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Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 07:52 PM
Vardy would have wiped the floor with Kane if he'd been in the Arsenal team last season. Don't forget, we top the "how did the cunt miss that?" league. Put a decent striker in our team and he'll fill his boots.
Maybe Wenger can change after all. Or is this a tease?
Letters
03-06-2016, 07:53 PM
I tend to agree. Not who I would have chosen.
I guess if he was good enough to win the league with Leicester...but not sure he'd fit into our system.
Not sure how I'd feel if we actually get him. We do need a striker but he wouldn't have been my first choice either.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 07:54 PM
I said in January why didn't we just fucking bid to test the water.....unsettle them or stop them winning the title and give us the edge and now this??????
Wenger is just screwing with us....
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 07:55 PM
Do you not get that we need to change our system? Our system is pure shit. I don't know if this rumour is true but if we are after Vardy then I assume that's what it's all about - changing our system.
Munchies
03-06-2016, 07:55 PM
I said in January why didn't we just fucking bid to test the water.....unsettle them or stop them winning the title and give us the edge and now this??????
Wenger is just screwing with us....
The clause was only put in Feb, specifically for CL teams. Clear sign that Vardy wanted a move down the line IMO but I doubt Leicester would've sold in Jan
AFC Leveller
03-06-2016, 07:56 PM
Not sure tbh, unless we change our style of play and go back to quick football them Vardy will struggle.
Also have worries that he might be be one season wonder.
Munchies
03-06-2016, 07:57 PM
Do you not get that we need to change our system? Our system is pure shit. I don't know if this rumour is true but if we are after Vardy then I assume that's what it's all about - changing our system.
our system is fucking shit and we're 2nd to United in back passes!
Master Splinter
03-06-2016, 07:57 PM
If Vardy is going relatively cheap for this day and age, maybe he's the replacement for Walcott and we're also after another striker seeing as Welbeck will miss most of the next season.
That would make the most sense. But then again, WUMger rarely does the required.
If the Vardy signing is a sign of him losing his senses somewhat, then I suppose it's better than doing the bare minimum and going through the same frustrating motions every season.
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 07:57 PM
Better than the no season wonders we already have.
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 07:59 PM
our system is fucking shit and we're 2nd to United in back passes!
If having Vardy on the pitch means that something happens during our games rather than tip, tap, tip, tap - I'm already sold.
Letters
03-06-2016, 08:00 PM
our system is fucking shit and we're 2nd to United in back passes!
And in the league. It's not that bad, we just needed a top striker and we'd have walked it last year.
Marc Overmars
03-06-2016, 08:00 PM
The best thing is that it shows WUMger is perhaps looking at a different kind of forward. Rather than his usual big hold the ball up types.
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 08:01 PM
Lineker's tweet: "Stay with the Champions @vardy7 don't join the perennial also-rans."
Is anyone against signing him just to piss off Lineker? Money well spent.
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 08:03 PM
And in the league. It's not that bad, we just needed a top striker and we'd have walked it last year.
No, we needed a striker that could stick the ball in the net. "Top" is defined by hype merchants and agents, but 27 goals is a better story. Those goals helped win a title and isn't that precisely what we are looking for? Add a CB to this mix and. hard to believe, but Wenger will have done the business. Finally he'll have closed that 2% gap.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 08:05 PM
Vardy would have wiped the floor with Kane if he'd been in the Arsenal team last season. Don't forget, we top the "how did the cunt miss that?" league. Put a decent striker in our team and he'll fill his boots.
Maybe Wenger can change after all. Or is this a tease?
So is vardy going to prepare them and do the tactics? :d
Master Splinter
03-06-2016, 08:10 PM
With a red card machine called Granit and now a racist, diving, foul-mouthed GHEL like Vardy, Wenget is finally signing some proper cunts.
Shame that they'll be sent off in every game now that they may play for big girl's blouses Arsenal.
£50m bid for Pepe next?
29
Nah.
One season wonder.
Kevin Phillips.
Go big or fuck off. We need a suarez. 50m big fuck off signing of intent.
Vardy is not that man.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 08:14 PM
Different systems but seriously.....have you seen the little racist strike a ball? Kid can finish his dinner. Regardless of system.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 08:17 PM
To be fair if Phillips was as quick as Vardy I'd have wanted him no sweat!
alexander
03-06-2016, 08:19 PM
Do you not get that we need to change our system? Our system is pure shit. I don't know if this rumour is true but if we are after Vardy then I assume that's what it's all about - changing our system.
Watching videos of Granit Xhaka spraying long balls about on youtube, now adding a player like Vardy is a real change imo.
alexander
03-06-2016, 08:22 PM
29
Nah.
One season wonder.
Kevin Phillips.
Go big or fuck off. We need a suarez. 50m big fuck off signing of intent.
Vardy is not that man.
If he isnt going to cost too much, then go for it. Knows the PL, can dam well hit a ball too. Id take him over Morata etc.
I am invisible
03-06-2016, 08:24 PM
Watching videos of Granit Xhaka spraying long balls about on youtube, now adding a player like Vardy is a real change imo.
Was just thinking that...
One season wonder, I tell ya.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 08:24 PM
Haven't signed him yet lads....
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 08:26 PM
Even if he flopped a year later his sell on value would probably be what.....20 million!!!!
Marc Overmars
03-06-2016, 08:27 PM
Different systems but seriously.....have you seen the little racist strike a ball? Kid can finish his dinner. Regardless of system.
As long as we don't attempt to turn him into a Wengerbot he stands a good chance of succeeding. Wrighty was signed at a similar age and look what happened there.
This move is a gamble but it's one I'd take for sure.
Even if he flopped a year later his sell on value would probably be what.....20 million!!!!
At 30/31?? Fark off.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 08:29 PM
Price wise it's as small a gamble as we are going to get for the potential productivity. Unless we sign Jansen? But that's a bigger gamble in terms of the player...
Letters
03-06-2016, 08:31 PM
No, we needed a striker that could stick the ball in the net. "Top" is defined by hype merchants and agents, but 27 goals is a better story. Those goals helped win a title and isn't that precisely what we are looking for? Add a CB to this mix and. hard to believe, but Wenger will have done the business. Finally he'll have closed that 2% gap.
Maybe. I'm still of the opinion he was, as LDG puts it, a one season wonder but we certainly need a striker.
And yes, if it upsets Linekar then that can only be a good thing.
Not sure how well he'd do playing in front of a defence rather than off it. Will he adapt to tippy tappy does WUMger just want to replicate Leicester? His finishing was off the chart last season so that's got to be the most encouraging thing though.
Let's see what happens, Leicester could easily offer him more money to stay. Ball is in his court.
Very surprised Wenger is interested in him. He's probably desperate to win the league with a year left on his deal.
Exactly. He's a very direct player, who works very well on the counter. I've no idea how he would work in a team that holds onto the ball for most the game and only a small amount of chances come from counter attacking.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-06-2016, 08:32 PM
The league is awash with the Benjamin's mate..... Apparently the team bottom of the league next year will earn what we did this year. Even if we resold him for 10 mill that represents a gamble of 10 mill price wise.
If anybody is sweating that, they need to stop watching football at this level in this country!
Letters
03-06-2016, 08:32 PM
Haven't signed him yet lads....
Would be very surprised if he comes to us,
I'd rather we actually went full mental with the cash we have. Go big.
Vardy is small time. Fair enougb if we're getting him plus a proper 50m centre forward, but if it's him Welbz and Giroud, we're in the same boat AGAIN.
Go and get a proper big name. We deserve that. Fuck Vardy. Small time.
AFC Leveller
03-06-2016, 08:34 PM
Linneker is suck a big eared cunt, not the first time he disrespects the club in public.
I'd rather we actually went full mental with the cash we have. Go big.
Vardy is small time. Fair enougb if we're getting him plus a proper 50m centre forward, but if it's him Welbz and Giroud, we're in the same boat AGAIN.
Go and get a proper big name. We deserve that. Fuck Vardy. Small time.
You aren't going to get a superstar player for £50m in the current market. Not that I'm a fan of this potential transfer either.
You aren't going to get a superstar player for £50m in the current market. Not that I'm a fan of this potential transfer either.
80m then.
Fuck it.
Are we a big club or not?
AFC Leveller
03-06-2016, 08:36 PM
I'd rather we actually went full mental with the cash we have. Go big.
Vardy is small time. Fair enougb if we're getting him plus a proper 50m centre forward, but if it's him Welbz and Giroud, we're in the same boat AGAIN.
Go and get a proper big name. We deserve that. Fuck Vardy. Small time.
Apart from Aubameyang, there is no one out there who can score 30 goals a season and isn't at the top club already. I'd rather Vardy than nobody tbh.
80m then.
Fuck it.
Are we a big club or not?
