkhitaryan | @Matt_Law_DT
https://t.co/q5lMW8REWo

:rose:

[GP]

Alexis Sanchez agrees four-year Manchester United contract worth £14m

Bullshit. That's like 70k a week?

[Niall_Quinn]

Bullshit. That's like 70k a week?

It's 14 mill a week.

[Cripps]

Michy Batshuayi wanted by Borussia Dortmund as Germans prepare to sell Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang https://t.co/f9advBKDwn

[Özim]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A8vwnrI-Rc

Ah yes the old Walcott, Adebarndoor combination, what a team :lol:

Great run and all that however that was so infrequent that you'd have to say there's got to be some luck involved in that, players like Sterling do it far more regularly and are IMO more talented.

Personally I'll be glad to see the back of him, just like I was with Adebayor, he arrived in 2006, to have so few brilliant moments in a 12 year career with us is a damning reflection of his ability as well as Wengers coaching ability, in 12 years I'd have expected him to be better than he is, Wenger or not if he was really that talented. Everyone has the odd brilliant goal in them in a 12 year career, it's not proof of ability if you don't repeat it more conistently.

[GP]

It's 14 mill a week.

So they haggled him down a lot?

[Özim]

RE RVP, had he stayed all he'd have is an FA Cup to his name in all likelyness, which would have been a total waste of his talent, he made the right choice, I thought so back then as well.

[Niall_Quinn]

So they haggled him down a lot?

Yes, but his agent still keeps his 13.99 mill a week.

[Cripps]

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is moving ever closer to an #Arsenal switch. His agent has jetted into London to seal the transfer. #AFC
https://t.co/Ni6zoepIIm

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is moving ever closer to an #Arsenal switch. His agent has jetted into London to seal the transfer. #AFC
https://t.co/Ni6zoepIIm

No more goal.com links then?

[Globalgunner]

Wenger will drag it on till 30th of Jan and at the last moment pull out because Sanogo is starting to look world class in training.

[Cripps]

Theo Walcott completes move to Everton from Arsenal and signs three-and-a-half year deal https://t.co/PAkgx7ZCnR

FINALLY!

[Globalgunner]

Theo Walcott completes move to Everton from Arsenal and signs three-and-a-half year deal https://t.co/PAkgx7ZCnR

FINALLY!

Goodbye, Farewell. Auf Wiedesen, Adieu.

Dont you dare come back ans score any stupid goals against us. also can you quit with the shit tattoos.

[Özim]

Theo Walcott completes move to Everton from Arsenal and signs three-and-a-half year deal https://t.co/PAkgx7ZCnR

FINALLY!

YES, get in there, at last!

Finally we get him off our books, something that should have happened years ago!

[Marc Overmars]

Theo. :wave:

[Özim]

Walcott for me is one of the biggest disappointments ever, when he arrived with all the hype I thought this guy had the potential to be a world beater, that was the only reason I could understand the hype that surrounded him (I'd never really heard of him before we were linked with him), the disappointment when I realised how ordinary he was and how he lacked any real standout talents other than pace was massive for me, expected a player who could display real flair instead this kid showed up with little to his game and it continued for 12 years.

The lack of development as well was frustrating, IMO we should have cut our losses 6 years ago, he'd had a fair crack by then and not performed.

[Niall_Quinn]

No Theo. A new era at Arsenal.

Who is our longest serving player now? Jack?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Glad hes finally gone! the deal is complete.

Bye Theo :wave:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Is there any chance we can sell Wenger?

I’m sure a couple of clubs would be interested if we offered them enough money?

[Cripps]

Sanchez on 490k a week before tax :faint:

[Niall_Quinn]

Sanchez on 490k a week before tax :faint:

It was 350k per week a couple of hours ago.

Bloody inflation.

[Özim]

Let's be honest anyone we bring in for Sanchez is a panic buy, none of the names mentioned were we remotely interested in before this, of course some panic buys are better than others and the ones were seemingly interested in panic buying are decent.

Remains to be seen if we sign any of them however.

[Cripps]

If we sign Auba are we changing the system then? Is there an actual plan or are we just buying whatever we can?

Cause we can't play 3-5-2 and Auba as a wing back :doh:

And if we change the system and go to a 4-3-3 what about the summer additions? Kolasinac was bought to suit the wing back role so what will happen to him? Is there any bloody planning at this stupid club?

[Niall_Quinn]

We need to sign a DM and a decent defender who isn't called Jonny Evans. Then we can set up an attack minded formation. Of course we'll have to get rid of Wenger to do any of that.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/17/16/483BED8800000578-5280109-Alexis_Sanchez_right_was_seen_in_Mill_Hill_on_Wedn esday_as_he_cl-m-17_1516205615543.jpg

Looks like we have a happy player on the way out and a "happy" player on the way in.

Troopz :bow:

Wasn't he calling Alexis a cunt the other day?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo says he felt the hunger from the manager.

Kind way of saying your new boss is a fat bastard.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No Theo. A new era at Arsenal.

Who is our longest serving player now? Jack?

Misery.

[Power n Glory]

If we sign Auba are we changing the system then? Is there an actual plan or are we just buying whatever we can?

Cause we can't play 3-5-2 and Auba as a wing back :doh:

And if we change the system and go to a 4-3-3 what about the summer additions? Kolasinac was bought to suit the wing back role so what will happen to him? Is there any bloody planning at this stupid club?

Kolasanic was being played as a CB when he first arrived. We didn't have a plan for him when he arrived. He caught Wenger's attention because he was available on a free.

I can't see us changing systems to accommodate whoever comes in. At best, we'll go back to playing 4-2-3-1 and he'll find a way to fuck that up. Wait until Ramsey is fully fit and Wenger tries to think of a way to play him, Wilshere, Xhaka and Ozil. ;)

[Niall_Quinn]

Misery.

Didn't he marry Kompany?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:haha:

Brilliant.

[Power n Glory]

Misery.

:gp: Hope has been snuffed out.

[Xhaka Can’t]

It was 350k per week a couple of hours ago.

Bloody inflation.

He’s being paid in bitcoin

[Niall_Quinn]

He’s being paid in bitcoin

Did you hear the one about the guy who bought two power stations so he could power his bitcoin mining servers?

True story that.

As usual, I don't have enough cash to get with the latest trends so I'll have to stick with my trusty flared and flowered overdraft.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Wasn't he calling Alexis a cunt the other day?

lol he did the same thing to Wenger. Called him a cunt and what not on AFTV and yet he got starstruck when he had the chance to meet him. :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

In all of this I forgot Ozil is also heading out the door but at least we’ll get a few more months out of him.

