Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Niall_Quinn]

We're being linked with Higuain again.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/482793/Gonzalo-Higuain-drops-exit-hint-as-Arsenal-Chelsea-and-Man-Utd-monitor-situation

Napoli want more than they paid for him.

Wenger was haggling over £27m.

No chance

The Express :haha:

I remember that!

[Özim]

The Express :haha:

I remember that!

It's like the Orient Express minus the Orient! :haha:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Absolutely no point in going in for draxler.

He wants a move to Bayern or similar anyway.
Plus schalke are gonna fuck anyone interested, over on the fee as well.

But knowing how we operate, we'll spend the entire window trying to haggle the price down, fail and then tell everyone that there was no one sleaze available and we didn't have any time left.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

That's not really what I was getting at. What I was trying to say was that, even if Balotelli has matured as a player and sorted his attitude out, there's still going to be instances where he loses control every now and then - I think that's almost inevitable when the whole footballing world sees you as an easy target, and every opponent is trying to wind you up - so at that point it becomes a question of whether his output as a player would make up for what would (hopefully) be a far more occasional losses of control? I mentioned Suarez and Costa as examples of what we might be looking at in terms of that balance: players who still have a bit of a fiery, wild side, and who occasionally do the odd stupid thing, but who make up for it by smashing in 30+ goals a season, and generally being great players. If we could get Balotelli to that same sort of level with his behaviour on the pitch - not perfect, but in control 90% of the time, and doing the business - then would that be enough to make him worthwhile?

Balotelli is a liability. If he isn't causing problems on the pitch he's causing problems off it.

What is the point of spunking money on a player that won't be on the pitch half the time because he'll be serving suspensions?
What do we do when we're in the trenches trying to grind a win out, and we have the worst possible striker for that?
What do we do when he has fights and arguments with our own players in training, causing unrest and disharmony?

He's uncommitted, moody and has a bad temper.

The costs outweigh the benefits. Stay well clear.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Evening Standard rehashing the stuff about Balotelli. Don't think there's any new stuff in that.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-make-enquiry-for-mario-balotelli-as-ac-milan-place-30m-price-tag-on-striker-9544811.html


NQ will be delighted but apparently Wenger singled out Pogba for profuse praise recently on French TV. Cheeky bid on the cards.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Pogba, the second coming of PaddyV or third if you count Diaby, should have been snapped up before Juve stepped in....,forget it now, serious bucks needed.

The 'are you ready for another dose if BS' Metro had said we are looking at Lavezzi now

[Master Splinter]

there was no one sleaze available

Cisc was. And thankfully we told him to piss off.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Pogba is the sort of major French talent Wenger would have bought years ago if he wanted to. He wouldn't pay the coins now I suspect..... Plus Diaby is the new Vieira and Wenger won't have two of them will he.....

Just sign a competent holding midfielder Wenger ffs......Mavuba, M'vila, Gustavo..... it doesn't have to be a superstar. A pass and move,stay disciplined, keep the shape, cover for the runner in a nutshell type of player. Too many years faffing about making do....


Besides Balotelli's impressive rapsheet I do have the slight feeling in my head that he does drift out of games a little, which I was reminded of against England. That said I would still be delighted if we signed him, despite the risk and record because we are dreadfully in need of quality and look nothing like doing any sort of deal right now.....

Personally I was not happy for us to pursue Suarez (even though I thought that since we had, it should have been more concerted) and at least Mario isn't a bitey racist.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why don't we rob the club and use the proceeds to buy decent players? We could get Brad Pitt and George Clooney to help. And I could masquerade as Julia Robert's sex toy - although how old is she now? We might have to get Natalie Portman. It's a good plan.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Daily Star has us linked to that Mexican keeper.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/384404/Mexico-star-Guillermo-Ochoa-closes-in-on-Arsenal-move-after-issuing-Champions-League-plea


Apparently we've been "monitoring" him.

You couldn't make this up. Oh wait .........


They probably hadn't heard of him until yesterday.

[Munchies]

Daily Star has us linked to that Mexican keeper.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/384404/Mexico-star-Guillermo-Ochoa-closes-in-on-Arsenal-move-after-issuing-Champions-League-plea


Apparently we've been "monitoring" him.

You couldn't make this up. Oh wait .........


They probably hadn't heard of him until yesterday.

:lol:

His save wasn't even that good tbf

But typical Wenger signing

[Master Splinter]

But typical Wenger signing

What isn't a typical Wenger signing these days? They seem to range from ex-Premier League players, current Premier League players, players who have one good performance at a World Cup, expensive world stars, inexpensive young talents, green-haired albinos to nine foot dwarves.

[I am invisible]

Well, Le-Grove (http://le-grove.co.uk/2014/06/19/half-forwards-were-chasing-revealed/) have finally come up with some names - Reus and Sanchez they reckon (although probably not both): Reus because his release clause will kick in next summer, and Dortmund may be tempted to cash in now for a higher fee; Sanchez because he wants out of Barca, and Barca might be after Reus...

[Özim]

Daily Star has us linked to that Mexican keeper.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/384404/Mexico-star-Guillermo-Ochoa-closes-in-on-Arsenal-move-after-issuing-Champions-League-plea


Apparently we've been "monitoring" him.

You couldn't make this up. Oh wait .........


They probably hadn't heard of him until yesterday.

He's free, plays in the French league, sounds like a very feasible signing to me.

[Munchies]

Well, Le-Grove (http://le-grove.co.uk/2014/06/19/half-forwards-were-chasing-revealed/) have finally come up with some names - Reus and Sanchez they reckon (although probably not both): Reus because his release clause will kick in next summer, and Dortmund may be tempted to cash in now for a higher fee; Sanchez because he wants out of Barca, and Barca might be after Reus...

Either one :cloud9:

[I am invisible]

Either one :cloud9:

BOTH! NOW!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

Pogba, Sanchez, Hummels, Griezmann, Schweinsteiger, Balotelli, Messi, Ronaldo, RvC and Cesc and I'll be happy.

[Fist of Lehmann]

le-grove also said they couldn't talk about names in case it jeopardised the deal.

Now suddenly they can? Was the hit count dying off?

Modern day equivalent of Clubcall off of Teletext.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Pogba, Sanchez, Hummels, Griezmann, Schweinsteiger, Balotelli, Messi, Ronaldo, RvC and Cesc and I'll be happy.

Anything less than Dino Zoff, Daniel Passarella, Zinedine Zidane, Cafu, Jarzinho and Diego Maradonna and i'll be steaming

[I am invisible]

le-grove also said they couldn't talk about names in case it jeopardised the deal.

Now suddenly they can? Was the hit count dying off?

Modern day equivalent of Clubcall off of Teletext.

That or the deals are already dead, and in no danger of being jeopardised...

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Pogba, Sanchez, Hummels, Griezmann, Schweinsteiger, Balotelli, Messi, Ronaldo, RvC and Cesc and I'll be happy.

You forgot a world class goal keeper in that list. :sulk:



Good of Le Grove to finally name his "names". Both undoubtedly world class talent though and would be highly welcomed. I think Reus is simply impossible - he's too well coveted and we don't represent enough of a step up from Dortumund for him to specifically choose us ahead of a Barca or Real.

Sanchez is a possibility but if he keeps putting in the world class performances he has been during the world cup Barca may just change his mind and keep him. They're batshit insane in the first place to let him go (assuming it's all true).


Either way we need to actually deliver on something. Another seasons of trying but succeeding simply won't be acceptable. Move hard, fastand decisively and if you can't get your target look for something as close to it. E.g. - If Sanchez/Reus fails we need to be all over Greizzeman in a flash.

[I am invisible]

Anything less than Dino Zoff, Daniel Passarella, Zinedine Zidane, Cafu, Jarzinho and Diego Maradonna and i'll be steaming

Well Jarzinho is 69, and Maradonna is a fat, shit, drug addict now, so I wouldn't rule it out? Both are out of contract too, so the price is right! Doubt we'd be able to get Zizou away from Madrid though...

[I am invisible]

You forgot a world class goal keeper in that list. :sulk:



Good of Le Grove to finally name his "names". Both undoubtedly world class talent though and would be highly welcomed. I think Reus is simply impossible - he's too well coveted and we don't represent enough of a step up from Dortumund for him to specifically choose us ahead of a Barca or Real.

Sanchez was a possibility but if he keeps putting in the world class performances he has been during the world cup Barca may just change his mind and keep him. They're batshit insane in the first place to let him go (assuming it's all true).


Either way we need to actually deliver on something. Another seasons of trying but succeeding simply won't be acceptable. Move hard, fastand decisively and if you can't get your target look for something as close to it. E.g. - If Sanchez/Reus fails we need to be all over Greizzeman in a flash.

Goalkeepers are for cowards!

[I am invisible]

You forgot a world class goal keeper in that list. :sulk:



Good of Le Grove to finally name his "names". Both undoubtedly world class talent though and would be highly welcomed. I think Reus is simply impossible - he's too well coveted and we don't represent enough of a step up from Dortumund for him to specifically choose us ahead of a Barca or Real.

Sanchez is a possibility but if he keeps putting in the world class performances he has been during the world cup Barca may just change his mind and keep him. They're batshit insane in the first place to let him go (assuming it's all true).


Either way we need to actually deliver on something. Another seasons of trying but succeeding simply won't be acceptable. Move hard, fastand decisively and if you can't get your target look for something as close to it. E.g. - If Sanchez/Reus fails we need to be all over Greizzeman in a flash.

It sounds like they're trying to do that - we now know we went for Draxler in January, and, if these links are to be believed, then it looks like we've now switched targets to Reus (possible Puma link again?), with Sanchez as another option if we can't get the German. I don't know how much truth there is to our interest in Griezmann and Remy either, but I suppose they might be further options, who sit further and further down the quality scale? As you say though, trying and succeeding are two very different things, and we've now got a very nervy wait to see if our negotiating teams have learned anything from last summer...

[selassie]

You forgot a world class goal keeper in that list. :sulk:



Good of Le Grove to finally name his "names". Both undoubtedly world class talent though and would be highly welcomed. I think Reus is simply impossible - he's too well coveted and we don't represent enough of a step up from Dortumund for him to specifically choose us ahead of a Barca or Real.

Sanchez is a possibility but if he keeps putting in the world class performances he has been during the world cup Barca may just change his mind and keep him. They're batshit insane in the first place to let him go (assuming it's all true).


Either way we need to actually deliver on something. Another seasons of trying but succeeding simply won't be acceptable. Move hard, fastand decisively and if you can't get your target look for something as close to it. E.g. - If Sanchez/Reus fails we need to be all over Greizzeman in a flash.