But with other players needed the club won't spend that and I can understand why. You don't blow all your cash reserves in a business and at least a quarter of that is used for various outgoings. So around £100m or slightly more max would we ever spend in a window I think.
Apart from Aubameyang, there is no one out there who can score 30 goals a season and isn't at the top club already. I'd rather Vardy than nobody tbh.
Depends on your ambition.
If you waft enough cash about, you get your man.
We need to decide who we are. A big club challenging for the big prizes, or a middle tier club happy to poodle along finishing above spurs.
Our manage is not capable of building a side anymore. He needs top fucking quality all over the park able to do it themselves.
Vardy, Welbz, Giroud etc are not those players.
We sign Vardy, we're already accepting also-ran status. That jug eared bbc cunt is right.
More importantly, if this happens, do we have a tour of Asia pre-season?
But with other players needed the club won't spend that and I can understand why. You don't blow all your cash reserves in a business and at least a quarter of that is used for various outgoings. So around £100m or slightly more max would we ever spend in a window I think.
But we all know that with the current squad, we should have won the league but for a top striker.
Why not make that priority fucking number 1. 80m, bang. Intent. Sell Walcott, sell Chamberlain, sell the other toss. Get 50% of that back.
Nope. We'll just sign loads of 20m nearly men. Yes, I know he won the league....but really, Vardy?
Anyway. Fuck it, I'm getting pissed and listening to heavy guitar based music.
Night.
But we all know that with the current squad, we should have won the league but for a top striker.
Why not make that priority fucking number 1. 80m, bang. Intent. Sell Walcott, sell Chamberlain, sell the other toss. Get 50% of that back.
Nope. We'll just sign loads of 20m nearly men. Yes, I know he won the league....but really, Vardy?
Are we sure of that, with Wenger in charge? We were also left with Flamini for a lot of games last season and given the injuries we pick up, I totally get the Xhaka signing - he could well be the best CM we have in the team if he lives up to the praise. Too many times we've left our defence exposed and not had control of games because of our middle pair were weak. We sell Walcott and Chamberlain we'll need replacements, so it's all a juggling act. We're not City or Chelsea when it comes to paying the really stupid prices for obvious reasons. Not happy with Vardy potentially coming here either but I'm not sure there is a lot available in our price bracket.
AFC Leveller
03-06-2016, 08:58 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/676703/Arsenal-Transfer-News-Antonio-Colak-Hoffenheim-Agrees-Personal-Terms
Who the fuck I this guy?
The Emirates Gallactico
03-06-2016, 09:01 PM
Depends on your ambition.
If you waft enough cash about, you get your man.
We need to decide who we are. A big club challenging for the big prizes, or a middle tier club happy to poodle along finishing above spurs.
Our manage is not capable of building a side anymore. He needs top fucking quality all over the park able to do it themselves.
Vardy, Welbz, Giroud etc are not those players.
We sign Vardy, we're already accepting also-ran status. That jug eared bbc cunt is right.
He's right though.
There's no point wasting an summer chasing impossible targets like Suarez, Lewandowski, Benzema or Aubyemang for that matter. That's what screwed over Man Utd the past two seasons and what kind of screwed us last summer with our quixotic quest for Benzema.
The more I think about it the more I would like this signing PROVIDED as has been already mentioned Wenger changes the style of play to suit his strength, i.e. no more tippy tappy.
Munchies
03-06-2016, 09:05 PM
John Cross:
@johncrossmirror
The Vardy #afc deal poised and ready to go. Clause in process of being met, then talks and if (always an if) it happens it'll be done quick.
The Emirates Gallactico
03-06-2016, 09:05 PM
But we all know that with the current squad, we should have won the league but for a top striker.
Why not make that priority fucking number 1. 80m, bang. Intent. Sell Walcott, sell Chamberlain, sell the other toss. Get 50% of that back.
Nope. We'll just sign loads of 20m nearly men. Yes, I know he won the league....but really, Vardy?
It was reported today that Man Utd had what would been a world record bid for Muller rejected.
You can throw 80 million around but clubs like Real, Bayern, Barca etc aren't in any need to sell and nor would those player necessarily want to take a step down to come here. It'd be a waste of time.
The more I think about it the more I would like this signing PROVIDED as has been already mentioned Wenger changes the style of play to suit his strength, i.e. no more tippy tappy.
I can't see that happening after all these years, tearing up the modern Wenger training manual. That's a huge shift in mentality in a very short space of time, made worse by the shortened pre-season with the Euro's. So buying a player whose success is built on directness and pace doesn't make any sense on the surface. Unless he has actually gone bonkers.
The Emirates Gallactico
03-06-2016, 09:12 PM
I can't see that happening after all these years, tearing up the modern Wenger training manual. That's a huge shift in mentality in a very short space of time, mad worse by the shortened pre-season with the Euro's. So buying a player whose success is built on directness and pace doesn't make any sense on the surface.
Well tbf it's not like Wenger isn't familiar with that style having used it so effectively when he first joined.
He's already scrapping a lot of his recent ideology just by signing Vardy (or at least attempting to), a player who he wouldn't even had a second look at 5 years ago so maybe things have finally changed?
AFC Leveller
03-06-2016, 09:17 PM
It was reported today that Man Utd had what would been a world record bid for Muller rejected.
You can throw 80 million around but clubs like Real, Bayern, Barca etc aren't in any need to sell and nor would those player necessarily want to take a step down to come here. It'd be a waste of time.
They also went all out to sign Ramos but Real weren't bothered, regardless of the price. Players at big clubs are difficult to get hold of, esp Strikers are they are hard to find.
Real Madrid had a massive offer from PSG for Ronaldo but because they couldn't find a replacement they said no to the cash.
Aubameyang is the one I really want us to sign, ticks all the boxes.
Munchies
03-06-2016, 09:17 PM
United sign Zlatan
The Emirates Gallactico
03-06-2016, 09:19 PM
They also went all out to sign Ramos but Real weren't bothered, regardless of the price. Players at big clubs are difficult to get hold of, esp Strikers are they are hard to find.
Real Madrid had a massive offer from PSG for Ronaldo but because they couldn't find a replacement they said no to the cash.
Aubameyang is the one I really want us to sign, ticks all the boxes.
Hear hear.
And me two. Though after Gundogen and Hummels have already gone and Mkhitrayan is stalling there's no way in hell that Dortmund are going to allow yet another star player to leave this window no matter the offer.
Munchies
03-06-2016, 09:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vY6CAeuqWo
lol never in a million years.
I'll only believe it when I see him starting for us up front next season.
This is like Welbeck all over again
Not keen on that signing, the only Leicester player Id particularly want is Mahrez
Me neither, he's 29 not the type age cateogry we need, Mahrez is brilliant though.
Munchies
03-06-2016, 10:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkDgGTRWgAEnlpp.jpg
Marc Overmars
03-06-2016, 10:14 PM
This is like Welbeck all over again
Vardy can finish at least tbf.
Vardy can finish at least tbf.
He's had one good season to be fair and he's 29 and reliant on pace, that soon goes when you get into your 30's so he won't be useful ver long. Very underwhelming indeed for me, like Zombie said Mahrez is the gem.
People say it's not an Wenger like signing, it is because he's relatively cheap and Wenger loves that.
IMO he should stay with Leicester, the Champions and the team that made him.
We'll sign him and he'll probably score 3 goals next season and miss a shedload and prove he's a one season wonder.
Marc Overmars
03-06-2016, 10:19 PM
Would be very surprised if he comes to us,
It's the one and only opportunity he's going to have to get a big move. He put the release clause in for a reason so I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.
Whether he wants to play for us is another matter though, when he put the clause in I imagine we were the team he thought were least likely to activate it.
Whether he wants to play for us is another matter though.
Course he does. Dream come true.
Marc Overmars
03-06-2016, 11:01 PM
https://amp.twimg.com/v/7c13cdd4-908e-49f4-b250-75163c32c099
Munchies
03-06-2016, 11:04 PM
Let's hope it happens
Buzzing!
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 11:40 PM
Depends on your ambition.
If you waft enough cash about, you get your man.
We need to decide who we are. A big club challenging for the big prizes, or a middle tier club happy to poodle along finishing above spurs.
Our manage is not capable of building a side anymore. He needs top fucking quality all over the park able to do it themselves.
Vardy, Welbz, Giroud etc are not those players.
We sign Vardy, we're already accepting also-ran status. That jug eared bbc cunt is right.
No, but Alexis, Ozil, Vardy - that's a different picture. If we get him for £20mill then we've done the deal of the summer as far as I'm concerned. Plenty of shite will be coming in with £50mill price tags attached. What does £20mill get you these days? £50mill gets you Sterling, if you know what I mean.
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 11:42 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/676703/Arsenal-Transfer-News-Antonio-Colak-Hoffenheim-Agrees-Personal-Terms
Who the fuck I this guy?
Ah yes - this is far more up our street.
WHO?
