Summer Transfer Misery 2017/18

[Ralpheroo72]

G'day Alexandre!

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Sanchez wants 400k a week. No one is worth that much a week.

[Globalgunner]

Sanchez wants 400k a month. No one is worth that much a week.

Dont believe everything you hear. The same report in the BBC claimed it an increase of 125k on what he currently earns which would put him on 275k.

Bullshit put out by the club most like, Seeing as he still wont commit.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sanchez wants 400k a week. No one is worth that much a week.

That was Metro, wasn't it? If it's in Metro it's automatically fake. That rag takes Daily Star stories and sexes them up.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton have accepted £75 million bid from Man Utd for Lukaku say SSN.

:wacko:

[GP]

lmao I think you made a typo there you said £75m

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Everton have accepted £75 million bid from Man Utd for Lukaku say SSN.

:wacko:

Makes what we paid for Lacazette quite a bargain

[Marc Overmars]

Makes what we paid for Lacazette quite a bargain

Lukaku comes with a guarantee of PL goals, that's bound to have a huge premium attached.

Outrageous transfer fee though, can't believe how much disposable cash is sloshing around this league.

[Letters]

Lukaku comes with a guarantee of PL goals, that's bound to have a huge premium attached.

Outrageous transfer fee though, can't believe how much disposable cash is sloshing around this league.

It's sort of like the housing market. You keep thinking "it can't go on like this", and yet it does.
Mental.

I blame Jimmy Hill. #maximumwage

[GP]

Utd have become a bit shameless with their spending.
They always spent a decent amount but they've gone mental.

Fergie will be spinning in his grave.

[Marc Overmars]

They were already the richest club in the world and now the TV deal has pushed them beyond the stratosphere.

[Niall_Quinn]

Everton have accepted £75 million bid from Man Utd for Lukaku say SSN.

:wacko:


90mill for Pogba, now 75mill for his club footed brother. Mad world.

[selassie]

Lukaku comes with a guarantee of PL goals, that's bound to have a huge premium attached.

Outrageous transfer fee though, can't believe how much disposable cash is sloshing around this league.

Aye, he's basically a direct replacement for Zlatan who to be fair did very well for them last season.

Lukaku will bag them 25+ goals a season. I think they definitely need more additions to challenge though, something still not quite right with their team IMO.

[Letters]

:lol:

http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/arsenals-bank-account-suspended-after-suspicious-payment/

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Magic Money Tree. :bow:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

90mill for Pogba, now 75mill for his club footed brother. Mad world.

You're still the biggest Pogba fan I've ever known!

[GP]

Pogba is just a dabbing Djemba-Djemba

[Niall_Quinn]

You're still the biggest Pogba fan I've ever known!

Even if you don't get out much, what's that got to do with anything? Maureen's game means they could have paid 90 quid for Lee Cattermole and coaxed Emile Heskey out of retirement and they'd get the same result.

[GP]

We have a new goalkeeping coach apparently.

https://twitter.com/DarrenArsenal1/status/883065718379606018

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bibbo Baggins. :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Leicester reportedly value Mahrez at 50m. :lol:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Leicester reportedly value Mahrez at 50m. :lol:

That's the kind of money you have to spend to buy a premier league player.

Pickford cost Everton 30million

[Penguin]

Everton have accepted £75 million bid from Man Utd for Lukaku say SSN.

:wacko:
Unbelievable :lol:


Aye, he's basically a direct replacement for Zlatan who to be fair did very well for them last season.

Lukaku will bag them 25+ goals a season. I think they definitely need more additions to challenge though, something still not quite right with their team IMO.

He'll definitely score goals, but he's the type of player who will wont chase the ball or battle with a defender if he doesn't feel like it. Mourinho might try to beat that out of him so we'll see.

£75m is crazy but I guess that's the market these days.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's the kind of money you have to spendwaste to buy a premier league player.

Pickford cost Everton 30million

:gp:

At 50 mill they need to find a bridge they can jump from. Monaco would probably talk for 50 mill and Leicester probably figured that out. Not sure why they want to keep Mahrez. He's not worth a penny if he doesn't fancy the task.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

:gp:

At 50 mill they need to find a bridge they can jump from. Monaco would probably talk for 50 mill and Leicester probably figured that out. Not sure why they want to keep Mahrez. He's not worth a penny if he doesn't fancy the task.

I approve of your correction

[fakeyank]

Everton now want 90m for Lukaku :lol:

At even the current market rate, I dont think he is worth a penny more than 40-45m quid.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal have returned with a £40million bid for Monaco star Thomas Lemar after seeing their initial £30m approach rejected.

Monaco have previously stated their refusal to sell the talented 21-year-old midfielder at any price this summer but the Gunners are testing that resolve.

The Frenchman is known to have a strong friendship with new Arsenal signing and compatriot Alexandre Lacazette.

They said he wasn't for sale at any price. Unless that price was 80 million.

So how can bidding half of what they demand be a worthwhile move?

We're just wasting time. Pay them 50 mill and then pay Alexis 300k per week and we're done. Why are we fucking around on 275k per week? What's the difference? It's all funny money.

Sign Lemar, secure Alexis. If we do that then I'll hold my hands up and say great transfer window.

However, anything other that that, not signing Alexis one way or the other, and not adding more quality to the squad on top, represents a total and comprehensive failure. There's no middle ground here at all. Not after all the years of fucking around.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Most interesting thing I've heard about Lemar is the comparison with Santi Cazorla a French journalist apparently made. If he had that kind of ability and skill set I'd say we should have made 50 million the initial offer.

[Niall_Quinn]

Most interesting thing I've heard about Lemar is the comparison with Santi Cazorla a French journalist apparently made. If he had that kind of ability and skill set I'd say we should have made 50 million the initial offer.

Odd comparison. Few as technical as Santi. Lemar is not two footed, he's bigger, faster and more powerful. More Bale than Santi IMO. Apparently he's agreed personal terms with us now, but the 40 mill bid has already been rejected. Journos reporting that Monaco think they'll get the 80 mill next season so they are desperate to hold onto him. We'll have to break the transfer record again I think and I can't see that happening. Then again, football is so crazy now and heading fast in an even crazier direction, maybe 50, 60 mill will be a bargain by comparison to next summer's prices. 50 mill for Mbappe last season might have been seen as madness at the time, maybe not one year on though.

Mahrez for 50 mill after his antics last season? No thanks.

[mastermind84]

We're just wasting time. Pay them 50 mill and then pay Alexis 300k per week and we're done. Why are we fucking around on 275k per week? What's the difference? It's all funny money.
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Alexis wants 400k a week, so it's a decent sized difference if the media reports are true.

[Marc Overmars]

United confirm Lukaku agreement. 75m+15m add ons. :lol:

Wazza going the other way.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Odd comparison. Few as technical as Santi. Lemar is not two footed, he's bigger, faster and more powerful. More Bale than Santi IMO. Apparently he's agreed personal terms with us now, but the 40 mill bid has already been rejected. Journos reporting that Monaco think they'll get the 80 mill next season so they are desperate to hold onto him. We'll have to break the transfer record again I think and I can't see that happening. Then again, football is so crazy now and heading fast in an even crazier direction, maybe 50, 60 mill will be a bargain by comparison to next summer's prices. 50 mill for Mbappe last season might have been seen as madness at the time, maybe not one year on though.

Mahrez for 50 mill after his antics last season? No thanks.

I was surprised to hear the comparison but I've no real view as I don't remember Lemar on the few ocassions I watched Monaco. I guess the journo was alluding to what he is AND what he could be.... a central player, lots of little touches, eye for a pass quick short interchanges..... rather than whatever role he performs now.

I'm surprised nobody has speculated too much here that our business is now over....as it's normally what we'd be saying by now.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

United confirm Lukaku agreement. 75m+15m add ons. :lol:

Wazza going the other way.

More importantly he's going to united rather than Chelsea because they are happy to stump up the agents fees

Lukaku has same agent as Ibrahimovic, Mkhytarian and Pogba

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis wants 400k a week, so it's a decent sized difference if the media reports are true.

The 400k is bullshit one way or another. Either it's made up media shite, or it's Alexis saying he's not staying under any terms. But nobody outside China will be paying him 400k.

[Niall_Quinn]

I was surprised to hear the comparison but I've no real view as I don't remember Lemar on the few ocassions I watched Monaco. I guess the journo was alluding to what he is AND what he could be.... a central player, lots of little touches, eye for a pass quick short interchanges..... rather than whatever role he performs now.

I'm surprised nobody has speculated too much here that our business is now over....as it's normally what we'd be saying by now.

All depends on Alexis. Our business probably is over if he can be persuaded to stay. But if he's going then we are only just getting started in this window. I assume. Because you never know with this club.

[selassie]

They said he wasn't for sale at any price. Unless that price was 80 million.

So how can bidding half of what they demand be a worthwhile move?

We're just wasting time. Pay them 50 mill and then pay Alexis 300k per week and we're done. Why are we fucking around on 275k per week? What's the difference? It's all funny money.

Sign Lemar, secure Alexis. If we do that then I'll hold my hands up and say great transfer window.

However, anything other that that, not signing Alexis one way or the other, and not adding more quality to the squad on top, represents a total and comprehensive failure. There's no middle ground here at all. Not after all the years of fucking around.

I think Monaco were posturing re: Lemar 80mill price in a similar way to what we are doing to Alexis with City. From what I understand Lemar wants to join us and work under Wenger. We are currently in negotiations with Monaco and I believe we will eventually sign him, I reckon it will be around 50mill + add-ons.

