Super Super Quality Transfer Speculation & Shit

[dazthegooner]

Would be a good signing though haven't seen him play but judging by what I've heard a very good player, and if he's good enough to make the Spanish squad thats good enough for me!

[Dennis Bendtner]

Southampton have shown their intent for a first season back in the *Premier League – by making an audacious enquiry about Arsenal and England *winger Theo Walcott.

Arsenal remain hopeful of seeing off interest from Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Tottenham and now Southampton, and will this week reopen talks with Walcott’s advisers over the 23-year-old’s future.

The Gunners will also *attempt to underline their ambitions by stepping up efforts to push through the signing of Santi Cazorla from Malaga, while also considering a season-long loan of Nuri Sahin from Real Madrid.

But the newly promoted Saints want to take Walcott back to his first sporting home.

They have become the *latest club to ask about *Walcott’s availability and were not put off by the fact they would have to pay at least £15million and £100,000-a-week in wages to secure his signature.

Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese has made a claim to new and *prospective signings that the club can challenge for a Champions League place in the next three years.

But even if Walcott *decided to quit the *Emirates, Southampton would face a near-*impossible battle to convince him to snub interest from Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Tottenham to *return to the South Coast.

Cortese and manager Nigel Adkins want to make a signing to back up their bold claims that Saints can muscle their way into *Europe.

They view Walcott, who grew up at Southampton and made 21 League *appearances before joining Arsenal as a 16-year-old, as the perfect man.

Walcott has just 12 months of his Arsenal contract.

Wenger’s bid to sign *£20m-rated attacking *midfielder Santi Cazorla is not believed to have any impact on *Walcott.

Arsenal have agreed a deal in principle to take Sahin on a season-long loan, but are yet to open *negotiations with him.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/southampton-bid-to-bring-theo-walcott-1180296

Barca DNA is one thing, but :unsure:

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Sahin is a great little player - would be a great coup
Not overly bothered about Sahin, he barely played for Madrid last season did he?

Hope we can tie up Cazorla soon though.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Please let the rumors be true...I want this guy in an Arsenal Shirt too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhSKLnNGbyg&feature=related

[Bergkampwonderland10]

And can we not just do a cash plus Arshavin for Dempsey? Arshavin plus 6million seems fair.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Imagine this scenario....
Podolski for Van Persie
Giroud for Bendtner
Cazorla for Arshavin
Sahin for Denilson
Sakho for Squillacci
Dempsey for Vela
and Cesar for Almunia all in one summer....

7 in and 7 out

:coffee:

[Özim]

Imagine this scenario....
Podolski for Van Persie
Giroud for Bendtner
Cazorla for Arshavin
Sahin for Denilson
Sakho for Squillacci
Dempsey for Vela
and Cesar for Almunia all in one summer....

7 in and 7 out

:coffee:
You can wake up now.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

And can we not just do a cash plus Arshavin for Dempsey? Arshavin plus 6million seems fair.

Wont get that much

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Wont get that much

Well if we say Arshavin is worth 2million or so and we pay 6million in cash on top of that...then 8million for Dempsey seems more than reasonable.

[GP]

There's no way Dempsey is worth 4x Arshavin :lol:

[Bergkampwonderland10]

There's no way Dempsey is worth 4x Arshavin :lol:

I agree. He's worth 5x Arshavin and a pie.

[GP]

I'm really, really glad you're not the boss.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I'm really, really glad you're not the boss.
:mwah:

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Grimandi's perm we rarely see eye to eye...but Dempsey scored 23 goals last season and looked like he gave a shit for his team...Arshavin, well do I even need to say anything...he was unfit, low on confidence and couldn't be bothered most days...I know who I'd pay more for.

[Cripps_orig]

Grimandi's perm we rarely see eye to eye...but Dempsey scored 23 goals last season and looked like he gave a shit for his team...Arshavin, well do I even need to say anything...he was unfit, low on confidence and couldn't be bothered most days...I know who I'd pay more for.

Dempsey is quality indeed.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal could add to the signings of Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain from Southampton as they have targeted the south coast club's 17-year-old full-back Luke Shaw.
Full story: Daily Mirror

ffs

[selassie]

Not sure what is going on with the Santi deal, I would be ecstatic if we signed him, it would be a major signing. Apparently there's a hold up in the Sahin deal due to wages, apparently he's on 100K per week at Real and they want us to pay the full amount if we take him on loan.

Sahin is a great player, post Real Madrid he was probably the most in form deep lying playmaker in Europe leading Dortmund to the title. He would be a very good "Loan" signing if we captured him, in theory he should walk into our team.

I think both the Santi & Sahin deals are up in the air, but if we capture them they would both upgrade our first XI.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

100k a week is a snag for us but hopefully we can negotiate around this. . .we are taking a player they obviously dont want and should show signs/insert clauses that if he does the biz we will look to buy because I think that this guy could be more than a Yossi like stop gap. Dont really know how these thibgs work but 60:40 wouldnt be bad, would it?

We should move quickly though cos I can see Spuds sniffing around this one

[Marc Overmars]

Cazorla is likely to be a regular starter and he's at a peak age, so we should expect to pay a premium. Getting rid of Arshavin should cover this though.

[Flavs]

We need to clear some timber here before we can really start splashing it about. Walcott and RvP would be a good start

[Özim]

Not sure what is going on with the Santi deal
I would think it would be the fact Malaga want more money for him and we're not really willing to pay. The money we've offered isn't much of an increase on what they bought him for.

[Kano]

We need to clear some timber here before we can really start splashing it about. Walcott and RvP would be a good start

yes let's clear out our whole front three and start from scratch - usually works out well that sort of thing

[Flavs]

Really? What's your basis for comparison?

Also i only mentioned 2 names there, 1 of whom is wank anyway

[Grebbo]

'Bendtner, Squillaci and Park will be on their way to go somewhere,' said Wenger on Sunday. 'Arshavin, it depends. We have to sit together and talks. He could still have a future at the club.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2180633/Arsene-Wenger-says-Arsenal-players-ready-new-season.html#ixzz226MYgP00

:scarf:

[Fist of Lehmann]

I would think it would be the fact Malaga want more money for him and we're not really willing to pay. The money we've offered isn't much of an increase on what they bought him for.

We're only trying this because of their financial difficulties. We're offering enough for them to cover what they owe on him plus a small profit so if Malaga don't accept this one, I can't see us going much higher. We won't go beyond what we deem is fair price.

A little bit like not offering the extra £2.5m for Xabi Alonso, for instance.

[Ollie the Optimist]

so pretyy much all the papers are now saying the carzola deal will be confirmed this week

[Fist of Lehmann]

Financial Difficulties :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Petrodollars. :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Podolski (£10m) Giroud (£9.5m) Cazorla (£16m) and Sahin (loan) = £35.5m


if those figures are correct, then that is stunning buisness by us

[Syn]

Skysports seem to think Cazorla wants to move to Arsenal. Only we can fuck this up. But if Malaga don't want to sell what can you do. Let's see...

[Cripps_orig]

Skysports seem to think Cazorla wants to move to Arsenal. Only we can fuck this up. But if Malaga don't want to sell what can you do. Let's see...

Offer more money?

