Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[PGFC]

Time for Eboue to come home surely.

[milla]

We're "deep in conversations" to bring in new players, according to Ivan. Deep.

It means, Wumger is busy packing his suitcase for his Brazilian holidays. :coffee:

[I am invisible]

It means, Wumger is busy packing his suitcase for his Brazilian holidays. :coffee:

It means it's season ticket renewal time...

[Fist of Lehmann]

Plus, the guy on Le-grove (http://le-grove.co.uk/) reckons he's heard things that we should be excited about? Apparently we'll forget all about Cesc if whatever it is happens!

First of all, le grove is full of it.

Second of all, seeing Fabregas in anything but the red and white will be sickening, and that counts double for the blue of Chelscum.
They came 3rd with a pretty moderate foward line. With the assists of Cesc feeding the goals of Costa, Mouron would finally have the racehorse he craves.

He'll still specialise in failure as person, but he'll challenge on the pitch.

So personally, to forget about Cesc I'd need a bona fide worldie signed up front, none of your Remys or your Bonys. I'm talking Canvani, Falcao, Kalou - that sort of level. Not only that, but at least one other extremely good player, a Draxler, Alexis Sanchez or Trabelsi but preferably in CM.

We can only justify not signing a top bracket player like Fabregas, a player who will improve any side in the league, when he is ours to refuse, if we are going to do what is required to make that signing irrelevant.

Bring the thunder Gazidis you tart.

[I am invisible]

Yeah, show us the signings, you shit!

[Power n Glory]

Le Grove is alright. Got things right last summer.

[Munchies]

Just read that Le Grove article,


@LeGrove

As for the Cesc stuff, I still don’t get it. If he goes to Chelsea, big deal. He was a captain who sacked it all in for Barca, now it’s failed we’re all pining.

Arsenals priority this summer is pace. Simple as that. Well, pace and energy. If players aren’t armed with these attributes, I’d say it’d take a pretty immense talent to shift from that view point. Cesc isn’t going to give us the edge next year. A £30m DM will. A outrageously talented half forward might. A world class right back might. A winger with blistering pace and aggression might. A striker with pedigree could.

Not another number ten without an outlet. Chelsea need a Cesc because they have runners without much in the way of creativity. We have all the creativity without the Runners. This issue is concentrated because poor old Chambo may have jussi ruined himself for another 6 months. That makes it even less likely we’ll move for Cesc.

But trust me here, just like I asked you to last summer. If we land one of the names we’re in for, you will forget about Cesc. I promise. You’ll see the light and see that actually, in this instance, Arsene is addressing the issues.

Let's see if this transfer window is any different.. but let's not count on it.

[Özim]

Just read that Le Grove article,



Let's see if this transfer window is any different.. but let's not count on it.

I'm trying to count the chickens, they seem to have disappeared though. :unsure:

[Munchies]

@bbcsport_david ·

Arsenal have informed Barcelona they won't be exercising buy-back option on Fabregas. He was keen but #afc not seeking a creative midfielder

Fabregas now open to market & future likely to be sorted in next few weeks. #Afc priority striker & right-back + will get back-up goalkeeper
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david


Safe to say, if Wenger wanted him, he could've.

[I am invisible]

Le Grove is alright. Got things right last summer.

Yeah, it's one of the better Arsenal blogs - at least they make an effort to write a decent length post every day, and a lot of what they've been saying about this summer [about addressing fitness and making sure we're going after attributes rather than just names and price tags] makes a lot of sense.

That being said, transfer gossip is just about the easiest win going for bloggers and journos: get it right and you get all the kudos, and repeat visits from fans who will start going to you for info in future; get it wrong and you can simply blame the club/manager for fucking up the deal, and generate a social media frenzy (even if the club were never actually interested in the player in question in the first place). I generally trust that these guys are being honest, even if nothing comes of it, or they've been fed a load of shit themselves, but when you're making money out of your site, then you can never entirely rule it out? Pinch of salt, and all that...

[I am invisible]

Just read that Le Grove article,



Let's see if this transfer window is any different.. but let's not count on it.

They've also said(/hinted) that they might go on record ad name name,s if the alleged story or stories haven't broken by next week - we'll see though...

[I am invisible]

I'm trying to count the chickens, they seem to have disappeared though. :unsure:

I have to say, even letting my imagination run wild, I'm struggling to think who could possibly be that exciting? Too many years of having to rein in my expectations - my brain literally won't let me contemplate any signings beyond a certain level any more!

[Ralpheroo72]

We're "deep in conversations" to bring in new players, according to Ivan. Deep.

Balls deep

[Marc Overmars]

Well if we have passed on Cesc I certainly hope we've got some top players lined up, the fans won't let this one down if we don't.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah, it's one of the better Arsenal blogs - at least they make an effort to write a decent length post every day, and a lot of what they've been saying about this summer [about addressing fitness and making sure we're going after attributes rather than just names and price tags] makes a lot of sense.

That being said, transfer gossip is just about the easiest win going for bloggers and journos: get it right and you get all the kudos, and repeat visits from fans who will start going to you for info in future; get it wrong and you can simply blame the club/manager for fucking up the deal, and generate a social media frenzy (even if the club were never actually interested in the player in question in the first place). I generally trust that these guys are being honest, even if nothing comes of it, or they've been fed a load of shit themselves, but when you're making money out of your site, then you can never entirely rule it out? Pinch of salt, and all that...

Very true regarding transfers and traffic. But I only ever read Le Grove and Arseblog. They don’t usually indulge in the transfer stories and deal with the real meat of what’s going on at the club. Last summer on Le Grove was insightful because I believe they actually had a chance to meet Ivan Gazidis and he did his PR schmooze thing regarding our spending power. The stuff they’ve posted on fitness has also been really insightful. It’s one of the better blogs even though I don’t agree with everything they say.

[Munchies]

The thing with Cesc is that he's worldclass.

He can change the game with one pass.

With Diego Costa being a scrote and running non stop, he's going to thrive off that.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpXyXNLIAAEFUkY.jpg

Bunch of cunts :coffee:

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@gunnerblog

My mantra on this one: hard to foresee a scenario where we'd regret signing Cesc. Easy to imagine that we regret letting him go elsewhere.

Spot on really

[Niall_Quinn]

We can only justify not signing a top bracket player like Fabregas, a player who will improve any side in the league, when he is ours to refuse, if we are going to do what is required to make that signing irrelevant.

Agree, if we are signing Messi then it would be almost forgiveable to allow yet another one of the players we built to go to one of the shit camps like chavograd or gypoland. Fed up of it and if it happens again I never want to hear another player state they have regard for the club because it's impossible to give a shit about Arsenal and then go and play for a mega cunt like Maureen - impossible. I don't care if the millionaire kid is being pushed out of Cuntalona, that was always going to happen, grass has always appeared greener and none of these players ever seem to learn. We are and have always been the best place for the players we created to be, there's not a single exception out there, Fabregas, RvC, Song ( :haha: ), even Cashley, despite all the medals, ended up being one of the most hated figures in football and will first and foremost be remembered by fans as a greedy twat. So if he's pushed out then have some fucking respect and go to PSG or some other shit hole that's not directly in our back yard. I really don't understand fans who accept what these players do. Kissing the badge, professing undying love, fucking off with some pony excuse and then coming back to knock goals in against us. Fuck that, what's so great or acceptable about that? We "understand" it from the player's point of view? Irrelevant, we need to be understanding it from our own fucking point of view, the fans' point of view. The fuckers are either with us or against us and if they are against us then absolutely, yes, with no exception they are cunts. Of course they are, what the fuck are you on if you think otherwise?

We've spent years waiting for the big bucks signings and putting up with second best. We're the most patient fans in football and we aren't the glory hunting, greedy arsed types you'll find up the road in mancland, we've proved it. So now, fuck it if it costs and extra £35 - £50mill on top of our existing plans. Fuck it! Spend the fucking money, that's £5mill a year over the 10 years we've been waiting, to see one of our own back in the fold and make football what it should be, about the tribe. Fucking spend the money and then spend MORE money on the players we were after anyway. And they better be big fucking players too because we have a title to win next season. 10 years waiting, time to deliver. We kept our end of the deal now everyone else better fucking keep their end up.

