Super Super Quality Transfer Speculation & Shit

[Niall_Quinn]

I think we're just going to have to ride with it, we all know how Wenger...errrr I mean the Board operates. Our rivals will spend, we won't, we'll finish 3rd/4th and call it a success.

Happy Days

Our board operates just like Chelseas. Di Matteo (even though he's not confirmed as manager) tells Abramovich what's happening and Abramovich is too weak to stand up to him. Same at Arsenal, Wenger controls all the money and the board is helpless. If only we could get Wenger out then the board would be set free and they could pump the money into the team rather than suffering it all ending up in their bank accounts.

[Joker]

I think we're just going to have to ride with it, we all know how Wenger...errrr I mean the Board operates. Our rivals will spend, we won't, we'll finish 3rd/4th and call it a success.

Happy Days

Pretty much.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Signing players to improve on last season's showing isn't ambition apparently.

No, indeed it isn't, ambition is achieved through hard work.

[Kano]

No, indeed it isn't, ambition is achieved through hard work.
if they win a trophy next season then that would be a lot of hard work put in by the players.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

if they win a trophy next season then that would be a lot of hard work put in by the players.

We're talking about the money being spent, that isn't coming from the players.

[Kano]

We're talking about the money being spent, that isn't coming from the players.
the money doesn't guarantee achieving that ambition. granted it creates more chances but it is still nothing without the legwork of the players.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

You'd probably get it on a Chelsea forum too.

Funny that. . .wonder if GHELkinson is making their projected line up for us

[McNamara That Ghost...]

the money doesn't guarantee achieving that ambition. granted it creates more chances but it is still nothing without the legwork of the players.

I don't remember saying it did and not just because I didn't type those words but because I don't consider Abramovich's will ambition. You said it yourself, in another thread; shortcutting.

[Kano]

i don't remember saying that you said that either - those were my words if that is clear enough. shortcutting is not ambition but you won't reach your end goal without the work in sport. the players still need to go out and do their stuff.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

i don't remember saying that you said that either - those were my words if that is clear enough. shortcutting is not ambition but you won't reach your end goal without the work in sport. the players still need to go out and do their stuff.

Sure but Joker was talking about a very finite point, signing players.

[selassie]

You'd probably get it on a Chelsea forum too.
:d

[selassie]

Our board operates just like Chelseas. Di Matteo (even though he's not confirmed as manager) tells Abramovich what's happening and Abramovich is too weak to stand up to him. Same at Arsenal, Wenger controls all the money and the board is helpless. If only we could get Wenger out then the board would be set free and they could pump the money into the team rather than suffering it all ending up in their bank accounts.

Well my view isn't quite as extreme as that we're sitting on a billion pounds and Wenger is refusing to spend.

I do think we could and should spend more, I don't hold access to our accounts so can't claim to have more knowledge than anybody else but I do find it strange that a club of our size which generates millions every single season has to break even or in recent years make a profit from transfers each and every season.

Yes I know we have a loan and high expenditure but still.......

[fakeyank]

I bet during every transfer window, all the 12-15 year plays spunk their pants at the thought of being signed by Arsenal

[Munchies]

The main difference between Chelsea and us is that their owner actually feels joy and has ambition for his club, ie settling for nothing less than the greatest trophy that there currently is. He's ploughed loads of his own money, and just recently has started the rebuilding process, getting rid of dead wood like Kalou and replacing him with Hazard for £32 million and probably getting in Hulk for Drogba. Kroenke on the other hand is a mong who would rather we be trophyless for the next 10 years if it meant he could keep getting a good return. If we strengthened the squad each year with Arteta type signings for the past 7 years we'd not be as we are now. I dont know how our net spending looks but we've sold alot more than we've brought in, ie how much have we actually coffed up from within . I dont know if Wenger is constrained by the board though which has limited his spending.

[Syn]

If Ledley King can't get a new contract with Tottenham, and we manage to get rid of Djourou, Squillaci (send Miquel on loan), then if we can get King on board with cheap contract (£30k a week, say) then I very much think we should do it. I rate him very highly - as do some spud friends so I'm surprised, if that's the prevailing opinion, that he hasn't been offered a new contract. He is very injury prone and reliability is the main concern but there are no doubts about his ability as a defender IMO.

But that's only if: 1) we can get rid of Djourou and Squillaci, and 2) King accepts a cheap contract. Neither are very likely at all, I suppose.

In any case, I'm happy with the set of 4 CBs we have now: Vermaelen, Koscielny, Mertesacker and Miquel. I think Miquel has shown a lot of promise and, in contrast to Djouoru, Senderos and others we've given countless chances, he has always looked very composed and calm. You're never going to get a top CB as 4th choice so I think giving Miquel the odd game when necessary is fair. Other areas to improve first.

I still think, if by some miracle we are to make a big signing, the cash has to go to M'Vila or a similar defensive-mid. Any top DM will do. We leak far too many goals due to a lack of discipline in midfield and having Arteta and M'Vila/good DM as the 'sitters' (but not as useless going forward as Parker) we'll be in good shape. Ideally it'd be a fit Wilshere but otherwise I'm even happy for Song to get a crack at ACM where his maverick ways are less problematic.

[Power n Glory]

Well my view isn't quite as extreme as that we're sitting on a billion pounds and Wenger is refusing to spend.

I do think we could and should spend more, I don't hold access to our accounts so can't claim to have more knowledge than anybody else but I do find it strange that a club of our size which generates millions every single season has to break even or in recent years make a profit from transfers each and every season.

Yes I know we have a loan and high expenditure but still.......

It's not as if Wenger wouldn't break even when we were at Highbury. He's had reputation for getting value for money and making a profit from the transfer window since day one. It's part of the reason why we've been able to move stadiums.

Also, if we're in such a bad way with our finances, would it not make sense to keep our wage bill down and cut the number of players we have in our squad?

[fakeyank]

The main difference between Chelsea and us is that their owner actually feels joy and has ambition for his club, ie settling for nothing less than the greatest trophy that there currently is. He's ploughed loads of his own money, and just recently has started the rebuilding process, getting rid of dead wood like Kalou and replacing him with Hazard for £32 million and probably getting in Hulk for Drogba. Kroenke on the other hand is a mong who would rather we be trophyless for the next 10 years if it meant he could keep getting a good return. If we strengthened the squad each year with Arteta type signings for the past 7 years we'd not be as we are now. I dont know how our net spending looks but we've sold alot more than we've brought in, ie how much have we actually coffed up from within . I dont know if Wenger is constrained by the board though which has limited his spending.

How do you know Kroenke is not providing AW with reasonable funds? I remember Vinegar saying that if he was given 100 million to spend on players, he would return it back. I think that alone is enough to know who is responsible for spending our 'transfer war chest' on the team.

Besides Kroenke has been on board for 1 year as majority owner and a max of 2-3 years as a major player, so I do not see how we can blame him. May be PHW and the other old guard, but not Kroenke. And if these guys are actually putting a strain on AW in doing his job, he should just quit... simples!

[Syn]

Vertonghen says he's signing for the spuds in the next couple of days. Good ambition from him and hope he is able to ambition an impact next season.

[Cripps_orig]

Whats with all this ambition shit?

[Kano]

Whats with all this ambition shit?

sour grapes because city and chelsea are spending big money

[Özim]

Seeing other clubs spend money whilst we sit seemingly idle in the transfer market is very sad to be honest, the fact is other teams are showing that winning matters to them whilst we're showing that having a positive bank balance matters to us.

You might argue we're morally superior (though I'd say shafting the fans by charging them sky high season ticket prices whilst investing little is morally questionable) but where's the joy in having money in the bank? I'd much rather see a few top players come in and be excited to watch them play next season. Can't remember the last time I was excited about one of our signings to be honest.

In addition we seem to carry a whole lot of shite players, that not only increase our wage bill massively but that we don't seem to be able to get rid of, we offered them long term contracts without a 2nd thought and yet when it comes to our top players we argue about £5000 here and there, the transfer/contract side seems to be run by clowns to be honest, little that is done with regards this makes sense. A huge scouting network and yet we struggle to identify more than one player at a time.

[GP]

If Ledley King can't get a new contract with Tottenham, and we manage to get rid of Djourou, Squillaci (send Miquel on loan), then if we can get King on board with cheap contract (£30k a week, say) then I very much think we should do it.

Not sure if srs

[Syn]

Whats with all this ambition shit? A gag at the expense of some thick reasoning shown by a few.

[selassie]

It's not as if Wenger wouldn't break even when we were at Highbury. He's had reputation for getting value for money and making a profit from the transfer window since day one. It's part of the reason why we've been able to move stadiums.

Also, if we're in such a bad way with our finances, would it not make sense to keep our wage bill down and cut the number of players we have in our squad?

For sure, I think if we're all honest Wenger has made a bit of a mess of the squad in terms of the lack of quality when it comes to squad players and the high wage bill. It wouldn't be so bad if we had average players on low wages, unfortunately for us it's average players on high wages.

[Munchies]

Seeing other clubs spend money whilst we sit seemingly idle in the transfer market is very sad to be honest, the fact is other teams are showing that winning matters to them whilst we're showing that having a positive bank balance matters to us.

You might argue we're morally superior (though I'd say shafting the fans by charging them sky high season ticket prices whilst investing little is morally questionable) but where's the joy in having money in the bank? I'd much rather see a few top players come in and be excited to watch them play next season. Can't remember the last time I was excited about one of our signings to be honest.

In addition we seem to carry a whole lot of shite players, that not only increase our wage bill massively but that we don't seem to be able to get rid of, we offered them long term contracts without a 2nd thought and yet when it comes to our top players we argue about £5000 here and there, the transfer/contract side seems to be run by clowns to be honest, little that is done with regards this makes sense. A huge scouting network and yet we struggle to identify more than one player at a time.