[Syn]

That'd be far too easy. Where would Wumger get his lols?

[Cripps_orig]

That'd be far too easy. Where would Wumger get his lols?

Watching Arsenal play?

[selassie]

I would think it would be the fact Malaga want more money for him and we're not really willing to pay. The money we've offered isn't much of an increase on what they bought him for.

Yeah, I think they purchased him for 15mill and the last I heard we increased our offer to 18mill which to be fair is quite reasonable given their shady financial situation.

I do kind of see where Malaga are coming from, Cazorla is at his peak and features regularly for the Spanish National team so his true market value is probably 25mill upwards. He's an absolute class player and would be a major coup for us.

[Syn]

Watching Arsenal play?

If we get one of those Spanish midgets in, there's a danger we could actually be good.

So a definite trade-off tbf. The luls are less strong for wumger if people are happy.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Podolski (£10m) Giroud (£9.5m) Cazorla (£16m) and Sahin (loan) = £35.5m


if those figures are correct, then that is stunning buisness by us

Even if Santi goes a bit higher, I agree with that and it may not finish there, every chance we bring in a keeper and I wont be surprised to see the MVila story do the rounds again. As I see us using money we have or at least what we plan to get from Nic and co on Santi and RvPs will go on someone else, reckon we will also be wiser with wages offered

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Podolski (£10m) Giroud (£9.5m) Cazorla (£16m) and Sahin (loan) = £35.5m


if those figures are correct, then that is stunning buisness by us

yep. we get 4 class players in for one andy carroll. can kind of see why liverpool are shit cant we?

anyway im still a bit worried about our defence. dont think jenkinson's good enough nor do i necessarily rate either left back we have. but our mentality seems to be to strengthen the midfield which will indirectly aid the defence. just look at barca's midfield; they keep the ball so well which means the defence really don't have to do much. their defence isn't top draw by any standard, it's just their midfield keep the ball so well and cover for them brilliantly. they all work as a unit and i think wengers going for the same approach.. the best form of defence is attack. push the opposition higher up the pitch, constantly put pressure and make sure we keep the ball.

having said that, it was only yesterday wenger said our young defenders are too inexperienced for the premier league and today confirmed squillaci is leaving, so maybe he has plans to sign another defender?

[KSE Comedy Club]

A few people on twitter reckon cazorla will be announced either late tomorrow or on Wednesday.

Also sky sports said we'd signed him on their website, then they removed it.

pic.twitter.com/XNKV2aRx

[Young Guns 11]

A few people on twitter reckon cazorla will be announced either late tomorrow or on Wednesday.

Also sky sports said we'd signed him on their website, then they removed it.

pic.twitter.com/XNKV2aRx


Clearly a fake pic mate :lol:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Ah well, I can't tell on my tiny iPhone screen!

[Cripps_orig]

Juventus plan to spend £70m on Arsenal striker Robin van Persie, 28. The package includes both the transfer fee and the player's wages and is intended to ensure they beat Manchester United and Manchester City to his signature.
Full story: Daily Mirror

How about they give us the £70m and pay RVP £0 a week?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

A few people on twitter reckon cazorla will be announced either late tomorrow or on Wednesday.

Also sky sports said we'd signed him on their website, then they removed it.

pic.twitter.com/XNKV2aRx

Smash? Is Richard Keys back?

[Syn]

Update by Malaga: http://malagacf.diariosur.es/noticias/2012-07-31/venta-malaga-enfria-reactiva-20120731.html

Seems cazorla wants to come and Malaga are resigned to losing him. But are adamant that the sale of the club is an independent issue and so Arsenal will need to fork out a good fee if they want him.

[Flavs]

All this talk of them having to pay their La Liga fee's, cant they just use their champs league money for that?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That's credit they don't have yet - they could get knocked out of the play-off round after all.

[Flavs]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19059613

Straight swap for Arshavin

[GP]

I wouldn't mind Dempsey but he shouldn't be a priority.

Get Cazorla in first.

[LDG]

Mr Arseblog seems to think Barca are in for Song. Piece in "Sport" the spanish rag.

apparently he's refusing to sign a new contract. :shrug:

[Syn]

IF that is true, I wouldn't be at all worried that arsenal will be without Song. I'll be worried that Barcelona are interested in someone who is not top notch. As we know, they only poach our very best players such as Fabregas and Hleb.

If it facilitates the m'vila transfer I'm all for it.

[Grebbo]

Yeah I agree with Syn. No way is Song technically good enough for Barca, he'd stand out like a sore thumb in their team. If they wanted that kind of player they wouldn't have sold Toure who's far superior to Song.

[KSE Comedy Club]

They aren't in for song.

It's from an opinion piece that suggests they should look at getting song to replace Keita.

It pure paper talk.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Not worried at all if Song goes.

Do not forget, we have also...oh.

:(

[Cripps_orig]

Song wont go anywhere

No other team in the world will give him the luxury of playing that offensively as he does for us seeing as hes a DM

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I wouldn't mind Dempsey Wow.:faint:

[Bergkampwonderland10]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19059613

Straight swap for Arshavin

:pray:
He wants CL football, he wants to stay in London and he's a class act....please Wenger see this!

[The Ogg Monster]

Dempsey? Fulham regect and nearly 30. No thanks.

[Boss]

We need to stop pretending Song is a DM and use him as a third in the midfield three that does both attacking and defending, something like how Yaya Toure plays for Citeh (alongside a pure DM).

We do that and he will be world class, no point looking at selling him.

[Flavs]

Dempsey? Fulham regect and nearly 30. No thanks.

23 goals in 45 games last season for Fulham...yes please

[Xhaka Can’t]

If he is approaching 30 all the more reason for us to take a punt on him. We can still do with more experienced heads. Also he is someone who does not need a period to adapt to the EPL game.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Plus he has a nasty streak of American dickishness.

[GP]

Gooby plz

[Syn]

Wenger KnowsBest ‏@wengerknowsbest
You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout, I'm telling you why. Is Santi Cazorla coming to town? No.
:haha:

[Marc Overmars]

I would certainly have Dempsey here, goals from midfield and a great set piece on him. I'm sure he'd be a hit with the fans because he's one of those players with an infectious attitude on the pitch.

However I doubt we have any intentions to sign him and Liverpool seems like his likely destination anyway.

[Flavs]

I still wouldnt be surprised to see RvP go to Chelsea and Walcott to Liverpool

[bignev]

I still wouldnt be surprised to see RvP go to Chelsea and Walcott to Liverpool

If we replace Walcott with Carloza that wouldn't be so bad. Although you know he would become good for them :banghead:

RVP to Chelsea is something that i'm surprised we haven't heard more about. They're European champions, they have the money and they are spending big. It could happen :(

[The Ogg Monster]

Massive Bollocks.

[Power n Glory]

If we replace Walcott with Carloza that wouldn't be so bad. Although you know he would become good for them :banghead:

RVP to Chelsea is something that i'm surprised we haven't heard more about. They're European champions, they have the money and they are spending big. It could happen :(

A London club and they could do with more firepower. Surprised they haven't tabled a bid as well.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm not surprised at all, I think it's evident Abramovich is going down a younger route at the moment.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
Imagine this scenario....
Podolski for Van Persie
Giroud for Bendtner
Cazorla for Arshavin
Sahin for Denilson
Sakho for Squillacci
Dempsey for Vela
and Cesar for Almunia all in one summer....