:ilt:

The move to the Emirates would put us on par with the top clubs they said. I think we all know our place in the food chain now.

[AFC Leveller]

We have already sold 32m worth of player so far this window (coq and feo) so the club have made a decent profit. A straight swap with Mikhi would mean the tight bastards won't spend any money, just the way they like it.

[Niall_Quinn]

We have already sold 32m worth of player so far this window (coq and feo) so the club have made a decent profit. A straight swap with Mikhi would mean the tight bastards won't spend any money, just the way they like it.

We haven't spent the 30-40 mill for Ox either. So they are big time quids in right now. Surely there will be a riot if they try to go through this window without shoring up the squad with some quality? The fans will briefly wave their prawn sandwiches in disgust.

[Cripps]

Malcolm is grimandi's work apparently.

Stay clear then.

[KSE Comedy Club]

yeh not sure about Malcom tbh.
Looks an interesting prospect but we need Wenger gone first

[Cripps]

Walcott 90-minute league appearances in 12 years at Arsenal:
64 (5.3 per year)

@TimesSport


:lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

That can’t be right


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[Marc Overmars]

It wouldn’t surprise me.

He was always one of the first to be hauled off.

[LDG]

He spent half a game wetting himself on the touchline without a clue how to get into the game. And in his latter career, as a more confident adult, spent half the game wondering whether to get into the game or whether to come up with some new ideas for a book, a tattoo or what to say at full time.

Maybe they took that into account.

[Xhaka Can’t]

But he scored a hatrick.

For England!


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[Niall_Quinn]

Walcott 90-minute league appearances in 12 years at Arsenal:
64 (5.3 per year)

@TimesSport


:lol:

FakeNews

[Penguin]

The thing with Theo is that he never had nearly as much potential as the media made out. At 16 he was a quick sprinter with a decent finish. There wasn't anything else to him, average control, average dribbling, no footballing 'common sense'. Not sure how that translated into him being the second coming. Wenger didn't have a clue how to use him either and wasted him trying to turn him into Ljungberg. Theo should have left a long time ago or we should have booted him out for his own sake.

Shame about the injuries too, it's safe to blame Wenger for that considering all the other players he's turned into crocks.

Best of luck to him at Everton.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Has Sanchez fucked off yet?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenger press conference live on Sky right now.

Let’s see if he has little bit pursuaded Micky mouse to stop moping around carrington and join us.

[Özim]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger says it is "likely" forward Alexis Sanchez will join Premier League rivals Manchester United.

How about he tells us something interesting we don't know about for a change? :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Wenker says:

-Sanchez to United likely to happen.
-Mkhi wages not a problem.
-Unlikely to get Malcom.
-Auba deal not close.

[Özim]

So far then we lose Sanchez, sell Coquelin and Walcott and we may get Mkhitiryan, great.

All in all that would be pretty awful, our best player out for a guy who can't even get in their team and hasn't performed and won't even score that many goals.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We’d prefer to announce it when it’s done on Aubemeyang

[Özim]

IF it gets done, won't believe it till I see it.

[Özim]

Liverpool favourites to land Malcolm apparently, would like to see us get him, Liverpool have this habit of discovering top talents at reasonable prices and then selling them for an absolute fortune, reckon Malcolm could be one of those.

[selassie]

We’d prefer to announce it when it’s done on Aubemeyang

Sounds like we are quite advanced in the negotiations for him. I mean anything can happen with Arsenal but it’s a positive step. I think it’s essential we get him, only swapping Mkhi for Sanchez would be a disgraceful window IMO.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Sounds like we are quite advanced in the negotiations for him. I mean anything can happen with Arsenal but it’s a positive step. I think it’s essential we get him, only swapping Mkhi for Sanchez would be a disgraceful window IMO.

Agree completley

Also the unlikely to sign Malcom in this window suggests he’s seen as a replacement for Ozil. I don’t know enough about him to know whether he’s that kind of player

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

IF it gets done, won't believe it till I see it.

Well no obviously

[selassie]

Agree completley

Also the unlikely to sign Malcom in this window suggests he’s seen as a replacement for Ozil. I don’t know enough about him to know whether he’s that kind of player

Yeah I agree. It sounds like Malcom might be coming in the summer as the door definitely doesn't sound closed on that deal, I get the impression Bordeaux were reluctant to let him go now but will let him go in the Summer.

Sadly I think Ozil will join Sanchez at United in the summer. Mourinho must be laughing his socks off, he's managed to get our two best players for effectively nothing.

[Özim]

Liverpool are seemingly in pole position for Malcolm and they also want a keeper apparently.

As far as we're concerned with Mikhi and Auba, we'll still most likely break even on our transfer business (with Ox in mind), we don't seem too interested in spending anything we haven't raised from selling players.

The other thing is apparently Auba can't play in the Europa because Dortmund are already in it (even though they haven't played - that seems to be the rule), we Mikhi would be the only one of the two that can play.

[selassie]

Liverpool are seemingly in pole position for Malcolm and they also want a keeper apparently.

As far as we're concerned with Mikhi and Auba, we'll still most likely break even on our transfer business (with Ox in mind), we don't seem too interested in spending anything we haven't raised from selling players.

The other thing is apparently Auba can't play in the Europa because Dortmund are already in it (even though they haven't played - that seems to be the rule), we Mikhi would be the only one of the two that can play.

Hey Zim, where are you reading the Malcom to Liverpool rumours? Honestly, if it is a straight choice between Arsenal and Liverpool I think most players would choose Liverpool at the moment.

I think Auba and Mkhi are the best we can hope for considering the state we are in, they are opportunist punts based on there indifferences they have with their current clubs. Don't get me wrong I agree that our approach in the transfer market is a disgrace for a club of our size, but we have literally been reduced to picking up the scraps. We can no longer entice even exciting young talents let alone established players, the likes of Lemar and Malcom prove that these players won't kick up a fuss to move here, I'm sure if the likes of United, City or even Liverpool were on there cases they would force a move.

I don't think we will win the Europa regardless, the competition is too fierce this year and whilst we are logically one of the better teams we aren't as good as Napoli or Atletico Madrid IMO.