We won't secure Alexis because he doesn't want to play for us anymore, he wants to go and work for Guardiola at City. If we offered him 400k per week he would want 500k per week, Alexis doesn't want to be here.

I personally think the Alexis situation will pan out similarly to the Lemar situation, we will eventually cave in and sell Alexis to City, I think we'll get at least 50mill for him but that won't cushion the blow as we will be a weaker team without him and City will be a stronger team with him.

[Niall_Quinn]

If we sell Alexis to the gypos, this club is finished in terms of football and competitiveness. Alexis still has a year left on his contract, so we can keep him here and pay him the 140k he's currently on. And that's exactly what we must do without any consideration of a meaningless transfer fee or the fact he walks next season. We've easily, easily got our money's worth with Alexis so we won't be losing anything at all if he leaves on a free. But if we sell him to one of our major rivals we lose everything, especially in light of what we saw when we allowed RvC to go to Utd. If we make that mistake again then everybody in a decision making role at the club must be hounded and pilloried mercilessly and until such a time as they fuck right off and get jobs in banks or insurance firms.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

You seem pretty sure we'll sign Lemar Sellasie..... was our bid before official then?

[selassie]

If we sell Alexis to the gypos, this club is finished in terms of football and competitiveness. Alexis still has a year left on his contract, so we can keep him here and pay him the 140k he's currently on. And that's exactly what we must do without any consideration of a meaningless transfer fee or the fact he walks next season. We've easily, easily got our money's worth with Alexis so we won't be losing anything at all if he leaves on a free. But if we sell him to one of our major rivals we lose everything, especially in light of what we saw when we allowed RvC to go to Utd. If we make that mistake again then everybody in a decision making role at the club must be hounded and pilloried mercilessly and until such a time as they fuck right off and get jobs in banks or insurance firms.

I agree NQ and I hope I'm being dramatic in my assessment that Alexis will be sold to City, I've just got this horrible feeling it's going to happen though. ��

[selassie]

You seem pretty sure we'll sign Lemar Sellasie..... was our bid before official then?

Our first bid of 30million was official and according to Lequipe and RMC in France we have gone back with a second bid of 40million. I can't claim to have any insider knowledge but from what I have read from more reputable sources, Lemar is keen to join and Monaco will sell. The stories of Monaco wanting 80million are only being published in the UK press, Monaco just want a decent fee, I reckon 50Million + add-ons will be enough, they got 42Million + add-ons for Silva to City, they can't expect much more for Lemar IMO.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The 400k is bullshit one way or another. Either it's made up media shite, or it's Alexis saying he's not staying under any terms. But nobody outside China will be paying him 400k.

It came from John Cross. :lol:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If we signed Lemar....I wonder what that says to Iwobi and Chamberlain given their age.

As much as it may have been pie in the sky....kinda disappointed we won't sign Mbappe.

[Marc Overmars]

Leicester close to signing Iheanacho. Not a bad move for 20m tbh.

[Power n Glory]

That seems like a good buy. Whenever I've seen him play he's been sharp. He needs regular football.

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently the Ox is very unlikely to sign a new deal. Bad news if his form from last season is anything to go by.

[Özim]

The contract situation is very odd, 3 important players with 1 year left and none of them signed up, pretty shoddy by us don't know we got ourselves in this situation, we seem to have no problem signing up the rubbish players for longer even though they have plenty of time left on their contracts but agruably our 3 most important players we allow to run down their contracts.

I'm not sure what's going on, do we need to gt rid of players in order to be able to re-sign them up but are unable to as noone wants people like Gibbs, Jenkinson etc.

This club is run terribly.

[selassie]

Apparently the Ox is very unlikely to sign a new deal. Bad news if his form from last season is anything to go by.

Aidy Ward is Ox's agent, same agent as Raheem Sterling. Aidy Ward is a grade A c*nt, he has been whoring Ox out for the best part of this summer, he is desperate to get him a deal elsewhere and get a huge slice of the pie. If Ox wants to go let him go, he has only really consistently produced over a small period last season, let's face it he wasn't actually that great, he was just better than the shite everyone else was dishing up with the exception of one or two.

Screw Ox, let him play "jack of all trades" elsewhere.

[selassie]

That seems like a good buy. Whenever I've seen him play he's been sharp. He needs regular football.

Very good buy, I think Kelechi has a lot of upside. I wouldn't be surprised if he moves back to a top 4 club in a few seasons time, I think he will do very well at Leicester.

[Niall_Quinn]

Aidy Ward is Ox's agent, same agent as Raheem Sterling. Aidy Ward is a grade A c*nt, he has been whoring Ox out for the best part of this summer, he is desperate to get him a deal elsewhere and get a huge slice of the pie. If Ox wants to go let him go, he has only really consistently produced over a small period last season, let's face it he wasn't actually that great, he was just better than the shite everyone else was dishing up with the exception of one or two.

Screw Ox, let him play "jack of all trades" elsewhere.

Yep, that Ward cunt is a cancer. The lowest of the low in the agent scum rankings, and that takes some doing.

Thing is, I reckon Ox is about as good as most of these 50, 60 mill "superstars" that are filling up agents' pockets with their ship jumping. When it all comes down to it, there is a handful of genuine talent out there and then all these other hype merchants who are commanding big fees. On a practical level, we'll get no more out of hype merchants than an Ox or Ramsey or even Wilshere can already give us. We've already seen that with our 30 mill signings. And up north, that 55 mill Sterling bloke is a joke.

So in this silly market it'll cost us 50 mill to replace Ox. Might as well hang on to him. He's a decent player. Not a world beater, but better than some of the shite that is being hawked around for mega fees.

[selassie]

Yep, that Ward cunt is a cancer. The lowest of the low in the agent scum rankings, and that takes some doing.

Thing is, I reckon Ox is about as good as most of these 50, 60 mill "superstars" that are filling up agents' pockets with their ship jumping. When it all comes down to it, there is a handful of genuine talent out there and then all these other hype merchants who are commanding big fees. On a practical level, we'll get no more out of hype merchants than an Ox or Ramsey or even Wilshere can already give us. We've already seen that with our 30 mill signings. And up north, that 55 mill Sterling bloke is a joke.

So in this silly market it'll cost us 50 mill to replace Ox. Might as well hang on to him. He's a decent player. Not a world beater, but better than some of the shite that is being hawked around for mega fees.

Aye, my preference would be to keep Ox, but if he is playing games then get rid. We technically have a couple of players already at the club who could replace him immediately, Alex Iwobi for example could do IMO.

[Power n Glory]

Yep, that Ward cunt is a cancer. The lowest of the low in the agent scum rankings, and that takes some doing.

Thing is, I reckon Ox is about as good as most of these 50, 60 mill "superstars" that are filling up agents' pockets with their ship jumping. When it all comes down to it, there is a handful of genuine talent out there and then all these other hype merchants who are commanding big fees. On a practical level, we'll get no more out of hype merchants than an Ox or Ramsey or even Wilshere can already give us. We've already seen that with our 30 mill signings. And up north, that 55 mill Sterling bloke is a joke.

So in this silly market it'll cost us 50 mill to replace Ox. Might as well hang on to him. He's a decent player. Not a world beater, but better than some of the shite that is being hawked around for mega fees.

I like Ox but have to disagree with that. We’re talking about a player that still hasn’t scored more than 10 goals in a season. In just the Prem alone with 129 appearances, he still hasn’t scored 10 goals. 9 goals in total with 18 assist in total. He turns 24 next month. Sterling is still 22 and last season alone he registered 10 goals and 21 assist in all comps.

Since joining Arsenal, Ox has only scored a few goals and assists here and there. He should leave Arsenal this summer or next if he has any common sense. He doesn’t want to end up like Theo. But saying that, Theo doesn’t have the natural ability of the Ox but was producing a lot more for us in terms of end product at the Ox’s age. 13 goals and 9 assists in 2010/11 for Theo.

It's a worry considering what the Ox should be capable of. Whoever is around him would be foolish to advise he signs up for another contract with Arsenal. He came to us off a season where he scored 10 goals with 9 assists for Southampton. It was league 1 but he’s taken a serious step back in terms of progress with us. He can’t have the right people around him if they're not questioning his progress here. He doesn't want to end up in limbo and try to develop as a wingback so late on in his career and then turn around years later and say he's a natural CM. The manager has no idea what he's doing with him.

[Power n Glory]

Aye, my preference would be to keep Ox, but if he is playing games then get rid. We technically have a couple of players already at the club who could replace him immediately, Alex Iwobi for example could do IMO.

I like Ox too but I think he should leave. It's time he plays as a CM. I like Iwobi too but if we're sticking to 3 at the back, I really don't know where he fits into the picture. He's not a wingback or a CM. Would have to play a similar role to what we've seen from Ozil and Sanchez in that system.

[Niall_Quinn]

I like Ox but have to disagree with that. We’re talking about a player that still hasn’t scored more than 10 goals in a season. In just the Prem alone with 129 appearances, he still hasn’t scored 10 goals. 9 goals in total with 18 assist in total. He turns 24 next month. Sterling is still 22 and last season alone he registered 10 goals and 21 assist in all comps.

Since joining Arsenal, Ox has only scored a few goals and assists here and there. He should leave Arsenal this summer or next if he has any common sense. He doesn’t want to end up like Theo. But saying that, Theo doesn’t have the natural ability of the Ox but was producing a lot more for us in terms of end product at the Ox’s age. 13 goals and 9 assists in 2010/11 for Theo.