7 in and 7 out


You can wake up now.

Has it happened yet?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Press conference at 7.

[Kyle?]

A London club and they could do with more firepower. Surprised they haven't tabled a bid as well.

Roman's obviously putting all his eggs in the Torres basket.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Press conference at 7.

Whose week is it this time?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We still have a few days for SC, then it will probably be back to Ganso.

[Syn]

Malaga website:


The sale of Cazorla seems decided. It is most likely that the Spaniard never again wear the shirt-white, unless a miracle occurs. The transfer of the most expensive player in club history (cost 19 million) to Arsenal in a week seems unstoppable uncertain and crucial for the immediate future of Malaga. The team likely will be without one of its most prominent symbols.
The two clubs have already discussed, negotiated and almost decided, so that Malaga can accept the offer from Arsenal at any time. Martiricos entity, despite everything, sell the player without meaning to. And it will probably at a price below what it would like. But circumstances rule: Arsenal has convinced both the player and his representative and on the other hand, this operation will bring to the organization income that will give some short-term peace.
Between Monday and Tuesday were two meetings to finalize the sale of Cazorla. The two clubs met to try and direct a way this operation, which had previously been controlled by player agents. The big midfielder campaign placed him for some months in the crosshairs of more computers. But it was Arsenal who took the lead and directly contacted the player's agent, something very common in almost all the clubs, although the case of players under contract in force with other teams.
Malaga, in principle, thought to retain the player, but the circumstances have been changing over the weeks. Arsenal managed to do their part to the player's agent, who always went for the exit of Cazorla with the aim of advancing a football as attractive as English. From there the British team always tried to take advantage of the situation in Malaga to get a good price. Martiricos club, thus, is very difficult to retain the player, almost impossible. Even, it would not be easy to bring to fruition a better offer from another team, as the player probably would not accept more than leave Arsenal.
Immediate response
Acceptance of the offer from Arsenal can today, although there is no guarantee that it will be. But beginning in August and staff has returned from the Venezuelan tour, which curb the start of the season and force the decision-making. Hence, the departure of midfielder can materialize immediately, unless something new appears to prevent this transfer.
Besides Cazorla, yet there remains the option to leave the Malaga Rondon. This issue is not new. The player agreed to extend his contract and improve your chip, leading to both the player and the club to consider him to leave. There were some teams interested in Venezuela, although not yet formalized any offer. But still it is possible that something new may appear on the front.

Mata of time. Seems like cazorla only wants to go to Arsenal even if an offer comes in elsewhere. Some fucking good work from us for a change. Did we say the exact opposite to van persie?

[I_Killed_Kenny]

interesting to see its actually on the club website rather than just paper twaddle. crossing the t's dotting the i's time i guess. now bring on mvilla and a decent LB that can actually defend!

[Flavs]

:pray:

So, just a reality check. Last season we bought Arteta, Mertersacker, Gervinho, Andre Santos, Benyaoun (on loan) Park Ju-Sung and Joel Campbell, Jenko and Oxygen-Chamber

This year, so far, we have bought Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla

And so far have let Fabregash go home, sold the French Lady-boy, potentially got rid of ****y shitebag Walcott and Oneseason Van Persie and a load of deadwood

But dont forget "we never buy anyone" and "we are a selling club" and "Wenger never buys any established players" and "We only ever buy clubs"

[Joker]

The only decent signings last season were Arteta, Mertesacker possibly and Oxlade, while Benayoun did well but was only a stop gap. Park was a waste, Santos is shit, Gervinho dissapointed and Jenkinson doesn't look ready at all. Yes, he bought more established players than normal, but a few of those "established" players were clearly not good enough.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

We still have a few days for SC, then it will probably be back to Ganso.

Sounds like as good a reason as any to crack open that bottle of Blue Nun I had been saving for Letters's wedding

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Malaga website:



Mata of time. Seems like cazorla only wants to go to Arsenal even if an offer comes in elsewhere. Some fucking good work from us for a change. Did we say the exact opposite to van persie?

Maybe its because I am only used to seeing us get fucked over, or I am not used to heaeing us act in such a seemingly way but by the way that article is written/(translated) I almost feel sorry for the loves. . .can see the Malaga doing a lemming suicide dive off the nearest cliffs

[selassie]

I might be jumping the gun a bit here but we've done some excellent business this summer, top work from Arsene and all. Giroud & Podolski were both good captures IMHO, sure I've not seen their performances for us yet but they are the type of player we should be going for.

Santi will be some coup too assuming this gets completed in the next few days.

If RVP still wants out after these signings then he's talking nonsense about ambition, we've so far shown a lot of amibition in this window.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We really need to shore up the midfield. Unless we're planning to win all our games 5-4

[Young Guns 11]

If RVP still wants out after these signings then he's talking nonsense about ambition, we've so far shown a lot of amibition in this window.

:gp:

Would completely undermine his comments and prove what an utter dickweasel he is

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That article isn't from the Malaga website. Not that it matters as I anticipate it will happen anyway.

[boss_king]

please where is that article from?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Spanish international Santi Cazorla is due to fly into London this week for a medical with Arsenal, Sky Sports understands.

The Malaga midfielder wants to quit the troubled club - whose Qatarian owners are looking to sell.

Despite a takeover looking likely, Cazorla is pressing for his sale to go through and he looks set to get his wish.

A deal worth around €22million (£17.3million) looks set to be agreed between the two clubs.

The player's representatives have already held talks with Arsenal and they are happy with the proposed deal on offer at the Emirates.

Malaga paid €19million to Villarreal just 12 months ago, but they have huge unpaid debts of around €40million which need settling this week.

Talks with Albanian oil company Taci have broken down and, whilst there is Russian and Middle East interest, the deal to sell Cazorla looks like it is needed to help sort out their current mess.

Sky Sports understands that Cazorla should be in England within the next 48 hours to conclude a deal, which would be a major coup for Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.
The 27-year-old, a regular in Spain's all-conquering international squad, helped Malaga into the top four in La Liga last season.

[Marc Overmars]

Cazorla. :bow:

What a man.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

please where is that article from?

Just some Spanish journalist or online news place I think.

Also, Cazorla. :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Our very own Spanish midget. :dance:

Cesc didn't count because he was a GHEL.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

Are you watching RVP?

[Asthmatic Kitty]

please please please let us get what we want this time

[Power n Glory]

:pray: Please be true!

[dazthegooner]

Are you watching RVP?

Nope he's too busy up his own arse! <_<

[I_Killed_Kenny]

he's gotta be thinking how much of a fool he could end up looking like now hs PR stunt is going tits up! anyways - fingers crossed we tie this up and now start shoring up the defensive side

[Japan Shaking All Over]

he's gotta be thinking how much of a fool he could end up looking like now hs PR stunt is going tits up! anyways - fingers crossed we tie this up and now start shoring up the defensive side

No-one is bigger than the club (except FY that is. . .) If we bring this guy in, which is looking very likely and then I imagine we may move to the midfield, Sahin would do the trick then there might not be a bigger sign to RvP that the door thata way >>>

Wenger the doorman :bow:

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

:smh:

[Marc Overmars]

So attacking wise are we pretty much set now? Could probably do with another striker for Giroud to compete with, as we know Chakma won't provide much.