[Cripps]

A BIG update from @jamesolley

Arsenal are pushing Man United to include a cash payment of up to £10million in addition to signing Henrikh Mkhitaryan before allowing Alexis Sanchez to move to Old Trafford

�� Read all about it here �� https://t.co/qzkwyY3BqY https://t.co/mAiabGFNuq

Wenger :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

So far then we lose Sanchez, sell Coquelin and Walcott and we may get Mkhitiryan, great.

All in all that would be pretty awful, our best player out for a guy who can't even get in their team and hasn't performed and won't even score that many goals.

I think you are missing the point.

40 mill for Ox
12 mill for Coq
20 mill for Theo
And we might be getting cash for Alexis after all, and there's still a couple of weeks left so don't rule out selling Ozil for a few quid.

See?

[Niall_Quinn]

Sounds like we are quite advanced in the negotiations for him. I mean anything can happen with Arsenal but it’s a positive step. I think it’s essential we get him, only swapping Mkhi for Sanchez would be a disgraceful window IMO.

Marketing expressed an interest last night, according to another on of these rumours. But a rumour alone should be good enough to send this to the wire. Wouldn't be surprised if we put that rumour out ourselves. A phantom bidding war all the way to the finishing line and pipped at the post. All we'd be left with is the damn stinking profit.

Think cynical and then double it.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think you are missing the point.

40 mill for Ox
12 mill for Coq
20 mill for Theo
And we might be getting cash for Alexis after all, and there's still a couple of weeks left so don't rule out selling Ozil for a few quid.

See?

But who benefits from this cash?

[Power n Glory]

I think you are missing the point.

40 mill for Ox
12 mill for Coq
20 mill for Theo
And we might be getting cash for Alexis after all, and there's still a couple of weeks left so don't rule out selling Ozil for a few quid.

See?

Someone needs to check and verify this supposed economic degree Wenger has.

[Niall_Quinn]

But who benefits from this cash?

Thank you for your interest in their affairs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Someone needs to check and verify this supposed economic degree Wenger has.

He went to the same college as Alan Greenspan.

[Bumble]

I think you are missing the point.

40 mill for Ox
12 mill for Coq
20 mill for Theo
And we might be getting cash for Alexis after all, and there's still a couple of weeks left so don't rule out selling Ozil for a few quid.

See?
Look we need a sound financial footing so that down the line when the stadium is paid off. We can pay the wages like teams like Bayern and Real. Now is not that time. So we just need to be patient.

[Cripps]

Le Grove made an interesting point. Notice how Ox is fit and uninjured at Liverpool? He was in the treatment room constantly here.

[Özim]

Hey Zim, where are you reading the Malcom to Liverpool rumours? Honestly, if it is a straight choice between Arsenal and Liverpool I think most players would choose Liverpool at the moment.

I think Auba and Mkhi are the best we can hope for considering the state we are in, they are opportunist punts based on there indifferences they have with their current clubs. Don't get me wrong I agree that our approach in the transfer market is a disgrace for a club of our size, but we have literally been reduced to picking up the scraps. We can no longer entice even exciting young talents let alone established players, the likes of Lemar and Malcom prove that these players won't kick up a fuss to move here, I'm sure if the likes of United, City or even Liverpool were on there cases they would force a move.

I don't think we will win the Europa regardless, the competition is too fierce this year and whilst we are logically one of the better teams we aren't as good as Napoli or Atletico Madrid IMO.

Hey Selassie, here's the link:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/liverpool-transfer-news-arsenal-spurs-malcom-goalkeeper-latest-update-mignolet-a8163611.html

Reports saying Malcom has rejected our offer too.

[Cripps]

He's a grimandi suggestion apparently.

F*ck that.

[Ralpheroo72]

Aubameyang ain’t happening, and we’ve pissed off Dortmund to boot. We will likely grab Mickhi and lose Alexi$ and that’s about it. We are an awful club, transfers and contracts are shambolic.

[Cripps]

Dortmund's Michael Zorc on Wenger's comments over Aubameyang: "We find it disrespectful to speak about players of other clubs. There is no contact from #afc. We assume that is because Arsène Wenger has enough to do to take care of the performance of his own players.”

:doh: wenger

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I was hoping things would turn out to be different and more professional with the new guys in, Sven and Sandro, but it seems as long as Wenger remains there ther dithering around, farce and lack of any overall recruitment strategy will still remain.

[Cripps]

Arsene Wenger insists he will not quit Arsenal at end of the season https://t.co/IvlTh8rajQ

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Dortmund's Michael Zorc on Wenger's comments over Aubameyang: "We find it disrespectful to speak about players of other clubs. There is no contact from #afc. We assume that is because Arsène Wenger has enough to do to take care of the performance of his own players.”

:doh: wenger

They mention Wenger by name :haha:

He's done it again.

[GP]

Anyone care to mention exactly what it is Wenger has said?

[Niall_Quinn]

'We of course play the semi-final (of the Carabao Cup) next week and after we have the Europa League as well, which is another target, so we have to very quickly get over this transfer period because for us especially this period has been more disturbing than ever.


'Why? Because we have big players that are at the end of their contract and that is the first time that it happens, that we have such influential players close to the end of their contracts and it has been more destabilising than ever.'


He HATES the transfer window. His entire aim is to get through it without upsetting any of his Lego. He'd ban transfer windows in a flash if he could.

13 days to go and we're getting NOBODY in bar the Greek kid. I bet you we don't even get any of Utd's castoffs. I hear Utd have to pay Mkhitaryan a bung to leave in order to make up the wage shortfall at Arsenal. They're better off going for the straight cash deal and the only hurdle to that is our pretence we want a player in return. Fuck that, everyone knows we want the cash. And that's what we'll get, a big pile of cash and a bunch of excuses about how little bit difficult it is to find anyone.

They're doing it again, right under everyones' noses.

[Niall_Quinn]

Anyone care to mention exactly what it is Wenger has said?

All I have see in public so far is:

'I have nothing to add to that (a deal for Aubameyang). This kind of thing is better when it's secret, when you announce it is over the line. Nothing else is close.'

But then added:

'Yes (he would fit in) because a character can be very positive and very negative. Overall you look at the achievement of the player over his career.'

I suspect it's not what we have said, but rather what we have bid. Whatever happened has pissed Dortmund off and they've recalled the player for the Friday game after saying there was no way back for him.

[Marc Overmars]

Arsene Wenger insists he will not quit Arsenal at end of the season https://t.co/IvlTh8rajQ

:lol:

Exciting. :lol:

About as exciting as receiving a Lynx gift set for Christmas.

