The Bitter Truth?

[Bumble]

People always say wenger is good with money but often overlook the ridiculous contracts we have our players on. if you pay a big fee and they dont work out you can always sell them on if there salary is sensible. If a player is on huge wages already then it is alot harder for them to move on and only do so at the end of their contract so giving us no value at all. Wenger has mismanaged the wages for years.

If we finish 4th that isnt an underachievement as that is where we should finish, although at the start of the season if you said United were struggling for a European place then you would have thought we would at least be 3rd. Liverpool are a surprise. Everton are not better than us, but they are younger and have a better future than our squad where there are mainly late 20s and early 30s. They also use the loan market well, so instead of Wenger moaning about it why doesnt he try to exploit it more.

[Letters]

The point about wages is spot on. Wenger rewards players far too young before they've really achieved anything.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

People always say wenger is good with money but often overlook the ridiculous contracts we have our players on. if you pay a big fee and they dont work out you can always sell them on if there salary is sensible. If a player is on huge wages already then it is alot harder for them to move on and only do so at the end of their contract so giving us no value at all. Wenger has mismanaged the wages for years.

If we finish 4th that isnt an underachievement as that is where we should finish, although at the start of the season if you said United were struggling for a European place then you would have thought we would at least be 3rd. Liverpool are a surprise. Everton are not better than us, but they are younger and have a better future than our squad where there are mainly late 20s and early 30s. They also use the loan market well, so instead of Wenger moaning about it why doesnt he try to exploit it more.

I agree i think Wenger has overspent in the last ten years considering our finances

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

You still don’t get it. It’s boarding on paranoia. This perceived threat from big clubs looking to poach our players is non-existent. We’re not batting off bids from clubs left right and centre like we used to because we have no outstanding candidates. Wilshere, Ramsey and Walcott can’t get into Chelsea or City’s teams. There is no threat from them. We don’t have to pre-empt any bids with inflated wages because that bid isn’t coming unless they perform on the field. Even if that day were to come, what we’re currently paying won’t keep them if they wanted out. And if they wanted out, it wouldn’t be down to the wages. Also, you’ve already said those clubs can’t bid £200k for players because of FFP. These players haven’t done enough to warrant bids from rival clubs or done enough to the extent we’re we need to sweat about what they’re paid.

What did Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell do exactly to be worth a bid from Man City?. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them are on wages near to 100k at city, our players may not be of the quality to deserve 100k but it keeps the top clubs from signing them. Bayern Munich used to do it all the time, they buy the players not because they want that player but because it destabilises rivals.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The point about wages is spot on. Wenger rewards players far too young before they've really achieved anything.

Depends on whom your referring to really, if your talking about Wilshere he's on 55k a week and Raheem Sterling who is 19 is on 60k a week at Liverpool. It's not Wenger, that's the money culture in the sport.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And i am sorry to keep referring back to Liverpool, but the token Liverpool fan who comes on here claims that their wage bill is smaller than ours.

Suarez - 200k a week
Gerrard - 140k a week
Jordan Henderson - 70k a week
Lucas Leiva - 65k a week
Jose Enrique - 65k a week
Glen Johnson - 85k a week
Daniel Sturridge - 70k a week
Kolo Toure - 75k a week
Joe Allen - 50k a week
Raheem Sterling - 60k
Agger - 75k a week
Skrtel - 80k a week

Still think ours is bigger?

[Power n Glory]

What did Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell do exactly to be worth a bid from Man City?. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them are on wages near to 100k at city, our players may not be of the quality to deserve 100k but it keeps the top clubs from signing them. Bayern Munich used to do it all the time, they buy the players not because they want that player but because it destabilises rivals.

You're still not getting this. If City were to bid for Ramsey, do you think we'd be able to stretch our wages even more to ward them off?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

You're still not getting this. If City were to bid for Ramsey, do you think we'd be able to stretch our wages even more to ward them off?

Yes because they won't want to pay him 150k-200k just to spite us, where as if he was still on 50k a week they would pay him 100k a week to spite us

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

And i am sorry to keep referring back to Liverpool, but the token Liverpool fan who comes on here claims that their wage bill is smaller than ours.

Suarez - 200k a week
Gerrard - 140k a week
Jordan Henderson - 70k a week
Lucas Leiva - 65k a week
Jose Enrique - 65k a week
Glen Johnson - 85k a week
Daniel Sturridge - 70k a week
Kolo Toure - 75k a week
Joe Allen - 50k a week
Raheem Sterling - 60k
Agger - 75k a week
Skrtel - 80k a week

Still think ours is bigger?

I said that from the last set of accounts (2012/13) your wage bill for both staff and players was larger.
http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files..._-_Annual_.pdf - page 46.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/210342664/...ompanies-House - page 17.

How they stack up as of right now I don't know.

[Power n Glory]

Yes because they won't want to pay him 150k-200k just to spite us, where as if he was still on 50k a week they would pay him 100k a week to spite us

And why wouldn't we be able to match those wages?