Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So Wenger has gone in big for a player he couldn't bring in for free last year for a fee he always said he'd give back to the giver if ever offered.....

Hmmm...you sure Mr Olley?

Nevertheless, Mbappe is the real deal...make no mistake. Considerably more talented than Aubameyang IMO.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.beinsports.com/en/premier-league/video/wenger-sanchez-and-ozil-arent-leaving-this-su/558696

Wenger :bow:

He doesn't look too convinced by his own words. But I hope he's being truthful, this time. And I agree. These players are contracted so they need to play to the best of their abilities next season if that's what the club demands of them. After that, if Wenger has done his job properly and brought in credible reinforcements, and if we have mounted a serious challenge for the title and bagged a Euro trophy, well we'll see what happens.

Keeping Ozil and Alexis, even if it means losing them on a free next season, might be the only way out of this mess.

[Gooner23]

Yep, I couldn't give a flying fuck if we lose out financially by forcing them to stay another year so I'd love us to take hard line on this. However history suggests that we will let them go if they don't sign on, Wenger's words are totally hollow. Although I actually think Ozil will stay, he's just going to squeeze as for as much money as possible.

Apparently Wenger has confirmed interest in Mahrez.

[Maestro]

World's 6th Most Valuable Club @ £1.7 Billion
World's 7th Richest Club On Revenue @ £350.4 Million
World's 7th Highest Wage Bill @ £234 Million

.....& World's Most Expensive Season Ticket

No League Title Or Challenge For 13 Years
Nowhere Near A European Title

[Penguin]

Apparently Wenger has confirmed interest in Mahrez.

Wenger said: "Have we made a bid for him? No. Not yet. No, we have not. When I say 'not yet' it means it could happen. It might not happen."

He's even confusing himself now! :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Very poor trade if we lose Alexis and sign Mahrez. If some fans can't stand Ozil "going missing" then wait until they get a load of Mahrez in "action". He's not good enough for Arsenal, but he may be good enough for Wenger and the Wengerites.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Sooo over Mahrez.

[Marc Overmars]

I'd have him here because I think we lack players with a bit of trickery but I wouldn't say he's anywhere near being an essential signing.

[Özim]

I'll take Mahrez, but let's be honest his stock has fallen hugely (no wonder we're interested), could end up being a one season wonder. Wouldn't me my choice of a signing but I'll take it.

[selassie]

I'd take Mahrez but like MO said he's not an Essential signing. I'd also worry that we would misuse Mahrez and that he would stagnate further. He's a good player but blows hot and cold too much for my liking.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Beyond the CF...what's the priority?

[LDG]

Beyond the CF...what's the priority?

A replacement for Santi Cazorla.

[Özim]

Being linked with Arda Turan, quality player but at 30 hardly one who's going to be around long.

[selassie]

Being linked with Arda Turan, quality player but at 30 hardly one who's going to be around long.

Yeah he's a very good player but a short term solution. Could be a Santi replacement, he was playing at a high level for Atletico prior to his move to Barca.

[Thierrymon]

Few sources claiming we will officially announce kolasinac soon. Gibbs rumoured to be off to Newcastle for 15mil.

Also Sanogo has confirmed he is leaving =( I was looking forward to seeing his immense talent in Sydney next month.

[Özim]

Comment from Sanogo made me laugh:


'The injuries stunted my progress, there were moments where I was good. I remember the summer of 2014 when, during the Emirates Cup, I scored a quadruple against Benfica.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4573034/Arsenal-striker-Yaya-Sanogo-confirms-Gunners-exit.html
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4573034/Arsenal-striker-Yaya-Sanogo-confirms-Gunners-exit.html)

Sorry pal but you were never any good, a few goals in a friendly match doesn't count for anything :lol:

Glad we finally got rid, took us 4 years though!

You'd have to be nuts to pay 15 million for Gibbs, firstly he can't defend and secondly he's almost always injured, nice to see we're making a nice tidy profit by picking up Kolasinac though (does anyone know anything about this guy?)!

[Dicks and chicks]

So Liverpool bring in 2 quality players. City bring in 2 quality players and what is arsene doing? Bidding 95 mil for a player who doesn't want to join us

[GP]

So Liverpool bring in 2 quality players. City bring in 2 quality players and what is arsene doing?

Your mum

[Letters]

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We're signing Tape Cassette say BEIN sports.

:unsure:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So Liverpool bring in 2 quality players. City bring in 2 quality players and what is arsene doing? Bidding 95 mil for a player who doesn't want to join us

Is that a genuine complaint?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Sczeney is apparently signing for juventus after impressing at Roma.

[Letters]

We're signing Tape Cassette say BEIN sports.

:unsure:

He hasn't been any good since the 80s :sulk:

[Özim]

Really is season ticket sales times isn't it, look at this nonsense apparently we've sanctioned a £120 million pound bid for Mbappe.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/06/arsenal-prepare-new-and-improved-120-million-transfer-bid-for-monaco-star-kylian-mbappe-6687895/

Sounds like the Arsenal hype machine is at it again, like it is every year at this time, isn't strange how every year around this time and in the summer we always get linked to pipe dream players and apparently make pipe dream bids for players, almost as if someone is trying to keep fans happy with rumours...

[Niall_Quinn]

This would be the quickest and cheapest way to get the majority of fans back onside, if that's something that interests the board and the manager. Plus it will partially insulate against the backlash if Alexis leaves, especially if he goes to the gypos as is looking increasingly likely. This could also be one of the conditions of Wenger's new contract, that he has to start paying some attention to the football team.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bellerin - ‘I do not know anything at the moment. I’m an Arsenal player, but we’ll see what happens.’

Sounds like he's contracted Barca DNA. Slap an 80mill price tag on him and move on. If the second biggest cheats in football want him then get them to pay through the nose.

[Özim]

Bellerin - ‘I do not know anything at the moment. I’m an Arsenal player, but we’ll see what happens.’

Sounds like he's contracted Barca DNA. Slap an 80mill price tag on him and move on. If the second biggest cheats in football want him then get them to pay through the nose.

If he goes they'll get him on the cheap like they did with Cesc, Barca DNA and the fact Wenger will feel sorry for him and want the best for him, also he had a poor season last season.

[Özim]

This would be the quickest and cheapest way to get the majority of fans back onside, if that's something that interests the board and the manager. Plus it will partially insulate against the backlash if Alexis leaves, especially if he goes to the gypos as is looking increasingly likely. This could also be one of the conditions of Wenger's new contract, that he has to start paying some attention to the football team.

Could be, but more likely it's the usual rubbish we hear at this time of the season. Benzema anyone?

[GP]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20170606/sead-kolasinac-to-join-arsenal

That's one in the bag.

[Özim]

Cheap and cheerful.

[Niall_Quinn]

Could be, but more likely it's the usual rubbish we hear at this time of the season. Benzema anyone?

If Mbappe is sensible he'll stay where he is. Better off for him if he's a one season wonder as he'll avoid the stigma of being the world's most expensive flop. If he has another great season at Monaco and then tears it up for France he'll get an even bigger deal next year.

...Nope... tried... Football is boring me too much... I really don't care where this kid ends up or how much the fee is. Players will soon be costing as much as stadiums. Silly sport that has hyped itself into oblivion.

Not watching it any more. Will watch tennis as suggested and wait for the next Olympics.

[Thierrymon]

Pleased with the kolasinac signing. Despite the questionable quiff he looks like the type that isnt going to be bullied on the pitch.

Surely he is the long term replacement for Nacho and Gibbs will be sold.

[Özim]

If Mbappe is sensible he'll stay where he is. Better off for him if he's a one season wonder as he'll avoid the stigma of being the world's most expensive flop. If he has another great season at Monaco and then tears it up for France he'll get an even bigger deal next year.

...Nope... tried... Football is boring me too much... I really don't care where this kid ends up or how much the fee is. Players will soon be costing as much as stadiums. Silly sport that has hyped itself into oblivion.

Not watching it any more. Will watch tennis as suggested and wait for the next Olympics.

They never stay where they are though do they, agents telling them just how much they could get and how great it would be keep to make get their cut.

He's young though, I can see why he'd want to play for some of the worlds biggest clubs, it's hard to turn down for a player of his age.

But yes I'd be wary of paying big money for a player who has just had one good season, plenty of examples of players who never reproduce that kind of season.

[GP]

Pleased with the kolasinac signing. Despite the questionable quiff he looks like the type that isnt going to be bullied on the pitch.

Surely he is the long term replacement for Nacho and Gibbs will be sold.

Regarded as the best LB in germany last year. Instant upgrade on Gibbs if nothing else.

[AFC Leveller]

L'Equipe, who are fairly reliable when it comes to transfers, say we wil come back with an improved 122 mill bid. Insane money for a one season (so far) wonder, really risky for a club like Arsenal.

Not many strikers (if any) available on the market today however so i guess desperation comes into it.

[AFC Leveller]

Regarded as the best LB in germany last year. Instant upgrade on Gibbs if nothing else.

Very good signing IMO, really pleased with it. He is a tough fella, fast and has a magic left foot. Very stocky and a bit of a nut case as well.

[Marc Overmars]

L'Equipe, who are fairly reliable when it comes to transfers, say we wil come back with an improved 122 mill bid. Insane money for a one season (so far) wonder, really risky for a club like Arsenal.

Not many strikers (if any) available on the market today however so i guess desperation comes into it.

You're right it would be very risky. Which is why I don't believe it will happen. Not for 100m+ anyway.

Would be an incredible statement of intent though, Mbappe looks quality. Not sure about him under Wenger's tutelage though...

[Letters]

Watched a video of MmmBop, as I really don't follow football enough to have much of an opinion.
Looks pretty good, although always hard to tell from a compilation. £100m good though? Nah.

[GP]

It's all about potential, innit.

