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The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 03:43 PM
tbf to the club RE the Debauchy situation, it was the right move at the time. Experienced RB to replace the departing Sagna ..... no one knew that Bellerin would emerge from nowhere and that Debauchy's form would suffer as a consequence of that.

By all accounts we have tried to flog him and made it abundantly clear that he's got no place in the squad ..... don't really blame the club for that one.


Let's hope Monaco don't sell.

Otherwise we're stuck with Ox.

I know Wenger's moronically started him in the past three games but surely Ox himself knows he can't remain at the club having essentially burnt all his bridges with his Pool performance and by publicly angling for a move. :blink:

Granted ordinarily I don't think that Wenger would have the cajones to do it, but given the few tidbits we know about the club meeting on Monday where he concluded to get rid of any player that didn't want to be here, you'd think Wenger would isolate Ox from the squad and force him to play with the youth team if he dared to stick around after all this has been concluded.

Özim
30-08-2017, 03:49 PM
Petit thinks we should sign Mahrez to replace the wingers that run in a straight line

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/30/arsenal-great-emmanuel-petit-urges-club-to-seal-riyad-mahrez-transfer-with-dig-at-current-wingers-6890394/

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 04:00 PM
tbf to the club RE the Debauchy situation, it was the right move at the time. Experienced RB to replace the departing Sagna ..... no one knew that Bellerin would emerge from nowhere and that Debauchy's form would suffer as a consequence of that.

By all accounts we have tried to flog him and made it abundantly clear that he's got no place in the squad ..... don't really blame the club for that one.



I know Wenger's moronically started him in the past three games but surely Ox himself knows he can't remain at the club having essentially burnt all his bridges with his Pool performance and by publicly angling for a move. :blink:

Granted ordinarily I don't think that Wenger would have the cajones to do it, but given the few tidbits we know about the club meeting on Monday where he concluded to get rid of any player that didn't want to be here, you'd think Wenger would isolate Ox from the squad and force him to play with the youth team if he dared to stick around after all this has been concluded.

Do you really think it was a crisis meeting that changed Wenger's mind? Or do you think that the most notorious cash sucking club on the planet never had any intention of losing big next year when our squad jumps overboard? This is all Arsenal FC spin facilitated by pathetic worms like John Cross. Nobody at Arsenal FC has the guts, or the decency, to make a public announcement. Instead these rumours of closed door meetings have surfaced in the most convenient manner.

The 70 mill deal for Alexis has been set up for weeks. Everyone knew that figure and, as if by magic, we are approaching the figure. Ox said he wanted to go months ago. Arsenal Representatives already had a quiet chat with Barca to shift Ozil.

You look at the profit that's going to be taken in this window. Almost reminds me of a sellout before a bust. But there's no bust at this particular club. We have declined steadily as a football team for 10 years and during the same period our cash balance at the bank has risen 500%, all so we could get super cheap terms from the banks and boost the balance sheet which in turn has boosted the share value. That's what it's all about at this place. It's only the fans and a decreasing number of the players who believe this is about football and success on the pitch.

These players were always leaving and, because they are our prize assets, I wouldn't think it strange or far fetched if stories emerged we'd deliberately run down their contracts. That certainly seems to be the case with Ox, at least. This unprecedented bout of insanity might only appear insane to those who don't have all the facts. And that would be us, the fans.

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 04:01 PM
Petit thinks we should sign Mahrez to replace the wingers that run in a straight line

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/30/arsenal-great-emmanuel-petit-urges-club-to-seal-riyad-mahrez-transfer-with-dig-at-current-wingers-6890394/

Petit's a loser who won titles and world cups. He hasn't even made 50,000 substitutions or lied to fans for a decade about stadium moves and phantom transfers. Why would anyone take him seriously?

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
30-08-2017, 04:04 PM
Petit's a loser who won titles and world cups. He hasn't even made 50,000 substitutions or lied to fans for a decade about stadium moves and phantom transfers. Why would anyone take him seriously?

French prick

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 04:05 PM
French prick

Exactly.

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 04:14 PM
Jean-Michael Seri wants to join a ‘big European club’ like Arsenal or Liverpool after his dream move to Barcelona collapsed.

Seri, who has a £36million release clause, remains hopeful of securing a summer move and name dropped two English clubs when asked about his future.


‘I want to be optimistic and think that there are still options,’ Seri told Spanish outlet Mundo Deportivo.


‘Let the two clubs talk quietly again and come to an agreement. We are not talking about any club, where you are going to sign for money.


‘I want to sign for a big European clubs, like Juventus, PSG, Arsenal, Borussia Dortmund, Liverpool.


‘For example, Roma, has made several offers. I have spoken many times with Monchi and this transfer has not occurred either because of economic reasons.’


Doesn't sound like this deal would be in any way possible. Player is for sale. He wants to come here. We have the money. Verging on impossible. Plus he's a disciplined and experienced central midfielder and we desperately need to fill that position base on recent showings. So we don't really need him.

Fuck, fuck, fuck! How can we avoid signing this guy? Somebody come up with something fast FFS! We're not going to let this slip with just a few hours to go before the window shuts.

Meanwhile Alexis' representatives are in talks with Man Utd. God, it's depressing. Very, very depressing.

Power n Glory
30-08-2017, 04:18 PM
Don't fall for the all too convenient smear campaign. A month ago we were in the ideal situation and trendsetters! Other clubs will follow us into the sunlight and low players to run down their contracts! ;)

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 04:21 PM
Don't fall for the all too convenient smear campaign. A month ago we were in the ideal situation and trendsetters! Other clubs will follow us into the sunlight and low players to run down their contracts! ;)

Yes, I know, as well you know. But why do we have to go first? And what if the other lot cheat and start signing their players up?

The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 05:37 PM
Sagna's available on a free.

Honestly wouldn't be opposed to getting him in as cover at RB/RWB assuming Ox is gone.

Xhaka Can’t
30-08-2017, 05:45 PM
His wages would be too high.

Munchies
30-08-2017, 05:52 PM
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Arsenal have no plans to replace AOC & no money for major signings, but only way Sanchez leaves is if #AFC get massive money & replacement

Munchies
30-08-2017, 05:52 PM
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 05:56 PM
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Arsenal have no plans to replace AOC & no money for major signings, but only way Sanchez leaves is if #AFC get massive money & replacement

WTF? We're about to make a net profit on transfers this window and we've cleared a reasonable amount of deadwood of the books.


Kroenke must be siphoning more money out to pay for his brand new stadium in LA for his NFL team. :doh:

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 06:03 PM
WTF? We're about to make a net profit on transfers this window and we've cleared a reasonable amount of deadwood of the books.


Kroenke must be siphoning more money out to pay for his brand new stadium in LA for his NFL team. :doh:

This has been a set up since the transfer window opened. Mbappe my fucking arse. How long did we spend on that one? Followed up by the underbids for Lemar. Killed a momth on that one. Then we dabbled in a bit of Arsenio. Ran back to safe ground with Draxler and then we finished off with some barrel scraping and Jonny Evans. Well played.

Now we don't have time to sign any replacements. That's just sooooooo unlucky.

And Alexis WILL be going, and he WILL be going for 70 mill cash, if the gypos decide to pull that trigger, and that has been our set-up all along.

I still think the big, last minute deal will be Ozil heading out. I can't see them leaving that stone unturned.

Surely it's obvious by now that these people don't give a fuck about Arsenal Football Club. Not a flying fuck.

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 06:27 PM
QUIZ

Q1: Which cunt called Gazidis said this?

“We are in a position that we were not in four or five years ago where we don’t have to sell our best players. We can go and sign world-class players if and when the manager identifies them.”

“We should be able to compete at a level like a club such as Bayern Munich. We can do some things which would excite you. I say that this is an extraordinarily ambitious club.”

Q2: Which cunt called Gazidis has presided over this?

In the decade since Arsenal moved to the Emirates Stadium, cash has risen by more than 500% from £36 million to nearly a quarter of a billion.

Arsenal’s cash balance is more than Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich combined.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oMTDH4NHtuM/V_Flk0ieJAI/AAAAAAAALvE/nW5k01I45lIBvH809b90W-fsUkEJ8-w_gCLcB/s640/17%2BArsenal%2BMoney%2BLeague%2B2016.jpg
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/arsenal-new-sensation.html

selassie
30-08-2017, 06:28 PM
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Arsenal have no plans to replace AOC & no money for major signings, but only way Sanchez leaves is if #AFC get massive money & replacement

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Get ya spreadsheets out lads, let's spend the next 24 hours trying to work out where all the money has gone?!

Marc Overmars
30-08-2017, 06:34 PM
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Arsenal have no plans to replace AOC & no money for major signings, but only way Sanchez leaves is if #AFC get massive money & replacement

No money for major signings???

We've spent fuck all this summer in reality.

Munchies
30-08-2017, 06:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIfy8UAW0AAUWOb.jpg

Xhaka Can’t
30-08-2017, 06:36 PM
Actually we have spent minus fuck all.

The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 06:40 PM
Not to defend Gazidis but it simply could be that we have money but Kroenke's refusing to sanction it because he needs to keep liquidity to finance his new stadium in LA.

Obviously if he had any integrity he'd resign and publicly shit on Stan but finding a spine in the corporate world is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Letters
30-08-2017, 06:47 PM
I'm going to judge this at the end of the transfer window <_<



:crying:

Marc Overmars
30-08-2017, 06:48 PM
Mustafi is apparently staying.

Fee couldn't be agreed with Inter.

Özim
30-08-2017, 06:59 PM
No money for signings, what a joke this club has been taking the fans for a ride for far too long, we've spent less than nothing and reduced our wage bill, make a profit every year and our net spend in the last decade is probably almost zero and somehow we have no money.

