Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
I was agreeing with you until i saw that, i think that comment shows a genuine disparity between what i would call the Wengerskeptics. I myself am a realist, i know he is with us until 2017 and there is nothing that will change that, people like myself acknowledge that it is incredibly unlikely that the romantic notion of Wenger going out on a high with one final title win is just unrealistic, but i still say he is no worse than Van Gaal or Pellegrini....both of them are for me absolute dinosaurs who are tactically deficient. But in order to beat the odds rather than hide behind them, we need someone young and fresh who is willing to delegate, take on new ideas and take risks.
There are those who i'm afraid to say you count as, that with Wenger familiarity breeds contempt that they are so desperate for change that almost anyone will do. Although the groundhog season grates (and yes i agree an FA cup doesn't count as marked improvement) the idea that most managers could have kept us in the top four season in season out is disingenuous and false.
Where i agree with you is that Wenger has hit a glass ceiling, he hasn't the ability to make the leap that changes us from top four to perenial title challengers and eventual title winners, football has changed and he hasn't...and he's very much yesterday's man.
Where i don't agree with you is that a mid table manager like Pulis on the back of one or two positive results against Mourinho would have done better, we can do better than Wenger i don't doubt that we can but anyone or anything is not better.
Good thing i left that comment till last now. maybe the Pulis bit is fanciful, but realistically and analytically. If you examine it, Most teams end up where they're financial clout says they should be. It would take a really crap manager to take us from 4th to 6th or a monumental leap for Spurs or Pool to overtake us. We cannot stay in eternal purgatory waiting for Wenger to relent and say adieu. Is there any guarantee that either he or silent Sam wont agree to let it roll, on beyond 2017. If we only discussed here what is actually possible, we would not discuss anything, At least on these boards we can steer our team beyond the last 16 of the CL and consistently challenging for the league. Wenger should be appreciated for what he has done but he is not the only manager who can do what he has done, or maybe improve us. Even looking at Pulis, he is exactly the kind of manager Arsenal used to hire before Dein went to Japan to select a manager no one had heard of. We may not get the manager we want. Does that mean we stick with what we have in perpetuity.?