[Özim]

This deal won't happen, I don't believe we've made a bid that high, even if we had its pretty clear he'll end up at Real we have zero chance of signing a player when we're up against them, the best team in the world who win trophies left right and centre or a club on a downward spiral who haven't won anything of note for over a decade.

IMO this is another one of those attempts to persuade people we're trying to sign top players when we know full well we have no chance, it'll probably drag out most of the summer like it always does, we're awful at transfers unless they're free or cheap or noone else of note really wants them.

[Power n Glory]

If Mbappe has any sense, he'll look at the Morata situation before making a decision to move to Real Madrid. Morata is supposed to be on the move again this summer after only just joining Real.

Speaking of Morata, he's another one of our wild goose chase stories. We're falling into a similar pattern we've seen before. A couple of cheap signings very early on and then have a summer saga like we've seen before. Benzema, Higuain, Suarez...so this Mbappe talk is far from convincing. I find it even harder to believe we'd pony up over £100m on 18 year old just like that but we still haven't signed up Sanchez and Ozil to new deals. All bullocks. When have we ever courted a player in public with an opening bid and been successful? The press usually only get a sniff of a transfer story from us once a deal is done, as just seen with our two recent signings. Time to wake up. This story stinks.

[Maestro]

Should we not be bringing back Szczęsny into the fold? Really worried about the ageing Cech and disgruntled Ospina

[Letters]

It's all about potential, innit.

It's a hell of a lot of money to spend on potential - especially with how players come and go these days. If we were going to get 10 years out of him and he comes good then I guess we'd have got value for money but it's a bit of a risk.
The money's completely crazy in football anyway. We were saying that 10 years ago. Probably 20. Keeps getting madder and madder. Who knows what anyone is worth any more?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

The money is crazy.....but he is the real deal and the closest thing to Henry there has ever been...... Not sure I believe the reports but if it is genuine nobody can question the ambition of the club from a transfers point of view and that is a standpoint we have all wanted for a long time.

Distinctly more talented than Kane, Lukaku, Aubameyang, Morata and many more.

[Globalgunner]

I reckon Wenger is desperate enough to pay the 122 million. The kid is worth it as long as he doesnt join us and contract whatever virus that infects them at the training centre and hobbles most of our players for 6 months out of 12.
We would be the best option for him but it means. Welbeck or Walcott or Giroud or all 3 would have to leave. I wouldnt mind dumping the trio if we could persuade Perez to stay. With us, Mbappe would be able to play every game instead of sporadically at Madrid

My guess is Madrid will match any bid we make and also allow him to stay another year at Monaco. We cant afford to do that

[Niall_Quinn]

If Lukaku is going for 100mill then we should put in a bid of 3.6trillion for Mbappe, which would still be a relative bargain.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Should we not be bringing back Szczęsny into the fold? Really worried about the ageing Cech and disgruntled Ospina

He's on his way to juventus if reports are to be believed.

[Marc Overmars]

Lukaku on his way back to Chelsea apparently.

[Özim]

If Lukaku is going for 100mill then we should put in a bid of 3.6trillion for Mbappe, which would still be a relative bargain. That comes next week when the Real move is as good as signed and the player says he's only going to Real.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

When is the deadline for season ticket renewal?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Dunno, maybe Zim knows.

[Penguin]

I really doubt if we will make any serious effort to buy Mbappe. Even if he was in the £50-60m I couldn't see Wenger making a bid. Wenger doesn't like gambles.

Even if by some miracle we did have a bid accepted it looks like Mbappe could have his pick of clubs. Why would he choose us over anyone else?

[Letters]

Why would he choose us over anyone else?
Money.

[Özim]

When this comes to nothing after a whole summer of BS as most fully expect and he stays at Monaco or moves to a top club like Real, the club can dust itself down happy with their work.

#AlmostSignedMbappe

[Penguin]

Money.

Can we offer more money than United and Real?

[Letters]

Can we offer more money than United and Real?

Well...we probably could I doubt we would. But he might also like the idea of being a bigger fish in a smaller pond.

[KSE Comedy Club]

lol

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10906905/arsenal-striker-olivier-giroud-mulling-future-over-lack-of-playing-opportunities


Olivier Giroud has issued a warning to Arsenal saying he will not tolerate another season on the bench.

The 30-year-old French striker recently signed a new contract until 2020 but his frustrations have grown after starting only 11 Premier League games in the last campaign with Alexis Sanchez preferred up front.

With Arsene Wenger committing to another two years, the Gunners are reportedly chasing Monaco's teenager striker Kylian Mbappe, and the French boss has also confirmed Leicester winger Riyad Mahrez is a target.


Speaking on Monday ahead of France's World Cup Qualifier against Sweden, Giroud said: "I will put up with the transfer market. I will discuss with the coach but he is relying on me.

"It is true that I have had limited playing time but it was for a certain amount of time, it is true there were things against me. I will not settle for another year with such little playing time.

"I will have to think carefully to consider it with my relatives and my advisers. It will be a decision that will be maturely thought about to have more playing time."

Giroud has continued to impress on the international stage, bagging a hat-trick in last Friday's friendly 5-0 win against Paraguay to score his 16th goal for his country in as many games.


Play better and you wont be on the fucking bench.

[Marc Overmars]

Bye.

[GP]

Hope he stays

[Özim]

lol

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10906905/arsenal-striker-olivier-giroud-mulling-future-over-lack-of-playing-opportunities



Play better and you wont be on the fucking bench.

Hope he leaves, he's dogsh*te. An average joe who thinks he has a right to play most games despite his poor performances, what next!

[Xhaka Can’t]

He was more effective when used as a sub. If he isn't content with that role he should be moved on.

I hope he stays because he is the type of quality we need to ensure we have depth.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Whatever you do this summer, you can always rely on Liverpool to fuck it up further.

[Penguin]

Giroud isn't good enough to be a starting striker for a title challenging team. He probably isn't even good enough to be a starting striker in a top four team anymore. He's an okay option to have on the bench as a plan B but I couldn't care less if he leaves.

[Özim]

We've allegedly accepted a bid of 3 million for Ospin from Fenerbahce.

3 million :haha:let it not ever be said our negotiating team can't negotiate properly!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

He was more effective when used as a sub. If he isn't content with that role he should be moved on.

I hope he stays because he is the type of quality we need to ensure we have depth.

Yeah I agree, I'd keep him as an impact sub but if he isn't happy with that, well off you fuck.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We've allegedly accepted a bid of 3 million for Ospin from Fenerbahce.

3 million :haha:let it not ever be said our negotiating team can't negotiate properly!

Ospina is terrible, frankly lucky to recoup the 3 million we spent on him

[Marc Overmars]

Keep Perez, sell Giroud.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Wenger doesn't like gambles.

You say that, but you've obviously never been in the same poker school as him

Degenerate gambling fuck. Never knows to quit whilst he's ahead and always ends up making a loss

Insists on wearing those weird semi transparent coloured plastic hats and eating absurd amount of cashew nuts

Tries to put people off by Going into graphic detail about alleged conquests. I stopped playing with him a few years ago because he frankly disgusts me. Talking about negotiating the Sanchez deal from a cell phone whilst simultaneously dry humping some bronzed whore against a low wall on copacabana beach.

I don't need to hear that shit, especially not when he follows it up with that awful smirk of his.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I once played blackjack at the same table as Mark Williams when he was the world snooker champion.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I once played blackjack at the same table as Mark Williams when he was the world snooker champion.

That's a truthful anecdote, there's no place for that here

The nearest thing to that I have. Is that Ray Parlours local (or preferred drinking establishment) is about a mile from my dads place....I used to go in there quite frequently with my mate on a Sunday afternoon and Ray was in there. I usually said hello to him (he doesn't know me, he just knows I support Arsenal as I came in one time with an Arsenal top on), once apologised for accidentally knocking a tablet he had propped up on the bar where he was watching football on....if he's there with his daughters I tended to stay away from him completely.

To be fair it was actually two seperate places, for a while he used to drink in Hollands bar in Shenfield and after it was done up he now drinks in place called the Rose on Chelmsford road.

[GP]

So there I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody great big Bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace, but the shopowner and his son... that's a different story altogether. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Nasty business, really. But, sure enough, I got the M&Ms, and Ozzy went on stage and did a great show.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

So there I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody great big Bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace, but the shopowner and his son... that's a different story altogether. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes. Nasty business, really. But, sure enough, I got the M&Ms, and Ozzy went on stage and did a great show.

Ok you've watched Wayne's World 2 again

I prefer that guy as Danny in Withnail and I personally

[Xhaka Can’t]

I went to watch the annual pre season friendly with Barnet and stayed behind as Wenger was on his mobile in the centre circle. We waited so my mates nephew could get his autograph. He came over and signed it.

We were amongst the last to leave and by then the main gates were open so we walked out that way. When we did, the crowd outside the gate cheered. Naturally I reacted to the cheering by waving back appreciatively to the crowd.

I turned around to see Ray Parlour walking right behind us.

[GP]

https://streamable.com/0ojy1

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I had Boris Johnson walk past me about ten years ago - so before he became London Mayor

This was a chilly February evening on Tottenham Court Road, don't know where he was coming from (I assumed the spectator but that's south London based) wearing a silly red bobble hat and glares at me like "what are you looking at?"

Got on a bike which was chained up nearby. Prick

About ten years before that saw Martin Clunes (when he was still famous for men behaving badly) in Tandy - also Tottenham Court Road buying batteries

Spoke to Glenn Roeder when he was still West Ham manager setting up a savings account for his daughter at branch of Lloyds (recovering from his brain tumour so I asked him how he was, terrible manager but nice bloke)

[Xhaka Can’t]

I saw Woy at Gatwick outside WH Smith by the train station.

I thought he was really short.

[Özim]

Keep Perez, sell Giroud.

Yeah that's what we should do.

[AFC Leveller]

I once got on the same bus as that tall Somalian guy (was once the tallest in the world) .