:gp:

[Niall_Quinn]

What time on what day does the window close?

5 minutes before that is when we'll swoop.

[I am invisible]

We are the Ebay of the football world.

[fakeyank]

:gp:

So freaking true.. :lol:

[Munchies]

BREAKING NEWS: Joleon Lescott having a medical at West Brom.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqfs_HSCUAEcfWw.png

:haha:

Surprised Wenger isn't going for him!

[I am invisible]

Good Lord! Gigantism!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So Reus or Sachez makes us forget Cesc, a world class forward or any other top player?

I'd be amazed if we managed to do a deal for Reus. Maybe Sanchez if Barca are feeling charitable but just because they sold Cesc, doesn't mean they are about to have a car boot sale..... even if most of their players could actually fit in an oversized car boot.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We are the Ebay of the football world.

:lol: Super analogy, I will be stealing that.

[selassie]

BREAKING NEWS: Joleon Lescott having a medical at West Brom.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqfs_HSCUAEcfWw.png

:haha:

Surprised Wenger isn't going for him!

:lol:

Wages were probably too high!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Lescott having a medical at West Brom. His wage demands can't be that steep.

Is he really not a good enough 4th choice?

[GP]

Lescott having a medical at West Brom. His wage demands can't be that steep.

Is he really not a good enough 4th choice?

Well, his wage damands might not be too steep for a first choice player. But for a 4th choice? Who knows.

Maybe he doesn't want to be a 4th choice player, which he certainly would be here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Lescott having a medical at West Brom. His wage demands can't be that steep.

Is he really not a good enough 4th choice?

Coming off a gypo paypacket, even a 50% cut would leave it high. We should be looking at younger players anyway, who can work with Kos and Merts and eventually step into their shoes.

[I am invisible]

Agreed.

[Marc Overmars]

Metro have us linked with Ivanovic.

Mourinho selling to us. :lol:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Metro kills me....never going to happen and would prefer it didn't too

[selassie]

Metro kills me....never going to happen and would prefer it didn't too

Really? I would take Ivanovic, he's a very good player IMO. But I agree it's "pie in the sky" type stuff.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I hear he is pretty tasty.

[GP]

Hot Pie :bow:

[fakeyank]

Not one player signed and its almost the end of June.

Again, we will buy players at the last moment and Wenger will say "It takes at least 6-12 months for a player to bed in". Pre-season will be with Sanogo and Campbell up front. Same shit every freaking year!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Ivanovic is a fantastic player and can play anywhere at the back so I'm not sure why anyone would not want him, but it's never going to happen.

I don't actually think Lescott would expect to be 4th choice (no matter what we think about where he should be) and I'm not sure many players really do. They see their chance to progress and surely all he wants is a fair chance to stake a claim on merit rather than just be forgotten about at the back of a long queue as a matter of course.

It's either that or completely forgetting about playing football at the top level.

I'm all for budding and promising young CB's being 4th choice.....but when we have them we often loan them out which is precisely why Miquel is nowhere to be seen. Also it is very difficult to tell how good they actually are....and the young CB's the world over with the highest repute would come for a significant fee which does not equate to being 4th choice (or something that Wenger will really entertain either)......so it isn't as easy a position to fill as it seems with promising young CB's. I'm not against it but I do think a player like Lescott shouldn't automatically be discounted.....he did play for a title winning team regularly once upon a time, however artificially manufactured.

I thought Eliaquim Mangala would be a good shout until Emirates Gooner told me his price tag is similar to Balotelli's and I have confined the thought to my minds 101 room ever since. That goes some way to showing the issue though....

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Really? I would take Ivanovic, he's a very good player IMO. But I agree it's "pie in the sky" type stuff.

Yeah I have just never given him much thought.....is versatile though which is what Wenger often looks for

[milla]

Hot Pie :bow:

:drool:

[Niall_Quinn]

:drool:

With coffee

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I thought the transfer window opened 1st July officially? Or am I wrong?
Not one player signed and its almost the end of June.

Again, we will buy players at the last moment and Wenger will say "It takes at least 6-12 months for a player to bed in". Pre-season will be with Sanogo and Campbell up front. Same shit every freaking year!

[Niall_Quinn]

No, last day of the season until end of August

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Looking more and more like Campbell is a must keep

[kas]

Senderos & Djorou - bring em back!

[Bergkampwonderland10]

No, last day of the season until end of August

Oh ok, in that case…why haven't we signed anyone yet?
We've released Fabianski, Bendtner, 'Sagna' and managed with only 3 CBs and 1 out and out striker….so lots of room for squad improvement now…think Monreal might be on his way out too…he's a weak link for us.

I wish we had demanded Pogba as part of the Van Persie deal…Wenger caved in way too easily to Fergie's phone call. Anyway...
Double swoop for Remy and Cesar at QPR should be no more than 13million outlay (although I'd still get Begovic to challenge for number 1)
Hope for a bid for Caulker at 8million and at 22 looks very good and would be excellent back up. Keep Vermaelen out of Man Utd unless they give us 5million plus Hernandez….then find a versatile defender to replace him.
Buy Aurier for 10milliion as he looks like the only fullback who can cross a ball in…would be brilliant for any striker but particularly Giroud. He seems to defend quite well too.
Buy Alexi Sanchez if Barca sell him…pure quality!! Would improve us immensely and if he cost 30million, pay it. Brilliant player.
Buy Balotelli for 23million
Draxler deal seems dead in water. But Reus would be brilliant for our Midfield and we would forget Cesc in an instant.

Dick Law get moving please.
Squad maybe?

Szcezney
Begovic (or Cesar)

Aurier
Jenkinson/Bellerin
or Montoya from Barca (isn't his contract ending?)

Mertesacker
Koscielny
Caulker
Vermaelen (?)

Gibbs
Contraeo/Davide Santon

Ox
Gnabry
Cazorla
Ramsey
Wilshere
Ozil
Rosicky (15games perhaps)
Arteta
Flamini
Reus (?)
Bender (?)
Sanchez (?)

Walcott
Podolski
Giroud
Balotelli
Remy / Hernandez
Joel Campbell
( I like Sanogo but he needs to go out on loan in the premiership to someone like West Brom)


Have I got too many players??

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

http://i.imgur.com/0zd0cLv.png

[Niall_Quinn]

So it begins:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2663432/Barcelona-beat-Real-Madrid-52m-signing-Luis-Suarez-Liverpool-hero-prepares-swap-Premier-League-La-Liga.html

[fakeyank]

I thought the transfer window opened 1st July officially? Or am I wrong?
I think it is.. but then I think about Cesc in the Chelsea shirt and I think otherwise.

Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk

[Munchies]

The official announcing of deals is July, but like the Fabregas move, it can all be completed well before.

[fakeyank]

Dont know how reliable Metro is or which newspaper you Brits actually consider worthwhile...

Anyway, just to liven this thread up a bit... Aurier is definitely coming home :rolleyes:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/21/serge-aurier-agrees-personal-terms-with-arsenal-ahead-of-8million-transfer-4770709/

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Here's to hoping....

[Niall_Quinn]

Dont know how reliable Metro is or which newspaper you Brits actually consider worthwhile...

Anyway, just to liven this thread up a bit... Aurier is definitely coming home :rolleyes:

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/21/serge-aurier-agrees-personal-terms-with-arsenal-ahead-of-8million-transfer-4770709/

Do you have Andrex toilet roll (tissue) over there?

Well the Metro is almost as reputable as Andrex after it has been used and flushed.

As such, it is one of Britain's more reputable newspapers.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Do you have Andrex toilet roll (tissue) over there?

Well the Metro is almost as reputable as Andrex after it has been used and flushed.

As such, it is one of Britain's more reputable newspapers.

:haha:

[fakeyank]

Looks like Balo is also coming home :lol:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/mario-balotelli-transfer-arsenal-boss-3741478

[Injury Time]

Looks like Balo is also coming home :lol:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/mario-balotelli-transfer-arsenal-boss-3741478
He'll sign for Chelsea 31st August as his aura manager says blue suits him more than red :coffee:, but Kallstrom will be in his stride and have secured a late equaliser against Leicester eased our concerns that him and the Greek kid were just token signings...the push for fourth continues...

[Injury Time]

http://www.betsplayer.com/football/city-beat-off-gunners-to-land-keeper/?
Oh, missed the links before we missed out tbf :blink:

[Injury Time]

:blah: as if
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/arsenal-told-they-ll-have-to-up-offer-by-10m-after-player-s-good-

[Injury Time]

More like it...
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chelsea-set-oust-arsenal-race-sign-ezequiel-lavezzi-after-beginning-talks-psg-1453664?

[I am invisible]

Not too fussed about Lavezzi - would have been a decent addition a couple of years ago, but he's gonna be 30 this year, so I wouldn't be going all out for him.

Not really seen anything of that Malaga keeper, but the price looks ok for what we're after. Are we still looking at that Colombian keeper (Ospina, was it?), who plays for Nice? He looked ok in the one Colombia game I've watched.

Fantasy Football time: Di Maria vs Reus vs Sanchez - which way would you go, if we're seriously after one of those guys and prepared to spend big on them? (Obviously, when you're an Arsenal fan, the correct answer is 'Any of them! Oh please God, any of them!')

[AFC Leveller]

Sanchez would be perfect for us and exactly what we need. He is lethal, fast, clever and for a stiny guy, excellent in the air.

which is why we wont get him!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

1) Reus
2) Sanchez
3) Di Maria
4) Greizemann
5) Draxler

Obviously I would be overjoyed at any of them but I guess at this point it seems like choosing the five hottest birds in the world you'd shag.

[I am invisible]

Sanchez and Di Maria are hot shit right now, but I'd probably put Reus top because he does it season after season. And I'd probably go with Sanchez over Di Maria as second choice, purely because he goes for goal more - really very little to choose between any of them though...

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Reus would be top for me too, but in Gallactico's list I'd have Draxler much higher with Reus....

[sibreen]

Suppose that in this transfer window we spent 50m on Balotelli, Remy, Aurier, and a backup goalkeeper, and that there were no further transfers in or out: what would the general reaction be?

I would be torn between feeling great that Arsenal who never spend any money have spent 50m on good players in what are key positions for us; but I would also be disappointed that there isn't an uber-player coming in, and that the clubs around us would have spent similar amounts of money.

But, I wonder if this disappointment would be a little unfair on the club..

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

It is arguably fairer to ignore the money spent and simply consider whether we have filled the positions in the squad or not. Regardless of any numbers if we go into the next season without a proper DM a RB and a CF you really do have to question the strategy being employed here.