I'd like a new CM as well, someone to give Song a kick up the arse. Otherwise I'm very pleased so far with our business.

[Ollie the Optimist]

looking at the signings we have made, podolski and giroud, and the two we are about to complete according to pretty much everyone now, cazorla and sahin. if this is the direction that van persie doesnt agree with, then im with wenger

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Reckon that may be it on the attack front, there is always that guy from Caen who I know is a youngster but we will go with what is left, keep Walcott and have him as back up. There is always a chance that RvP goes no where. . .byt whats for sure we are sure as heck covering our arses and showing that we have intent and ambition if he does walk. . .as I said the door is thata way and Theo wants to take note of that too because he could be next served his notice

Wenger aint ramping this year

[Ollie the Optimist]

So attacking wise are we pretty much set now? Could probably do with another striker for Giroud to compete with, as we know Chakma won't provide much.

I'd like a new CM as well, someone to give Song a kick up the arse. Otherwise I'm very pleased so far with our business.

mvila :pray:

[Ollie the Optimist]

So attacking wise are we pretty much set now? Could probably do with another striker for Giroud to compete with, as we know Chakma won't provide much.

I'd like a new CM as well, someone to give Song a kick up the arse. Otherwise I'm very pleased so far with our business.

on a serious note though, if we can get cazorla, sahin, mvila, added too podolski and giroud then it shows that we mean buisness, we are up for the challenge and that wenger has changed. plus you dont need a sugar daddy to compete

[Xhaka Can’t]

on a serious note though

Doh, a deer.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

mvila :pray:

Yeah. . .I dont believe Wenger is put off by the bad boy stories, reckon this is another ruse to get the price down. I mean we havent heard anything about anyone else seriously in for him, taking our place as a potential suitor. . .but I also like the sound of the Sahin deal. . .both is a stretch

[Seymour Butts]

looking at the signings we have made, podolski and giroud, and the two we are about to complete according to pretty much everyone now, cazorla and sahin. if this is the direction that van persie doesnt agree with, then im with wenger


Ive not heard any developments on Sahin recently? To be honest I would be surprised if it was us he was joing. More likely to be Spuds - loads of history between Maureen and Wenger and also AVB is Maureens preotege. Plus they might loan him to spuds to sweeten the Modric deal.

[Boss]

Will be pleasantly surprised if we get Cazorla.

Quite excited for the new season :scarf:

[Seymour Butts]

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/907020-jose-mourinho-to-meet-with-nuri-sahin-to-decide-on-tottenham-loan

[I_Killed_Kenny]

not bothered about sahin as he would be a loan. would rather go for mvilla as that will be permanent. Also what happened to all talk about biglia instead of mvilia, has this guy moved somehwere? by all accounts he seems like a damn good player too.

[selassie]

I think we'll only move for M'Vila if Song wants out and makes noises about Barca.

[Seymour Butts]

not bothered about sahin as he would be a loan. would rather go for mvilla as that will be permanent. Also what happened to all talk about biglia instead of mvilia, has this guy moved somehwere? by all accounts he seems like a damn good player too.

If he would give us a better chance of winning the PL then I'd take him - loan or no loan!

Whats peoples take on how we will line up next season assuming Santi comes in and RVP goes?

[I_Killed_Kenny]

If he would give us a better chance of winning the PL then I'd take him - loan or no loan!

Whats peoples take on how we will line up next season assuming Santi comes in and RVP goes?

i didnt mean that, if thats our only option in DM to get in then fine. but ideally would want someone permanent.

[Ollie the Optimist]

i didnt mean that, if thats our only option in DM to get in then fine. but ideally would want someone permanent.

sahin isnt a dm though

[I_Killed_Kenny]

would see song arteta and caz in MF with caz being the more venturous, pod LW, giroud and theo RW

[I_Killed_Kenny]

sahin isnt a dm though


tbh thats what i thought, havent seen much of him but reports say he had played for dortmund in that position? apologies if i am wrong. is he another deep lying playmaker type player?

[Ollie the Optimist]

tbh thats what i thought, havent seen much of him but reports say he had played for dortmund in that position? apologies if i am wrong. is he another deep lying playmaker type player?

he is a jack type player, hence why we want him, cover for jack to ease him back into action

[Seymour Butts]

i didnt mean that, if thats our only option in DM to get in then fine. but ideally would want someone permanent.

Sahin is not technically a DM - more of a deep lying playmaker from what Ive seen......whisc admittedly is not alot. Not seen alot of Mvila either though to be honest

[I_Killed_Kenny]

lmao! blond moment!

[Seymour Butts]

would see song arteta and caz in MF with caz being the more venturous, pod LW, giroud and theo RW

Dont think we will get the best out of Podolski on the wing TBH

[I_Killed_Kenny]

niether do i but thats where i think he will be played if we stick to 4-3-3.

[Flavs]

would see song arteta and caz in MF with caz being the more venturous, pod LW, giroud and theo RW

Cazorla will replace Walcott on the right

[Seymour Butts]

Cazorla will replace Walcott on the right

Thats what I hoped! Do you still think Poldolski will play wide left with Giroud being played as a hold up/traget man striker? Would quite like to see Podolski up front

[I_Killed_Kenny]

with our history of playing players outa position i wont hold my breathe but i would like a change in formation with 2 up top.

[Flavs]

Thats what I hoped! Do you still think Poldolski will play wide left with Giroud being played as a hold up/traget man striker? Would quite like to see Podolski up front

Yes Giroud up top but he likes to drift out to the right which means the door would be open for the Pod who yes i belief would be playing on the left as he does for Germany wide of Gomes

[fakeyank]

I can see Wenger playing Giroud on the right or left for some reason :lol:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01602/wenger_1602461c.jpg

[I_Killed_Kenny]

dont forget, we have song who can play there

[4-3-3]

Sahin is not technically a DM - more of a deep lying playmaker from what Ive seen......whisc admittedly is not alot. Not seen alot of Mvila either though to be honest

no worry, i hope you have seen a bit of eisfiled..he is defo better than sahin.. take note.

[Master Splinter]

Collins out:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19076460

Vlaar in:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19021133

[Kyle?]

We still have a few days for SC, then it will probably be back to Ganso.

Hasn't ganso stated he's staying in Brazil?

[AKBapologist]

Victor Wanyama
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2181800/Manchester-United-Arsenal-watch-Victor-Wanyama-again.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnIDo0WbfiQ

[Kyle?]

Victor Wanyama
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2181800/Manchester-United-Arsenal-watch-Victor-Wanyama-again.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnIDo0WbfiQ

We;re still in for him are we?

[AKBapologist]

Who knows.