[Globalgunner]

I once sat next to Luis Boa Morte on the tube. He was playing for the Hammers then and wore training long johns. Didnt even know it was him till he stood up to wait for the doors to open.
#Arsenallegend

[KSE Comedy Club]

https://streamable.com/0ojy1Somebody actually wasted their time putting that shit together?

Then I wasted a minute of my life watching it!! :thumbsdown:

[KSE Comedy Club]

I served Glen Hoddle when I worked at Thresher wine shops in Woodley, Reading.

I tried to save him £2 on the 2 litre bottles of coke he was buying and he said 'no thanks' then just looked at me as if to say "don't you know how much money I have!"

:lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

I once was in a queue behind someone famous from EastEnders at a motorway service station.

When I got to the cashier she was star struck and asked me about how amazing this all was.

I haven't a fuckin clue who it was.

[Marc Overmars]

My uncle used to live next door to Vinnie Jones in Hemel Hempstead. He was every bit as insane off the pitch as he was on it.






Why are we name dropping?

[GP]

I met Paul Daniels once.

[Letters]

Did you like him?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Did you like him?

:popcorn:

[Letters]

:lol: Yes. Come on GP, you know what to do...

[KSE Comedy Club]

Costa & agent in talks with AC Milan.


Sorry, I've derailed the thread now haven't I.......:(

[GP]

Costa & agent in talks with AC Milan.


Sorry, I've derailed the thread now haven't I.......:(

Not a lot.

[Letters]

:(

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Did you like him?

Sigh....fine I'll be your performing seal

Not a lot

[Letters]

<_<

Thanks for trying.


I met Ian Wright once, you know. We're kinda BFFs now.

[fakeyank]

Gnabry just got out of his contract with Werder Bremen.. wtf is going on?!

[GP]

Werder Bremen fans don't seem to care.

He's probably off to Hoffenheim or some shit.

He's not very good.

[Özim]

Gnabry just got out of his contract with Werder Bremen.. wtf is going on?!

Yeah odd one, the coach and managing director rated him very highly, understandably as he did very well for them:


Coach Alexander Houri added: "It's obviously a pity as Serge was a go-to guy for us, someone who has undergone a remarkable development and has helped the team enormously with his performances.


"After a very good first year for him at Werder, Serge has informed us that he would like to take the next step in his career," managing director Frank Baumann told Werder's website.

"He will therefore activate a clause in his contract and leave the club at the end of the month."


http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11888/10908413/serge-gnabry-to-leave-werder-bremen-after-one-season

Absolute bargain for anyone that gets him, very talented indeed we should have never sold him and played him more.

[Penguin]

Kind of a low blow to leave Werder that way. Sounds like it was all planned from the moment he signed for them.

Not that they can complain considering how much they bought him for.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

So who have we NOT signed today ?

Or to use the Wenger parlance Almost signed

[Coney]

<_<

Thanks for trying.


I met Ian Wright once, you know. We're kinda BFFs now.

Bum f*ck friends?

[Letters]

I told you that in confidence :angry:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Mbappe has apparently been quoted as saying: "I always watch the premier league, especially Arsenal. They are a team that I like"

So..... it must be on, surely?


(If not for us, then some other club that actually spends money)

[Niall_Quinn]

Mbappe has apparently been quoted as saying: "I always watch the premier league, especially Arsenal. They are a team that I like"

So..... it must be on, surely?


(If not for us, then some other club that actually spends money)

He was taken out of context and mistranslated. His actual quote:

"I enjoy reading, going to the cinema and especially comedy. I always watch the premier league, hilarious, especially Arsenal. They are a team that makes me laugh."

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

....but we do spend money now. Need to drop that cliche.....

[GP]

....but we do spend money now. Need to drop that cliche.....

Mate, people still use the 'I did not see it' joke because he said it once in 1996.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

lol.... was it really only once? At least the notion was generally true.....not that saying what is in his players interests is particularly unique, but we certainly aren't the misers we once was, particularly after last summer!

[KSE Comedy Club]

He has said he did not see it more than once! :lol:

[KSE Comedy Club]

lol.... was it really only once? At least the notion was generally true.....not that saying what is in his players interests is particularly unique, but we certainly aren't the misers we once was, particularly after last summer!
Obviously there is a hint of sarcasm in what I said, some 'humour' if you will.

But we certainly aren't the type of club to spend £100m+ on a player either :coffee:

[Marc Overmars]

Morata close to signing for United apparently. £64m.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mbappe to Madrid then.

[Penguin]

But we certainly aren't the type of club to spend £100m+ on a player either :coffee:

Agreed, especially considering the comments Wenger has made about United's Pogba signing. It's more likely that we'll get two or three £30-35m signings than to use our whole budget on one player.

[Globalgunner]

Sanchez to City
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3767351/alexis-sanchez-manchester-city-arsenal-chile-transfer-news/

Who`s next?

[GP]

lol no, he's not going to City.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Obviously there is a hint of sarcasm in what I said, some 'humour' if you will.

But we certainly aren't the type of club to spend £100m+ on a player either :coffee:

No one club has actually done that yet. If the complaint is that we havent set a world record fee on a transfer....why should we? There are 4-6 clubs with higher turnovers in world football. If it serves our purposes to do so based on the profile of the correct player, then I would suggets we should like anybody else. But it shouldn't be pathological that we spend record fees.

There is definitely an element of short sightedness in spending medium amounts on less than top quality in similar positions rather than just backing one individual we are convinced is the real deal......but if the Mbappe offer is true that too points towards us changing our ways in regards to transfers.

[Xhaka Can’t]

lol no, he's not going to City.

But it was in The Sun!

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Apparently we are signing some Russian midfiddler, Golovkin or something like that, according to Russian media.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Midfiddler? Helps to keep everything up.

[Niall_Quinn]

Disgusting, despicable dirty dego Barca cunts putting out stories trying to drive a wedge between Bellerin and Arsenal. Such filth.

[Marc Overmars]

United sign Victor Lindelof for £30m.

[GP]

Oh

[Niall_Quinn]

United sign Victor Lindelof for £30m.

Strange. Surely they could have spent 50 mill? Seems such a small amount for them, almost not worth the effort. And they didn't even let him go on a free a few years back. Very odd deal for them.

[selassie]

Apparently we are signing some Russian midfiddler, Golovkin or something like that, according to Russian media.

I hope this is just a rumour. We need a new midfielder but someone who is starting quality, we need real quality in that area because as it stands central midfield is full of potential, average players and junk. We don't need anymore projects for this position.

[Marc Overmars]

Gnabry has signed for Bayern. :lol:

[Globalgunner]

Arseholes. They dont even have the decency to pay his club a reasonable transfer fee.

[Niall_Quinn]

Footballers, their agents and the shitty sports media who pretend this is all about sport are some of the worst people alive. I get it if you were earning 100 quid a week and somebody offered you 200 quid to jump ship. Now you can feed your kid so fuck the principles. But you earn 6 figures a week and you still throw every principle in the garbage so you can grab more? You have to be a total cunt to behave like that. Where's the love of the game gone? Isn't that what thee wankers claim they are in it for? To win accolades and adoration based on their sporting endeavours? Bullshit! They want trophies so Nike will show them some love.

[Niall_Quinn]

Meanwhile, Wenger flying the flag for prudence. But taking it way too far as always. We're close to signing some nobody who we don't need called Aleksandr Golovin. 21 year old midfielder. Has potential :doh:

Beat off mighty Lazio apparently.

So now we have a potentially good striker, a potentially good midfielder and a full back who sounds like he's about as good as we already have.

Now that Wenger has git his foot back in the door, he's doing what he's always done. Nowhere nearly enough. Less than the bare minimum.

And still this fantasy nonsense about Mbappe gets spun out. Surely they can't string that all the way to the window closing? It would do us a huge favour if Madrid could get that deal done sharpish so Wenger loses his cover.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Meanwhile, Wenger flying the flag for prudence. But taking it way too far as always. We're close to signing some nobody who we don't need called Aleksandr Golovin. 21 year old midfielder. Has potential :doh:

Beat off mighty Lazio apparently.

So now we have a potentially good striker, a potentially good midfielder and a full back who sounds like he's about as good as we already have.

Now that Wenger has git his foot back in the door, he's doing what he's always done. Nowhere nearly enough. Less than the bare minimum.

And still this fantasy nonsense about Mbappe gets spun out. Surely they can't string that all the way to the window closing? It would do us a huge favour if Madrid could get that deal done sharpish so Wenger loses his cover.

They don't need to string it out till the end of the transfer window just until the season tickets are renewed.

[Özim]

Gnabry has signed for Bayern. :lol:

Some people thought he was rubbish and would end up at Hoffenheim :lol: Bayern clearly don't think so!

Bit of a shocker for us though, let him go for peanuts and now he'll probably end up being a star at Bayern and worth a fortune, egg on face time.

[Letters]

All part of the plan :cool:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/former-arsenal-star-serge-gnabrys-10608828

Wenger :bow:

[Özim]

Meanwhile, Wenger flying the flag for prudence. But taking it way too far as always. We're close to signing some nobody who we don't need called Aleksandr Golovin. 21 year old midfielder. Has potential :doh:

Beat off mighty Lazio apparently.

So now we have a potentially good striker, a potentially good midfielder and a full back who sounds like he's about as good as we already have.

Now that Wenger has git his foot back in the door, he's doing what he's always done. Nowhere nearly enough. Less than the bare minimum.

And still this fantasy nonsense about Mbappe gets spun out. Surely they can't string that all the way to the window closing? It would do us a huge favour if Madrid could get that deal done sharpish so Wenger loses his cover.

Joke of a signing as usual.

[fakeyank]

2 more years of this shit... at least..

[Letters]

2 more years of this shit... at least..
By "this shit" do you mean your posts? ;)

[Niall_Quinn]

By "this shit" do you mean your posts? ;)

I think he means Wenger's constantly failing management methods, his consistent refusal to do what needs to be done to move the team up a level, his unfaltering ability to serve the interests of the few at the expense of the fans, his devotion to being unambitious and his unerring inability to achieve what he's paid to achieve.

