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KSE Comedy Club
29-01-2018, 11:17 PM
It’s all a bit pathetic really.

If we have agreed a fee and personal terms & Dortmund bosses want shot of him, then surely they aren’t gonna
just keep him there?

That would be a stupid decision.

HCZ
29-01-2018, 11:24 PM
It’s all a bit pathetic really.

If we have agreed a few and personal terms & Dortmund bosses want shot of him, then surely they aren’t gonna
just keep him there?

That would be a stupid decision.

you mean like how we did with sanchez and city

KSE Comedy Club
29-01-2018, 11:33 PM
you mean like how we did with sanchez and city

That wasn’t the same at all. We didn’t agree the fee with them the first time round and Wenger didn’t want to sell, then this time Sanchez and his agent got greedy and priced themselves out of a deal.

Niall_Quinn
30-01-2018, 12:33 AM
Merry-go-round: Giroud was lined up to replace Aubameyang at Dortmund then got offer from Chelsea & was keen, so Dortmund turned to Batshuayi. But Chelsea baulked at Giroud fee so discussed Batshuayi/Llorente swap with Spurs, which nobody agreed on. Deadlock #AFC #BVB #CFC THFC https://t.co/HA6ymZ6IiN

:doh:

Wait a sec. They want Llorente AND Morates? WTF? No team would carry that tonnage of shit by accident, so what's their angle?

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
30-01-2018, 12:56 AM
Money talks. If we'd have coughed up the asking price earlier they'd have enough time to buy a replacement. Now we're stuck in this disgusting threesome.

That made me literally laugh!! Disgusting threesome!

Chortle! :lol:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
30-01-2018, 01:05 AM
FFS Dortmund.....just take anybody you want on loan apart from Ozil, Wilshere and Mihiki. Literally! Just take them all.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
30-01-2018, 02:01 AM
Rafa Honigstein(sp?) reckons City tried to sign Aubameyang in 2016 for 70m Euros but it was turned down.....

Cripps
30-01-2018, 08:22 AM
Giroud agreed terms with #CFC who bid €20m. #AFC, after long delay, accepted yesterday only to be told offer no longer on table (L'Equipe)

Report says talks b/w #CFC & #AFC re-opened last night. Monaco, like BVB, keen. But Giroud wants London & faces 'longest 48 hrs of his life'

Thierrymon
30-01-2018, 08:26 AM
That is such a low fee to sell a quality player to our rivals. Why are we so shit at selling players for respectable money?

Marc Overmars
30-01-2018, 08:27 AM
Flog him to West Ham if he wants to stay in London so bad. They’ll probably pay top dollar too.

Ralpheroo72
30-01-2018, 08:28 AM
Why don’t we swap Giroud for Batshit, then sell him to Dortmund?

Penguin
30-01-2018, 08:30 AM
It’s all a bit pathetic really.

If we have agreed a fee and personal terms & Dortmund bosses want shot of him, then surely they aren’t gonna
just keep him there?

That would be a stupid decision.

It's not really stupid on their part. Unlike our situation with Alexis, Aubameyang still has 3 or 4 years left on his contract. Dortmund don't have that risk of losing him for nothing so they can afford to just say no if they don't have a replacement first. And why shouldn't they?

We shouldn't have waited until the eleventh hour to make a reasonable offer. If we offered £60m on the 1st of January the deal would have been done by now and Dortmund would have enough time to bring in a replacement. We're the stupid ones.

Have we managed to fuck it up AGAIN?

AFC Leveller
30-01-2018, 08:49 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUvklOZXcAU5VuU.jpg:large

AFC Leveller
30-01-2018, 08:49 AM
From Ornstein.

KSE Comedy Club
30-01-2018, 08:54 AM
It's not really stupid on their part. Unlike our situation with Alexis, Aubameyang still has 3 or 4 years left on his contract. Dortmund don't have that risk of losing him for nothing so they can afford to just say no if they don't have a replacement first. And why shouldn't they?

We shouldn't have waited until the eleventh hour to make a reasonable offer. If we offered £60m on the 1st of January the deal would have been done by now and Dortmund would have enough time to bring in a replacement. We're the stupid ones.

Have we managed to fuck it up AGAIN?

But they aren't going to lose him for nothing as an offer is on the table that they have agreed to. They have dropped him twice this season and the directors want him gone from the club, so their stance of only letting him leave if they find a replacement is stupid as we would be in the same situation on the 1st as we are in now - waiting for them to find a replacement.

I know time scale is a factor but it doesn't change the circumstances of the situation.

Ideally everyone wants to find a replacement, but most clubs sell, then start shopping.

AFC Leveller
30-01-2018, 08:55 AM
Basically we hold all the cards, if we sell Giroud to Chelsea, then Batshit can replace Auba and everyone is happy.

We paid 12m for Giroud (i know it was a long time ago but still) and Chelsea have offered 18m, which isnt bad for a second choice (3rd choice if Auba comes) striker.

Özim
30-01-2018, 09:39 AM
This is too funny, we won't sell Giroud until we sign someone (which was odd as Dortmund were willing to sign him and we said no, almost as if to scupper the deal). Chelsea baulking at the asking price for Giroud which considering he's 31 and not much of a goalscorer is understandable.

We can quite feasibly mess up the deal for Aubameyang and then look like the innocent party to many fans (le'ts face it, that's probably what we want, what other reason did we have for not wanting to sell Giroud to Dortmund).

I'll laugh my head off if we fail to sign Aubameyang after all this hype, if we'd offered enough money in the first place Dortmund would have all the time to sign someone, instead we messed about giving them two days to find a replacement (and let's face it no club wants to sell someone and not have a replacement in January

We're well and truly messing this up :haha:

Marc Overmars
30-01-2018, 09:45 AM
Zim I’m pretty sure no fan is going to view us as the innocent party if we don’t get him.

The club will be crucified.

Özim
30-01-2018, 09:52 AM
Zim I’m pretty sure no fan is going to view us as the innocent party if we don’t get him.

The club will be crucified.

I'd agree with you but there seems to be a group of Arsenal fans with every excuse under the sun (those that have stuck with Wenger), as I've said what we're doing here is the bare minimum in reality, we're not spending any money really, just money from player sales, considering the ticket prices and cost of everything at the club and the net spend over the years that's not really enough.

Obviously it would be great to get Aubameyang, but we should expect that after losing Sanchez and selling Ox, Coquelin, Walcott, in fact we should expect more in reality, somehow the club seem to have turned this into some massive deal and proof that things have changed without actually spending any money.

Another false dawn IMO and I'm not falling for it, but mark my words many will, that's one of the reasons Wenger has been in charge so long.

The Emirates Gallactico
30-01-2018, 10:00 AM
It's like Bale/Ozil situation again. Everyone's waiting for the other to make the first move so all the dominos can fall into place. No one's prepared to make the first move. :doh:

Don't like selling Giroud to the Chavs for so low but if that's what needed to complete the Aubeymang deal then ffs go for it. I don't think people realise just what an improve he is to all our current forward options.


It's easier said than done from my laptop screen, but we should not have allowed the Aubeymang deal conditional on Dortmund finding a replacement.

Cripps
30-01-2018, 10:45 AM
Basically we hold all the cards, if we sell Giroud to Chelsea, then Batshit can replace Auba and everyone is happy.

We paid 12m for Giroud (i know it was a long time ago but still) and Chelsea have offered 18m, which isnt bad for a second choice (3rd choice if Auba comes) striker.

Only we can manage to shoot ourselves in the foot whilst making a world class signing :haha:

KSE Comedy Club
30-01-2018, 10:48 AM
We do also have to remember, that there is clearly more going on behind the scenes than we are being told.

I'm sure it will all fall into place as its technically 3 players that want to move.


Other clubs are just starting to observe the waiting period :coffee:

Cripps
30-01-2018, 11:06 AM
We shouldnt be strengthening another rival.

KSE Comedy Club
30-01-2018, 11:27 AM
Agreed.

I would rather keep Giroud and tell Dortmund to take the money and worry about their replacement on their own time. They have players anyway as they have managed to play with Auba a few times already.

But that aint gonna happen.

Power n Glory
30-01-2018, 11:42 AM
We shouldnt be strengthening another rival.

Crazy stuff. This season alone, if we sell Giroud to Chelsea, we'd have sold our top 3 goal scorers to rival English clubs.

We could have avoided this Giroud situation... but surely those critical of Sanchez for moving to Man Utd have to hold Giroud to the same standard. It's worse because Giroud had a choice between Dortmund and Chelsea from the sounds of it and he's choosing Chelsea despite the fact that he may be on the bench there as well.