I see where you're coming from. I mean the last player who we all genuinely felt excited about was Arshavin, and when he actually started playing great ie the goal v Blackburn / Anfield, we all were saying look what money can get you and he gave us a much needed boost at the time.

I think our scouting system is also a bit shit compared to other teams. Wenger always says he will spend if he sees 'the talent for the right price' , why not nick Alan Carr's dad from Newcastle, where he's the head scout ? Eg Cisse/Cabaye both are worth atleast double what Newcastle paid. Grimandi worked in France and found us Sagna, who was great for £6million, but we haven't found a decent player since. Gervinho hasn't shined so far.

[selassie]

A gag at the expense of some thick reasoning shown by a few.

How can you gag people when this is a message board? If people have differing opinions so be it. I really don't understand the "snide" pack of wolves mentality when it comes to differing opinions. Especially when it's done sitting in front of a computer screen.

[GP]

How can you gag people when this is a message board? If people have differing opinions so be it. I really don't understand the "snide" pack of wolves mentality when it comes to differing opinions. Especially when it's done sitting in front of a computer screen.

No, gag, as in joke.

[Syn]

How can you gag people when this is a message board? If people have differing opinions so be it. .

I don't think you understood what I meant as in 'gag'. It's the usual practice on here with many geeky in-jokes. It's not supposed to hurt in any case. I'm sure those 'crying about 'crying' can take it.

And btw, I have no problem with different opinions so long as they're not stupid.

[selassie]

No, gag, as in joke.

Ok I'll :getcoat:

Fairplay, but I still think it destroys any potentially interesting debate when you have a bunch of folks playing "internet hardman" if they don't agree with others opinion.

[selassie]

I don't think you understood what I meant as in 'gag'. It's the usual practice on here with many geeky in-jokes. It's not supposed to hurt in any case. I'm sure those 'crying about 'crying' can take it.

And btw, I have no problem with different opinions so long as they're not stupid.

Yes I initially thought gag as in keep quiet, but it's gag as in joke. Maybe I don't post on here enough these days, but I never remembered it being like this a few years ago...maybe I'm too serious, I don't know, I just like to talk about Arsenal topics on the Arsenal FC debate page.

[Munchies]

Also Ronaldinho is a free agent now although he is way past it. :penguin:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Venkys-500x329.jpg

[Syn]

Yes I initially thought gag as in keep quiet, but it's gag as in joke. Maybe I don't post on here enough these days, but I never remembered it being like this a few years ago...maybe I'm too serious, I don't know, I just like to talk about Arsenal topics on the Arsenal FC debate page.

I think GW has always been geeky like this. The difference now is that there aren't many people who have anything original or thought-provoking to say. For the past month, almost every discussion has come down to whether Wenger is refusing to spend or whether the board isn't making money available. Almost every single one. And there are people, foolishly, taking definite sides of the spectrum when we obviously don't have a clue what's going on. You could argue there is nothing interesting to say because nothing new is happening. But the whole 'wenger vs the board' thing has been done to death.

[Özim]

F*ck all ever happens at this club, why anyone would be surprised there's nothing to talk about is beyond me. Watching paint drying is more exciting.

No real surprise though, giving the fans something back is irrelevant.

[Lord Nelson]

F*ck all ever happens at this club, why anyone would be surprised there's nothing to talk about is beyond me. Watching paint drying is more exciting.

No real surprise though, giving the fans something back is irrelevant.

Agreed! To make it worse, the Spuds are about to sign Jan Vertonghen from Ajax. I thought we were after him? FFS Arsenal! Wake up !!!

[mastermind84]

Agreed! To make it worse, the Spuds are about to sign Jan Vertonghen from Ajax. I thought we were after him? FFS Arsenal! Wake up !!!
why would Vertonghen come to Arsenal over Spurs?

I dont think a segment Arsenal fans are actually thinking about this from his POV. At Tottenham, he will probably get in as a first team player from day one. They are a moderately sized club who are hovering around the champions league spots and would have gotten it were it not for a fluke win by Chelsea.

At Arsenal, he would be competing with 3 other international players including his teammate who he is not starting in front of for Belgium currently at centerback. He would probably be paid around the same too. For footballing reasons, I get why Arsenal were never in the running for him.

[Lord Nelson]

why would Vertonghen come to Arsenal over Spurs?

I dont think a segment Arsenal fans are actually thinking about this from his POV. At Tottenham, he will probably get in as a first team player from day one. They are a moderately sized club who are hovering around the champions league spots and would have gotten it were it not for a fluke win by Chelsea.

At Arsenal, he would be competing with 3 other international players including his teammate who he is not starting in front of for Belgium currently at centerback. He would probably be paid around the same too. For footballing reasons, I get why Arsenal were never in the running for him.

The few times that I have seen him play, IMHO, he looks a better defender than Verm and also Mertesecker! We conceded a lot of goals last season down to shit defending.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ok I'll :getcoat:

Fairplay, but I still think it destroys any potentially interesting debate when you have a bunch of folks playing "internet hardman" if they don't agree with others opinion.

So does your face.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes I initially thought gag as in keep quiet, but it's gag as in joke. Maybe I don't post on here enough these days, but I never remembered it being like this a few years ago...maybe I'm too serious, I don't know, I just like to talk about Arsenal topics on the Arsenal FC debate page.

No football at the moment, so things are bound to get a bit more highbrow. It will go back to normal once the games start again.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think GW has always been geeky like this. The difference now is that there aren't many people who have anything original or thought-provoking to say. For the past month, almost every discussion has come down to whether Wenger is refusing to spend or whether the board isn't making money available. Almost every single one. And there are people, foolishly, taking definite sides of the spectrum when we obviously don't have a clue what's going on. You could argue there is nothing interesting to say because nothing new is happening. But the whole 'wenger vs the board' thing has been done to death.

It's the board's fault.

[Munchies]

From the coldplay event today:
https://p.twimg.com/AuVXRjECMAAZMjG.jpg

Looked unrecognisable at first.

All that extra £££ coming in from these events eh ?

[Cripps_orig]

What was the attendance?

[mastermind84]

The few times that I have seen him play, IMHO, he looks a better defender than Verm and also Mertesecker! We conceded a lot of goals last season down to shit defending.
shit defending from midfield and players not communicating.

Is Vertonghen a talker? Is he an organizer? Will he make our holding mid play holding mid? Our problems defensively are deeper than just plugging in different personnel at centerback.

[Kano]

F*ck all ever happens at this club, why anyone would be surprised there's nothing to talk about is beyond me. Watching paint drying is more exciting.

No real surprise though, giving the fans something back is irrelevant.
one thing you can never accuse arsenal of being is dull and boring. last seasons roller coaster was brilliant and even when we're at our worst, our capitulations are depressingly entertaining.

[Cripps_orig]

Our football is pretty dull and boring though

[Kano]

Our football is pretty dull and boring though
no i wouldn't agree with that. it's not at the invincible type of level but it's not exactly everton or sunderland either. it's pretty good but there are more than enough things to improve on.

[mastermind84]

Our football is pretty dull and boring though
I agree

[Niall_Quinn]

Our football is pretty dull and boring though

It is now, mostly. But at one time it was the best that has ever been played - at least in my life time. Football goes in cycles, at least I hope it still does.

[KSE Comedy Club]

What was the attendance? Who cares.

More importantly, did we win?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

To be fair the players mentionwd as joining other clubs were either never realistic (Hazard) or not on the radar (Hulk) - Kagawa was and I think we missed out on that on but the other names we have been linked to are out there and there is no reason why say, after the Euros we can seriously make a go for the likes of Giourd (who on paper at least, has a decent club and international record) - Llorente. . .hmmmmm

The Euros is important for another reason, irs end will bring home RvP and the sticky issue of what to do with him. I believe a lot depends on him, I believe we have money and could spend it on whoever we want without getting rid of Robin first but his salary is key, what we choose to give him to stay with us, sets the benchmark for future incoming players. He will have to be our highest paid player and thus puts us out of the running for players who demand the amounts that Hazard was reportedly looking for.

I want to see the ambition too but I got a feeling that we could have to wait till nations start dropping out the Euros or/and RvP comed home

Waiting period :bow: now runing into its second year

Dempsey At Least Get

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Bleacherreport has us linked to Afellay.
Barca looking for 6 mil. . .there are risks (injuries) but this guy could be one of those dark horse bargain buys that could come very good.


Look at Ben Afra at Barcodes. . . .I say go for this, has versatility and would be a better option than Rsmsey if used more centrally also for 6 mil, come on!

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1203261-arsenal-transfer-rumours-gunners-would-be-smart-to-pursue-ibrahim-afellay

[KSE Comedy Club]

Bleacherreport has us linked to Afellay.Barca looking for 6 mil. . .there are risks (injuries) but this guy could be one of those dark horse bargain buys that could come very good.Look at Ben Afra at Barcodes. . . .I say go for this, has versatility and would be a better option than Rsmsey if used more centrally also for 6 mil, come on!http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1203261-arsenal-transfer-rumours-gunners-would-be-smart-to-pursue-ibrahim-afellayAfellay is also RVP's best mate.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Becomes more of a no brainer. . .skill, versatility, cost, Robin's mate. . .Wenger in charge, anything could happen. . .got Spurs, Newcastle written all over it

This is my new project. . .niw that Kagawa is out the picture and everyone should be oroud cos Im saving the club money

Come on Wenger, you wanted him before he went to Barcu#ts. . .that cant have changed

[Munchies]

Suprised Barca got Affelay for so cheap, apparently he went for £2 million !

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Really?
selling him on for 6 then is a tidy profit.
But who cares. . .they dont want him, we could do with him and these days thst price is reasonable

[Boss]

Afellay is fairly average.

Rather keep Benayoun if we're going down that route.