[I am invisible]

Very true regarding transfers and traffic. But I only ever read Le Grove and Arseblog. They don’t usually indulge in the transfer stories and deal with the real meat of what’s going on at the club. Last summer on Le Grove was insightful because I believe they actually had a chance to meet Ivan Gazidis and he did his PR schmooze thing regarding our spending power. The stuff they’ve posted on fitness has also been really insightful. It’s one of the better blogs even though I don’t agree with everything they say.

Yeah, me too - I find reading those two together gives you a pretty rounded view of the Arsenal supporting universe, without going to far to either extreme. Both blogs are fairly balanced and neutral, in my opinion, but I find Arseblog leans ever so slightly to the more positive side of things and Le-Grove leans ever so slightly to the more critical side, but both seem perfectly willing to go the other way when they feel they have to. You don't necessarily have to agree with everything that's said, but it's still good to expose yourself to differing opinions...

[Gooner23]

Chelsea next season with Cesc, Matic and Costa in their team will be quite formidable. Thankfully they still have Maureen sucking the life out of any creativity they might have.

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d6gkgg9GCek

lol

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Well if we have passed on Cesc I certainly hope we've got some top players lined up, the fans won't let this one down if we don't.

Yep. Getting Griezzmann, Bender, Aurier and a top striker would just make everyone just forget about Cesc. Our squad would so impressive itself that we don't have to worry about Cesc, Costa or whoever the fuck the other oil baron clubs sign.

However even though I'm not a champion of getting Cesc, if it's the usual load of horseshit that we've seen the pass few seasons with a mixture of youth signings and opportunistic dross like Kalou then I hope the entire crowd gives Wenger the shit he deserves on the opening day of the season.

Ornstein is usually spot on things Arsenal related and I suspect he would have confirmed this with his sources before posting this so I do actually take his word on this. It does make sense after all - as has been discussed before we do have a plethora of creative midfielders at the moment.

Also surprised to see Le Grove positive for a change. He's usually one of the most negative bloggers out there - the Zimm of blogs. :lol:


On a separate note, if this is true and he subsequently moves to the Chavs or the Mancs I'll be uncomfortable if he gets booed when he plays us. I'm not sure how the matchgoing fans will treat it but he's certainly, in my eyes at least, not in the same ballpark as RVP, Nasri and even possibly Sagna who deserve the shit they get.

[Munchies]

We're being linked with a £26m move for Hulk :shrug:

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Get in Marco Reus and no one will care about Cesc, come on Wenger :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

Has that mega cunt Sagna actually left yet? Haven't seen any confirmation he's sold his arse to the gypos, is the deal still on?

[Munchies]

Has that mega cunt Sagna actually left yet? Haven't seen any confirmation he's sold his arse to the gypos, is the deal still on?

Bacary Sagna's agent has confirmed that the Frenchman will join Manchester City this summer

[Marc Overmars]

On a separate note, if this is true and he subsequently moves to the Chavs or the Mancs I'll be uncomfortable if he gets booed when he plays us. I'm not sure how the matchgoing fans will treat it but he's certainly, in my eyes at least, not in the same ballpark as RVP, Nasri and even possibly Sagna who deserve the shit they get.

I'm sure he'd get some stick but probably not on the same level as those you mentioned. I suppose his legacy would be tarnished and that would be a shame, given he's the only big name who managed to leave with some sort of blessing from the fans.

Ultimately though, if we don't want him then it's not his fault. He still has a career at the highest level ahead of him so we can't expect him to turn down big moves.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bacary Sagna's agent has confirmed that the Frenchman will join Manchester City this summer

Hope the cunt breaks both his legs. Same goes for Sagna.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I always thought Hulk was one of those overrated Porto players considering he ended up at Zenit rather than a proper club but his stats look quite good and he's favoured by Scolari.


Speaking of strikers, Giroud scored a belter during a training session yesterday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwkrvIukVDs

From a Sagna cross as well.

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO0gQEEAe5A

Make it happen Wenger plz :hug:

[Munchies]

http://i.imgur.com/AaKJRFL.jpg

https://twitter.com/DietmarHamann/status/474318963015303168


Random, but Hamann keeps replying :haha:

[Munchies]

Hope the cunt breaks both his legs. Same goes for Sagna.

Saw this when I searched for him on twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bo0VIWGIUAAGEdw.png

:coffee:

JackW4lker :bow:

[Power n Glory]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/may/01/benoit-assou-ekotto-tottenham-hotspur

Still relevant and very honest. People will call him a 'cunt' for his honesty, as expected so it's why players continue with the badge kissing and confess blind loyalty even though it's not always the case. It's WWE! :lol: Time to accept what's real and what's not. Idiots hurling abuse on Twitter is embarrassing but that's just the nature of Twitter.

[Penguin]

He's not wrong tbh. Football fans like to live in the fantasy that footballers 'love' their clubs but they have no reason to unless it's the club they grew up supporting.

[Niall_Quinn]

This is WHY it's perfectly legitimate to call them cunts - because they don't give a shit about what we give a shit about. We're in it for the success of the club and we pay for the privilege, we don't get paid. They are in it for the money. Plain to see who the cunts are in terms of sport and sporting rivalry. The guy above is honest, I don't knock him for that. And he's a cunt too because he's a cancer that's feeding on sport and the long standing tribalism that is part and parcel of the game for the fan.

I don't say they can't go chasing their money, all I'm saying is don't dare profess loyalty to or love of the club. Who want's to hear the lie? Money has destroyed almost everything about the game and it's a damn shame. There's a natural conclusion to this money driven agenda - monopoly. We're seeing it now. All the most unsavoury characters you could imagine at the top of the game, hence the blatant corruption, and behind them a stream on unsavoury players who whore themselves out for as much cash as they can get.

You can say fine, that's just the way it is. Or you could say let's start working as fans to get the undesirables out of this game and get back to the sport. Wouldn't that be a good thing? It's not like sport without corruption and extreme greed is impossible. We used to have the Olympic Games, for example. Is our modern society so broken it is now impossible to resurrect real sport? It's hugely defeatist and pretty dumb to just go along with things as they get worse, for one it's a damn sight more expensive as the greedy rats demand more and more. Makes no sense to keep shovelling the cash when you get less and less back.

[Power n Glory]

What sort of extremism are you on? :lol: Should we all go and burn down the Emirates? If it's such a problem, just switch off and put your money and efforts elsewhere.

[fakeyank]

What sort of extremism are you on? :lol: Should we all go and burn down the Emirates? If it's such a problem, just switch off and put your money and efforts elsewhere.

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

What sort of extremism are you on? :lol: Should we all go and burn down the Emirates? If it's such a problem, just switch off and put your money and efforts elsewhere.

??? Burn down the Emirates? Who said anything even approaching that suggestion? You are the master practitioner of extremism, in all your arguments. This is just the latest example. Always taking a point of view and pushing it to the extremes so you can knock it down.

Some may be trying to make football a consumer item, but it isn't a consumer item. It's more than that and anyone who is passionate about the game would tell you the same thing. Wenger, Ferguson, Clough, Paisley, Shankly, these people aren't and weren't in it just for the money. "Honest" players today aren't fit to lick the boots of these past and present icons. If someone is a greedy cunt who tarnishes everything around him provided he gets his barrow filled then okay, there have always been fucks like that, always will be. But you don't applaud them or sympathise with them like an obedient dog, do you? You call them what they are. Like this Qatar business. What do we do? Shake our heads and say that's the way it is? The very, very least you can do, now there's an open line of communication with the Internet, is say hey, what about that guy Platini? What about Blatter? Cunts! When the whole world is calling them a cunt, and rightly so, and everywhere they go they are scorned, yeah they still have their cash but there's a price to pay. Or you can just let them off the hook, let them laugh in your face, piss on you. We can't do anything directly as individuals to change this shit, but at least we can avoid grovelling or apologising. Surely this will only encourage them to be worse?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Agree, if we are signing Messi then it would be almost forgiveable to allow yet another one of the players we built to go to one of the shit camps like chavograd or gypoland. Fed up of it and if it happens again I never want to hear another player state they have regard for the club because it's impossible to give a shit about Arsenal and then go and play for a mega cunt like Maureen - impossible. I don't care if the millionaire kid is being pushed out of Cuntalona, that was always going to happen, grass has always appeared greener and none of these players ever seem to learn. We are and have always been the best place for the players we created to be, there's not a single exception out there, Fabregas, RvC, Song ( :haha: ), even Cashley, despite all the medals, ended up being one of the most hated figures in football and will first and foremost be remembered by fans as a greedy twat. So if he's pushed out then have some fucking respect and go to PSG or some other shit hole that's not directly in our back yard. I really don't understand fans who accept what these players do. Kissing the badge, professing undying love, fucking off with some pony excuse and then coming back to knock goals in against us. Fuck that, what's so great or acceptable about that? We "understand" it from the player's point of view? Irrelevant, we need to be understanding it from our own fucking point of view, the fans' point of view. The fuckers are either with us or against us and if they are against us then absolutely, yes, with no exception they are cunts. Of course they are, what the fuck are you on if you think otherwise?