GP
30-01-2018, 12:02 PM
It's not the same situation at all. Not even close. Come on.

Özim
30-01-2018, 12:18 PM
If someone does sign him they have this to look forward to


https://youtu.be/UNpHOr4NnPw

Power n Glory
30-01-2018, 01:18 PM
It's not the same situation at all. Not even close. Come on.

I didn't say it was the same situation. I'm saying those critical of Sanchez moving to Utd should probably hold the same stance for Giroud. To me, it looks worse. If Giroud is moving for first team football, why move to Chelsea instead of Dortmund?

Globalgunner
30-01-2018, 01:37 PM
I didn't say it was the same situation. I'm saying those critical of Sanchez moving to Utd should probably hold the same stance for Giroud. To me, it looks worse. If Giroud is moving for first team football, why move to Chelsea instead of Dortmund?

You forgot the part where his missus ruled out moving to Dortmund.

Cripps
30-01-2018, 01:39 PM
Aubergine has been video'd at the airport catching a flight somewhere...

https://twitter.com/RN_Florian/status/958314081546629120

Niall_Quinn
30-01-2018, 01:42 PM
I didn't say it was the same situation. I'm saying those critical of Sanchez moving to Utd should probably hold the same stance for Giroud. To me, it looks worse. If Giroud is moving for first team football, why move to Chelsea instead of Dortmund?

Doesn't sound like Bif wants to move at all, but he has no choice if he wants game time enough to get into the world cup squad and he's clearly #3 at Arsenal if Aubameyang arrives. Sounds like it's very much for football reasons and I haven't heard a mention of money or demands - except from Arsenal of course, over the fee. Which this time I agree with. In this market Giroud is easily worth 35-40 mill. Easily. But, as others have said, he's not worth that to us if it ends up scuppering the Auba move.

Way back at the start of the window the papers knew the fee for Auba was 53mill. We've ended up agreeing 53-54 mill. Having dragged the whole thing out until the last minute. Why did we do that? What was the 45mill bid all about? If this deal falls through the entire blame sits on Arsenal.

Power n Glory
30-01-2018, 02:17 PM
You forgot the part where his missus ruled out moving to Dortmund.

But he's OK going to a rival London club? It doesn't mean he has to leave. I get it's a complex situation but you always get a few hypocritical fans that are now quick to see the other side of the story when it involves their favourite player.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
30-01-2018, 02:18 PM
I agree with Emirates gooner....we should have pushed for a non conditional deal, though perhaps Dortmund were deliberately being obtuse. Leave Dortmund to sign their own players without us getting involved FFS.

I remember well, those criticising Sanchez and praising Giroud for loyalty last summer when in reality it is simply circumstances dictating heroes or villains. I'm not surprised Giroud is open to a move to Chelsea and I don't hate him for it neither.

I'd rather keep Giroud but if he has to be sold.....

Giroud is worth more than 15/20 million in this market but Sanchez is worth more than a Mhikitarayan in this market...even with a contract running down.

Marc Overmars
30-01-2018, 02:27 PM
I have no issue with Alexis moving to United and I would have no issue if Giroud went to Chelsea.

One guy was fed up here and who could blame him. The other needs to play football and if he can continue living where he is to appease his family then so be it.

It's the club who are choosing to strengthen a rival, the players are just doing their job.

HCZ
30-01-2018, 02:29 PM
Auba on a private jet into London

He’s not doing a Odemwingie is he?

Cripps
30-01-2018, 02:46 PM
He's at the training ground apparently

Someone tell Giroud's butterz wife to get a grip.

Globalgunner
30-01-2018, 02:50 PM
I have no issue with Alexis moving to United and I would have no issue if Giroud went to Chelsea.

One guy was fed up here and who could blame him. The other needs to play football and if he can continue living where he is to appease his family then so be it.

It's the club who are choosing to strengthen a rival, the players are just doing their job.

We are strengthening every team in Europe by keeping Wumger TBF.....We are the only team in football history to have been annexed by its manager. Imagine if Wenger had enough money to buy this club....he would never leave, take stem cell tablets until he was 150 yrs old

Globalgunner
30-01-2018, 02:52 PM
He's at the training ground apparently

Someone tell Giroud's butterz wife to get a grip.

We could save a few bob by using the same priivate jet to take Giroud to Germany.

Dein-machine
30-01-2018, 03:03 PM
Why are people concerned about Giroud going to Chelsea. It wont strengthen them - like he hasnt strengthened us. Having said that I'd rather get rid of the even more shitter Welbz.
finally after years of gooners telling the old fraudster that you cant polish turds - he has finally woken up to the the fact that Ox, Theo, & Giroud were simply never good enough. He could throw Ramsey, Welbz, Xhaka & Iwobi into the fire aswell because again - they are not good enough & the old goat will only see that in about 2021, when he's considering another 2 year contract.
With Auba we go into back end of this season looking promising as an attacking force but very vulnerable at the back. TBF a startign line up of Cech, Bellend, Monreal, Mustafi, Kos, Xhaka, Jack, Mikhi, Ozil, Lancazette & Auba is actually our strongest starting 11 for a long time but we have absolutley zero back up on the bench, especially in defence. The thought of having to play Merts, Holding or Chambers is horrifying & we should not be in that position.

GP
30-01-2018, 03:12 PM
You forgot the part where his missus ruled out moving to Dortmund.

Pregnant wife. Doesn't want to leave London. It's understandable.

LDG
30-01-2018, 03:15 PM
Aubergine has been video'd at the airport catching a flight somewhere...

https://twitter.com/RN_Florian/status/958314081546629120

FlightTracker have confirmed that there are 32,000 people following this private jet from Dortmund to London.

Arsenal fans are unstoppable. #Aubameyang

:haha:

Niall_Quinn
30-01-2018, 03:17 PM
Pregnant wife. Doesn't want to leave London. It's understandable.

Why doesn't John Terry go with them then?

Power n Glory
30-01-2018, 03:29 PM
I agree with Emirates gooner....we should have pushed for a non conditional deal, though perhaps Dortmund were deliberately being obtuse. Leave Dortmund to sign their own players without us getting involved FFS.

I remember well, those criticising Sanchez and praising Giroud for loyalty last summer when in reality it is simply circumstances dictating heroes or villains. I'm not surprised Giroud is open to a move to Chelsea and I don't hate him for it neither.

I'd rather keep Giroud but if he has to be sold.....

Giroud is worth more than 15/20 million in this market but Sanchez is worth more than a Mhikitarayan in this market...even with a contract running down.

The club have handled this badly and we're in situation now where we're having to give a rival a decent player who will help them bag some points this season. I can see Giroud doing well at Chelsea if he gets game time. Control has an idea of the type of player he wants so he'll play to his strengths.

Nothing against Bif if he left. In fact, we need him to leave in order to gain a player.

Power n Glory
30-01-2018, 03:36 PM
Pregnant wife. Doesn't want to leave London. It's understandable.

That's the life of a footballer. Every player has reason for their decisions and some of it is valid. But fans often ignore that part.

Think of Sanchez's dogs! Having to leave their London home....poor things.

HCZ
30-01-2018, 03:36 PM
For me we should not be selling Giroud, I think having him and Aubemeyang in the squad should be the desired outcome if we are looking to improve because Giroud gives us something extra and despite his limitations has got a ton for us

This ridiculous situation has come about from trying to talk Dortmund into a lower fee and then caving

You either stick to your guns or you accept that’s the price you’re going to pay earlier. If we’d agreed a price a week ago we wouldn’t have this nonsense.

I would appreciate it if we had stuck to our guns on the price but to cave at such a late stage and maybe not getting our man anyway. Wow that’s really inept.

GP
30-01-2018, 03:45 PM
That's the life of a footballer. Every player has reason for their decisions and some of it is valid. But fans often ignore that part.

Think of Sanchez's dogs! Having to leave their London home....poor things.

Those dogs are cunts.

Cripps
30-01-2018, 04:14 PM
LATEST: Aubameyang medical pencilled for Wed AM. Earlier today all set for Batshuayi loan to Dortmund, Giroud to Chelsea for £20m. But #CFC via Marina Granovskaia now trying to drive price down so #AFC minded to end talks & send Giroud to #BVB - though unclear if he’d agree to it https://t.co/R9jAnVdk0f

Forcing Giroud to Dortmund :haha:

Ruthless Arsenal :bow:

Cripps
30-01-2018, 04:16 PM
Manchester City make £50million bid for Leicester winger Riyad Mahrez https://t.co/cJxx2bikso via @MailSport

£50m on Mahrez but not willing to spend on Sanchez:haha: :doh:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
30-01-2018, 04:27 PM
The club have handled this badly and we're in situation now where we're having to give a rival a decent player who will help them bag some points this season. I can see Giroud doing well at Chelsea if he gets game time. Control has an idea of the type of player he wants so he'll play to his strengths.