Absolutely ridiculous, how long are people going to put up with this? Wish we'd never built the stadium, that's when the greed really started.

How low will this club sink?

Marc Overmars
30-08-2017, 07:01 PM
Debuchy sticking around. He must be loving life not having to earn a single penny of what we're paying him, can't blame him for hanging on to this contract.

selassie
30-08-2017, 07:06 PM
Not to defend Gazidis but it simply could be that we have money but Kroenke's refusing to sanction it because he needs to keep liquidity to finance his new stadium in LA.

Obviously if he had any integrity he'd resign and publicly shit on Stan but finding a spine in the corporate world is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Nah I don't buy it.

We have money, we have stacks of the stuff.....but we have a Manager who dithers and is reluctant to spend, a Chief Exec who won't and can't manage him and an Owner who doesn't really care about the sporting side of things as long as it doesn't affect his investment.

We spend less than Huddersfield and Brighton FFS! It's an absolute disgrace.

The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 07:07 PM
Absolutely ridiculous, how long are people going to put up with this? Wish we'd never built the stadium, that's when the greed really started.

Oh behave. We could never be regarded as a top club playing in an old, small and increasingly run down stadium - the stadium move was essential and good planning by us to do it early on.

It wasn't the stadium it was introducing the cancer Kroenke to our club that began the start of our real long term woes. And ironically it was the guy you're constantly championing on here, David Dein, that introduced him.

A good owner would have said thanks Arsene but good bye and employed someone else but no Kroenke doesn't give a fuck apart from lining his own pockets.

Power n Glory
30-08-2017, 07:23 PM
WTF? We're about to make a net profit on transfers this window and we've cleared a reasonable amount of deadwood of the books.


Kroenke must be siphoning more money out to pay for his brand new stadium in LA for his NFL team. :doh:

Don't fall for that absolute crock of shit! :lol:

Fall for that and you'll fall for anything.

Edit: Oh by the way, have a great investment opportunity. Just email over your credit card details and tell you all about it. :lol:

Munchies
30-08-2017, 07:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4selzTl.jpg

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 07:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4selzTl.jpg

Does that guy have a blindfold on? Looks like it, and would explain everything.

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 07:32 PM
Been fucking hours and we haven't sold anyone. WTF is going on?

Munchies
30-08-2017, 07:36 PM
Been fucking hours and we haven't sold anyone. WTF is going on?

Tomorrow will sure kill time at work atleast!

No trolley dash to look forward to though according to Ornstein

The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 07:37 PM
Don't fall for that absolute crock of shit! :lol:

Fall for that and you'll fall for anything.

Edit: Oh by the way, have a great investment opportunity. Just email over your credit card details and tell you all about it. :lol:

Ornstein is usually pretty reliable though. :getcoat:

GP
30-08-2017, 08:02 PM
Ornstein is usually pretty reliable though. :getcoat:

Ornstein is just a club mouthpiece.

Özim
30-08-2017, 08:08 PM
40 million Ox deal agreed with Liverpool

Done well to get 40 million, Wenger and Kroenke will be celebrating tonight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41098529

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41098529)

Power n Glory
30-08-2017, 08:09 PM
Ornstein is usually pretty reliable though. :getcoat:

Has to be pure bullshit. But when looking at Wenger's transfer record over the past 4 years, it would be justified. Ozil, Alexis, Gabriel, Perez, Debuchy, Mustafi, Perez, Chambers...players all very close to the exit or already left.

Then we have the shite we've bought like Xhaka and Welbeck. We've blown over £200m.

Özim
30-08-2017, 08:11 PM
Oh behave. We could never be regarded as a top club playing in an old, small and increasingly run down stadium - the stadium move was essential and good planning by us to do it early on.

It wasn't the stadium it was introducing the cancer Kroenke to our club that began the start of our real long term woes. And ironically it was the guy you're constantly championing on here, David Dein, that introduced him.

A good owner would have said thanks Arsene but good bye and employed someone else but no Kroenke doesn't give a fuck apart from lining his own pockets.

We're not a top club, we're a small time club masquerading as a top club, we charge high ticket prices make a load of money but that's it, we don't behave like a top club in any other way.

Kroenke was introduced but Hill-Wood and co sold him all their shares and gave him control however and from memory weren't you guys on board with that, would have rather had Usmanov personnally.

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 08:12 PM
Trolley Bingo.

I reckon they have to sign somebody tomorrow. At the very least to provide some sort of distraction for Alexis going out. And even if that doesn't happen, the profit taking this window has been obscene, so surely they have to kick a bit of that back or even Ty will start getting nervous. They won't give a shit about what the fans think, obviously, but they'll probably be worried the media might go all out taking the piss.

I'm trying to think of the most underwhelming signing imaginable. That's who Wenger will want to go for. Trouble is, we've already done most of them. Who's left?

My random candidate is: Amaury Bischoff

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 08:49 PM
We've moved into pole position to sign Jonny Evans.

:woohoo:

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 08:55 PM
Swansea secure Renato Sanches on loan from Bayern.

Guess we couldn't afford the loan fee.

The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 09:06 PM
Swansea secure Renato Sanches on loan from Bayern.

Guess we couldn't afford the loan fee.

He's a bit shit tbf.

Much rather get Draxler who's surplus to requirements at PSG.

Keith
30-08-2017, 09:41 PM
We've moved into pole position to sign Jonny Evans.

:woohoo:

£30m Jonny Evans

rodders
30-08-2017, 10:06 PM
Lies lies and more lies

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 10:12 PM
Lies lies and more lies

I think we're past the lies now, and into the piss-taking and gloating period.

Marc Overmars
30-08-2017, 10:15 PM
Jonny Evans. :lol:

What an age we live in.

The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2017, 10:30 PM
He's 29 as well. :blink:


Even if Wenger thinks he's better than Mustafi, we might as well persist with him as he'll improve.

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 10:46 PM
And he's recovering from injury, so he'll be heading straight for the treatment room.

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 10:49 PM
Wilshere to West Ham has started to do the rounds.

Munchies
30-08-2017, 11:22 PM
Wilshere to West Ham has started to do the rounds.

permanent deal pls

He needs to fuck off too

Niall_Quinn
30-08-2017, 11:57 PM
permanent deal pls

He needs to fuck off too

He's our best midfielder by a country mile now that Santi is dead. But just as undisciplined as any Wenger player, unfortunately.

ANY other manager on the planet, pick ANY one from Sunday league through to the very top tier - EXCEPT Wenger, could have got so much more out of Wilshere.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:13 AM
For whatever reason, possibly connected to the player stating, "I'm not interested in joining them", Jonny Evans is set to snub Arsenal and join the gypos. Guess we need to set our sights a bit lower.

The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2017, 03:01 AM
He's our best midfielder by a country mile now that Santi is dead.
.

:blink:

Have you been drinking tonight NQ?

He may have had some talent at one point in his career but he's been crap for ages after throwing all his talent away. Fuck it, he couldn't shine at Bournemouth despite going on a (for him at least) injury free run.

Ramsey & Xhaka are far more naturally talented players .... and that's saying something. And also two players who'd benefit a lot more from proper coaching than a coward like Jack. The only reason he's been kept around for so long is that he's been one of Wenger's favourites and like the Ox, Wenger's desperate not to admit he failed on him.

Like the Ox .... good riddance. Probably won't realise how good he had it here until he's long left. Just a shame we didn't milk the Gypos for 40 million plus a few years back when he still had some market value.

Not that's it's likely to happen but it frees up a shit load of wages (allegedly another undeserved high earner on 100k +++) that we could use on a Draxler or Seri.

Penguin
31-08-2017, 06:27 AM
Jack does have some talent but he's an idiot. He has an obsession with getting his head down and dribbling, kind of similar to Ramsey's obsession with bombing forward to score goal. He's also as much of a defensive liability as Ramsey and Xhaka and doesn't offer enough in the final third.

Letters
31-08-2017, 07:47 AM
ANY other manager on the planet, pick ANY one from Sunday league through to the very top tier - EXCEPT Wenger, could have got so much more out of Wilshere.
:lol:

Although you lose points for saying "manager" rather than "human", that would have been better.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 07:55 AM
Eddie Howe didn't get anything out of Wilshere that Wenger didn't

Whilst I agree that young players are no longer developing under Wenger, I think it might have to be accepted that Wilshere like a lot of promising young stars is just a cunt.

Whilst you can't take anecdotal evidence as comprehensive, I have spoken to different people who know him and know of him and the verdict is the same chavvy little thug.

Now either they are all talking shit (possible I guess) or he just is a turd who doesn't have it in him to reach his own potential.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 08:05 AM
Arsenal have no interest in Mahrez according to Ornstein. (who also says West Brom rejected Mustafi).

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 08:22 AM
:blink:

Have you been drinking tonight NQ?

He may have had some talent at one point in his career but he's been crap for ages after throwing all his talent away. Fuck it, he couldn't shine at Bournemouth despite going on a (for him at least) injury free run.

Ramsey & Xhaka are far more naturally talented players .... and that's saying something. And also two players who'd benefit a lot more from proper coaching than a coward like Jack. The only reason he's been kept around for so long is that he's been one of Wenger's favourites and like the Ox, Wenger's desperate not to admit he failed on him.

Like the Ox .... good riddance. Probably won't realise how good he had it here until he's long left. Just a shame we didn't milk the Gypos for 40 million plus a few years back when he still had some market value.

Not that's it's likely to happen but it frees up a shit load of wages (allegedly another undeserved high earner on 100k +++) that we could use on a Draxler or Seri.

Wilshere has more talent than Xhaka and Ramsey. He just can't stay fit and has lost his focus. One of the brightest youth prospects we had and looked like the real deal when he was a kid.