We've spent years waiting for the big bucks signings and putting up with second best. We're the most patient fans in football and we aren't the glory hunting, greedy arsed types you'll find up the road in mancland, we've proved it. So now, fuck it if it costs and extra £35 - £50mill on top of our existing plans. Fuck it! Spend the fucking money, that's £5mill a year over the 10 years we've been waiting, to see one of our own back in the fold and make football what it should be, about the tribe. Fucking spend the money and then spend MORE money on the players we were after anyway. And they better be big fucking players too because we have a title to win next season. 10 years waiting, time to deliver. We kept our end of the deal now everyone else better fucking keep their end up.

It seems that Cesc wanted to come back to Arsenal. The Club seems to have passed on that.

Cesc can do whatever the fuck he likes and we have no business holding it against him.

[Niall_Quinn]

It seems that Cesc wanted to come back to Arsenal. The Club seems to have passed on that.

Cesc can do whatever the fuck he likes and we have no business holding it against him.

Well if he pulls on a chav shirt then that in itself gives us every right to declare open season. Same goes for any chav. Anyway, all we have to go on right now is media speculation. Which means there is absolutely nothing of substance to go on. But if the club are passing up quality and letting that quality go to our rivals, yet again, then they are setting themselves up for a deserved kicking if even bigger quality doesn't come walking through the door. The cash is piling up now, time for those who are directly concerned to declare what the cash is for. Long way to go but if nine figures doesn't leave the vault this time around (which would still be a modest spend given our track record of transfer profiteering) there won't be any excuses to cover their arses.

[Xhaka Can’t]

What sort of extremism are you on? :lol: Should we all go and burn down the Emirates? If it's such a problem, just switch off and put your money and efforts elsewhere.

Actually, that isn't as easy to do as it sounds.

Arsenal Football Club have taken fire safety very seriously and there really isn't much there that will burn and what will burn is unlikely to do much damage to the integrity of the infrastructure.

[Power n Glory]

??? Burn down the Emirates? Who said anything even approaching that suggestion? You are the master practitioner of extremism, in all your arguments. This is just the latest example. Always taking a point of view and pushing it to the extremes so you can knock it down.

Some may be trying to make football a consumer item, but it isn't a consumer item. It's more than that and anyone who is passionate about the game would tell you the same thing. Wenger, Ferguson, Clough, Paisley, Shankly, these people aren't and weren't in it just for the money. "Honest" players today aren't fit to lick the boots of these past and present icons. If someone is a greedy cunt who tarnishes everything around him provided he gets his barrow filled then okay, there have always been fucks like that, always will be. But you don't applaud them or sympathise with them like an obedient dog, do you? You call them what they are. Like this Qatar business. What do we do? Shake our heads and say that's the way it is? The very, very least you can do, now there's an open line of communication with the Internet, is say hey, what about that guy Platini? What about Blatter? Cunts! When the whole world is calling them a cunt, and rightly so, and everywhere they go they are scorned, yeah they still have their cash but there's a price to pay. Or you can just let them off the hook, let them laugh in your face, piss on you. We can't do anything directly as individuals to change this shit, but at least we can avoid grovelling or apologising. Surely this will only encourage them to be worse?

I'm taking the piss, obviously. It's the comment about taking 'action' and working as fans to get certain figures out. How exactly? Abuse on Twitter? Abuse at the games? Protests? Death threats like the sort Gerrard received when he wanted to leave Liverpool? :lol: Sorry, but no thanks.

I can still enjoy the game for what it is and see a good game of football. If I didn't, I'd switch off. If the money in the game offended me that much, I'd watch lower league football instead. What's encouraging the Blatter's and Platini's of this world is the money that keeps flowing. Obvious solution really. Or we can take to Twitter and type abuse. ;)

[Power n Glory]

Actually, that isn't as easy to do as it sounds.

Arsenal Football Club have taken fire safety very seriously and there really isn't much there that will burn and what will burn is unlikely to do much damage to the integrity of the infrastructure.

Thank goodness! Some people may get ideas. :lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Well if he pulls on a chav shirt then that in itself gives us every right to declare open season. Same goes for any chav. Anyway, all we have to go on right now is media speculation. Which means there is absolutely nothing of substance to go on. But if the club are passing up quality and letting that quality go to our rivals, yet again, then they are setting themselves up for a deserved kicking if even bigger quality doesn't come walking through the door. The cash is piling up now, time for those who are directly concerned to declare what the cash is for. Long way to go but if nine figures doesn't leave the vault this time around (which would still be a modest spend given our track record of transfer profiteering) there won't be any excuses to cover their arses.

I won't be wishing him any luck, especially if he's at Chelsea. However, it seems we don't want him and Barca are forcing him out, so whatever he does in that scenario is his own business.

If it is true that Barca are forcing him out and we don't want him, it is a pretty crappy situation for him. Hopefully he can do better than the Chavs or the Gypos.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm taking the piss, obviously. It's the comment about taking 'action' and working as fans to get certain figures out. How exactly? Abuse on Twitter? Abuse at the games? Protests? Death threats like the sort Gerrard received when he wanted to leave Liverpool? :lol: Sorry, but no thanks.

I can still enjoy the game for what it is and see a good game of football. If I didn't, I'd switch off. If the money in the game offended me that much, I'd watch lower league football instead. What's encouraging the Blatter's and Platini's of this world is the money that keeps flowing. Obvious solution really. Or we can take to Twitter and type abuse. ;)

I'm not going to bug out of a team I have supported for decades and are associated with some of my best memories just because some crappy cunts have descended and are grabbing whatever isn't nailed down. Apply the same logic to a burglary. What do you do if some cunt breaks in and starts robbing you? Understand him? Say fuck it and abandon the house? Hit the fucker with a 1 wood and piss on him I'd say. At the very least. Now the cunts who are robbing the game have the crooked law on their side, so we'd get in a whole heap of grief if we battered them to death. A fun idea but not worth the hassle. More modest methods might include not buying fucking hero worship shirts with somebody else's name plastered over the back. I never did that anyway, seemed a stupid idea to be called by a name and then have another name pinned to your back. So buy a shirt without the name on the back, that's a way of supporting the club - sort of, as it's also a way to support Kroenke, fuck it, maybe don't buy a shirt at all. These individual decisions add up, greedy fucks take notice when the combined action of many individuals hits their bottom line. Cultures can be changed when there's a will. Dog shit on the pavement, litter flying about the place, smoking on the underground, cultures can change. If people held their nose every time a footballer walked past instead of asking for a fucking autograph (another thing I never did), well maybe somebody somewhere will take notice and change their tune. Worth a go. No need to burn stadiums or watch Southend Utd, far less extreme measures could be applied. Sensible stuff. That actually keeps the money in our pockets. Because if the money stays there then the cunts can't demand bigger and bigger pay days, can they? And agents can't be paid the drug addled fees they get for doing whatever the fuck it is they do.

But this is all on the back of stupid comments like, yeah, I get why so and so would be a greedy, traitorous cunt, I understand it, nobody has the right to call him what he is, blah. That's what sets me off. The Twitter thing we should do anyway, as a matter of routine. Why not? Spreading the truth can't hurt. Glad there are people on there now calling Sagna what he is. Wouldn't do if he forgot it.