It's a worry considering what the Ox should be capable of. Whoever is around him would be foolish to advise he signs up for another contract with Arsenal. He came to us off a season where he scored 10 goals with 9 assists for Southampton. It was league 1 but he’s taken a serious step back in terms of progress with us. He can’t have the right people around him if they're not questioning his progress here. He doesn't want to end up in limbo and try to develop as a wingback so late on in his career and then turn around years later and say he's a natural CM. The manager has no idea what he's doing with him.

On the basis of the manager, in fairness, all our players should leave if they want to realise their full potential.

[Niall_Quinn]

I like Ox too but I think he should leave. It's time he plays as a CM. I like Iwobi too but if we're sticking to 3 at the back, I really don't know where he fits into the picture. He's not a wingback or a CM. Would have to play a similar role to what we've seen from Ozil and Sanchez in that system.

Everyone gets a chance at Arsenal. That's what the world class injury list is there for.

[Power n Glory]

On the basis of the manager, in fairness, all our players should leave if they want to realise their full potential.

True for most of the young players.

But on another note, if Ox is worth £50m+ would it be fair to put him on a £140k+ contract?

[Dein-machine]

Ospina, Debauchy, Gabriel, Merts, Gibbs, Welbeck, Chambers, Coq, Wiltshire, Walcott & Giroud.
A complete 4-5-1 team of pure cack that Wumger has amazingly been able to buy or keep at the club.
If he's worried about 50-60 million for Lamar, sell this lot to Hartlepool - it'll be their best team in years.

[Master Splinter]

Mertesacker not good enough for Hartlepool IMO. He's slow and would get outpaced by the pacy players who always outpace him every week.

[GP]

Mertesacker was on his way to the bottle back and he still is because he's so slow.

[Özim]

Mertesacker not good enough for Hartlepool IMO. He's slow and would get outpaced by the pacy players who always outpace him every week.

Thanks for coming :getcoat:

[Power n Glory]

Ospina, Debauchy, Gabriel, Merts, Gibbs, Welbeck, Chambers, Coq, Wiltshire, Walcott & Giroud.
A complete 4-5-1 team of pure cack that Wumger has amazingly been able to buy or keep at the club.
If he's worried about 50-60 million for Lamar, sell this lot to Hartlepool - it'll be their best team in years.

Sell them to Hartlepool to raise money for Lemar? :lol:

OK I'm not arguing with someone who think's Hartlepool have that sort of money.

[Marc Overmars]

Chavs sign Bakayoko from Monaco for 40m.

[Dein-machine]

Sell them to Hartlepool to raise money for Lemar? :lol:

OK I'm not arguing with someone who think's Hartlepool have that sort of money.

And I'm not arguing with someone who thought I was serious.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Mbappe had a 3 hour meeting with us at the end of last month, according to The Sun Dream Team news :coffee:

[Power n Glory]

And I'm not arguing with someone who thought I was serious.

Of course not. You’re a joke. Hence the….:lol:

:good: Keep the jokes rolling in.

[Dein-machine]

Of course not. You’re a joke. Hence the….:lol:

:good: Keep the jokes rolling in.

can't now - you've completely done me with your Merts love-fest - its hilarious & I simply cannot compete.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

£50m for Kyle Walker.

:wacko:

[Niall_Quinn]

£50m for Kyle Walker.

:wacko:

Exactly what I was saying yesterday. This is just funny money. Think of a number. Double it. If we lose a talented player like Ox, even though he has not realised his full potential under Wenger, we might as well set aside 50 or 60 mill to find the same level of talent as a replacement. Doesn't mean Ox is worth that. It just means this market is crazy.

Smart managers are going to start digging deep into the lower leagues to spot talent early. We picked up Holding for 2 mill. That's theft by today's standards and everything I have seen from the player so far, mistakes and all, tell me he's every bit as good as Kyle Walker. Walker is another hype merchant. Not a bad player, but nothing special at all.

[Letters]

£50m for Kyle Walker.

:wacko:

It's just ridiculous monopoly money these days.

[AFC Leveller]

If walker is worth 50 m and lukaku 90m, then Anything less than 10 for Sanchez would be a rip off.

[Power n Glory]

Exactly what I was saying yesterday. This is just funny money. Think of a number. Double it. If we lose a talented player like Ox, even though he has not realised his full potential under Wenger, we might as well set aside 50 or 60 mill to find the same level of talent as a replacement. Doesn't mean Ox is worth that. It just means this market is crazy.

Smart managers are going to start digging deep into the lower leagues to spot talent early. We picked up Holding for 2 mill. That's theft by today's standards and everything I have seen from the player so far, mistakes and all, tell me he's every bit as good as Kyle Walker. Walker is another hype merchant. Not a bad player, but nothing special at all.

Why have they sold him to Man City? Where is the progress in that? Oh well. Good news for us.

The fees being paid out have nothing to do with the quality of player these days. It’s becoming increasingly difficult for smaller clubs to actually build a winning side. You’d be foolish to set a reasonable price for a player you don’t want to sell. Why heck would you set a fair price? Clubs can’t rely on the player to show loyalty when the bigger clubs start to circle. Best way to ward off potential suitors is to set a price so ridiculous you’d be more than happy to sell if anyone coughs up the money.

The price doesn’t match player quality. Too many of us link this stuff back to normal life, like when selling a used car. You set fair price when you want to sell the damn thing. In football, most clubs don’t want to sell and that’s why prices have gone crazy. We’ve now got plenty of clubs prepared to pay up the money.

[selassie]

£50m for Kyle Walker.

:wacko:

I hate saying this but I actually respect Levy. He's such a shrewd business man. 50m for Walker is absolutely ridiculous and what makes it worse they buy a lot of their players on the cheap too.

[Marc Overmars]

I think Trippier is just as good Walker, so that's a brilliant piece of business as far as Spurs are concerned. 50m for Walker FFS.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why have they sold him to Man City? Where is the progress in that? Oh well. Good news for us.

The fees being paid out have nothing to do with the quality of player these days. It’s becoming increasingly difficult for smaller clubs to actually build a winning side. You’d be foolish to set a reasonable price for a player you don’t want to sell. Why heck would you set a fair price? Clubs can’t rely on the player to show loyalty when the bigger clubs start to circle. Best way to ward off potential suitors is to set a price so ridiculous you’d be more than happy to sell if anyone coughs up the money.

The price doesn’t match player quality. Too many of us link this stuff back to normal life, like when selling a used car. You set fair price when you want to sell the damn thing. In football, most clubs don’t want to sell and that’s why prices have gone crazy. We’ve now got plenty of clubs prepared to pay up the money.

Of course the price doesn't match the quality - this has been true for years. But because the money is now flowing like a waterfall we have agents and media hacks hyping up what would have been dog standard into world beating. How many "wonderkids" are there in the game now? A new one emerges every week. It's all bullshit. A moneygoround using the fans' money. It was alway true the fans funded this shit, but the levels of greed have become piss in your face insulting.

Old thieves used to play the game, pretend at least there were standards. And they'd tip their hat to dignity. It's embarrassing now. Like watching pigs fornicating in the muck.

[selassie]

I think Trippier is just as good Walker, so that's a brilliant piece of business as far as Spurs are concerned. 50m for Walker FFS.

Yep, Levy is in a position now where he knows he has a manager who can unearth or develop gems, Poch is like Wenger was when he first came here.

Trippier will replace Walker easily...in fact I wouldn't even be surprised if he replaced him for England. City are mugs, they have been shafted here. Everton took them to the cleaners last season with the John Stones deal.

[selassie]

Why have they sold him to Man City? Where is the progress in that? Oh well. Good news for us.

The fees being paid out have nothing to do with the quality of player these days. It’s becoming increasingly difficult for smaller clubs to actually build a winning side. You’d be foolish to set a reasonable price for a player you don’t want to sell. Why heck would you set a fair price? Clubs can’t rely on the player to show loyalty when the bigger clubs start to circle. Best way to ward off potential suitors is to set a price so ridiculous you’d be more than happy to sell if anyone coughs up the money.

The price doesn’t match player quality. Too many of us link this stuff back to normal life, like when selling a used car. You set fair price when you want to sell the damn thing. In football, most clubs don’t want to sell and that’s why prices have gone crazy. We’ve now got plenty of clubs prepared to pay up the money.

:gp:

Yep, I read this morning Swansea rejected a 40million bid from Leicester for Sigurdsson, yep 40million for Sigurdsson, let that one sink in :lol:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well I'm going to add to the parroting

50 million for Walker???

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yep, Levy is in a position now where he knows he has a manager who can unearth or develop gems, Poch is like Wenger was when he first came here.

Trippier will replace Walker easily...in fact I wouldn't even be surprised if he replaced him for England. City are mugs, they have been shafted here. Everton took them to the cleaners last season with the John Stones deal.

Does Pochetinno even make signings for Spurs, I thought that was all the director of football. I thought he was a head coach.

[Power n Glory]

Of course the price doesn't match the quality - this has been true for years. But because the money is now flowing like a waterfall we have agents and media hacks hyping up what would have been dog standard into world beating. How many "wonderkids" are there in the game now? A new one emerges every week. It's all bullshit. A moneygoround using the fans' money. It was alway true the fans funded this shit, but the levels of greed have become piss in your face insulting.

Old thieves used to play the game, pretend at least there were standards. And they'd tip their hat to dignity. It's embarrassing now. Like watching pigs fornicating in the muck.

Not even worth paying attention to the media hype. I seriously doubt the writers of the bullshit are watching who does what in football. Especially if they don't play in the Prem. That's why I have to question what the heck 'high profile' means. What are we getting swept up by? Has anyone actually watched these players before the ridiculous price tag was slapped on them? Especially when it's a player that's popped up overnight in a foreign league. Hence why it's good to hear you and Selassie speak on what you've seen from a player and actually describe their style of play.