Özim
31-08-2017, 08:37 AM
Wilshere is one of those players who has been greatly overrated, he's had a handful of good games in his entire career and is always injured. The great English hope hasn't turned out to be, lacks discipline, not motivated enough, gives away possession too much in bad places, can't tackle and runs into players rather than releasing the ball when he should.

Hopefully he goes as it would be no great loss, hardly pulled any trees out of the ground at Bournemouth either, we gave him big contracts before he proved anything which is probably not a good thing either, as someone said should have taken the cash a few years back when we were offered a decent amount.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 08:42 AM
City offered 50m only two years ago but we turned it down. He was injured the following year before joining Bournemouth!

Terrible management.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 09:17 AM
Wilshere has more talent than Xhaka and Ramsey. He just can't stay fit and has lost his focus. One of the brightest youth prospects we had and looked like the real deal when he was a kid.

Definitely he has more talent than them, but if he can't stay fit or perform well when he does it means very little

I think Wenger has ruined or misused a lot of decent players in the last five-ten years

His biggest sin with Wilshere is being too patient with him

Dicks and chicks
31-08-2017, 09:27 AM
Swedish newspaper says Sanchez has done his medical at city

Gooner23
31-08-2017, 09:46 AM
Must be true then!

I do think City will pay what it takes to get the deal done though.

Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2017, 09:52 AM
It also says there is a sale at IKEA.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 10:01 AM
:blink:

Have you been drinking tonight NQ?

He may have had some talent at one point in his career but he's been crap for ages after throwing all his talent away. Fuck it, he couldn't shine at Bournemouth despite going on a (for him at least) injury free run.

Ramsey & Xhaka are far more naturally talented players .... and that's saying something. And also two players who'd benefit a lot more from proper coaching than a coward like Jack. The only reason he's been kept around for so long is that he's been one of Wenger's favourites and like the Ox, Wenger's desperate not to admit he failed on him.

Like the Ox .... good riddance. Probably won't realise how good he had it here until he's long left. Just a shame we didn't milk the Gypos for 40 million plus a few years back when he still had some market value.

Not that's it's likely to happen but it frees up a shit load of wages (allegedly another undeserved high earner on 100k +++) that we could use on a Draxler or Seri.

All of those accusations can be levelled at Ramsey and Xhaka. We know how good a player Ramsey can be, because we saw it with our own eyes. Now look at him. Xhaka could play football in Germany, but not here? None of these players have had the character or balls to overcome Wenger. In terms of raw talent Jack's ahead of them all. A marvellously talented player that couldn't get the better of Wenger and has personal flaws that have been allowed to proliferate under a weak and useless manager who has somehow obtained a reputation for being a master at steering the careers of young players. Not Wenger's fault that these players have flaws. But it was his job to deal with it. Years on we are still seeing players that we know are talented playing shocking football. One man responsible for that.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 10:04 AM
:lol:

Although you lose points for saying "manager" rather than "human", that would have been better.

You're still here, trying to pretend Wenger is competent? Name ONE manager that's less competent than Wenger based on ACTUAL events rather than media myth. Name ONE manager who would have sat Lacazette on the bench for that game against Liverpool. Name ONE manager who would have sat on his arse watching that first half performance without doing a damn thing about it. And there are many, many matches where the same questions can be raised.

Name ONE manager more incompetent than Wenger. And give an example to demonstrate. You can choose from any manager on the planet.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 10:06 AM
It also says there is a sale at IKEA.

That's why I like the Swedish press. It's not all doom and gloom with them.

Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2017, 10:14 AM
Just in case.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Suicide/Pages/Getting-help.aspx

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 10:27 AM
Just in case.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Suicide/Pages/Getting-help.aspx

Nope. Not going to be feeling suicidal over Arsenal today. I've already been through the Suicide Period, I survived the Waiting Period, weathered the Wanting Period, carried the Hating Period with style. Now I'm into the Why Don't You Just Switch Off Your Television Set and Go and Do Something Less Boring Instead Period.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 10:30 AM
So.

Draxler and Mahrez in guys. Yesssssssss!

Or no.

Problems I can see with these deals:

1) They are made up.
2) Even if they were real, neither Draxler nor Mahrez can play as CB or CM. (Although, you know, just maybe...)
3) Bringing in players to replace even better players gets us nowhere.
4) They are made up.

So what we need to do is watch Sky Sports right up until 11PM and listen out for these big signings being confirmed. Because that's definitely going to happen.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 10:36 AM
Just to be clear, here's what we are losing today:

Games: 51
Goals: 30
Assists: 19
Bookings: 8
Minutes played: 4,229
Minutes per goal: 141

Plus:
Yards run: 2 billion
Commitment shown: Total

Suggestions on how much it is going to cost to replace that and who can be approached, negotiated and signed in a single day.

There is nobody. Suarez? Lewandowski? Vidal PLUS Lemar?

Ain't happening really, is it?

Mission accomplished.

dostoy
31-08-2017, 11:04 AM
Ok, enough with the silly comments and all the bullshit.

I hope that Ox and Alexis do leave today because they both deserve better, especially Alexis.

I would like to see Ozil leave because he never has been what Arsenal really need..

I don't want to see any replacements and I want to see Arsenal have a terrible season but not relegated as this is the ONLY, absolutely the ONLY, way to get Wenger out.

Munchies
31-08-2017, 11:21 AM
We apparently rejected a £20m bid for Chambers

why? :haha:

Sell everyone

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 11:27 AM
Ok, enough with the silly comments and all the bullshit.

I hope that Ox and Alexis do leave today because they both deserve better, especially Alexis.

I would like to see Ozil leave because he never has been what Arsenal really need..

I don't want to see any replacements and I want to see Arsenal have a terrible season but not relegated as this is the ONLY, absolutely the ONLY, way to get Wenger out.

But I thought everyone was pissed because the players are leaving and we aren't buying anyone and we're dropping down the table? Won't we just be more pissed if it happens faster? And what do you think the board and the manager will do? Leave? Hasn't happened so far. They've had an excuse for everything and, in the end, they couldn't give a shit what anyone thinks, says or does provided it doesn't disrupt their profit stream. These bastards are doing terrible damage to the club and the reputation of the club. We shouldn't be hoping they can accelerate the damage. They aren't leaving, no matter what. And especially not based on a lack of performance, as we have clearly seen. 10 years of it and not a hint of Wenger being sacked. Fuck all investment and no trace of Kroenke fucking off. Ain't happening. Only good outcome here os for the fans to get together and try and make is so toxic for these scumbags that they run in fear. Then try to pick up the pieces and hope the damage is not irreparable.

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 11:42 AM
All of those accusations can be levelled at Ramsey and Xhaka. We know how good a player Ramsey can be, because we saw it with our own eyes. Now look at him. Xhaka could play football in Germany, but not here? None of these players have had the character or balls to overcome Wenger. In terms of raw talent Jack's ahead of them all. A marvellously talented player that couldn't get the better of Wenger and has personal flaws that have been allowed to proliferate under a weak and useless manager who has somehow obtained a reputation for being a master at steering the careers of young players. Not Wenger's fault that these players have flaws. But it was his job to deal with it. Years on we are still seeing players that we know are talented playing shocking football. One man responsible for that.

:gp: Hard pressed to name a single young player that received a good education at Arsenal. All arrive as young boys and leave with serious questions marks about their ability or just disappear all together. It's not the right environment to develop kids. We've been at it for over 10 years and haven't come close to producing what was expected.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 11:45 AM
20m bid from Leicester for Chambers rejected. :lol:

Özim
31-08-2017, 11:46 AM
People are now coming to the realisation that Wenger does almost nothing right. But I guess that still deserves and new contract and payrise in Kroenke's world.

Got to say Wenger has had far too much leeway from everyone, he should have been gone years ago, he'd already had ample opportunity to put things right back then and clearly hadn't.

What's happening now is the culmination of years of neglect, eventually that catches up with you.

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 11:48 AM
Ok, enough with the silly comments and all the bullshit.

I hope that Ox and Alexis do leave today because they both deserve better, especially Alexis.

I would like to see Ozil leave because he never has been what Arsenal really need..

I don't want to see any replacements and I want to see Arsenal have a terrible season but not relegated as this is the ONLY, absolutely the ONLY, way to get Wenger out.

Arsene shouldn't be allowed to spend another penny. The Board would be right to hold funds back. They should be looking for a replacement as we speak.

Özim
31-08-2017, 11:51 AM
Arsene shouldn't be allowed to spend another penny. The Board would be right to hold funds back. They should be looking for a replacement as we speak.

Trouble is we know they won't be looking for a replacement, he's the golden boy, he can do no wrong, even when he clearly does he gets himself a pay rise and new contract, he makes the rules he has to follow, Gazidis getting vetoed on the Director of football was a definite sign if we didn't know before.

Too much power in the wrong hands and the only thing that will stop this is an empty stadium realistically.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 11:52 AM
Spurs sign Aurier.

And also Llorente. :lol:
I love how so much weird shit happens on this day.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 11:52 AM
Arsene shouldn't be allowed to spend another penny. The Board would be right to hold funds back. They should be looking for a replacement as we speak.

Except they aren't, they are spinning for him because as long as he's in charge they can get paid for doing nothing

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 11:58 AM
Everton make loan offer for Lucas Perez.

Özim
31-08-2017, 11:59 AM
Spurs sign Aurier.

And also Llorente. :lol:
I love how so much weird shit happens on this day.

Spurs were always going to make signings, they've been quietish, logically it was going to happen today.

For us though, we've been very quiet and sold a load of players (maybe more to come) but logic goes out of the window, instead we claim we have no money :violin:, it's not even clever spin!