[Flavs]

I won't be wishing him any luck, especially if he's at Chelsea. However, it seems we don't want him and Barca are forcing him out, so whatever he does in that scenario is his own business.

If it is true that Barca are forcing him out and we don't want him, it is a pretty crappy situation for him. Hopefully he can do better than the Chavs or the Gypos.

Monaco :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

I won't be wishing him any luck, especially if he's at Chelsea. However, it seems we don't want him and Barca are forcing him out, so whatever he does in that scenario is his own business.

If it is true that Barca are forcing him out and we don't want him, it is a pretty crappy situation for him. Hopefully he can do better than the Chavs or the Gypos.

Grass wasn't greener as it turned out. Who could have guessed?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Grass wasn't greener as it turned out. Who could have guessed?

Sometimes shit happens. He didn't go to Barca for the money. As much as I was pissed off at his antics, I understood why he wanted to go to Barca and it was for a reason that was to do with the heart rather than the wallet.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sometimes shit happens. He didn't go to Barca for the money. As much as I was pissed off at his antics, I understood why he wanted to go to Barca and it was for a reason that was to do with the heart rather than the wallet.

He'd already had a taste of the Barca "culture" though, hadn't he? He can't be surprised at their Christmas morning puppy antics.

[Power n Glory]

I'm not going to bug out of a team I have supported for decades and are associated with some of my best memories just because some crappy cunts have descended and are grabbing whatever isn't nailed down. Apply the same logic to a burglary. What do you do if some cunt breaks in and starts robbing you? Understand him? Say fuck it and abandon the house? Hit the fucker with a 1 wood and piss on him I'd say. At the very least. Now the cunts who are robbing the game have the crooked law on their side, so we'd get in a whole heap of grief if we battered them to death. A fun idea but not worth the hassle. More modest methods might include not buying fucking hero worship shirts with somebody else's name plastered over the back. I never did that anyway, seemed a stupid idea to be called by a name and then have another name pinned to your back. So buy a shirt without the name on the back, that's a way of supporting the club - sort of, as it's also a way to support Kroenke, fuck it, maybe don't buy a shirt at all. These individual decisions add up, greedy fucks take notice when the combined action of many individuals hits their bottom line. Cultures can be changed when there's a will. Dog shit on the pavement, litter flying about the place, smoking on the underground, cultures can change. If people held their nose every time a footballer walked past instead of asking for a fucking autograph (another thing I never did), well maybe somebody somewhere will take notice and change their tune. Worth a go. No need to burn stadiums or watch Southend Utd, far less extreme measures could be applied. Sensible stuff. That actually keeps the money in our pockets. Because if the money stays there then the cunts can't demand bigger and bigger pay days, can they? And agents can't be paid the drug addled fees they get for doing whatever the fuck it is they do.

But this is all on the back of stupid comments like, yeah, I get why so and so would be a greedy, traitorous cunt, I understand it, nobody has the right to call him what he is, blah. That's what sets me off. The Twitter thing we should do anyway, as a matter of routine. Why not? Spreading the truth can't hurt. Glad there are people on there now calling Sagna what he is. Wouldn't do if he forgot it.

So if Arsenal were a house, wouldn't we be inviting a burglar back in if we brought Cesc back? :lol:

He's not our player anymore and we've chosen not to buy him. All this other stuff...changing culture....really? I usually hate it when people say this sort of thing to me but what the heck! It's just a game!

[Xhaka Can’t]

He'd already had a taste of the Barca "culture" though, hadn't he? He can't be surprised at their Christmas morning puppy antics.
Maybe not - but unlike those who are mercenaries and whose loyalty is only in line with the size of their next paycheck and whoever offers it, he made a decision from the heart. He could have gone about it better, but there you go.

[Munchies]

Barcelona will sign Rakitic for around €15m according to Di Marzio. 5 year contract. Nearly done


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FXoiV86v1U4

[Bergkampwonderland10]

I think a major pay-packet at chelsea might have turned Cescs head somewhat. He always said he would come back to arsenal but I don't think I'd want to see him at 35 with those hamstrings.

I am still hoping our lack of action in signing him is a smoke screen and that wenger actually can play tactical and not let him walk to a rival. But I always hope for stuff and it never happens…apart from us signing Dennis Bergkamp, Sol Campbell, and Thierry Henry (after he scored against Man U in a Juventus shirt) …wanted all those to happen…and wouldn't mind seeing Fabregas in an Arsenal shirt again...

[Munchies]

Defender Laurent Koscielny says Arsenal need to sign four new players this summer, with a top-class striker the main priority.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9339345/defender-laurent-koscielny-believes-arsenal-need-to-sign-striker
:bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

So if Arsenal were a house, wouldn't we be inviting a burglar back in if we brought Cesc back? :lol:

He's not our player anymore and we've chosen not to buy him. All this other stuff...changing culture....really? I usually hate it when people say this sort of thing to me but what the heck! It's just a game!

Maybe, if that's what the discussion was about. But it's not. As you know. Same deal as Sagna going to gypoland.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Well a lot of Arsenal fans were seeing him playing in Arteta's role, so maybe Chelsea are thinking along the same lines?

If they're planning on playing him in behind the striker though, then it does seem a bit weird? Why go to all the hassle of getting rid of Mata just to bring in Fabregas in?
More out of a peculiar desperation to get Arteta out the club, or at least off the field than any rational reasoning to why Cesc should be a holding midfielder.


I have to say, even letting my imagination run wild, I'm struggling to think who could possibly be that exciting? Too many years of having to rein in my expectations - my brain literally won't let me contemplate any signings beyond a certain level any more!

My thoughts exactly. Le Grove must think we're signing Jesus....or at least NQ's Kompany & Yaya Toure.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Why should Arteta be a holding midfielder?

[fakeyank]

Defender Laurent Koscielny says Arsenal need to sign four new players this summer, with a top-class striker the main priority.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9339345/defender-laurent-koscielny-believes-arsenal-need-to-sign-striker
:bow:

I remember RVC and other players saying similar things. AW in the end went and signed Park... dont hold your breath

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Defender Laurent Koscielny says Arsenal need to sign four new players this summer, with a top-class striker the main priority.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9339345/defender-laurent-koscielny-believes-arsenal-need-to-sign-striker
:bow:

I'd like a goal-scoring winger / wide-forward too, but I could live with Kozza's shopping list, if that's how it went down...

[I am invisible]

More out of a peculiar desperation to get Arteta out the club, or at least off the field than any rational reasoning to why Cesc should be a holding midfielder.
Which, again, makes me wonder why Cheslea need him? Then again, I suppose they have nothing much else to do now they've signed their striker, so why not?


My thoughts exactly. Le Grove must think we're signing Jesus....or at least NQ's Kompany & Yaya Toure.
The way they're talking, it sounds like they're thinking of someone that we haven't been linked with yet, but if that's the case then I'm drawing a blank on who it might be? Once you take away the players that we can categorically rule out (e.g. Messi, Ronaldo, anyone from our main rivals and anyone who has just moved, etc), then I can't think who is left who a) we haven't already been linked with, and b) would be that piss-your-pants exciting?

[Power n Glory]

Cesc would be perfect for Mourinho’s counter attacks and starting those quick transitions. It would make sense for Chelsea to bring him in. But I don’t think Cesc would enjoy the football considering he comes from two teams with strong attacking and passing principles. But he doesn’t have much choice of where he can go if he wants to come back to England. That’s if he wants to leave Spain. Atletico Madrid may have some spare change hanging around if there team get raped this summer. Germany may also be an option…who knows.

[I am invisible]

He'll want to be near his missus and daughter if he leaves Barca, which pretty much makes it us or Chelsea...

[Kano]

Great to hear Cesc is not returning. Fantastic player but we do not need to blow £30m plus wages on a CM. I want to see investment upfront first and foremost, that money has to be spent securing a couple of very good strikers to resolve that issue. Whatever is left we can spend in elsewhere.

I’ve always had a soft spot for Cesc even after his transfer to Barca but if he rolls up at Chavscum, then fuck him.

[Power n Glory]

I remember RVC and other players saying similar things. AW in the end went and signed Park... dont hold your breath

That's interesting.