Also:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19086404

sent from a fone

[Flavs]

The beeb have been reading GW again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19086404

[Marc Overmars]

Looks like the Sahin deal could be a goer. Never really convinced by loan deals but as Wiltshere was all an illusion, Sahin would provide a decent option in the interim.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

my skysports app say the times reckon sahin has chosen us. sorry cant get a link though so cant read the article for any quotes

[Flavs]

plus that would up The German contingent to 4

Germans :bow:

[Flavs]

Also Yennaris has signed a new contract, he might think Bac rebreaking his leg was the best thing for his career...but I am sure he wouldnt :whistle:

[Özim]

Looks like the Sahin deal could be a goer. Never really convinced by loan deals but as Wiltshere was all an illusion, Sahin would provide a decent option in the interim.
No me neither, be gutted if he did really well and we just had to hand him back at the end of the season.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

hopefully we will insert a 1st option clause into the loan and see how it pans out

[Xhaka Can’t]

The beeb have been reading GW again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19086404

It is a step up on Lineker's cycling research.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

From one of the Spain based posters on Redcafe:


Malaga, in tonight's episode the club is for sale and its current owners are determined not to spend any more money (aka pay their debts).

Looks like everyone at Malaga is for sale. Pellegrini has apparently been told to get a new job as they can't pay him. Toulalan is supposed to be working on the same assumption. The squad voted to continue training today seemingly on the basis that the club will collapse if they don't carry on, and they'll find new jobs easier if they do keep working.

Barring a sudden rescue by some eccentric billionaire (with a yacht in Malaga) Cazorla will indeed move in the next few days and Isco won't be far behind.

:haha:

Dirty money. :bow:

Ambition. :bow:

[GP]

Good god :doh:

[Flavs]

Spain's very own Pompey :bow:

I would take Toulalan as well for that matter

[Marc Overmars]

Anyone else from Malaga we could poach?

[Ollie the Optimist]

No me neither, be gutted if he did really well and we just had to hand him back at the end of the season.

surely it would be better to be gutted to hand him back after doing really well for us then not to have him at all

[Flavs]

Also if you look at their squad, which is rather good tbh...this comes up

Rutgerus "Ruud" Johannes Martinus Van Nistelrooy



​Rutgerus?? :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Anyone else from Malaga we could poach?

Baptista. :bow:

[Flavs]

Anyone else from Malaga we could poach?

http://www.soccer-spain.com/ssdocs/squads2011/div1/malaga.php

you can have the lot for a tenner

[GP]

Kameni :bow:

[I_Killed_Kenny]

Spain's very own Pompey :bow:

I would take Toulalan as well for that matter

think we were linked with toulalan for a while before he went malaga

malaga gona get bitch raped!

[Özim]

surely it would be better to be gutted to hand him back after doing really well for us then not to have him at all
Not really, if he did well we'd have the fill the gap he left behind thus effectively weakening our team again.

I'd rather not have a player than have one that does really well for one season and makes us regret we didn't sign him permanently.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come next summer there might be somebody else available. Personally I don't think he'll be featuring for Real Madrid much in any case, especially if they do get Modric.

[Syn]

We give our top players away anyway remember? So what's the difference?

A loan deal with a top player is better than none. Bet he turns out a bit average in this league though.

[Flavs]

Will take him 8 months to get used to he speed of the prem by which time we will have been relegated and liquidated

[AKBapologist]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120802/cazorla-his-way-london-arsenal-medical-177813?

[AKBapologist]

Cazorla at Heathrow today.
http://i.imgur.com/vpXqb.jpg

[GP]

He's five foot six
He's five foot siiiiix
We've got Cazorla
So suck on our dicks!

[I_Killed_Kenny]

sorry and please gun me down but i am pretty sure thats madrid airport.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Not really, if he did well we'd have the fill the gap he left behind thus effectively weakening our team again.

I'd rather not have a player than have one that does really well for one season and makes us regret we didn't sign him permanently.

wait so you moan that we never sign anyone of quality, always signing kids, never want to win, then when we are about to sign someone good, albeit on loan, its suddenly not good enough for you. what do you fucking want from arsenal to be happy?

[I_Killed_Kenny]

He's five foot six
He's five foot siiiiix
We've got Cazorla
So suck on our dicks!

quality!

[Cripps_orig]

More excited about Sahin coming in than Cazorla

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Goddammit. This mean it is time for http://i49.tinypic.com/5nubh2.gif

[McNamara That Ghost...]

sorry and please gun me down but i am pretty sure thats madrid airport.

Cazorla would never go to Madrid!

[Seymour Butts]

If we do secure Cazorla and Sahin I would be genuinely excited about a season for the first time in a long while. With those additions and Bouldy working hard on our defence and defending as a unit I think we are in with a genuine shout of some silverware! Ive not felt that we have been genuine contenders for a long time - with these additions and a shake up on the coaching front (Wookash has confirmed that Bouldy has been working very hard with defence) I think we are in for a good season

[Özim]

wait so you moan that we never sign anyone of quality, always signing kids, never want to win, then when we are about to sign someone good, albeit on loan, its suddenly not good enough for you. what do you fucking want from arsenal to be happy?
What do I want, permanent signings.....to so hard to understand is it?

[Seymour Butts]

What do I want, permanent signings.....to so hard to understand is it?

So you would rather we have less quality in the team for the coming season? Surely it is better to have the best players at your disposal for the coming season wether they are on loan or not!

[AKBapologist]

Sahin on loan is RM's wish, Arsenal are trying to get an option to buy after loan period. Either way, RM values him at +20mill which is way beyond what were able to pay.

[GP]

So you would rather we have less quality in the team for the coming season? Surely it is better to have the best players at your disposal for the coming season wether they are on loan or not!

:gp:

[Seymour Butts]

What do I want, permanent signings.....to so hard to understand is it?

Plus there is nothing to suggest that there will not be an option to extend. What we need is for Modric to go there and play a blinder so that they decide that they no longer require Sahin

[AKBapologist]

Sahin's more a DM, played as a fullback during pre season.

[Seymour Butts]

Sahin's more a DM, played as a fullback during pre season.

I think he is more of a deep lying playmaker to be honest - would be nice if he is and also has a bit of steel to his game! Would be nice to have a midfield packed with midfielders that have a very good all round game - Song, Arteta and Sahin sounds tasty!

[Ollie the Optimist]

What do I want, permanent signings.....to so hard to understand is it?

yes it is hard to understand because it makes no sense. you moan that we havnt won anything for 7 years, never sign anyone decent etc etc and when we are about to get a decent player on loan, you moan because its not a permenant signing. basically you are just finding any excuse to have a go at wenger because he is proving you wrong right now

[Özim]

So you would rather we have less quality in the team for the coming season? Surely it is better to have the best players at your disposal for the coming season wether they are on loan or not!
It's about building a team for me rather than a short term fix, loan players aren't going to help you build a team. We've tried the shortcuts with signing cheap players and it doesn't work, we should focus on building a team from now on.

So far it's encouraging, but loan signings don't work for me unless they're players like Bennayoun that we realistically don't want to keep long term.

[Özim]

Plus there is nothing to suggest that there will not be an option to extend. What we need is for Modric to go there and play a blinder so that they decide that they no longer require Sahin
If he does well it's highly likely they'll want him back or that some other team might want him IMO.

[Seymour Butts]

I think he is more of a deep lying playmaker to be honest - would be nice if he is and also has a bit of steel to his game! Would be nice to have a midfield packed with midfielders that have a very good all round game - Song, Arteta and Sahin sounds tasty!