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:00 PM
Except they aren't, they are spinning for him because as long as he's in charge they can get paid for doing nothing

Yeah, I have to agree. It's win/ win for those cunts. If they can somehow keep Wenger in his chair, they retain the only football manager (so-called) in the world who prioritises profits over football. But if the heat gets to much, they can sack him and declare a new era. Some fools might even see them as heroes. The only challenge will be to find some cunt who will play along like the cunt they get rid of. Ten million quid should take care of that easily enough.

My impression is that the hardcore Wenger out agitators (who we should all be apologising to on bended knee) have concluded their work is done regarding Wenger and it's just a matter of time. They have turned their guns on Kroenke and that is exactly the right thing to do. He's got to be next. Both barrels, every hour of every day until the noise is heard all the way across the ocean.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:02 PM
Everton make loan offer for Lucas Perez.

Hope we accept it and let Perez rescue his career. Although he still looks like a player that could do a job here, not that the stupid incompetent cunt Wenger would ever twig.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:06 PM
:gp: Hard pressed to name a single young player that received a good education at Arsenal. All arrive as young boys and leave with serious questions marks about their ability or just disappear all together. It's not the right environment to develop kids. We've been at it for over 10 years and haven't come close to producing what was expected.

But, but, he turned Henry from a winger into a striker! And...

He turned Henry from a winger into a striker!

And remember when he turned Henry from a winger into a striker!

But his finest moment was when he turned Henry from a winger into a striker.

Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2017, 12:10 PM
I remember when he turned Henry into a striker whereas he was previously a winger.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:16 PM
I remember when he turned Henry into a striker whereas he was previously a winger.

Exactly! Just another one of his achievements to add to the others I mentioned.

And don't forget Henry. He was a winger when he first came, but Wenger changed him into a striker.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:17 PM
And gave him broccoli.

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 12:17 PM
Except they aren't, they are spinning for him because as long as he's in charge they can get paid for doing nothing

Could be spin for Wenger. He may have asked his old pal Stan for a new team.

But if we sell everyone off and he's left to work with what we have, I dunno. Maybe they've had a change of heart and crunched the numbers on how much he's wasted. If they only care about money, they should be looking at it that way. But I'm not even sure it's even about greedy. Seems more like a misplaced loyalty to manager well passed his best.

KSE Comedy Club
31-08-2017, 12:22 PM
Exactly! Just another one of his achievements to add to the others I mentioned.

And don't forget Henry. He was a winger when he first came, but Wenger changed him into a striker.

I'd like to add, that wenger also converted the winger, Henry, into a striker.

It was pure genius that has never been replicated since.

For 10 or 14 years, in fact.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:26 PM
Could be spin for Wenger. He may have asked his old pal Stan for a new team.

But if we sell everyone off and he's left to work with what we have, I dunno. Maybe they've had a change of heart and crunched the numbers on how much he's wasted. If they only care about money, they should be looking at it that way. But I'm not even sure it's even about greedy. Seems more like a misplaced loyalty to manager well passed his best.

Nah. There's a cold, hard numbers game going on here. If you view this in terms of a competitive sports team then everything that's happening is quite literally insane. But, apart from Wenger who definitely has something wrong with his head, the likes of Kronke and Gazidis aren't insane. They are corporateers. Modern day pirates. They oerate for one purpose, the sacred oath of the corporation - make as much profit as possible and incur as few costs as possible in the process. When all is said and done, that will be the goal of the Arsenal Corporation. We aren't inside and we don't know what the real agenda and business plan is. We get the PR and the spin and have to work things by piecing together the debris. But we're still all focused on results on the pitch, improving the team, competing for trophies. We have the wrong end of the stick which is why nothing makes any sense.

I'm more convinced than ever that 2019/20 is the real deadline at this club. That's why they have done the unthinkable, in football terms, and retained Wenger. They are all in this together, they each have their role to play. Stan will cash out at around the 2 - 2.5 billion mark and a dark and fiery figure will emerge from the pit and take control as we move into the gold plated ball of shit era of Euro League football. That's the play here. It's the only one that makes sense given what we are witnessing.

KSE Comedy Club
31-08-2017, 12:29 PM
City have made a second bid for Sanchez

No fee announced yet but was just on BBC news.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 12:29 PM
Balague has tweeted that Alexis will sign for City for £60m, on the basis that we sign Lemar.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:29 PM
And, what's more, when they cash out - Wenger will leave, for the good of the club and because he's a humble man that listens to the fans. And the fans will love him for it. And Kroenke will bow out - because he's doing the right thing for Arsenal and because he too loves the fans. And the fans will say, you know what, he wasn't all bad.

Sickening.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:32 PM
Balague has tweeted that Alexis will sign for City for £60m, on the basis that we sign Lemar.

We won't be signing Lemar and Alexis will go for 70 mill. This has been on rails for months.

And replacing Alexis with Lemar was never going to do anything for us anyway. I really hope the fans don't fall for it if we slip Alexis out the back door and bring in an inferior replacement through the front. And at this stage, all we can sign is an inferior replacement. And Wenger will fuck that player up and make him worthless anyway. I don't actually want to see that happen to Lemar. I like him the way he is now.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:34 PM
I'd like to add, that wenger also converted the winger, Henry, into a striker.

It was pure genius that has never been replicated since.

For 10 or 14 years, in fact.

Surprises me that nobody has mentioned what is probably Wenger's biggest achievement. Henry. He was a winger when he joined, but Wenger turned him into a striker and gave him all his natural talent. And he did it at the same time he was building a stadium with his bare hands. Fucking impressive if you ask me.

Özim
31-08-2017, 12:36 PM
We won't be signing Lemar and Alexis will go for 70 mill. This has been on rails for months.

And replacing Alexis with Lemar was never going to do anything for us anyway. I really hope the fans don't fall for it if we slip Alexis out the back door and bring in an inferior replacement through the front. And at this stage, all we can sign is an inferior replacement. And Wenger will fuck that player up and make him worthless anyway. I don't actually want to see that happen to Lemar. I like him the way he is now.

Spot on Alexis provides goals, lots of them, this guy won't. Sad thing is we have our striker now in Lacazette (pot luck again as he was heading for Athletico, reckon Wenger only signed him because not other options were viable anyway) who will score goals, so with Alexis we would have had two genuine goal threats, if we lose Alexis we're back down to one goal threat and will be very reliant on Lacazettes' goals.

Lemar is a 21 year old kid who seem to be a creator more than a goalscorer anyway. This transfer window has been a total disaster however you spin it. 2 of our out of contract players seemingly on their way out despite the manager assuring everyone they wouldn't be sold, what does that make him?

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:38 PM
Spot on Alexis provides goals, lots of them, this guy won't. Sad thing is we have our striker now in Lacazette (pot luck again as he was heading for Athletico, reckon Wenger only signed him because not other options were viable anyway) who will score goals, so with Alexis we would have had two genuine goal threats, if we lose Alexis we're back down to one goal threat and will be very reliant on Lacazettes' goals.

Lemar is a 21 year old kid who seem to be a creator more than a goalscorer anyway. This transfer window has been a total disaster however you spin it. 2 of our out of contract players seemingly on their way out despite the manager assuring everyone they wouldn't be sold, what does that make him?

We also have Welbeck who can play there.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:41 PM
Sky Sports saying the bid for Alexis is 55 mill :haha:

They are doing an Arsenal. Are they taking the piss? Will they go 60, 65 and then go all un-Arsenal and offer something that works. Or back out and declare they almost signed him?

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 12:44 PM
BBC claiming its 60 million

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 12:46 PM
BBC claiming its 60 million

Sky says 55 mill - up to 60 mill. So sounds like those infamous add-ons. Will go to 60 mill if Wenger plays Welbeck against the gypos.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 01:24 PM
Arsene Wenger says his phone is always "red hot" on transfer Deadline Day.

Arsenal sold Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain to Liverpool earlier on Thursday, with Alexis Sanchez set to be the subject of another bid from Manchester City ahead of the 11pm window deadline.

The Gunners are happy with their two summer signings, Sead Kolasinac and Alexandre Lacazette, and have no interest in Leicester City winger Riyad Mahrez, according to Sky sources.

But Wenger insists the last day of the transfer window is always busy as the Arsenal boss.

"I wake up very early every day, transfer deadline day or not," the boss told Arsenal Player. "You're on alert and you look around Europe. The phone is red-hot most of the time.

Could explain why we are doing fuck all, the phone is too hot to pick up.

Red hot indeed. We're just deluged by new signings. Where are we going to play them all?

dostoy
31-08-2017, 01:29 PM
Don't you dare buy anyone Wenger.

Be a tight git for one more day, you know you want to.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 01:31 PM
Could explain why we are doing fuck all, the phone is too hot to pick up.

Red hot indeed. We're just deluged by new signings. Where are we going to play them all?

I've now got images of him with the bat phone and then sliding down a pole

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 01:34 PM
Sky Sports: Arsenal "agree in principle" to 55 mill + 5 mill add-on deal for Alexis.

We will not be selling him. We will not be selling him unless it is cash plus a player. We want 70 mill. Okay, fuck it then, giz the cash.

Every source saying the gypos would have gone to 70 mill. If this is true then it makes it virtually certain we planned to flog Alexis all along. Clubs that want to keep the player can afford to hold out and prey on the desperation of the buyer (see Monaco and Liverpool). Clubs who want the cash won't risk losing it. I wonder what camp we fall into.

Bye Alexis. No hard feelings. You worked your nuts off for us, but nothing can overcome Wenger.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 01:34 PM
I've now got images of him with the bat phone and then sliding down a pole

I assume you mean the Only Fools and Horses version of Batman?