[Özim]

Honestly this club can't do anything right, why have we not made a reasonable bid if we're interested rather than annoying the club of the player.

Is this the same old same old where we make it known we might be interested in the player but never show what could be genuine intent. Joke of a club.

Can't stand this club these days, could have never imagined we could have turned into such a horrible, small time club all those years ago when Wenger joined.

[Cripps]

He HATES the transfer window. His entire aim is to get through it without upsetting any of his Lego. He'd ban transfer windows in a flash if he could.

13 days to go and we're getting NOBODY in bar the Greek kid. I bet you we don't even get any of Utd's castoffs. I hear Utd have to pay Mkhitaryan a bung to leave in order to make up the wage shortfall at Arsenal. They're better off going for the straight cash deal and the only hurdle to that is our pretence we want a player in return. Fuck that, everyone knows we want the cash. And that's what we'll get, a big pile of cash and a bunch of excuses about how little bit difficult it is to find anyone.

They're doing it again, right under everyones' noses.

That's his excuse lined up for when he grovels to Stan to stay.

Last year it was 'the media were at fault because they wound Arsenal fans up' and this year it'll be 'the transfer window destabilised us and needs to be banned'.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Le Grove made an interesting point. Notice how Ox is fit and uninjured at Liverpool? He was in the treatment room constantly here.

Not really rocket science, he has spent most of his time on the bench there

[Özim]

If we got rid of Sanchez and just got Mkhi, we lose again. Let's be honest Mkhi is unwanted, hasn't turned up for Man U, his stock is low, it's a rubbish swap if we don't bring anyone else that's decent in.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Most transfers go through the players agent rather than the club and with these kind of things you make agreements with them and the player on personal terms before you even contact the club because it makes them compelled to sell.

The agent probably got in touch with Arsenal oportunistically. If we have agreed personal terms with Aubemeyang, Dortmund’s protests aside they probably are more likely to sell than not.

[Cripps]

Yeah I also think it's a ploy to get more money. You can't go from 'he's a disrespectful fool he needs to go' to 'he can stay we actually like him'.

[dostoy]

All these players out including the best player Arsenal have had since RVP and maybe, maybe only a Utd misfit in.

Absolutely pathetic, Wenger should be sacked for so many reasons.

I hope Arsenal lose virtually every game now in the league and do not win the joke cup or the Europa league.

That might, just might, mean Wenger leaves in the summer but don't bank on it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Most transfers go through the players agent rather than the club and with these kind of things you make agreements with them and the player on personal terms before you even contact the club because it makes them compelled to sell.

The agent probably got in touch with Arsenal oportunistically. If we have agreed personal terms with Aubemeyang, Dortmund’s protests aside they probably are more likely to sell than not.

We have to pay them what they want first. Always the major and terminal sticking point when it involves us.

[Özim]

We have to pay them what they want first. Always the major and terminal sticking point when it involves us.

Don't worry, we've always got that trusty extra pound we can resort to using if our original bid isn't quite high enough, that usually does the trick!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Don't worry, we've always got that trusty extra pound we can resort to using if our original bid isn't quite high enough, that usually does the trick!

Lend me a screwdriver will need to wedge said pound coin out of the Sainsbury’s trolley

[Cripps]

Aubameyang is unexpectedly not with the Dortmund squad travelling to Berlin for tomorrow's game. https://t.co/dLionJTCNA

Wenger:bow:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Looks like Ozil is gonna sign a new deal, so thats some good news

[Marc Overmars]

If Ozil stays that probably means Wenget is staying on too. Bad news.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I think it’s more to do with living in London than Wenger thankfully

[Özim]

Also probably got to do with having no ambition, you'd have to have none to stay on this sinking ship.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The thing is Wenger is not going anywhere. So id rather we keep our best players than lose them in the hope that it will change the situation

[Niall_Quinn]

I think it’s more to do with living in London than Wenger thankfully

Plus he's not required or even expected to turn up to games, so that's got to be a big plus point for staying. Doubt any other club can match that perk.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Plus he's not required or even expected to turn up to games, so that's got to be a big plus point for staying. Doubt any other club can match that perk.

That’s true, plus he gets paid handsomely for it as well.


‘Stealing a living’

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Sounds like Dortmund are getting wound up over very little. Though Wenger might have not followed up saying its best to be silent with hinting to the contrary immediately after....

[Niall_Quinn]

The Mail really is a piece of shit fake newspaper.

This morning it announces Auba has been recalled for the Friday match against Hertha. This afternoon it says he's dropped, without ever referencing their earlier "news" that ran contrary. They just pronounce stuff and expect people to believe it, like all the shitty media. This is why Iraq can definitely have WMD, no question, and then it definitely doesn't, as we "always knew".

Fake news cunts.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dortmund can talk. Criticise someone for praising their player and before that had only recently publically slagged him off.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If Ozil stays that probably means Wenget is staying on too. Bad news.

Maybe he just wanted rid of Alexis. Or Theo.

[Cripps]

With Andy Carroll injured, Chelsea now looking at Peter Crouch | @MirrorFootball https://t.co/k2AaeSUYq7…

:haha: :haha:

[KSE Comedy Club]

I wonder who is third choice on their list?

What other striker is over 6ft?

Adebayor?

[Niall_Quinn]

With Andy Carroll injured, Chelsea now looking at Peter Crouch | @MirrorFootball https://t.co/k2AaeSUYq7…

:haha: :haha:

Fuck off.

Conte must have been put up to a dare, or something like that.

What's going on here. If they need a striker and Aubamayang is for ale then why are we still in the running?

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder who is third choice on their list?

What other striker is over 6ft?

Adebayor?

Obafemi Martins

[KSE Comedy Club]

Obafemi Martins:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fuck off.

Conte must have been put up to a dare, or something like that.

What's going on here. If they need a striker and Aubamayang is for ale then why are we still in the running?

For ale. :lol:

He must go to the same establishments as Iwobi.

[Niall_Quinn]

For ale. :lol:

He must go to the same establishments as Iwobi.

Total pubber.

[Cripps]

�� Arsene Wenger believes Arsenal fans will find it easier to accept Alexis Sanchez's switch to Man Utd than Robin van Persie's | ✍ @jamesolley https://t.co/gmTY2MbOA4

[Marc Overmars]

Easier to accept because now it’s clear the players are not the issue, it’s the club. That wasn’t the case in 2012, I was kidding myself with the RVP hate, he was only a pantomime villain. He left for exactly the same reasons as Alexis is now, the club is at a dead end.