But that's just a guess.

He could have equally been referring to two more years of your snide messages and smileys that wind people up and cause a bad atmosphere on the forum.

[Niall_Quinn]

If this Wenger bloke spends this window signing new pet projects and fails to land at least two world class and experienced players that we need, in positions we need to be filled, then it shows either his utter contempt for everyone at Arsenal, including the owner and the board, or the extent to which he's out of his depth as a manager at a top football club. Either way, he should be sacked if he can't even prepare the team pre-season for a proper title challenge. Who could argue against that?

Let's hope his current dicking around signing players we don't need is merely the sideshow rather than the main event. But Wenger is so damn arrogant it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's already forgotten about last season and the hostility he caused and has already resolved to blunder on with more of the same old bullshit. Better not be the case. Wouldn't like to be in his clown shoes if he thinks he can get away with his shit too many times.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal's Russian scout:


"This player is not talented enough for European level and it's unrealistic to discuss his transfer to a top EPL club," he told Russian outlet Sports.

"Alexander would need to improve his football in general, as well as his physical, psychological and mental attributes."

I hope this is true. What I mean is I hope it's true we won't sign him, rather than I hope it's true about the player but Wenger will sign him anyway.

[Penguin]

What's the point of adding more squad fillers? Wenger said it himself - we need top quality signings that will actually improve the team. And we need them in the right positions and not a £35m CM for the sake of it.

[selassie]

What's the point of adding more squad fillers? Wenger said it himself - we need top quality signings that will actually improve the team. And we need them in the right positions and not a £35m CM for the sake of it.

Wenger is an expert at adding squad fillers, that's pretty much all he's done for the past couple of seasons and he's spent a fortune doing it.

This summer has the potential to be horrific what with the Sanchez to City rumours growing day by day.

If we sell Sanchez to City I'm done with this club.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I think he means Wenger's constantly failing management methods, his consistent refusal to do what needs to be done to move the team up a level, his unfaltering ability to serve the interests of the few at the expense of the fans, his devotion to being unambitious and his unerring inability to achieve what he's paid to achieve.

But that's just a guess.

He could have equally been referring to two more years of your snide messages and smileys that wind people up and cause a bad atmosphere on the forum.

'boom'

[Özim]

What's the point of adding more squad fillers? Wenger said it himself - we need top quality signings that will actually improve the team. And we need them in the right positions and not a £35m CM for the sake of it.

Wenger says a lot of things and most of the time it's BS, lost count of the amount of times he's said he only wants top top quality only to go out and sign some unknown who is distinctly average.

[AFC Leveller]

France have some excellent young players, so much talent. Mbappe, Dembele, Varane, Lemar, Griezmann etc are all under 25. Really baffling how they didn't win the euros.

I'd love is to sign Dembele, pure talent and insanely quick. The way he ran away from Walker today was scary.

[Letters]

'boom'

:lol:

'senseofhumourfail', more like. :d

[Thierrymon]

France have some excellent young players, so much talent. Mbappe, Dembele, Varane, Lemar, Griezmann etc are all under 25. Really baffling how they didn't win the euros.

I'd love is to sign Dembele, pure talent and insanely quick. The way he ran away from Walker today was scary.

Which Dembele? There are so many.

[Özim]

All we're getting now is links to pipedream signings, apparently Mbappe, Lacazette and Lemar all coming.....so sick of these BS, they might have been believable in the first 10 years but now they're wearing thin.

We're not going to sign any of those players, Lacazette we get linked to every summer, it's boring! We will never pay £100+ million in a month of Sundays, we're cheap it's ridiculous to even claim we would.

We'll end up with the usual bargain basement rubbish we always do, we've already started by signing up a freebie, it's what we do best. People can say wait until the end of the transfer window etc etc, but by now we know how it works with this club, one disappointment after another.

After all the speculation about change the whole backroom staff are being offered new deals it seems, nothing is going to change and we'll fail again just as we have for over a decade now.

I just think there's just someone putting BS rumours out to try and keep the fans happy, none of these ever come to fruition, Wenger singed a new contract (it was obvious he was going to from the start), the rest of the team stay on with no change and noone to keep Wenger in check and the transfers will be the usually nonsense speculation ending up in middle of the road disappointing signings noone knows or cares about.

This club should be renamed Arsene Wenger.

[AFC Leveller]

Which Dembele? There are so many.

Dortmund one!

[selassie]

France have some excellent young players, so much talent. Mbappe, Dembele, Varane, Lemar, Griezmann etc are all under 25. Really baffling how they didn't win the euros.

I'd love is to sign Dembele, pure talent and insanely quick. The way he ran away from Walker today was scary.

Yeah I agree, they are producing top tier talent like Spain/Germany were around 5-10 years ago.

What I find baffling is how we don't ever seem to pick up any decent young talent out of France, what an earth is Giles Grimandi doing out there?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Yeah I agree, they are producing top tier talent like Spain/Germany were around 5-10 years ago.

What I find baffling is how we don't ever seem to pick up any decent young talent out of France, what an earth is Giles Grimandi doing out there?

Hookers and blow.

[Globalgunner]

Papers linking us to Juan Cuadrado 30 years old (almost) for 30m. Best not delay. Next year he`ll be 31m. Are we really that desperate.? For 30m I`d rather keep Walcott.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mostly desperate agents doing the linking, I think. You know us, we are hardly likely to be linked to anyone at all in reality.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Papers linking us to Juan Cuadrado 30 years old (almost) for 30m. Best not delay. Next year he`ll be 31m. Are we really that desperate.? For 30m I`d rather keep Walcott.

The media are just bored.

Juve only acquired him permanently a month ago. :lol:

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I once sat next to Luis Boa Morte on the tube. He was playing for the Hammers then and wore training long johns. Didnt even know it was him till he stood up to wait for the doors to open.
#Arsenallegend

I came home once and found Luis Boa Morte in my living room. True story that. Chatted for a while with my family and then he drove back to Fulham's training ground. Nice chap. Gets around.

I'm back, what have I missed?

[Xhaka Can’t]

I've never found Luis Boa Morte

[Bergkampwonderland10]

We're signing Tape Cassette say BEIN sports.

:unsure:

I for one would be very happy with that. Athletico Madrid certainly know how to scout a good striker - so let's buy him.
Intelligent player. Makes excellent runs through the middle, equally comfortable left or right foot, great technique and knows how to find the net. I'd be happy to pay 50million. Just get the deal done.

[Niall_Quinn]

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is growing increasingly frustrated at Arsenal's lack of activity over his new contract - opening up the prospect of him leaving this summer.
The England international is eager to resolve his future and was expecting Arsenal to begin talks quickly — however the Gunners are yet to formally offer him a new deal.

If true, just one more of the many, many reasons why Wenger should be sacked.

[Marc Overmars]

If true, just one more of the many, many reasons why Wenger should be sacked.

Until the season just gone, his performances were never anything to write home about and I wouldn't have had any problems with selling him last year, frankly he looked shit.

However he's one of the few to come out of this season with any credit, he somehow managed to up his game at a time where the majority of the team lost their bollocks. Fair play, hope he signs an extension kicks on from here. Would I blame him if he left though? Probably not. He's been here for 5 years and is only marginally better than the day he signed. The manager has never known what to do with him and I think he would benefit from playing under a better coach.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I think Chamberlain owes it to Arsenal to stay. 1-2 good seasons and only in parts. It would be pretty poor form if he went to Liverpool at this stage. I think it's a case of a substantial pay rise he's after rather than Arsenal delaying. You know he's been tapped up and offered silly money from somewhere else.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Perhaps Wenger should re-sign Henry in a coaching capacity - that might swing a deal for Mbappe - they seem quite similar in many ways.
What is Thomas Lemar valued at?

[Niall_Quinn]

I think Chamberlain owes it to Arsenal to stay. 1-2 good seasons and only in parts. It would be pretty poor form if he went to Liverpool at this stage. I think it's a case of a substantial pay rise he's after rather than Arsenal delaying. You know he's been tapped up and offered silly money from somewhere else.

I think it's mostly because Wenger is a stupid cunt.

[Niall_Quinn]

Perhaps Wenger should re-sign Henry in a coaching capacity - that might swing a deal for Mbappe - they seem quite similar in many ways.
What is Thomas Lemar valued at?

More likely to sign up one of those nodding heads you stick on car dashboards. Henry might not be able to nod fast enough.

[Power n Glory]

I think it's mostly because Wenger is a stupid cunt.

Wenger has lost his touch when it comes to developing young players. He really has. If you look at his record over the past 10 years and it's pretty poor. I wouldn't blame Ox for for moving on.

[GP]

Perhaps Wenger should re-sign Henry in a coaching capacity

Well, he tried. He turned it down to work at Sky.

[Thierrymon]

I think Chamberlain owes it to Arsenal to stay. 1-2 good seasons and only in parts. It would be pretty poor form if he went to Liverpool at this stage. I think it's a case of a substantial pay rise he's after rather than Arsenal delaying. You know he's been tapped up and offered silly money from somewhere else.

Same thing could have been said about a number of past players. Nasri, Adebayor, Van Persie all went through a golden patch after some poor seasons (injuries/bad form) and they all fucked off with little care for the club. Loyalty is a dying commodity in the football business.

[Marc Overmars]

The ever reliable Sky Sources are claiming West Ham are trying to sign Giroud. :lol:

[GP]

The ever reliable Sky Sources are claiming West Ham are trying to sign Giroud. :lol:

Saw that a few days ago. He won't go to West Ham.

[Penguin]

I think Chamberlain owes it to Arsenal to stay. 1-2 good seasons and only in parts. It would be pretty poor form if he went to Liverpool at this stage. I think it's a case of a substantial pay rise he's after rather than Arsenal delaying. You know he's been tapped up and offered silly money from somewhere else.