In fact the below line up is possitively mouth watering

----------------Wookash-------------------

Sagna------Kos-----------Verm----------Santos

------------song-----Arteta-----Sahin--------

-----Cozorla---------------------------Podolski

------------------Giroud/RVP------------------

[Ollie the Optimist]

It's about building a team for me rather than a short term fix, loan players aren't going to help you build a team. We've tried the shortcuts with signing cheap players and it doesn't work, we should focus on building a team from now on.

So far it's encouraging, but loan signings don't work for me unless they're players like Bennayoun that we realistically don't want to keep long term.

since when? you have slaughtered wenger every season for all this, we are building a team etc

[Seymour Butts]

It's about building a team for me rather than a short term fix, loan players aren't going to help you build a team. We've tried the shortcuts with signing cheap players and it doesn't work, we should focus on building a team from now on.

So far it's encouraging, but loan signings don't work for me unless they're players like Bennayoun that we realistically don't want to keep long term.

If the short term fix brings us some silverware then I am all for it!

[Cripps_orig]

In fact the below line up is possitively mouth watering

----------------Wookash-------------------

Sagna------Kos-----------Verm----------Santos

------------song-----Arteta-----Sahin--------

-----Cozorla---------------------------Podolski

------------------Giroud/RVP------------------

Theo has to start surely

Cazorla in the middle, Arteta can play his sideways passes for someone else

[Seymour Butts]

Theo has to start surely

Cazorla in the middle, Arteta can play his sideways passes for someone else

On his day Wallcott is brilliant - shame his day is only 1 in every 5 or 6 games! He is just not consistent enough - maybe more competition for places will bring out the best in him. I hope it does Arteta was one of our best players last season IMO - does an awful lot that goes un noticed - only have to look at the stats of games lost and won with/without him in the team.

[Flavs]

In fact the below line up is possitively mouth watering

----------------Wookash-------------------

Sagna------Kos-----------Verm----------Santos

------------song-----Arteta-----Sahin--------

-----Cozorla---------------------------Podolski

------------------Giroud/RVP------------------

Shit I am dribbling like Adele waiting for Greggs to open at that

[Flavs]

Theo has to start surely

Cazorla in the middle, Arteta can play his sideways passes for someone else

Shit WUMming tbh even by your piss poor standards

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shit I am dribbling like Adele waiting for Greggs to open at that

Adele has good taste.

[Cripps_orig]

Shit WUMming tbh even by your piss poor standards
Arteta was decent but Cazorla is better than him

Just makes sense to start a better player

[Flavs]

Adele has good taste.

She is well practised tbf

[Syn]

Srsly, Oxlade is an automatic starter no mata who we sign. I ain't even wumming tho you get 'me?

[Flavs]

Arteta was decent but Cazorla is better than him

Just makes sense to start a better player

Our team doesn't work without Arteta in it, simple as that. Also Walcott isn't the best tbh so a little rotation option would be best for the team.

Also thanks for answering properly

[Seymour Butts]

Arteta was decent but Cazorla is better than him

Just makes sense to start a better player

Agreed which is why Cazorla should start on the flank and Arteta in the middle as bot are more productive and consistent than Walcott - as you say makes sense to start with better players! Id even be tempted to start the Ox ahead of walcott

[Seymour Butts]

Our team doesn't work without Arteta in it, simple as that. Also Walcott isn't the best tbh so a little rotation option would be best for the team.

Also thanks for answering properly

Totally agree - I think Arteta is one of the most underatted players we have. I dont know why some fans dont see the value of having him in the side. I think he will have an even better season this year.

[Cripps_orig]

Cazorla can do whatever Arteta can do and be more offensive as well.

Theo for me is a Must Start when hes fit. Goals, assists, pace, scares the shit out of the opposition, goes past players, not really in tune with the tippy tappy shit etc, he has it all. Needs to sign a contract asap.

Rotation is always good though and having Cazorla who can play there when needed is also good

And dont forget, Song can also play there

[Cripps_orig]

Agreed which is why Cazorla should start on the flank and Arteta in the middle as bot are more productive and consistent than Walcott - as you say makes sense to start with better players! Id even be tempted to start the Ox ahead of walcott

Ox isnt better than Theo

[I_Killed_Kenny]

how abouts 4-2-3-1.

back 5

----------song ------- arteta

Theo -------- Cazorla (free role)----------- Ipod

------Giroud

[Seymour Butts]

Srsly, Oxlade is an automatic starter no mata who we sign. I ain't even wumming tho you get 'me?

I see him having a massive part to play this year but not sure he is an automatic starter just yet - but really think this will be a breakthrough year for him. The point is that we would also now have a very strong bench which lets be honest we have not had in a good while

[Ollie the Optimist]

Ox isnt better than Theo


however he does scare defenders more then theo because he takes them on. theo doesnt, if the ball goes behind he will out pace defenders but he just doesnt take them on, the ox will run at them making him more scary to defenders

[Seymour Butts]

Cazorla can do whatever Arteta can do and be more offensive as well.

Theo for me is a Must Start when hes fit. Goals, assists, pace, scares the shit out of the opposition, goes past players, not really in tune with the tippy tappy shit etc, he has it all. Needs to sign a contract asap.

Rotation is always good though and having Cazorla who can play there when needed is also good

And dont forget, Song can also play there

You also forgot to mention running down blind alleys, giving away posession, falling over ALOT! As I say on his day he is brilliant but those days are few and far between.

[Seymour Butts]

however he does scare defenders more then theo because he takes them on. theo doesnt, if the ball goes behind he will out pace defenders but he just doesnt take them on, the ox will run at them making him more scary to defenders

Exactly - Theo is great in a straight up drag race or at pushing it past defenders and running onto it but doesnt have the trickery of OX - Ox is as quick as Theo too ive heard

[AKBapologist]

No he isn't.


Also
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/907165-arsenal-set-to-beat-tottenham-to-nuri-sahin-after-madrid-allow-loan-move

sent from a fone

[Fist of Lehmann]

It's thought that Arsenal turned to Sahin after being told Jack Wilshere will not be fit for the start of the season.

We don't sign players to cover injuries though. And Diaby coming back is like 3 or 4 new signings.

Signing Sahin as cover would be unusually belt and braces for us, unless Jack is more seriously borked than advertised.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We don't sign players to cover injuries though. And Diaby coming back is like 3 or 4 new signings.

Signing Sahin as cover would be unusually belt and braces for us, unless Jack is more seriously borked than advertised.


i dont think its jack being more injured then said but more the club want to get him back into action slowly rather then rush him back, having a player like sahin allows that and takes pressure off him to perform straight away

[Ollie the Optimist]

rumours are that we have signed cazorla for around 12 million. and according the a malaga based journalist, we havnt finished shopping at malaga either

[Flavs]

We don't sign players to cover injuries though. And Diaby coming back is like 3 or 4 new signings.

Signing Sahin as cover would be unusually belt and braces for us, unless Jack is more seriously borked than advertised.

Isnt it just the same as signing Benayoun last season?