Not even worth getting upset about the fees. It goes back to people willing to pay it.

[Power n Glory]

:gp:

Yep, I read this morning Swansea rejected a 40million bid from Leicester for Sigurdsson, yep 40million for Sigurdsson, let that one sink in :lol:

Damn right. Why set a fair price for your star man when you don't want to sell?

[GP]

Kyle Walker??

I'd rather have Roy Walker.

[Niall_Quinn]

Challenge is to watch this video all the way through - with the sound enabled!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkq4IMUJYuU

[Xhaka Can’t]

Not possible.

[Marc Overmars]

The Italian media are reporting that Sampdoria want Wilshere and we're asking for only £9m. :lol:

If that's true then how the mighty have fallen.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Italian media are reporting that Sampdoria want Wilshere and we're asking for only £9m. :lol:

If that's true then how the mighty have fallen.

Isn't Wilshere on a 300 year contract, or something stupid like that? In this market, how is it only 9 million? Lee Catermole would go for 25 mill. How do we manage to make our players worthless with such alarming regularity? It used to be the exact opposite.

[Marc Overmars]

I think this is the final year of Wheelchair's contract. That combined with his poor fitness record means we probably won't get as much as we should. His reputation has taken a battering over the past few years.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think this is the final year of Wheelchair's contract. That combined with his poor fitness record means we probably won't get as much as we should. His reputation has taken a battering over the past few years.

Really? 5 years has gone that fast? Fuck football. We should all be thinking about our own mortality.

[Penguin]

I think Trippier is just as good Walker, so that's a brilliant piece of business as far as Spurs are concerned. 50m for Walker FFS.

I don't know what's going on anymore. £50m... :haha:

Granted Walker has improved as an attacking fullback in the last couple of years but defensively he's a bit of a joke. Reminds me of Glen Johnson.

[GP]

Wiltshire has signed for Spurs.

[GP]

Werder Bremen fans don't seem to care.

He's probably off to Hoffenheim or some shit.

He's not very good.

Gnabry has signed for Hoffenheim :lol:

[Penguin]

Gnabry has signed for Hoffenheim :lol:

:lol:

He'd have been better off staying at Werder. But better than wasting away in Bayern reserves as he needs the game time.

[Power n Glory]

What's funny about a loan move?

[Penguin]

What's funny about a loan move?

It's funny that he left Werder for 'bigger and better' things and then he's immediately shipped out again before he has kicked a ball for Bayern.

The loan itself isn't funny, it's actually a good move for both him and Bayern.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsene Wenger says that Arsenal have not made a bid for Monaco wonderkid Kylian Mbappe - and revealed he believes the striker will stay at Monaco.
The £120m-rated teenager has been linked with a host of clubs across Europe with reports from Spain claiming the Gunners had made a bid.
Wenger, however, was quick to point out that was not the case...

"Quick" to point out? It only took him a month, as all the ridiculous speculation swirled. And didn't he dive in himself with bullshit about hanging around the kid's house?

[Niall_Quinn]

Speaking in his native Chile, Sanchez said: 'I want to play in the Champions League. The decision isn't down to me, I need to wait for Arsenal.
'I've made my decision, now I wait for Arsenal's reply. The idea is to play and win the Champions League. I've dreamt about it since I was little.
'For now I am at Arsenal and I finish my contract in one more year.'


Now let's see how much ambition this club really has. If it is even a fraction greater then none whatsoever, we'll keep Alexis for the remainder or his contract. Sure. He can move for free next season. But by then we'll have easily had 35 million worth of value from the player. Only downside is he'll be able to go to those shitty gypos, though there's no guarantee those mercenary fucks and their fairweather manager will make the CL this time around. And if only Wenger would properly strengthen the team and stop chatting shit about how great Giroud is, we could win the Europa League thing and we're back in the CL anyway.

Media were claiming Wenger has already resolved to chuck the Europa by playing the kids. Maybe true, maybe bullshit. We'll know soon enough.

If we sell Alexis so we can bring even more cash into this club, well everything that's suspected about the people in charge here is confirmed.

[Niall_Quinn]

'Of course,' Wenger said when asked if Sanchez would remain an Arsenal player. 'There is not a lot to resolve with the player. I have spoken through text and it was very positive. My thoughts are always positive.'

Yes. It's called being delusional.

It seems everyone bar Wenger figured out it would be kind of tricky to keep a world star when the club lacks ambition to compete for anything of note. I suppose he'll take this latest news as proof positive that his fucking around all this time has been the right way to go. Maybe another little gem of a quote, "Look! When the player wants to leave then we must accept he wants to stay. Just because we do not keep the player does not mean we lose him."

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That pretty much says I have my wishes but I will do what the club wants doesn't it?

He's being as vague as Wenger. Just wish they would sort it out either way.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

There's absolutely no point keeping Sanchez. It's clear he won't sign. I'd recommend a Sanchez/ Morata swap deal plus we pay 20million. Buy Lemar, sell Walcott, keep Giroud. Give Ozil the contract he wants and the Ox what he wants to sign and play him in the middle. Done.

[Marc Overmars]

We have to keep Sanchez. Even if it means losing him on a free next year.

He'll still be hungry and fight for us every week such is his nature, that's priceless.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

We have to keep Sanchez. Even if it means losing him on a free next year.

He'll still be hungry and fight for us every week such is his nature, that's priceless.
Maybe he will. But What happens in January when his mind is elsewhere and he's talking with other clubs? Would rather bring in someone who wants to pull on the shirt, not someone who feels like he has to for 12months more. I am not convinced we'll see the same Sanchez this season under the circumstances plus he'll be knackered and blame tiredness.

[Marc Overmars]

Don't think tiredness will be an isssue, he hasn't had a full summer off in years anyway. I just think we'll almost certainly be worse off without him. He's one of the top 10 players in the world for my money, we won't be signing anyone better that's for sure.

[Penguin]

Maybe he will. But What happens in January when his mind is elsewhere and he's talking with other clubs? Would rather bring in someone who wants to pull on the shirt, not someone who feels like he has to for 12months more. I am not convinced we'll see the same Sanchez this season under the circumstances plus he'll be knackered and blame tiredness.

Even if he has made up his mind that he's leaving he'll want to play at his best to get the attention of the clubs he wants to sign for. A lot of players play at their best in the last year of their contracts. Also it's not in Sanchez's character to not give it his all on the pitch, and from his comments about the decision being down to the club it doesn't look like throw his toys out of the pram if we make him see his contract out.

But I am split over whether we should sell him or not. I can see the argument for keeping him but how painful will it be if we still don't win anything and let him walk to City for free in 12 months? If I had more faith in Wenger delivering I would probably lean towards keeping him but I'm not feeling very positive, with or without Alexis.

[Niall_Quinn]

There's absolutely no point keeping Sanchez. It's clear he won't sign. I'd recommend a Sanchez/ Morata swap deal plus we pay 20million. Buy Lemar, sell Walcott, keep Giroud. Give Ozil the contract he wants and the Ox what he wants to sign and play him in the middle. Done.

It's a fucking disgrace that our manager and our club has such minuscule ambition and are such greedy cunts that we can't create an environment where a player like Alexis wants to play. It shouldn't be Alexis who is going - it should be Wenger and the yanks. But, as seems to be the modern way, the winners are leaving and the losers are digging in for the long haul.

[Dicks and chicks]

Lamar is risky after just one good season. Selling sanchez will be top 4 gone imo

[Power n Glory]

Unless we bring in a player that can hit the ground running and make up for what we lose from Alexis in terms or goals, assists and work rate....we can't sell him.

[Niall_Quinn]

Unless we bring in a player that can hit the ground running and make up for what we lose from Alexis in terms or goals, assists and work rate....we can't sell him.

There isn't such a player, not for the money we'd be prepared to pay. Wenger's second rate philosophy has finally come home to roost.

[Gooner23]

He's gone IMO. Wenger has never held on to a player against his wishes before, and the club won't pass up on the transfer fee even if it means to City.

[AFC Leveller]

I think hes told the club he wants to leave for City and hes waiting for them to sort it out. He wont stay, hes too ambitious and hungry.

Great player, will be a big loss. Lacazette is his replacement IMO.

[Marc Overmars]

I don't think we will sell to City. We don't need the money and frankly it would be stupid to strengthen a direct rival.

If he walks there for free next year then so be it, but if we turned the clock back 5-6 years and started selling to rivals again it would send out a damaging message.

[GP]

The only way he goes to City is for silly money. £80m+

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't think we will sell to City. We don't need the money and frankly it would be stupid to strengthen a direct rival.

If he walks there for free next year then so be it, but if we turned the clock back 5-6 years and started selling to rivals again it would send out a damaging message.

Don't underestimate the ability of this board and this manager to find the very worst option. As for damaging messages, we'll have to go some to top handing Wenger a new contract.

[Niall_Quinn]

The only way he goes to City is for silly money. £80m+

£50mill is the figure that has been mentioned all summer.

Whatever happens, a decision needs to be made fast so we aren't doing that silly trolley dash on the last day of the window, buying leftovers for extortionate mark-ups.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Even with 80 million for him....who are we going to get to replace him.....

[Niall_Quinn]

Even with 80 million for him....who are we going to get to replace him.....

No one. He can't be replaced because he's a top tier player that arrived at Arsenal just before we finally slipped into second tier status. He's the last top tier player we'll attract to the club until Wenger and Kroenke are gone. So we might as well hang on to him for one more year.