If we wanted him to stay the club should have offered him a contract extension months ago. They still haven't done anything so either they expect him to sign anything they put on the table or they don't care if he leaves.

[Power n Glory]

Same thing could have been said about a number of past players. Nasri, Adebayor, Van Persie all went through a golden patch after some poor seasons (injuries/bad form) and they all fucked off with little care for the club. Loyalty is a dying commodity in the football business.

But we've yet to offer him a new contract. What's Ox supposed to do in this situation? If we wanted him we'd have offered him a deal by now. The balls in our court. Not sure why you guys are aiming shots at Ox for disloyalty. Just another case of the club not handling business badly. It's not as if he's pulling a Sanchez and Ozil by stalling on signing.

Reminds me of how the Cole situation started. We were focused on resigning Henry and kinda took Cole for granted by assuming he'd sign a new deal and offering less than he expected late on. That soured the relationship with the club. Walcott went through a similar situation and publicly warned the club to not assume he'll sign just any contract handed out. Even Bergkamp went through a summer where the club left him in limbo all summer and never knew if he had played his last game for Arsenal. That situation could have ended badly with Bergkamp signing somewhere else. The fact that this still happens suggests lessons haven't been learned. We can't be so quick to accuse a player of being disloyal given our history.

[Power n Glory]

If we wanted him to stay the club should have offered him a contract extension months ago. They still haven't done anything so either they expect him to sign anything they put on the table or they don't care if he leaves.

Exactly. It's done to Wenger and the club.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

Exactly. It's done to Wenger and the club.
Wenger went public saying that he wanted Ox to stay back in March /April. Definitely other factors in this. The club won't announce they've already offered a contract only that it's been turned down. I see it more that Ox and his peeps haven't been offered the contract they want!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Wenger went public saying that he wanted Ox to stay back in March /April. Definitely other factors in this. The club won't announce they've already offered a contract only that it's been turned down. I see it more that Ox and his peeps haven't been offered the contract they want!

No the club won't announce a contract being offered but that doesn't mean one has been offered, Wenger is a champion prevaricator the restaurant closes whilst he is still agonising over what to order for an aperitif.

[Power n Glory]

Wenger went public saying that he wanted Ox to stay back in March /April. Definitely other factors in this. The club won't announce they've already offered a contract only that it's been turned down. I see it more that Ox and his peeps haven't been offered the contract they want!

From what I've read, both parties have agreed the salary but no formal contract talks have taken place. Either way, you can't accuse the player of disloyalty if the club don't want to resign him.

It's not as if the club hasn't got a history of this. Think back to the Bergkamp situation i mentioned earlier. Wenger says a lot of shit he doesn't follow through with. What do you expect him to say when speaking Ox? No we want to sell?

[selassie]

I think Chamberlain owes it to Arsenal to stay. 1-2 good seasons and only in parts. It would be pretty poor form if he went to Liverpool at this stage. I think it's a case of a substantial pay rise he's after rather than Arsenal delaying. You know he's been tapped up and offered silly money from somewhere else.

He doesn't really owe Arsenal anything. If he wishes to leave and has been offered a better contract elsewhere than so be it.

I mean why are we dragging our feet out over offering our first team players these deals anyway? Why does it always have to come to this?

Why were we so quick to offer the likes of Coquelin and Giroud new deals yet not Ox?

The running of this football club is a complete and utter sham, it's embarrassing.

[Niall_Quinn]

They'll do the bare minimum again, the very least they think they can get away with. Wenger's back in his element, as if last season didn't even happen.

[Özim]

He doesn't really owe Arsenal anything. If he wishes to leave and has been offered a better contract elsewhere than so be it.

I mean why are we dragging our feet out over offering our first team players these deals anyway? Why does it always have to come to this?

Why were we so quick to offer the likes of Coquelin and Giroud new deals yet not Ox?

The running of this football club is a complete and utter sham, it's embarrassing.

Spot on, we're quick to reward the rubbish ones with new contracts but when it comes to the better players we seem to let them run down their deals till they have a year left and drag our heels ridiculously.

Just an embarrassment to be honest, nothing at this club is done properly.

Alexis, Ozil and Ox' futures all up in the air and probably a summer of BS rumours about players we have no chance of signing like Mbappe, sick of this rubbish.

We should sort out a deals quickly for a change, oh I forgot we do when it's some nobody freebie we don't have to pay for or when it's average players in our squad nobody wants, but as soon as it's half decent players or important member sof our squad we take forever.

How this club has fallen from grace, the stadium move has proven a poison chalice for the fans.

[selassie]

They'll do the bare minimum again, the very least they think they can get away with. Wenger's back in his element, as if last season didn't even happen.

Aye, this is what I just find incredible. We are up to our old tricks again after that abomination of a season. Wenger won't change and he certainly doesn't seem to think he needs to.

[selassie]

Spot on, we're quick to reward the rubbish ones with new contracts but when it comes to the better players we seem to let them run down their deals till they have a year left and drag our heels ridiculously.

Just an embarrassment to be honest, nothing at this club is done properly.

Alexis, Ozil and Ox' futures all up in the air and probably a summer of BS rumours about players we have no chance of signing like Mbappe, sick of this rubbish.

We should sort out a deals quickly for a change, oh I forgot we do when it's some nobody freebie we don't have to pay for or when it's average players in our squad nobody wants, but as soon as it's half decent players or important member sof our squad we take forever.

How this club has fallen from grace, the stadium move has proven a poison chalice for the fans.

Yep. To be honest we are so use to this rubbish now it will probably come of no surprise to anybody when we fail to land any of our primary targets and most likely lose our star player.

I use to think we were unlucky in the market years ago, I use to attribute our lousy luck to the stadium move and stuff like that. The last few seasons have proven beyond doubt we are in this situation due to our own incompetence and I don't see anything changing this summer.

[Özim]

Yep. To be honest we are so use to this rubbish now it will probably come of no surprise to anybody when we fail to land any of our primary targets and most likely lose our star player.

I use to think we were unlucky in the market years ago, I use to attribute our lousy luck to the stadium move and stuff like that. The last few seasons have proven beyond doubt we are in this situation due to our own incompetence and I don't see anything changing this summer.

I just think every decision we seem to make is pretty lousy, giving Wenger a new contract, not getting important players signed up, not signing players we need early, just everything really, what's worse is nothing ever changes, fully expecting another frustrating summer where we get linked with pipedream players would have no chance of signing, maybe the odd nobody signed and then another farce 2-3 weeks into the new season on transfer deadline day where we just panic buy.

So much wrong as this club and yet none of the people in control care, it seems to be all about lining their own pockets and nothing else.

[AFC Leveller]

https://www.facebook.com/shares/view?id=1731963896821392&av=100002558935220

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.facebook.com/shares/view?id=1731963896821392&av=100002558935220

That cunt's trying to force Alexis out of the club.

[LDG]

Chelsea circling for Ox

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-chelsea-alex-oxlade-chamberlain-10649980

Or, it's a load of old shit just like most of the stuff you hear.

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis, Ox, Monreal, these are the players who stood up when everyone else pissed off and these are the players we should be doing everything to keep. Instead, the contracts of the first two still haven't been resolved and there are rumours of Monreal pissing off back to Spain. Apart from Cazorla and Bellerin (so we could get a bigger fee), have we managed to secure contracts for any of the key players? This feels like the start of the decline that was bound to set in once we dropped out of the top 4. It was imperative to move instantly to sign up our existing star players, but also to land a big new signing as a measure of the club's intent. But seeing as the only intent is to make money, we've haven't done any of those things.

Expect to see this shit drag on and on throughout the summer.

[rodders]

Typical Arsenal no signings yet and pissing off existing players that we should keep

[AFC Leveller]

On this day 22 years ago, we signed Bergy.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/19247656_1949553105282019_4454360592653022179_n.jp g?oh=e49e04258713fa88f99cadf585d4024b&oe=59DA4CAF

[selassie]

Typical Arsenal no signings yet and pissing off existing players that we should keep

Don't fret, it won't be long before we are blaming Chelsea and Man City for the inflated market and why we are incapable of signing top class players!

[Özim]

On this day 22 years ago, we signed Bergy.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/19247656_1949553105282019_4454360592653022179_n.jp g?oh=e49e04258713fa88f99cadf585d4024b&oe=59DA4CAF

Rioch :bow:

Also reading that article what a load of nonsense Pearce spoke, thought we should have signed Collymore over Bergkamp :lol:

[GP]

Typical Arsenal no signings yet and pissing off existing players that we should keep

Except we have made a signing.

Taxi for Rodders...

[Özim]

Typical Arsenal no signings yet and pissing off existing players that we should keep

We have made one signing, some freebie nobody unknown from the Bundesligue, another typical Wenger signing, cheap and unknown is what he cares about, level of quality doesn't seem to be a criteria.

Summer is going well, our best players futures up in the air with nothing near to being signed (will drag on most of the summer I'm sure) and some bs rumours about players we'll never sign. We're incapable or simply not willing to make the necessary signings in a timely manner. Incompetence doesn't even begin to describe our handling of transfers/contracts.

How we let Sanchez/Ozil/Ox run down their contracts like that whilst offering dross like Giroud/Coquelin new contracts is beyond me.

[Letters]

Summer is neither going well nor badly, ignore all the media balls and let's see what we actually do (or don't do).

[Özim]

I'd say it's going pretty badly so far, one freebie signed, 3 of our best players not signed up and possibly leaving and noone decent signed or close to be signed. The whole summer will pass up by like it usually does and nothing but scraps wil be left.

What we actually do can probably be predicted, we do similar things every summer and it's never the things we need or fans want, this summer won't be any different, the club have already offered new contracts to all the backroom staff despite all the changes mooted before, tells you all you need to know really, nothing is going change, expect a bunch of nobodies to come through the door as is often the case.