[GP]

Na na na na na na na na na na na
Ibi Affelay, Affelay
IBI AFFELAY!

Yeah he's not very good.

[mastermind84]

Bleacherreport has us linked to Afellay.
Barca looking for 6 mil. . .there are risks (injuries) but this guy could be one of those dark horse bargain buys that could come very good.


Look at Ben Afra at Barcodes. . . .I say go for this, has versatility and would be a better option than Rsmsey if used more centrally also for 6 mil, come on!

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1203261-arsenal-transfer-rumours-gunners-would-be-smart-to-pursue-ibrahim-afellay
Bleacher Report = no better than Caught Offsides.

[fakeyank]

Afellay is also RVP's best mate.

Not closer mates than Valdes and Mascherano..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLGiwXnijOE

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Bleacher Report = no better than Caught Offsides.

This I know.
But it is thrown out there to get this thread back on topic, one. And two, quite like the idea of picking this guy up for what seems a not so bad price.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Afellay made a mistake going to Barca - he was never going to get game time. Would be a useful member of the squad if he could get over the injuries and it's always good to play footie with your best mate! Am still gunning for M'villa to come to us. And I think Dempsey would be a great replacement for Chamakh in our squad. Think he'd be a similar signing to Arteta as in signing someone with perm experience but also someone who is a huge threat in the air like Chamakh was for Bordeaux. Watched this youtube interview with him and I think he's def a player that would enhance our squad, used either as a midfielder or support striker.
Here's link to the interview to anyone interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBDrQVE414w&feature=g-vrec

[Munchies]

Dempsey's a solid player , hope we get him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZR48Cnn9FU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ArBu5Vwi9Ek#!
Turn your speakers off for this one

[Arsenal Royal]

I wish we'd sign Afellay. He'd have a great partnership with RvP (Robin assisted him twice in tonight's friendly game). Ibi has been injured for a very long time but has not lost his pace. Plus he's very versatile and has a great shot.

It's not fair to say that he "wasted" his career at Barca. It's his favorite club and he's said to Dutch journalists that he'd like to stay and fight for a starting place. The guy has a great attitude as well :bow:.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Plus he had been out for so long with injury. Barca could've done with him this season, an obvious statement perhaps but I don't think they would've wanted to be relying on Cuenca and Tello for a lot of the season so soon in to their careers. It was Afellay's run and cross that provided Messi with his first in the CL semi final against Real Madrid, I believe. That kind of action is what I think Barca missed.

However, I think we really need to sign a goalscoring midfielder above all else.

[Cripps_orig]

ASTON VILLA
Carlos Cuellar, Emile Heskey, Brad Guzan
BLACKBURN ROVERS
Vincenzo Grella, Michel Salgado
BOLTON WANDERERS
Robbie Blake, Sean Davis, Ricardo Gardner, Jussi Jaaskelainen, Ivan Klasnic, Zat Knight, Paul Robinson, Gretar Steinsson
CHELSEA
Jose Bosingwa, Didier Drogba, Salomon Kalou
EVERTON
Marcus Hahnemann. James McFadden
FULHAM
Andrew Johnson. Danny Murphy, Bjorn Helge Riise
LIVERPOOL
Fabio Aurelio, Stephen Darby
MANCHESTER CITY
Gai Assulin, Owen Hargreaves, Andreas Mancini, Gunnar Nielsen, Stuart Taylor
MANCHESTER UNITED
Tomasz Kuszczak, Michael Owen
NEWCASTLE UNITED
Danny Guthrie, Tamas Kadar, Peter Lovenkrands, Alan Smith
NORWICH CITY
Zak Whitbread, Aaron Wilbraham
QPR
Patrick Agyemang, Gary Borrowdale, Akos Buzsaky, Radek Cerny, Lee Cook, Danny Gabbidon, Fitz Hall, Clint Hill, Peter Ramage, Dan Shittu, Rowan Vine
STOKE CITY
Salif Diao, Ricardo Fuller, Tom Soares
SUNDERLAND
Craig Gordon, Lewis King
SWANSEA CITY
Ferrie Bodde
TOTTENHAM
Ben Alnwick, Ledley King, Ryan Nelsen, Louis Saha
WEST BROM
Keith Andrews, Marton Fulop, Joe Mattock, Paul Scharner, Nicky Shorey, Somen Tchoyi
WIGAN
Mohamed Diame, Steve Gohouri, Chris Kirkland, Mike Pollitt, Hugo Rodallega
WOLVES
Jody Craddock


Free transfers

[Master Splinter]

Dids and Ivanhoe to cover us at both ends.

[Cripps_orig]

Get them all tbh

Gone will be the days of Arsenal injury crises

[Master Splinter]

Surprised Danny Murphy has been dumped.

I can see Fat Sam foaming at the mouth for Paul Robinson, Alan Smith, Fuller, One Size, Shittu, Diao, Nelsen and Tchoyi.

'Arry likes Owen and Rodallega.

Also, disgusting how Fulop has been treated by West Brom.

[Cripps_orig]

Some of these havent been "dumped" yet

They are all available on frees but some might still extend their contract with their clubs.

Murphy is probably one of them

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are interested in signing Crewe's £10m-rated, 18-year-old striker Nick Powell.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Who?

Can see this happening.

[Niall_Quinn]

Who?

Can see this happening.

Nick Powell, if you bothered watching more football you'd know who this is. He's that 18 yr old striker from Crewe.

[tpyo]

Free transfers

MANCHESTER CITY
Gai Assulin, Owen Hargreaves, Andreas Mancini, Gunnar Nielsen, Stuart Taylor



Mancini releases his own son!

[Özim]

Free transfers

MANCHESTER CITY
Gai Assulin
We were interested in this guy once upon a time, thank f*ck we didn't sign him.

[Özim]

Who?

Can see this happening.
Yeah would be natural continuation of this youth policy hell of the last 6 years.

[KSE Comedy Club]

West ham have made a £4m bid for Grant Holt.

Norwich won't sell him for that.

[Globalgunner]

Since we are broke and dont have two farthings to rub together we should consider getting Flamini back for free from AC Milan. He has been frozen out there and would be desperate to make amends for a bad career decision. He was in the french National team when he left us and now is nowhere, still only 27 years old and can shoot unlike the rest of our shot shy crew. Really musnt miss out on Afellay, i really would cry if we let another good dutchie go on account of our cheapskateness.

[Syn]

I'd have flamini back too but wages might be little bit problem.Also it might kill coquelin. But I must say that coquelin has been impressive whenever he has played. We're badly missing a quality DM though. Affelay...maybe barca are not willing to sell. And maybe he cannot do it on a cold night at the Britannia. And it would kill wilshere and a **** only has 23 lives.

[Joker]

We are also in a little bit the waiting zone you know.

[fakeyank]

Since we are broke and dont have two farthings to rub together we should consider getting Flamini back for free from AC Milan. He has been frozen out there and would be desperate to make amends for a bad career decision. He was in the french National team when he left us and now is nowhere, still only 27 years old and can shoot unlike the rest of our shot shy crew. Really musnt miss out on Afellay, i really would cry if we let another good dutchie go on account of our cheapskateness.

:gp:

Flamini would be awesome. If he can recapture 50% of his amazingness from 07/08 season, we should be good. Wages are not going to be a problem.. that bitch aint got playing time anywhere and hasnt performed to a high level to demand a high wage. We could give him a contract that entitles a renegotiation of terms based on performance next season. Dont see why he wont take it.
Having said that, shits not gonna happen as it will kill Cock, Ping Pong and AW's retarded youth policy..

[KSE Comedy Club]

Fuck flamini.

[Munchies]

Just got sent this and couldn't stop laughing my head off , slightly old but fucking mongs !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHO-CWXDC6c

[Cripps_orig]

Would take the Flamster back

Excellent in the 2 seasons he had a run in the team and a very good squad cover in the other seasons

[KSE Comedy Club]

He was only good when he was putting himself in the shop window.

I would have loved him to stay, but he wanted more money and wasn't interested as soon as he knew Milan were sniffing around.

Fuck him.

[fakeyank]

He was only good when he was putting himself in the shop window.

I would have loved him to stay, but he wanted more money and wasn't interested as soon as he knew Milan were sniffing around.

Fuck him.

How do you know we were not penny pinching our way to offering him a new contract? And as a professional football player, who would you chose- Arsenal or Milan? No need to answer, its a rhetorical question..

[Cripps_orig]

Chelsea want to follow up the signings of Eden Hazard and Marko Marin with a move for Arsenal duo Bacary Sagna, 29, and Theo Walcott, 23.
Full story: Caught Offside

:lol:

[Power n Glory]

The Arsenal Summer Sale is now on!

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Found this story regarding defensive cover, or at least for DJ

http://justarsenal.com/arsenal-chasing-swiss-international-defender-to-replace-djourou/1

Title says Swisss international, article says Austrian defender - typical justarsenal but its a rumour so. . .

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/drivetime/blog/2010-10-21/durhams-rant-eduardo-ovation-sums-arsenal


I know someone else mentioned Adrian Durham earlier so had to bring up this one.

We (the fans) lack ambition by celebrating a goal scored by an opposition player which turned the scoreline from 5-0 to 5-1?

What a twisted man this is, obviously we are not going to celebrate the goal if it had in anyway put our victory in doubt....but the game was over, and this was a guy who we felt bad for getting injured with us and having to move him on.....no-one celebrated when he scored against us in Donetsk you bell end!

[Syn]

You're talking about it and linking everyone to his comments so his work is done. And he'll keep doing until people ignore him. He is ultimately making money from gooners giving him a reaction and I don't understand why people listen to him or talksport with that in mind.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don't mind him most of the time, a lot of the non-Arsenal things he talk about make sense, assuming they don't involve Citeh, a team he is clearly up the arse of.

And anyway, as a club we give him a lot of ammo, without the need for phonecallers.