6 years on, millions of pounds later and we’re in an even worse state than we were in 2012.

[Niall_Quinn]

Easier to accept because now it’s clear the players are not the issue, it’s the club. That wasn’t the case in 2012, I was kidding myself with the RVP hate, he was only a pantomime villain. He left for exactly the same reasons as Alexis is now, the club is at a dead end.

6 years on, millions of pounds later and we’re in an even worse state than we were in 2012.

Yup.

Fans' fault, tbf.

[Cripps]

Looks like conte is pretty much leaving this summer hence the bids for short term experienced players. Cheeky bid? Come on gazidis work your magic.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

�� Arsene Wenger believes Arsenal fans will find it easier to accept Alexis Sanchez's switch to Man Utd than Robin van Persie's | ✍ @jamesolley https://t.co/gmTY2MbOA4

And whose fault is that? You’ve lowered expectations so much with your facilitated bungling

[Özim]

�� Arsene Wenger believes Arsenal fans will find it easier to accept Alexis Sanchez's switch to Man Utd than Robin van Persie's | ✍ @jamesolley https://t.co/gmTY2MbOA4

He's out of contract in the summer, if anything fans are glad we're getting anything for him at all, plus standards have fallen, we're 2nd rate and 2nd rate teams sometimes lose their best player mid season to bigger clubs.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Zorc has confirmed that Auba is not part of the Dortmund squad for the match against Hertha Berlin because “his mind ain’t Right”

[Cripps]

John cross:

Fully expecting Sanchez and Mkhitaryan deals to be confirmed today (maybe not for 12 noon). Follow the live @MirrorFootball blog here: https://t.co/IokDW0eykP

If before 12 they can play at weekend

:popcorn:

[Özim]

Not really that excited about Mkhitaryan if I'm honest, he's just not performed at Man U and he's not a replacement for Sanchez and probably won't get many goals, we'll be a weaker side than we were right now.

Stinks of panic buying to me, we never wanted him enough to try and sign him before but now he's a castoff and we can pick him up without really paying we'll take him.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

If we get Aubemeyang him and Mhkytarian would be quite exciting for us.

[Marc Overmars]

In fairness, I think Auba and Mkhi is well beyond what we expected. If we can get those deals over the line you have to give credit to the club for doing the best they can to soften the Alexis blow.

[Özim]

Aubameyang would make me more excited, he's a proven goalscorer and him and Lacazette could be a great partnership. If we got both I'd be happy enough, as mentioned it's beyond what we expected.

Time will tell if it happens though, we've messed these kinda deals up time and time again trying to lowball clubs, we never seem to be able to conclude deals quickly.

Auba seems to want to leave, we have the money we should just offer what they want and be done with it. Still somewhat all panic buying though, we've never been remotely interested in either player.

[Özim]

All I'm hearing about Mikhi is how this guy could be another De Bruyne, Salah, Lukaku (no thanks) because Mourinho had them and let them go, one major difference, all those guys were young, whereas Mikhi is 28 he isn't going to get any better.

Granted he may turn out to be decent for us, but there's also plenty of examples of players who have left a club where they were a success and then failed to ever reproduce that form again, Falcoa, Torres to name just a couple.

He's a Man U cast off, they don't want him that's why we have a chance of getting him (just like Welbeck and Silvestre were), we never get their good players, only the players they don't want and the last two didn't work out very well.

Mikhi is obviously much more talented than those two, but whether he can ever reproduce the form he did for Dortmund remains to be seen. Fact is we've never wanted him, even though he's wanted to come, well that's until we've got little choice but to bring him in as we have no other options available, in addition we're losing our best player in a swap for him, not a good deal for us in reality (though I know he's almost out of contract, but that's just purely due to neglicence on our side).

Would Man City let us have De Bruyne in return for Ramsey?

I've got no problem with us bringing this guy in, it's a tough situation we've put ourselves in and now we just have to make the best of it we can, but what we shouldn't do is pretend this is a good deal, it isn't, he may turn out to be very good, but equally he could be as bad as he as been for Man U.

Aubameyang is different, he's a player who been on form and playing well and top class.

[Gooner23]

David Ornstein‏Verified account @bbcsport_david 48m48 minutes ago

No developments expected today on Sanchez/Mkhitaryan. Still work to do as currently Mkhitaryan deal hasn't moved on & could yet go either way. Arsenal hopeful on that + Aubameyang. Talks continue. Malcom off - meetings held but eventually deemed too inexperienced #AFC #MUFC #BVB

[KSE Comedy Club]

What a surprise :rolleyes:

We can't do anything quickly, have to spend days & days 'talking' and fucking about.

Its so amateurish :sulk:

[Özim]

Everything moves at a snails pace at this club, our negotiating team is just awful.

No real surprises, Malcom not coming, just "hopeful" on Aubameyang (I don't see the hold up he wants to come if you believe what you hear, Dortmund seem to be happy enough to selll again if you believe what you want to hear so why the delay?), and Mikhi/Sanchez deal being help up by us!

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis will be #7 at Utd and his shirt is being printed up for the store now.

If Wenger and Kroenke get away with this, if they bring in a couple of players and the fans jump on the joy wagon and forget how this has all happened before and how nothing has changed at this place regardless of which players are in the squad, then you have to give those fuckers their dues as consummate con-artists and place the blame for all this shit where it rightfully belongs - on the fans.

If the fans can be conned AGAIN, they deserve absolutely everything they get.

Over 4 years on from Ozil's signing, the very best we can hope for, the very best, is another lap on the bullshit transition loop. Except this time around we are out of the CL and hanging on in 6th and flirting with the status Wenger has been inexorably steering us to, mid table.

If the fans run out and start buying shirts and singing their heads off...

[dostoy]

I just cannot believe that Aubameyang would choose Arsenal.

Do not be surprised if it does not happen.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I just cannot believe that Aubameyang would choose Arsenal.

Do not be surprised if it does not happen.

He doesn't have anywhere else to go tbf, but he wants out of dortmund.

[KSE Comedy Club]

From what I can gather reading around, We haven't offered enough money for Auba (shock) and we want £10m on top of Mhiki for Sanchez.

So the usual dithering and low balling as we all expected.

Clearly we want some change from the £72m that we have made thus far.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Also Goal.com are reporting that we have agreed personal terms with both players

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/aubameyang-and-mkhitaryan-agree-personal-terms-with-arsenal/z660lpz20bho10b9tj7jmuab1

[Niall_Quinn]

I just cannot believe that Aubameyang would choose Arsenal.