This should have been the scenario:

1) Make a statement and sign a couple big star players early
2) Get Sanchez/Ozil/Ox deals sorted out early or find replacements

Instead we're in no mans land again, with some nobody on board and nothign sorted. Not great is it?

[rodders]

Except we have made a signing.

Taxi for Rodders...

I know poetic licence!!!!

[fakeyank]

There is a sense of deja poo this summer. Same shit different summer.

[Globalgunner]

There is a sense of deja poo this summer. Same shit different summer.

FY miserable because his team lost to Pakistan in the cricket.

[Xhaka Can’t]

That Pearce article was hilarious.

As for signings, we need to sign our own players first.

[Niall_Quinn]

We have made one signing, some freebie nobody unknown from the Bundesligue, another typical Wenger signing, cheap and unknown is what he cares about, level of quality doesn't seem to be a criteria.

Summer is going well, our best players futures up in the air with nothing near to being signed (will drag on most of the summer I'm sure) and some bs rumours about players we'll never sign. We're incapable or simply not willing to make the necessary signings in a timely manner. Incompetence doesn't even begin to describe our handling of transfers/contracts.

How we let Sanchez/Ozil/Ox run down their contracts like that whilst offering dross like Giroud/Coquelin new contracts is beyond me.

Let's just say, we haven't been as decisive as it would have benefitted us to be. After all, it has only been a decade of the same old thing. Hardly long enough to start making concrete predictions about inevitabilities.

[Niall_Quinn]

That Pearce article was hilarious.

As for signings, we need to sign our own players first.

There must be some way, we haven't already used, to trick them into signing.

[Letters]

There is a sense of deja poo this summer. Same shit different summer.

deja poo :lol:

Very good. I'm having that :d

[selassie]

Summer is neither going well nor badly, ignore all the media balls and let's see what we actually do (or don't do).

It's business as usual. We don't seem to be doing a lot even though we need to. Aside from not resigning 2 of our best players so far (Sanchez & Ozil), and one of our emerging stars (Ox), we also need to add quality to the squad...so far nothing has happened and at Arsenal that usually means what it is...nothing happening!

[Xhaka Can’t]

You can't expect too much to happen during the waiting period.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's business as usual. We don't seem to be doing a lot even though we need to. Aside from not resigning 2 of our best players so far (Sanchez & Ozil), and one of our emerging stars (Ox), we also need to add quality to the squad...so far nothing has happened and at Arsenal that usually means what it is...nothing happening!

We're signing Mbappe, Cassette and Boomerang - we'll have the most lethal strike force in the world. Exciting times.

[fakeyank]

FY miserable because his team lost to Pakistan in the cricket.

Bruh, I am from Bangladesh. At least we didnt lose to Pakistan!

Indians :pal:

[Maestro]

don't know about the rest of you, but i really don't rate this cassette tape boy and the hype around him .....

[Letters]

It's business as usual. We don't seem to be doing a lot even though we need to. Aside from not resigning 2 of our best players so far (Sanchez & Ozil), and one of our emerging stars (Ox), we also need to add quality to the squad...so far nothing has happened and at Arsenal that usually means what it is...nothing happening!

Probably right :(

[Marc Overmars]

It's business as usual. We don't seem to be doing a lot even though we need to. Aside from not resigning 2 of our best players so far (Sanchez & Ozil), and one of our emerging stars (Ox), we also need to add quality to the squad...so far nothing has happened and at Arsenal that usually means what it is...nothing happening!

The reset button was pushed the moment Wenger signed his new deal.

[Niall_Quinn]

Shocking developments.


Arsenal fear they will lose out to Real Madrid in the race to sign wonderkid Kylian Mbappe this summer.

The Monaco striker is the club’s No 1 transfer target but there is a growing realisation that signing the 18-year-old will be a bridge too far given Real Madrid’s stature and the fact Arsenal have not qualified for the Champions League.

It's good to see we have enough expertise at the club to spot these potential barriers to us signing the hottest property in football. Now that I think of it, and following on from the club's tenacious sleuthing, it could be argued that long haul flights on Aeroflot and Thursday nights versus Dynamo Shitstick might not hold as much appeal as balmy CL nights in Madrid. We have to at least consider the possibility.

[KSE Comedy Club]

There must be some way, we haven't already used, to trick them into signing.

We could try Rohypnol, it seems to work for footballers in gang bang situations :shrug:

[KSE Comedy Club]

don't know about the rest of you, but i really don't rate this cassette tape boy and the hype around him .....

'Can I get a reeee-wind'

[rodders]

Arsenal and Arsene have history of pissing off existing players. Looks like they are doing the same to Oxlade- Chamberlain. Sorry but we are no longer with the elite and not likely to be so in foreseeable future.

[fakeyank]

In 2010, my friends told me that I will regret the Arsenal tattoo on my back. I laughed at them then.


I am crying now.

[Marc Overmars]

Even if we were doing well and you got an Arsenal tattoo you'd regret it.

Tacky as hell man. No offence.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Tattoos of any kind are tacky in my opinion

[GP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7Eki5EZ8o

[Globalgunner]

In 2010, my friends told me that I will regret the Arsenal tattoo on my back. I laughed at them then.


I am crying now.

Confess: Its not on your back.

[fakeyank]

Confess: Its not on your back.

Back. Lower back. Butt.

Same thing.

[Letters]

Back. Lower back. Butt.

Same thing.
#trampstamp.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The infamous Sky Sources say we're in talks for Tape Casette.

This hasn't even made yellow bar status on SSN though, despite reporting the news. :lol:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10925369/arsenal-in-alexandre-lacazette-transfer-talks-with-lyon

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I think it did earlier on.

Ridiculously though, we're linked with Mbappe along with you for hilarious numbers.

And we're still being linked with Oxlade-Chamberlain for some reason.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsene Wenger has placed Manchester United winger Anthony Martial on his wish list should the Gunners lose out to Real Madrid for No1 target Kylian Mbappe. Wenger is prepared to pay £40million for Martial, who fell out of favour at Old Trafford under Jose Mourinho last season and started fewer than half of United’s Premier League games.

We have selected our last-day-of-the-window, panic, appeasement target early this time.

[Globalgunner]

We have selected our last-day-of-the-window, panic, appeasement target early this time.

Prefer Martial to VHS cassette.
Mourinho will never sell. It will have to happen way over his head.
VHS Cassette is a 3rd rate striker moving to a 2nd rate club....we can do better methinks

[Power n Glory]

Martial? So Wenger can play him on the wing? You'd pick him over someone that has consistently scored over 20 goals each season? I don't trust Wenger to develop Martial.

What makes Lacazette 3rd rate striker? If it's because he plays in the French league, Martial came from the French league and Mbappe plays in the French league. My only problem with this move is now Lyon are asking for £57m. We could have had him for a lot less 3 seasons ago.

[GP]

We aren't in for Martial.

For a start, Mourinho wouldn't sell him to us. He's regressed badly under him anyway.

[Power n Glory]

That's not the point. We're unlikely to sign either player knowing our record. Just can't make sense of why Global would prefer an inconsistent 21 year old kid that came from the French league to go on to say a more consistent and experienced player with a much better goal record is 3rd rate and not what we need.

[Globalgunner]

He is only inconsistent because Mourinho always prefers a sure thing. This is why he played Ibra over him. Why he will spend whatever it takes to get another top line striker to make up for Ibra`s goals. lacassette is not a top line striker, cant even get in the French team ahead of Giroud. Martial has more talent and defo more potential. I prefer him but it doesnt matter. Wenger will not improve him one bit if Utd were to sell. None of the top teams are in for the VHS guy. Besides I dont think we should buy another French striker if Giroud is staying. Wenger will not be able to manage the situation to the teams benefit and start with his bizarre formations to squeeze players in.

[Power n Glory]

He is only inconsistent because Mourinho always prefers a sure thing. This is why he played Ibra over him. Why he will spend whatever it takes to get another top line striker to make up for Ibra`s goals. lacassette is not a top line striker, cant even get in the French team ahead of Giroud. Martial has more talent and defo more potential. I prefer him but it doesnt matter. Wenger will not improve him one bit if Utd were to sell. None of the top teams are in for the VHS guy. Besides I dont think we should buy another French striker if Giroud is staying. Wenger will not be able to manage the situation to the teams benefit and start with his bizarre formations to squeeze players in.

He's 21 with just two seasons in the Prem. He's only been playing regular football over the last 3 years. 12 goals in his last season with Monaco, 17 for his Utd debut and 8 goals under Mourinho. Can we really jump the gun and say he's better than Lacazette? On paper he's not and we'd be pinning our hopes on him developing under Wenger and scoring a way more than what we've seen so far. After seeing what has happened with players with 'potential' in the past, you'd be happy to see Wenger attempt to play that card again? If Lacazette isn't a top line striker, what exactly is Martial? If Wenger can't improve him one bit, that means the best we can hope for him is 17 goals. Where is the sense in that?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

He's 21 with just two seasons in the Prem. He's only been playing regular football over the last 3 years. 12 goals in his last season with Monaco, 17 for his Utd debut and 8 goals under Mourinho. Can we really jump the gun and say he's better than Lacazette? On paper he's not and we'd be pinning our hopes on him developing under Wenger and scoring a way more than what we've seen so far. After seeing what has happened with players with 'potential' in the past, you'd be happy to see Wenger attempt to play that card again? If Lacazette isn't a top line striker, what exactly is Martial? If Wenger can't improve him one bit, that means the best we can hope for him is 17 goals. Where is the sense in that?

My personal opinion is that Martial is a player of genuine quality and is far nearer in style to Thierry Henry than Kylian M'bappe.
But of course there are considerations, Lacazette is the complete thing unlike Martial and M'Bappe he is as good as he's ever going to be. And that's no bad thing, he would for me be very much like Lukaku in the premier league.