Nothing against Bif if he left. In fact, we need him to leave in order to gain a player.

Yup...he will do well. He's scored as many goals as Ole Gunnar Solskjaer off the bench who really was seen as a supersub. It irks how easily we allow this to happen. If you're going to strengthen a direct rival it really should only be for a kings ransom and when you have the upper hand on them already in the league.

Power n Glory
30-01-2018, 04:40 PM
LATEST: Aubameyang medical pencilled for Wed AM. Earlier today all set for Batshuayi loan to Dortmund, Giroud to Chelsea for £20m. But #CFC via Marina Granovskaia now trying to drive price down so #AFC minded to end talks & send Giroud to #BVB - though unclear if he’d agree to it https://t.co/R9jAnVdk0f

Forcing Giroud to Dortmund :haha:

Ruthless Arsenal :bow:

So long as the medical is the Emirates and not Stamford Bridge. Imagine if Dortmund and Chelsea just decided to swap their strikers and cut us out of the process entirely.

Marc Overmars
30-01-2018, 04:41 PM
Manchester City make £50million bid for Leicester winger Riyad Mahrez https://t.co/cJxx2bikso via @MailSport

£50m on Mahrez but not willing to spend on Sanchez:haha: :doh:

:wacko:

Pep said he was restrained by their budget. Laughable.

Cripps
30-01-2018, 04:52 PM
John cross reporting a breakthrough:

Chelsea believe they have struck an £18m deal for Olivier Giroud - paving the way for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang to join Arsenal for £60m. More @MirrorFootball

Always one step forward two steps back with this fucking club.

KSE Comedy Club
30-01-2018, 05:05 PM
Obviously it would be nice if he could stay but he's not been that good for us either, if we are honest.

He will get them a few goals, of course he will. but it won't be that many I'll bet.

Conte just wanted a big target man but with no real target in mind, just look at their previous inquiries this month.

Özim
30-01-2018, 05:47 PM
:wacko:

Pep said he was restrained by their budget. Laughable.

They've just bought Laporte for 57 million, no wasting time lowballing with them at least!

Thing is we could spend a lot more than we do, so far we'll still be in the black on net spend which is why it amazes me people are still happy enough with our business.

I would expect us to spend big in the summer because we can afford to, we won't of course, we'll make excuses if we resign Jack and Ozil that our budget went on that.

Özim
30-01-2018, 05:49 PM
Obviously it would be nice if he could stay but he's not been that good for us either, if we are honest.

He will get them a few goals, of course he will. but it won't be that many I'll bet.

Conte just wanted a big target man but with no real target in mind, just look at their previous inquiries this month.

I agree, seems to me that Wenger is just after top 4 nothing else, we won't win the Europa and get the CL spot due to the teams in there and the fact Aubameyang can't play in that, so that leaves Lacazette and Welbeck.

KSE Comedy Club
30-01-2018, 06:34 PM
Leicester have said that £50m doesn’t meet their valuation and they won’t be selling at that price!

:lol::lol:

HCZ
30-01-2018, 06:36 PM
Leicester have said that £50m doesn’t meet their valuation and they won’t be selling at that price!

:lol::lol:

50 million easily matches what Ahmedinijad is worth, but then Leicester have to replace him

Cripps
30-01-2018, 07:11 PM
Coming out of another transfer window with an overwhelming feeling of disappointment.

We've let 198 goals leave the club for rival clubs.

We've let our best player join Utd, who will now be spurred on for a serious title challenge next season. It wouldn't surprise me if we look back at this moment as another RVP moment.

We've given Chelsea a player they need; a big, tall, strong, plan B target man. And to top it off, we've let them have Giroud for a measly fee.

The board seem so fixated on making the most out of every £ because of this sustainable model. I understand the need to be lean and efficient but our squad is too lean. We made a lean squad even leaner.

It always seems like 1 step forward 2 steps back with this club. The Giroud sale was a step too far, and certainly to another top 4 rival. We are always shooting ourselves in the foot.

Not happy.

McNamara That Ghost...
30-01-2018, 07:27 PM
Over 300 goals if you consider Theo has gone to Everton too.

I agree, I'm not impressed with this. Perhaps it's improving the starting XI but there's no real substantive benefit for the squad unless he gives the younger ones more of a bench chance, which is unlikely.

£18 million for a (near) 20 goal a season striker is just nonsense, especially when you consider his worth with all the late goals he contributes..

McNamara That Ghost...
30-01-2018, 07:31 PM
Leicester have said that £50m doesn’t meet their valuation and they won’t be selling at that price!

:lol::lol:

They aren't playing fair, Pep has no money.

Gooner23
30-01-2018, 07:38 PM
Over 300 goals if you consider Theo has gone to Everton too.

I agree, I'm not impressed with this. Perhaps it's improving the starting XI but there's no real substantive benefit for the squad unless he gives the younger ones more of a bench chance, which is unlikely.

£18 million for a (near) 20 goal a season striker is just nonsense, especially when you consider his worth with all the late goals he contributes..

I don't really get it either to be honest. It seems like a very Arsenal thing to get into this king of situation. If we'd not dithered over meeting Aubas fee would Dortmund have had enough time to find another replacement that didn't involve Giroud?

Özim
30-01-2018, 07:45 PM
We give a whole new meaning to balancing the books, balancing for us is not spending a penny we've earnt.

It'll be 4 out 2 in and one of them we didn't even need, Walcott should have been replaced with a winger (Moura comes to mind) and we needed to get a DM in and a longer term CB (Evans just isn't the answer in a couple years he'll be done and he's not all that in the 1st place).

Disappointing again (isn't it always with Wenger in charge), too little too late once again, I suspect quite a few fans will get caught up in the Aubameyang hype.

Marc Overmars
30-01-2018, 07:46 PM
Wenker is doing Giroud a favour by giving him an easy way out. That's the only explanation.

Shaqiri Is Boss
30-01-2018, 07:48 PM
They aren't playing fair, Pep has no money.

Incredible how he has improved these £50m players.

They've spent over £200m this season alone. £168m the season before, £150m the season before that. :wacko:

Özim
30-01-2018, 07:50 PM
Wenker is doing Giroud a favour by giving him an easy way out. That's the only explanation.

He has a tendency of doing that for players he has a soft spot for, has done it in the past (Cesc comes to mind), he might make money but he loses it in other ways. We're over a barrel with this one as we left it so late (as usual) and now we're left with little choice but to sell Giroud for cheap or we won't get Aubameyang. This club is a embarrassment tbh.

McNamara That Ghost...
30-01-2018, 07:57 PM
Incredible how he has improved these £50m players.

They've spent over £200m this season alone. £168m the season before, £150m the season before that. :wacko:

They're operating to a budget, clearly. :lol:

Marc Overmars
30-01-2018, 07:58 PM
Incredible how he has improved these £50m players.

They've spent over £200m this season alone. £168m the season before, £150m the season before that. :wacko:

The majority of their starting line up is made up of players ranging between 30-60m.

Amazing how they've done so well this season...

Cripps
30-01-2018, 08:33 PM
Mathieu Debuchy has agreed to join St Etienne and will complete transfer in the coming hours. Has six months left on contract but Arsenal letting him go for free

More money saving... yay

Niall_Quinn
30-01-2018, 08:36 PM
Blimey. This could be a very profitable transfer window. One of the best yet.

Marc Overmars
30-01-2018, 09:00 PM
City have apparently increased their bid for Mahrez to 55m.

Shameless.

He’s also handed in a transfer request.

Penguin
30-01-2018, 09:06 PM
But they aren't going to lose him for nothing as an offer is on the table that they have agreed to. They have dropped him twice this season and the directors want him gone from the club, so their stance of only letting him leave if they find a replacement is stupid as we would be in the same situation on the 1st as we are in now - waiting for them to find a replacement.

I know time scale is a factor but it doesn't change the circumstances of the situation.

Ideally everyone wants to find a replacement, but most clubs sell, then start shopping.

They don't need to sell right now. Aubameyang is tied down to a long term contract, they can wait until the summer when they will have more options for replacements and possibly drive up more interest in Auba.

If we had a bid accepted at the start of the window they would know they had £60m in the bank to play with. We've been lowballing all window and only had a bid accepted on 29th January. Why should they take the money and hope they can sign someone in two days? The only club that would do that is Arsenal.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 10:30 AM
We announced Auba too early this morning on Arsenal player, then had to take it down :lol:

We are so incompetent!