"We need to recruit a very, very good striker, because it's important for us, for competition for places, because Olivier needs that to become even better," said Koscielny, who recently signed a contract extension until 2019.

"Having a striker who scores more than 30 goals a season can help us win the Premier League. Compared to the squads like Manchester City, even United, Chelsea, you can see there's a certain difference."

We need to make it happen because the players need to be prepared mentally going into next season and not feel handicapped. It's where we've fallen so many times before and why we've found it hard to keep our players.

[Özim]

Barcelona will sign Rakitic for around €15m according to Di Marzio. 5 year contract. Nearly done


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FXoiV86v1U4

15 million Euros is that all, what a real bargain!

[I am invisible]

Fuck me it's boring being an Arsenal fan at this time of year! Stupid, secretive club...

:tumbleweed: :ilt:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Rakitic is quite good. Shame we don't need him.



Anyway, I've come to report that Ribery has been ruled out of the world cup for France. This means that Greizzemann is certain to start for them in all their games!! We need to act now and fast before he puts in impressive performances and his value skyrockets! FFS, Wenger start moving now!

[Munchies]

Rakitic is quite good. Shame we don't need him.



Anyway, I've come to report that Ribery has been ruled out of the world cup for France. This means that Greizzemann is certain to start for them in all their games!! We need to act now and fast before he puts in impressive performances and his value skyrockets! FFS, Wenger start moving now!

That was my first thought aswell when I heard Ribery would be ruled out, get on it Wenger!

[I am invisible]

I think he's got a buyout clause, so he can do as well as he likes...

[I am invisible]

The whole Griezmann vs Draxler debate (from the other thread) does raise an interesting question - should we be going after the most impressive stats, or should we be concentrating more on attributes? In terms of output, you'd have to say that Griezmann looks the much better player right now, and would represent the better (cheaper) buy - however, the PL is a very different beast to Spain, and Draxler looks like he has the better build for it (and could be a bit of a monster with a bit of work)? I'm not sure which way I'd go, personally...

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I don't think there should be any debate, Draxler is a player in a position we are overloaded with players (central midfield or players that can play in the hole)....Griezmann offers us something we just don't have especially on the left side and that is width.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I don't think there should be any debate, Draxler is a player in a position we are overloaded with players (central midfield or players that can play in the hole)....Griezmann offers us something we just don't have especially on the left side and that is width.

And pace!!

[I am invisible]

And power.

[Munchies]

Yes, @cesc4official is very close to @chelseafc

https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/474961188900835329

[Xhaka Can’t]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRy5CmqRKLIe_AlsealAIHfhVb5bpxg6 YXHfuEo90CiYG5d0LmL

[Munchies]

Barcelona winger Pedro (26) has offers from several English teams. One of them would be Arsenal. [rac1]

Same source who broke the Cesc > Chelsea deal

Haven't watched too much La Liga, but he does have loads of pace.

Feo - Ozil - Pedro
------Striker-----

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Pedro is one of the stars of the Spanish team and Barcelona, one of the best wingers/strikers in the world...we won't be signing him...Barcelona are getting rid of Fabregas because he is surplass to requirements they aren't holding a boot sale for their top players.

[Munchies]

Who knows, maybe he wants to leave. I read a few articles a while back that he was unhappy at being a squad player.

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Marco Reus might miss the world cup, injured his ankle :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpeKm-lCIAAJX3e.jpg

[Munchies]

Last season:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpc2YBrIUAASjcP.png

[Munchies]

Podolski with yet another assist for Germany, he's on fire !

[Munchies]

And now a goal

Pods :bow:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Barcelona winger Pedro (26) has offers from several English teams. One of them would be Arsenal. [rac1]

Same source who broke the Cesc > Chelsea deal

Haven't watched too much La Liga, but he does have loads of pace.

Feo - Ozil - Pedro
------Striker-----

Do like this rumour.....but it says several English teams so.......?

Need a striker and CM, if we turned down Cesc then that must mean we are in for someone....time for those 'deep' negotiations to pop their head out

[Munchies]

Ozil's assist for Podolski's goal , wow, didn't even look

https://vine.co/v/MD1ME2bxnY5

[Munchies]

Mandatory 'selfie' from Podolski with Ozil

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpec4zKCMAA43_a.jpg

[selassie]

15 million Euros is that all, what a real bargain!

Yep, Rakitic has been one of the best Midfielders in Europe this season, top class player.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That's not a selfie tbf.

Also, if Barcelona get Rakitic and Reus, that's rather disgusting (unlikely now in Reus's case though perhaps). Although it'll be amusing to see what team Real Madrid ravage in response, assuming it's not us.

[selassie]

The whole Griezmann vs Draxler debate (from the other thread) does raise an interesting question - should we be going after the most impressive stats, or should we be concentrating more on attributes? In terms of output, you'd have to say that Griezmann looks the much better player right now, and would represent the better (cheaper) buy - however, the PL is a very different beast to Spain, and Draxler looks like he has the better build for it (and could be a bit of a monster with a bit of work)? I'm not sure which way I'd go, personally...

Draxler should develop into the far superior player. Draxler IMO has true world class potential and is technically already at a far superior level, if he bulks up a bit, he could turn into a forward in the Bale/Ronaldo kind of mould. I have no doubt he would rack up some insane numbers, goals and assists if he develops properly. Griezmann is a very good player and I would be very happy if we signed him but I don't believe he has all the tools to reach world class status, he is technically limited IMO although a very good player.

[selassie]

That's not a selfie tbf.

Also, if Barcelona get Rakitic and Reus, that's rather disgusting. Although it'll be amusing to see what team Real Madrid ravage in response, assuming it's not us.

Aye, maybe Madrid will go all out for Suarez?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'd expect something like that certainly. Hard to see where else they'd go really, Aguero maybe.

[Munchies]

BREAKING: Marco Reus has suffered a ligament tear and he will miss the World Cup. (BILD)

ffs

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Poor sod.

[Munchies]

Stumbled onto this Feo vid..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Xtf9IhUs0

Wow. Brings back memories

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Daily Heil says we had a 6 million bid for David Marshall rejected.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2649956/Arsenal-6m-offer-Cardiff-goalkeeper-David-Marshall-rejected.html


Thank god for that. 6 million for a backup keeper is far too excessive.

I much rather look for a Schwarzer/Friedel experienced but aging type to serve as capable and reliable backup. Surely there are some of those around?

Though Stekelenburg is surely worth a punt as I can see Fulham desperate to offload him now they've been relegated.



Edit - What about Valdes?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We've made our first signing of the summer guys!

It's a big name as well! :trophy:





Elias Chatzitheodoridis

17 year old Greek LB.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/06/arsenal-make-their-first-summer-signing-17-year-old-defender-elias-chatzitheodoridis-4752276/

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-rumours-lorenzo-insigne-3657569

Not much substance and based around how he does in the WC....usual non-committal BS we are famous for but still worth putting out there to chew on

[AFC Leveller]

Mail on Sunday say we are after Balotelli.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

There seems to be gathering momentum on the story that we're one of the clubs to have bid for Pedro.

[AFC Leveller]

Stumbled onto this Feo vid..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Xtf9IhUs0

Wow. Brings back memories

Best finisher at the club.

[Injury Time]

Stumbled onto this Feo vid..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Xtf9IhUs0

Wow. Brings back memories


Best finisher at the club.

Hmm our new RvC? Bit shit...hits form...gets injured, and repeat, and repeat, will have one flawless season and fuck off to a "big club"*


*okay I admit the one flawless season is a bit optimist...

[Penguin]

Nah, Podolski's our best finisher.

Pedro would be a good signing, he's a very intelligent player on and off the ball. His movement and finishing is classy. I hope Wenger's not thinking of getting him as our main CF though, he's much more effective out wide.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Read in Mirror that we have scouted Callum Chambers again.....and that we are hotting up on Mario for 20mil....(wtbf is not a bad price but tonnes of baggage!)

Says Shaw to Utd....is that true?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Pedro would be a good signing, he's a very intelligent player on and off the ball. His movement and finishing is classy. I hope Wenger's not thinking of getting him as our main CF though, he's much more effective out wide.

