Ok, you seem to know that most of the 'names' mentioned on here have faded away. Who are the others that haven't who are worth trying out? You're alluding to knowing a list of names built up by people on here, aware that some have failed, so there must be one or two that you've heard of that still have their credentials intact. Otherwise you'd say all the managers mentions have crash and burned.

I'm asking again because your reaction to Klopp seems to be more of a reaction against posters digging at you, rather than the sort of 'balanced' argument you say you provide for Wenger. The easiest thing to do is dismiss something without any alternative suggestion.