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 11:45 PM
I can't see that happening after all these years, tearing up the modern Wenger training manual. That's a huge shift in mentality in a very short space of time, made worse by the shortened pre-season with the Euro's. So buying a player whose success is built on directness and pace doesn't make any sense on the surface. Unless he has actually gone bonkers.
Or gone back to what actually won him trophies. It's not like he hasn't presided over teams that actually give it a go.
Niall_Quinn
03-06-2016, 11:45 PM
United sign Zlatan
He'll play 10 games tops.
Niall_Quinn
04-06-2016, 12:07 AM
Arsenal are in a race to complete the deal by the end of this weekend as England boss Hodgson does not want players discussing moves or undergoing medicals during Euro 2016.
Erm, fuck Woy and what he wants. Surely?
Thierrymon
04-06-2016, 12:44 AM
Not sure whether to be happy with this or not. There is no doubting how brilliant Vardy was last season but we play such a different style of football. If we stick to our style I cant see him making much impact when there are 6 defenders in front of him.
If we go back to the football we used to play then it could be an exciting move.
fakeyank
04-06-2016, 03:07 AM
Can see him being injured for at least half the season. Meh.
Has the dinosaur left yet? :yawn:
alexander
04-06-2016, 05:28 AM
Maybe the vardy signing will be one of two strikers coming in? Get him in, he can hit the ground running, he knows the league and can strike a ball better than Giroud/Feo/Welbeck. Then sign one of these younger strikers that others have mentioned on this board and that gives them a season or two to settle in. Higuain is being mooted, but he will be 50-60mil, and is of a similar age, and would take time to adjust. Benz and RM has never really excited me, he is ok, but not for the money they would want for him.
alexander
04-06-2016, 05:30 AM
Not sure whether to be happy with this or not. There is no doubting how brilliant Vardy was last season but we play such a different style of football. If we stick to our style I cant see him making much impact when there are 6 defenders in front of him.
If we go back to the football we used to play then it could be an exciting move.
Watch some Xhaka videos on youtube and imagine vardy getting on the end of them.
Im sure this is a shift in Wengers thinking. He is a stubborn git, but maybe he has finally realised he needs to change if he wants to win the PL.
Japan Shaking All Over
04-06-2016, 06:47 AM
Apparently we are bringing Eboue back to teach him how to dive properly and get away with it!
I am invisible
04-06-2016, 06:56 AM
Not sure whether to be happy with this or not. There is no doubting how brilliant Vardy was last season but we play such a different style of football. If we stick to our style I cant see him making much impact when there are 6 defenders in front of him.
If we go back to the football we used to play then it could be an exciting move.
I don't know... Leicester's style is different, but I don't see why Vardy wouldn't fit here? We've generally looked at our best when we've had Welbeck up front, as a hard-working, pacey, pain in the ass, who presses and hassles defenders, and I suppose the 1 or 2 games a year when Walcott actually 'clicks'? We might not get to play that way as often as we'd like, but there is precedent for it. Vary also looks a decent box striker as well as a counter-attacker from open play - not sure about his hold-up play, but we have other options for that. That's an important point here - if we can't find a super-forward who does everything, then the next best thing has to be adding variety so we can rotate...
No, but Alexis, Ozil, Vardy - that's a different picture. If we get him for £20mill then we've done the deal of the summer as far as I'm concerned. Plenty of shite will be coming in with £50mill price tags attached. What does £20mill get you these days? £50mill gets you Sterling, if you know what I mean.
Yes it's cheap in today's market, but it's 20 million for a 29 year old reliant on his pace with just one good season under his belt, on that basis it's not that cheap, just like Wellbeck wasn't cheap.
This club has a history of making the wrong signings in the last decade, rather than solving problem areas it looks for a cheap fix, it's the wrong approach.
Plenty of players who have had one good PL season and never repeated it and at his age it's very possible this is the case and realistically how long does he have left?
Watch some Xhaka videos on youtube and imagine vardy getting on the end of them.
Im sure this is a shift in Wengers thinking. He is a stubborn git, but maybe he has finally realised he needs to change if he wants to win the PL.
This isn't a shift in thinking, Vardy comes cheap, that's Wenger all over. We don't even have any proof this guy is not a one season wonder, his career points to the fact he is.
Power n Glory
04-06-2016, 07:40 AM
Really not sure about this Vardy move. Leicester have pulled off a miracle and their was something special in that camp that drove those players. I don't think we'll get that same form from Vardy.
This is a retirement package. He's 29. Has just won the league and been in the form of his life. He's about to represent his country in the Euros. He's in dreamland. He never expected this for his career and nobody else did either. That's why I worry. He could retire a happy man right now. So I really don't know of he's going to arrive at Arsenal with that same hunger. If he turns up with a 'just happy to be here' attitude and can't believing his luck, all star struck, I can't see us getting much out of this move.
I would prefer a younger player and someone that has time to get over that sophomore jinx. Vardy isn't a rookie but the way he's burst on to the scene because of last season makes it seem so.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
04-06-2016, 07:52 AM
Really not sure about this Vardy move. Leicester have pulled off a miracle and their was something special in that camp that drove those players. I don't think we'll get that same form from Vardy.
This is a retirement package. He's 29. Has just won the league and been in the form of his life. He's about to represent his country in the Euros. He's in dreamland. He never expected this for his career and nobody else did either. That's why I worry. He could retire a happy man right now. So I really don't know of he's going to arrive at Arsenal with that same hunger. If he turns up with a 'just happy to be here' attitude and can't believing his luck, all star struck, I can't see us getting much out of this move.
I would prefer a younger player and someone that has time to get over that sophomore jinx. Vardy isn't a rookie but the way he's burst on to the scene because of last season makes it seem so.
Pretty much.
If he was five years younger, you'd think ok....fair enough late blossomer but broken through. But at his age....it's hard to look at the previous season as anything other than an outlier for him.
Power n Glory
04-06-2016, 07:56 AM
This isn't a shift in thinking, Vardy comes cheap, that's Wenger all over. We don't even have any proof this guy is not a one season wonder, his career points to the fact he is.
It's similar to Giroud's signing. Relegation candidates manage to win the league the following season and we poach their top striker that has only 2 seasons playing at the top of the division. Very different players but similar circumstances.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
04-06-2016, 08:13 AM
It's similar to Giroud's signing. Relegation candidates manage to win the league the following season and we poach their top striker that has only 2 seasons playing at the top of the division. Very different players but similar circumstances.
Again would agree, Giroud also came from lower league football as well
Japan Shaking All Over
04-06-2016, 08:16 AM
Really not sure about this Vardy move. Leicester have pulled off a miracle and their was something special in that camp that drove those players. I don't think we'll get that same form from Vardy.
This is a retirement package. He's 29. Has just won the league and been in the form of his life. He's about to represent his country in the Euros. He's in dreamland. He never expected this for his career and nobody else did either. That's why I worry. He could retire a happy man right now. So I really don't know of he's going to arrive at Arsenal with that same hunger. If he turns up with a 'just happy to be here' attitude and can't believing his luck, all star struck, I can't see us getting much out of this move.
I would prefer a younger player and someone that has time to get over that sophomore jinx. Vardy isn't a rookie but the way he's burst on to the scene because of last season makes it seem so.
To be honest I am not blown away by this because of the age and the doubt he could do it all over again but I am also not crestfallen by it either because of the price and by the fact he could possibly do it all over again.
He provides us with mobility which is what our game needs to work up front, his work ethic is high and there is no doubt that he knows how to score, I think Ozil will be excited to have a striker that can play off a defenders shoulder. He is a poor mans Suarez in terms of that aspect and we would have blown people away if we had got him but we didn't because we decided to do business like a bunch of prays! So we can't be surprised to see us get the lesser version.
I am going to remain optimistic about this and am glad to see us looking to do business early....:need that defender though
Marc Overmars
04-06-2016, 08:44 AM
Really not sure about this Vardy move. Leicester have pulled off a miracle and their was something special in that camp that drove those players. I don't think we'll get that same form from Vardy.
This is a retirement package. He's 29. Has just won the league and been in the form of his life. He's about to represent his country in the Euros. He's in dreamland. He never expected this for his career and nobody else did either. That's why I worry. He could retire a happy man right now. So I really don't know of he's going to arrive at Arsenal with that same hunger. If he turns up with a 'just happy to be here' attitude and can't believing his luck, all star struck, I can't see us getting much out of this move.
I would prefer a younger player and someone that has time to get over that sophomore jinx. Vardy isn't a rookie but the way he's burst on to the scene because of last season makes it seem so.
He doesn't strike me as the kind of player that would lose his hunger. He's always going to be that run himself into the ground, kick, claw and scratch kind of player. His desire isn't the concern for me it's just whether last season was a fluke or not in terms of his flawless finishing.