[Syn]

How is Balotelli not an "uber-player"? I'd be happy with those signings but we'd be missing a reliable DM. Don't feel comfortable in getting 50+ games between Arteta and Flamini.

[GP]

Khedira, tbh

[fakeyank]

Suppose that in this transfer window we spent 50m on Balotelli, Remy, Aurier, and a backup goalkeeper, and that there were no further transfers in or out: what would the general reaction be?

I would be torn between feeling great that Arsenal who never spend any money have spent 50m on good players in what are key positions for us; but I would also be disappointed that there isn't an uber-player coming in, and that the clubs around us would have spent similar amounts of money.

But, I wonder if this disappointment would be a little unfair on the club..

I'd wake up from my dream..

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Suppose that in this transfer window we spent 50m on Balotelli, Remy, Aurier, and a backup goalkeeper, and that there were no further transfers in or out: what would the general reaction be?

I would be torn between feeling great that Arsenal who never spend any money have spent 50m on good players in what are key positions for us; but I would also be disappointed that there isn't an uber-player coming in, and that the clubs around us would have spent similar amounts of money.

But, I wonder if this disappointment would be a little unfair on the club..

Aurier fills a open space so we shouldn't expect anything less......

I am warming to the Balotelli move.....the guy has 'I'm nuts and have a ton of baggage' but I am praying that these traits can be negated by his brilliance....we need a match winner and if he comes with a bit of attitude it adds to it....my worry is his on pitch mood swings but there is no doubt that he would make us stronger.

Now Remy is another who it feel we could afford to bring in...along with Bug Sexy we would have a quality rotation but is Wenger thinking Campbell could be our third choice? I can see him doing so but whoever comes in Remy or whoever stays Campbell it may be out wide they ply their trade.

Now if it were those three I would be happy but we need a CM of a defensive nature so true happiness would be on ice. I think we need to address that too

GK is another need but I can see loan sufficing

[Globalgunner]

We really should be rescuing Stekelenburg from his Fulham quagmire. A good keeper who would be eager to prove himself all over again. Scz could learn some things from having him here too. Guarantee Stekenburg both domestic cup games. £5m, 50kpw. Job done

[Injury Time]

We really should be rescuing Stekelenburg from his Fulham quagmire. A good keeper who would be eager to prove himself all over again. Scz could learn some things from having him here too. Guarantee Stekenburg both domestic cup games. £5m, 50kpw. Job done
[mode=pushforfourth@balancethebooks]Butt Casillyarse is on a free next season[/this mode never ends]

[selassie]

Suppose that in this transfer window we spent 50m on Balotelli, Remy, Aurier, and a backup goalkeeper, and that there were no further transfers in or out: what would the general reaction be?

I would be torn between feeling great that Arsenal who never spend any money have spent 50m on good players in what are key positions for us; but I would also be disappointed that there isn't an uber-player coming in, and that the clubs around us would have spent similar amounts of money.

But, I wonder if this disappointment would be a little unfair on the club..

That should be the bare minimum in terms of numbers and type of quality although I find it highly unlikely we'll do all of that business.

At best we are looking at Balotelli and a backup keeper, the rest of the positions will most likely be "patched" up so to speak.

I mean we haven't even signed a backup keeper yet, does it really take this long to identify a target and make a move?

[Fist of Lehmann]

Aurier fills a open space so we shouldn't expect anything less......

I am warming to the Balotelli move.....the guy has 'I'm nuts and have a ton of baggage' but I am praying that these traits can be negated by his brilliance....we need a match winner and if he comes with a bit of attitude it adds to it....my worry is his on pitch mood swings but there is no doubt that he would make us stronger.

Now Remy is another who it feel we could afford to bring in...along with Bug Sexy we would have a quality rotation but is Wenger thinking Campbell could be our third choice? I can see him doing so but whoever comes in Remy or whoever stays Campbell it may be out wide they ply their trade.

Now if it were those three I would be happy but we need a CM of a defensive nature so true happiness would be on ice. I think we need to address that too

GK is another need but I can see loan sufficing

Bug Sexy :bow:

[Injury Time]

Bug Sexy :bow:
Got the Love Bug fisting?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Looks like we are letting Real S keep Vela....Campbell to definitely be a fixture next season?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/carlos-vela-transfer-arsenal-agree-3746079

[The Emirates Gallactico]

More Ballotelli shit in the mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2665794/Mario-Balotelli-isnt-irreplaceable-says-AC-Milan-chief-Arsenal-ramp-eccentric-Italy-striker.html


Worryingly there's not been much else, Ballotelli aside, anywhere else.


We really should be rescuing Stekelenburg from his Fulham quagmire. A good keeper who would be eager to prove himself all over again. Scz could learn some things from having him here too. Guarantee Stekenburg both domestic cup games. £5m, 50kpw. Job done

I agree about Stekelenburg but I don't believe it would even be that expensive. Honestly think about 2 million and 20-30kpw should be enough. Fulham need to get him of the books (even something like 30kpw is unfeasible in the championship ...... unless you're QPR) and there isn't anyone else really out there who could even come close to offering that for a backup GK. Even someone like a Begovic is probably only on about 20kpw at Stoke. And I'm sure he'd want to come here, if not just to get away from Fulham and be at a top club.

Despite the top end wage inflation (thanks a lot Man City!!) most of the regular salaries I don't think have really increased dramatically. It's only our stupidity and Wenger's silly socialist wage structure that sees dross like Bendtner earn 52 k a week and to a lesser extent Diaby with his 60 k, though there have been signs he's willing to abandon that policy.

50K should only really be offered to a promising youngster on the cusp of breaking in (Oxlade?) or a new signing who isn't a world famous name (e.g. BFG, Kos, Arteta when they first joined).

[selassie]

More Ballotelli shit in the mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2665794/Mario-Balotelli-isnt-irreplaceable-says-AC-Milan-chief-Arsenal-ramp-eccentric-Italy-striker.html


Worryingly there's not been much else, Ballotelli aside, anywhere else.





I get the impression Milan are desperately trying to drum up more interest in Balotelli, the last thing they want is only Arsenal as his potential suitors, we are notorious for lowballing and Balotelli's agent has already come out and expressed that Balotelli is interested in a move so as it stands we hold all the cards in this deal.

I agree that it is a worry we haven't been linked to anybody else...we have a number of other positions that need strengthening.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I get the impression Milan are desperately trying to drum up more interest in Balotelli, the last thing they want is only Arsenal as his potential suitors, we are notorious for lowballing and Balotelli's agent has already come out and expressed that Balotelli is interested in a move so as it stands we hold all the cards in this deal.

I agree that it is a worry we haven't been linked to anybody else...we have a number of other positions that need strengthening.

I wanted Balotelli when he was a Inter player…so I really hope we get him. Probably good that the rest of our targets stay out of the headlines until they are completed…Clubs have a habit of sniffing around our targets and taking advantage of our crapness at completing a transfer.

[Bergkampwonderland10]

More Ballotelli shit in the mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2665794/Mario-Balotelli-isnt-irreplaceable-says-AC-Milan-chief-Arsenal-ramp-eccentric-Italy-striker.html


Worryingly there's not been much else, Ballotelli aside, anywhere else.



I agree about Stekelenburg but I don't believe it would even be that expensive. Honestly think about 2 million and 20-30kpw should be enough. Fulham need to get him of the books (even something like 30kpw is unfeasible in the championship ...... unless you're QPR) and there isn't anyone else really out there who could even come close to offering that for a backup GK. Even someone like a Begovic is probably only on about 20kpw at Stoke. And I'm sure he'd want to come here, if not just to get away from Fulham and be at a top club.

Despite the top end wage inflation (thanks a lot Man City!!) most of the regular salaries I don't think have really increased dramatically. It's only our stupidity and Wenger's silly socialist wage structure that sees dross like Bendtner earn 52 k a week and to a lesser extent Diaby with his 60 k, though there have been signs he's willing to abandon that policy.

50K should only really be offered to a promising youngster on the cusp of breaking in (Oxlade?) or a new signing who isn't a world famous name (e.g. BFG, Kos, Arteta when they first joined).

Sketelenberg is not very good at all, did you watch him at Fulham? Really would worry if we had him as our number 2. Begovic would be the best goalkeeping signing we could make. Am sure he is Stokes top earner but we could easily improve on that, plus he and szcezny would only improve each other. No sentiment…about stopping Szcez progression, just two excellent goalkeepers on the books!!!

[Power n Glory]

More Ballotelli shit in the mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2665794/Mario-Balotelli-isnt-irreplaceable-says-AC-Milan-chief-Arsenal-ramp-eccentric-Italy-striker.html


Worryingly there's not been much else, Ballotelli aside, anywhere else.



I agree about Stekelenburg but I don't believe it would even be that expensive. Honestly think about 2 million and 20-30kpw should be enough. Fulham need to get him of the books (even something like 30kpw is unfeasible in the championship ...... unless you're QPR) and there isn't anyone else really out there who could even come close to offering that for a backup GK. Even someone like a Begovic is probably only on about 20kpw at Stoke. And I'm sure he'd want to come here, if not just to get away from Fulham and be at a top club.

Despite the top end wage inflation (thanks a lot Man City!!) most of the regular salaries I don't think have really increased dramatically. It's only our stupidity and Wenger's silly socialist wage structure that sees dross like Bendtner earn 52 k a week and to a lesser extent Diaby with his 60 k, though there have been signs he's willing to abandon that policy.

50K should only really be offered to a promising youngster on the cusp of breaking in (Oxlade?) or a new signing who isn't a world famous name (e.g. BFG, Kos, Arteta when they first joined).

The wage structure is a problem but we get into this mess because we offer players contracts based on potential instead of merit. Ox recently signed a new deal and reports say it was worth £60k and I think that’s too soon for a player on the cusp of breaking into the first team.. That’s the sort of money Sagna was on throughout his Arsenal career. Someone that is tried, tested and solid. A kid that’s a bench option and still developing shouldn’t be on that. Sterling and Barkley are around the same age as Ox, play more and contribute more to their teams but earn a lot less than Ox. Barkley is on £15k and Sterling £35k, according to reports. They’ll both soon get a new deal but that’s fair enough because they’re important first team players and it’s gone beyond potential now.

I think we’ve jumped the gun early with a few of our players. Ramsey is the only player out of that bunch that should be in consideration for a serious pay rise. That should be the level and consistency we require before dolling out a deal. If we weren’t always balancing a budget and happy to pay the market rate and what’s needed to retain the services of our established first team starters or pay the market rate for potential new signings, what we do with the young players wouldn’t concern me at all. Having players committed for the long haul is a good thing. But I don’t want to hear we can’t afford someone like Sanchez/Reus this summer because of the wage demands whilst we’re paying too much for potential.