[I_Killed_Kenny]

rumours are that we have signed cazorla for around 12 million. and according the a malaga based journalist, we havnt finished shopping at malaga either


:popcorn:

[GP]

Isnt it just the same as signing Benayoun last season?

Nah Sahin is good lol

[McNamara That Ghost...]

rumours are that we have signed cazorla for around 12 million. and according the a malaga based journalist, we havnt finished shopping at malaga either

Baps is coming home!

[Flavs]

Nah Sahin is good lol

Not according to Jose Mourinho...who i think bought Benayoun?

[Fist of Lehmann]

Baps is coming home!

:haha:

Very interesting. Toulalan and Rondon are also apparently unhappy with the situation.

That's probably some of their most saleable assets along with Isco.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Also, time for the Cazorla stuff to go in his thread now I reckon. Although it's slightly concerning this is now the very recently updated main article...

www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/diaby-i-can-t-wait-to-play-with-arteta

:lol:

[Master Splinter]

Also, time for the Cazorla stuff to go in his thread now I reckon. Although it's slightly concerning this is now the very recently updated main article...

www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/diaby-i-can-t-wait-to-play-with-arteta

:lol:

WUMger definitely commissioned that.

WUMger :bow:.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He's creative with his WUMmery.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are considering Celtic's Victor Wanyama, 21, as a replacement for Alex Song, if Barcelona make a substantial bid for the 24-year-old.
Full story: Daily Mail

Who?

[Kyle?]

Who?

Big physical beast from the SPL. Very mixed reviews on him though, some keen, some not so sure.

[Thierrymon]

We cant afford to let Song go. Massive player for us.

[Kyle?]

We cant afford to let Song go. Massive player for us.

I disagree, he's the weak link in our side. He's a good player, no question of his ability, but he is NOT a DM. The sooner Wenger stops treating him as such, the better, and the way wenger has been this offseason personnel wise, i do have faith in him to rectify this soon.

[Thierrymon]

The guy has a lot of massive qualities and impressive skill for his size. He just needs a bit of discipline in his movement i think. Plus he is not afraid to stick it to the opposition and show them who is boss, we need players that can do that. He is an intimidating figure.

Unless we bring in a quality replacement i dont think there is anyone in our current squad that could cover his loss.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

It's about building a team for me rather than a short term fix, loan players aren't going to help you build a team. We've tried the shortcuts with signing cheap players and it doesn't work, we should focus on building a team from now on.

So far it's encouraging, but loan signings don't work for me unless they're players like Bennayoun that we realistically don't want to keep long term.


I do get what youre saying but same disagree a tadge. The reason is we are not in the moneybags position that some of the others are and our building requires more time. I know we have made mistakes with the way we build ie Wenger Youth etc but I do think we are showing encouraging signs.
Last year seemed like a glut of panic buys but they stopped a rot and even though we won nothing and finished far behind we stablised as a unit IMO

Wenger first two buys and Carzorla are strong intent buys, future buildong in mind, Sahin is a quality player who we cannot spunk a shed load on at this stage but could next year as we cant buy everyone in one go like the others.

Benny was never going to get the buy after option but we should ne looking at that with Sahin, someone said 20 mil, a good season with us and we will nab him for half that.
He is also only 23 or so whicj makes even more sense. I say loans for players who we can realistically see playing for us after the spell is over, makes sense as long as we have the buy option in place.
I say bring him in if it doesnt pan out. . .move on

[Master Splinter]

Wigan have beaten West Ham to the signing of Real Mallorca defender Ivan Ramis for an undisclosed fee.

The Hammers agreed a fee with the Spanish club for the 27-year-old at the weekend but he has instead joined their Premier League rivals Wigan on a three-year deal.

Ramis was wanted by Celtic in 2010 but a deal was never completed.

He becomes the Latics' second summer signing after the arrival of Aberdeen midfielder Fraser Fyvie.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19034356

West Ham :haha:.

Fat Sam :haha:.

Dave Whelan :bow:.

[Power n Glory]

I disagree, he's the weak link in our side. He's a good player, no question of his ability, but he is NOT a DM. The sooner Wenger stops treating him as such, the better, and the way wenger has been this offseason personnel wise, i do have faith in him to rectify this soon.

No way is he the weak link. He has his flaws and limitations but he's far from being the weak link.

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah Song is certainly not the weak link. Isn't it about time we stopped thinking about him as a DM anyway? For most of last season he was our only creative outlet in midfield. Of course he's still capable of doing the dirty work in midfield as well, so for my money that makes him an important member of the team.

Only thing I would say is that he needs some competition because he is prone to the odd brain fart.

[Flavs]

Yeah Song is certainly not the weak link. Isn't it about time we stopped thinking about him as a DM anyway? For most of last season he was our only creative outlet in midfield. Of course he's still capable of doing the dirty work in midfield as well, so for my money that makes him an important member of the team.

Only thing I would say is that he needs some competition because he is prone to the odd brain fart.

As a great man once said "Song isn't a defensive midfielder, he is just our most defensive midfielder"

[GP]

I disagree, he's the weak link in our side. He's a good player, no question of his ability, but he is NOT a DM. The sooner Wenger stops treating him as such, the better, and the way wenger has been this offseason personnel wise, i do have faith in him to rectify this soon.

That's right, he isn't a DM, which is why he hasn't been played as one for a long time.

Have you even been watching?

[Power n Glory]

He's turning into a decent box to box player. We need that in the squad. If Diaby was anywhere near Song's level we'd all be hailing him as the new Vieira. Would love to see Diaby and Song in the same squad this season because they're physically strong with good technical ability. We've missed having strength in the middle and if we have a trio of Song, Arteta and Diaby then we're on our way to having the right balance.

[Globalgunner]

Okay chaps. Now that SC is sorted and Sahin likely also. What about the back 4? and a DM. Who was it that once said "Arsene Wenger is a great manager, but he only ever buys attacking players" Yeah that`s right: Alex Ferguson. Come on Wenger.......just do it. Mvilla or Wayannma plus a LB pls as Gibbs is unreliable in more ways than one and Santos is a midfielder not LB.

Oh and hurry up getting rid of the crap clogging up the squad numbers.

[LDG]

That's right, he isn't a DM, which is why he hasn't been played as one for a long time.

Have you even been watching?

It's quite amazing really.

All season long AW and the players were going on about defending as a team, which for the most part, they did. More poorly on some occassions, granted, but mostly pretty well.

Song geos forward, Arteta drops in. Arteta goes forward, song drops in. Ramsey goes box to box. The wingers or fullbacks squeeze in.

Everything we're trying to do, is based on players being able to adjust to a situation. Not someone being in that position already.

[Flavs]

Okay chaps. Now that SC is sorted and Sahin likely also. What about the back 4? and a DM. Who was it that once said "Arsene Wenger is a great manager, but he only ever buys attacking players" Yeah that`s right: Alex Ferguson. Come on Wenger.......just do it. Mvilla or Wayannma plus a LB pls as Gibbs is unreliable in more ways than one and Santos is a midfielder not LB.

Oh and hurry up getting rid of the crap clogging up the squad numbers.