Do not be surprised if it does not happen.

I don't believe for a second this deal will happen. This is Mbappe again. Who the hell believes it any more?

We've already bugged out of the Malcolm deal because of the price, no big thing because we couldn't have used the kid anyway no matter how good he is. Narrow escape for him.

So when the price on Aubameyang starts creeping up we'll run, like we always do, to the bargain bucket and root around in that. Or, more likely, we'll settle for a Mkhitaryan swap for our prize asset and try to claim some sort of victory from that.

Wenger would have to change his whole "system" for a player like Auba to work anyway. And that's not happening.

What the fuck is Wenger still doing here? All we had to do was sack the cunt last season and bring in a manager that would have encouraged Alexis to stay.

[Özim]

Also Goal.com are reporting that we have agreed personal terms with both players

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/aubameyang-and-mkhitaryan-agree-personal-terms-with-arsenal/z660lpz20bho10b9tj7jmuab1

That's the easy part, now we have to agree a fee with Dortmund and with our lowballing that will be a hard slog and could go haywire, meanwhile we're trying to get money plus a player who is under contract for a player who basicallly has 3 1/2 months left on his contract, talk about greedy!

[KSE Comedy Club]

That's the easy part, now we have to agree a fee with Dortmund and with our lowballing that will be a hard slog and could go haywire, meanwhile we're trying to get money plus a player who is under contract for a player who basicallly has 3 1/2 months left on his contract, talk about greedy!

Greedy & utter, shambolic, stupidity.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's the easy part, now we have to agree a fee with Dortmund and with our lowballing that will be a hard slog and could go haywire, meanwhile we're trying to get money plus a player who is under contract for a player who basicallly has 3 1/2 months left on his contract, talk about greedy!

Don't know about greedy. The club should always be looking to maximise the fees if we must lose the player. We've criticised them enough in the past for letting players go to cheaply.

The player is desperate to go, Utd seem absolutely desperate to sign him. So, when you leave aside how badly we fucked up the whole Alexis contract in the first place, we've been lucky to end up in a position where we have recovered a bit of bargaining power due to the desperation of the other parties. And we need to press that and take full advantage.

Of course if the extra 10 mill is just going to be added to Smaug's pile and not reused in the transfer window it makes no difference either way.

[Gooner23]

Aubameyang will slot nicely into our little bit almost signed starting XI

[KSE Comedy Club]

I think they will both sign, maybe that has partly why Ozil has decided to stay. But you know our strategy revolves around unnecessarily dragging it out until the last minute.

[Bumble]

I am stunned that Ozil might be signing a new contract... maybe he has just got bored of winning stuff

[dostoy]

All these players, including our best player, out and only a boy from Greece and a Utd cast off in return.

That is what will happen.

Its shambolic to say the least.

Fuck off Wenger.

[Cripps]

Chelsea looking at signing Crystal Palace striker Christian Benteke on loan to help top-four push https://t.co/VSzMK9ipAd

:haha:

:rose:

[Niall_Quinn]

Chelsea looking at signing Crystal Palace striker Christian Benteke on loan to help top-four push https://t.co/VSzMK9ipAd

:haha:

:rose:

Some sort of a troll going on there. They've basically targeted every shitheap in the league. Only Sanogo to go.

[Power n Glory]

I don't believe for a second this deal will happen. This is Mbappe again. Who the hell believes it any more?

We've already bugged out of the Malcolm deal because of the price, no big thing because we couldn't have used the kid anyway no matter how good he is. Narrow escape for him.

So when the price on Aubameyang starts creeping up we'll run, like we always do, to the bargain bucket and root around in that. Or, more likely, we'll settle for a Mkhitaryan swap for our prize asset and try to claim some sort of victory from that.

Wenger would have to change his whole "system" for a player like Auba to work anyway. And that's not happening.

What the fuck is Wenger still doing here? All we had to do was sack the cunt last season and bring in a manager that would have encouraged Alexis to stay.

Mbappe, Benzema....Lemar....I'll believe it when I see it.

[Cripps]

Mkhitaryan deal up to Raiola. If he agrees it happens, if doesn't it won't. No issue with #MUFC or player. To clarify on Malcolm, reason (among a few) #AFC out was price/value relative to experience - not inexperience alone. Not sure on #THFC reports but Pochettino is a huge fan


The fat pig to decide then.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Just seen a picture of Raiola

It’s uncanny - he’s exactly what you’d expect a fat greedy scumbag cunt to look like

[Niall_Quinn]

Mkhitaryan deal up to Raiola. If he agrees it happens, if doesn't it won't. No issue with #MUFC or player. To clarify on Malcolm, reason (among a few) #AFC out was price/value relative to experience - not inexperience alone. Not sure on #THFC reports but Pochettino is a huge fan


The fat pig to decide then.

The word "value" is always accompanied by the stench of Wenger.

[Niall_Quinn]

Just seen a picture of Raiola

It’s uncanny - he’s exactly what you’d expect a fat greedy scumbag cunt to look like

Doesn't say much about the player, if the agent's fee dictates his career. Who would we be signing? The player or the agent?

We have a quarter of a billion quid in the bank. We should tell this fat cunt Raiola to go and fuck himself, tell Utd it's 30 mill, take it or leave it, and then identify a world class defender, a world class DM and put in bids that can't be refused. This isn't about the money. That other period, during the stadium move, was about the money. This period is about putting a world class team on the pitch to grace a world class stadium and push things forward to compete with the likes of Bayern. That was the plan. That was the deal and if the current lot can't get it done they should fuck off too.

Once the DM and the defender is signed, then we secure Ozil and Jack and go to Dortmund with a one time and final, no negotiating, 70 mill bid for Aubameyang. That's it, one bid, and if Dortmund ask for a penny more we move on to the next target. 12 days to go, no time to fuck around.

Oh, I just woke up. I was having a lovely dream about supporting a proper football club.

[AFC Leveller]

Raiola is a fat cunt who will get what he wants in the end of the deal is off.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'd love to know how Mkhitaryan will fit in if he arrives on his supposed 200k per week deal. A Utd reject on more than twice what Jack is paid, after his pay cut? The same Jack who should be captain? How's that going to work? How does that fit into Wenger's communist plan?

Surely Jack can't stay under the terms he's been offered? I think we're going to lose him too. I know some people won't be much bothered by that, but think how limited this squad is in terms of ambitious, aggressive and committed players. And creative ones. Could we afford to lose Alexis and Jack in one hit? Don't think so. Coquelin gone too, btw. And Ox, another player who at least knew which end we were suppose to be shooting at.