[Ollie the Optimist]

seriously some people want flamini back? a one season wonder in his final season. the same people i bet who slated wenger for bringing back henry because it showed a lack of ambition etc

[Cripps_orig]

05/06 and 07/08 seems more than one season to me :shrug:

And when did he slate Wenger? Anyone who does that should be considered an Arsenal legend

[Joker]

Durham is a twat, a typical shock-jock who tries to come across as a working class, "man of the people" type person which explains the silly digs at Islington Coffee shops and Lattes. The like your typical right wing Sun "journalist" pretending to articulate the views of the average punter, when in reality he's simply making himself look like a dickhead.

[milla]

05/06 and 07/08 seems more than one season to me :shrug:

And when did he slate Wenger? Anyone who does that should be considered an Arsenal legend

Flamini had never slated Wenger, he left cause he wanted to play for his boyhood club. I would definitely take Flamini back, superb talent IMO. :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Flamini had never slated Wenger, he left cause he wanted to play for his boyhood club. I would definitely take Flamini back, superb talent IMO. :coffee:Agreed.

People slating Flamini are the same sucking Cescs cock :lol:

GW hypocrisy to the fore yet again

[Ollie the Optimist]

05/06 and 07/08 seems more than one season to me :shrug:

And when did he slate Wenger? Anyone who does that should be considered an Arsenal legend

i dont know where you got from my post that i said flamini slated wenger :blink:

also we moan wenger never signs players and moves forward etc. why sign a has been who has been a bit part player for milan. he had his chance and fucked off. i bet if we did sign him, and he plays shit for a game or two, the people who wanted him back now will be the first to call for wengers head for taking the cheap option etc

[KSE Comedy Club]

Agreed.People slating Flamini are the same sucking Cescs cock :lol:GW hypocrisy to the fore yet again Nah.

Cesc is a **** too.

Fuck em both.

We need to move on, buy someone decent, not bring back Milan's bench boy.

[Cripps_orig]

Nah.

Cesc is a **** too.

Fuck em both.

We need to move on, buy someone decent, not bring back Milan's bench boy.Tbf, we are strongly linked with the Aston Mvila dude.

Flamini pisses on him quite comfortably

[mastermind84]

Tbf, we are strongly linked with the Aston Mvila dude.

Flamini pisses on him quite comfortablyindeed

cant wait to see Flamini play against England and star in Euros for France.

[Cripps_orig]

indeed

cant wait to see Flamini play against England and star in Euros for France.Being at the Euros doesnt mean much tbh

Henderson and Downing are at the Euros and they are shit

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea have announced the agreement of terms with Hazard. And his agent. :ninja:

[mastermind84]

Being at the Euros doesnt mean much tbh

Henderson and Downing are at the Euros and they are shit
thats because England are shit and have injury issues.


Flamini is no where near France's squad. In fact, has Flamini ever played in a tournament for France?

[Cripps_orig]

France are even worse than England going by the rankings

Tbf Flamini has to try and get in to the AC Milan squad. Mvila plays for some French team no one has heard of so gets more game time

[mastermind84]

Flamini had 50 year olds Gattuso and Ambrosini in front of him and couldnt break through before injuries dropped him further.

[Globalgunner]

i dont know where you got from my post that i said flamini slated wenger :blink:

also we moan wenger never signs players and moves forward etc. why sign a has been who has been a bit part player for milan. he had his chance and fucked off. i bet if we did sign him, and he plays shit for a game or two, the people who wanted him back now will be the first to call for wengers head for taking the cheap option etc

In case you hadnt noticed. Wenger ALWAYS goes for the cheap option.

[fakeyank]

seriously some people want flamini back? a one season wonder in his final season. the same people i bet who slated wenger for bringing back henry because it showed a lack of ambition etc

Henry = 34 years old and ready to retire in the US. I personally never attacked AW for bringing TH14 back.. I will welcome TH14 back at Arsenal as a player even when he is 50 years old. He is fuckin class.

As for Flamini, he is 27 and still at the peak of a football players career. He will be free to sign and wont have the dogs bollocks to ask for huge wages, since he was on the sidelines for Milan. I would sign a proven PL footballer at the peak age of his career for free over an unknown African playing in the french league.

[Power n Glory]

Henry = 34 years old and ready to retire in the US. I personally never attacked AW for bringing TH14 back.. I will welcome TH14 back at Arsenal as a player even when he is 50 years old. He is fuckin class.

As for Flamini, he is 27 and still at the peak of a football players career. He will be free to sign and wont have the dogs bollocks to ask for huge wages, since he was on the sidelines for Milan. I would sign a proven PL footballer at the peak age of his career for free over an unknown African playing in the french league.

It's not going to happen. Flamini has left all three of his clubs on free transfers and will probably ask to be paid higher wages than what he was on in Milan or similar. The fact that we got into a dispute about his wages in the first place and wouldn't offer what Milan were offering, I doubt we'll be throwing our hat in for this guy. Wenger thought he was underhanded in how he went about leaving us, similar to how the Marseille situation went down and he won't have this guy back in our squad and rightly so. He's not a French international, he's just spent the whole of last season out injured and he was a bit part player for Milan all these years. He'd have to take a pay cut if there was even a possibility of the move happening.

I'd rather take a chance on a unknown, strong African player from the French league. Wenger usually makes the right choice when it comes to African players.

[Cripps_orig]

It's not going to happen. Flamini has left all three of his clubs on free transfers and will probably ask to be paid higher wages than what he was on in Milan or similar. The fact that we got into a dispute about his wages in the first place and wouldn't offer what Milan were offering, I doubt we'll be throwing our hat in for this guy. Wenger thought he was underhanded in how he went about leaving us, similar to how the Marseille situation went down and he won't have this guy back in our squad and rightly so. He's not a French international, he's just spent the whole of last season out injured and he was a bit part player for Milan all these years. He'd have to take a pay cut if there was even a possibility of the move happening.

I'd rather take a chance on a unknown, strong African player from the French league. Wenger usually makes the right choice when it comes to African players.Chamakh, Gervinho says different

[fakeyank]

I'd rather take a chance on a unknown, strong African player from the French league. Wenger usually makes the right choice when it comes to African players.

Chamakh... :lol:

[Globalgunner]

Eboue!!!!!

[Ollie the Optimist]

Chamakh, Gervinho says different

lauren, eboue, song, toure reject that arguement

[Cripps_orig]

lauren, eboue, song, toure reject that arguementHow many of them were brought from the French league? Just checked.

Only Song

[Globalgunner]

Pls eboue was crap. a diving no talent athlete, whos sole pupose in life was to run into the box and fall at the slightest contact ven when the goal was wide open or a teammate was available to put the goal away. The last african talent wenger unearthed was adebayor, and he was more miss than hit.

[fakeyank]

Is Diaby still at Arsenal? If yes, can we add him to African player?

Sorry, let me rephrase.. can we classify him as a football player?

[Power n Glory]

Add Sagna to that argument.

Wenger hasn't bought enough African players in my opinion and we've been desperate for power and pace since Vieira left but he's been going for small technical players from Europe or South America. If he'd have bought Sessegnon, Cisse, Ba, Samba we'd have that old combination of power, strength, pace and technique. Most of the smaller clubs are sweeping up these players now.

[Ollie the Optimist]

so we slate wenger for going for the cheap option and not buying quality players and now we will slate him for missing out on a has been who left us. wenger cant win

[Cripps_orig]

wenger cant winPretty much

[Power n Glory]

so we slate wenger for going for the cheap option and not buying quality players and now we will slate him for missing out on a has been who left us. wenger cant win

It is a bit much and I'd agree with you on this occasion. I would rather he'd bought someone with real class instead of going for the someone like Flamini just because he's free. He's been out injured for a season. The Prem has changed since he last played here and we don't need him. He's not a starter and we have plenty of players that can cover.

[fakeyank]

wenger cant win

He doesnt know what it is to win.. unless you classify his self proclaimed trophy of 4th place.

[Syn]

Pretty much

:lol:

I think that's the only funny whambulance posts there has been.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

the argument about flamini recapturing his form is credible and not unrealistic. the thing about flamster was he didn't actually have an incredible ability on the ball or any real talent, he just had desire, heart and an engine on him. you can't technically 'lose' that, you either have it or you don't. injuries can slow you down and reduce those attributes, and it certainly looks like it has done at Milan for him, but it doesn't alter the mindset a player has of hunting the ball down and putting in hard tackles. that's naturally embedded in his mind. all he done in 07/08 was exactly that but he was just so bloody effective at it. for that reason i'd take him back because like henry, i think he'll just be happy he's been given another chance at the club so will try to impress. his injuries have been pretty serious but a different club may have a psychological effect and improve that (although with our medical team it could be a match made in heaven).

[Özil's Panoramic View]

where the f*** is our pride and ambition as fans? i ask this question based on the desire of some to have Flamini back in an Arsenal kit.

[Power n Glory]

where the f*** is our pride and ambition as fans? i ask this question based on the desire of some to have Flamini back in an Arsenal kit.

:lol: I hear you.

[AKBapologist]

Hazard completes medical at chavs
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9310923/Eden-Hazard-today-finally-completes-move-to-Chelsea-after-passing-medical.html

Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

[Ollie the Optimist]

so fans slate wenger for not being able to attract talents like hazard then call for has beens like flamini ? :lol:

[mastermind84]

the argument about flamini recapturing his form is credible and not unrealistic. the thing about flamster was he didn't actually have an incredible ability on the ball or any real talent, he just had desire, heart and an engine on him. you can't technically 'lose' that, you either have it or you don't. injuries can slow you down and reduce those attributes, and it certainly looks like it has done at Milan for him, but it doesn't alter the mindset a player has of hunting the ball down and putting in hard tackles. that's naturally embedded in his mind. all he done in 07/08 was exactly that but he was just so bloody effective at it. for that reason i'd take him back because like henry, i think he'll just be happy he's been given another chance at the club so will try to impress. his injuries have been pretty serious but a different club may have a psychological effect and improve that (although with our medical team it could be a match made in heaven).
have you watched Michael Essien play for Chelsea the last two seasons?