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 10:40 AM
It seems like he’s as good as ours but there are still reports that Dortmund won’t sign off the deal on their end without a replacement.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 10:48 AM
Batshit was flying out to Dortmund this morning for a medical, so I am sure its just a matter of time.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 10:53 AM
I say we make sure Batshit has signed for Dortmund and then pull the plug on the Giroud deal, leaving Chelsea in the shit.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 10:57 AM
I say we make sure Batshit has signed for Dortmund and then pull the plug on the Giroud deal, leaving Chelsea in the shit.

Now that would be hilarious :lol:

Ralpheroo72
31-01-2018, 11:13 AM
Dortmund agree to sell Aubameyang to Arsenal

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 11:17 AM
It’s done.

https://twitter.com/arsenal/status/958659406224379904

LDG
31-01-2018, 11:19 AM
We announced Auba too early this morning on Arsenal player, then had to take it down :lol:

We are so incompetent!

Too eager to appease the hordes of fuming fans post Swansea.

We really are a fucking mess

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 11:19 AM
:patrice:

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 11:23 AM
Right, so that's done.

Who's next?

What's the odds for any last minute deals?
There's still time to sell a few players for that lovely, lovely money

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 11:25 AM
Quick, now's the time to do what MO said and pull the plug on Giroud's transfer!

Batshit has had his medical!

LDG
31-01-2018, 11:26 AM
Right, so that's done.

Who's next?

What's the odds for any last minute deals?
There's still time to sell a few players for that lovely, lovely money


Two chances. Fuck and all.

We should be signing a GK, CB and a CM.

Ps. Lets pull the plug on Giroud.

Gooner23
31-01-2018, 12:18 PM
Ozil has signed on.

Gooner23
31-01-2018, 12:19 PM
Ornstein has announced it ahead of the official Arsenal announcement :lol:

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 12:20 PM
350k a week. :wacko:

Well done to the club for sorting this out.

GP
31-01-2018, 12:21 PM
Mesut Ozil!!! What a signing!

GP
31-01-2018, 12:21 PM
350k a week. :wacko:

Only 100k a week less than Sanchez.

AFC Leveller
31-01-2018, 12:27 PM
What a signing OZILLLLLL!!!!!

Love the guy

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 12:30 PM
Sense of relief. Finally a bit of stability and we can begin to look forward, hopefully we can salvage something from this dire season.

Özim
31-01-2018, 12:31 PM
Great news, amazing what signing a top player does, convinces other players things are happening!

Top player, glad we're not losing him on a free, no coincidence he signs on around the time Aubameyang is signed up. Again though you had to ask why he would sign up when he had his pick of clubs in the summer, good on him though!

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 12:34 PM
Like a new signing

What's the trademark code, I can never rememeber :sulk:

Cripps
31-01-2018, 12:38 PM
A big critic of Ozil in the past but I'm glad he's staying. Seeing how utterly hopeless we are without him and the lack of fluidity, I am glad he's staying. He makes us tick.

Also 350k? No more excuses about not being able to compete with other clubs financially then :tiphat:

dostoy
31-01-2018, 12:40 PM
Does anyone get the impression that Wenger does not want Aubameyang ?

His situation at Dortmund must have been desperate for him to want to come here.

Also, why does Ozil want to stay here ?

I guess the answer to both of them wanting to be here is one word and that word is NOT trophies.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 12:41 PM
Okay where is Ozil's signing being announced?

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 12:41 PM
Great news, amazing what signing a top player does, convinces other players things are happening!

Top player, glad we're not losing him on a free, no coincidence he signs on around the time Aubameyang is signed up. Again though you had to ask why he would sign up when he had his pick of clubs in the summer, good on him though!

I think he's very settled in London. I always felt he was the most likely to stay out of him and Alexis, the fact there wasn't really a lot of intense speculation about where he'd go said a lot. It was probably just down to the club to sweeten the deal by making him top dog financially and also enticing him to play with guys like Mkhi and Auba.

Very pleased we've sorted this out, I think it would have killed the reputation of the club to have him walk out off the back of Alexis.

Now just need a new manager to bring this all together...

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 12:42 PM
Okay where is Ozil's signing being announced?

It's not official yet but Ornstein has tweeted that it's done.

HCZ
31-01-2018, 12:44 PM
It’s no “Wenger retiring at end of season” or “Kroenke and Usmanov dead in murder suicide pact” but you take what good news you can get.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 12:44 PM
Does anyone get the impression that Wenger does not want Aubameyang ?

His situation at Dortmund must have been desperate for him to want to come here.

Also, why does Ozil want to stay here ?

I guess the answer to both of them wanting to be here is one word and that word is NOT trophies.

SAS:bow:

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 12:47 PM
It’s no “Wenger retiring at end of season” or “Kroenke and Usmanov dead in murder suicide pact” but you take what good news you can get.

So none of that happened then? You are sure?

Bit disappointing. I had hoped that would happen.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 12:47 PM
What a morning :bow:

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 12:50 PM
Zlatan off to the LA Galaxy, apparently. One last big pay day.

GP
31-01-2018, 12:52 PM
Does anyone get the impression that Wenger does not want Aubameyang ?

No. Why wouldn't he?

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 12:52 PM
Does anyone get the impression that Wenger does not want Aubameyang ?

His situation at Dortmund must have been desperate for him to want to come here.

Also, why does Ozil want to stay here ?

I guess the answer to both of them wanting to be here is one word and that word is NOT trophies.

He got fed up waiting for Marketing.....and no alternatives aggressively pursued him last summer. He can't wait forever as the biggest clubs simply turn their attention to the younger top talents like, Mbappe, Dembele etc etc etc.

Ozil is clearly just settled and fortunately has basically already won it all in football. Wenger also allows him his secret winter break every year. What other manager will indulge him like that?

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 12:53 PM
He got fed up waiting for Marketing.....and no alternatives aggressively pursued him last summer. He can't wait forever as the biggest clubs simply turn their attention to the younger top quality like, Mbappe, Dembele etc etc etc.

Ozil is clearly just settled and fortunately has basically already won it all in football. Wenger also allows him his secret winter break every year. What other manager will indulge him like that?

Scandalous! It's not a winter break. He's genuinely ill.

Özim
31-01-2018, 12:54 PM
I think he's very settled in London. I always felt he was the most likely to stay out of him and Alexis, the fact there wasn't really a lot of intense speculation about where he'd go said a lot. It was probably just down to the club to sweeten the deal by making him top dog financially and also enticing him to play with guys like Mkhi and Auba.

Very pleased we've sorted this out, I think it would have killed the reputation of the club to have him walk out off the back of Alexis.

Now just need a new manager to bring this all together...

Yeah I'm pleased as well, he's a key player.

Yup new manager, won't get my hopes up on this one, which in turn means we won't be challenging for much in the near future.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 12:58 PM
Still no news on Giroud.

Gary Cotterill has been told that if the deal doesn't go through or there is still some debate about the price then Chavs won't let Batshit join Dortmund.

We maybe in the clear :lol:

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 12:59 PM
Still no news on Giroud.

Gary Cotterill has been told that if the deal doesn't go through or there is still some debate about the price then Chavs won't let Batshit join Dortmund.

We maybe in the clear :lol:

Imagine if we screw Chelsea and Dortmund.. :haha:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 01:00 PM
Scandalous! It's not a winter break. He's genuinely ill.

You are the king of these theories and I'm usually sceptical....but even I have started to believe that one!

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 01:02 PM
Imagine if we screw Chelsea and Dortmund.. :haha:

I know, I will laugh HARD :haha:

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 01:05 PM
Ballagayboy did say the other day that we were looking at other deals on top of Auba signing.

Maybe a defender? christ knows we need a new one or two!

Gooner23
31-01-2018, 01:07 PM
It's not official yet but Ornstein has tweeted that it's done.

Arsenal sent out a teasing tweet saying they had more big news to follow very soon. And almost straight away Orstein announced he had signed on. Even our media team can't get it right!

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 01:08 PM
When Guillem first came out with this.... a lot of people doubted him, me included. I don't think he is as full as crap as people say at times so fair play to him.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 01:09 PM
Sky reckon Evans isn't going anywhere. Pardew wants to keep him.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 01:11 PM
Why not just get Luiz on loan and send Giroud the other way.

I wonder if we can flog Xhaka too...

Gooner23
31-01-2018, 01:11 PM
You are the king of these theories and I'm usually sceptical....but even I have started to believe that one!

I think he probably had a few clauses in his contract as at the time we were absolutely desperate for a big signing.

I was convinced he had something about being guarenteed 90 minutes in the Prem matches.

Bumble
31-01-2018, 01:12 PM
Sky reckon Evans isn't going anywhere. Pardew wants to keep him.