Although there's Kroenke's and Wenger's profiteering to take into consideration.

Hard decision. Do something for the club and the fans? Or bank the cash? Hmmmmm...

[AFC Leveller]

City released Trippier in 2012.
5 years later he's ousted Walker as first choice RB at Spuds.
City pay 54m for Walker!!!

Great management right there.

[selassie]

Yes. It's called being delusional.

It seems everyone bar Wenger figured out it would be kind of tricky to keep a world star when the club lacks ambition to compete for anything of note. I suppose he'll take this latest news as proof positive that his fucking around all this time has been the right way to go. Maybe another little gem of a quote, "Look! When the player wants to leave then we must accept he wants to stay. Just because we do not keep the player does not mean we lose him."

Brilliant! :haha:

[selassie]

We have to keep Sanchez. Even if it means losing him on a free next year.

He'll still be hungry and fight for us every week such is his nature, that's priceless.

Yep, agreed. Losing Sanchez will damage this club's rep for the foreseeable future. We are already viewed as a soft touch, we let Sanchez go and that will be it.

[Penguin]

Well Bayern have announced they are out of the running for Alexis as they have too many forwards. There's no way we should sell to City or any other English club. Not sure who that leaves so keeping him might be the only option either way.

[selassie]

Well Bayern have announced they are out of the running for Alexis as they have too many forwards. There's no way we should sell to City or any other English club. Not sure who that leaves so keeping him might be the only option either way.

Yep. We should under no circumstances sell him to an English club, if he walks on a free to an English club next summer then so be it.

To be honest we should be doing everything in our power to convince him that Arsenal is the place to be by actually improving our team amongst other things. The window so far has been quite good for Arsenal standards but we need more.

[dostoy]

Wenger has said he will not be sold, that might change in about a months time.

Alexis, I think, does want to leave.

If Arsenal sign Lemar and if Man City bid enough money, then Alexis will be sold.

I know its all 'ifs' but I cannot see Alexis remaining here without signing a new deal which I can't see him doing.

Arsenal will not win the PL whilst Wenger is the manager anyway, regardless of who they sign/keep and how much money is spent.

[Özim]

Wenger has said he will not be sold, that might change in about a months time.

Alexis, I think, does want to leave.

If Arsenal sign Lemar and if Man City bid enough money, then Alexis will be sold.

I know its all 'ifs' but I cannot see Alexis remaining here without signing a new deal which I can't see him doing.

Arsenal will not win the PL whilst Wenger is the manager anyway, regardless of who they sign/keep and how much money is spent.

We're in an awful situation, keep him and he leaves for nothing next year, sell him and we lose a top quality player. On top of that Ox-Chamberlain is still not signed up. We've brought it on ourselves though, I just don't understand how we let all 3 players run down their contracts to 1 year, makes no sense.

The window so far has been ok, we have a decent striker so that's good, but more needed because what we have so far is not enough. Lemar deal is looking more and more unlikely, if we really wanted him we should have got the deal done quickly, because now that Bakayoko is off to Chelsea, Silva has gone to City and Mendy looks to be on his way there as well, Monaco will have plenty of money and probably won't sell unless the get some astronomical offer, they probably don't want to dismantle the whole team.

Mahrez and Mbappe were both just BS speculation with no substance, but you'd have to be pretty gullible to believe we had a chance of signing Mbappe anyway.

[Niall_Quinn]

We had no choice about letting the players run down their deals. We've been trying to sign them for over a year but because there is zero sign of progress at this club nobody wants to commit. If Wenger wanted to keep these players on his terms he needed to be showing them something other than the same old shite. Something like signing Lacazette one or two seasons ago. Or signing Vidal when he was available. Or snapping up Draxler. Or actually bringing in somebody that could genuinely improve the team rather than just keep it ticking over. But Wenger knows best. He knows that Coquelin and Giroud are qualiteeeee and there's nobody out there that can replace them.

[Özim]

We had no choice about letting the players run down their deals. We've been trying to sign them for over a year but because there is zero sign of progress at this club nobody wants to commit. If Wenger wanted to keep these players on his terms he needed to be showing them something other than the same old shite. Something like signing Lacazette one or two seasons ago. Or signing Vidal when he was available. Or snapping up Draxler. Or actually bringing in somebody that could genuinely improve the team rather than just keep it ticking over. But Wenger knows best. He knows that Coquelin and Giroud are qualiteeeee and there's nobody out there that can replace them.

If you're going to do that you may as well sell them with a couple years to go, that way you get a big fee and can spend it on someone else, now it's pointless. I agree though we should have bought better players, always said you want to show top players you have ambition, our mickey mouse transfer policy of signing nobodies has not worked out well for us.

[Power n Glory]

We're in an awful situation, keep him and he leaves for nothing next year, sell him and we lose a top quality player. On top of that Ox-Chamberlain is still not signed up. We've brought it on ourselves though, I just don't understand how we let all 3 players run down their contracts to 1 year, makes no sense.

The window so far has been ok, we have a decent striker so that's good, but more needed because what we have so far is not enough. Lemar deal is looking more and more unlikely, if we really wanted him we should have got the deal done quickly, because now that Bakayoko is off to Chelsea, Silva has gone to City and Mendy looks to be on his way there as well, Monaco will have plenty of money and probably won't sell unless the get some astronomical offer, they probably don't want to dismantle the whole team.

Mahrez and Mbappe were both just BS speculation with no substance, but you'd have to be pretty gullible to believe we had a chance of signing Mbappe anyway.

We need a CM. The guys we have available there right now can only play well under certain conditions and with a certain combination of players. Xhaka, Ramsey and Coquelin struggle against pressing team to distribute the ball.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I agree we really could not impose ourselves on games most of last season, and we also lacked creativity because even though Ozil was scoring more he was creating a lot less.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsenal will seek to off-load fringe players before deciding whether to smash the club’s transfer record for the second time this summer with a raid on Monaco for Thomas Lemar. Lemar remains at the top of Arsene Wenger’s wish-list despite clear indications from the French champions that they are not selling the 21-year-old winger.

Journos are throwing around crazy figures up to 80 mill. I think we'll definitely spend that amount on one player. It would be just like us to do that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis Sanchez wants to join Manchester City and believes Arsenal will cave in their effort to prevent him from joining a domestic rival.


The Gunners are adamant they will not sell their superstar to another Premier League club this summer.


Indeed, sources insist Arsenal will not consider any offers from the Etihad Stadium outfit, even if it means risking losing Sanchez for nothing at the end of the forthcoming season.


Meanwhile, mind reading experts from the tabloid press have discovered that Alexis believes Arsenal will cave and he'll get his move to the gypos for around 50 mill. Or I suppose, after all these years the journos know Arsenal and Wenger only too well.

[Power n Glory]

Just read Le Grove. Something about Lacazette playing on the left with Giroud leading the line. :doh:

If Wenger pulls this shit and doesn't drop Giroud down to the bench or form a strike partnership, we've wasted our money.

[selassie]

Just read Le Grove. Something about Lacazette playing on the left with Giroud leading the line. :doh:

If Wenger pulls this shit and doesn't drop Giroud down to the bench or form a strike partnership, we've wasted our money.

:haha:

I honestly wouldn't put it past Wenger to do this.

[Letters]

:rolleyes:

[selassie]

:rolleyes:

What's with the roll of the eyes? Wenger does have form for moving strikers all over the place. In the past Wiltord was moved to the wing, Eduardo was moved to the wing, Perez last season. It's not outlandish to think Wenger could do this to Lacazette assuming Giroud stays.

[Power n Glory]

:haha:

I honestly wouldn't put it past Wenger to do this.

It looks like that's how things played out in the last pre season game.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEw0ic5UwAANq6N.jpg

[Penguin]

I would assume that Ozil and Alexis will be starting in those two positions behind the striker in most games so we should be good. But you can never be sure with Wenger...

[Gooner23]

I would assume that Ozil and Alexis will be starting in those two positions behind the striker in most games so we should be good. But you can never be sure with Wenger...

Unless Alexis goes, which I think will happen.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I see old copy and paste is now going to Juventus

[Gooner23]

Are we going to regret losing Chezzer to Juve? I haven't followed his time out on loan but I gather he has improved and matured. And despite mistakes being made he clearly loves the club and understands it from a fans perspective.

Cech is really past his best now and I don't rate Ospina at all.

[Dicks and chicks]

Elneney rejects Leicester

[Niall_Quinn]

First priority is to sell Maitland Nile's shorts and bring a new and decent pair. No fucking around on this. Just get it done.

[Penguin]

Are we going to regret losing Chezzer to Juve? I haven't followed his time out on loan but I gather he has improved and matured. And despite mistakes being made he clearly loves the club and understands it from a fans perspective.

Cech is really past his best now and I don't rate Ospina at all.

I haven't been following him either but he must be doing something right.

Time will tell if it's a mistake but for now Cech's still a safe pair of hands. But yeah we should probably start looking for a replacement now.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Elneney rejects Leicester

Don't get that, why him and not Coquelin?

[Marc Overmars]

Don't get that, why him and not Coquelin?

No one is silly enough to pay money for Coquelin.

[Marc Overmars]

Chelsea to sign Morata for £70m. :lol:

[fakeyank]

I like Martinez as a keeper. Has looked solid whenever he has got a chance. To me, he is ahead of ospina.

[Power n Glory]

Wait, we agreed to sell Elneny?

[Dicks and chicks]

Wait, we agreed to sell Elneny?

10 mil bid accepted but he doesn't want to leave . Who else are we gonna get to replace him and be happy as 67th choice?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wait, we agreed to sell Elneny?