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah cos thats the same

To the Hazard post

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal midfielder Tomas Rosicky has attracted the interest of Eskisehirspor, Goal.com has learned.

The Czech Republic international has just enjoyed one of his best seasons since joining the Gunners in 2006, and his fine form has not gone unnoticed elsewhere.

Eskisehirspor qualified for next season's edition of the Europa League following their fifth-place finish in the Turkish league, and club president Halil Unal is desperate to add a high-profile name to his squad to ensure the club will have a competitive team in Europe next term.

Unal recently travelled to Prague with a number of club officials to meet Rosicky's representatives, and to discuss a potential summer transfer.

However, the Eskisehir side face a tough task luring the 31-year-old attacking midfielder away from his current club.

The attacking midfielder signed a new deal with Arsenal only three months ago, and it is unclear as to whether Rosicky is interested in an exit from the Emirates.

Eskisehirspor defender Dede previously played with Rosicky at Borussia Dortmund, and has already informed his former team-mate about the club and city.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/04/3147551/arsenals-rosicky-targeted-by-turkish-side-eskisehirspor

Hes gone

[Syn]

All I know is that flamini played pretty well for us and would be the best (only) dm that we have. He has proven he can do well at this level and while it didn't work out elsewhere, he can do a good job here. And while he obviously has no connection with arsenal or the fans, he also didn't screw the club over in any way. He fulfilled his contract, put in excellent, committed performances until the very last game and then moved elsewhere. It won't happen but its not the worst idea in the world. I really think we need a player like him even if it's not him. Ground needs covering in midfield. Too many free runners with no discipline. Arteta has discipline but he's not the quickest. Need some running power and energy in the middle along with arteta and song.

[Cripps_orig]

ARSENAL are in talks with Argentine midfielder Lucas Biglia — but face stiff competition from Real Madrid.

The £8million-rated star has captained Anderlecht to a second straight Belgian league title and Real chief Jose Mourinho is a big admirer.

But Gunners boss Arsene Wenger hopes to land the 26-year-old, who has won six caps.

Biglia joined Anderlecht from Independiente in 2006, and is now eager to move to a top European club.

He said: “Real Madrid and Arsenal have both been in contact and I’ll wait to see what happens.

“I am still under contract with Anderlecht until 2015, but they know that I plan to leave.

“If a club offers the right price, Anderlecht will let me go.”

The former Liverpool target also interests Napoli and Fiorentina.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4355132/Arsenal-in-8m-Big-battle.html

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

have you watched Michael Essien play for Chelsea the last two seasons?

if essien came to us he'd be a beast player and by far one of the most influential players in our team.

[mastermind84]

if essien came to us he'd be a beast player and by far one of the most influential players in our team.
you havent watched Essien the last two seasons.

Shoot, he was an embarrassment at the Emirates this year, lol.

[Munchies]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/04/3147551/arsenals-rosicky-targeted-by-turkish-side-eskisehirspor

Hes gone

A shame that he only started to play well for the first time in 5 years just recently. Was really optimistic about him , especially when he scored those 2 goals against USA in the World Cup. I wouldn't mind if he were to leave and we were able to get a decent enough replacement. But then again he does seem to be fine with sitting on the bench picking up his wages so I guess he's a decent enough squad player.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kagawa to Man Utd is official now, subject to a medical and work permit.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

you havent watched Essien the last two seasons.

Shoot, he was an embarrassment at the Emirates this year, lol.

he's had injuries and managers have needed instant results so haven't had the time to bed him back into the team. he made 5 appearances in the last 14 games, that gives him no chance of recapturing his old form. ask any player what the number one rule is when you come back from a serious injury and they'd say game time. at chelsea he was given none. if he was at the emirates wenger would give him the time and faith to build his fitness back up which would see his form return too.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Again, having flamini back :haha:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Kagawa to Man Utd is official now, subject to a medical and work permit.

Fucking bollocks and any other colourful language you want to add. . .SAF shopping early like last year Jones and Young.

But I'm prepared to move on. . .lets go for Allfellay. . .no doubt will be disappointed again. . .ripe for a bid from the Scum or Barcodes

[Marc Overmars]

Do not forget there is a waiting period to observe.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Van Persie is observing his.

[Globalgunner]

We need , a keeper, CB, Dm and at least 2 Am, since we all should agree that Arshavin is a bust and Rosicky, can/should be replaced. not to mention the ghost of the footballer formerly known as Diaby who sometimes haunts the old place. We also need 2 strikers Park and Chamack exist in name only.

This is not a campaign to get Flamini back, some of us are just pointing out that he cannot be any worse than Rosicky is now AND is 3-4 years younger. Plus our reticence to spend. IF we have to go the cheap option, He and Afellay are obvious candidates.

In case no one else has noted. there seems to be little real association of our club with any decent targets. we are just hoping to stir up a little action.


I would like us to get Handanovic too as I think our keeper needs a challenge. those howlers in our last 3 games should not be overlooked, granted that he may have been carrying an injury.

[Marc Overmars]

if essien came to us he'd be a beast player and by far one of the most influential players in our team.

Essien's knees are shot.

No thanks.

[Cripps_orig]

Ghanaian Robbie Savage :bow:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Essien's knees are shot.

No thanks.

i dont see how you can make a judgement like that based on the lack of games he's played. as i said, you need game time to build up fitness and recuperate any strength in your legs. he hasn't been given that. sitting on the bench wont help his knee get any better but rehabiliation alongside game time will. essien needs a club that has the patience to embed him back into the team but unfortunately for him he's at a club only interested in short term success, so will never get that. van persie had a malleolar injury in 08/09 (same one he had earlier in his career) and people thought that would be the end of him mainly because of the severity of that type of injury. most people need a screw fitted into the ankle but luckily rvp didn't. we could have given up on him but we didn't, the rest is history.

[Munchies]

In other news , Anelka may go to the Spuds this summer.
http://www.teamtalk.com/papertalk/7794558/Paper-Talk-London-trio-chase-Anelka

[Syn]

In other news , Anelka may go to the Spuds this summer.

:haha:

I hate how they keep getting one over us. Who is it next year? Christopher Wreh?

'arry :bow:

[Özim]

Talks for a new deal for Arteta, WTF he only signed last summer and for 4 years I don't see why we should renegotiate, he's 30 now as well. He took a pay cut to come, don't see why he should get a rise now when we've still own f*ck all.

We really have amateurs in charge when it comes to contracts, we should be focussed on RVP and signing new players not paying someone who signed for 4 years last season and who's 30 more money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324116

[Niall_Quinn]

Talks for a new deal for Arteta, WTF he only signed last summer and for 4 years I don't see why we should renegotiate, he's 30 now as well. He took a pay cut to come, don't see why he should get a rise now when we've still own f*ck all.

We really have amateurs in charge when it comes to contracts, we should be focussed on RVP and signing new players not paying someone who signed for 4 years last season and who's 30 more money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324116

He did very well so I guess the new deal is a 1 year, pay as you play contract.

[AKBapologist]

Meanwhile, Kagawa Completes transfer to united.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9311564/Manchester-United-reach-agreement-for-Borussia-Dortmunds-Shinji-Kagawa.html

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Meanwhile, Kagawa Completes transfer to united.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9311564/Manchester-United-reach-agreement-for-Borussia-Dortmunds-Shinji-Kagawa.html


Fucking bollocks and other. ,

[Niall_Quinn]

Their clothes horse is better than our clothes horse. We're letting a shirt sales gap develop.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Kagawa would have done more than sell shirts

[Cripps_orig]

Talks for a new deal for Arteta, WTF he only signed last summer and for 4 years I don't see why we should renegotiate, he's 30 now as well. He took a pay cut to come, don't see why he should get a rise now when we've still own f*ck all.

We really have amateurs in charge when it comes to contracts, we should be focussed on RVP and signing new players not paying someone who signed for 4 years last season and who's 30 more money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324116

Wtf, already? :doh:

[Cripps_orig]

Kagawa would have done more than sell shirtsHe sells jumpers as well?

[mastermind84]

he's had injuries and managers have needed instant results so haven't had the time to bed him back into the team. he made 5 appearances in the last 14 games, that gives him no chance of recapturing his old form. ask any player what the number one rule is when you come back from a serious injury and they'd say game time. at chelsea he was given none. if he was at the emirates wenger would give him the time and faith to build his fitness back up which would see his form return too.
his old form is gone. He has had 3 knee surgeries the last 3 seasons. He is slow on the tackle and has been injury prone himself. If you havent watched him play the last two years, you need to stop talking about "Essien walking in and improving our side" because he is looking like a finished fooballer.

Flamini was an inferior version of that and also had a bad knee injury.

[mastermind84]

Talks for a new deal for Arteta, WTF he only signed last summer and for 4 years I don't see why we should renegotiate, he's 30 now as well. He took a pay cut to come, don't see why he should get a rise now when we've still own f*ck all.

We really have amateurs in charge when it comes to contracts, we should be focussed on RVP and signing new players not paying someone who signed for 4 years last season and who's 30 more money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324116
Arteta took a pay cut to play at Arsenal, iirc. He played well and now he wants his money back and then some. I get it, and since Ornstein is reporting it, the club are probably fine in giving one out.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

He sells jumpers as well?


Yeah right, also bricks, clothes pegs and blood diamonds

The guy would have been a very decent signing but once again we flirt with interest. . .go in and then pull out again like a bottleless vitgin, too frightened to get his nuts wet. . .

