Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
There is, however, a valid point in what Joker says. Our manager / board are the only one's around who openly admit that 4th place is an achievement.

Whilst it is, in a way, it doesn't sound ambitious for a club of our stature. It is one of the things which has really irked me over the last few years. Whilst the sentiment is correct, the message it sends out to fans, players, other clubs and potential signings is not a message of an ambitious club.
Yep is a silly statement to make agreed, But i highly doubt Wenger would dare take 4th over the winning a cup no way. It seems something they say when they feel all hope is lost.

and it will be nonsense to think Wenger would have been happy at not winning a thing in the last 7 years regardless of what he says.