It's a left field move for sure but lets face it, we're never going to find a striker that gets 100% fan approval. I've seen people on here poo-poo Benzema, Higuaín and others with a far bigger pedigree than Vardy.
Vardy would not have been my choice either but I'm just happy we want to take a chance on someone for the here and now, rather than buy someone with the caveat of "settling in" etc.
Chippy
04-06-2016, 08:54 AM
Really not sure about this Vardy move. Leicester have pulled off a miracle and their was something special in that camp that drove those players. I don't think we'll get that same form from Vardy.
This is a retirement package. He's 29. Has just won the league and been in the form of his life. He's about to represent his country in the Euros. He's in dreamland. He never expected this for his career and nobody else did either. That's why I worry. He could retire a happy man right now. So I really don't know of he's going to arrive at Arsenal with that same hunger. If he turns up with a 'just happy to be here' attitude and can't believing his luck, all star struck, I can't see us getting much out of this move.
I would prefer a younger player and someone that has time to get over that sophomore jinx. Vardy isn't a rookie but the way he's burst on to the scene because of last season makes it seem so.
Lol! We moan when Wenger does not spend, when he does, we still fucking moan! We need a striker to hit the ground running ffs!
Ps
Shut the fuck up Lineker you cunt!
Munchies
04-06-2016, 08:55 AM
@AFCAMDEN
If it's good enough for Wenger, it's good enough for me. Arsenal want it done before Sunday. #Vardy #afc
@AFCAMDEN
I've been told Vardy wants to come. Badly.
@AFCAMDEN
Also told Arsenal interested in left back Rodriguez but not advanced. Also depends on outgoing. Liverpool interested in Gibbs. #afc #lfc
Get in!
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
04-06-2016, 09:01 AM
Lol! We moan when Wenger does not spend, when he does, we still fucking moan! We need a striker to hit the ground running ffs!
Ps
Shut the fuck up Lineker you cunt!
Hang on, it's not that black and white. Yes it's good Wenger is being proactive in the transfer market but it's not unfair to question whether it's the right move. That doesn't run alongside the same Axis as Wenger in/Wenger out. Just chatting with a guy on Twitter who is infuriatingly smug Wenger can do no wrong type but he is not sure at all about Vardy, where as someone like Pete Wood (Le Grove) who is definitely a Wenger out thinks it's a good move.
Why do we always do this, sign these middle of road players, problem with Vardy is a) his age and b) the fact he's really only done it for one season and at his age that would point to a one off season for a team who produced a miracle, not to mention the fact that pace is the 1st thing to go when you get into your 30's and that would be his main weapon gone.
Very much reminds me of Wellbeck another guy I didn't want here and it's turned out he's not pulled out any trees and really has shown that as we knew his finishing is wayward.
Almost every single time we make these odd signings rather than going for someone who is a better fit, I agree with HCZ if he was yuonger then I'd be much happier, but at his age I feel it's the wrong signing.
IMO the reason Wenger has gone for him is due to the cost, he's not too expensive and Wenger just loves these kinda signings.
Shaqiri Is Boss
04-06-2016, 09:20 AM
Gibbs? I've read that a few times. Isn't he always injured?
I'll be honest I don't think I've ever paid much attention to him. What are his strengths? Defending or going forward?
Globalgunner
04-06-2016, 09:22 AM
Not absolutely sure this one is for real. Im secretly hoping this is just a stratagem to get Real Madrid to reduce the ask on Morata. Him for 30m or Vardy for 20m. Easy choice.
Either way it spells the end for Walcott. If he doesnt leave then he is more brainless than everyone says.
Globalgunner
04-06-2016, 09:23 AM
Gibbs? I've read that a few times. Isn't he always injured?
I'll be honest I don't think I've ever paid much attention to him. What are his strengths? Defending or going forward?
Falling down when put under pressure, Clichy`s replacement in every way.
Munchies
04-06-2016, 09:25 AM
It's done guys!
@AFCAMDEN
Confirmed that deal agreed between Vardy & Arsenal, just paperwork & medical to complete. Should be done today & tomorrow. #afc #lcfc
https://twitter.com/AFCAMDEN/status/739023067435945984
I've usually got no problem getting behind any player that puts on an Arsenal shirt but if this happens it is going to be a difficult one.
Munchies
04-06-2016, 09:42 AM
I've usually got no problem getting behind any player that puts on an Arsenal shirt but if this happens it is going to be a difficult one.
Why?
Why?
Might be the racism.
Munchies
04-06-2016, 09:51 AM
Might be the racism.
About time we had a proper cunt in our team though
I'm sure he'll adapt to our team :lol:
Marc Overmars
04-06-2016, 10:02 AM
Might be the racism.
Good job Ryo isn't still with us.
Why?
I don't mind having some cunts out on the pitch but this guy strikes me as that sort of person on and off the pitch. I wouldn't be booing his work for the team but I don't think I'd be too enthusiastic either.
The Wengerbabies
04-06-2016, 10:08 AM
Might be the racism.
What racism?
I not really excited by this. He's 29 and had one good season.
Is this the best we can do these days? Sad.
Power n Glory
04-06-2016, 10:10 AM
Only just Googled it and it's pretty bad.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6581386/England-ace-Jamie-Vardy-in-racism-storm.html
A link for the lazy that haven't worked out how to find content on Google. :lol:
Good job Ryo isn't still with us.
We could do with some japs.
Or slopes.
The Wengerbabies
04-06-2016, 10:12 AM
Only just Googled it and it's pretty bad.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6581386/England-ace-Jamie-Vardy-in-racism-storm.html
A link for the lazy that haven't worked out how to find content on Google. :lol:
Nasty guy.
He has always come across a working class scum.
milla
04-06-2016, 10:15 AM
Only just Googled it and it's pretty bad.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6581386/England-ace-Jamie-Vardy-in-racism-storm.html
A link for the lazy that haven't worked out how to find content on Google. :lol:
What a racist c*** hopefully Wenger could teach him some culture. :coffee:
Power n Glory
04-06-2016, 10:17 AM
Lol! We moan when Wenger does not spend, when he does, we still fucking moan! We need a striker to hit the ground running ffs!
Ps
Shut the fuck up Lineker you cunt!
Take the 'we' out of it.
This is my opinion and I always want us to spend wisely and I'm not sure if this is a wise bet. I'm just starting my reasons. But I have no problem being wrong with this one.
Niall_Quinn
04-06-2016, 10:24 AM
Racism :haha:
More like out of control, politically correct queers if we are being honest about it. We're all ever so offended at , "Jap"? I'd use that in normal speech without there being any need for an altercation. He's a Jap. He's a Yank. He's a Frog. And so on. Won't stop using it either, even if girly men get offended.
So nobody remembers actual racism then? Everyone now thinks racism is bad words and staged outcry?
Power n Glory
04-06-2016, 10:25 AM
Nasty guy.
He has always come across a working class scum.
Very nasty. He got more aggressive and he wouldn't stop so not just a case of the word just slipping out in a heated exchange.
Niall_Quinn
04-06-2016, 10:27 AM
:hah:
Nasty chap. How's the enslavement of the weak and the poor and the elderly coming along? Just fine! But did I hear somebody say Jap? FFS - what's this world coming to?
Niall_Quinn
04-06-2016, 10:29 AM
Working class scum :haha:
Scummy bloke who works for a living. Imagine that - working for a living. How low can you get?
Niall_Quinn
04-06-2016, 10:30 AM
There's this vile and unfounded rumour going around that Arsenal fans are precious. Where it came from, who can ever know?
selassie
04-06-2016, 10:52 AM
Sounds like we are confident of wrapping up the Vardy deal in the next 24 hours, very surprised but he's a good player so I'm not complaining.
selassie
04-06-2016, 10:55 AM
Racism :haha:
More like out of control, politically correct queers if we are being honest about it. We're all ever so offended at , "Jap"? I'd use that in normal speech without there being any need for an altercation. He's a Jap. He's a Yank. He's a Frog. And so on. Won't stop using it either, even if girly men get offended.
So nobody remembers actual racism then? Everyone now thinks racism is bad words and staged outcry?
Apparently Vardy spoke like a Jamaican when he first joined Leicester, was reading on their forums this morning :lol:
Shaqiri Is Boss
04-06-2016, 10:57 AM
Falling down when put under pressure, Clichy`s replacement in every way.
Oh well an upgrade on Moreno then.
Niall_Quinn
04-06-2016, 10:59 AM
Sounds like we've signed the only professional footballer who is a bit of a dick. Doesn't matter, we can get Jack to set him on the straight and narrow.
Niall_Quinn
04-06-2016, 11:00 AM
Oh well an upgrade on Moreno then.
Clyne on the right, Gibbs on the left. That won't be too shabby at all. But you'll only get half a season out of Gibbs, max. So solid cover required if you are going there.