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 01:36 PM
Red hot because he's probably burning the phone.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 01:37 PM
Kelechi Nwakali off to Venlo on loan. Good escape kid.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 01:39 PM
I assume you mean the Only Fools and Horses version of Batman?

What have you two come as?

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 01:40 PM
I'd like to add, that wenger also converted the winger, Henry, into a striker.

It was pure genius that has never been replicated since.

For 10 or 14 years, in fact.

:lol:


But did you know it was his fault Henry was shafted out wide in the first place?

Henry made his debut for Monaco just two weeks before Wenger was sacked as first-team coach in 1994.

He was deployed as a left-winger because of his raw pace and dribbling ability, despite the fact he had been invited to join the academy after a scout witnessed him score six goals in a 6-0 win playing as a centre-forward.

So when Jean Tigana took over as manager he simply left Henry on the wing.

https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/194777/remembering-thierry-henrys-days-as-a-left-winger-with-monaco-and-juventus/

I still don’t understand why he shifts players into wide positions considering he hardly coached Henry when he was a winger. He can’t teach Theo what Henry learned playing wide all those years and then try to switch him to playing as a striker. He only has half of the information because he wasn’t there to school Henry on what makes a great winger.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 01:45 PM
'Arry wants to get Wilshere on loan at Birmingham. :lol:

Özim
31-08-2017, 01:48 PM
Could explain why we are doing fuck all, the phone is too hot to pick up.

Red hot indeed. We're just deluged by new signings. Where are we going to play them all?

:lol:

Worst manager in Arsenals history, the man has sold the fans down the river, he really doesn't care about this club or the fans, I'm starting wish he'd never come here, yes we may not have won a few doubles (yes it was amazing but this is equally as bad if not worse than that was amazing) but the club probably wouldn't in the mess it's in now and we wouldn't be stuck with an owner like Kroenke or a manager who just won't leave and we might actually be enjoying watching the clubs matches and looking forward to transfer windows.

Özim
31-08-2017, 01:54 PM
We've accepted City's 60 million bit it seems, just looking to sign up Lemar, some 21 year old kid with 1 good season in Ligue 1 with no record of goals. Good deal :coffee:

Oh and Ox and Sanchez aren't leaving don't worry, neither are Cesc and Nasri :coffee:

Özim
31-08-2017, 01:55 PM
Only big club to consistently sell it's best players to other big clubs in the same league incidentally, a joke in every sense, morally inferior cup :trophy:

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 01:58 PM
Alexis has apparently liked a tweet that claims he staying at Arsenal. I don't know what that means, but it sounds important.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:00 PM
Daily Mail is reporting we've bid 90 million for Lemar.

Has to be bullshit or sheer desperation. We could have got him for 50 mill 2 months ago.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:04 PM
'Arry wants to get Wilshere on loan at Birmingham. :lol:

He wants Alex Song too.

Can you imagine that midfield? Both of them would nip off down to the pub halfway through the game.

Özim
31-08-2017, 02:06 PM
Daily Mail is reporting we've bid 90 million for Lemar.

Has to be bullshit or sheer desperation. We could have got him for 50 mill 2 months ago.

No.

Mbappe is our number one target.

dostoy
31-08-2017, 02:13 PM
Seriously, what top player would want to come to Arsenal ?

Seri, Lemar, Draxler maybe Carvalho, they would be better off where they are now.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:16 PM
No.

Mbappe is our number one target.

We're getting him too.

7 hours until safety.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 02:17 PM
Lemar is a decent talent but is nothing like Alexis. He is a playmaker in the Ozil/Mata mould and doesn't get many goals.

dostoy
31-08-2017, 02:20 PM
I very much hope Alexis leaves for whoever, he deserves better than Arsenal.

You could say that about any Arsenal player but especially Alexis.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:21 PM
Is Wenger going to mark himself #SAFE on Facebook when the window slams shut?

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 02:24 PM
He wants Alex Song too.

Can you imagine that midfield? Both of them would nip off down to the pub halfway through the game.

To meet with Xhaka and Ramsey.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:27 PM
Assuming there's even a shred of truth to the Lemar bid, it's going to provide psychiatrists with years of research material.

We go in at 30. Monaco says fuck off, not for sale. We want to sell him for 80 mill next season.
So we offer 35. Fuck off, not for sale, unless it's 50 mill.
So we offer 45.
Then we say the deal is dead.
Then in the last hours of the transfer window we offer 90? 10 mill more than Monaco wanted next year?

That cannot be right. Not even for Wenger and Arsenal.

Daily Mail must be working for Arsenal.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:30 PM
SHAWCROSS SIGNS!

A new deal at Stoke.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:32 PM
Donyell Malen has left Arsenal to join PSV Eindhoven in a permanent move for an undisclosed fee.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 02:36 PM
SHAWCROSS SIGNS!

A new deal at Stoke.

Don't even make jokes about that

Edgy humour is one thing, that's sick

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:41 PM
Don't even make jokes about that

Edgy humour is one thing, that's sick

As well you know, I am not well you know?

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 02:43 PM
Philippe Coutinho - 11/8 to join Barca, 8/15 to stay at Liverpool
Alexis Sanchez - 1/5 to join Man City, 100/30 to stay at Arsenal
Thomas Lemar - evens to join Arsenal, 3/1 for Liverpool, 13/8 to stay at Monaco

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 02:49 PM
As well you know, I am not well you know?

That's no excuse

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 02:50 PM
Although on the other hand it might make Ramsey take his work a bit more seriously

hobson's choice
31-08-2017, 02:53 PM
Although on the other hand it might make Ramsey take his work a bit more seriously

Haha

selassie
31-08-2017, 02:55 PM
Philippe Coutinho - 11/8 to join Barca, 8/15 to stay at Liverpool
Alexis Sanchez - 1/5 to join Man City, 100/30 to stay at Arsenal
Thomas Lemar - evens to join Arsenal, 3/1 for Liverpool, 13/8 to stay at Monaco

Been reading in a few places Lemar wants to join Liverpool not us.

selassie
31-08-2017, 02:57 PM
Lemar is a decent talent but is nothing like Alexis. He is a playmaker in the Ozil/Mata mould and doesn't get many goals.

He scored 14 last season, but I get your point, he's not a goalscorer like Alexis.

Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2017, 02:58 PM
Been reading in a few places Lemar wants to join Liverpool not us.

The he clearly doesn't meet our insanity threshold.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 03:09 PM
SSN saying we have offered £92m for Lemar. :blink:

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 03:10 PM
We have offered 100 million euros for Lemar

WTF?

Monaco said to be "softening their stance" on letting player go.

92 million quid. For a 21 year old. He's a brilliant player and a huge prospect but this is just insane. And he's not even a replacement for Alexis.

Somebody must have stepped in here and taken transfers out of Wenger's hands. There's no way in a million years he'd be involved in a bid like this.

I have to say, I'm with Wenger on this one. Losing Alexis is the problem here. I guess that was happening anyway, but we could have used the money plus the Ox funds to get a decent CB and CM. That's what we really need, provided the old goat actually intends to play Lacazette.

Essentially what we're doing here is swapping Lemar for Alexis and Ox. That's a crazy deal by any measure.

AND WE COULD HAVE HAD HIM FOR 50 MILL IF WE ACTED EARLY!

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 03:12 PM
Wenger has faxed Monaco asking them to give Dick Law's right arm back.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 03:13 PM
Just to confirm. Monaco's plan was to sell Lemar for 80 mill - NEXT YEAR!

They must be pissing themselves laughing.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 03:16 PM
Here's what we need to do.

Forget this transfer window. Sack Wenger and his whole team. And hire the whole staff of Monaco.

These guys are on target to bank half a billion this window and they are still winning matches and developing great talent.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 03:20 PM
Interesting to know how anyone but the clubs know we have bid for Lemar. Or how any of these bids become public and so quickly. Do they have to be announced? Or is there a bunch of grasses hanging around the fax machines with mobile phones with the press on speeddial?

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 03:23 PM
Perez escaping to Deportivo. Looks like he's under the fence and legging it off into the distance. Bookies can't see how anyone will catch him now and have suspended betting.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 03:25 PM
Of course this 92 mill bid is all dependent on Lemar accepting a ticket for passage on Wenger's Titanic. Plenty has changed since he last agreed terms.

What a ridiculous club. We now have to sit down and tie up two mega money transfers, one out and one in, within the next 7 hours. In some ways it hints at a lack of planning.

selassie
31-08-2017, 03:31 PM
Wenger has faxed Monaco asking them to give Dick Law's right arm back.

:lol:

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 03:39 PM
Poor old Wrighty is having a melt down

He needs to chill out, I can imagine the veins throbbing on that malteaser he calls a head

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 03:41 PM
Poor old Wrighty is having a melt down

He needs to chill out, I can imagine the veins throbbing on that malteaser he calls a head

:haha:

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 03:47 PM
Pray Lemar has sense to turn down the contract. Reluctant to offer Sanchez a contract worth around £60m over 3 to 4 years but willing to spend £90m on some kid with one good season under his belt plus wages that will probably most likely be around the £200k mark?

What fucking idiots. This can't be true.

Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2017, 03:51 PM
What fucking idiots. This can't be true.

Just listen to yourself.

Özim
31-08-2017, 03:58 PM
Really coming out of this transfer window with our tails between our legs, Perez who we didn't want to loan but wanted to sell looks like he's going on loan, Gibbs who we wanted 15 odd million for we sold for 7 million (even though we got a 10 million earlier in the window), Ox wasn't leaving and has left, Alexis wasn't leaving and looks like he's leaving.

To cap it off going back in for Lemar and offering way over the odds because we're desperate (if you believe reports)

Really had a stinker :lol:

What a disaster!