Money talks and he probably hasn't played in the Europa league before.

Bumble
31-01-2018, 01:13 PM
Why not just get Luiz on loan and send Giroud the other way.

I wonder if we can flog Xhaka too...
flog xhaka yes.... sign Luiz no not convinced he would help us defensively.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 01:15 PM
Money talks and he probably hasn't played in the Europa league before.

Are you new here?

We have NO money, we are the poorest, cash rich club in all of football :lol:

Bumble
31-01-2018, 01:20 PM
Are you new here?

We have NO money, we are the poorest, cash rich club in all of football :lol:

Good point.... although we have spent over £100m on 2 experienced forwards and yet spent about £4m on 2 young defenders.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 01:48 PM
flog xhaka yes.... sign Luiz no not convinced he would help us defensively.

I think he was in no small part a reason for their title last season. I can't remember if it was the first game we played Chelsea this season ....but I remember Luiz being the best player for them. I think Conte is a little like Mourinho in that when he falls out with people he makes reconciliation awkward, hence why Luiz is on the bench but should be starting. He got rid of Costa and hey...I get why, but Costa would have absolutely buried us on more than one occasion if they still had him this season. In fact, I think the entire narrative around them might be very different this season if they still had him.

Luiz is a good passer out of the backline, as athletic as CB's come, and can obviously play in a 3, 4 or 5 so I think we could do a lot worse than sign him, but I will concede he needs to be used properly and play in a system where the individuals know what their roles are otherwise he'll probably look a clown as he has done in the past.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 02:01 PM
I would have Luiz here if the opportunity came about. Certainly if the alternative is Evans.

I think our defensive issues go way beyond one or two individuals though. There needs to be an entire shift in mentality on how we defend as a unit, the porous midfield is the bigger problem.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 02:04 PM
There is a report going round that we paid Dortmund £1.3m for Batshit’s loan fee in order to get the Auba deal done. :lol:

Power n Glory
31-01-2018, 02:08 PM
flog xhaka yes.... sign Luiz no not convinced he would help us defensively.

Xhaka and Ramsey shouldn't be allowed to play together and they should be restricted to come on from the bench but not together. These two are detrimental to our midfield.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 02:13 PM
There is a report going round that we paid Dortmund £1.3m for Batshit’s loan fee in order to get the Auba deal done. :lol:

If that's true I fuhking applaud it!

AFC Leveller
31-01-2018, 02:15 PM
The club won't announce Ozil's contract extension today because they are currently re structuring the wage bill as his new contract has smashed it.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 02:17 PM
Xhaka and Ramsey shouldn't be allowed to play together and they should be restricted to come on from the bench but not together. These two are detrimental to our midfield.

He's frustrating at times but I can see what Ramsey can do and can at least reflect on what he has done in the past.

I constantly watch Xhaka and just wonder what on earth he is actually supposed to be doing. We're all frightened of playing Wilshere and Ramsey together because it didn't quite work in the past...but honestly, is it any better to have Xhaka, Ramsey?

Just a horrible signing.

Penguin
31-01-2018, 02:18 PM
I actually think Luiz would make us worse defensively. He's one of those headless chicken types of defenders who reacts to what he sees. If a striker drops deep Luiz will blindly follow him and leave a huge gap behind him. Although I suppose Koscielny is kind of like that too but at less of a scale. He;s not an upgrade on Koscielny or Mustafi he's just more of the same.

The type of defender we need is someone who knows exactly where to stand, what positions to take up and where all of his team mates should be. And the balls to shout at them when they are doing something wrong.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 02:24 PM
He is less injury prone than Koscielny and proven way more than Mustafi and has a league winners medal which he has over all of them so I'm not sure how you conclude he will make us worse defensively.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 02:29 PM
Seeing as Auba is done, I would hope that we’re making Chelsea sweat on Giroud. No reason why we shouldn’t at least be demanding more money or exploring the possibility of Luiz coming our way, if we fancy him.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 02:35 PM
He is less injury prone than Koscielny and proven way more than Mustafi and has a league winners medal which he has over all of them so I'm not sure how you conclude he will make us worse defensively.

Key member of a team that’s won the league and CL. He’s not anywhere near as bad as people suggest, his reputation from his early days at Chelsea has stuck.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 02:39 PM
Fuck Chelsea.

String them along then pull the plug at the last minute just like they did with Ba and Loic Remy.

GP
31-01-2018, 02:46 PM
Key member of a team that’s won the league and CL. He’s not anywhere near as bad as people suggest, his reputation from his early days at Chelsea has stuck.

My abiding memory of Luiz is that World Cup game.

Well, that and the time he stepped on all those rakes.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 02:47 PM
Well, that and the time he stepped on all those rakes.

:lol:

Penguin
31-01-2018, 03:11 PM
He is less injury prone than Koscielny and proven way more than Mustafi and has a league winners medal which he has over all of them so I'm not sure how you conclude he will make us worse defensively.

Just from the way he plays which I explained in my last post. He's a reactive defender.

If you stick Koscielny or Mustafi in an organised system they would look much better than they do now. Put Luiz in this Arsenal team and he'll get eaten alive.

selassie
31-01-2018, 03:14 PM
Fantastic news regarding Ozil and I honestly didn't expect it!

Lets hope we can build on him extending and the signing of Auba by complimenting them with top class midfield and defensive signings in the summer.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 03:27 PM
Just from the way he plays which I explained in my last post. He's a reactive defender.

If you stick Koscielny or Mustafi in an organised system they would look much better than they do now. Put Luiz in this Arsenal team and he'll get eaten alive.

My question was kind of rhetorical....

Fair enough though...I don't expect to convince you otherwise, but like Marc Overmars I think perception has been coloured with his earlier career mistakes.

A little like with the non Arsenal neutrals who still think Monreal is useless.

Globalgunner
31-01-2018, 03:29 PM
I heard we signed Trump also. Where will he play?. i hear he quite likes defence.

Globalgunner
31-01-2018, 03:37 PM
Just from the way he plays which I explained in my last post. He's a reactive defender.

If you stick Koscielny or Mustafi in an organised system they would look much better than they do now. Put Luiz in this Arsenal team and he'll get eaten alive.

Luiz is a better defender than all the morons we have at arsenal. For all his faults he has actually been coached in defence by managers who know what they are doing, which means we can get at most 3 months of service out of him before the rot sets in. the other asset he has is that he is not a fkn weakling who gets muscled off the ball by the likes of Jordan Ayewa a la Mustafi and Kosc. Our last solid defender was probably Sol Campbell and that was more than a decade ago. I actually would play Luiz in midfield instead of the deplorable Xhaka, he has all Xhaka`s minimal attributes such as occasional shooting and is not a brain addled automaton.

Our defensive issues actually have their root in our not fit for purpose midfield.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 03:46 PM
Citeh :haha:

£65m plus undisclosed player for Mahrez.....???

‘We have a budget that we must work to’

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 03:51 PM
Citeh :haha:

£65m plus undisclosed player for Mahrez.....???

‘We have a budget that we must work to’

It’s so shameless.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 04:11 PM
Alex Song has posted a picture of himself at the training ground.

He is a free agent at the moment - could we possibly sign him up again?

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/912313/Arsenal-transfer-news-Alex-Song-training-ground-deadline-day

GP
31-01-2018, 04:13 PM
Alex Song has posted a picture of himself at the training ground.

He is a free agent at the moment - could we possibly sign him up again?

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/912313/Arsenal-transfer-news-Alex-Song-training-ground-deadline-day

Alex Song is going to save us...







10% on line rental because he works in a call centre now.

HCZ
31-01-2018, 04:14 PM
I doubt that....Wenger hates him

Power n Glory
31-01-2018, 04:17 PM
Alex Song has posted a picture of himself at the training ground.

He is a free agent at the moment - could we possibly sign him up again?

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/912313/Arsenal-transfer-news-Alex-Song-training-ground-deadline-day

We should. Xhaka has to be the worst midfielder we've signed under Wenger.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 04:26 PM
I'd prefer him to Xhaka and Song and Wilshere have formed a decent partnership before....

Power n Glory
31-01-2018, 04:31 PM
He's frustrating at times but I can see what Ramsey can do and can at least reflect on what he has done in the past.

I constantly watch Xhaka and just wonder what on earth he is actually supposed to be doing. We're all frightened of playing Wilshere and Ramsey together because it didn't quite work in the past...but honestly, is it any better to have Xhaka, Ramsey?

Just a horrible signing.

He should be sold next summer. Whoever scouted him and recommended him should be sacked. Wenger should be sacked for playing him week in week out and if he starts again against Everton.....