Gibbs is a sh*t full back, can't defend for toffee, good riddance to the crock.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
04-06-2016, 12:44 PM
Yes it's cheap in today's market, but it's 20 million for a 29 year old reliant on his pace with just one good season under his belt, on that basis it's not that cheap, just like Wellbeck wasn't cheap.
This club has a history of making the wrong signings in the last decade, rather than solving problem areas it looks for a cheap fix, it's the wrong approach.
Plenty of players who have had one good PL season and never repeated it and at his age it's very possible this is the case and realistically how long does he have left?
To suggest he is totally reliant on pace is to say he hasn't scored 24 league goals this season....same tally as augero. If we won the league next season, who would actually argue against it?
People keep repeatedly saying 'only 1 good season' but he hasn't had enough seasons in the top flight to do much more. He's actually been brilliant for several seasons it just so happens he started pretty low down and passed every test along the way. Can we really only buy a striker we're going to get 10 years out of?
Apparently Vardy spoke like a Jamaican when he first joined Leicester, was reading on their forums this morning :lol: wtf? lol!!!
Master Splinter
04-06-2016, 03:30 PM
Gibbs? I've read that a few times. Isn't he always injured?
I'll be honest I don't think I've ever paid much attention to him. What are his strengths? Defending or going forward?
He hasn't been injured much recently, he just hasn't played because Monreal has been outstanding.
He can be really frustrating in terms of his productivity in the final third, but he's technically really consistent, good in the air and is quick, fast and has pace.
I think he'd be a really good signing for Liverpool and he'd probably be praised in all corners because he'd actually be playing consistently. I'd be disappointed to lose a solid backup player, unless we're after a new LB.
Keith
04-06-2016, 04:48 PM
Remember their was once a striker who had one good season at Utd, doubt many of their fans reacted like this when he was bought
Munchies
05-06-2016, 06:40 PM
The Sun are saying we're after Mahrez too!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/transfernews/7194947/Arsenal-transfer-exclusive-Riyad-Mahrez-set-to-join-Jamie-Vardy-at-the-Emirates-as-Arsene-Wenger-meets-low-release-clause.html
Marc Overmars
05-06-2016, 07:54 PM
I doubt we're after Mahrez too.
AFC Leveller
05-06-2016, 08:42 PM
Well no one thought we would go after Vardy a few days ago....
Would love Mahrez, creative and scores goals, the gem in Leicester's crown, forget about Vardy and let's move for this guy.
Marc Overmars
05-06-2016, 11:01 PM
Mahrez would be great. Let's hope Walcott is sold. Instant upgrade there.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
06-06-2016, 07:03 AM
Seems very unlikely to me.
Power n Glory
06-06-2016, 08:36 AM
Wenger hasn't hidden his admiration for the player and we are looking for a winger from the sounds of things.
Is it unlikely because it's ruthless?
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
06-06-2016, 09:24 AM
Is it unlikely because it's ruthless?
Yes
selassie
06-06-2016, 10:00 AM
Wenger hasn't hidden his admiration for the player and we are looking for a winger from the sounds of things.
Is it unlikely because it's ruthless?
Mahrez will cost an arm and a leg and I suspect we would have to be very proactive and aggressive in our pursuit of him as he would have many suitors if it becomes public that Leicester are willing to sell.
I really like him as a player and would be quite happy for us to pay big money for him as I think he would upgrade our team and make a big difference.
I dunno....I'd love to believe these Mahrez rumours but it seems very un-Arsenal like of us to go cherry picking a rival PL team for it's best players, saying that the Vardy bid is very un-Arsenal like so who knows?!
Power n Glory
06-06-2016, 10:46 AM
He could have a buyout clause like Vardy.
Niall_Quinn
06-06-2016, 11:40 AM
He does have a buyout clause - also £20mill. So does Kante :-) :haha:
Somebody didn't expect quite this much success when those contracts were being penned. I think the clauses only apply for clubs in the CL.
There were some rumours Mahrez was open to a move in recent times, if we put in a decent enough bid we could get him IMO, it's not like we're trying to sign Chelsea.
2 ways of looking at it, players at Leicester could stay, be worshipped like heroes but of course risk a tough next season next campaign, move to a club who will get a top 4 place but not win anything, or move to a top club who will win stuff (if the option is there).
Plus if they leave Leicester don't think it will go down well, which I think will affect Vardy's decision more as an English player than Mahrez.
Marc Overmars
06-06-2016, 11:43 AM
So 60m for the lifeblood of a title winning team? Sign them up!
Niall_Quinn
06-06-2016, 11:43 AM
Very strange to be talking about Arsenal transfer business when it's not even the last 2 hours of the transfer window.
Anyway, if we land Vardy and he's serious about Mahrez too then add Xhaka into that mix and there's now way he could be planning on going with the same style of play. What would be the point? If Mahrez is not just some tabloid fantasy then we might be looking at getting back to proper football next season :pray:
Globalgunner
06-06-2016, 01:31 PM
Ospina looks set to leave (Goodbye). Does that mean the smoker from Roma comes back or do we need to get another keeper too?
Probably Ches is going to stick around.
Thought Chesney had said he wanted to stay with Roma.
Globalgunner
06-06-2016, 02:15 PM
Either way I think Ospina should leave. Just not good enough. Who else out there is young, capable and gettable?.
Thought Chesney had said he wanted to stay with Roma.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/szczesny-roma-making-me-better-goalkeeper-i-want-arsenal-number-one-shirt#:sVVw-TyhVVRBIA
I think Roma have recently brought a new keeper too. Maybe another loan but he wants to come back here at least. Not sure about Wenger.
Marc Overmars
06-06-2016, 03:11 PM
I don't mind Chesney sticking around. Could do worse as far as number 2 keepers go.
Japan Shaking All Over
06-06-2016, 05:22 PM
He does have a buyout clause - also £20mill. So does Kante :-) :haha:
Somebody didn't expect quite this much success when those contracts were being penned. I think the clauses only apply for clubs in the CL.
If Mahrez has anything like Vardys release clause then a move for the pair is a no brainier. 50, 60 million for the pair, I'm ok with that. If we sell Walnut to WHU especially for 25mil!? That will pay for one of them and then we really need to get a CB
Marc Overmars
06-06-2016, 05:35 PM
Mkhitaryan also linked today.
Him or Mahrez?
The Emirates Gallactico
06-06-2016, 07:55 PM
Theo to West Ham for 25 million doing the rounds right now.
Bite their hand off before they withdraw the offer!!!
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
06-06-2016, 08:01 PM
He does have a buyout clause - also £20mill. So does Kante :-) :haha:
Somebody didn't expect quite this much success when those contracts were being penned. I think the clauses only apply for clubs in the CL.
If that is true, what the fuck are we waiting for!??
Maestro
06-06-2016, 08:02 PM
Theo to West Ham for 25 million doing the rounds right now.
Bite their hand off before they withdraw the offer!!!
Too right, if that's all we have to pay them? then that's a good damn deal
Gooner23
06-06-2016, 08:11 PM
Mkhitaryan also linked today.
Him or Mahrez?
Wouldn't be disappointed with either but would prefer Mkhitaryan.
The Emirates Gallactico
06-06-2016, 09:08 PM
Wouldn't be disappointed with either but would prefer Mkhitaryan.
Same. May be wrong (haven't seen the stats) but seems more of a goal threat.
Mahrez is quality but Ozil gives us a lot of what Mahrez does already.
Same. May be wrong (haven't seen the stats) but seems more of a goal threat.
Mahrez is quality but Ozil gives us a lot of what Mahrez does already.
Mahrez does it out wide and scored a healthy amount of goals plus wouldn't need any sort of transition to the league, which can take a few months. I'd go for Mahrez myself, particularly given his understanding with Vardy. Still a long way to go for either of these deals to be sealed though.
I am invisible
07-06-2016, 07:42 AM
Either! Both!
If I absolutely had to pick one over the other I'd probably go with Mkhitaryan, just because I love how those Dortmund guys play, but these are two very strong options - I'd be more than happy with either.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
07-06-2016, 05:51 PM
Mahrez for me.... but I perhaps haven't seen Mickey enough.
Incidentally in terms of 1st team starters what are we looking at? A CB, CF and a wide forward....anyone think we need more?
Left back if Gibbs goes but I think that would be more than enough on one window. That Rodriguez guy has been touted recently. I'd don't think we'll get anymore then 3/4 though.
Shaqiri Is Boss
07-06-2016, 06:43 PM
United close to signing Eric Bailly (:unsure:) for £30m.
And City supposedly in talks for Aubamayang. Dortmund :rose:
The Emirates Gallactico
07-06-2016, 07:04 PM
Got a friend who's a massive Dortmund fan and he's close to tears right now. :lol::lol:
I do really feel sorry for them.
Power n Glory
07-06-2016, 07:16 PM
Word is Theo is staying. West Ham don't want him or Ox.
Did not see that coming at all. Team is being absolutely decimated.