Wenger doesn't tolerate penalty shoot out misses.

[GP]

No credible source for an Elneny bid let alone us accepting.

It's bullshit.

[Power n Glory]

Hoping it's bullshit. Out of all of our CM's available, he's the only one I think is capable of improving our ability to retain possession in the midfield.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Wenger has made a huge mistake. Not as huge as the fucking cowardly money grabbing parasites that are keeping him on mind.

http://news.arseblog.com/2017/07/szczesny-pens-emotional-arsenal-farewell-message/

[Gooner23]

Chelsea to sign Morata for £70m. :lol:

I think it shows the lack of really top strikers around at the moment. Morata and Lukaku are good players but nothing special in my view.

[GP]

If Neymar actually goes to PSG I will vomit everywhere.

[Marc Overmars]

If Neymar actually goes to PSG I will vomit everywhere.

£196m release clause. :wacko:

[Power n Glory]

I think it shows the lack of really top strikers around at the moment. Morata and Lukaku are good players but nothing special in my view.

We should be charging £40m for whoever wants Giroud.

We need a Director of Football. We're selling players for peanuts. Should have charged a load more to Juve for Ches.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Problem is we are pricing a lot of our flotsum off the market with the wages they are on

[selassie]

Problem is we are pricing a lot of our flotsum off the market with the wages they are on

Yep, we have a lot of garbage to move on that are on inflated wages. I read somewhere that the only way we can get rid of Debuchy is by terminating his contract a year early, he's on something like 80k per week. We have others like Gibbs, Perez, Chambers who are all rumoured to be available for transfer, all of them earn a tidy penny though.

I have also been reading rumours that we are trying to move Wilshere on, West Ham are sniffing around but it sounds like they want a loan whereas we want a fee, 20million!!! I wonder if West Ham are stupid enough to bite, they have been spending quite recklessly for a while now.

[Marc Overmars]

West Ham to sign Chicharito for £16m.

Always thought he was a great little striker, popping up in the right place at the right time.

[Power n Glory]

West Ham to sign Chicharito for £16m.

Always thought he was a great little striker, popping up in the right place at the right time.

That is really cheap.

[fakeyank]

West Ham to sign Chicharito for £16m.

Always thought he was a great little striker, popping up in the right place at the right time.

I would have him over walcott and welbeck any second of the day.

[Gooner23]

That is really cheap.

It's a steal in this crazy market. He'll get goals for them.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Football is somehow getting even more disgusting.

[GP]

We should match PSGs bid for Neymar

[Xhaka Can’t]

We should match PSGs bid for Neymar

+1

[GP]

Don't be silly.

[Power n Glory]

Liverpool reject a £72m bid from Barcelona for Coutinho. We're missing out. We've handled our business poorly.

[fakeyank]

Sky reporting that we have been offered Rafinha from Barca.. dont know if he is any good. I'd still want Mahrez here over some of the other names tbh.

[milla]

Crazy inflated transfer market, isn't there any quality striker available for £40mil + £1 anymore? :coffee:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Sky reporting that we have been offered Rafinha from Barca.. dont know if he is any good. I'd still want Mahrez here over some of the other names tbh.

Rafinha is a full back and would be a makeweight in any potential deal for Bellerin

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

No I take it back he's a central midfielder

Getting accused with the one who plays for Bayern Munich

[dostoy]

If PSG bid 70 million pounds for Alexis, who is not going to sign a new contract, then surely he will be sold.

Its a lot of money and he is going to a foreign club as well, so inevitably he will go.

That money has got to be used to buy other top players like Lemar.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man City agree a £52 million fee for Mendy, say BBC.

I'm sure they spend more on defenders than attackers. :wacko:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40691689

[Marc Overmars]

Monaco. :lol:

Title winning team ripped to shreds.

[Niall_Quinn]

Man City agree a £52 million fee for Mendy, say BBC.

I'm sure they spend more on defenders than attackers. :wacko:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40691689

That's the Lemar deal dead.

[Letters]

£196m release clause. :wacko:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40690701

:sick:

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently Neymar is giving the move some serious thought too.

It's probably best for us if this does happen so they drop their interest in Alexis. They're reportedly going to bid £35m.

In other news, we've rejected a 10m bid from West Brom for Gibbs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Also reports PSG are prepared to go up to 70 mill for Alexis. No way will we be turning that down if it arrives within Stan's suction range.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We may as well sell him because all we intend to do otherwise is just waste another year of his career.

[Dicks and chicks]

https://twitter.com/XhakieChan/status/888778203292205060/photo/1

[Letters]

https://twitter.com/XhakieChan/status/888778203292205060/photo/1

What's your point? <_<


:getcoat:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40686943

And another defender for Citeh at mental money, given this guy doesn't play all that often.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pep's doing what he's used to. Unlimited budget (which some might say is the secret to his genius), pick the exact players for the system you want. I guess it would be silly to suggest he not spend the money when he has it. But, for me, he remains an untested manager, despite all his trophies. Or maybe it's better to say he's a luxury manager. If you have all the money in the world then Pep can build you a decent team.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If we kept Sanchez where would Lemar actually play?

[AFC Leveller]

So much loyalty in one photo

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialFootballFeed/posts/776605719211692:0

[Niall_Quinn]

Apparently 55mill is the final fee for Lemar and we're willing to pay it. Go on then. Pay it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Marco Asensio is another player we are looking at, according to the Daily Express.

WHO????? (is the Daily Express? Anyone ever heard of them?)

[Marc Overmars]

Chelsea are interested in The Ox.

Can't help but feel selling him would be tinged with regret. I think a better coach would be able to get a lot more out of him.

[Niall_Quinn]

Chelsea are interested in The Ox.

Can't help but feel selling him would be tinged with regret. I think a better coach would be able to get a lot more out of him.

I think a retarded monkey could get more out of him. But the board refuses to consider such an upgrade.

[Niall_Quinn]

Everton pay 45 mill quid for Sigurdsson. :haha:

:wacko:

[Niall_Quinn]

Antalyaspor have made an audacious move to sign Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere.

Sportsmail revealed last week that the England international is free to leave the Emirates Stadium this summer.

Sampdoria have had a £6.5million bid turned down while West Ham, Swansea and Newcastle are keen on loan deals.

We want 9 mill for him, apparently.

[Marc Overmars]

Perez unsurprisingly wants out. :wave:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10960070/lucas-perez-tells-arsenal-he-wants-out-after-ugly-gesture

Seems like he's been shafted. I wish Wenger was this ruthless with players who constantly fail to make the most of their generous opportunities to play.

[Gooner23]

I feel for him, been treated pretty badly. Whenever he played he looked decent, yet had to spend most of his time on the sidelines watching all Wenger's favourites making the same mistakes time and time again.

[Thierrymon]

Perez unsurprisingly wants out. :wave:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10960070/lucas-perez-tells-arsenal-he-wants-out-after-ugly-gesture

Seems like he's been shafted. I wish Wenger was this ruthless with players who constantly fail to make the most of their generous opportunities to play.

So pretty much our entire team then

[Niall_Quinn]

Perez did not have enough qualiteeeeeeeeeeeee.

And he ran too fast and kept passing it forwards.

But that's not the worst of it.

His crosses were sometimes accurate.

Accurate! I tell you!

So sure. GTFO Prerez. We don't want your sort here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Apparently Wenger gave Perez's shirt to Lacazette and only told the player about it afterwards. You can say it's up to the manager and that's true, but you can also easily note what a shit man manager Wenger is. An incompetent idiot bumbling around at the helm of what used to be a great club.

[Marc Overmars]

Real Madrid have reportedly had a bid of 161m accepted for Mbappe. :lol:

FFS.

[Gooner23]

Monaco are going to have all the money, but no players left. Cant see them parting with Lemar as well now.

Swansea have turned down 40m for Sigurdsson because they value him at 50m :haha: Football has gone mad.

[GP]

It's obscene, to be honest.

People will still have a go at Wenger for not landing Mbappe but would anyone even consider spending that much?

[Niall_Quinn]

Looks like everyone will get their man from Monaco.

Except, you know who. I guess fucking around with a 30 mill bid for a 50 mill player wasn't the smartest move. Ah well, it was nice imagining for a while we might go into a season with a strengthened squad. Just Alexis and Ox to sell, a few items of dross to renew contracts for and we're done.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's obscene, to be honest.

People will still have a go at Wenger for not landing Mbappe but would anyone even consider spending that much?

Nobody would call Wenger a cock for refusing to spend 160mill on a kid who may go the way of all those other "wonderkids" (and probably will if he joins those Spanish turds). Plenty of legitimate stuff to criticise Wenger over, without having to invent anything.

I wonder how much the scumbag agent is skimming? New record no doubt.

[Niall_Quinn]

All-in, the Mbappe deal will cost Marketing a quarter of a BILLION quid. That used to be the cost of a CL winning squad.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Many outlets reporting we have lemar in the bag. I'll only believe it when he's pictured on arsenal.com wearing a red and white shirt

[GP]

Many outlets reporting we have lemar in the bag. I'll only believe it when he's pictured on arsenal.com wearing a red and white shirt

We'll sign him If There's Any Justice In The World.

[Marc Overmars]

Coutinho to Barca could be on apparently.

[Niall_Quinn]

Coutinho to Barca could be on apparently.

For 90 million silly quid.

[GP]

He'll be worth every penny for the 1 in 5 games he shows up for.

[Niall_Quinn]

Many outlets reporting we have lemar in the bag. I'll only believe it when he's pictured on arsenal.com wearing a red and white shirt

All I see is that we're going back with another bid.