If anything, Wenger is doubling down on his tippety tap comaball regime.

[Niall_Quinn]

Raiola is a fat cunt who will get what he wants in the end of the deal is off.

He's like a banker or a lawyer or a senior civil servant or any of the other useless cunts who skim off working people. Shit like this rises to the top. Convenient for them, lazy of us to let it happen.

[AFC Leveller]

Mkhitarian is on 140k at Man U, ornstein confirmed it the other day. I don't think he will get 200k here but apparently that's what his agent wants and he knows we are desperate.

Good point about Jack being offered a new deal on less money, he is our future captain and should not be paid a lot less than the big earners.

[Cripps]

Exclusive @Carra23 column: Arsenal are crying out for change - and Antonio Conte is the man to deliver it https://t.co/LyH8XSVqTY

Completely agree

Come on ivan:bow:

[Özim]

If the agent is deciding if he signs on doesn't say much about the players desire to play for us, surely a player who wanted to play for us would just tell his agent he's moving.

[Cripps]

Exclusive: Tearful Henrikh Mkhitaryan says goodbye to Man United teammates as Alexis Sanchez deal moves closer to completion https://t.co/JzRQ808g8y via @MailSport

[Özim]

Don't know about greedy. The club should always be looking to maximise the fees if we must lose the player. We've criticised them enough in the past for letting players go to cheaply.

The player is desperate to go, Utd seem absolutely desperate to sign him. So, when you leave aside how badly we fucked up the whole Alexis contract in the first place, we've been lucky to end up in a position where we have recovered a bit of bargaining power due to the desperation of the other parties. And we need to press that and take full advantage.

Of course if the extra 10 mill is just going to be added to Smaug's pile and not reused in the transfer window it makes no difference either way.

It's greedy in a sense that actually he's worth next to nothing seeing as he can walk free in the summer, but IMO we should just get this done as quickly as possible now, no more wasting time haggling.

This has been an absolute car crash and we've just been very very lucky Man U are willing to pay now, even City weren't, it's just pot luck, Wenger being lucky again basically. We'll probably screw this up in some way by settling for Mikhi a player who is a cast off for our best player.

Considering what's gone on, any other club would be hurrying to get the situation sorted and players signed pronto to minimise discontent, instead as usual this club drags it heels, in the end it might be too long and we may well miss out on these players we're supposedly after.

We've heard these kinda of rumours many times before, often seems like some sort of marketing ploy to sell season tickets or reduce discontent, rarely to any of these deals for these players come to fruition, it appears like we just want people to think we're after these players and just missing due to circumstances, most of the time the fans buy it, so why wouldn't they try again, we have Chuba Akpom after all.

[Marc Overmars]

Exclusive: Tearful Henrikh Mkhitaryan says goodbye to Man United teammates as Alexis Sanchez deal moves closer to completion https://t.co/JzRQ808g8y via @MailSport

Tears that he's being forced to play for us? Understandable.

[dostoy]

Exclusive @Carra23 column: Arsenal are crying out for change - and Antonio Conte is the man to deliver it https://t.co/LyH8XSVqTY

Completely agree

Come on ivan:bow:

I would love to see Wenger out full stop but I would love it even more if Conte became Arsenal manager.

I like him and he would do well here but then anyone is better than Wenger almost literally.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Not sure I’m that sold on Conte. He’s good but anyone is an upgrade on Wenger these days

[Cripps]

Conte would be excellent.

Tactically good, can motivate, psychologically strong.

Yes please.

[AFC Leveller]

For anyone who says gazidis is Wenger's boss, this was 5 years ago but still confirms that wenger is top dog.(when we were about to sell rvc)

Formal discussions between Arsenal and United began immediately, with Gazidis and United chief executive David Gill agreeing a fee of £22.5m on Tuesday, only for it to be vetoed by Wenger as he held out for £25m.

[Özim]

Tears that he's being forced to play for us? Understandable.

The guy doesn't even want to come here, this despite being an Arsenal fan and having wanted to play for us in the past, he'd rather stay at Man U but they don't want him.

Just shows how our stock has fallen, even a cast off of Man U isn't keen on coming and is only doing so because his club have told him he's got no future, his agent is making the decision about the move apparently as well.

Petit thinks he's not right for us, he's another player with a weak mentality and we've got plenty of those and not the type of player we should be looking at. I guess with panic buys you get what you can though.

Really you only want to have players who want to be here and have some character and fight about them.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Of course he doesn't want to come, this is why player swaps rarely happen.

[Cripps]

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is getting ever closer to joining #Arsenal. Dortmund chief Michael Zorc is set to arrive in London tomorrow to finalise the transfer #AFC
https://t.co/RDtnuiGx4N

[Niall_Quinn]

The guy doesn't even want to come here, this despite being an Arsenal fan and having wanted to play for us in the past, he'd rather stay at Man U but they don't want him.

Just shows how our stock has fallen, even a cast off of Man U isn't keen on coming and is only doing so because his club have told him he's got no future, his agent is making the decision about the move apparently as well.

Petit thinks he's not right for us, he's another player with a weak mentality and we've got plenty of those and not the type of player we should be looking at. I guess with panic buys you get what you can though.

Really you only want to have players who want to be here and have some character and fight about them.

What, like Jack? The guy Wenger offered a pay cut to?

Clearly Wenger doesn't want any characters and fighters here. They upset the happy little yes family.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang is getting ever closer to joining #Arsenal. Dortmund chief Michael Zorc is set to arrive in London tomorrow to finalise the transfer #AFC
https://t.co/RDtnuiGx4N

"Agreed a fee" are the magic words. When we hear that then it becomes a possibility.

[Cripps]

Exodus of Arsenal's superstars suggests players are losing faith in Arsene Wenger | @JWTelegraph https://t.co/5HR0YbRkl5

[Cripps]

Alexis Sanchez has said his goodbyes and left team hotel after dramatic late development in transfer saga tonight. Arsenal star set for Man United switch https://t.co/Jo5hOrPcBt

[Özim]

Alexis Sanchez has said his goodbyes and left team hotel after dramatic late development in transfer saga tonight. Arsenal star set for Man United switch https://t.co/Jo5hOrPcBt

Apparently doing two separate deals now, how is that any different? The only difference might be that we can sell Sanchez and then spend the next couple weeks trying to sign a player not interested in coming (which clearly is the sticking point in this deal) and then find we don't get him at all, that would be just like us.