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:01 PM
Pray Lemar has sense to turn down the contract. Reluctant to offer Sanchez a contract worth around £60m over 3 to 4 years but willing to spend £90m on some kid with one good season under his belt plus wages that will probably most likely be around the £200k mark?

What fucking idiots. This can't be true.

It's as if some sort of money laundering deal is going on, using the transfer window as cover.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:06 PM
Lemar is currently with France. And Dechamps has said no players will be allowed to leave the camp for transfer negotiations. Doesn't Dechamps hate Wenger?

Power n Glory
31-08-2017, 04:09 PM
Just listen to yourself.

Think about it. Supposedly we were reluctant to offer Sanchez a massive pay rise when he was prepared to negotiate. Now we're willing to spend £90m on some kid from Monaco, plus wages? Has to be bullshit.

Plus, Wenger shouldn't be given another penny spend. He should be sacked and that money should be left for someone else to use. The guy has no idea what he's doing.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 04:16 PM
Stinks of desperation. 100m euros FFS, at least players like Pogba and Lukaku had an established pedigree.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:17 PM
Some stupid cunt is commenting on the Arsenal situation on Sky right now. Apparently or fans and Alexis are suffering from disenfranchisement. I think he means disenchantment and so do the hosts, because they are really struggling not to laugh.

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:17 PM
I reckon it's BS, probably to make it look as if we tried (just like the Mbappe nonsense earlier in the summer) :violin:but if by some miracle it isn't then:

a) He's not a replacement for Alexis, he's relatively unproven, has 1 decent year behind him and doesn't seem to be a goalscorer, so we've gone back to where we were in that we're now short of a 2nd player who can get us goals when we need them
b) 92 million are we being serious? If we'd tried earlier in the window we'd have got him for a fraction of the cost, we must have a bunch of amateurs dealing with transfers

Either way it's been a disastrous window and this does nothing to resolve that, hopefully there will be a massive backlash after this.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:19 PM
Stinks of desperation. 100m euros FFS, at least players like Pogba and Lukaku had an established pedigree.

I'll laugh if they spend the 92 mill and then the Alexis deal falls through. Would serve them right and the fans would accidentally get something out of this window.

Unfortunately it's inevitable we'll end up suffering from disenfranchisementism.

Globalgunner
31-08-2017, 04:22 PM
Some stupid cunt is commenting on the Arsenal situation on Sky right now. Apparently or fans and Alexis are suffering from disenfranchisement. I think he means disenchantment and so do the hosts, because they are really struggling not to laugh.

Simon Jordan..former Crystal Palace chairman......There is some chemical enhancement going on behind his reasoning methinks.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 04:23 PM
It is desperation in the same way Barca signing Ousmane Dembele was

Anyway it's not likely to happen so need to worry about it

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:24 PM
Stinks of desperation. 100m euros FFS, at least players like Pogba and Lukaku had an established pedigree.

Pretty much, panic buying at it's finest, sell your star player and replace him with some unproven kid for 1 1/2 times the price. You couldn't make it up, once again wasting our resources on players who aren't worth a fraction of that (Xhaka and Mustafi last summer of course).

The club probably think will stop the backlash, it shouldn't though losing a guy who scores 25+ goals a season and replacing him with a kid is no conselation at all. Won't be far off from breakeven even after all this ironically.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:24 PM
I reckon it's BS, probably to make it look as if we tried (just like the Mbappe nonsense earlier in the summer) :violin:but if by some miracle it isn't then:

a) He's not a replacement for Alexis, he's relatively unproven, has 1 decent year behind him and doesn't seem to be a goalscorer, so we've gone back to where we were in that we're now short of a 2nd player who can get us goals when we need them
b) 92 million are we being serious? If we'd tried earlier in the window we'd have got him for a fraction of the cost, we must have a bunch of amateurs dealing with transfers

Either way it's been a disastrous window and this does nothing to resolve that, hopefully there will be a massive backlash after this.

Lemar is the sort of player we have needed for a long, long time. An all action, 100% energy, winner with great technique who can play effectively all across the middle. Fabulous player and a potential superstar. Which is why coming to Arsenal is the last fucking thing he needs in his life. Wenger will find the one way to ruin him. Even so, we'd get at least one good year out of him before he learned the Arsenal Way.

That said - a lot could still go wrong with the development of a 21 year old, Wenger aside. Injury, the weight of carrying such a big price tag, the jump from French footie to the PL. This is an incredible gamble if it is real. And we'll be guilty of the worst inflation in the market. We'll be the biggest financial dopers of them all.

LATEST: Lemar doesn't want to come here. He wants to go to Liverpool. You see what having a sane manager can do? See what the cost of Wenger's stock decline amounts to?

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:25 PM
Lemar is the sort of player we have needed for a long, long time. An all action, 100% energy, winner with great technique who can play effectively all across the middle. Fabulous player and a potential superstar. Which is why coming to Arsenal is the last fucking thing he needs in his life. Wenger will find the one way to ruin him. Even so, we'd get at least one good year out of him before he learned the Arsenal Way.

That said - a lot could still go wrong with the development of a 21 year old, Wenger aside. Injury, the weight of carrying such a big price tag, the jump from French footie to the PL. This is an incredible gamble if it is real. And we'll be guilty of the worst inflation in the market. We'll be the biggest financial dopers of them all.

LATEST: Lemar doesn't want to come here. He wants to go to Liverpool. You see what having a sane manager can do? See what the cost of Wenger's stock decline amounts to?


I'd agree he would be a good signing, but not as a replacement to our star player and a guy who gets 25 goals a season, as an addition to our squad great but as a replacement very underwhelming.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 04:26 PM
Deal for Lemar unlikely say SSN. :lol:

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:30 PM
I'd agree he would be a good signing, but not as a replacement to our star player and a guy who gets 25 goals a season, as an addition to our squad great but as a replacement very underwhelming.

Of course. Any sane manager would have added a Lemar to the Ozil, Alexis and (still talking about sane managers) Vidal and Draxler. And any sane manager could have extended Alexis' contract months ago by putting 300k on the table. And any sane manager could have signed Vidal for 32mill. And Any sane manager could have signed Draxler for 35 mill. And the same sane bloke could have got Lemar a couple of months ago for 50 mill. And all this was totally manageable because we could have sold the deadwood to fund half of this. Including Walcott and Giroud and Welbeck.

But that would have required a long term plan and a sane strategy that lacked panic and complete incompetence.

Now we are losing our best players, or at best hanging on to players who don't want to be here and won't be here next season. And we're being snubbed by 21 yr olds even though we've bid the earth.

You couldn't fuck this up any more thoroughly if you were deliberately trying to destroy the club.

Globalgunner
31-08-2017, 04:30 PM
No sane player would want to join us. We may have better luck with getting Draxler, possibly on loan. Also we should ask for Van Dijk, also on loan.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:32 PM
No sane player would want to join us. We may have better luck with getting Draxler, possibly on loan. Also we should ask for Van Dijk, also on loan.

Draxler already said no. That one is off the table and in the taxi home. The Van Djik thing was always just media speculation I think.

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:35 PM
Allegedly we withdrew our offer for Lemar :lol:

https://liverpooloffside.sbnation.com/liverpool-fc-transfer-news/2017/8/31/16233900/arsenal-withdraw-92m-thomas-lemar-bid-shock-monaco-liverpool-deadline-day

Globalgunner
31-08-2017, 04:38 PM
Wenger with no where to hide.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:39 PM
Allegedly we withdrew our offer for Lemar :lol:

https://liverpooloffside.sbnation.com/liverpool-fc-transfer-news/2017/8/31/16233900/arsenal-withdraw-92m-thomas-lemar-bid-shock-monaco-liverpool-deadline-day

No.

Just no.

They are purposely trying to make this club the world's biggest laughing stock.

People will talk about this insanity for years to come.

This is just crazy.

They have literally put this bid out there as a stunt to make it look like they were serious about spending money.

McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2017, 04:40 PM
How the fuck would they know?

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:40 PM
No.

Just no.

They are purposely trying to make this club the world's biggest laughing stock.

People will talk about this insanity for years to come.

This is just crazy.

They have literally put this bid out there as a stunt to make it look like they were serious about spending money.

I'm with you, absolute joke of a club.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:41 PM
All that remains if for them to reluctantly sell Alexis to the gypos for 70mill.

I mean fuck! What an amazing discovery our crack team of negotiators have made here. Who could have known it would be difficult to arrange a 92mill transfer, with a 60mill transfer going the other way, in 7 hours.

You learn something new every day.

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:41 PM
Wenger with no where to hide.

He'll probably create his own hiding place where everyone can see him but he insists they can't. He'll decide he can't be seen.

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:42 PM
All that remains if for them to reluctantly sell Alexis to the gypos for 70mill.

I mean fuck! What an amazing discovery our crack team of negotiators have made here. Who could have known it would be difficult to arrange a 92mill transfer, with a 60mill transfer going the other way, in 7 hours.

You learn something new every day.

Maybe they meant to make a bid of 9.2 million, would make more sense, they withdrew the 92 million bid when they realised it was made in error.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:43 PM
How the fuck would they know?

This is what I was asking. Where is all this info coming from. And yet, these last minute deals do take place. The info is coming from somewhere, albeit in confused whispers I'll bet.

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:44 PM
How the fuck would they know?

Sky have just said we've pulled out of the 92 million pound deal.

Özim
31-08-2017, 04:46 PM
There should be no hiding place for the club after this, alas I fear they'll get away with it scott-free as they always do.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 04:47 PM
http://topnews.in/sports/files/Salomon-Kalou.jpg

The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2017, 04:51 PM
Not sure if I trust Wenger with 92 million.