I think Martial has the potential to be absolutely world class, but of course it's the case of trusting Wenger to unlock his potential (it's hard to say whether his ability to do this is diminished or that since Fabregas many of the young players he has tried to develop just haven't been of that quality). It would definitely be more of a gamble than Lacazette, on one hand we know that Henry wasn't developing as a player under Carlo Ancelotti at Juve, on the other hand players never reach their own potential.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm beginning to think there is a small possibility we end up with none of them.

[selassie]

Martial? So Wenger can play him on the wing? You'd pick him over someone that has consistently scored over 20 goals each season? I don't trust Wenger to develop Martial.

What makes Lacazette 3rd rate striker? If it's because he plays in the French league, Martial came from the French league and Mbappe plays in the French league. My only problem with this move is now Lyon are asking for £57m. We could have had him for a lot less 3 seasons ago.

I don't want Martial either. There is a lot of raw talent there but Arsenal isn't the place for him to develop, at least not right now. He's a 50/50 for me in terms of how he progresses regardless of what club he ends up at.

Lacazette is a no-brainer, he is a proven goalscorer, the only question marks are that he hasn't yet made a mark on the International scene or in CL but that is more down to lack of opportunities. I suspect that his next move will improve his record in both those competitions assuming he joins a CL level type club, I think he's a good player and will fit in well at Arsenal.

His price is very top heavy but that is more to do with our dithering in the market over the past few seasons, 50million now is equivalent to 30million a couple of seasons ago IMO.

[selassie]

I'm beginning to think there is a small possibility we end up with none of them.

I think we'll end up with Lacazette, Aulas the Lyons chairman is just trying to extract every last penny out of his sale to us, Aulas is like the French version of Daniel Levy.

[Power n Glory]

My personal opinion is that Martial is a player of genuine quality and is far nearer in style to Thierry Henry than Kylian M'bappe.
But of course there are considerations, Lacazette is the complete thing unlike Martial and M'Bappe he is as good as he's ever going to be. And that's no bad thing, he would for me be very much like Lukaku in the premier league.

I think Martial has the potential to be absolutely world class, but of course it's the case of trusting Wenger to unlock his potential (it's hard to say whether his ability to do this is diminished or that since Fabregas many of the young players he has tried to develop just haven't been of that quality). It would definitely be more of a gamble than Lacazette, on one hand we know that Henry wasn't developing as a player under Carlo Ancelotti at Juve, on the other hand players never reach their own potential.

I’m holding off from fully judging Martial. When he delivers he’ll get the praise but I’m not writing him off or saying he’s the next Henry until I see more. We’ve seen players with loads of potential fail to live up to the hype. But saying that, there is no chance Man Utd are selling him to us. No way. Allowing the Club to divert our attention away from a striker (Lacazette) that’s ready to leave France and Lyon are willing sell for the right price, in order to pursue a player that we have zero chance of getting is what bothers me. Fall this and you’ll fall for anything. We’ll end up with nothing or another Perez.

Lukkau and Lacazette are the players we should be bidding for. They have the numbers and consistency and play for clubs that can’t offer them much more. There are no Henry type strikers available but we could be looking at a striker that plays a similar game to Anelka in Lacazette. Play a 3-5-2 and form a deadly strike duo with one of our existing strikers. Don’t just copy a paste a formation from other clubs like Chelsea. The top clubs can afford to play a solo striker with wingers either side because they have the right players for it. We don’t. Giroud, Welbeck,Perez Walcott could play a lot better if paired with someone else. Shifting these players or Ozil out to play wide makes no damn sense. It just blunts there potential to perform and how effective we play as a team. Buy a striker that can consistently score 20+ gaols a season and add one of the mentioned players to the mix and we solve the problem. We’re not going to find a player that has it all in the locker. There aren’t many players out there with strength, speed, agility and the goal record that we can afford.

[Niall_Quinn]

Reality is everything is on hold until Ozil and Alexis make their decision. Wenger's inability to manage the contracts of the squad we already have will cripple us in this transfer window, beyond the normal crippling that Wenger supplies by default. What we should be doing is sacking Wenger and bringing in an ambitious manager. But the right option is not an option at all at Arsenal, so we'll crawl through this transfer window listening to media speculation (probably generated by Pravda anyway) and we'll be back in panic buy, appeasement territory once the season has kicked off. Ozil and Alexis can take their time. They are in total control and we have almost nothing of significance to offer them. They can get the cash elsewhere, as well as CL football and a genuine chance of winning a major trophy. They'd have to be shit out of options to stay here, so figure them gone. The one thing we have to offer is free transfers next season. Perhaps they'll stay under those terms. But that means the money crew at Arsenal will have to be up for taking a big loss. Another non-option.

We wouldn't pay for Lacazette las time around. What makes people think we'll pay much more this time? The only way it'll happen is if Alexis gets shifted quickly and if that happens it means we'll be paying 60 odd million, less Alexis' fee, to make the squad worse.

These are Wenger's chickens coming home to roost. We're watching Arsenal in the final stages of becoming a genuine second tier club. It had to happen as a result of Wenger being allowed to continue with 10 years of bullshit. Give him a few more years and he'll take us even lower. I wonder how long the likes of Kroenke needs to see the same old shit happening over and over before he twigs?

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm beginning to think there is a small possibility we end up with none of them.

Agreed. There's a small certainty that will happen.

[Ralpheroo72]

Mbappe? Haha! More chance of us signing Mugabe.

[Power n Glory]

I don't want Martial either. There is a lot of raw talent there but Arsenal isn't the place for him to develop, at least not right now. He's a 50/50 for me in terms of how he progresses regardless of what club he ends up at.

Lacazette is a no-brainer, he is a proven goalscorer, the only question marks are that he hasn't yet made a mark on the International scene or in CL but that is more down to lack of opportunities. I suspect that his next move will improve his record in both those competitions assuming he joins a CL level type club, I think he's a good player and will fit in well at Arsenal.

His price is very top heavy but that is more to do with our dithering in the market over the past few seasons, 50million now is equivalent to 30million a couple of seasons ago IMO.

I’m not dead against Martial. I just don’t see it happening and wouldn’t be fully convinced that he solves our striker problem. After a few games I’m sure Wenger would shift him wide if he’s not tearing it up there. Wenger said he saw him more as a winger and Utd have also played him there for a lot of games. We just don’t need that sort of problem again. Buy a striker that has the numbers and games to back up that his best position is central striker and I can’t see Wenger trying to play them wide.

We’re really in a ridiculous situation. We should have bought Lacazette years ago or at least committed to playing Walcott or Sanchez up front for a whole season. It’s taken us an age to get this right and it’s becoming more costly. Wenger doesn’t have the answers to solve this.

[selassie]

Reality is everything is on hold until Ozil and Alexis make their decision. Wenger's inability to manage the contracts of the squad we already have will cripple us in this transfer window, beyond the normal crippling that Wenger supplies by default. What we should be doing is sacking Wenger and bringing in an ambitious manager. But the right option is not an option at all at Arsenal, so we'll crawl through this transfer window listening to media speculation (probably generated by Pravda anyway) and we'll be back in panic buy, appeasement territory once the season has kicked off. Ozil and Alexis can take their time. They are in total control and we have almost nothing of significance to offer them. They can get the cash elsewhere, as well as CL football and a genuine chance of winning a major trophy. They'd have to be shit out of options to stay here, so figure them gone. The one thing we have to offer is free transfers next season. Perhaps they'll stay under those terms. But that means the money crew at Arsenal will have to be up for taking a big loss. Another non-option.

We wouldn't pay for Lacazette las time around. What makes people think we'll pay much more this time? The only way it'll happen is if Alexis gets shifted quickly and if that happens it means we'll be paying 60 odd million, less Alexis' fee, to make the squad worse.

These are Wenger's chickens coming home to roost. We're watching Arsenal in the final stages of becoming a genuine second tier club. It had to happen as a result of Wenger being allowed to continue with 10 years of bullshit. Give him a few more years and he'll take us even lower. I wonder how long the likes of Kroenke needs to see the same old shit happening over and over before he twigs?

I agree with a lot of this post NQ and I don't for one minute think signing Lacazette is a sign of ambition, he's going to be a replacement for Sanchez and make no mistake he's a significant downgrade on Sanchez.

I agree we are in this mess because of Wenger, a lot of this was avoidable too. If we had shown more ambition and been more proactive over the past few seasons by genuinely improving the team/squad with the quality it has been lacking then I think we would have been in a much stronger position. Our lack of ambition makes us a less attractive option when purchasing players, what can we honestly offer a player above any of our rivals?

I think Wenger's hand will be forced with signing Lacazette, I don't think we have any other real options TBH, we aren't going to sign Mbappe and the likes of Lukaku, Belotti are beyond us.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mbappe? Haha! More chance of us signing Mugabe.

We already signed him, over 20 years ago.

[Niall_Quinn]

I agree with a lot of this post NQ and I don't for one minute think signing Lacazette is a sign of ambition, he's going to be a replacement for Sanchez and make no mistake he's a significant downgrade on Sanchez.

I agree we are in this mess because of Wenger, a lot of this was avoidable too. If we had shown more ambition and been more proactive over the past few seasons by genuinely improving the team/squad with the quality it has been lacking then I think we would have been in a much stronger position. Our lack of ambition makes us a less attractive option when purchasing players, what can we honestly offer a player above any of our rivals?

I think Wenger's hand will be forced with signing Lacazette, I don't think we have any other real options TBH, we aren't going to sign Mbappe and the likes of Lukaku, Belotti are beyond us.

Maybe they will throw cash at Lacazette just to shut the majority of fans up. But, considering Wenger doesn't give a shit what the fans think, and considering he'll run off and cry to Kroenke if Gazidis tries to intervene, I don't think we'll even do that. Not unless Alexis leaves.

Not signing Lacazette might be the best option long term. Who wants to see Giroud up top with Lacazette shoved wide? Wenger will probably do this. He had Alexis tearing it up in the striker's role last season but he still shoved him wide to accommodate Giroud. So don't rule any form of insanity out.