If we sign Sahin and Cazorla, and you can take this to the bank, we dont need anyone else. Now the concentration should be on getting rid of the shit

[Globalgunner]

If we sign Sahin and Cazorla, and you can take this to the bank, we dont need anyone else. Now the concentration should be on getting rid of the shit

I guess i can live with that.

[Syn]

Think Sahin might be available for a permanent move. You'd think a lot more clubs will be interested now though.


“The point is, he’s a young boy, he wants to play every match. He wants to be happy to play, he wants to play to be happy,” Mourinho said. “And in Real Madrid with Xabi Alonso, with [Sami] Khedira, with Lassana [Diarra], [Esteban] Granero, [Mesut] Ozil, the situation is not easy.”

Mourinho said the size of a club such as Madrid makes it challenging for young players to break through, especially when they do not perform well at the beginning, which he hinted was the case with Sahin.

“Real Madrid is very difficult. It is not an easy club, because we demand a lot. We have great players, and when you don’t start well, it is difficult to do it.”

Mourinho concluded by saying that the decision of whether Sahin stays or goes lies with the player, and that he would have no problem coaching him if he stayed.

“If he stays, he’s not a problem for me, he’s one more solution,” Mourinho said, before advising the young Turk to consider his heart and his happiness. “We leave [the situation] in his hands. Be happy. Decide what you want to decide, to be happy. If you decide to leave we are going to help you to leave. If you decide to stay, we are going to support you and try to succeed this season.”

Mourinho :bow:

[4-3-3]

Think Sahin might be available for a permanent move. You'd think a lot more clubs will be interested now though.



Mourinho :bow:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2183090/Jose-Mourinho-fine-Nuri-Sahin-joining-Arsenal.html

[Fist of Lehmann]

Think Sahin might be available for a permanent move. You'd think a lot more clubs will be interested now though.


ARSENAL FACE COMPETITION FOR NURI SAHIN AS GALATASARAY SHOW INTEREST

Nuri Sahin is a target for Arsenal
Friday August 3,2012
By Charlie Dubuck for express.co.uk

ARSENAL will face some competition if they are to clinch Real Madrid's Nuri Sahin on loan.

Jose Mourinho has said he is happy for Sahin to go to Arsenal on loan but now Turkish club Galatasaray have shown interest.

Looks like the race is on.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2183090/Jose-Mourinho-fine-Nuri-Sahin-joining-Arsenal.html

Maureen all is forgiven :bow:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Looks like the race is on.

He ain't going there......

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

I disagree, he's the weak link in our side. He's a good player, no question of his ability, but he is NOT a DM. The sooner Wenger stops treating him as such, the better, and the way wenger has been this offseason personnel wise, i do have faith in him to rectify this soon.

the reason he is viewed as the weak link in our team is because last season he pushed forward a lot, mainly because we lacked creativity. there was no wilshere, cesc or nasri so we were increasingly flat in our attack. song has usually been the outlay from the defence to the midfield, but last season he was the link between the midfield and strikers. if it's anything the cazorla signing will hopefully do its to push song back to the defending role which we need to be bloody doing. there was a massive gap between our defence and midfield last season which plunged us into trouble so many times.

[Jimmy Valmer]

Sahin is an excellent player, inshallah we'll sign him. Our midfield options with him as the deep lying playmaker will be fantastic.

[fakeyank]

Sahin is an excellent player, inshallah we'll sign him. Our midfield options with him as the deep lying playmaker will be fantastic.

Ameen! :pray:

[accountproblem]

All i want for Eid is Sahin!

exciting times ahead lads, COYG

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/xmxvf/sahin_very_well_may_be_coming_to_arsenal_on

sahin's ours

[Marc Overmars]

What a man.

[AKBapologist]

Also:
http://gossip.ladyarse.com/2012/08/left-back-linked-with-arsenal-gifts-japan-a-goal-in-olympic-quarter-finals/

sent from a fone

[Master Splinter]

Would rather sign Judaism Yom Kippur.

sent from a pager

[Cripps_orig]

Manchester United are hoping to derail Arsenal's bid to sign Nuri Sahin, 23, from Real Madrid on loan by making an offer to buy him outright.
Full story: Metro

Santi Cazorla has met his new Arsenal team-mates after the 27-year-old midfielder passed a medical and finalised a £20m move from Malaga.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

Manchester United have agreed a £30million deal for Brazil's Lucas Moura, 19, and are looking to press ahead with their move for Robin van Persie.
Full story: Mail on Sunday

Aston Villa's new signing Ron Vlaar has urged Dutch team-mate Robin van Persie not to join Juventus as it was the Arsenal striker who persuaded him to move to England.
Full story: Mail on Sunday

Arsenal are hopeful that Robin van Persie will stay at the club after the Dutchman was impressed by efforts to improve the squad.
Full story: Daily Star Sunday

Manchester City's Nigel de Jong, 27, is being tracked by Arsenal and Inter Milan as both clubs look to bolster their midfield.
Full story: Footy Latest

Juventus are said to be interested in Salomon Rondon after growing frustrated in their pursuit of Robin van Persie.
Full story: Metro

FFS Sahin wont come here then

Is it confirmed?

Bye

Whos Vlaar?

RVP can fuck off

De Jong :bow:

FFS Juve, buy the ****

[Young Guns 11]

£20m for Cazorla? Where the fuck did that figure come from?

[Master Splinter]

I've seen everything from £9m to £20 million for Cathorla.

I think he'll cost £undisclosedfee.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

£20 million is a safe figure for papers to say, they can just claim they meant it includes wages and all the other assorted crap.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I think the actual figure is £15.67823 1/2m, tbh.

[dazthegooner]

FFS Sahin wont come here then

Is it confirmed?

Bye

Whos Vlaar?

RVP can fuck off

De Jong :bow:

FFS Juve, buy the ****

I don't think that Madrid want to sell outright so a loan deal would suit both parties.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Darrenarsenal1 on twitter (member of AST who usually gives a run down of the meetings on twitter) has said that we are in discussions with clubs to bring in 'at least two other players' other than cazorla.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Darrenarsenal1 on twitter (member of AST who usually gives a run down of the meetings on twitter) has said that we are in discussions with clubs to bring in 'at least two other players' other than cazorla.

DM and defender? hope so

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Darrenarsenal1 on twitter (member of AST who usually gives a run down of the meetings on twitter) has said that we are in discussions with clubs to bring in 'at least two other players' other than cazorla.

Names or GTFO

[Young Guns 11]

Names or GTFO

Some bloke who works for the telegraph said that we've sent senior scouts on 3 separate occasions to look at Wanyama of Celtic - he could be one of them.

[AKBapologist]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2184137/Arsenal-look-Kevin-Mirallas.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NmMJI2MDY4

If RVP goes, we sign that guy, sahin and carzola, we'll fucking win the league.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Names or GTFO

sahin and niang probs.

[AKBapologist]

sahin and niang probs.

We've missed out on niang apparently.
http://younggunsblog.co.uk/2012/08/arsenal-set-to-miss-out-on-luxury-signing-mbaye-niang/?

[4-3-3]

Júlio Baptista ‏@J_Baptista81

"I'd like to send a greeting to my two companions who were, Santi Cazorla and a big hug Salomon Rondon will miss you."”

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No Baps. :(

[Flavs]

Where has Rondon gone?