This more than anything pisses me off. . .how many players will we show interest in, and not do anything. . .the list is getting longer, MVila, Giourd, Allfellay. . .cant wait to see who we miss out on this year

[Cripps_orig]

Athletic Bilbao star Fernando Llorente has hinted at a future move to the Premier League.

The Spain striker revealed ex-Liverpool players Fernando Torres and Xabi Alonso have highly recommended English clubs because of their passionate fans.

Llorente told reporters: “I might end up playing in England, who knows? At the moment I'm at Athletic Bilbao, but who knows later.

“Xabi Alonso and Fernando Torres have told me about the immense respect that the fans have for their players there.”

The Spaniard, who is currently with Spain’s Euro 2012 squad preparing for the nation’s first match on Sunday, has long been linked with a move to Tottenham.

Reports towards the end of May suggested Spurs’ north London rivals Arsenal are also keen on the Bilbao forward.

Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester City and Juventus are four more teams rumoured to be keen on a player capped 20 times for his country heading into the Euros.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/05/3150203/llorente-hints-at-future-premier-league-move

FL week is going strong

[Özim]

Arteta took a pay cut to play at Arsenal, iirc. He played well and now he wants his money back and then some. I get it, and since Ornstein is reporting it, the club are probably fine in giving one out.
Yes he did, but that was the deal to join and he agreed, he signed a 4 year deal. He played ok but with 3 years left on his contract I'd tell him to swivel for it, we're not a charity and he signed a deal and at 30 he's not exactly marketable.

Might seem harsh, but we've been screwed over by players enough times, time to get tough with these contracts, had we been we might not have some unproven nobodies on small fortunes.

[Globalgunner]

Arteta took a pay cut to play at Arsenal, iirc. He played well and now he wants his money back and then some. I get it, and since Ornstein is reporting it, the club are probably fine in giving one out.

The thought that a player we really wanted took a pay cut to come to us, the 4th richest club in the universe, somehow doesnt seem right. says a lot about why Arteta`s head was in the right place and our finances are not.

[Power n Glory]

The clubs priorities are all messed up. We've got players that are going into their final contract year. What the hell is this?

[fakeyank]

so fans slate wenger for not being able to attract talents like hazard then call for has beens like flamini ? :lol:

Coz realistically, papa Wenger aint gonna sign anybody! Yes, I would rather we signed Hazard but you realistically think we were ever in the hunt to sign a player of his calibre?! Really? No, think again.. its Arsene penny pinching Wenger.. With the prick we have as manager, we have to look at players who are cheap and not being looked at by other clubs. Flamini suits us just perfectly.

[Marc Overmars]

The clubs priorities are all messed up. We've got players that are going into their final contract year. What the hell is this?

We are negotiating with the handbrake on.

[fakeyank]

We are negotiating with the handbrake on.

Players are 2% away from signing the contracts

[Joker]

You must understand you know, Man City have distorted the free market; while they are running on petrol we are running on semen, so it is difficult you know. We can't spend £100M on Messi.

[alexander]

Dont know why I bothered reading through the last few pages, only makes me sad.

TBH nothing will happen till 31st August will it, thats our time to shine, masters of mopping up cack players.

[Ollie the Optimist]

The clubs priorities are all messed up. We've got players that are going into their final contract year. What the hell is this?

well rvp and theo are at the euros so are too busy to sort out new deals yet areta is on holiday so he can? its not exactly stupid

[Ollie the Optimist]

Talks for a new deal for Arteta, WTF he only signed last summer and for 4 years I don't see why we should renegotiate, he's 30 now as well. He took a pay cut to come, don't see why he should get a rise now when we've still own f*ck all.

We really have amateurs in charge when it comes to contracts, we should be focussed on RVP and signing new players not paying someone who signed for 4 years last season and who's 30 more money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324116

he wants 10k more because it was a clause in his contract when he signed that if we got CL football this year he gets a pay rise and tbh he deserves it. one of best and key players last year. as with any job, you do well you get rewarded

[GP]

he wants 10k more because it was a clause in his contract when he signed that if we got CL football this year he gets a pay rise and tbh he deserves it. one of best and key players last year. as with any job, you do well you get rewarded

Exactly right.

[Xhaka Can’t]

well rvp and theo are at the euros so are too busy to sort out new deals yet areta is on holiday so he can? its not exactly stupid

If only someone saw this tournament coming.

Seriously though, extending Van Persie's contract last year was not quite the no brainer it appears now.

And as for Theo, before February this year, the Club would have been nuts to offer him a new contract, especially given his inflated opinion of his own worth. Even now, I don't care if Theo ends up elsewhere.

[Özim]

he wants 10k more because it was a clause in his contract when he signed that if we got CL football this year he gets a pay rise and tbh he deserves it. one of best and key players last year. as with any job, you do well you get rewarded
How can that be, if it's a clause it's automatic there's nothing to sort out. I doubt it was a clause, he wants more money and with 3 years left on his contract, I'd tell him he can't have one at this stage.

He's 30 anyway so how many years has he got left? As for a good job, he did OK but we won nothing so I don't see why anyone should be rewarded, RVP being the exception due to the amount of goals he scored and the fact his contract is running down.

We've been rewarding too many players too often when we've achieved nothing in 7 years, now we're stuck with a number of them on big money noone wants, we never learn.

[Niall_Quinn]

Kagawa would have done more than sell shirts

Shorts and socks too.

[Xhaka Can’t]

How can that be, if it's a clause it's automatic there's nothing to sort out. I doubt it was a clause, he wants more money and with 3 years left on his contract, I'd tell him he can't have one at this stage.

He's 30 anyway so how many years has he got left?

Why aren't you Chief Executive of a big football club?

[Niall_Quinn]

he wants 10k more because it was a clause in his contract when he signed that if we got CL football this year he gets a pay rise and tbh he deserves it. one of best and key players last year. as with any job, you do well you get rewarded

Yes but Wenger is still shit anyway. He's the guy who thought it was a good idea to make the first iPhones crap. But they are better now, in fact the best phones by far. Just shows what can happen when you get a decent phone designer in instead of Wenger.

[Özim]

Why aren't you Chief Executive of a big football club?
You might ask why Gazidis is rather than asking me why I'm not, because from what we can tell he does precious little except repeat what Wenger thinks.

[Özim]

Yes but Wenger is still shit anyway. He's the guy who thought it was a good idea to make the first iPhones crap. But they are better now, in fact the best phones by far. Just shows what can happen when you get a decent phone designer in instead of Wenger.
You got one bit right anyway.

[Cripps_orig]

You might ask why Gazidis is rather than asking me why I'm not, because from what we can tell he does precious little except repeat what Wenger thinks.Wenger must be the only person in the world in any job that picks his own boss :lol:

But of course Wenger isnt bigger than the board :NQ:

[Özim]

Wenger must be the only person in the world in any job that picks his own boss :lol:

But of course Wenger isnt bigger than the board :NQ:
Pretty much, also the only one who tells his boss what to say and do! :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

It's like the Carphone Warehouse, their board gave themselves a pay rise and the CEO came out in public and called them all ****s and ordered them to cut their pay in half instead. Can't remember if they complied or fired his arse.

Actually none of that ever happened.

[Xhaka Can’t]

You might ask why Gazidis is rather than asking me why I'm not, because from what we can tell he does precious little except repeat what Wenger thinks.

Who says I don't ask that question?

[Xhaka Can’t]

It's like the Carphone Warehouse, their board gave themselves a pay rise and the CEO came out in public and called them all ****s and ordered them to cut their pay in half instead. Can't remember if they complied or fired his arse.

Actually none of that ever happened.

Your face never happened.

[Niall_Quinn]

Your face never happened.

Meaning I never had a face, so your whole point is moo. And so's your face.

[Niall_Quinn]

The thing that's odd about this transfer window (again) is the lack of new people coming to GW for up to the minute information.

[Munchies]

Anyone realise that Denilson is coming back <_< . So don't expect any signings now.

[Globalgunner]

He`ll be like a new signing. Brilliant!!!

[Özim]

Who says I don't ask that question?
Not sure, not seen you ask it on here, instead you ask me :lol:

[mastermind84]

Yes he did, but that was the deal to join and he agreed, he signed a 4 year deal. He played ok but with 3 years left on his contract I'd tell him to swivel for it, we're not a charity and he signed a deal and at 30 he's not exactly marketable.

Might seem harsh, but we've been screwed over by players enough times, time to get tough with these contracts, had we been we might not have some unproven nobodies on small fortunes.
so you decide to screw over a play who took less money and WANTED to join us and WANTS to be here and was a very important part of our team this season?

Think about that for a second. Now if you truely feel that way then you have absolutely no right to shit on a player who plays games in wanting to leave us because you want to screw players who want to be here and are vital for us.

The thought that a player we really wanted took a pay cut to come to us, the 4th richest club in the universe, somehow doesnt seem right. says a lot about why Arteta`s head was in the right place and our finances are not.
4th richest club = we play in a big stadium in London.

Arsenal are not cash rich.

But yeah, I agree about Arteta's head being in right place


he wants 10k more because it was a clause in his contract when he signed that if we got CL football this year he gets a pay rise and tbh he deserves it. one of best and key players last year. as with any job, you do well you get rewarded
if this is true, then its already sorted.

[Özim]

so you decide to screw over a play who took less money and WANTED to join us and WANTS to be here and was a very important part of our team this season?

Think about that for a second. Now if you truely feel that way then you have absolutely no right to shit on a player who plays games in wanting to leave us because you want to screw players who want to be here and are vital for us.
Not screwing him over at all, he signed a 4 year deal at an agreed amount per week, why should he get a new contract and a pay rise at this stage, I don't think he was outstanding, he isn't a top talent who's value is going to go up and he's only just signed a contract a year ago, if he wasn't happy with the money then he shouldn't have signed.