Lemar seems incredibly talented but it stinks clearly of short term desperation to quell the anger from likely losing Alexis.

But if it does go through just shows how incompetent the negotiation team are. We could have got him for ~55 million early in the summer back when Monaco hadn't sold all their stars and weren't as flushed with cash as they are now.

selassie
31-08-2017, 04:57 PM
He'll probably create his own hiding place where everyone can see him but he insists they can't. He'll decide he can't be seen.

:haha:

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 05:01 PM
One source has told Sky Sports News that Lemar is not interested in a switch to the Emirates and would prefer to move to Liverpool.

KSE Comedy Club
31-08-2017, 05:06 PM
More like wenger was at home with a glass of wine, getting ready to celebrate another stingy
Transfer window when he saw the news on SSN.

Quickly got on the phone to Monaco and told them 'no way are we spending any money!!'

And that was that.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2017, 05:10 PM
Not sure if I trust Wenger with 92 million.

Lemar seems incredibly talented but it stinks clearly of short term desperation to quell the anger from likely losing Alexis.

But if it does go through just shows how incompetent the negotiation team are. We could have got him for ~55 million early in the summer back when Monaco hadn't sold all their stars and weren't as flushed with cash as they are now.

It was a panic measure. We tried to sign Lemar earlier in the summer so that we could sell Alexis and have him as replacement

Fucked about with low ball bid, so trying it again now. I doubt Alexis will be sold.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:17 PM
It was a panic measure. We tried to sign Lemar earlier in the summer so that we could sell Alexis and have him as replacement

Fucked about with low ball bid, so trying it again now. I doubt Alexis will be sold.

I bet there's murder going on in the Arsenal boardroom now. Those who want to sell Alexis regardless vs... nobody at all.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 05:25 PM
92m bid accepted but we pulled out cos the player wanted Liverpool to up their bid.

Weird how we bid 30m back in June and then twice upped it before saying it's dead before making a 100 euros bid!

Hard to understand what's going on.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:26 PM
Loic Remy, remember that cash chaser who happily signed for the chav bench? Well he's off to Las Palmas.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:27 PM
92m bid accepted but we pulled out cos the player wanted Liverpool to up their bid.

Weird how we bid 30m back in June and then twice upped it before saying it's dead before making a 100 euros bid!

Hard to understand what's going on.

I think it's called blind fear and panic. Perhaps they have discovered that Arsenal has fans and those fans are marching around with machetes.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:33 PM
Why aren't we getting close up shots of Kirty's tits this year? FFS. Political correctness gone mad.

Gooner23
31-08-2017, 05:34 PM
Sounds like it's all off anyway, Alexis to stay.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:37 PM
Sounds like it's all off anyway, Alexis to stay.

I bet you he doesn't. You always have to think of the worst possible outcome with this club and then double down. That will get you in the general vicinity of how bad the final result turns out.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 05:39 PM
One source has told Sky Sports News that Lemar is not interested in a switch to the Emirates and would prefer to move to Liverpool.

For players of Lemar's generation, Wenger is dud of a manager. He wasn't even 10 when Wenger was last relevant at the top of the game.

Wenger can't use his reputation anymore to bring in the best talent.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:39 PM
We've missed out on Mbappe too :doh:

Foiled at the last minute. Loan deal to PSG confirmed. Announced the deal at 20:22 because they have a plan to win the CL by 2022, according to Sky. Definitely not financial doping.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:41 PM
For players of Lemar's generation, Wenger is dud of a manager. He wasn't even 10 when Wenger was last relevant at the top of the game.

Wenger can't use his reputation anymore to bring in the best talent.

True. But he's more than capable of driving our best talent away.

Özim
31-08-2017, 05:41 PM
We've missed out on Mbappe too :doh:

Foiled at the last minute. Loan deal to PSG confirmed. Announced the deal at 20:22 because they have a plan to win the CL by 2022, according to Sky. Definitely not financial doping.

:lol: Another Monaco player goes and yet the one we wanted didn't.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 05:42 PM
Is Stuart Pearce ill or is he just a humongous drug addict? He looks and sounds fucking awful.

The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2017, 05:44 PM
So yeah apparently the Alexis deal is off as we can't get a replacement in as Lemar doesn't want to join.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 05:55 PM
We've missed out on Mbappe too :doh:

Foiled at the last minute. Loan deal to PSG confirmed. Announced the deal at 20:22 because they have a plan to win the CL by 2022, according to Sky. Definitely not financial doping.

I really thought we had genuine shot at getting Mbappe.

Said no one ever.

dostoy
31-08-2017, 06:02 PM
I hope Alexis still leaves, he deserves better than another 9 months of this shit.

Only another 4 hours to hold out Wenger, this is going to be a triumph for him, one of his best ever achievements.

Get Ozil out as well and sign no-one.

hobson's choice
31-08-2017, 06:08 PM
So we made the Lemar bid to just block him from going to Liverpool

This club, smh

Penguin
31-08-2017, 06:09 PM
Nah that's too clever for our club. It's just a panic bid from Wenger because everyone wants to leave.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 06:13 PM
I think we bid 92 so that Liverpool have to up their 74 which they don't anyway and he won't go there.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 06:16 PM
Ornstein says city have ended their interest after we failed to find an agreement. The deal was in place as long as we found a replacement but Lamar rejected us (lol) so Alexis stays.

dostoy
31-08-2017, 06:19 PM
A terrible terrible season is the ONLY way to go, it might get that fucker out, nothing else will.

This club is in absolute turmoil and its all Wenger's fault.

I still want no-one signed and I'm confident that will happen because no-one will want to come to this shithole club.

Let Alexis go Wenger.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 06:21 PM
We are like Spurs of old these days, can't seem to attract decent talent. Turning down Arsenal (who were probably going to triple his wages) to stay at Monaco is a real slap in the face and it is a product of our terrible management.

selassie
31-08-2017, 06:31 PM
We are like Spurs of old these days, can't seem to attract decent talent. Turning down Arsenal (who were probably going to triple his wages) to stay at Monaco is a real slap in the face and it is a product of our terrible management.

Yep our rep is in tatters. Sad thing is we were seen as an attractive proposition after the Ozil, Sanchez & Cech signings but failed to build upon it. Our rep is damaged now, looks like players both domestically and in Europe prefer Liverpool above us. Wenger needs to just go now.

Penguin
31-08-2017, 06:32 PM
Perez has been loaned back to Deportivo for a season.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 06:34 PM
Nah that's too clever for our club. It's just a panic bid from Wenger because everyone wants to leave.

What it sounds like, if the reports are in any way true, is there's a massive battle going on inside the club. A 92 mill bid that's cancelled a few minutes later because we didn't have time to complete the deal? Come on. As if we couldn't have figured that out before making the bid.

mastermind84
31-08-2017, 06:42 PM
What it sounds like, if the reports are in any way true, is there's a massive battle going on inside the club. A 92 mill bid that's cancelled a few minutes later because we didn't have time to complete the deal? Come on. As if we couldn't have figured that out before making the bid.

Lenar didn't want to come.

I also think we did it to screw Liverpool over.

The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2017, 06:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIk7RCOXUAAE_jG.jpg

lol the passive aggressiveness from Rambo. You can tell that he's not happy.

Gooner23
31-08-2017, 06:49 PM
#shambles

Ramsey is one of Wenger's pets as well.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 06:51 PM
#shambles

Ramsey is one of Wenger's pets as well.

Shambles was Ox's nickname, given by Merts, because he kept arriving late. But Ramsey's a smart guy, he must have guessed that a in-club joke would be interpreted as it initially was. Is this the first shot in his 2017/18 exit strategy?

selassie
31-08-2017, 06:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIk7RCOXUAAE_jG.jpg

lol the passive aggressiveness from Rambo. You can tell that he's not happy.

:lol: that's what I thought. Ramsey has left than 2 years left on his contract so he'll be the next Brit to move to one of our rivals.

The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2017, 06:52 PM
#shambles

Ramsey is one of Wenger's pets as well.

http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

Letters
31-08-2017, 06:52 PM
People are now coming to the realisation that Wenger does almost nothing right.

Serious question.
You think we have a bad squad (you said that after the Liverpool debacle)
Your thoughts about Wenger are pretty clear.
And yet last year despite all our wobbles last year we still finished 5th and won the Cup.
This whole summer has been a mess and a lot is wrong at the club but I wonder how you figure that EVERYTHING is wrong and the end result isn't a relegation battle.

hobson's choice
31-08-2017, 06:52 PM
#shambles

Ramsey is one of Wenger's pets as well.



That bozo is our first choice CM for the rest of the season.

Just hope he picks up his usual 2-3 month injury soon. So we can at least have a nice decent run, till he comes back.

I hate this club

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 06:53 PM
Lenar didn't want to come.

I also think we did it to screw Liverpool over.

Why did we need to screw Liverpool. The word coming from there is they never had interest in Lemar and all the noise was coming from Lemar's agent. That could be a cover too I suppose, but whatever the truth, the whole thing is bizarre and embarrassing.

hobson's choice
31-08-2017, 06:53 PM
:lol: that's what I thought. Ramsey has left than 2 years left on his contract so he'll be the next Brit to move to one of our rivals.

Oh God I hope so

Munchies
31-08-2017, 06:55 PM
Wonder if anyone will want Ozil next summer :haha:

Useless cunt

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 06:55 PM
Serious question.
You think we have a bad squad (you said that after the Liverpool debacle)
Your thoughts about Wenger are pretty clear.
And yet last year despite all our wobbles last year we still finished 5th and won the Cup.
This whole summer has been a mess and a lot is wrong at the club but I wonder how you figure that EVERYTHING is wrong and the end result isn't a relegation battle.

