Match reaction vs. Everton

[Power n Glory]

There comes a time for everyone, even Wenger, when pigheaded goes out the window because you have to rescue a serious situation. It's inconceivable a professional would sit there and take hammering after hammering and think any minute now it will all change. It's not a reasonable or realistic theory to be putting forward. I really don't see why the players get such an easy ride, barring the usual targets who are no worse than the rest. Arteta being a prime example. Questions need to be asked about the desire of some of these guys. Like Cazorla and Podolski who routinely throw their full backs under the bus. Or Giroud when the ball doesn't arrive fast enough so he gives up on trying to find the run or the space and just stands there like a lemon. Or Monreal when time and again he leaves the space and gets badly exposed and doesn't have the pace to compensate. Does he not see things happening on the pitch at all? And Rosicky when he has space, looks up, find his man, and passes to the opposition. Or Sagna when he has time to put the cross in and balloons it. There's a fair degree of panic on display from this lot when teams come to close us down. They lack composure and yet supposedly this is the sort of stuff we practise on the training ground over and over. How many times has our passing gone to hell this season? Passing used to be the one thing we could manage with some degree of proficiency. If the argument is Wenger refuses to change you have to then assume he's using the same methods to train the players. And if he's using the same methods and up until recently we could pass a ball, then what's up with this lot? You can say yes, Wenger signed them, so he takes responsibility for that. But what about the responsibility a player should take for not being able to pass the ball 5 yards? We don't play the same tactics every game either - that's just one of those cosy little criticisms that doesn't hold up if you watch the games. Sometimes we press, sometimes we don't. Sometimes we play high, sometimes we don't. Now if you're saying we seem to vary it in the wrong way for the given opponent, it does seem to be that way at least some of the time. Other times we get it spot on though.

How many times can you blame the players? We’ve seen the same sort of collapse under every single captain since leaving Highbury. All different players and they all seem to have this confidence problem where they forget how to play for some reason. Are you saying we’re that unlucky? You soon have to start looking at the manager and questioning his methods when it keeps happen under multiple teams. If you look back at the 2008 collapse, only Flamini, Rosicky and Walcott were present in that team from this current crop. We’ve had a complete makeover in personnel. It does seem inconceivable that a professional would sit there and take hammering after hammering but it happens and it happens quite often with Wenger. Why not make a few changes if it’s the players fault?

Tell me what you saw tactically different to what we saw against Chelsea? We haven’t pressed teams in months and we’ve been playing a dangerous highline for a while now. The team selection has practically been the same and teams have won by hitting us on the break after losing possession high up the pitch.

[Niall_Quinn]

How many times can you blame the players? We’ve seen the same sort of collapse under every single captain since leaving Highbury. All different players and they all seem to have this confidence problem where they forget how to play for some reason. Are you saying we’re that unlucky? You soon have to start looking at the manager and questioning his methods when it keeps happen under multiple teams. If you look back at the 2008 collapse, only Flamini, Rosicky and Walcott were present in that team from this current crop. We’ve had a complete makeover in personnel. It does seem inconceivable that a professional would sit there and take hammering after hammering but it happens and it happens quite often with Wenger. Why not make a few changes if it’s the players fault?

Tell me what you saw tactically different to what we saw against Chelsea? We haven’t pressed teams in months and we’ve been playing a dangerous highline for a while now. The team selection has practically been the same and teams have won by hitting us on the break after losing possession high up the pitch.

Spuds match - not pretty but different for sure. Admittedly these are just facts.