30 mill, 40 mill, 45 mill, now 50 mill. Why can't our lot figure out a bid that's going to work and then put that bid in? What's this thing about going back over and over again? Doesn't it just waste time and energy and potentially strain relations with the club we're trying to do business with?

I'm just a bloke on a little visited web site and I said 50 mill a month ago. Monaco reckon they can get 80mill if Lemar puts in another good season. So we were always going to have to make a bid that took that into account. What did we do? We bid 30 mill. Stupid. Wenger trying to enforce his value system that everyone else ignores.

Now that Monaco have sold most of their top stars, I reckon it might take 60 or 70 mill to prise this player away. Maybe even the full 80.

Is he worth that? Of course not. Are any of these players worth their fees? Nope. Well maybe Ronaldo to Madrid, but that's about it. Will we see a dramatic transformation with Lemar in the team? Nope. We'll be better but still subject to all the usual flaws. Is Lacazette worth the money? Nope. Wenger won't use either of these players properly anyway.

This is a moneygoround that is spinning faster and faster and has lost all perspective. Wenger is being dragged into this market kicking and screaming no doubt. He's not wrong to think this is a nuthouse. But he just signed up for another 2 years in the loony bin. His choice. If he wants this player he needs to put all ideas of value out of his head, make a proper bid and get the thing done. Otherwise give it a rest.

And anyway, aren't we only trying to sign this guy so we limit the fuss when Alexis gets sold to a major rival?

[Özim]

Very average transfer window so far, happy with Lacazette (at last we've signed a decent striker) but really we need more than that, most of the other teams have gone out and signed a number of players to improve their squads and so far we only have one (I'm not including the freebie as I don't know much about him and am yet to be convinced he's up to the job).

Amost the end of July, we really should have most of our business done by now, this Lemar rumour persists but I'm not sure it's even real, just like the Mbappe one which was total BS, even if it is real now that Monaco have sold half their team the likelyness of us getting him is getting smaller by the day.

As usual though we're not doing what we need to in the transfer market and on top of that none of the 3 players with one year left have signed new contracts, we're also lumbered with a load of dead wood we don't seem to be able to get rid of due to their wages and the fact they're rubbish.

[Niall_Quinn]

Saw this in the Daily Fake News and it made me chuckle:


Lemar & Mbappe will BOTH be at Arsenal soon. Both players have stated that they are only interested in joining Arsenal and with or without contracts Monaco cannot stop them leaving as French law makes it illegal to restrict any ones right to change their employer regardless of contracts.

Sounds very reasonable. Stick in a £240mill bid for both and sue Monaco in a quick and decisive case that shouldn't cost more than £100mill in shyster dues. I can see this happening. Really looking forward to the season now.

It's on!

[Niall_Quinn]

In-demand Arsenal forward Alexis Sanchez claims to be struggling with illness, casting doubt over his return to first team action with the Gunners.
Arsene Wenger had claimed on Thursday that the Chile international, whose future at the Emirates remains uncertain, would be back training with his team-mates this Sunday.
But Sanchez has fuelled speculation that he could be out for more time, yet, by claiming he is currently ill.

That's one way of doing it I suppose. Will we see him in an Arsenal shirt again? Oh well, if he wants to go then go, I suppose. Won't make any difference to the final outcome anyway.

[Niall_Quinn]

Monaco have rejected Arsenal’s latest £50million offer for winger Thomas Lemar, after Sportmail revealed that the Gunners would submit a third offer for the France international.
The bid has been turned down by the Ligue 1 club as they look to keep hold of Lemar, one of their remaining star men.
Monaco chiefs insisted earlier this week that the 21-year-old is not for sale, despite the fact the French club have seen host of their top players leave this summer.


£50,000,001 bid on the way.

[Niall_Quinn]

PEREZ AT ARSENAL
Appearances - 21 | Goals - 7
Shot accuracy - 80 per cent
Chances created - 7
Pass accuracy - 78 per cent

We paid 17 mill and are about to sell him for 8 mill. Wenger let him on the pitch 21 times in total, compared to Sanogo's 20 appearances. Perez will have been on the books for 1 year. Sanogo for 4 years.

[fakeyank]

We paid 17 mill and are about to sell him for 8 mill. Wenger let him on the pitch 21 times in total, compared to Sanogo's 20 appearances. Perez will have been on the books for 1 year. Sanogo for 4 years.

Wenger is a POS. #StainOnTheClub

[Marc Overmars]

We paid 17 mill and are about to sell him for 8 mill. Wenger let him on the pitch 21 times in total, compared to Sanogo's 20 appearances. Perez will have been on the books for 1 year. Sanogo for 4 years.

Such a waste.

Can't believe how Perez's time here has panned out.

[KSE Comedy Club]

What's the time scale until Sanchez leaves then?

Any predictions...??

[Xhaka Can’t]

It would have come to a head when we had our usual CL qualification tie. Playing him in that would have affected our ability to cash in to the max from our usual weak negotiating position. So it is anyone's guess really.

[Dicks and chicks]

What's the time scale until Sanchez leaves then?

Any predictions...??

We should snag a psg player to replace him , he's gone

[Dicks and chicks]

We paid 17 mill and are about to sell him for 8 mill. Wenger let him on the pitch 21 times in total, compared to Sanogo's 20 appearances. Perez will have been on the books for 1 year. Sanogo for 4 years.
Perez was a good player really.

[Özim]

We paid 17 mill and are about to sell him for 8 mill. Wenger let him on the pitch 21 times in total, compared to Sanogo's 20 appearances. Perez will have been on the books for 1 year. Sanogo for 4 years.

Unbelievable really, blind faith in talentless nobodies but won't give a chance to players who are more deserving, taking his number away without even letting him know just shows how respectful we are as well. Unfortunately we not only have a manager who doesn't know what he's doing but also puts favouritism over talent.

Incidentally still no signed contract for Ozil and Ox, we already know Sanchez won't sign but the ridiculous slow progress with the other two is shameful really, how long does it take to get a player tied down, Ozil has said he wants to stay and we can't even get that done, aving said that the boss is probably holidaying on his yacht and making some extra cash on TV so probably has no time for minor things like that.

[GP]

What's the time scale until Sanchez leaves then?

Any predictions...??

12 months minimum.

[Niall_Quinn]

What's the time scale until Sanchez leaves then?

Any predictions...??

Well it seems as if the player is on strike. The gypos are talking about paying him 400k a week and there's an agent who is looking to skim. Plus we're likely to get a fee in the region of 50 mill for a player with just a year left on his contract. So very soon, is my estimate. Next week? Week after?

Above all else though, it's us. We'll already be making plans behind the scenes to make the deal. PR will have to be prepped, a few rounds of handwringing in the media, a follow-up assassination campaign and careful avoidance of the mention Wenger couldn't even drag us into 4th place last season. That should do it.

44 mill out for Lacazette. 50 mill in for Alexis. 10 mill for Chesney. That's a profit, during a window where all our major rivals are spending big on players or stadiums. Sustainability at its finest. If they are in a generous mood they might even shell out the surplus 16 mill on another Perez. Or how about 2 Sanogos and a Kallstrom? Or they might just bank the cash if they are feeling particularly adventurous.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

On strike? :unsure:

Did I miss something.

[Niall_Quinn]

On strike? :unsure:

Did I miss something.

I mean he's ill and can't start training.

[Dicks and chicks]

I like our new left back a lot, think he was a great bit of business but Lacazette is clearly shit, the French manager rates Giroud over him, we are clearly in big trouble. Should bid for Sadar Azmoun, can't believe we weren't in for bernado Silva at the beginning of the transfer window

[Özim]

Lacazette isn't sh*t but if play him on the wing where he doesn't play then yes he'll struggle.

[Penguin]

Bit too soon to call him shit :blink:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Sell him, he's shit!

[Marc Overmars]

Bit too soon to call him shit :blink:

Yeah, shit is harsh. I prefer Lacashite.

[Letters]

http://e0.365dm.com/17/07/16-9/20/alexandre-lacazette-lyon-top-scorers_3990746.jpg?20170701130218

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis is not on that list. So he can't be any good then.

Yeah, Lacazette has been banging them in in the French league, we'll see how it goes when he gets a taste of the PL opposition and their refs. Pre-season only, but on what I've seen of him in the last couple of weeks plus in the games I watched out for him last season, he looks second tier not top tier. Doesn't mean he's shit, but at 26, let's just say we don't have the next Henry on our hands. Couple that with Wenger's unique abilities and I think the guy is going to have a hard time. Maybe he's a quick study and maybe he can find a way to ignore Wenger. We'll have to wait and see.

But if we end up swapping Alexis for Lacazette, that will very much represent us getting the shitty end of the stick.

[Niall_Quinn]

Griezmann for 178 mill is the latest obscenity being mooted in the media. That's if Neymar heads off to France for close on 200 mill. What a farce. That release clause was put in his contract and made stupidly high so that nobody would ever bid. Didn't take long to plumb that depth though. What's a new release clause going to be? A billion? And when will that be broken? Next year? Next month? Next week?

[Chippy]

Yeah, shit is harsh. I prefer Lacashite.

Oi oi pal. Copyright issue there:oldboy:

[Power n Glory]

Alexis is not on that list. So he can't be any good then.

Yeah, Lacazette has been banging them in in the French league, we'll see how it goes when he gets a taste of the PL opposition and their refs. Pre-season only, but on what I've seen of him in the last couple of weeks plus in the games I watched out for him last season, he looks second tier not top tier. Doesn't mean he's shit, but at 26, let's just say we don't have the next Henry on our hands. Couple that with Wenger's unique abilities and I think the guy is going to have a hard time. Maybe he's a quick study and maybe he can find a way to ignore Wenger. We'll have to wait and see.