[Injury Time]

So Theo dead, Diaby so dead he must be a zombie, Vermalen in unsaleable condition, Ox in intensive care again... Offset by a 4 yearold Greek signing...hmm Wilshire due for little bit set back whilst breaking Campbell's leg?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I wanted Balotelli when he was a Inter player…so I really hope we get him. Probably good that the rest of our targets stay out of the headlines until they are completed…Clubs have a habit of sniffing around our targets and taking advantage of our crapness at completing a transfer.

Yeah we really want to get better at transfer window business.....don't think I could stand another wait to the very last moment heart attack.....WC is one possible reason...no movement if any till that finishes or when Italy get dumped....then it will be wait till Mario gets back from his 'well deserved' holiday....then it will be.....

[Munchies]

Radamel Falcao has reportedly agreed to join Real Madrid. The transfer will be announced after the World Cup. (Source: BeIN Sports)

https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=falcao&src=typd

Falcao to Madrid.
Suarez to Barca ?

Benzema to Arsenal ? His partnership with Giroud is pretty good for France

[Niall_Quinn]

Suarez one way, Sanchez the other is the latest bullshit. That's a tough one, hope it happens, hope it doesn't happen.

[Munchies]

Remember that player who fake agents representing Man United went to sign last year?

Well it seems that United have now actually bought him..

Man United pay Ander Herrera’s €36m buy-out clause, done deal according to Cadena Ser

Having been linked with Manchester United for over a year now, and after being the centre of some crazy last minute shenanigans last summer, it appears Ander Herrera is finally heading to Old Trafford.

Spanish radio station Cadena Ser report late on Monday night that Manchester United have paid the buy-out clause to bring Herrera to England.

This clause expires on June 30, 2014 and it appears Herrera is Louis van Gaal’s first major signing to significantly improve the Manchester United midfield.

There is little other information given by Cadena Ser, but this radio station is known as a reliable source.

In addition, Radio Bilbao and El Larguero radio station are reporting the same transfer news and expect Herrera to be announced as a Manchester United player on Tuesday.

Luke Shaw for £34m too

[Ralpheroo72]

=The Emirates Gallactico;403225]More Ballotelli shit in the mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2665794/Mario-Balotelli-isnt-irreplaceable-says-AC-Milan-chief-Arsenal-ramp-eccentric-Italy-striker.html


Worryingly there's not been much else, Ballotelli aside, anywhere else.



I agree about Stekelenburg but I don't believe it would even be that expensive. Honestly think about 2 million and 20-30kpw should be enough. Fulham need to get him of the books (even something like 30kpw is unfeasible in the championship ...... unless you're QPR) and there isn't anyone else really out there who could even come close to offering that for a backup GK. Even someone like a Begovic is probably only on about 20kpw at Stoke. And I'm sure he'd want to come here, if not just to get away from Fulham and be at a top club.

Despite the top end wage inflation (thanks a lot Man City!!) most of the regular salaries I don't think have really increased dramatically. It's only our stupidity and Wenger's silly socialist wage structure that sees dross like Bendtner earn 52 k a week and to a lesser extent Diaby with his 60 k, though there have been signs he's willing to abandon that policy.

50K should only really be offered to a promising youngster on the cusp of breaking in (Oxlade?) or a new signing who isn't a world famous name (e.g. BFG, Kos, Arteta when they first joined).

Why is Ballotelli sending you his shit in the mail?:shrug:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Why is Ballotelli sending you his shit in the mail?:shrug:

Probably for the same reason he sets off fireworks in the shitter.

[I am invisible]

Radamel Falcao has reportedly agreed to join Real Madrid. The transfer will be announced after the World Cup. (Source: BeIN Sports)

https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=falcao&src=typd

Falcao to Madrid.
Suarez to Barca ?

Benzema to Arsenal ? His partnership with Giroud is pretty good for France
His partnership with Özil wasn't bad either...

[I am invisible]

Apparently Wenger skipped out on his TV commentary duties last night...

http://www.arsenalstation.com/2014/06/23/arsene-wenger-skips-french-tv-duties-to-hold-talks-with-agents/

...supposedly meeting with agents (Balotelli, Cuadrado and Aurier mentioned)...

[Injury Time]

Probably for the same reason he sets off fireworks in the shitter.

To hide the smell?

[Marc Overmars]

@SkySportsNews: Manchester Utd in advanced talks with Athletic Bilbao over the transfer of Ander Herrera #SSN

Wonder if those frauds turn up again like last year. :lol:

[Munchies]

Seems like it's actually happening then :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCj3CAJqEF0

He plays exactly like Fabregas, younger too. Let's see if he can adapt to the league though.

[Özim]

This is BS, we're in a World Cup waiting period.

[Munchies]

Well we just got £8m from Sociedad for Vela :lol:

On the skysports site

[Niall_Quinn]

Money :trophy:

Now take it and buy Remy. Why hang about?

[Marc Overmars]

Rio off to QPR. :lol:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Money :trophy:

Now take it and buy Remy. Why hang about?

This

[Özim]

Money :trophy:

Now take it and buy Remy. Why hang about?

investment purposes, the longer it stays in the bank the more money it makes and the more likely we won't be able to spend it at all.

[Marc Overmars]

Yaya claims City didn't give him time off to see his dying brother.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/world-cup-toure-city-stopped-seeing-dying-brother-085904138--sow.html

[GP]

Wow he's really going all out to force a move.

Shameless.

[Munchies]

Personally think that's bullshit!

It was a media tour, he could've very easily just told the club and they'd let him off given the reasons.

He wants out plain and simple.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yaya claims City didn't give him time off to see his dying brother.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/world-cup-toure-city-stopped-seeing-dying-brother-085904138--sow.html

Worst ever wanker player trying to break a contract? This guys so bad he runs the risk of making people feel sorry for the gypos! And that was previously thought to be impossible.

[Munchies]

BBC say we're getting £12m for Vela .

On top of the £3.5m from earlier, £15.5m for Vela.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27996066

[Dein-machine]

Yaya claims City didn't give him time off to see his dying brother.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/world-cup-toure-city-stopped-seeing-dying-brother-085904138--sow.html

He hasn't missed much, I've had to pay to see Kolo play for years.

[Syn]

Wouldn't trust Yaya Toure's words. The good thing is he's engineering a move out of Man City.

[Kano]

just fuck off and die toure.

oh.

[Gooner23]

Looks like this summer will be the Yaya vs Suarez show, who can force their move quicker.

In other words who can be the biggest c*nt.

I'd have to say it's fairly even at the moment.

[Munchies]

To be fair to Suarez, he isn't doing much in the media in terms of forcing a move

[Niall_Quinn]

To be fair to Suarez, he isn't doing much in the media in terms of forcing a move

Not sure that's true. He's been talking about payback for the way he has been treated in England, gloating he beat England when he wasn't even fit. Seems odd for a player who plays in England and intends to continue playing here.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

To be fair to Suarez, he isn't doing much in the media in terms of forcing a move

Bite II

[Xhaka Can’t]

Cheeky bid of £40,000,001.99?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

To be fair to Suarez, he isn't doing much in the media in terms of forcing a move

Yeah thanks for that.

[I am invisible]

Not sure that's true. He's been talking about payback for the way he has been treated in England, gloating he beat England when he wasn't even fit. Seems odd for a player who plays in England and intends to continue playing here.
He sounded proper bitter in that interview (that's 'bitter' - 2 't's)! Looks like Liverpool fans are in for a long summer again...

[Zerlathon]

To be fair to Suarez, he isn't doing much in the media in terms of forcing a move

He seems to be chewing at the bit... oh I mean Italian shoulder.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bite II

Can't hurt, can it? (Unless you are the Italian)

Maybe he'll have to reluctantly leave England just to get away from all the fuss, and go to (oh I don't know, let's say) Madrid.

[fakeyank]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10923375/Arsenal-look-to-sign-Alexis-Sanchez-from-Barcelona.html

Is the Telegraph news worth anything? Or is this another metro?

[Marc Overmars]

It's considered a more reputable rag but in all honesty I'm not sure there's much of a difference with broadsheet and tabloid rumours these days.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

The Telegraph is usually pretty good.

As is the Guardian and Times. I'd say there was still a difference between tabloid and "broadsheet".

BBC and Sky can be hit and miss.

The rest are pretty much "they make so much shit up they're bound to get something right eventually".

As with everything else, it's just looking at the names. Some journalists you can bet your house on, others you should flat out ignore.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10923375/Arsenal-look-to-sign-Alexis-Sanchez-from-Barcelona.html

Is the Telegraph news worth anything? Or is this another metro?

It's a broadsheet, the much bigger pages automatically give it twice the credibility. It's Nazi leaning coverage is comparatively highbrow and well respected. It has a history of being run by well spoken criminals, the sort you wouldn't mind your daughter bringing home, at least until the rumours of gay and animal fetishes started to surface.

[I am invisible]

That Colombian lad Rodriguez looks like he might be a bit good - should we be looking at him?

[Marc Overmars]

Get Martinez and James.

South Americans are the way forward tbh.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

just fuck off and die toure.

oh.

Terrible joke.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Martinez has looked very good but Colombia generally have.....

I've missed Rodriguez playing, mostly though...

[I am invisible]

...I've missed Rodriguez playing, mostly though...
Also known as 'James'...

[selassie]

I think Rodriguez moved to Monaco last summer for some crazy fee, like 40million or something like that. He does look a good player though.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Is it the small fair skinned dude who scored today?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Is it the small fair skinned dude who scored today?

MOe?

[I am invisible]

Is it the small fair skinned dude who scored today?
Yeah, the guy who got the 4th...

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Also known as 'James'...

Sit Down

[Dein-machine]

Herrera having medical ahead of United move - what's all this getting deals done early lark?. Think all other managers should wait till Wumger returns from his hectic workload for French TV in Brazil, have a lazy few weeks with Mrs Wumger & around about 2 weeks after the season has kicked off then start trying to do deals - otherwise its not fair.

[Niall_Quinn]

Any word from le Grove? Or is he still in the embarrassment window?

[Penguin]

That Colombian lad Rodriguez looks like he might be a bit good - should we be looking at him?
I've been more impressed with Cuadrado personally

[KSE Comedy Club]

Martinez is where it's at. If we're gonna spunk £30m on a striker it should be him over balotelli.