Guardiola still ransacking Dortmund even after he's left Germany :lol:
Munchies
07-06-2016, 07:39 PM
Aubameyang to city?
FFS Wenger. Get him!
Put in a bid atleast, make it a choice
I am invisible
07-06-2016, 07:59 PM
Mahrez for me.... but I perhaps haven't seen Mickey enough.
Incidentally in terms of 1st team starters what are we looking at? A CB, CF and a wide forward....anyone think we need more?
Well the gaping holes in the squad were/are CF, CM and RB (assuming Debuchy isn't coming back). Possibly a backup GK too. Highly desirable upgrades and/or long term investments are CB, LB and Wide Attacker, although I think we might have another year's grace to sort those areas out, before they become a real problem. Would prefer to get it all done now, if the opportunites are there, but I suspect some of those moves would hinge on being able to move certain players on...
We're not going to match City's unlimited terms for Aubameyang.
alexander
07-06-2016, 08:00 PM
We're not going to match City's unlimited terms.
Some things we cant blame Wenger for.
selassie
07-06-2016, 08:14 PM
Aubameyang to city?
FFS Wenger. Get him!
Put in a bid atleast, make it a choice
He would choose them over us, Pep factor and they are seriously upgrading their team with bonafide worldies, they signed Gundogan the other week.
Marc Overmars
07-06-2016, 08:15 PM
Aubameyang. :(
Pep isn't messing around.
Japan Shaking All Over
07-06-2016, 08:49 PM
Got a friend who's a massive Dortmund fan and he's close to tears right now. :lol::lol:
I do really feel sorry for them.
Feel sorry for the PL more like......guy is quality and another we have missed the boat on......but as soon as Citeh showed a smidgen of interest it was all over
Now any sloppy seconds off of Citeh? Bony perhaps? Another who got shafted by Citeh......say we picked up Vardyband Bony, that wouldn't be so bad would it? I know people are going to slate Bony but he never played, given the chance the guy still has goals in him and those plus Giroud wouldn't be the worse cohort of strikers. Although admittedly can't see anything happening at the moment for us
Munchies
07-06-2016, 09:01 PM
This Vardy shit will drag on and we'll end up missing every striker out there!
The Postman is coming back atleast eh
Feel sorry for the PL more like......guy is quality and another we have missed the boat on......but as soon as Citeh showed a smidgen of interest it was all over
Now any sloppy seconds off of Citeh? Bony perhaps? Another who got shafted by Citeh......say we picked up Vardyband Bony, that wouldn't be so bad would it? I know people are going to slate Bony but he never played, given the chance the guy still has goals in him and those plus Giroud wouldn't be the worse cohort of strikers. Although admittedly can't see anything happening at the moment for us
We definitely can't compete with the sort of money City can throw at transfers like this. But Bony shouldn't even be considered. He had a good record at Swansea but I get the feeling he's one of those strikers that struggle when there is more expectation on them. Iheanacho had less playing time but had a better return, which I think is telling. Ideally we should be looking to get a striker that can get is a better return than Giroud's regular mid-teen numbers and I don't think Bony would do that.
Niall_Quinn
07-06-2016, 09:34 PM
Word is Theo is staying. West Ham don't want him or Ox.
Wasters.
Munchies
07-06-2016, 09:41 PM
The Mirror saying Tottenham are in for Jannsen for £12m!
https://twitter.com/MirrorDarren
Worth a punt and more ffs
Sissoko then spoke in glowing terms about Arsenal, with whom he has been linked. “It’s very flattering,” he said. “Arsenal is one of the best European clubs. Be followed by this kind of club, it’s good to know. I hope I will have a chance soon to play for this club or a similar club.
“I think few people would refuse to play for this club. The beautiful Arsenal. We’ll see. I cannot tell you that I will go to Arsenal. For now, I’m focused on France and Euro 2016.
:lol: Here's the answer.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
07-06-2016, 10:19 PM
Left back if Gibbs goes but I think that would be more than enough on one window. That Rodriguez guy has been touted recently. I'd don't think we'll get anymore then 3/4 though.
I meant First team starters.... So guys to come into the starting 11. Beyond that we are squad filling.
I meant First team starters.... So guys to come into the starting 11. Beyond that we are squad filling.
I think anything beyond 2/3 first team starters is pretty risky, what with the shortened time together post Euro's. A wide player, striker, Xhaka AND a new CB is almost half the team changed in one window.
So Aubameyang now being linked away, I was under the impression he wasn't for sale.
Problem with us is we never try our luck (except for cheap buys) and thus miss out and watch other teams improving whilst we get left behind.
Is Vardy (even he is stringing us along) really the best we can do? What happened to competing with the best....
We definitely can't compete with the sort of money City can throw at transfers like this. But Bony shouldn't even be considered. He had a good record at Swansea but I get the feeling he's one of those strikers that struggle when there is more expectation on them. Iheanacho had less playing time but had a better return, which I think is telling. Ideally we should be looking to get a striker that can get is a better return than Giroud's regular mid-teen numbers and I don't think Bony would do that.
You say that but clubs have to operate within certain budgets now and can't go too much into the red or they get fined and possibly banned from Europe, so that's not strictly true anymore.
I know we've signed Xhaka but I've never even seen him play (he's not exactly a household name), I personally think 33 million for a player who we've not really heard of is a hell of a lot, but ignoring that, I don't mind this signing, the striker situation however is a mess, being strung along by Vardy a journeman at best and missing out on better options from clubs who don't actually really need those options as much as us is frustrating.
Watching other clubs going after the player I'd like to see at the club whilst we go after players I don't want is very annoying, yes Wenger has his unique way but it's been proven to be a failure for so long now maybe he should at least try a different tactic.
You say that but clubs have to operate within certain budgets now and can't go too much into the red or they get fined and possibly banned from Europe, so that's not strictly true anymore.
I know we've signed Xhaka but I've never even seen him play (he's not exactly a household name), I personally think 33 million for a player who we've not really heard of is a hell of a lot, but ignoring that, I don't mind this signing, the striker situation however is a mess, being strung along by Vardy a journeman at best and missing out on better options from clubs who don't actually really need those options as much as us is frustrating.
Not anymore after UEFA relaxed the FFP rules after being challenged by City and PSG, who thought they were being unfairly treated. So it's pretty much back to how it was before Platini had his bright idea. Which is how City splurged £130m last summer in one window on just three players. Believe you me, no regular CL club is ever going to get banned from playing in Europe.
So we can't go toe to toe with City and teams bankrolled like that. If they want to offer £60m for one player, then we have no chance. We could afford that but then have to cut corners elsewhere I'd imagine. I don't think we'll ever be that club, no matter who the manager is or who runs the place.
Watching other clubs going after the player I'd like to see at the club whilst we go after players I don't want is very annoying, yes Wenger has his unique way but it's been proven to be a failure for so long now maybe he should at least try a different tactic.
I'm not exactly behind the idea of Vardy but it is a different approach and potentially a turnaround for Wenger in that regard. He's never been this quick to go for two big signings before. Never put this sort of offer down for a player at this age. And he's never gone to another Premier League club to try and sign the second highest scorer in the league, from the Champions. Whether we like the idea of Vardy coming, think he is worth the money or believe he will or won't work out is different. But what can't be said is that this doesn't seem like a new approach.
Maestro
08-06-2016, 12:30 PM
Worry not GWers, Kelechi Nwakali is here
Worry not GWers, Kelechi Nwakali is here
Sissoko was calling us out the other day too. Which was, erm, nice?
Maestro
08-06-2016, 12:56 PM
Sissoko was calling us out the other day too. Which was, erm, nice?
Yeah saw that and thought that was brazen
Aubameyang to City not looking as advanced as 'reported' yesterday.
Transfers :lol:
We should sign that Micky Targaryen bloke.
Marc Overmars
09-06-2016, 08:56 AM
Could be some legs in this one. Few of the rags reporting that we are considering a 25m offer.
Gooner23
09-06-2016, 09:36 AM
He would be a brilliant signing, not getting my hopes up too much though as I reckon plenty of other clubs will be in for him.
dostoy
09-06-2016, 12:08 PM
Where exactly would Henrikh Mkhitaryan play in our formation ?
I am invisible
09-06-2016, 12:16 PM
Left, right or centre - he's fairly ambidextrous, and a very good dribbler. I think he'd get goals and assists wherever you put him..,
Letters
09-06-2016, 12:23 PM
Left, right or centre - he's fairly ambidextrous
I'm not sure how him being able to write with both hands will be much of an asset to us tbh.
Xhaka Cant
09-06-2016, 12:25 PM
Left, right or centre - he's fairly ambidextrous, and a very good dribbler. I think he'd get goals and assists wherever you put him..,
What if you put him on a golf course?