Might be best to hope we sign nobody, endure the coming season and hope, finally, finally, Wenger gets the push. And anyway, if Wenger sticks around, it doesn't matter who we sign because the decent players will be off after a season or two once they realise there's nothing for them here.

Every way you look at it, we can't move on until Wenger is gone. This lunacy about us seriously chasing Mbappe, all hot air to get the fans excited. That's never, ever, ever, ever happening. NEVER. It's totally insane to imagine it's serious. Same goes for any other genuine star the big clubs are chasing. We are not in that league. You can tell Wenger is up to his old tricks by the very fact this Mbappe fantasy has gained so much ground over the past weeks. Martial, another story about an unobtainable player.

Then there's the bullshit about our wage bill being too high so we can't bring in top talent without first getting rid of somebody. Another leak from Pravda I bet, so there's an excuse when Bellerin and Ox walk out the door.

We could end up with Lacazette in (for three seasons max before he pisses off) and Ozil, Alexis, Bellerin and Ox out. Right now that's a far more likely outcome than hanging on to what we have and then adding strength. Wenger's not in control of this. The players have him by his diminutive balls. They are all bigger than this club, because Wenger has made this club so small compared to what it used to be. All for the sake of a few quid spent at the right time in any of the ten seasons past. Suarez, Vidal, Draxler, they were all gettable. Shame we are Barca Lite on the pitch but not Barca proper in the transfer window. Everyone hates them for it but they know how to get the players they want and they don't take no for an answer.

Wenger's only ambition is to be here forever.

[Marc Overmars]

Having made a conscious decision to stop giving a fuck after Wenger signed his new deal, I'm finding this all rather cathartic.

Give it a go guys, you'll feel pretty good.

[selassie]

I’m not dead against Martial. I just don’t see it happening and wouldn’t be fully convinced that he solves our striker problem. After a few games I’m sure Wenger would shift him wide if he’s not tearing it up there. Wenger said he saw him more as a winger and Utd have also played him there for a lot of games. We just don’t need that sort of problem again. Buy a striker that has the numbers and games to back up that his best position is central striker and I can’t see Wenger trying to play them wide.

We’re really in a ridiculous situation. We should have bought Lacazette years ago or at least committed to playing Walcott or Sanchez up front for a whole season. It’s taken us an age to get this right and it’s becoming more costly. Wenger doesn’t have the answers to solve this.

Aye, no chance of Martial happening. I remember years ago Mourinho wouldn't even loan us Demba Ba from Chelsea when we were desperate on deadline day scraping around the basement, no chance of Mourinho selling us an out of favour albeit talented Martial.

Yep, Wenger has really messed up when it comes to the centre forward position, window after window he has mismanaged this position.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Having made a conscious decision to stop giving a fuck after Wenger signed his new deal, I'm finding this all rather cathartic.

Give it a go guys, you'll feel pretty good.

Aye I find myself coming here far less, don't even feel angry or despairing. Just feel I don't care enough

[Özim]

Yes to Lacazette

No to Martial.

The former seems to be a regular scorer, good enough for me.

As for Mbapp and co - hot air, we have zero chance of signing players like that and this nonsense we hear in the press is just that nonsense, talk of these 87 million/100 million+ bids from us are BS, it's more likely to be £8.70.

As for Lacazette, I agree if we sign him it'll be as a replacement for Sanchez who is almost certainly gone, why wouldn't we have signed him up buy now otherwise, as usual everything is done painfully slowly, we're just waiting for the earth to be flat or for the waiting period to end! Allegedly we're after Lacazette, if we're serious we should just stump up and get him, thing is is this just another delaying tactic to try and keep fans happy, seems to suit the club.

Aulas wants 57 million or so, either pay it or move onto somebody else, the fact we seem to be dithering concerns me, typical of this club though, a joke in all areas.

Anyways it's not like we're going to suddenly become world beaters, after all Wenger is still in charge, our best hope is to have some entertaining new players we can be excited about.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aguero swap for Sanchez somebody mentioned to me at work; which filth rag paper came up with that idea? :lol:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yes to Lacazette

No to Martial.

The former seems to be a regular scorer, good enough for me.

As for Mbapp and co - hot air, we have zero chance of signing players like that and this nonsense we hear in the press is just that nonsense, talk of these 87 million/100 million+ bids from us are BS, it's more likely to be £8.70.

As for Lacazette, I agree if we sign him it'll be as a replacement for Sanchez who is almost certainly gone, why wouldn't we have signed him up buy now otherwise, as usual everything is done painfully slowly, we're just waiting for the earth to be flat or for the waiting period to end! Allegedly we're after Lacazette, if we're serious we should just stump up and get him, thing is is this just another delaying tactic to try and keep fans happy, seems to suit the club.

Aulas wants 57 million or so, either pay it or move onto somebody else, the fact we seem to be dithering concerns me, typical of this club though, a joke in all areas.

Anyways it's not like we're going to suddenly become world beaters, after all Wenger is still in charge, our best hope is to have some entertaining new players we can be excited about.

Aulas says one thing one day, another thing another day.

About as trustworthy as Bernard Tapie

[Özim]

Aulas says one thing one day, another thing another day.

About as trustworthy as Bernard Tapie

True but he also dislikes Wenger and is known as a very tough negotiator, he tends to get good prices for players he sells, he doesn't roll over and let players go cut price.

If we want him we'll have to stump up the cash, he's not doing Wenger any favours, who knows if this will happen though, we've been linked with this guy since 2010 and never managed to land him, don't have any confidence it will be any different this time round.

[Niall_Quinn]

Transfer fees were crazy last week. This week they are batshit berserk. They seem to be inflating on a minute by minute basis. There's talk of some defender signing for the chavs who will, with the fee and all the agent bungs and other handouts, cost the club some 70 mill. Every player who can kick a ball without scuffing it is valued at at least 50 mill. In reality there are a handful of world class players in the PL who can turn a game. The rest are glorified pubbers who wouldn't have got anywhere near Arenal and Utd teams of the recent past. What would Bergkamp, Henry, Vieira, Pires be worth in today's loony market? And yet there's not a player out there fit to lace their boots.

[Xhaka Can’t]

TBF, the standard of skill and entertainment correlates with the rise in transfer fees.

Just not in the way you would hope.

[Özim]

Transfer fees were crazy last week. This week they are batshit berserk. They seem to be inflating on a minute by minute basis. There's talk of some defender signing for the chavs who will, with the fee and all the agent bungs and other handouts, cost the club some 70 mill. Every player who can kick a ball without scuffing it is valued at at least 50 mill. In reality there are a handful of world class players in the PL who can turn a game. The rest are glorified pubbers who wouldn't have got anywhere near Arenal and Utd teams of the recent past. What would Bergkamp, Henry, Vieira, Pires be worth in today's loony market? And yet there's not a player out there fit to lace their boots.

Yeah totally crazy I agree, but in the end we're now paying the price for our chronic under investment when prices were more reasonable, we've had opportunities to sign players for decent amounts in the past and scoffed at the prices, now it's coming back to bite us (or maybe it won't if we once again pay for some nobody like Xhaka and Mustafi....although they cost us a packet as well).

Trouble with us now is clubs know we're in desperate need, so they can sit there quite happy knowing they can hike the price up.

[Letters]

You say under-investment, I don't think many clubs have spent more than us over the last few years.
I'm not sure we are in desperate need. We really do need a top striker, other than that I don't think we need a complete overhaul are in desperate need.
IMO a better manager last year would have challenged for the title with the squad we already have.

[GP]

You say under-investment, I don't think many clubs have spent more than us over the last few years.
I'm not sure we are in desperate need. We really do need a top striker, other than that I don't think we need a complete overhaul are in desperate need.
IMO a better manager last year would have challenged for the title with the squad we already have.

Agreed. And we've already bid over 100m for a player. We might not get him but it certainly doesn't point to a lack of desire to spend.

[Özim]

You say under-investment, I don't think many clubs have spent more than us over the last few years.
I'm not sure we are in desperate need. We really do need a top striker, other than that I don't think we need a complete overhaul are in desperate need.
IMO a better manager last year would have challenged for the title with the squad we already have.

I say under investment because you only need to look a the spending in the last decade, as for the players we've spent money on frankly it's also compounded by bad business, overspending on players who aren't worth the money.

Overall we've not invested anywhere near enough and waste a lot of money on players and their wages, players like Walcott, Welbeck, Gibbs, Diaby, Rosicky and the list goes on, we could have spent that money so much more wisely.

As for bidding 100 million, that's media speculation and most likely nonsense.

[Letters]

So you think we've under-invested and overspent. I see.

[Letters]

As for bidding 100 million, that's media speculation and most likely nonsense.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/02/monaco-reject-arsenals-87m-kylian-mbappe-bid/

[selassie]

True but he also dislikes Wenger and is known as a very tough negotiator, he tends to get good prices for players he sells, he doesn't roll over and let players go cut price.

If we want him we'll have to stump up the cash, he's not doing Wenger any favours, who knows if this will happen though, we've been linked with this guy since 2010 and never managed to land him, don't have any confidence it will be any different this time round.

Yep, Aulas is a nightmare to deal with, he'll have Wenger dancing to his tune if he knows we are really keen on landing Lacazette.

It will be a difficult purchase, no doubt about that.

[Özim]

So you think we've under-invested and overspent. I see.

No, we've underspent, but what we have spent we've waste on rubbish.

[Özim]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/06/02/monaco-reject-arsenals-87m-kylian-mbappe-bid/

Oh I see seniour sources confirmed it, must be true then, especially if it's in the paper. :lol:

[Letters]

Oh I see seniour sources confirmed it, must be true then, especially if it's in the paper. :lol:

It's been in pretty much every paper and news source, I picked a broadsheet to demonstrate this is not simply red-top tittle tattle. It's been widely reported.
What evidence do you have for thinking the story false?