Yes, Pedro is quality. Would love to have him here and he's exactly what's needed. A pacy winger/forward who can make runs in behind and finish easily.

Saying that if it came to a choice between him and Greizemann I'd surprisingly take the Frenchman. Even though Pedro is currently undoubtedly the better player I actually think Greizemann will go on to easily become the better player. Whilst I don't think he'll get to Messi/Ronaldo or even Bale level I think he should be more than capable of getting to Ribery/Robben level which is good enough. I rate him that highly.

Obviously I'm not going shed any tears if we get Pedro instead though.

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Read in Mirror that we have scouted Callum Chambers again.....and that we are hotting up on Mario for 20mil....(wtbf is not a bad price but tonnes of baggage!)

Says Shaw to Utd....is that true?
I'd definitely be interested in Balotelli at that price! Bit of a gamble, but I'm really struggling to come up with other names at this point.

While we're on the subject of Southampton players, there's a few stories doing the rounds saying that Wenger is after Schneiderlin. I think he'd be a great buy for us, assuming we're not gonna get anyone mega in that area like Martinez - has Ramsey-like energy levels, and I think he's made more interceptions and tackles in defensive mid than any other player in the Prem for the last two seasons? Could do a lot worse.

Also being linked with Grenier again, but I still don't really see the point in that one?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I'd definitely be interested in Balotelli at that price! Bit of a gamble, but I'm really struggling to come up with other names at this point.

While we're on the subject of Southampton players, there's a few stories doing the rounds saying that Wenger is after Schneiderlin. I think he'd be a great buy for us, assuming we're not gonna get anyone mega in that area like Martinez - has Ramsey-like energy levels, and I think he's made more interceptions and tackles in defensive mid than any other player in the Prem for the last two seasons? Could do a lot worse.

Also being linked with Grenier again, but I still don't really see the point in that one?

Before Balotelli went to Citeh, I was screaming for us to put a bid in for him but after he went to Citeh and the subsequent episodes, I thought thank Christ we didn't! However now that it looks as if he is back on the market, I can't help finding myself leaning towards thinking we would not be so crazy to make a run at him. I hope that the years past have matured this obviously talented player out a bit. I also think that Wenger is no fool (no laughing at the back) at least when it comes to judging characters and that if we really are interested in him then Wenger is confident of controlling the troubled mind that Balotelli seems to travel around with.

We don't have a sudden match winner, Giroud scores goals, misses more and very rarely produces a sudden march winning moment.....Mario can and for 20 mil would be a good but if business as it leaves us with squids to spare.....with which I would bring in Remy and I like the idea of Schneiderlin. With those three in we still could recruit for defence and GK. Can see Wenger exercising a loan option....you know the kind we are really good at securing???

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Not sure how related this is as we were never in for him but there's a picture doing the rounds on Twitter of Gundogen, who's missed most of this year due to injury.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpnKwAXIMAAc03D.jpg:large


Spot what's changed.

[Munchies]

Not sure how related this is as we were never in for him but there's a picture doing the rounds on Twitter of Gundogen, who's missed most of this year due to injury.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpnKwAXIMAAc03D.jpg:large


Spot what's changed.

I saw those headlines too, don't get it, just a load of crap to get page views.

He looks fine for someone who hasn't been able to train in a year :lol: He could lose that in a month of training again.

He's a top player on his day, but his back injury is related to nerve issues which could be difficult to manage if it reoccurs.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpjgm22IMAAaeS3.png

[Munchies]

Also, Gundogan is probably a carbon copy of Ramsey, he's a true box to box midfielder.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Pretty much what happens to all footballers when they stop playing.....although usually retired ones admittedly. A year out is a long time though! Never really been sure of how good he is personally as I've hardly seem him for myself but he does seem one of those fashionable names people throw about in midfield.

[Munchies]

Griezmann has scored twice for France right now, 8-0 Jamaica :haha:

Sign him up Wenger!

Wenger is commentating on the match, so hopefully he sees how good Griezmann is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CCoVX1hUsL0

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_imwdXazayE

Fucking hell, wow :bow:

[Munchies]

And Giroud scored too..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xu1jBUTj2go

[Injury Time]

Griezmann has scored twice for France right now, 8-0 Jamaica :haha:

Sign him up Wenger!

Wenger is commentating on the match, so hopefully he sees how good Griezmann is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CCoVX1hUsL0
He vill not zee it...Probably sign the donut that missed the sitter :blink:

[Injury Time]

So the number 10 has been involved in all the goals I've seen so far...oh right...him :crying:

[Munchies]

Main vid of Ozil in his first season. Great highlight.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUiwTMG4BqQ

Not a bad first season with Feo/Ramsey injured, and Giroud infront of him.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpo0VXsCQAAB6fg.png

Griezmann looks like Ramsey with half of his hair shaved off :lol:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

The doughnut is Valbuena who is actually a decent player. Diminutive, little sneaky trickster of a player.

Wenger would have been aware of Griezzman pretty much from the moment he joined his first pro French club. You can be sure of that. Sorry to reign on the parade but I'd be fairly surprised if Wenger signs him. Possibly astonished.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

FFS, those two goals alone would have added about five million to his fee. :doh:


Hopefully as a commentator of the game and as a respected figure in French football Arsene managed to meet the team after the game and spend a few minutes talking to Greizemann and outlined to him the fantastic weather in North London. We can only hope. :(


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bpo0VXsCQAAB6fg.png

Griezmann looks like Ramsey with half of his hair shaved off :lol:

Where the fuck are Giroud or Kos? :fury:


Don't let that greaseball Benzema get his hands all over him and tap him up for a move to Real. :sick:

[Ralpheroo72]

8-0? Looks like they played the Jamaican bobsleigh team.

[Injury Time]

8-0? Looks like they played the Jamaican bobsleigh team.

Don't worry it's all down hill from here for France...

[Injury Time]

The doughnut is Valbuena who is actually a decent player. Diminutive, little sneaky trickster of a player..
hmm sounds familiar...

[selassie]

I think there must be a lot of truth in this because we've been quite strongly linked with this kid for a while now. From the little I have seen of him he looks a prospect but....I don't like the idea of him and Jenks as our no.1 and no.2 right backs.....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-eye-calum-chambers-transfer-3661519



Arsenal eye Calum Chambers transfer from Southampton to replace Bacary Sagna

Jun 08, 2014 10:02
By Tom Hopkinson, Neil Moxley


The Saints teenager has impressed for England's Under-19s and made 21 league appearances at full-back last season

Gunner go? Arsenal are chasing Southampton and England U19s defender Chambers

Arsenal will make a move for Southampton teenager Calum Chambers after scouting him twice for England Under-19s, write Neil Moxley and Tom Hopkinson in the Sunday People.

The Londoners have monitored the right-back since he broke into the Saints' first team on the opening day of the last campaign in a win at West Brom.

And now they are primed to pounce to secure his services after sending representatives to watch him during recent Euro Championship qualifiers against Scotland and Ukraine.

Chambers, 19, has emerged as a leading candidate to take over from Bacary Sagna, who has opted to join Manchester City on a Bosman.

He signed a four-year deal last summer so the fee will be substantial but not in the same league as the £27million being paid by Manchester United for Luke Shaw.

Arsene Wenger views Chambers as quality competition for Carl Jenkinson.

[Globalgunner]

Very typical Arsene Wenger. Cheap option instead of ready made replacement Aurier

Proven player available for the position we need.......Check
Player indicates he wants to come..........Check
Competition emerges for same player.....Check
We go instead for the cheap option......Double check

[Munchies]

I'd rather get Aurier too, Chambers could end up like Jenkinson.

Aurier could end up like Sagna or Eboue, who were both better than Jenkinson

[Munchies]

what happenned to raiding Everton for Coleman ?

[milla]

what happenned to raiding Everton for Coleman ?

Muchies :haha:

[Globalgunner]

what happenned to raiding Everton for Coleman ?

Same thing that happened to Father Xmas. ......Turned out it was all just a fairy tale

[I am invisible]

Have we ever been linked with Coleman?