But if we end up swapping Alexis for Lacazette, that will very much represent us getting the shitty end of the stick.

I thought everyone already understood that he's not a Henry type? He's closer to being a Wright or Anelka in terms of style of play. He'll be more dependent on team play and service. That doesn't make him second tier. Now that we have a striker that can make the runs and has the strength and pace, it's down to midfield to pull it together and get him assists.

[Letters]

Alexis is not on that list. So he can't be any good then.
A player's absence from that list doesn't mean they are shit, but a player's presence on it means they probably aren't.
But yes, it remains to be seen how he will fare in our team.
But him not being the "new Henry" doesn't make him shit either, chances are we'll never, or very rarely, see the likes of him again.

[Dicks and chicks]

http://e0.365dm.com/17/07/16-9/20/alexandre-lacazette-lyon-top-scorers_3990746.jpg?20170701130218

French manager prefers Giroud to laca

[Niall_Quinn]

I thought everyone already understood that he's not a Henry type? He's closer to being a Wright or Anelka in terms of style of play. He'll be more dependent on team play and service. That doesn't make him second tier. Now that we have a striker that can make the runs and has the strength and pace, it's down to midfield to pull it together and get him assists.

He's clearly second tier. You can tell from his control, his passing, the general technique to his game. But he makes some good runs and he has a bit of pace. If he has a cooler head than Theo or Welbz and is prepared to put in more effort than Giroud (which is guaranteed provided he remains alive) then he's an upgrade. Wright or Anelka though? I don't think so. Think Defoe. Not bad and he'll get a few goals. But you don't mention the name when you talk about the world's great strikers. And that's what I mean by second tier. Not that he's a bad player, but he's not up at that top level. Then again, nor are a lot of the hype merchants commanding the big fees.

[Marc Overmars]

If it's a creative and guile laden midfield he needs to excel, then he's in trouble.

[Power n Glory]

He's clearly second tier. You can tell from his control, his passing, the general technique to his game. But he makes some good runs and he has a bit of pace. If he has a cooler head than Theo or Welbz and is prepared to put in more effort than Giroud (which is guaranteed provided he remains alive) then he's an upgrade. Wright or Anelka though? I don't think so. Think Defoe. Not bad and he'll get a few goals. But you don't mention the name when you talk about the world's great strikers. And that's what I mean by second tier. Not that he's a bad player, but he's not up at that top level. Then again, nor are a lot of the hype merchants commanding the big fees.

As long as he's clinical in front of goal and his touch isn't so bad it fucks him up in front of goal, we'll be ok. Also, Wenger has to play him up front and not on the wing.

Been saying this for ages, but Lacazette is the type of striker we should have developed Theo into. But saying that, I don't think Wenger is a fan of that type of player up front. He's avoided playing Theo there for ages and it took an age for him to buy Lacazette.

I think was screwed over when West Ham wouldn't allow him to move to Man Utd. I wouldn't call him second rate at all.

[Power n Glory]

If it's a creative and guile laden midfield he needs to excel, then he's in trouble.

Özil and Xhaka have to really step their game up this year. We have the sort of striker they should be able to supply.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I thought everyone already understood that he's not a Henry type? He's closer to being a Wright or Anelka in terms of style of play. He'll be more dependent on team play and service. That doesn't make him second tier. Now that we have a striker that can make the runs and has the strength and pace, it's down to midfield to pull it together and get him assists.

The most important thing it is down to is Wenger not playing him on the wing.

[Power n Glory]

The most important thing it is down to is Wenger not playing him on the wing.

That too. We have to hope Lacazette hits the ground running. Last season, poor Perez started the opening game up front, got no service despite having Ozil and Cazorla behind him and never started up front again. We ended up having to sub on Sanchez and Giroud.

I have a feeling Wenger will do something similar and bring Giroud in to play up front with Lacazette playing on the left and Ozil on the right.

[Letters]

French manager prefers Giroud to laca

Ok. That also doesn't make him "shit". His scoring record is excellent, he could be exactly what he needs. Whether he'll be able to fit into our team and do it in the PL remains to be seen.
He hasn't even played a competitive game for us yet, stop being ridiculous.

[Power n Glory]

The French manager has been playing Giroud over Mbappe, Martial, Benzema and Griezmann. I wouldn't pay any attention to Tranny.

[Niall_Quinn]

As long as he's clinical in front of goal and his touch isn't so bad it fucks him up in front of goal, we'll be ok. Also, Wenger has to play him up front and not on the wing.

Been saying this for ages, but Lacazette is the type of striker we should have developed Theo into. But saying that, I don't think Wenger is a fan of that type of player up front. He's avoided playing Theo there for ages and it took an age for him to buy Lacazette.

I think was screwed over when West Ham wouldn't allow him to move to Man Utd. I wouldn't call him second rate at all.

Not second rate, second tier. Big difference.

[Niall_Quinn]

The most important thing it is down to is Wenger not playing him on the wing.

The most important thing is avoiding that which cannot possibly be avoided?

[Niall_Quinn]

That too. We have to hope Lacazette hits the ground running. Last season, poor Perez started the opening game up front, got no service despite having Ozil and Cazorla behind him and never started up front again. We ended up having to sub on Sanchez and Giroud.

I have a feeling Wenger will do something similar and bring Giroud in to play up front with Lacazette playing on the left and Ozil on the right.

Course he will. That's what clowns do.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ok. That also doesn't make him "shit". His scoring record is excellent, he could be exactly what he needs. Whether he'll be able to fit into our team and do it in the PL remains to be seen.
He hasn't even played a competitive game for us yet, stop being ridiculous.

If he manages to fit into our team then his career is finished. He has to do everything in his power to avoid fitting in and instead retain his directness and hunger to score. All things that Wenger will try to beat out of him early. It won't be posed that way, and I'm sure that won't be the intent. But if he gets caught up in all that pass, pass, pass, slow it down, back to goal bullshit then he's finished.

[Power n Glory]

Not second rate, second tier. Big difference.

What's the difference? :lol: It's still second.

[Dicks and chicks]

Gibbs won't leave because WBA can't meet his wage demands , same with jenkinson. We also resigned Wellington Silva on our books too but can't ship him out because he failed a medical at Boudreaux

[GP]

Gibbs won't leave because WBA can't meet his wage demands , same with jenkinson. We also resigned Wellington Silva on our books too but can't ship him out because he failed a medical at Boudreaux

Wellington failed his medical so never left Fluminese.

[GP]

I saw Wenger in the supermarket today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-1basQhX8

[Xhaka Can’t]

Are you Otto?

[selassie]

Words of wisdom from Wenger :rolleyes:

3 first team players refusing to extend their contracts says more about Wenger than it does about player power or even Arsenal. They are REFUSING to extend because they don't believe in Wenger and his hollow words, they don't believe he is capable of building a football team to compete!

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/alexis-sanchez-mesut-ozil-on-expiring-contracts-is-ideal-for-arsenal-says-arsene-wenger-a3599736.html



Arsene Wenger believes the soon-to-expire contracts of Alexis Sanchez, Mesut Ozil, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and others constitute "an ideal situation" for Arsenal.

The trio can all currently leave the club on a free next summer – and able to sign pre-contract agreements with teams outside England from January 1 – but are not the only ones. Jack Wilshere and Kieran Gibbs also have contracts that expire in 2018, as does the injured Santi Cazorla.

Little progress has been made on deals for Sanchez and Oxlade-Chamberlain, despite Arsenal having offered a new contract worth up to £300,000-a-week to the former. Standard Sport understands Manchester City are poised to make a bid but Wenger has insisted for several months that the 28-year-old will not be sold.

Regarding Ozil and Sanchez entering the new season with their futures still unresolved, Wenger said: “In the future you will see that more and more, players going to the end of their contract.

Wenger: Sanchez is staying at Arsenal

“Why? Because transfers become so high, even for normal players, they will go to the end of the contract because no-one will want to pay the amount of money that is demanded. I am convinced that in the next 10 years that will become usual.”

Arsenal appointed former Team Sky lawyer Huss Fahmy this summer to improve their management of player contracts but Wenger insisted it was “ideal” to have six of his first-team squad in the final 12 months of their deals.

“Everybody has to perform,” he added. “When you are a football player you perform until the last day of your contract. What does it change if you have two years or one year to go? If you go out on the football pitch you want to play and you want to do well.

“Do you really think that you sit in the dressing room before the game and think ‘Oh I only have one year to go I will not play well today’? Where does that come from?

"When you’re a football player you want to go out and play and do as well as you can. What does that have to do with the length of your contract? How long do you know that you will work for your company? As long as you work you do well.

Ozil confirms he wants to stay at Arsenal - and issues plea to Sanchez

“Even if [they negotiate a move away] it doesn’t matter. You do well at what you do. I am amazed that you’re surprised by that. It looks normal to me.

“Nobody knows if Sanchez will not extend his contract here. The performance on the day does not depend on the length of the contract. If that was true we would sign everyone for 20 years.”

Arsenal spent much of last season engulfed in an endless debate over Wenger’s own contract, which was left unsigned until after the FA Cup win over Chelsea.

Wenger admitted shortly afterwards that doubts over his future had contributed to a “horrendous” psychological environment, but is convinced the same will not happen with Sanchez.
“My situation was different. It impacted the players. Any individual player does not," he said. “What can I do? One day he will go and Arsenal will go on. We will all go one day and Arsenal will go on. Hopefully.

“Of course I think he’ll stay. How many times have I said that?”