[I am invisible]

I've been more impressed with Cuadrado personally
We have been linked with Cuadrado a couple of times now - rumoured to have met with his agent the other day (although they've said the same thing about dozens of players now)?

Interesting that he can also play RB - not because I'd want him to play there if we went for him, but because it could make for an interesting partnership with a more attacking RB (eg Aurier)? Or it could just be a mess?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

CBA finding the dedicated Giroud thread but he had an interview with L'Equipe the other day


Arsene Wenger has told Olivier Giroud that he has become too predictable and needs to be craftier in the penalty area.
The striker, who on Friday scored his first World Cup for France in their 5-2 thrashing of Switzerland, is haunted by opportunities he missed last season as Arsenal threw away a great chance to win the Premier League and ended up finishing fourth.
But he insists he will get better. "Arsene Wenger often gives me corrections after matches. We are talking about opportunities," Giroud told l'Equipe. "To him, I am not crafty enough. Once he told me I am too frank in my runs, too predictable. I have to be more confusing.
"I feel I can go on improving. I can improve some parts of my game and have better statistics.
"I am working hard in front of goal post to try to sort out some details. I think about missed opportunities, notably against Chelsea.
"I have to be more decisive in the box, but also in my way to keep the ball and defend. At least once a week I try to work in front of goal. I have been doing it systematically since I have been at Arsenal. I need it."
Giroud's header on Friday was his ninth goal for France in 32 appearances, but he admitted that scoring at a World Cup was a moment he will never forget.
"It's something that will stay with me throughout my career," he said. "When you score, you think about your loved ones, about your family. It's a very special moment - it's unique.
"It represents the aggregate of a whole career and it's great to feel that fulfillment and to have played an active role in the result. I wasn't aware that it was France's 100th World Cup goal - I only found out after the match."
Asked if the goal was 'revenge' for being left out of the starting XI despite impressive performances during France's World Cup warm-up matches, Giroud added: "I don't really like the word 'revenge'. I would prefer to say it was a personal victory.
"The course of my career has been atypical, just like Franck Ribery, Mathieu Valbuena and Laurent Koscielny. When I was 17, success in my career was far from a foregone conclusion. I've come a very long way to get here."

Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/318153.html#SlS6xrcITtsSPy34.99


His attitude is fantastic and it's great to see he acknowledges his shortcomings (miss vs Chelsea) and is prepared to work on them. Such a refreshing attitude and contrasted well to a selfish egotistical cunt like Ballotelli.

Got a feeling that he'll still be first choice next season as it does seem Wenger has a lot of faith in him.

[Gooner23]

Surely Wenger can tap up some of these French players while he's out there. Quite a few of them would improve our squad.

[Syn]

Surely Wenger can tap up some of these French players while he's out there. Quite a few of them would improve our squad.

That Sagna looks quite good.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If Jimbo Rod has an eye for goal he is welcome. I do like Martinez, though I have heard his passing/laying off is a little wayward at times. He loves a dance celebration though so he's all right by me.... :d

[KSE Comedy Club]

That Sagna looks quite good.
Yeh but there are strong rumours that he likes the money.....

[Marc Overmars]

United have their 29m bid for Herrera rejected. :lol:

City sign Fernando from Porto.

[Munchies]

Sagna has done an interview about why he left..
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2014/06/bacary-sagna-explains-reasons-for-quitting-arsenal-to-join-man-city/

“I’m going to clear everything up because I keep reading that I did for money and I’m greedy,” Sagna said.

“What I want to say is I stayed with Arsenal with the same contract since 2008 and I never asked for more money.

“For people who think it’s for money, it’s not. I just wanted to change. I needed a boost in my career and I think it was about time.”

Sagna, who helped Arsenal win the FA Cup this season, held talks over a new deal with the north London club and conceded that he found it difficult to cope with the constant speculation surrounding his future.

“It was not an easy time because we were still involved in the FA Cup and it was hard to stay focused,” he added.

“I stayed focused on my team because I have a lot of respect for Arsenal. I believe Arsenal is a great team. I believe we have great quality and we won a trophy finally. It’s not even about that because Arsenal have a quality.

“It’s just that, personally, I wanted a boost. I needed to start from the bottom again.”

Obviously, because that's what a contract means.

Yeah, getting £150k and sitting on the bench is the bottom again :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

What a ****.

[Niall_Quinn]

He can fuck off the greedy cunt. Just take the cash and shut your face, don't be trying to justify your greed and disloyalty and treating the fans like they are morons.

[GP]

He can fuck off and his wife is a slag.

[Power n Glory]

Sagna has done an interview about why he left..
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2014/06/bacary-sagna-explains-reasons-for-quitting-arsenal-to-join-man-city/


Obviously, because that's what a contract means.

Yeah, getting £150k and sitting on the bench is the bottom again :haha:

The fact that City want him says a lot. It has to be flattering when a big club is still interested in signing you when you're past 30. He could have ended up at QPR!

If he was that greedy, he'd have engineered a move away from the club and tried to get the club to offer him a better deal like so many other players in the past have done.

[GP]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20140626/club-announces-11-player-departures

[Marc Overmars]

Dennis Bendtner. :rose:

[Gooner23]

Ju Young Park :rose:

Gone but never forgotten.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ju Young Park :rose:

Gone but never forgotten.

Who?

[Niall_Quinn]

Dennis Bendtner. :rose:

:patrice: :trophy:

[Penguin]

Ju Young Park :rose:

Gone but never forgotten.

Apart from his name? :lol:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

United have their 29m bid for Herrera rejected. :lol:

City sign Fernando from Porto.

I thought 29 million was his release clause? Unless Bilbao are pulling a Liverpool here I can't see how they could reject it.





And :doh: at Sagna. Not like our current players are whiter than white with Theo and his, "I just want to play as a striker" BS he was saying at this point last year to get a bumper deal, but I hate it when footballers try and act that money didn't factor into their decisions. Accept that you're a money grabbing cunt and don't try and justify it, otherwise it makes you into a bigger cock and a bigger target for abuse.

He needed a fresh start? Possibly believe if we went to a Ligue 1 club or somewhere where he would be playing weekly but to City?? ........ unless he wanted a fresh start on sitting on wooden benches then it's obvious to everyone why he went there.

[Marc Overmars]

At least Cashley didn't try to sugar coat anything when he left, he said what he thought unlike these ****s who pretend otherwise.

[KSE Comedy Club]

The last 2 paragraphs just prove that he is full of shit

[Syn]

The last 2 paragraphs just prove that he is full of shit

In the last 4/5 seasons, Sagna could left any time he wanted to. He was the best RB in the league and apart from a dodgy 6 months a couple of seasons ago was consistently an 8/10 performer. He has given us his best years and I'm not going to begrudge him a move to Man City. He's not in the cunt league alongside Cashley and Van Persie.

Fabregas again is someone who doesn't deserve abuse. As expected he failed in Spain and was humiliated and kicked out from his boyhood club. He wanted to come back to his second home at Arsenal but we didn't want him because we have a far superior player in his position. Only joined Chelsea because it was his only decent option.

[Penguin]

In the last 4/5 seasons, Sagna could left any time he wanted to. He was the best RB in the league and apart from a dodgy 6 months a couple of seasons ago was consistently an 8/10 performer. He has given us his best years and I'm not going to begrudge him a move to Man City. He's not in the cunt league alongside Cashley and Van Persie.

Fabregas again is someone who doesn't deserve abuse. As expected he failed in Spain and was humiliated and kicked out from his boyhood club. He wanted to come back to his second home at Arsenal but we didn't want him because we have a far superior player in his position. Only joined Chelsea because it was his only decent option.

:gp:

Sagna obviously deserves the stick he will undoubtedly get for moving directly to our league rivals, but I don't blame him for wanting to double his wages and getting a chance of winning more than just one FA cup in 8 years. Is he a selfish money grabbing cunt? Well yeah, but he's human and so are 99.99% of the rest of us. I would probably do the same thing as him if i was in his shoes.

[Marc Overmars]

Nah.

He can fuck off and his wife is a slag.

[GP]

Nah.

He can fuck off and his wife is a slag.

:gp:

[Niall_Quinn]

:gp:

Sagna obviously deserves the stick he will undoubtedly get for moving directly to our league rivals, but I don't blame him for wanting to double his wages and getting a chance of winning more than just one FA cup in 8 years. Is he a selfish money grabbing cunt? Well yeah, but he's human and so are 99.99% of the rest of us. I would probably do the same thing as him if i was in his shoes.

You're an Arsenal fan - would you REALLY do the same thing? Move from the club you support to a rival? I certainly wouldn't if granted the privilege of playing for a club like Arsenal. That's the difference, fans are vested in the club, most of the players these days couldn't give a shit about the club beyond what they can get from it. They aren't fans, they don't appreciate the privilege. I'd be amazed if any genuine fan would give up playing for his club, and if you;re getting £80k a week on top then that's the thickest, tastiest gravy imaginable. Fuck £150K at the gypos, who cares. £80K and play for your club - priceless, could never be matched by any offer from anyone.

If you are a fan of course.

But if you are a greedy, money grabbing cunt, non-fan, then sure. It's perfectly understandable when these cunts do cuntish things. They are what they are.

[Power n Glory]

In the last 4/5 seasons, Sagna could left any time he wanted to. He was the best RB in the league and apart from a dodgy 6 months a couple of seasons ago was consistently an 8/10 performer. He has given us his best years and I'm not going to begrudge him a move to Man City. He's not in the cunt league alongside Cashley and Van Persie.

Fabregas again is someone who doesn't deserve abuse. As expected he failed in Spain and was humiliated and kicked out from his boyhood club. He wanted to come back to his second home at Arsenal but we didn't want him because we have a far superior player in his position. Only joined Chelsea because it was his only decent option.

:gp:

It's not even close to RVP or Cashley. He gave his best years, the club knew he gave his best years and were hesitant in offering him a better deal because his best years may have been behind him. I don't think we expected a bounce back to form or for a club like City to be interested in a player at that age. I suspect we offered him a take it or leave it deal expecting mid table fodder and relegation candidates to only be interested.

What's done is done. I just hope we have a replacement lined up because this shouldn't have come as a shock to the club. Given his age and how slow we were to sort a contract out, we must have our eye on other players.

[Niall_Quinn]

:gp:

It's not even close to RVP or Cashley. He gave his best years, the club knew he gave his best years and were hesitant in offering him a better deal because his best years may have been behind him. I don't think we expected a bounce back to form or for a club like City to be interested in a player at that age. I suspect we offered him a take it or leave it deal expecting mid table fodder and relegation candidates to only be interested.