[I am invisible]

Very typical Arsene Wenger. Cheap option instead of ready made replacement Aurier

Proven player available for the position we need.......Check
Player indicates he wants to come..........Check
Competition emerges for same player.....Check
We go instead for the cheap option......Double check

I bet he's not the cheaper option! I could quite easily see Southampton wanting more than the £7m or so that Aurier would (supposedly) cost us...

[Globalgunner]

I bet he's not the cheaper option! I could quite easily see Southampton wanting more than the £7m or so that Aurier would (supposedly) cost us...

Aurier would probably cost 10m, but if Chelsea are interested as we hear then easily he will cost 12 or 15. No way can an unproven kid who has never played a minute of prem football cost as much as that

[I am invisible]

Aurier would probably cost 10m, but if Chelsea are interested as we hear then easily he will cost 12 or 15. No way can an unproven kid who has never played a minute of prem football cost as much as that

Actually, he played 23 games for Southampton last season. If they're pushing for £25-30m for players like Shaw and Lallana, then I can easily see them wanting £10-15m for Chambers...

[selassie]

Very typical Arsene Wenger. Cheap option instead of ready made replacement Aurier

Proven player available for the position we need.......Check
Player indicates he wants to come..........Check
Competition emerges for same player.....Check
We go instead for the cheap option......Double check

Yup, sad but true. :(

[Özim]

So we're linked with one of the Southampton nobodies as a replacement for Sagna. Fantastic news.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

He's not a nobody - he's actually quite a good player and is highly rated by the Southampton staff. He just hasn't been exposed to the same level of media wank as Shaw and Lallana because he hasn't been as flashy as them .... which is quite a good thing as they can't exploit that to inflate his price.

On him or Aurier .... Aurier should definitely be the better option to go for right now. Club captain, better physical presence, more experienced and generally a better Sagna replacement. And he'll be the same price if not cheaper than Chambers as he isn't subject to the English tax levy. It's not like we should have any problems fulfilling or homegrown quota either so it'll be quite a bizarre move if it occurs (paper talk at the moment).

Only thing I can speculate on is that Wenger is not keen on losing an important defender for a month every two years for the ACON or that he thinks that Chambers will go on to become the significantly better player.

[I am invisible]

I don't know if it's specifically the African thing, but Wenger definitely seems to be more in favour of establishing a British core these days...

[Munchies]

This guy is well known to be full of shit, and said we were going to re-sign RVC, but:


@tancredipalmeri ·

EXCLUSIVE: Manchester United have outbid the wages offered by Chelsea to Fabregas. Still no bid placed to Barcelona, who prefer Chelsea
https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri

[Globalgunner]

Actually, he played 23 games for Southampton last season. If they're pushing for £25-30m for players like Shaw and Lallana, then I can easily see them wanting £10-15m for Chambers...

You're right and I'm wrong Shit!. I swear I've never heard of him. I still prefer Aurier. Cant see how he is going to be better and they are both still kids. AFCON is 6 weeks every 2 years. If Jenks cant fill in for that gap, then we should dump him ASAP

[I am invisible]

You're right and I'm wrong Shit!. I swear I've never heard of him. I still prefer Aurier. Cant see how he is going to be better and they are both still kids. AFCON is 6 weeks every 2 years. If Jenks cant fill in for that gap, then we should dump him ASAP

I hadn't heard of him either until we started getting linked with him, so I don't really have any strong opinions on him one way or the other really.

And the same goes for Aurier, if I'm being honest - I like what I've read about him so far, but I've seen about as much of him with my own eyes as I have of Chambers.

Purely on price though, I just can't see a player from Ligue 1 costing more than a promising young English player from a PL side (especially after we've all just had that massive bump in TV revenue)? It's not about what the player's actually worth - it's about what it will cost to persuade the selling club to sell, if they don't want to or have to. If we're going on cost, then I'd say Aurier would probably be the more attractive, easily attainable buy, so if Chambers turns out to be the more expensive of the two then you'd like to think there must be something decent about him for us to pass up on a cheaper option who sounds more than good enough?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I don't think there should be any debate, Draxler is a player in a position we are overloaded with players (central midfield or players that can play in the hole)....Griezmann offers us something we just don't have especially on the left side and that is width.

Nothing to say Draxler will player in central midfield or the hole. He is equally likely to play wide as is the now a familiar development paradigm for young players coming here in any part of the attacking department.

Aurier would probably cost 10m, but if Chelsea are interested as we hear then easily he will cost 12 or 15. No way can an unproven kid who has never played a minute of prem football cost as much as that
Wasn't Chamberlain pretty much in that position?

You're right and I'm wrong Shit!. I swear I've never heard of him. I still prefer Aurier. Cant see how he is going to be better and they are both still kids. AFCON is 6 weeks every 2 years. If Jenks cant fill in for that gap, then we should dump him ASAP

A very reasonable counter argument to the anti-African player mantra continuously spouted.

We've been kind of taking it as all signed, sealed and delivered that Sagna plays for City, Aurier now plays for Arsenal etc etc.....and it all may well happen like that but nothing has been done yet even though we all speak as if it has.

It is important to mention that whoever Wenger brings in has it to prove. Even Aurier hasn't proven he is at the top level yet.

[Penguin]

Nothing to say Draxler will player in central midfield or the hole. He is equally likely to play wide as is the now a familiar development paradigm for young players coming here in any part of the attacking department.

That's exactly the problem. We don't NEED another ineffective CAM on the wing. We need some variety.

[I am invisible]

I could actually see it working pretty well? We currently have two central play-makers in Ozil and Cazorla who can (and have) both played wide before (down either flank), and I think they'd be a great foil for wide players who can come central - stick a couple of decent wing-backs behind the wide guys too, and there's the makings of quite a fluid formation there...

[Penguin]

We've been doing it for years but has it ever been effective? It was at its best for the invincibles, with Pires playing on the left. But one of the main reasons for its success was that he had Henry in front of him playing a pseudo wide-left forward role and basically providing the width and pace for us. None of our other forwards since have given us that, and it has affected our ability to break down teams.

It's an ongoing problem. We tend to pass too slow and predictably against organised teams who sit deep and keep their shape. We lumber our way through the game without seriously looking like scoring until the last 15 minutes when the opponent's tire (Wenger even suggested that this is actual one of our strategies...). Of course the risk here is that we don't miraculously find a way through right at the end, or that they counter us and nick a win cause we're pushing everyone forward. Which has happened time and time again.

The pundits kind of had it right when they said we don't have a 'plan B'. But really, the top teams have a plan C and a plan D as well. We need more variety on the pitch so we can mix it up. Don't forget that having more direct players and runners in the team would get more out of the likes of Ozil and Cazorla too as it would give them something to aim at, rather than having another similar player who occupies the same spaces as them.

I'm not saying that signing a winger like Griezmann would fix all that but it would be a step in the right direction.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We've been doing it for years but has it ever been effective? It was at its best for the invincibles, with Pires playing on the left. But one of the main reasons for its success was that he had Henry in front of him playing a pseudo wide-left forward role and basically providing the width and pace for us. None of our other forwards since have given us that, and it has affected our ability to break down teams.

It's an ongoing problem. We tend to pass too slow and predictably against organised teams who sit deep and keep their shape. We lumber our way through the game without seriously looking like scoring until the last 15 minutes when the opponent's tire (Wenger even suggested that this is actual one of our strategies...). Of course the risk here is that we don't miraculously find a way through right at the end, or that they counter us and nick a win cause we're pushing everyone forward. Which has happened time and time again.

The pundits kind of had it right when they said we don't have a 'plan B'. But really, the top teams have a plan C and a plan D as well. We need more variety on the pitch so we can mix it up. Don't forget that having more direct players and runners in the team would get more out of the likes of Ozil and Cazorla too as it would give them something to aim at, rather than having another similar player who occupies the same spaces as them.

I'm not saying that signing a winger like Griezmann would fix all that but it would be a step in the right direction.

:gp:

The results this year have shown us that we painfully need a player like Griezmann in the squad.