Weren't you busy trying to find ONE manager that has screwed up more than Wenger? Or did Tom Cruise turn you down?

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 06:56 PM
http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

Perfectly sums it up.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 06:58 PM
Wonder if anyone will want Ozil next summer :haha:

Useless cunt

Plenty. He's just patiently waiting to leave and maximise his final contract. One bonus, he might decide to do a turn in the shop window towards the end of the season. Mind you, Wenger will probably bench him if that happens.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 06:59 PM
That bozo is our first choice CM for the rest of the season.

Just hope he picks up his usual 2-3 month injury soon. So we can at least have a nice decent run, till he comes back.

I hate this club

Seri literally issued a come and get me plea yesterday. Price, 23 million. Wenger doesn't fancy him. Not enough top top top qualiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Globalgunner
31-08-2017, 07:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

Ideal situation

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:00 PM
Ideal situation

His phone is red hot.

mastermind84
31-08-2017, 07:02 PM
Why did we need to screw Liverpool. The word coming from there is they never had interest in Lemar and all the noise was coming from Lemar's agent. That could be a cover too I suppose, but whatever the truth, the whole thing is bizarre and embarrassing.

fam, there is no excuse. This window has been a disaster.

Munchies
31-08-2017, 07:03 PM
His phone is red hot.

Saw that quote earlier today and laughed my ass off!

Özim
31-08-2017, 07:04 PM
Serious question.
You think we have a bad squad (you said that after the Liverpool debacle)
Your thoughts about Wenger are pretty clear.
And yet last year despite all our wobbles last year we still finished 5th and won the Cup.
This whole summer has been a mess and a lot is wrong at the club but I wonder how you figure that EVERYTHING is wrong and the end result isn't a relegation battle.

Yes I think our squad is bang average bar a few players, defence is rubbish, midfield is lacking in areas, up front happier now we have Lacazette, no captains or leaders on top of that.

5th is nowhere, we were absolutely dreadful and the cup is no consolation for me, it's 2nd tier and not what we want after 13 years.

We're a big club, for a big club like us to get relegated takes an absolute disaster to be honest as the PL is quite frankly average quality wise, we have a few players like Alexis and a handful of others that keep us further up the table than our play deserves in all honesty. 5th place for a club is failure in every sense considering the resources at our fingertips as is 13 years without genuinely competing which is ultimately what all fans of big clubs want, I don't expect to win every season but expect us to compete so that we have a chance.

I think Arsene Wenger is a walking disaster to be honest and have done for a long time, anyone who does what he has done turning a hugely successful team into a failure whilst changing all the successful aspects has got to be clueless in my book, why else would you get rid of pace, power, leadership, discipline and instead change the style of play to boring 5 yard passing football, bring in powederpuff weak players who can't mix it or tackle, settle for 2nd rate players who can't deliver at the top level and not put together a quality spine of the team you can rely on when things get tough?

hobson's choice
31-08-2017, 07:05 PM
Seri literally issued a come and get me plea yesterday. Price, 23 million. Wenger doesn't fancy him. Not enough top top top qualiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

The only thing I wanted in this transfer outside of a striker was a credible CM, that is our obvious obvious obvious need.

And once again we ignore it.

Oh well at least we can look forward to Lacazette and Giroud being on the bench whilst Welbeck starts.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 07:10 PM
Lets just hope Alexis continues to work his bollocks us off from now until he leaves. If he checks out, we're in serious trouble.

Alexis and Ozil, our 2 best players set to leave for free next summer. An ideal situation some would call it.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:11 PM
Dangerous last 3 hours. Because if we can find some godawful piece of shit and spin him up as a replacement for Alexis then, I must tell you, we will do it.

Mixed feelings about Alexis staying now. He must be gutted but I think he'll put 100% into the season because that's the sort of player he is. I wonder though, will he still want to play through the injuries?

And I really don't think Alexis can make much difference to the absolute mess we have going on. It won't hurt, but even with him firing on all cylinders we could only grab 5th last year.

In some ways we'd have been better off letting him go, NOT signing anyone, keeping the cash and fucking Wenger out the door by Christmas. But that's wishful thinking and there would be no guarantees the club would spend the cash anyway.

Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2017, 07:14 PM
Glad the Lemar thing has died a death. I have mixed feelings about Alexis though. I expect he will go all out for the Club, but for some reason his passion and work ethic seems to be making him a pariah at our Club.

If he stays all that will happen is he will have had another year at the top of his form wasted.

McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2017, 07:14 PM
Sky have just said we've pulled out of the 92 million pound deal.

Now they aren't.

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 07:22 PM
According to ornstein, Alexis thought it was all done and dusted and had informed his friends and family!!

He must be seething right now! Wonder if he will find the will to turn up to training and see that old fart!

hobson's choice
31-08-2017, 07:25 PM
Just sell the man

The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2017, 07:25 PM
According to ornstein, Alexis thought it was all done and dusted and had informed his friends and family!!

He must be seething right now! Wonder if he will find the will to turn up to training and see that old fart!

Between his reaction to this, Ramsey's instagram post above, Ozil's general shithouse attitude and Mustafi basically being told by Wenger that he doesn't rate him, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the next entire squad meet up with Wenger.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:27 PM
According to ornstein, Alexis thought it was all done and dusted and had informed his friends and family!!

He must be seething right now! Wonder if he will find the will to turn up to training and see that old fart!

I think he will because he still needs a big final contract from a top team next season. It would hurt him to back off now.

selassie
31-08-2017, 07:27 PM
Between his reaction to this, Ramsey's instagram post above, Ozil's general shithouse attitude and Mustafi basically being told by Wenger that he doesn't rate him, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the next entire squad meet up with Wenger.

Wenger will tell the press this is the best squad he has ever worked with and zee spirit and mentality is fantastic.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:28 PM
Between his reaction to this, Ramsey's instagram post above, Ozil's general shithouse attitude and Mustafi basically being told by Wenger that he doesn't rate him, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the next entire squad meet up with Wenger.

We also have Chambers who was going then staying. And it looks like we'll be needing him too this season.

Özim
31-08-2017, 07:29 PM
Great window, made a profit, cut our salary bill, perfect really.

We now have a few players who don't really want to be at the club as well, this after getting thrashed by Liverpool, look forward to next summer when we lose our two top players and fail to replace them cos we have no money.

In Wenger we trust!

Özim
31-08-2017, 07:31 PM
I think he will because he still needs a big final contract from a top team next season. It would hurt him to back off now.

I think he'll lack motivation, his body language showed he wasn't happy here. He's got the World cup so won't want to get injured for that and in Jan he can talk to other clubs who know of his qualities already. Don't think he'll be the same player personally and think it will affect squad harmony knowing we have players who don't want to be here.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:32 PM
There's another consideration too. If Wenger can't pull this around (which he can't) and the team performs like a joke again this season (which it will), once Alexis walks out, followed by Ozil and (presumably, to avoid making the same mistake again) Ramsey, who will want to come here to replace them, even if we are prepared to spend the money? If it's bad now, think how bad it's going to be next season.

A board with a ball between them would sack Wenger right now. It's the only way out of this. Too late, but for every day it goes on our situation gets worse. Do they really, genuinely thing this bloke can compete? Assuming they give a shit about competing at all - which they don't so I guess ignore this post.

mastermind84
31-08-2017, 07:33 PM
Glad the Lemar thing has died a death. I have mixed feelings about Alexis though. I expect he will go all out for the Club, but for some reason his passion and work ethic seems to be making him a pariah at our Club.

If he stays all that will happen is he will have had another year at the top of his form wasted.

he doesnt work as hard as it shows on TV.

He had similar issues with his teammates at Barcelona too. Its just him.

rodders
31-08-2017, 07:34 PM
A right ruddy hames

selassie
31-08-2017, 07:39 PM
There's another consideration too. If Wenger can't pull this around (which he can't) and the team performs like a joke again this season (which it will), once Alexis walks out, followed by Ozil and (presumably, to avoid making the same mistake again) Ramsey, who will want to come here to replace them, even if we are prepared to spend the money? If it's bad now, think how bad it's going to be next season.

A board with a ball between them would sack Wenger right now. It's the only way out of this. Too late, but for every day it goes on our situation gets worse. Do they really, genuinely thing this bloke can compete? Assuming they give a shit about competing at all - which they don't so I guess ignore this post.

Yep, if we think this summer is bad it's going to be nothing compared to next summer. It will be a bloodbath once Ozil and Sanchez have walked out and joined our rivals for free. We still have a lot of dross to shift too.

Marc Overmars
31-08-2017, 07:41 PM
Yep, if we think this summer is bad it's going to be nothing compared to next summer. It will be a bloodbath once Ozil and Sanchez have walked out and joined our rivals for free. We still have a lot of dross to shift too.

Let's not forget next season is the last one for Wenger's contract again. So all that shit about his future will start up once more. And it definitely won't affect the team like it didn't last season.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:43 PM
Let's not forget next season is the last one for Wenger's contract again. So all that shit about his future will start up once more. And it definitely won't affect the team like it didn't last season.

Unless they just shamelessly give him an extension and claim it's to avoid uncertainty. You got to watch these fuckers, they are sneaky. Devious.

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pt9BGTDxxg

Niall_Quinn
31-08-2017, 07:45 PM
It's not deadline day, it's Thursday :haha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6cIMlKtfE0

McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2017, 07:52 PM
Jim White getting ready.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtxb_knhkEA

AFC Leveller
31-08-2017, 07:58 PM
Arsenal: 92m take it or leave it

Monaco: okay, we'll take it

Arsenal: what?

Monaco: what?

Arsenal: what?