Letters
09-06-2016, 12:30 PM
:haha:
Niall_Quinn
09-06-2016, 12:37 PM
I'm not sure how him being able to write with both hands will be much of an asset to us tbh.
Handy for making contract demands after 1 year with us. Theo could help him get the hang of it.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
09-06-2016, 12:44 PM
According to Evening Standard, Vardy has told England Team mates he wants to stay with Leicester and is 80% sure of this decision.
Which means he will probably join Man United in July.
Marc Overmars
09-06-2016, 01:04 PM
Silly cunt.
How the hell could they know that?
It's almost as if they're making stuff up when there is no news.
McNamara That Ghost...
09-06-2016, 01:27 PM
Why would you be 80% sure?
Letters
09-06-2016, 01:32 PM
How the hell could they know that?
It's almost as if they're making stuff up when there is no news.
How dare you besmirch the good name of the British Tabloid press? :sulk:
Maestro
09-06-2016, 01:57 PM
I'm not sure how him being able to write with both hands will be much of an asset to us tbh.
:haha::haha::haha::haha:
Oh damn that was a killer, was thinking exactly that
Why would you be 80% sure?
He's waiting for for someone at the club to say:
If you want to enjoy football, you have to join us. Here is the paradise.'
If they do he'll join.
According to Evening Standard, Vardy has told England Team mates he wants to stay with Leicester and is 80% sure of this decision.
Which means he will probably join Man United in July.
Not that surprised, I mean who is very keen and doesn't have other clubs after him would make a decision pretty quickly, clearly he's not that keen.
I'm happy enough though, didn't want him here, but we'll no doubt drag it out all summer pretending we're hopeful of signing even when he says he wants to stay at Leicsester.
Globalgunner
09-06-2016, 03:06 PM
Im 100% certain we can do better than Jamie Vardy.
Im 100% certain we can do better than Jamie Vardy.
Me too, he'll do us a favour if he turns us down, though anyone that argues that our stock hasn't fallen when a guy of his level turns us down would be deluded.
Letters
09-06-2016, 03:27 PM
Fallen since when? Since Sanchez joined?
Every case is individual, you can't infer anything from any singular case - unless you have some anti-Arsenal agenda of course which obviously no-one on here would have. Obviously.
Gooner23
09-06-2016, 03:33 PM
If we were to get Mkhitaryan plus an upgrade on Giroud by the end of the summer I'd be happy. Certainly won't be losing any sleep over Vardy, although its a little bit embarrassing this whole saga has been played out in public.
Problem is though, who actually is out there right now? I'd love to see us throw in a big bid for Aubameyang but unlikely he'd chose us if City are knocking at his door. Is Higuin an option? I'm not convinced about either Morata or Lukaku.
Power n Glory
09-06-2016, 03:45 PM
Me too, he'll do us a favour if he turns us down, though anyone that argues that our stock hasn't fallen when a guy of his level turns us down would be deluded.
I think he's a special case. We'll sign someone else. Time will only tell if our stock has fallen. I doubt it. We'll still lose out to the bigger clubs if we try to go toe to toe with them but I can't see a player choosing Liverpool or Spurs before they choose us.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
09-06-2016, 03:49 PM
I think he's a special case. We'll sign someone else. Time will only tell if our stock has fallen. I doubt it. We'll still lose out to the bigger clubs if we try to go toe to toe with them but I can't see a player choosing Liverpool or Spurs before they choose us.
No True, I think Man United is a different case though....i think a year ago even with their obscene Adidas money they would lose out to us, but even without Champions League money that psychopath Mourinho is a big drawer for players.
But yes although we are behind the two manchester clubs for definite, chelsea it is debatable although they have more money to spend and liverpool and spurs i think most players would rather sign for us than them.
If we were to get Mkhitaryan plus an upgrade on Giroud by the end of the summer I'd be happy. Certainly won't be losing any sleep over Vardy, although its a little bit embarrassing this whole saga has been played out in public.
Remember, it's been played out in public by the media whose interests it serves best.
Everything we've relied on so far is based on conjecture. I'm sure the bid is real, as there is rarely this much noise around a potential transfer without some truth but nothing beyond imaginary time deadlines and percentages. There is not a lot happening in the market and won't until after the Euro's when it will go mental, so this is perfect to elongate and create clicks and meaningless stories before the tournament kicks off.
Fallen since when? Since Sanchez joined?
Every case is individual, you can't infer anything from any singular case - unless you have some anti-Arsenal agenda of course which obviously no-one on here would have. Obviously.
Sanchez had two choices, Liverpool and us, both sides aren't particularly attractive propositions, but Liverpool at the time were even lower so it was an easy choice, he was surplus to requirmements at Barca.
But my point stands, I don't want Vardy here as I don't rate him so I'm happy enough, but when a player of his standard turns us down it doesn't say a lot about us.
I think he's a special case. We'll sign someone else. Time will only tell if our stock has fallen. I doubt it. We'll still lose out to the bigger clubs if we try to go toe to toe with them but I can't see a player choosing Liverpool or Spurs before they choose us.
I still think our stock has fallen, 10 years ago these players would have dropped everything to sign for us, now they have to think about it and turn us down. Suarez at Liverpool was another example, he could have pushed through a deal but chose to stick with it (despite the alleged clause), 10 years ago we'd have got him.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
09-06-2016, 04:05 PM
Sanchez had two choices, Liverpool and us, both sides aren't particularly attractive propositions, but Liverpool at the time were even lower so it was an easy choice, he was surplus to requirmements at Barca.
But my point stands, I don't want Vardy here as I don't rate him so I'm happy enough, but when a player of his standard turns us down it doesn't say a lot about us.
At the time?....at the time they had finished 2nd. And lots of silly people were raving about how good Brendan Rodgers was
If it happens the next time we try and buy someone i might take your point, but Vardy is also well known as saying he doesn't want to live in London.
If it happens the next time we try and buy someone i might take your point, but Vardy is also well known as saying he doesn't want to live in London.
I've never heard that to be honest, but if it is true what are we doing trying to sign him, pretty stupid really, either he's making mugs out of us or we're making mugs out of ourselves, neither scenario is great.
Reminds me of when we tried to sign Baptista from Seville after he insisted he wasn't leave Spain and Benzema last season (if you believe it) after he said he wasn't leaving, with both we carried on with the charade all summer despite knowing we had no chance.
Power n Glory
09-06-2016, 04:14 PM
I still think our stock has fallen, 10 years ago these players would have dropped everything to sign for us, now they have to think about it and turn us down. Suarez at Liverpool was another example, he could have pushed through a deal but chose to stick with it (despite the alleged clause), 10 years ago we'd have got him.
Suarez is a messy one. I think he'd have signed without fail if we'd have gone for him whilst at Ajax but it was always going to be difficult getting him from Liverpool. I think that situation was our fault more than the player not wanting a move. We smacked them in the face with a cheeky bid and they told us to fuck off. If we were serious about that move we'd have not been so cheeky or at least upped the bid when it looked like it they weren't budging.
fakeyank
09-06-2016, 04:21 PM
I've never heard that to be honest, but if it is true what are we doing trying to sign him, pretty stupid really, either he's making mugs out of us or we're making mugs out of ourselves, neither scenario is great.
Reminds me of when we tried to sign Baptista from Seville after he insisted he wasn't leave Spain and Benzema last season (if you believe it) after he said he wasn't leaving, with both we carried on with the charade all summer despite knowing we had no chance.
But then if Wenger doesnt go for targets like these, how else will he write a book on all the failed transfers? We were supposed to have Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi, Backenbauer, Pele and Maradona, had it not been for bad luck!
Suarez is a messy one. I think he'd have signed without fail if we'd have gone for him whilst at Ajax but it was always going to be difficult getting him from Liverpool. I think that situation was our fault more than the player not wanting a move. We smacked them in the face with a cheeky bid and they told us to fuck off. If we were serious about that move we'd have not been so cheeky or at least upped the bid when it looked like it they weren't budging.
Yes I agree mainly because footballers seem to want to play in the PL, but when we tried at Liverpool I think he knew he could do better than us so wasn't too fussed either way, a year later he was off to Barca a move no footballer turns down due to their reputation and drive to succeed.
Yes we were to blame, we tried to be clever and made ourselves look really petty in the process.
But then if Wenger doesnt go for targets like these, how else will he write a book on all the failed transfers? We were supposed to have Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi, Backenbauer, Pele and Maradona, had it not been for bad luck!
Very true, I blame the ref.
I still think our stock has fallen, 10 years ago these players would have dropped everything to sign for us, now they have to think about it and turn us down. Suarez at Liverpool was another example, he could have pushed through a deal but chose to stick with it (despite the alleged clause), 10 years ago we'd have got him.
What do you think about mkhitaryan coming to us?
What do you think about mkhitaryan coming to us?
I'd like him to come, scores goals from midfield, a rare commodity, with 1 yesr left should be an easy deal to seal unless the likes of Chelsea get involved in which case I feat there will only be one winner.