What's done is done. I just hope we have a replacement lined up because this shouldn't have come as a shock to the club. Given his age and how slow we were to sort a contract out, we must have our eye on other players.

It's the fact he's come out and said he wants a fresh start - on a bench :haha:

Nobody is thick enough to believe that, I would think.

[Niall_Quinn]

We can do a lot better than him anyway. A good defender but tragic going forward. He busted up more momentum for us with his shit crossing and that should be a key factor in identifying a replacement.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEXrP8CQAADxhf.jpg

£30m deal completed

[Power n Glory]

You're an Arsenal fan - would you REALLY do the same thing? Move from the club you support to a rival? I certainly wouldn't if granted the privilege of playing for a club like Arsenal. That's the difference, fans are vested in the club, most of the players these days couldn't give a shit about the club beyond what they can get from it. They aren't fans, they don't appreciate the privilege. I'd be amazed if any genuine fan would give up playing for his club, and if you;re getting £80k a week on top then that's the thickest, tastiest gravy imaginable. Fuck £150K at the gypos, who cares. £80K and play for your club - priceless, could never be matched by any offer from anyone.

If you are a fan of course.

But if you are a greedy, money grabbing cunt, non-fan, then sure. It's perfectly understandable when these cunts do cuntish things. They are what they are.

That's looking from the outside in. What if behind closed doors you see that silverware isn't our priority and we're only interested in serving the shareholders? Boosting revenue and penny pinching. You'd be okay to sacrifice your playing career for that?

[Power n Glory]

It's the fact he's come out and said he wants a fresh start - on a bench :haha:

Nobody is thick enough to believe that, I would think.

Having to force your way back into a team and prove yourself again is a fresh challenge or am I missing something. :blink:

[Niall_Quinn]

That's looking from the outside in. What if behind closed doors you see that silverware isn't our priority and we're only interested in serving the shareholders? Boosting revenue and penny pinching. You'd be okay to sacrifice your playing career for that?

I'm looking at this as a fan. Something Sagna isn't and wasn't. Which is fine, few players are fans I suspect. Provided they don't come out with shit about how much they love the club, if they do then they are going to get hit and rightly so.

[Niall_Quinn]

Having to force your way back into a team and prove yourself again is a fresh challenge or am I missing something. :blink:

You never miss anything when it comes to apologising for mercenaries. You always cover all the bases.

[Power n Glory]

You never miss anything when it comes to apologising for mercenaries. You always cover all the bases.

I think you just miss a lot in general.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's not the fact he moved to Man City it's his weasely excuses he's now giving for it to try and pretend that money wasn't the main driver behind it, "A fresh start", "A boost" ............ :doh:


I mean really, who the hell does he think will actually fall for it?

[Niall_Quinn]

It's not the fact he moved to Man City it's his weasely excuses he's now giving for it to try and pretend that money was the main driver behind it, "A fresh start", "A boost" ............ :doh:


I mean really, who the hell does he think will actually fall for it?

PnG :lol:

[fakeyank]

Sagna has done an interview about why he left..
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2014/06/bacary-sagna-explains-reasons-for-quitting-arsenal-to-join-man-city/


Obviously, because that's what a contract means.

Yeah, getting £150k and sitting on the bench is the bottom again :haha:

Started from the bottom now we here..

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEXrP8CQAADxhf.jpg

£30m deal completed

How does he get a shirt on over that massive head? Does he have them specially made?

[Penguin]

You're an Arsenal fan - would you REALLY do the same thing? Move from the club you support to a rival? I certainly wouldn't if granted the privilege of playing for a club like Arsenal. That's the difference, fans are vested in the club, most of the players these days couldn't give a shit about the club beyond what they can get from it. They aren't fans, they don't appreciate the privilege. I'd be amazed if any genuine fan would give up playing for his club, and if you;re getting £80k a week on top then that's the thickest, tastiest gravy imaginable. Fuck £150K at the gypos, who cares. £80K and play for your club - priceless, could never be matched by any offer from anyone.

If you are a fan of course.

But if you are a greedy, money grabbing cunt, non-fan, then sure. It's perfectly understandable when these cunts do cuntish things. They are what they are.

I'm talking about it in Sagna's perspective, not mine. Sagna isn't an Arsenal fan so it's nothing to do with leaving the club you support. He joined a foreign club to further his career, spent 8 of his prime years with us and then left earn more money and win more trophies. That's like me joining Roma and eventually moving to Juventus. The Roma fans wont like it but... meh. This is a sport not a marriage :coffee:

[Power n Glory]

PnG :lol:

I guess it has nothing to do with the possibility of him winning a league title before he retires, no?

Of course money is a factor but if it really meant that much to him, why not engineer a move away from the club when in his prime like Ade did? Why stay on £60k for that long?

Sagna was on the same contract since 2008. He's a solid first team performer and there are kids in our squad that haven't even proven they are first team worthy, close to earning around the same amount he earns. Some surpass it and were offered extensions with years left to burn on their previous deals. We're so anxious to secure the services of players that have yet to fulfill their potential but are really slow when reacting to the older players. I've always had a problem with it. We're doomed to making the same mistakes if we don't sort this out. Focus should go on the staff and management.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm talking about it in Sagna's perspective, not mine. Sagna isn't an Arsenal fan so it's nothing to do with leaving the club you support. He joined a foreign club to further his career, spent 8 of his prime years with us and then left earn more money and win more trophies. That's like me joining Roma and eventually moving to Juventus. The Roma fans wont like it but... meh. This is a sport not a marriage :coffee:

We're making the same point then, he's a mercenary not a fan. I was responding to the idea, "I would probably do the same thing as him if i was in his shoes." Just saying that if you (as a fan) were in his shoes then I'd be surprised if you did the same as him. But agreed, he's not a fan, he's a mercenary for hire - like most of them tbf. Better if he takes his money and stays quiet. Trying to con the fans just adds insult.

[Power n Glory]

I'm talking about it in Sagna's perspective, not mine. Sagna isn't an Arsenal fan so it's nothing to do with leaving the club you support. He joined a foreign club to further his career, spent 8 of his prime years with us and then left earn more money and win more trophies. That's like me joining Roma and eventually moving to Juventus. The Roma fans wont like it but... meh. This is a sport not a marriage :coffee:

If it were a marriage, it's like some next guy chastising you for wanting to leave the bitch. And the chumps not even married himself. ;)

Looking in from the outside. From what we see, it's not as it's been years of complete bliss at the Emirates. It's not as if we don't get sick of the rubbish coming from the board and co, and we're fans! We'll always hit this bump in the road unless things change internally.

[Niall_Quinn]

I guess it has nothing to do with the possibility of him winning a league title before he retires, no?

Of course money is a factor but if it really meant that much to him, why not engineer a move away from the club when in his prime like Ade did? Why stay on £60k for that long?

Sagna was on the same contract since 2008. He's a solid first team performer and there are kids in our squad that haven't even proven they are first team worthy, close to earning around the same amount he earns. Some surpass it and were offered extensions with years left to burn on their previous deals. We're so anxious to secure the services of players that have yet to fulfill their potential but are really slow when reacting to the older players. I've always had a problem with it. We're doomed to making the same mistakes if we don't sort this out. Focus should go on the staff and management.

Really not interested in his excuses or lame justifications. It was already starting to die down until he opened his gob. He was only on the same contract because he spent 2 years rejecting contracts. The big money move was always in his mind evidently. Fine, he values money above all else. Not saying he's not normal by today's shitty standards, just wish he wouldn't try to sell a bag of shit to the fans.

[GP]

Really not interested in his excuses or lame justifications. It was already starting to die down until he opened his gob. He was only on the same contract because he spent 2 years rejecting contracts. The big money move was always in his mind evidently. Fine, he values money above all else. Not saying he's not normal by today's shitty standards, just wish he wouldn't try to sell a bag of shit to the fans.

NO! It's clearly Arsenal's fault he's been rejecting improved contracts for 2 years.

[Power n Glory]

Really not interested in his excuses or lame justifications. It was already starting to die down until he opened his gob. He was only on the same contract because he spent 2 years rejecting contracts. The big money move was always in his mind evidently. Fine, he values money above all else. Not saying he's not normal by today's shitty standards, just wish he wouldn't try to sell a bag of shit to the fans.

Failing to see the glitch in the Matrix as usual. ;)

You have to wonder why we keep paying inflated wages for unproven potential but have trouble wrapping up contracts but penny pinch with senior players.

We'll revisit this subject again if we don't change things. A sky high wage bill because of under performing young players but we'll lose the true players that add value to this squad.

[Niall_Quinn]

NO! It's clearly Arsenal's fault he's been rejecting improved contracts for 2 years.

Well in a way it is - I hope you realise all we were prepared to offer was ninety thousand pounds. Per week. A measly nine million quid over two years. Plus bonuses. Our rivals came along and said, money is no object to us as we don't have to run our club as a business. So we'll pay you a shit load more to jump ship and play second fiddle. And Sagna said, that sounds like a challenge and I need a change. As you can see - the money had nothing to do with it. And now that Sagna has confirmed it, as Arsenal fans we can all say - good bloke - and move on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Failing to see the glitch in the Matrix as usual. ;)

You have to wonder why we keep paying inflated wages for unproven potential but have trouble wrapping up contracts but penny pinch with senior players.

We'll revisit this subject again if we don't change things. A sky high wage bill because of under performing young players but we'll lose the true players that add value to this squad.

Who are the unproven players on inflated wages? Isn't it the gypos and the chavs who have forced other clubs to pay silly money to hang on to their players? Senior player or not, a 30 year old full back on £150K per week? Yeah, the fact we won't pay such a nonsense amount has cost us. Would we want that to be different? Bearing in mind we have to do crazy stuff the dopers don't have to worry about, like avoid bankruptcy and such.

[Power n Glory]

Well in a way it is - I hope you realise all we were prepared to offer was ninety thousand pounds. Per week. A measly nine million quid over two years. Plus bonuses. Our rivals came along and said, money is no object to us as we don't have to run our club as a business. So we'll pay you a shit load more to jump ship and play second fiddle. And Sagna said, that sounds like a challenge and I need a change. As you can see - the money had nothing to do with it. And now that Sagna has confirmed it, as Arsenal fans we can all say - good bloke - and move on.

I believe we offered him a better deal very late in the game like we did with Theo. Like we always do in the transfer window. It's just how we do things and we sometimes end up losing out. But that's another issue.

If he turned down deal after deal, why was he still playing in the team and why didn't we get his replacement in last summer or winter the latest? That's a fault on the clubs part again and none of this would matter if we knew we had a solid rb already at the club that had taken over Sagna's position. Blame the players...but ffs how many times are we going to do this? It just boils down to not being proactive enough. Replace him straight away if he's stalling and you allow it to get to a situation where he's allowed to talk to other clubs.