From what I can see we've won nothing so I don't see why we should be handing out pay rises to players under long term contracts at the age of 30.

As for players wanting to leave, if they've proved themselves to be top talents and are looking for success fair enough I've got no problem with that, we can't give them that.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Not screwing him over at all, he signed a 4 year deal at an agreed amount per week, why should he get a new contract and a pay rise at this stage, I don't think he was outstanding, he isn't a top talent who's value is going to go up and he's only just signed a contract a year ago, if he wasn't happy with the money then he shouldn't have signed.

From what I can see we've won nothing so I don't see why we should be handing out pay rises to players under long term contracts at the age of 30.

As for players wanting to leave, if they've proved themselves to be top talents and are looking for success fair enough I've got no problem with that, we can't give them that.

I have mixed feelings about this, but our record with him out of the side was easily relegation standard.

The only match we won without him was away at West Brom. And if I ever hear an allegation that their keeper has taken a bribe, he'd better hope I'm not on the jury.

[Marc Overmars]

Liverpool in for Sigurdsson, unsurprisingly.

Bit harsh on Swansleaona to lose their manager and potentially their record signing to them. :lol:

[Munchies]

Liverpool in for Sigurdsson, unsurprisingly.

Bit harsh on Swansleaona to lose their manager and potentially their record signing to them. :lol:

Swansea also took out the 1 year contract that said he couldn't sign any of their players , a shame they doddled on him too long. He will obviously choose Liverpool , although I'm not sure they need him. Need a goal machine like Giroud :lol:

[mastermind84]

Not screwing him over at all, he signed a 4 year deal at an agreed amount per week, why should he get a new contract and a pay rise at this stage, I don't think he was outstanding, he isn't a top talent who's value is going to go up and he's only just signed a contract a year ago, if he wasn't happy with the money then he shouldn't have signed.

From what I can see we've won nothing so I don't see why we should be handing out pay rises to players under long term contracts at the age of 30.

As for players wanting to leave, if they've proved themselves to be top talents and are looking for success fair enough I've got no problem with that, we can't give them that.
ok, so you had nothing to say when Nasri left? Or Adebayor? Both proved themselves and made team of the year for most press accounts those seasons.

And we also won nothing (except one match in the league) without Arteta playing. That clearly means something.

[Munchies]

Someone on here mentioned this guy before :
ARSENAL are in talks with Argentine midfielder Lucas Biglia — but face stiff competition from Real Madrid.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4355132/Arsenal-in-8m-Big-battle.html

“Real Madrid and Arsenal have both been in contact and I’ll wait to see what happens.

By judging by the comments on this youtube video, we've had over 100 scouts look at him for us for 5 months :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHRXTrnIyX8

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Liverpool in for Sigurdsson, unsurprisingly.

Bit harsh on Swansleaona to lose their manager and potentially their record signing to them. :lol:
Oooo :popcorn: I do quite like him, having watched him for Reading. Him, a winger, a striker and we're set for 6th.

All is fair as they say.

[Özim]

ok, so you had nothing to say when Nasri left? Or Adebayor? Both proved themselves and made team of the year for most press accounts those seasons.

And we also won nothing (except one match in the league) without Arteta playing. That clearly means something.
When Nasri left no, Adebayor on the other hand was a moneygrabber, he's only ever been interested in money, but I'm happy he left.

He still only signed last season for 4 years, he was happy with what he earnt, sure he was decent but he was hardly a real stand out performer like RVP which big clubs will be after.

He's 30, what is he going to do leave? There isn't another top club that will touch him, if he left he'd only be leaving to go to a smaller club...might sound harsh but I think pay rises should be earnt over a longer period and unless you're clearly going to attract interest from other clubs should only come into play if you win something or your contract is nearing it's end.

[Master Splinter]

Biglia :bow:.

[Power n Glory]

When Nasri left no, Adebayor on the other hand was a moneygrabber, he's only ever been interested in money, but I'm happy he left.

He still only signed last season for 4 years, he was happy with what he earnt, sure he was decent but he was hardly a real stand out performer like RVP which big clubs will be after.

He's 30, what is he going to do leave? There isn't another top club that will touch him, if he left he'd only be leaving to go to a smaller club...might sound harsh but I think pay rises should be earnt over a longer period and unless you're clearly going to attract interest from other clubs should only come into play if you win something or your contract is nearing it's end.

Truth be told, I think it's a clause in his contract and that's why he's getting a pay rise. It's probably why he agreed to the pay cut in the first place. I thought it was a bit cheeky of us to ask for him to take a pay cut anyway. But it's really worrying that we had such a clause in place, don't you think? Is the the plan if we don't make CL football? Offering lowers wages to signings? How about cutting out the dross we have in the current squad?

[Ralpheroo72]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4356351/Robin-van-Perise-saga-could-last-all-summer-Ivan-Gazidis.html

Anyone else aware of any other 'top' club that is so shit at contract/transfer negotiations? Gazidis is a donkey.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

The clubs priorities are all messed up. We've got players that are going into their final contract year. What the hell is this?

I am not too sure whether its about priorities being messed up, more getting out the way what can be done. RvP Theo are not around to be part of any contract talks so the club is forced to wait for their return (which will probably include a holiday the players choose to take after the Euros)

It is no doubt easy to get Artetas biz out the way now, seems it is an activated clause so fairly straight forward and no doubt falls within any budget set aside. In fact it probably does not affect any plan the club has with regards to RvP or Thei, we can only hope it is a good enough plan (for RvP anyhow, Theo for me has yet to show he deserves special treatment, akthough I do not advertise his departure without guarantees of a replacement.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Shorts and socks too.

As I said he could sell what the fuck he wanted. . .vitrgins into slavery for all I care. . .the guy has ability and would have been a good signing for us. . .but now will be one for Utd. . .course we cant buy everyone. . .the fact we buy no-one can sometimes make me fidget in my seat

[server too busy!]

I can't help but think Biglia is a bit too similar to Song. He doesn't just defend he also wants to attack as well, I think M'Vila is more what we need.

[Power n Glory]

If Wilshere gets the all clear and we keep Song, we won't sign a new DM or central player. The core three will be Arteta, Song and Wilshere. Rosicky will get games, Ramsey will, Coquelin will, Frimpong will be back, plus Wenger hasn't given up on Diaby. Players will have to be sold before we buy and we still have Denilson on the books.

[Munchies]

If Wilshere gets the all clear and we keep Song, we won't sign a new DM or central player. The core three will be Arteta, Song and Wilshere. Rosicky will get games, Ramsey will, Coquelin will, Frimpong will be back, plus Wenger hasn't given up on Diaby. Players will have to be sold before we buy and we still have Denilson on the books.

Thing is that they're all shite :/

We need good back up players, with premiership experience in the Arteta mould, such as Dempsey/Benayoun. We've had Diaby/Denilson for years and they've not shown their talent , albeit Diaby was looking decent till he got injured, need to get rid. I believe once our first team takes shape, we need to sort out our bench with proven premiership players.

[Power n Glory]

It's not going to happen. We'll never have an expensive bench and Wenger will give these players a chance. I doubt we'll sign another central midfield player. Wenger's hand would have to be forced like last season with all the injuries and player sales.

[hobson's choice]

Thing is that they're all shite :/

.

Agree except for Coquelin, this young man has been one our best players in every game he played last season. Really hope he gets more games next season, would hate to see him leave us because Wenger insists on playing Ramsey over him.

[Joker]

It's not going to happen. We'll never have an expensive bench and Wenger will give these players a chance. I doubt we'll sign another central midfield player. Wenger's hand would have to be forced like last season with all the injuries and player sales.

Yep I expect us to go into the next season with a midfield of Coquelin, Song, Ramsey, Wilshere, Rosicky, Arteta as our central options. Out wide we'll have Walcott, Gervinho, Podolski don't forget can also play there and Oxlade-Chamberlain. Defence won't be changed, and upfront we may bring in a replacement for RVP. That'll be it I expect.

[Power n Glory]

Diaby isn't shit either. He's just always injured. Can be very influential on attacks or dominant in midfield.

[selassie]

Anyone else getting the feeling we wont enter the market until the RVP situation is sorted out which most presumably will take all summer?

[Niall_Quinn]

We have actually signed a decent player already. Is that just being ignored or taken for granted? If all we've done is sign a replacement for RvP then we have every right to complain in the strongest terms. But if Podolski is and addition then we're already stronger and hopefully it heralds the arrival of one or two more decent signings. We'll have to wait and see because the Euros will confuse everything this year. No point just assuming we'll sign nobody though, because we have in fact signed somebody, haven't we?

[Cripps_orig]

We signed Gervinho early last summer

Chamakh the season before

Then f all else til it was too late

Same this year

[Niall_Quinn]

We signed Gervinho early last summer

Chamakh the season before

Then f all else til it was too late

Same this year

Fuck all like Arteta and Merts? Anyway, Bould might well be our most influential signing this year. Hope so anyway. If he can get the defence sorted out that's a massive stride forward for us. And then we can focus on signing a decent medical staff.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Anyone else getting the feeling we wont enter the market until the RVP situation is sorted out which most presumably will take all summer?


This. RvP to be sorted one way or the other. By doing so the benchmark of what we offer salary wise will be set, be it that he stays.
A departing Robin will add to the kitty, which translates as 'boardroom members' pockets!

[Unai Tea]

As has been said, we'll sell players to get space and try to resolve the Van Persie issue. These may slow down any transfer activity. Having the Euros on will impact that as well.

I can understand we don't want to pay players who don't play for us like the Bendtner's and Denilsons and Velas. Getting rid of them, which is hopefully possible, will allow for others to take their place and free up a bit of money. Those three alone would/should provide £10m in transfer funds and free up £120k per week in wages. I'm almost as excited about getting rid of these reprobates as I am about any potential new signings.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I sudder to think what will happen if RvP doesnt sign. . .