Noone wants to come to this club anymore, it's a joke.

[AFC Leveller]

This aubameyang talk is looking like bullshit fed from the club to the press. No way would we sign another number 9 when we already have Laca and possibly spending big on Mkhi.

I wouldn't be surprised if our attacking trio for the foreseeable future is Iwobi-Welbeck-Laca.

[Penguin]

The fact that Dortmund still haven't officially heard from us is worrying. If we were serious about it the negotiations would have started a long time ago. It's not happening guys.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don't think it's bullshit.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I don't think it's bullshit.

I agree, I am sure there is something going on with the transfer but it’s our usual haggling process that is holding things up

[Niall_Quinn]

Another stunt designed to distract from the enormous fuck-up that is happening with this squad. And even if it wasn't bullshit, WTF? We need a defender and a DM. Why the fuck would we be in for a striker that is reliant on pace? We don't play any sort of a system that would suit him. It would be a massive waste of money and a wasted end to the player's career, languishing at a club that has no chance of making the CL or competing at the top level domestically. What a suicidal move, unless he's already packed in football mentally and just wants the London lights. Aubameyang makes no sense for any party, he can get a move in the summer to a club that can use him and where he can expect to pick up some medals. And we may have to send Bif the other way? Madness. Bif may be a static lump but at least he's used to Wenger's tragic antics and can fit in with the "style" we play. More so than Lacazette, it seems, who Wenger has no clue how to use and will surely now have realised what a mistake it was to arrive at this dead end.

We can't even get the Mkhitaryan deal done without fucking around. Yes, agents are unspeakably greedy cunts and should all be killed. Everyone knows that. But they are a reality that has to be dealt with. Just throw the cash at the pig and get on with it. It has to happen anyway if we want the player. But do we want him? As a body filler I suppose. But as our highest paid player? Our new star, plucked out of a Manchester dustbin?

And what was the Malcolm thing all about? He's signed, not signed, we're leading the chase, oh dear, we have to pay money? Another one bites the dust.

Where did the money from the Ox transfer go? Everyone should be demanding an answer to that question.

And Wenger is in the papers this morning claiming Jack is a leader and he wants him to stay. Well way to go arsehole, pissing on him in public. Setting him up with a deal that's equivalent to your typical Manc pub contract for C grade bench material. How's that going to work out. Jack is 26, could earn twice what's on offer here and could be pinning down an International spot and competing for trophies. Or he could stay here and take Theo's spot as another Wenger waste project.

There's only one deal we should be taking care of in this window. Getting Wenger out. But it won't happen and so everything else is irrelevant. Personally I hope he's not allowed anywhere near the chequebook.

[Cripps]

He's like a banker or a lawyer or a senior civil servant or any of the other useless cunts who skim off working people. Shit like this rises to the top. Convenient for them, lazy of us to let it happen.

Or people that work at the British council.

[AFC Leveller]

Aubameyang was again left out last night by Dortmund. He was pictured playing in a 5 a side game with his mate, wearing a Dembele top (the fella who went on striker to get his Barca move). Odd guy this Aubameyang.

[KSE Comedy Club]

It’s being reported that we have now made a bid of 50m euros & Dortmund have confirmed.

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/715426/artikel_aubameyang_arsenal-legt-erstes-angebot-vor.html?ddt=1

[AFC Leveller]

CEO Watzke: "I can confirm Arsenal have made an enquiry, the figure has been named in England and we won't comment."

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I suspect we ideally wanted to wait till Sanchez was confirmed....which might have been why Dortmund were claiming something official hadn't been tabled.

[Master Splinter]

WUMger on Cashlexis Cuntchez:



"You cannot drive up north and as well play football."


:haha:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

WUMger on Cashlexis Cuntchez:



:haha:

You can you just won’t do either particularly well

[Cripps]

Sanchez gone

Manchester United complete £35m signing of Alexis Sanchez from Arsenal after clubs finalise terms for Mkhitaryan's move the other way

Story 👉 https://t.co/LIBASwTC1W https://t.co/w9FqHFhzdh

[Niall_Quinn]

Sanchez gone

Manchester United complete £35m signing of Alexis Sanchez from Arsenal after clubs finalise terms for Mkhitaryan's move the other way

Story �� https://t.co/LIBASwTC1W https://t.co/w9FqHFhzdh

This will be unbearable in the media. They won't bother with azzzaahhhhhh any more, Alexis will be the new Messi for sure. Finally (for them) he's at the right club.

[Cripps]

Breaking news: Letters has moved from the Currants thread to the Arsenal section

:faint:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm still confused by how it works of it being £35 million and Mkhitaryan, it's not that surely?

[Özim]

Wenger said nothing is happening with Aubameyang, looks like some nobody from Greece and a Man U reject is the only coming. Bunch of losers.


Wenger also said "nothing is happening" with his side's interest in Borussia Dortmund striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.

The 28-year-old Gabon striker was left out as his side drew 1-1 at Hertha Berlin on Friday, but Wenger said: "Aubameyang, no.

"He can be left out of the Dortmund team for different reasons, certainly not for transfer reasons at the moment."

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenger said nothing is happening with Aubameyang, looks like some nobody from Greece and a Man U reject is the only coming. Bunch of losers.

Well tbf, he’s not gonna say anything now after pissing them off the other day :lol:

[Özim]

Well tbf, he’s not gonna say anything now after pissing them off the other day :lol:

I'd say he doesn't care what people think, just look at what he comes out with about refs, fans etc

I reckon this one won't happen and we'll end up with Mkhitaryan who doesn't want to come here and frankly I don't want here either, no fight in him, he's a reject and to be honest just totally the wrong type of player and certainly can't replace Sanchez.

Sick of this club, everything about it is 2nd rate.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wenger said nothing is happening with Aubameyang, looks like some nobody from Greece and a Man U reject is the only coming. Bunch of losers.

It's amazing that you hang on to his every word.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I'd say he doesn't care what people think, just look at what he comes out with about refs, fans etc

I reckon this one won't happen and we'll end up with Mkhitaryan who doesn't want to come here and frankly I don't want here either, no fight in him, he's a reject and to be honest just totally the wrong type of player and certainly can't replace Sanchez.

Sick of this club, everything about it is 2nd rate.
Zim come on mate, you should know by now not to believe a word that comes out of wenkers mouth.

He talks bucketfuls of horseshit every time he gets the chance.