[Power n Glory]

Diaby £50k, Wilshere £85k, Ox £50k, Bendy £50k (off the books today...finally), Ramsey £50k last year. I think he's just signed a new deal improving on that but he was bumped up to a £50k contract when he was having an awful time. Why?

[Niall_Quinn]

I believe we offered him a better deal very late in the game like we did with Theo. Like we always do in the transfer window. It's just how we do things and we sometimes end up losing out. But that's another issue.

If he turned down deal after deal, why was he still playing in the team and why didn't we get his replacement in last summer or winter the latest? That's a fault on the clubs part again and none of this would matter if we knew we had a solid rb already at the club that had taken over Sagna's position. Blame the players...but ffs how many times are we going to do this? It just boils down to not being proactive enough. Replace him straight away if he's stalling and you allow it to get to a situation where he's allowed to talk to other clubs.

In the end, the gypos arean't a real football club. We can never compete with their crazy deals. And they'll always be a flame to a moth for players looking for a big pay day. We offered the guy plenty of money, but not on the scale of a doper which has no limits. So we offer 150, they offer 160, we offer 170 and on it goes. For a 30 year old? Why did we play him? Because he was contracted to play and was our best RB. He stated he was playing out his contract. No mystery there. Provided we replace him then we've done what we can. Offered him a contract and a big pile of money. He wanted more so he left. What do you suggest we should have done, matched the gypo offer? Quickest route to bankruptcy. Can you imagine the queue at Wenger's door? All of them looking for double or nothing?

[Niall_Quinn]

Diaby £50k, Wilshere £85k, Ox £50k, Bendy £50k (off the books today...finally), Ramsey £50k last year. I think he's just signed a new deal improving on that but he was bumped up to a £50k contract when he was having an awful time. Why?

You are now pretending £50K is inflated in this market? And mentioning players like Wilshere, Ramsey and Ox? That's the biggest stretch imaginable. Bendtner, of course yes, he was supposed to be a big hot talent but turned out to be a useless tosser, more down to his character than his natural ability. We had to let the bastard ride out the contract, he wouldn't leave even though we kept on trying to get rid of him. Diaby, well hard to argue against that. That's a mystery all right. But Wilshere, Ramsey and Ox? Come off it. They'd all be on £150K or more at gypoville. How do we know? Because a 30 year old full back just go that much.

[Power n Glory]

You are now pretending £50K is inflated in this market? And mentioning players like Wilshere, Ramsey and Ox? That's the biggest stretch imaginable. Bendtner, of course yes, he was supposed to be a big hot talent but turned out to be a useless tosser, more down to his character than his natural ability. We had to let the bastard ride out the contract, he wouldn't leave even though we kept on trying to get rid of him. Diaby, well hard to argue against that. That's a mystery all right. But Wilshere, Ramsey and Ox? Come off it. They'd all be on £150K or more at gypoville. How do we know? Because a 30 year old full back just go that much.

It's not when Ross Barkley is earning £15k and Sterling is on £30k! That's the comparison. Chelsea and City aren't looking for our young players because there performances don't warrant that much. They wouldn't pay £150k for those players either. Not sure how accurate this is but it's worth doing research on what they're actually paying players around the same age as them.

http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/chelsea-playerss-salaries-2014/
http://www.tsmplug.com/football/man-city-players-salaries-2014/

[Power n Glory]

In the end, the gypos arean't a real football club. We can never compete with their crazy deals. And they'll always be a flame to a moth for players looking for a big pay day. We offered the guy plenty of money, but not on the scale of a doper which has no limits. So we offer 150, they offer 160, we offer 170 and on it goes. For a 30 year old? Why did we play him? Because he was contracted to play and was our best RB. He stated he was playing out his contract. No mystery there. Provided we replace him then we've done what we can. Offered him a contract and a big pile of money. He wanted more so he left. What do you suggest we should have done, matched the gypo offer? Quickest route to bankruptcy. Can you imagine the queue at Wenger's door? All of them looking for double or nothing?

As said, why didn't we buy his replacement before he left since we knew he was going? I'm not suggesting we match the price after we've let negotiations drag on. You know we're too slow with our business. You've been critical of the lack of activity this window when other clubs are already signing players. You know things need to change internally and there are things we could have done to make this irrelevant.

[Gooner23]

As usual for an Arsenal transfer window we're discussing other teams signings and players that have left us.

Not even a hint of an Arsenal signing, pull your finger out Wenger!

[Niall_Quinn]

It's not when Ross Barkley is earning £15k and Sterling is on £30k! That's the comparison. Chelsea and City aren't looking for our young players because there performances don't warrant that much. They wouldn't pay £150k for those players either. Not sure how accurate this is but it's worth doing research on what they're actually paying players around the same age as them.

http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/chelsea-playerss-salaries-2014/
http://www.tsmplug.com/football/man-city-players-salaries-2014/

Barkley and Sterling will be on twice that once they have put in the same amount of time. They'll be coming home to big pay bumps no doubt, if it hasn't already been dealt with. It's fashionable to write off Wilshere following his injury problems, but he's still considered among the premium talent in England, Ramsey - turns out we are robbing him, Wenger was right all along when the rest of us were completely wrong, Ox, could be the best of them all, he didn't even play and his absence is being used as an excuse by the manager for England's flop. These are big players, not kids trying to make the grade. Barkley and Sterling have joined the ranks too, forget £15K, won't be that come August.

[Niall_Quinn]

As said, why didn't we buy his replacement before he left since we knew he was going? I'm not suggesting we match the price after we've let negotiations drag on. You know we're too slow with our business. You've been critical of the lack of activity this window when other clubs are already signing players. You know things need to change internally and there are things we could have done to make this irrelevant.

We didn't LET negotiations drag on, Sagna refused to sign over almost a two year period. How is that us LETTING negotiations drag? We spent big money in the transfer window last year. We knew extra funding was coming this year. We knew Sagna was seeing out his contract. So no mystery about not signing his replacement. It will only be a mystery if we don't sign anyone this window.

[Power n Glory]

Barkley and Sterling will be on twice that once they have put in the same amount of time. They'll be coming home to big pay bumps no doubt, if it hasn't already been dealt with. It's fashionable to write off Wilshere following his injury problems, but he's still considered among the premium talent in England, Ramsey - turns out we are robbing him, Wenger was right all along when the rest of us were completely wrong, Ox, could be the best of them all, he didn't even play and his absence is being used as an excuse by the manager for England's flop. These are big players, not kids trying to make the grade. Barkley and Sterling have joined the ranks too, forget £15K, won't be that come August.

Yes, they'll get a bumper deal after establishing themselves as first team regulars - not before and not based on potential. Ramsey has put in the sort of performance that warrants an improved contract but the rest haven't. But I still don't understand why we'd bump Ramsey up to a £50k contract after a very poor season. What is that based on? Regardless of how things have turned out with him, we pay too much too early and you can see from what Chelsea and City pay, they don't just pay a huge fee to anybody.

[Power n Glory]

We didn't LET negotiations drag on, Sagna refused to sign over almost a two year period. How is that us LETTING negotiations drag? We spent big money in the transfer window last year. We knew extra funding was coming this year. We knew Sagna was seeing out his contract. So no mystery about not signing his replacement. It will only be a mystery if we don't sign anyone this window.

This is getting ignorant. If he refuses to sign a deal, just move on and find a replacement. The fact that it went on for 2 years says a lot. How long does it take for the message to become clear? Why not sign a new player before he leaves so we have cover and someone that will be ready when Sagna leaves? If Wenger says it takes a least 6 months/1 year to adapt the the Premier League, why not plan ahead when he knows we have an unsure player on our hands or we're unwilling to budge on the terms? Does that not make sense?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Luke Shaw having a medical at United, according to the BBC :sick:


Pretty good day for United, after signing Herrera too.

[Syn]

Luke Shaw having a medical at United, according to the BBC :sick:

That's their LB situation sorted for the next 15 years. Fantastic player.

[Power n Glory]

Goes to show the drain Moyes had on that club. No player would go near them when he was there. Even with Champions League football. They're all fine to hop on board now that he's gone even with CL football going with him. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

34m apparently. Bloody hell.

I make that well over 100m spent in the space of 12 months. Fellaini, Mata, Herrera and Shaw at an average of 30m each.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Jesus christ, 34 million on a leftback. Hope he turns out to be shit.

Anyway, Man Utd aren't hanging around here. It's clear they want to get back into the top four at the very minimum next season.


Please don't screw this up Wenger. :(

[Marc Overmars]

We should get Schneiderlin.

Southampton. :rose:

[Syn]

We should get Schneiderlin.

Southampton. :rose:

Absolutely. No brainer. Just give Southampton £25m and they'll probably take it. Perfect CM partner for Ramsey .

[Japan Shaking All Over]

We should get Schneiderlin.

Southampton. :rose:

:gp:

[fakeyank]

Have we signed Kallstrom permanently yet?

[Özim]

Please don't screw this up Wenger. :(

Don't hold your breath.

[Injury Time]

Jesus christ, 34 million on a leftback. Hope he turns out to be shit.

Anyway, Man Utd aren't hanging around here. It's clear they want to get back into the top four at the very minimum next season.


Please don't screw this up Wenger. :(
Efa, united are no Arsenal :sulk:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Started from the bottom now we here..

:lol: :lol:

Pretty bored of the Sagna debate now..... anyone who leaves us is cunt pretty much. My concern now is who the heck we are going to replace him with. If it was Aurier then shouldn't that have been done age's ago? Anyway Wenger's 2-3 players forecast needs to be adjusted accordingly.

Is Schneiderlin really worth 25 million? Is he any better than Gustavo / Bender? Obviously Bender could well cost more but probably not a whole lot more.

As an aside...if it wasn't for the fact he is wasting his career on Chelsea's books I'd want us to sign the young Nigerian CB Omeruo. He's a complete defender, very composed, hardly ever panics and strikes me as the sort of player that really takes to instruction and coaching well. Could get even better than he is......but it's a non starter unfortunately.

[Injury Time]

At least Sagna can get his victory us over nice and early at Wembley :scarf: <_<

[Niall_Quinn]

Have we signed Kallstrom permanently yet?

We are in the pre-waiting period.

[selassie]

Don't hold your breath.

Yep....we sure have got a lot of business to get through. I hope our targets have been lined up and it's just a case of getting them to sign once the World Cup is over.

