Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
You can say it as many times as you like, if a club was trying to finance a stadium move than constant 4th place finishes would be welcome.

When a club is looking to secure it's long term finances, it's going to mean very little to it to challenge for the title and finish a close second only to finish 6th or 7th the next season.

The difference now is the finances are secure and things still aren't getting better, and we have an arrogant trilobyte who thinks the club owes him a living. There is absolutely no reason to give him a contract extension now, but three years ago especially it would not have been unreasonable to say well you had to sell some of your best players in the past and you've still made top four, you can spend now and you have three seasons to take the club on (i didn't think it was a good idea as i thought he had too many deficiencies as a manager).

The damning inditement is that the club has had three years to plan for moving on from Wenger and it's made no attempt to give him less power or get a succession in place (and i agree this is part and parcel of a lack of ambition shown by Stan Kroenke as treating the club as an asset in his property portfolio)

With the exception of Gerard Houllier in 2004, have either liverpool or spurs sacked a manager for finishing in the top four?. And in fact haven't liverpool sacked managers more on the basis of failure to qualify for the competition?

If you were honestly expecting Wenger to be sacked prior to 2014, i would say it's just as well you don't run a large business yourself.
What so Spurs are going to settle for 4th now they are financing the stadium, I doubt it very much personally, besides the rubbish we were fed about the stadium was lies, we were told the team wouldn't suffer, that there's no point having a world class stadium without a world class team playing in it...this club is setup to make money and that's al lit cares about, other clubs however see success as a way of growing and thus see success as the goal.

Other managers like Houllier didn't settle for top 4, they want to win trophies, conequently they gambled, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, fact is no other manager would just settle like Wenger has, he's very odd like that, winning doesn't matter that much in the grand scheme of things to him, he prefers to make money for the club and indulge in pet projects. Liverpool sack managers on the basis they aren't seeing progress no on the fact they don't qualify for the CL, at the end of the day if you qualify every season there comes a time when people will ask where is the improvement, noone settles for being 2nd best, you start somewhere and try to improve, just like Spurs are trying to do.