I remember a former poster, Mastermind would argue that buying Xhaka would free up Ozil and Ramsey to create and go forward because Xhaka was supposed to have it all in his locker. 100% wrong about that. Xhaka isn't suited to this league and he's a burden to whoever is partnered with him. I can't think of a single combination that would work well with him in the team. You'd need someone that has the ability to do the job over two players.

I hear you on Ramsey. He's one dimensional but you at least know what he can create space for our forwards with his runs and get goals. I just wouldn't put him in the midfield. I really don't know why so many players lack self awareness in this squad. If Ramsey made it his first priority to build play from the middle and protect the defence, he'd be a really good player.

Gooner23
31-01-2018, 04:32 PM
We should. Xhaka has to be the worst midfielder we've signed under Wenger.

Has to be up there as the worst. Certainly pound for pound.

I hated Denilson but he was a cheap youngster when we got him. Kallstrom with a broken back is up there, but Xhaka takes it for me.

Power n Glory
31-01-2018, 04:46 PM
Has to be up there as the worst. Certainly pound for pound.

I hated Denilson but he was a cheap youngster when we got him. Kallstrom with a broken back is up there, but Xhaka takes it for me.

Worse than Denilson and I hated that guy too. There were one or two highlight reel standout moments of lazy defending from Denilson but Xhaka has surpassed those moments in one season....and the season isn't even other. It's not even a lazy attempt to jog back, he's not even making an attempt to stop his man. It's that blatant.

Gooner23
31-01-2018, 04:53 PM
Giroud to Chelsea confirmed. Bit gutted about that one to be honest.

The Emirates Gallactico
31-01-2018, 04:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU4ecgEX4AENOqU.jpg

:sick:

HCZ
31-01-2018, 04:55 PM
Giroud to Chelsea confirmed. Bit gutted about that one to be honest.

Yeah same.

dostoy
31-01-2018, 04:56 PM
I am sad to see this.

Would he have moved if it was not world cup year ?

The Emirates Gallactico
31-01-2018, 04:58 PM
I am sad to see this.

Would he have moved if it was not world cup year ?

If he really cared about the WC he'd have moved to Dortmund.

All he's done is swap our bench for Chelsea's. At this stage of his career it seems it's more family & personal reasons motivating him.

GP
31-01-2018, 04:59 PM
Giroud to Chelsea confirmed. Bit gutted about that one to be honest.

Me too. I'm actually more upset about this than Alexis leaving.

I love Oli, not ashamed to say it.

Gooner23
31-01-2018, 05:01 PM
I think he knows he'll have no chance competing against Auba and Laca where as he'll only have an underperforming Morata ahead of him at Chelsea.

That's another of our rivals we've strengthened though.

The Emirates Gallactico
31-01-2018, 05:06 PM
To quote Arse2Mouse about the Auba deal:

"Club record signing confirmed but such is the state of the management at the club that I find it hard to feel any enthusiam. Contrast with the Ozil and Sanchez signings when I was basically delirious at the announcement."

Basically sums up my feelings.


He should be sold next summer. Whoever scouted him and recommended him should be sacked. Wenger should be sacked for playing him week in week out and if he starts again against Everton.....

I remember a former poster, Mastermind would argue that buying Xhaka would free up Ozil and Ramsey to create and go forward because Xhaka was supposed to have it all in his locker. 100% wrong about that. Xhaka isn't suited to this league and he's a burden to whoever is partnered with him. I can't think of a single combination that would work well with him in the team. You'd need someone that has the ability to do the job over two players.

I hear you on Ramsey. He's one dimensional but you at least know what he can create space for our forwards with his runs and get goals. I just wouldn't put him in the midfield. I really don't know why so many players lack self awareness in this squad. If Ramsey made it his first priority to build play from the middle and protect the defence, he'd be a really good player.

I'll be honest I was one of the early defenders of him and I was ecstatic when we signed him but yeah there's no defending him anymore - what a crock of shit we've got on our hands.

Part of me still feels there's a good player in there and with some coaching (at Arsenal lol) he could be a decent player but it's time we cut our losses and stop persisting with him. He's not going to make it here and the longer we try to make it work the more determinant it'll have to the team.

HCZ
31-01-2018, 05:10 PM
Now that Robert Terwilliger is staying at Chelsea

Apparently if we sign anyone now it will be Kostas Manolas

AFC Leveller
31-01-2018, 05:13 PM
Loved Giroud and he was a genuine gooner as well.

Don't think he will be booed though because most gooners loved him.

Power n Glory
31-01-2018, 05:22 PM
Loved Giroud and he was a genuine gooner as well.

Don't think he will be booed though because most gooners loved him.

Can he really be a genuine Gooner if he's going to play for Chelsea? I heard West Ham wanted him too.

You do what you've got to do in life so won't hold it against him. We needed him to make that move so we could get Aubameyang too.

HCZ
31-01-2018, 05:28 PM
Yeah I tend to agree, I don’t buy into this “Genuine Gooner” stuff

That kind of one club loyalty very rarely exists in footballers anymore. I am sad that he’s gone especially to Chelsea plus I think we’ve taken a massive risk in divesting ourselves of three players who have scored 293 goals between them and replaced them with one good goal scorer and a midfielder.

Defence is defence but we are really struggling for goals this season especially away from the Emirates. 23 goals in 19 games this season.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 05:41 PM
Shame on the club for doing Chelsea a favour.

I'm not particularly sad to see him go but I wish Giroud well, he was a good servant for us. Scored some truly great goals.

Özim
31-01-2018, 05:55 PM
Not too bothered about him going tbh he's 31 and never been a great goalscorer, bit more concerned at the fact we've got rid of 5 players this season from our squad (4 this January) and only brough 2 in to replace them, especially given our need for defensive players.

Club doing the absolute bare minimum again, we're not far off brak even this January alone and we haven't even spent the money from Ox.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 06:11 PM
He should be sold next summer. Whoever scouted him and recommended him should be sacked. Wenger should be sacked for playing him week in week out and if he starts again against Everton.....

I remember a former poster, Mastermind would argue that buying Xhaka would free up Ozil and Ramsey to create and go forward because Xhaka was supposed to have it all in his locker. 100% wrong about that. Xhaka isn't suited to this league and he's a burden to whoever is partnered with him. I can't think of a single combination that would work well with him in the team. You'd need someone that has the ability to do the job over two players.

I hear you on Ramsey. He's one dimensional but you at least know what he can create space for our forwards with his runs and get goals. I just wouldn't put him in the midfield. I really don't know why so many players lack self awareness in this squad. If Ramsey made it his first priority to build play from the middle and protect the defence, he'd be a really good player.

I was actually pondering that exact thought in bed this morning! :lol:

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 06:14 PM
He must have been a Rowley signing or worse still, a recommendation from that crappy stat software we invested in.

Thank fuck we’ve got some proper football men on board now.

The Emirates Gallactico
31-01-2018, 06:17 PM
He did the best with the talent he had which is more said than some of the other wastemen at the club. Wasn't his fault that Wenger kept him as the main or only striker at the club for so many years.

Nothing but good wishes for him and it's testament to how well he did that he's still well regarded by the vast majority of the fanbase despite his departure. He's only on an 18 month contract at Chelsea so who knows where he'll be then.

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 06:20 PM
Citeh :haha:

£65m plus undisclosed player for Mahrez.....???

‘We have a budget that we must work to’

Leicester agreed to taking an undisclosed player? How do they know they haven't been lumbered with Sterling? Risky in the extreme.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 06:23 PM
I just don't get it on any level having seen him now.....just completely the wrong profile of player for any combination we could muster. On his best day, he has one redeeming feature which is the Hollywood passes which deserted him ages ago.

I am bothered by the Giroud sale and yet again we are strengthening a rival. Everybody is for sale at this club apart from the fuhking manager and the the odious majority owner.

So our plan B can now be the blunt instrument that is Welbeck or blindly throwing every forward on we have or sending Mertesacker up front.

Shame we won't be selling Xhaka to Spurs/Liverpool/City....but that wouldn't necessarily strengthen them so it will never happen.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
31-01-2018, 06:26 PM
If Guardiola seriously wanted Xhaka then I never want him near our club. Perhaps it was just his Djemba Djemba / Kleberson moment.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 06:28 PM
I think we’re undergoing our biggest transition since the Emirates move. Modern football men working above Wenger, big money spent on players who wouldn’t necessarily fit Wenger’s profile, long serving players being moved on, it’s all very...different.

Hope this is the beginning of the end of Wenger’s tenure.

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 06:32 PM
If he really cared about the WC he'd have moved to Dortmund.

All he's done is swap our bench for Chelsea's. At this stage of his career it seems it's more family & personal reasons motivating him.