[Injury Time]

Yep....we sure have got a lot of business to get through. I hope our targets have been lined up and it's just a case of getting them to sign once the World Cup is over.

:haha: <_<

[Marc Overmars]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/26/article-0-1F2B32C600000578-785_634x363.jpg

[Globalgunner]

Wenger working his nuts off on Arsenal business as usual I see.

4th place trophy. Here we come....... again.

[Power n Glory]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/26/article-0-1F2B32C600000578-785_634x363.jpg

Must be scouting for a new striker.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brave man with Suarez around.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Yep....we sure have got a lot of business to get through. I hope our targets have been lined up and it's just a case of getting them to sign once the World Cup is over.

If only I could believe this .......................... :(


Van Gaal has been occupied with coaching another side which is more time consuming than punditry yet his new club have pulled of two expensive deals already. And now that half of the teams have been eliminated it should increase the odds of signing someone. Really, unless the player in question is still playing at the world cup and is integral to their first team, there's no reason not to be capable of concluding deals right now.


I heard this on the Arsecast extra the other day but I thought it would also be good to get opinions here. At what date/point will you guys start to officially panic?


I can see the more sensible posters are trying to be more restrained and trying to give the benefit of the doubt to Wenger/Gazidis but eventually there has to be a point, no? I remember last year I got a bit of stick on here for allegedly panicing too early when we were dithering about as usual in the market. I think it was when Liverpool looked to have signed Mkhythrian (actually ended up at Dortmund) and we as usual were bumbling about ........ obviously I was later proved correct with how horrific it ended up.

For me if we haven't wrapped up at least one major deal by the end of July I'd start bricking it. We've got a challenging opening run of games and there needs to be time for whatever signing we make to be embedded into the squad and to acclimatise to both the country (assuming he's foreign) and the club. I think any signing after this point won't fully be ready for the first PL game of the season which is why it's imperative it's done by then.

[Letters]

Wenger working his nuts off on Arsenal business as usual I see.
Yeah! He went swimming. What a BASTARD! What the hell is he doing not working 24 hours a day?


Sheesh! :rolleyes:

[Power n Glory]

If only I could believe this .......................... :(


Van Gaal has been occupied with coaching another side which is more time consuming than punditry yet his new club have pulled of two expensive deals already. And now that half of the teams have been eliminated it should increase the odds of signing someone. Really, unless the player in question is still playing at the world cup and is integral to their first team, there's no reason not to be capable of concluding deals right now.


I heard this on the Arsecast extra the other day but I thought it would also be good to get opinions here. At what date/point will you guys start to officially panic?


I can see the more sensible posters are trying to be more restrained and trying to give the benefit of the doubt to Wenger/Gazidis but eventually there has to be a point, no? I remember last year I got a bit of stick on here for allegedly panicing too early when we were dithering about as usual in the market. I think it was when Liverpool looked to have signed Mkhythrian (actually ended up at Dortmund) and we as usual were bumbling about ........ obviously I was later proved correct with how horrific it ended up.

For me if we haven't wrapped up at least one major deal by the end of July I'd start bricking it. We've got a challenging opening run of games and there needs to be time for whatever signing we make to be embedded into the squad and to acclimatise to both the country (assuming he's foreign) and the club. I think any signing after this point won't fully be ready for the first PL game of the season which is why it's imperative it's done by then.

Don't worry, there is always the next window.

Or if we fail to sign anyone in January when nobody is willing to sell, we have next summer.

[Marc Overmars]

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[Syn]

Yeah! He went swimming. What a BASTARD! What the hell is he doing not working 24 hours a day?


Sheesh! :rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjJIE5-W514

Exactly! So what if he goes swimming, plays some beach football, does commentary for world cup games and little bit stuffs the transfer fund under his mattress.

[Munchies]

Man Utd sign Shaw & Herrera
Chelsea sign Fabregas & Costa
Man City sign Sagna & Fernando

Meanwhile, Arsene Wenger..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrFhaWmIgAA5dpj.jpg

[Syn]

Don't forget Liverpool who have made the very clever signing of Rickie Lambert and have almost sealed Lallana.

Wenger :lol:

The worst human being on the planet.

[Penguin]

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[Marc Overmars]

The diving header was better than RVC's tbh.

[GP]

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae331/mattlamb1982/WUMger.jpg

:lol:

I made that

[Power n Glory]

Man Utd sign Shaw & Herrera
Chelsea sign Fabregas & Costa
Man City sign Sagna & Fernando

Meanwhile, Arsene Wenger..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrFhaWmIgAA5dpj.jpg

Started from the bottom, indeed! That's scouting for talent.

[Munchies]

Lallana having a Liverpool medical , £25m BBC Sport

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's open season at Southampton. :wacko::wacko:

Mad price considering that's nearly what Cesc went for.


I wonder whether this will make Schindler's list more difficult to prise away as I would have thought they would want to at least keep one of their talented youngsters.

[Munchies]

We should've gone for Schniderlin way earlier ffs, now they have had like £60m come in, they'd be less reluctant to sell

[Munchies]

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[Özim]

We should've gone for Schniderlin way earlier ffs, now they have had like £60m come in, they'd be less reluctant to sell

Yeah trouble is if we had done we might have actually hd to pay up, if we wait until he's more expensive then he should be overpriced and out of our price range hopefully.

We play the long game at Arsenal, the very very long game.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Don't think that's really a fair comparison Munchies.

Gibbs was injured half the season and he plays for a side where he isn't as reliant to provide the attacking input considering we have the likes of Mesut Ozil and Ramsey pulling the strings.

Despite the maulings we got, I think the defence that Gibbs was part of conceded the fewest goals which is the only stat I need.


On a separate note, is it just me or does Luke Shaw look well old for an alleged 18 year old? If he was African I'm sure a few more questions would be raised.

[Özim]

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They should have added, days on the treatment table, Gibbs would come out on top there for sure.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjJIE5-W514

Exactly! So what if he goes swimming, plays some beach football, does commentary for world cup games and little bit stuffs the transfer fund under his mattress.

Why is Sanogo starting ahead of Wenger?

[Niall_Quinn]

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Only thing they haven't mentioned for those defenders is what their defensive record is. Gibbs is a much more naturally talented player than those other three, but he's not a great defender. That's his only defensive weakness. He should really be a wide man.

[Marc Overmars]

Southampton have done pretty well. Insane money for players who could easily be replaced for a fraction of it.

[Penguin]

£30m for Shaw...?! I knew he'd be expensive but come on! English premium :haha:

[Syn]

£30m for Shaw...?! I knew he'd be expensive but come on! English premium :haha:

£30m for 15 years at the top level. This will be like the £30m they paid for Rooney or Ferdinand. I think he'll prove to be a fantastic signing. Really looks a top level talent.

[Munchies]

Yeah, they signed Rio when he was 22, and got 12 years out of him.

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[A Gunner]

No wonder England did so crap, all the players were busy signing for new clubs!!!

[Dein-machine]

£30m for 15 years at the top level. This will be like the £30m they paid for Rooney or Ferdinand. I think he'll prove to be a fantastic signing. Really looks a top level talent.

Totally agree - £30 mill for a quality left back that can only get better. Some at Southampton suggesting he could adapt into an attacking role ala Bale. Not having to worry about that position for another decade. If only our manager could get his head round this. We would prefer to buy a foreigner for £10 mill & hope he proves himself. When he doesn't or when he leaves, like Sagna, we have to start again & spend another 15-20 mill = same cost as Shaw. By this time Shaw is an England regular, delivering quality every week & now worth £50 mill. We don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that spending £30 mill on young quality can actually be an investment.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

£30m for Shaw...?! I knew he'd be expensive but come on! English premium :haha:

As much as I think that the price is hideously extortionate for a fullback who has done very little and that Man Utd have been taken to the cleaners by Southampton, I'd much rather adopt their approach of overpaying to get their first choice target early on instead of our tactics which have been over the past few seasons to make lowball derisory offers which don't exceed Wenger's own moral valuation at the ultimate expense of not getting the player we need. The end result being a last minute deadline day trolley dash rummaging through the bargain bins to frantically get sub quality cover.

In short, I'd much rather have our first choice target and be laughed at by others for overpaying instead of not getting the player we need and then boast about value for money, as if that is a trophy.

[Power n Glory]

You guys really want Wenger to spend big money on young talent? Haven't we already done this with Reyes, Walcott and Ox? Let's not get all green eyed here. It's not £30m but those guys weren't cheap and I wouldn't want us to take anymore risks on young players considering our track record.

[Syn]

You guys really want Wenger to spend big money on young talent?

Depends on who the young talent is obviously. Luke Shaw? No, I'm happy with Gibbs at LB. My point was only that I don't think we'll be saying Man Utd got ripped off in 10 months time. As far as I can see, the moaning is not actually about not signing Luke Shaw, but the unwillingness to pay the asking price for our first targets. We will definitely wait to see which big moves happen and look at who's available towards the end of the window.

[Power n Glory]

Depends on who the young talent is obviously. Luke Shaw? No, I'm happy with Gibbs at LB. My point was only that I don't think we'll be saying Man Utd got ripped off in 10 months time. As far as I can see, the moaning is not actually about not signing Luke Shaw, but the unwillingness to pay the asking price for our first targets. We will definitely wait to see which big moves happen and look at who's available towards the end of the window.

I'd agree with spending what's required on first choice targets but I think they've taken a massive risk. It's the sort we can't afford. He may turn out to be a Rio type signing, but United have also blown serious money on Nani and Anderson. Smalling and Jones aren't looking so hot either.

I don't think you said much wrong in your post but I'm just a bit uneasy with the suggestion that United have a better strategy than ours. We can't afford to do what they do.

[Dein-machine]

You guys really want Wenger to spend big money on young talent? Haven't we already done this with Reyes, Walcott and Ox? Let's not get all green eyed here. It's not £30m but those guys weren't cheap and I wouldn't want us to take anymore risks on young players considering our track record.

Why do you class buying young English talent as a risk. Walcott & OX haven't neccessarily set the world on fire in an Arsenal shirt - some of the blame has to lie with poor management & ofcourse both seem to love hospitals but if they had had injury free seasons last year & both gone to Brazil what do you reckon their market value would be - YES, far more than what we paid so therefore for 2 players who could be doing better we would still return a profit on sale. Hardly a risk.
Now, lets say that OX has an injury free year & takes the Prem by storm which is a possibility - could have a silly Spanish offer or a Gypo offer for 60-70 mill within a few years.
Ozil for £47 mill was more of a risk than £30 mill for Shaw, another couple of poor seasons for him & we'll struggle to get half our money back.