Xhaka Cant
09-06-2016, 04:47 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha:
Oh damn that was a killer, was thinking exactly that
You and Letters are like twins.
I am invisible
09-06-2016, 04:50 PM
I'm not sure how him being able to write with both hands will be much of an asset to us tbh.
Yeah, I couldn't think what the foot version was... then I remembered it was just 'two-footed'!
I'm too old and set in my ways to be editing things and correcting myself - just tell him he's playing in goal if he signs, so my post makes more sense...
Shaqiri Is Boss
09-06-2016, 05:41 PM
You and Letters are like twins.
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/530782ad6da811fa2d898df0/arnold-schwarzenegger-wants-to-do-a-twins-sequel-with-eddie-murphy.jpg
Power n Glory
09-06-2016, 05:48 PM
Yes I agree mainly because footballers seem to want to play in the PL, but when we tried at Liverpool I think he knew he could do better than us so wasn't too fussed either way, a year later he was off to Barca a move no footballer turns down due to their reputation and drive to succeed.
Yes we were to blame, we tried to be clever and made ourselves look really petty in the process.
Yeah, I don't think it took a lot of convincing that he'd be able to make a move to Spain. We'd have always been a stop gap for him. But I really have no idea why he wasn't on our radar before his move to Liverpool. Same goes for Torres.
Gooner23
09-06-2016, 05:52 PM
Remember, it's been played out in public by the media whose interests it serves best.
Everything we've relied on so far is based on conjecture. I'm sure the bid is real, as there is rarely this much noise around a potential transfer without some truth but nothing beyond imaginary time deadlines and percentages. There is not a lot happening in the market and won't until after the Euro's when it will go mental, so this is perfect to elongate and create clicks and meaningless stories before the tournament kicks off.
I wasn't necesarily blaming the club as it's very un-Arsenal like for it to be played out so openly. It wont be as bad as the Suarez fiasco, but we'll still be mocked if he turns us down.
I wasn't necesarily blaming the club as it's very un-Arsenal like for it to be played out so openly. It wont be as bad as the Suarez fiasco, but we'll still be mocked if he turns us down.
Yeah you're right, that will happen if he does decide otherwise - that is if the decision hasn't already been made.
And yes, it can't be as bad the Suarez thing. That was amateurish at best.
Marc Overmars
09-06-2016, 06:13 PM
Watford reject a £20m bid from Leicester for Deeney. :lol:
Niall_Quinn
09-06-2016, 06:23 PM
20mill for Deeney? :doh:
Crazy market. At this level of insanity we might get £50 or even more for Theo.
Niall_Quinn
09-06-2016, 06:24 PM
Also sound like Leicester are in the process of making Vardy's mind up for him. They don't need Deeney if Vardy is staying, do they? Not at £20mill.
Watford reject a £20m bid from Leicester for Deeney. :lol:
That makes me think Vardy has decided to come but it's kept quiet so Leicester can get a replacement.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
09-06-2016, 06:49 PM
Should have just made the Northern bastard make decision before England's first game. We may end up looking total mugs here.
Master Splinter
09-06-2016, 06:51 PM
That makes me think Vardy has decided to come but it's kept quiet so Leicester can get a replacement.
This news has edged Vardy 26.8% closer to an Arsenal switch, according to my sources close to the ice-cream van outside the England team's hotel.
That was definitely Rooney then.
Xhaka Cant
09-06-2016, 08:37 PM
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/530782ad6da811fa2d898df0/arnold-schwarzenegger-wants-to-do-a-twins-sequel-with-eddie-murphy.jpg
:haha:
Gooner23
09-06-2016, 09:57 PM
:haha: 20 mil for Deeney
What on earth is going on at the moment!
:haha: 20 mil for Deeney
What on earth is going on at the moment!
It's mental. That's £2m for each month he was sentenced to prison.
Niall_Quinn
09-06-2016, 10:40 PM
This news has edged Vardy 26.8% closer to an Arsenal switch, according to my sources close to the ice-cream van outside the England team's hotel.
Ice cream and source :bow:
Marc Overmars
09-06-2016, 10:43 PM
:haha: 20 mil for Deeney
What on earth is going on at the moment!
The fact a club like Watford can afford to reject £20m tells you everything you need to know about the financial health of PL clubs these days. It's crazy.
Munchies
09-06-2016, 10:57 PM
Watford reject a £20m bid from Leicester for Deeney. :lol:
Don't know what's more weird
Watford rejecting that or Lester bidding it
If it was closer to the £15m reported elsewhere, then it might make more sense.
Flamini has been officially released.
mastermind84
13-06-2016, 10:34 AM
:haha: 20 mil for Deeney
What on earth is going on at the moment!
20 million is not a lot of money to premiership clubs.
Niall_Quinn
13-06-2016, 11:54 AM
Flamini has been officially released.
Cheeky bid to get him back?
Globalgunner
13-06-2016, 12:22 PM
Why doesnt he just buy Stan out and then give himself a 5 year contract with guaranteed starts.?.
He's not a billionaire yet
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
14-06-2016, 09:30 AM
Why doesnt he just buy Stan out and then give himself a 5 year contract with guaranteed starts.?.
Plus Kroenke will never sell Arsenal, that's something we have to accept. Kroenke doesn't sell, because the value of the asset is worth far more to him than the money he'd receive for selling it.
Marc Overmars
15-06-2016, 08:07 AM
Mkhitarayan wants to join United according to his agent.
Niall_Quinn
15-06-2016, 08:08 AM
Mkhitarayan wants to join United according to his agent.
Mkhitarayan's agent is a greedy cunt who will flog the player to the highest bidder, according to me.
Mkhitarayan wants to join United according to his agent.
Oh dear, would have mde a good signing, again you have to question our appeal if we can't attract these players, having said that Man U have Mourinho who is a big draw for players.
Shame about this one, goalscoring midfielders are like gold dust, I was hopeful about this one, this could turn out to be another one of those summers.
Mkhitarayan's agent is a greedy cunt who will flog the player to the highest bidder, according to me.
All agents will, but at the end of the day the player will choose the team he wants to play for and our lack of success will count against us when other big clubs are interested, coming 2dn/3rd/4th is all very good but it won't help you attract top players if you never convert that into success.
Globalgunner
15-06-2016, 09:26 AM
Mkhitarayan's agent is a greedy cunt who will flog the player to the highest bidder, according to me.
Yes the agent is a cunt and so is Miki if he doesnt join us
Walcott please go..anywhere will do. Have you no shame?
Apparently Mkhitaryan won't be allowed to leave until the end of his contract, so in January Man U wil snap him up for free.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan will not be allowed to leave Borussia Dortmund until the end of his existing contract amid interest from Manchester United and Arsenal, the club's CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke has confirmed.
Yes the agent is a cunt and so is Miki if he doesnt join us
Walcott please go..anywhere will do. Have you no shame?
Desperate for Walcott to leave, he's not at the Euros for no reason why he's not gone yet, is Wenger going to keep hold of him, I really hope not.
This summer is beginning to look very familiar, I can remember when we signed Podolski at the start of the summer and we thought it was the beginning of a good transfer window, we did something similar a few seasons later and then signed noone until near the end.
We can't compete with the big clubs for players, for that reason we should be going in agressively to sign them up before anyone else goes for them.
Oh sorry my mistake we've also signed Kelechi Nwakali, clearly things are different.
Chippy
15-06-2016, 09:50 AM
Oh dear, would have mde a good signing, again you have to question our appeal if we can't attract these players, having said that Man U have Mourinho who is a big draw for players.
Shame about this one, goalscoring midfielders are like gold dust, I was hopeful about this one, this could turn out to be another one of those summers.
It looked as if we were going to have a really good summer with regards to strengthening the squad.....but it is going to be business as usual! The board and Wenger will not go the extra mile to sign the players we need. Hopefully we have just one more year of this rubbish. Wenger and Stan the Man OUT!
Chippy
15-06-2016, 10:06 AM
What's the extra mile?
Slightly more than the player is worth?
Unlike the extra £1.00 offered for Suarez.
Joke of a club.
Joke of a club!
Well the Suarez thing was bloody stupid but I meant more about these deals that we are apparently interested in.
selassie
15-06-2016, 10:23 AM
Mkhitarayan's agent is a greedy cunt who will flog the player to the highest bidder, according to me.
Which places us at the bottom of the list of clubs interested.
Marcotti has said that he's been flogged around to City, Utd and Chelsea - he basically wants the biggest pay day going, probably looking at £200k plus wages. That's us out.
Chippy
15-06-2016, 10:26 AM
Joke of a club!
Well the Suarez thing was bloody stupid but I meant more about these deals that we are apparently interested in.
I cannot give you a specific response, however, from past transfer dealings, we always seem offer "Under" the asking price.
Just pay the money ffs!
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