Doubt it. He's better than anything they have. That Morata bloke is shite. And Batshit has gone now. Can't think of who else they have. All turds. Giroud is their number one now I would think. He'll get plenty of goals there because they have a manager who is not a complete fucking tool and he'll say shit like, "get in the box", rather than, "97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll."

HCZ
31-01-2018, 06:34 PM
Doubt it. He's better than anything they have. That Morata bloke is shite. And Batshit has gone now. Can't think of who else they have. All turds. Giroud is their number one now I would think. He'll get plenty of goals there because they have a manager who is not a complete fucking tool and he'll say shit like, "get in the box", rather than, "97X, bam! The future of rock 'n' roll."

:haha:

I love me some obscure references

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 06:41 PM
Spurs sign Lucas Moura. Interesting to see how he does, always felt he was a decent player.

HCZ
31-01-2018, 06:50 PM
Jeff going out on loan

I forgot all about him to be honest

McNamara That Ghost...
31-01-2018, 07:22 PM
It's Jim White evening. Sky can't be even arsed this year though as they have the Soccer Special on instead. :lol:

Sky are quoting Mahrez's mate that he's unhappy he can't go to Citeh. :haha:

Cripps
31-01-2018, 07:44 PM
Merse: "But Aubameyang's 29, how much longer has he got left"

Guy next to him: "yeah he's 29"

Aubameyang is 28 you dumb, false information spreading twats.

McNamara That Ghost...
31-01-2018, 07:46 PM
And being 29 automatically makes you 35 it seems.

Asking who got the better deal out of Aubameyang to Arsenal and Bif to Chelsea. :sarcy:

Isn't it likely Morata will still be the starter?

Özim
31-01-2018, 07:46 PM
Spurs sign Lucas Moura. Interesting to see how he does, always felt he was a decent player.

Me too very good winger, shame we were never in for him.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 07:54 PM
And being 29 automatically makes you 35 it seems.

Asking who got the better deal out of Aubameyang to Arsenal and Bif to Chelsea. :sarcy:

Isn't it likely Morata will still be the starter?

He's swapped one bench for another and he was also their 67th striker choice this month behind Crouch.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 07:57 PM
And being 29 automatically makes you 35 it seems.

Asking who got the better deal out of Aubameyang to Arsenal and Bif to Chelsea. :sarcy:

Isn't it likely Morata will still be the starter?

So biased it's unreal. How the fuck is that even a question.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 07:58 PM
Chelsea fans aren't happy :lol:

Shed end:
'Giroud is sh*t, a player who comes from a team of serial bottlers, a player who has underperformed at every important stage of every competition. This is a black day for Chelsea football club. We would have been 100 times better off throwing Solanke, Boga, Musonda and co into the team and letting them sink or swim.'
http://www.theshedend.com/topic/31562-olivier-giroud-to-chelsea/?page=17

Özim
31-01-2018, 08:24 PM
I wouldn't be happy if we'd signed a 31 year old player like him to be honest, he's 2nd rate, decent sub and all that but 2nd rate.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 08:28 PM
My worry is we have no plan B now. What do we do when we're chasing the game? How do we change it? :unsure:

Cripps
31-01-2018, 08:31 PM
Arsenal fail in late £12m bid for Jonny Evans | @JPercyTelegraph

:lol: £12m? Are we trying to piss them off on purpose? :doh:

GP
31-01-2018, 08:31 PM
What would you value him at?

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 08:32 PM
My worry is we have no plan B now. What do we do when we're chasing the game? How do we change it? :unsure:

Welbeck.



:haha:

Cripps
31-01-2018, 08:33 PM
What would you value him at?

-£12m

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 08:33 PM
Arsenal fail in late £12m bid for Jonny Evans | @JPercyTelegraph

:lol: £12m? Are we trying to piss them off on purpose? :doh:
I think there’s still a chance we will get him, he’s been left out of the squad tonight.

I wouldn’t pay any more than £20m for him and that’s being generous tbh.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 08:37 PM
Evans would be nothing more than a panic buy at this stage.

Once the summer window opens, no one is going to be looking at him.

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 08:41 PM
Evans would be nothing more than a panic buy at this stage.

Once the summer window opens, no one is going to be looking at him.

We are panicking tbh! Look at our shower of a defence - what choice do we have exactly?!?

Globalgunner
31-01-2018, 08:43 PM
We are panicking tbh! Look at our shower of a defence - what choice do we have exactly?!?

They are coached badly, same shit will happen with Evans too

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 08:47 PM
Evans would be available for 3m as well if West Brom go down.

He's really not the answer and especially not at 20m. If we wanted an experienced CB this month why are we waiting until now to get one? Again just doing things on a whim.

GP
31-01-2018, 08:50 PM
Evans would be available for 3m as well if West Brom go down.

He's really not the answer and especially not at 20m. If we wanted an experienced CB this month why are we waiting until now to get one? Again just doing things on a whim.

To be fair even prime Maldini wouldn't be the answer.

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 08:51 PM
That is true.

McNamara That Ghost...
31-01-2018, 08:54 PM
Good to look at though.

Globalgunner
31-01-2018, 08:59 PM
Good to look at though.

Those eyes...Unreal

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 09:00 PM
Bum bandits!

Globalgunner
31-01-2018, 09:02 PM
But its true, incredible orbs.

HCZ
31-01-2018, 09:03 PM
My worry is we have no plan B now. What do we do when we're chasing the game? How do we change it? :unsure:

It’s ok, no need to worry about that

We never had a Plan B to begin with

McNamara That Ghost...
31-01-2018, 09:03 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/PaoloMaldini.jpg/220px-PaoloMaldini.jpg

HCZ
31-01-2018, 09:04 PM
To be fair even prime Maldini wouldn't be the answer.

Maldini even in his prime would have struggled in the premier league, too slow

Penguin
31-01-2018, 09:07 PM
We do need defenders but whoever we sign there will make no difference if our midfield leaves them so exposed all the time.

Özim
31-01-2018, 09:07 PM
Maldini even in his prime would have struggled in the premier league, too slow

You don't have to be quick if you can read the game, Adams wasn't quick but he read the game so well, Maldini was the same.

Özim
31-01-2018, 09:08 PM
-£12m

That's being generous!

Özim
31-01-2018, 09:10 PM
Evans would be nothing more than a panic buy at this stage.

Once the summer window opens, no one is going to be looking at him.

Exactly, if you want a player you don't wait until the last day of the transfer window, I know we always do but it's just stupidity, if we genuinely wanted one we'd have found someone before, Chelsea and Man City managed it pretty effortlessly.

Evans isn't the answer.

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 09:12 PM
You don't have to be quick if you can read the game, Adams wasn't quick but he read the game so well, Maldini was the same.

Our defenders don't move all that much anyway. They mostly stand there watching shit happen. Maldini would probably add a bit of zip to the backline.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 09:19 PM
Our defenders don't move all that much anyway. They mostly stand there watching shit happen. Maldini would probably add a bit of zip to the backline.

Why don't we add a popcorn machine to the defence then? At least when they stand still and watch they can have some popcorn to view the action.

Niall_Quinn
31-01-2018, 09:31 PM
Why don't we add a popcorn machine to the defence then? At least when they stand still and watch they can have some popcorn to view the action.

Too expensive.

Globalgunner
31-01-2018, 09:34 PM
Too expensive.

Yes, let them play. They will learn, eventually.

McNamara That Ghost...
31-01-2018, 09:58 PM
Time for the last hour of Jim White Day on SSN.

Can't see how they're going to make it exciting, I would doubt anybody is moving now.

Cripps
31-01-2018, 10:34 PM
Time for the last hour of Jim White Day on SSN.

Can't see how they're going to make it exciting, I would doubt anybody is moving now.

Beheading him?

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 10:45 PM
15 mins left to sign some more playa

KSE Comedy Club
31-01-2018, 11:08 PM
It’s all over!

Cripps
31-01-2018, 11:12 PM
Thank f*ck. Can we bin it now?

Marc Overmars
31-01-2018, 11:13 PM
West Ham don’t want to sign African players because they cause mayhem. :haha:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-5335207/amp/West-Ham-director-sparks-race-row-African-stars.html

HCZ
31-01-2018, 11:19 PM
West Ham don’t want to sign African players because they cause mayhem. :haha:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-5335207/amp/West-Ham-director-sparks-race-row-African-stars.html

Blacks :haha:

Just can’t behave themselves

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 12:02 AM
Well, we actually signed somebody worth the effort. So for us, that's a decent window. And we made a profit, which is the main thing.

AFC Leveller
01-02-2018, 09:12 AM
Giroud only given an 18 month contract! so he can basically sign for someone else next January.

