Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
He was not hounded out because whether you want to accept it or not as frustrating as it is he kept us stable for a long period. Did he make a power grab and become totally unaccountable? Did he make it harder to recruit better players because of sticking with players that weren't good enough again yes for sure.

Top Four doesn't mean much in itself, but it means we are now in a position where our long term future is secure. The clubs that would have hounded out Wenger are the clubs that were already big enough to begin with, if you are telling me Liverpool or Tottenham would have dispensed with the services of a manager who was consistently getting them top four revenue with little transfer outlay you are out of your mind.....his wage seems ridiculous in that in terms of getting us big trophies he is nowhere near, but from the club's point of view he was worth every penny.

Now we are in a situation where the manager is massively past his sell by date has bought into his own hype in an unbelievable way and acts as if he has a tangible record to cling to when the last three seasons at least have seen increased transfer outlay but absolutely no progression on the field.

And we are in fact going backward because other clubs have the ruthless ambition our board has not shown when it comes to football

At the end of the day now is the right time to demand change, because he has been given three years to prove he's not past it and he's failed. It's ridiculous to say that Wenger would have been less smug if there had been more mardy fans after the Stoke game (there was a big aerial protest during the game which you have casually dismissed). You act as if he's Donald Trump who feverishly watches Arsenal Fan TV to take the pulse of Arsenal fans.

End of the day we know that it's where we finish in the league more than anything which will determine his fate, plus Wenger last year acknowledged that he was only ever a few bad results from a fan revolt (and this was during a long unbeaten spell). So again what i'm telling you is that you are talking nonsense, and you are projecting your own insecurity onto other people.
Stable non achievers yes, which is what the board want because they only care about money not football, no other big club would have put up with it, including Spurs and Liverpool, 4th place is a stepping stone nothing more and both those clubs would have looked to have progressed, what he's done is only valued at Arsenal because the club have set this as some kind of marker of success, it isn't.

Hes definitely mor smug since we've been winning and demonstrations have calmed down, some of his comments are patronising to the highest degree, so there's no doubt in my mind the wins, the lack of protest and people being happy makes life easier for him, I agree fans don't matter to hi but if you had 60000 fans on your back I'm not sure you'd be content.

Where we finish in the league won't determine whether he stays, IMO he's staying and people don't seem overly bothered by that, it looks like we've signed some freebie as well, if we have we wouldn't be doing so before we got another manager. What I find amazing however is that he's constantly sniping at fans and patronising them and they seem happy to accept this from a man who would be nothing without them.

The guy has been stringing it out waiting for results to improve so he can soften the blow, he's hoping for a cup win, I reckon he's deluded because Chelsea are a better team and will send us packing.