We'd be left with;

A Morrocan who isnt very good,
A Korean who is not sure why he was brought in
and a German who will inherit a team that will give hom a chance to bring in his staving of relegation skills to the fore

[Unai Tea]

I sudder to think what will happen if RvP doesnt sign. . .

We'd be left with;

A Morrocan who isnt very good,
A Korean who is not sure why he was brought in
and a German who will inherit a team that will give hom a chance to bring in his staving of relegation skills to the fore

Thank god! Thanks for that, I nearly forgot to include Shmakh and Park in the feckless reprobates list.

[Niall_Quinn]

Getting rid of some of these players could be a huge problem. Even if we dump them on a free the poxy agents try to hike the signing on bonus and paypacket to reflect the lack of a transfer fee. So much is in favour of the players these days, even the useless ones.

[Globalgunner]

If Arsenal were a person instead of a football club, he wouldnt even want to pay for his own educational advancement. He would sit down, do a cost benefit analysis and conclude that going to trade school would in the long run be more prudent than going to Uni. I mean at the end of the day you can still have a laugh with your university mates in the same pubs and hit on the same Essex broads. Unowhatamean!

RVP wont stay until he sees what our ambition is by buying new quality players, we wont buy new players until we sell RVP and use the City cash to buy 3 Gervinho look-alikes. Failure therefore becomes a self fulfilling prophecy

[Munchies]

I strongly think he'll leave. If he were to stay, he could have decided by now. Or he was probably told Arsenal would strengthen and what not, but then he'll see that the same was said to Henry/Cesc. So he may just wait and see if the board actually back it up , if not he'll go. The board are probably satisfied now, they got in Podolski for £10m, will sell RVP for £35m or so, and all they'll see is the profit that they can make. Podolski may be decent at international level, but he's no RVP.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7797118/Gazidis-No-rush-on-RVP

[Özim]

I'm very suspicious of the Podolsi signing at this stage, I suspect he's just a replacement for RVP whom the club feel is going to leave. If he wanted to stay we should have done a deal by now, or we should have told him we need a decision so we can get a replacement in place (maybe we have in Podolski).

It might be they don't want to let the cat out of the bag till the season tickets have been purchased of course.

[Injury Time]

Renewals deadline passed already. Guess those rushing up the waiting list will be checkin out their finances....

[Xhaka Can’t]

Did you renew?

[selassie]

We have actually signed a decent player already. Is that just being ignored or taken for granted? If all we've done is sign a replacement for RvP then we have every right to complain in the strongest terms. But if Podolski is and addition then we're already stronger and hopefully it heralds the arrival of one or two more decent signings. We'll have to wait and see because the Euros will confuse everything this year. No point just assuming we'll sign nobody though, because we have in fact signed somebody, haven't we?

Sure, Podolski is a very good player and decent signing but we need more than that regardless of whether RVP stays or goes.

I'm prepared to wait and see, but past seasons & gazidis's recent quotes dont inspire me with confidence. What's changed?

Oh and who is saying we wont sign anybody?

[Cripps_orig]

Schalke midfielder Lewis Holtby believes playing for Arsenal would be a "massive move" but insists he is happy in the Bundesliga for now.

The 21-year-old German has an English father from whom he inherited his love for Everton, but he has revealed his admiration for the Gunners' passing game.

Holtby, who missed out on Germany's Euro 2012 squad due to injury, also said that while he currently wants to concentrate on playing for Schalke, he hasn't ruled out a switch to England one day.

He told Talksport: "You never know, I’m just living every day in the day. I’m in Canada now, I’m enjoying it with my friends I’m just preparing for the new season.

"I just want to give my best for Schalke and you never know. I always said that my aim was to come to the Premier League one day because I love the league and my father is English. Some of my favourite teams are Everton and Arsenal so you never know.

“It [a move to Arsenal] would be a massive move because in footballing terms they have always been my favourite.

"They play nice one touch football, offensive and with young players and a nice stadium so its a nice club. But for now my thoughts are with Schalke and you never know.

“My agent is there for that, I am here to play football. I love playing football, I love winning trophies and that is my dedication and that is my life."

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/06/3153709/holtby-reveals-arsenal-premier-league-ambition

Our next German? And he has GHELism in him.

Could be perfect

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are keeping a close eye on Malaga's 22-year-old Venezuelan striker Salomon Randon, who is reportedly valued at £20m by the Spanish side.
Full story: FootyLatest

Who?

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Who?

Venezuelan?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Venezuelan?

A 20 mil Venezuelan?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Who?

Well his name is actually Rondon.

BBC/FootyLatest. :haha:

He's a decent players, probably enough for a back-up striker but I wouldn't want to rely on him.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Montpellier have rated Giroud at £50m :shrug:

He only has a year left on his contract.

RVP must be worth £80-90m then by that comparison.

[Injury Time]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/06/3153709/holtby-reveals-arsenal-premier-league-ambition

Our next German? And he has GHELism in him.

Could be perfect
Already injured, yup he's ours, well our medical staffs:woohoo:

[Munchies]

Montpellier have rated Giroud at £50m :shrug:

He only has a year left on his contract.

RVP must be worth £80-90m then by that comparison.

Some teams do so much BS before they sell their players. Hulk £80m :lol: , Cahill £17m :lol: (Chelsea probably got him for what Wenger 'disgracefully offered' ) , and this twat.

[Özim]

Montpellier have rated Giroud at £50m :shrug:

He only has a year left on his contract.

RVP must be worth £80-90m then by that comparison.
Yes but once Wenger has spoken to the board he'll be available for 5 million. It's true though he cares dearly about the club.

[Cripps_orig]

Tottenham Hotspur have reportedly agreed a deal to sign Nottingham Forest's 18-year-old centre-back Jamaal Lascelles , beating off competition from Arsenal.
Full story: CaughtOffside

:lol:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Beaten off with a feather no doubt. . .

No thanks to the new GHELkinson! Scum can have him

[Cripps_orig]

Things must be bad if we cant even get unknown Pub Teamers anymore even ahead of Spuds

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Things must be bad if we cant even get unknown Pub Teamers anymore even ahead of Spuds

wouldn't worry about it!

[Globalgunner]

Things must be bad if we cant even get unknown Pub Teamers anymore even ahead of Spuds

Spuds have an overblown opinion of themselves. Some of them even reckon we are after their Harry Redknapp, future England manager.

I think this is just press delusions, we got enough up and coming defenders.

[Marc Overmars]

Modric linked with United in many of the rags today.

[selassie]

Modric linked with United in many of the rags today.

I reckon they'll get him. Fergie is not messing about this summer, he's improving the weak areas of his team/squad.

[Niall_Quinn]

Rumours are starting to emerge about two Accrington Stanley youth players we have not been linked with. If true, these would be the only two players in world football that haven't been approached by Arsenal. I stress, these are only rumours at this stage - could be total bullshit.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I reckon they'll get him. Fergie is not messing about this summer, he's improving the weak areas of his team/squad.

Yup I agree, Fergie is going to want to get back at Citeh next time round. . .definite reason for him to stick around although I dont care much for Lesbo Modric. . .so they can have him. . .I wanna hear more about NQs crock of shit

[Cripps_orig]

Lewandowski going to Man Utd as well according to the Polish manager

[mastermind84]

Lewandowski going to Man Utd as well according to the Polish manager
he said he was good enough for United, not that he was going to United.

They have no room for him, lol.

[GP]

They don't need him, they have Danny Wellshit.

[Munchies]

Another youngster sold off, boy this youth project was pretty shit :lol:

Besiktas have announced the signing of Arsenal youngster Oguzhan Ozyakup for a fee of €500,000 (£405,000).
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/09/3159133/besiktas-sign-arsenal-youngster-oguzhan-ozyakup

[Özim]

Another youngster sold off, boy this youth project was pretty shit :lol:

Besiktas have announced the signing of Arsenal youngster Oguzhan Ozyakup for a fee of €500,000 (£405,000).
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/09/3159133/besiktas-sign-arsenal-youngster-oguzhan-ozyakup
Too right, which dumbass came up with this ridiculous idea anyway!

[mastermind84]

Another youngster sold off, boy this youth project was pretty shit :lol:

Besiktas have announced the signing of Arsenal youngster Oguzhan Ozyakup for a fee of €500,000 (£405,000).
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/09/3159133/besiktas-sign-arsenal-youngster-oguzhan-ozyakup
paying a minimal for a player, developing him for a couple of years, and then selling him for a major profit while also getting a chunk of his future transfer is shit? You cray :lol:

that is actually the youth project tbh, some players come through and make an impact while the rest are sold for major profit.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Major profit? :sarcy:

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Major profit? :sarcy:

We've made some profit over the years on these kids I'm sure...must have made at least 9million on Bentley alone with all his transfers and sell-on clauses ;)

Fabregas was a pretty tidy profit too - bought for 500k sold for 35million?

Anelka also not bad - bought for 700k sold for 25million?

I guess it makes the books balance at the end of the day...

[Özim]

You forget we pay many of these youngsters a small fortune in weekly salary, I'm not sure we've made that much profit on most of them.

There's a few we made a nice profit on obviously, but maybe not that many.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

We've made some profit over the years on these kids I'm sure...must have made at least 9million on Bentley alone with all his transfers and sell-on clauses ;)

Fabregas was a pretty tidy profit too - bought for 500k sold for 35million?

Anelka also not bad - bought for 700k sold for 25million?

I guess it makes the books balance at the end of the day...

all of which is eaten up by the crock of shite in our current team thanks to mismanagement and bad transfer deals by our board and manager. dont be fooled, we might be making large profit but its all eaten up into the pockets of our board and into wengers crap youth project.

[Keith]

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/901546-arsenal-could-bid-to-buy-back-samir-nasri-as-man-city-open-to-offers