AFC Leveller
01-02-2018, 09:13 AM
Walcott who couldn't string 2 passes together here or run past his man scores 2 tonight and oozes confidence :lol:

Wenger :haha:

TBH he scored two very Walcott like goals, nothing too dificult and a bit lucky. He looked at times like he had never set foot on a football pitch though, crap footballer, decent runner/goal scorer.

Cripps
01-02-2018, 09:20 AM
Arsenal's first-team squad now consists of just 23 players. And that's including the injured Santi Cazorla, and new youngster Mavropanos. So basically 21 players. Doesn't leave much room for injuries, which have been known to happen.

:doh:

Özim
01-02-2018, 09:28 AM
Arsenal's first-team squad now consists of just 23 players. And that's including the injured Santi Cazorla, and new youngster Mavropanos. So basically 21 players. Doesn't leave much room for injuries, which have been known to happen.

:doh:

They've realised lack of transfers are annoying people at last, but to fund these rather than spend some of the profits they're selling more players and bringing in money and also losing their salary off the wage bill. We're probably making even more money than we were before the transfer window now.

Well played Arsenal, must be the only big club in the world that never spends any of the profits, never challenges for big prizes and yet manages to keep the fans happy.

Özim
01-02-2018, 09:30 AM
We failed with a last minute bid for Evans apparently (close shave that one), what I find funny is that it's almost as if we didn't realise we needed a defender till we lost to Swansea, why else would you put in a last minute bid?

Özim
01-02-2018, 09:42 AM
Interestingly there's still no deal signed for Wilshire, not got much time left if we want to get him signed up.

Cripps
01-02-2018, 09:47 AM
Arsenal sell their top scorer in each of the past five seasons (Walcott 21 goals, Giroud 22, Sanchez 25, Giroud 24 and Sanchez 30) in the space of 14 days.

That's a lot of goals.

Özim
01-02-2018, 09:48 AM
Got to balance the books and all that, wouldn't mind if we brought in a similar number to what we got rid of, but we haven't.

Penguin
01-02-2018, 09:50 AM
Not sure we can afford to let Wilshere go. Most of our midfield options would look more at home at Watford than a top 6 club.

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 10:58 AM
Arsenal's first-team squad now consists of just 23 players. And that's including the injured Santi Cazorla, and new youngster Mavropanos. So basically 21 players. Doesn't leave much room for injuries, which have been known to happen.

:doh:

I can't see us picking up any injuries, tbf. We don't move around fast enough. Bellerin's hair might break in a strong wind, I suppose. Or Xhaka could get blown over.

KSE Comedy Club
01-02-2018, 10:58 AM
Got to balance the books and all that, wouldn't mind if we brought in a similar number to what we got rid of, but we haven't.

Exactly.

Out:
Ox
Coq
Theo
Giroud
Debuchy
Sanchez

Loan:
Akpom

In:
Davros
Mhiki
Auba

Anyone I've missed? :shrug:

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 10:59 AM
We failed with a last minute bid for Evans apparently (close shave that one), what I find funny is that it's almost as if we didn't realise we needed a defender till we lost to Swansea, why else would you put in a last minute bid?

Tbf, it was a last minute underbid.

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 11:00 AM
Exactly.

Out:
Ox
Coq
Theo
Giroud
Debuchy
Sanchez

Loan:
Akpom

In:
Davros
Mhiki
Auba

Anyone I've missed? :shrug:

Gabriel? When did he go?

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 11:01 AM
Not sure we can afford to let Wilshere go. Most of our midfield options would look more at home at Watford than a top 6 club.

Agreed. His new pay to play contract is quite lucrative, I think we are charging him 30K a game plus another 10 if he scores.

Cripps
01-02-2018, 11:03 AM
Top 6 transfer (net) spend 2017-18 (covering the summer and January windows)

@ManCity: £191.7m
@ManUtd: £127m
@LFC: £10m
@ChelseaFC: £68.1m
@SpursOfficial: £14.8m
@Arsenal: (–)£7.6m

:lol:

KSE Comedy Club
01-02-2018, 11:06 AM
Gabriel? When did he go?

Oh yeh :lol:

In the summer I guess?

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 11:06 AM
Top 6 transfer (net) spend 2017-18 (covering the summer and January windows)

@ManCity: £191.7m
@ManUtd: £127m
@LFC: £10m
@ChelseaFC: £68.1m
@SpursOfficial: £14.8m
@Arsenal: (–)£7.6m

:lol:

At least we aren't limping along like poor old Pep and his gypo paupers. Poor bastards.

Cripps
01-02-2018, 11:09 AM
Exactly.

Out:
Ox
Coq
Theo
Giroud
Debuchy
Sanchez

Loan:
Akpom

In:
Davros
Mhiki
Auba

Anyone I've missed? :shrug:

I think the club's argument is they are making the squad leaner but upgrading and improving its quality.

Mikhi > Theo
Auba <> Sanchez

The silly one was selling Giroud. I still don't get it. I guess they're looking at it and thinking Giroud is 31 and only gonna go downhill, we've upgraded Walcott and replaced Sanchez. So they think quality has increased and all by spending nothing as we're in a surplus over the last 2 windows. So all about quality and not about quantity.

Also anyone that says project youth was nothing but a disaster is wrong. It still affects us to this day. Look how long it took to shift Ox and Theo, the latter on silly wages.

I get the argument that we need to make the squad leaner and more efficient and improve its quality but imo we've made it too lean. We have a small squad now and for a team that has injuries regularly it doesn't bode well.

We also don't have a plan B now.

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 11:14 AM
West Ham don’t want to sign African players because they cause mayhem. :haha:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-5335207/amp/West-Ham-director-sparks-race-row-African-stars.html

And the guy has been suspended.

So, do African players cause mayhem? Is there an answer to it? Perhaps they do. Maybe they don't? Are we allowed to ask the question?

Marc Overmars
01-02-2018, 11:29 AM
Giroud was never going to play and it's tough to expect someone who's scored over 100 goals for the club to sit on the bench just in case he's needed, he's spent the last 18 months phased out of the team. Can understand why we let him go, just wished we were a little bit more ruthless and flogged him on our terms in the summer.

KSE Comedy Club
01-02-2018, 11:34 AM
And the guy has been suspended.

So, do African players cause mayhem? Is there an answer to it? Perhaps they do. Maybe they don't? Are we allowed to ask the question?

I think they are generally, well behaved.

It's only when they start dealing drugs, robbin, shooting and banging their spears against their shields that people start to take offence :coffee:

Cripps
01-02-2018, 11:47 AM
Sanllehi starts today.

SAS :bow:

Bumble
01-02-2018, 01:46 PM
At least we aren't limping along like poor old Pep and his gypo paupers. Poor bastards.

although that is more or less the current league positions. And does it really matter if City spend money, they are actually pretty good to watch and De Bruyne is quality.

KSE Comedy Club
01-02-2018, 01:51 PM
although that is more or less the current league positions. And does it really matter if City spend money, they are actually pretty good to watch and De Bruyne is quality.

I must admit, I find myself hating them less each week and don't mind watching them play.

It may have something to do with the players I have in my dream team at work - but still.

Cripps
01-02-2018, 04:02 PM
Charles Watts:

Not the first time I've heard it. Was in conversation with someone very well connected to the German camp a couple of months ago and he was convinced Low would be manager next season.

Gooner23
01-02-2018, 04:43 PM
Just need to get Wenger out the door, any semi competent manager will do right now. And if hes not good enough we move on to the next one.

The Emirates Gallactico
01-02-2018, 04:54 PM
Official.

http://community.onlinearsenal.com/uploads/default/optimized/2X/2/2461f5f77bb99ae5bbd6e5aeddfd05b623d56549_1_440x500 .jpg

Globalgunner
01-02-2018, 06:19 PM
Does Ozil now get the no10 off from jack?

LDG
01-02-2018, 06:45 PM
Official.

http://community.onlinearsenal.com/uploads/default/optimized/2X/2/2461f5f77bb99ae5bbd6e5aeddfd05b623d56549_1_440x500 .jpg

Looks like we signed a truck driver

Cripps
01-02-2018, 06:51 PM
SAS:bow:

Xhaka Can’t
01-02-2018, 09:07 PM
Was Ozil signing dependent upon Alexis leaving?

Niall_Quinn
01-02-2018, 09:09 PM
Does Ozil now get the no10 off from jack?

Are we trying to push Jack out? A pay cut and then take his shirt?

Globalgunner
01-02-2018, 10:04 PM
The writings on the well for our lad jack. I think no 13 is available. Quite the fit for a chap with the luck of a Doughnut a a cop convention