Theo on the right and Griezmann on the left with Ozil/Santi and Ramsey feeding them balls. :cloud9:

[GP]

feeding them balls. :cloud9:

lmao

[fakeyank]

Have we signed anyone yet? :lol:

Looks like another usual Arsene Wenger's customary Arsenal transfer window :rolleyes:

[Power n Glory]

We've been doing it for years but has it ever been effective? It was at its best for the invincibles, with Pires playing on the left. But one of the main reasons for its success was that he had Henry in front of him playing a pseudo wide-left forward role and basically providing the width and pace for us. None of our other forwards since have given us that, and it has affected our ability to break down teams.

It's an ongoing problem. We tend to pass too slow and predictably against organised teams who sit deep and keep their shape. We lumber our way through the game without seriously looking like scoring until the last 15 minutes when the opponent's tire (Wenger even suggested that this is actual one of our strategies...). Of course the risk here is that we don't miraculously find a way through right at the end, or that they counter us and nick a win cause we're pushing everyone forward. Which has happened time and time again.

The pundits kind of had it right when they said we don't have a 'plan B'. But really, the top teams have a plan C and a plan D as well. We need more variety on the pitch so we can mix it up. Don't forget that having more direct players and runners in the team would get more out of the likes of Ozil and Cazorla too as it would give them something to aim at, rather than having another similar player who occupies the same spaces as them.

I'm not saying that signing a winger like Griezmann would fix all that but it would be a step in the right direction.

:gp:

I haven't seen much of this Griezmann kid, but will soon see what he can do during the World Cup. But you're right about this left wing position. We've experimented with a host of different type of players and had very little success. Reyes, Rosicky, Arshavin, Nasri, Gervinho, Podolski, Cazorla....all of them very good players but none of come close to doing what's needed on the wing. It's not as if they didn't/don't have the ability to do a job either.

I think we need to start coaching dribbling technique and stop depending on pass, pass pass to penetrate stubborn defensive systems. Our wide players should be taking more risks and testing their wingbacks. We just don't see that in our game anymore. Henry and Pires used to cause havoc on the left wing because they'd dribble from the left, cutting into the middle and invite tackles. These days, our players always look for the quick one two to beat an opponent instead of inviting the challenge. We need a few selfish individuals to have a go and play without fear. We saw a glimpse of it in Arshavin's, Gervinho's and Ox's first season. That side of their game disappeared in the 2nd season.

[selassie]

We've been doing it for years but has it ever been effective? It was at its best for the invincibles, with Pires playing on the left. But one of the main reasons for its success was that he had Henry in front of him playing a pseudo wide-left forward role and basically providing the width and pace for us. None of our other forwards since have given us that, and it has affected our ability to break down teams.

It's an ongoing problem. We tend to pass too slow and predictably against organised teams who sit deep and keep their shape. We lumber our way through the game without seriously looking like scoring until the last 15 minutes when the opponent's tire (Wenger even suggested that this is actual one of our strategies...). Of course the risk here is that we don't miraculously find a way through right at the end, or that they counter us and nick a win cause we're pushing everyone forward. Which has happened time and time again.

The pundits kind of had it right when they said we don't have a 'plan B'. But really, the top teams have a plan C and a plan D as well. We need more variety on the pitch so we can mix it up. Don't forget that having more direct players and runners in the team would get more out of the likes of Ozil and Cazorla too as it would give them something to aim at, rather than having another similar player who occupies the same spaces as them.

I'm not saying that signing a winger like Griezmann would fix all that but it would be a step in the right direction.

:gp:

[I am invisible]

Real Sociedad's president has apparently confirmed that we want to activate Vela's buy back clause - £3.2m.

Edit: doesn't mean it's done or anything, but it sounds like some things are starting to happen behind the scenes (at least between us and Sociedad anyway).

[fakeyank]

Step in the right direction. Now to get Remy and we will have a good forward line up. Kill Arteta and buy a replacement for him (hopefully Cesc) and we should be good in CM.

Oh, add a RB and a back up goalie (Viviano is fine tbh)

[Fist of Lehmann]

Real Sociedad's president has apparently confirmed that we want to activate Vela's buy back clause - £3.2m.

Edit: doesn't mean it's done or anything, but it sounds like some things are starting to happen behind the scenes (at least between us and Sociedad anyway).

No Griezmann then. Shame.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Vela is not what we need.

There's a reason why he is good in Spain - cause he's not trying to play in the PL anymore.

Let's hope this is just because he is available so cheap as a squad option and the real money transfers wil be something to look forward to.

[Globalgunner]

If there is a choice between Great, Good and Cheap, Why do we always prefer the last option.....Sheesh. No competition for Giroud...Just what we need.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Vela is not what we need.

There's a reason why he is good in Spain - cause he's not trying to play in the PL anymore.

Let's hope this is just because he is available so cheap as a squad option and the real money transfers wil be something to look forward to.

Yep I'm a bit skeptical as well because of his past struggles in England but because it's cheap there's not much risk involved in the deal. I hope he isn't the only striker brought in though as that'll be inexcusable.

1) WC Striker
2) Giroud
3) Vela
4) Sanago

Should be decent enough to compete for the league.


The problem is that if we get Vela I'm not sure Soceidad would let us have Greizemann. :( Unless we can arrange a double swoop for them kind of like Barca did with us for Overmars and Petit.

[selassie]

Real Sociedad's president has apparently confirmed that we want to activate Vela's buy back clause - £3.2m.

Edit: doesn't mean it's done or anything, but it sounds like some things are starting to happen behind the scenes (at least between us and Sociedad anyway).

That's our new striker signed then. No more attacking signings....:faint:

[I am invisible]

No Griezmann then. Shame.

Well, like I was saying, it sounds like it's still a way away from being a done, and there's still a chance it could all be a bit of bluff in a move for Griezmann? Until we actually see him in an Arsenal shirt, then all we really know is that we're in talks with Sociedad.

I wouldn't be upset if we did end up with Vela though - by any objective measure you care to pick, he comes out as the better player of the two (and Griezmann looks a good player himself!). He scored a goal more than the french lad, got 3x as many assists, and from what I've read from Sociedad fans, he's faster, a better dribbler, can play more positions, and is generally more integral to their game. He's also an inch taller, if that's important to anyone, and would cost about an eighth of the price, so won't really make a dent in our budget.

(And I suppose it's also worth remembering that it's by no means certain that we'd get Griezmann if we went after him - if clubs like PSG are sniffing around, then it's highly likely he'd opt for the petro-dollars over us.)

Don't get me wrong though, I'd be equally happy if we somehow ended up with Griezmann instead - he's another one of several options who are on my short list for goal-scoring wide attackers that we could add to the squad. At this point, I kind of view any of them as bonus signing, because it then seems far more likely that we'll be going after more than one attacker this summer...

[Globalgunner]

I think the history of Spanish strikers in the EPL is not that great. Aguero apart, even Torres lasted only 2 seasons at Pool. As for Vela, we've seen what he can do before, and its not that great. If he comes in along with Mario and or Etoo, I would be happy. Otherwise Meh!

[I am invisible]

That's our new striker signed then. No more attacking signings....:faint:

Nah, I reckon we're looking at him as a wide attacker like Walcott - it might mean that we'll stop looking at other similar players, like Griezmann and Remy, but I still think we'll be looking for a CF...

[Power n Glory]

Yeah, I think Vela will play from a wide position. I have no problem with this move, even if it's the cheaper option. He's just as much as a hot prospect/risk as the other players but he has the more consistent stats. Makes little sense to pay a much higher fee for a similar player unless they completely overshadow Vela.

[I am invisible]

I think the history of Spanish strikers in the EPL is not that great. Aguero apart, even Torres lasted only 2 seasons at Pool. As for Vela, we've seen what he can do before, and its not that great. If he comes in along with Mario and or Etoo, I would be happy. Otherwise Meh!

You might well be right, but I'm a little uncomfortable with that argument because we'd then have to apply it to anyone else that we might be looking at from Spain (Griezmann, Snachez, Pedro, Benzema, Di Maria, etc), and I'm not sure we can really afford to be putting up such a sweeping barrier to potential signings? I think we have to be looking at this on an individual by individual basis.

If we're talking about Vela specifically, then I'd be prepared to give him another chance - if someone like Ramsey can go from being a bit of a 'meh' player to the best player in his position over the course of one summer, then it's not unreasonable to think that other young players might also just suddenly 'click' at some point. I know there's a worry that he failed to settle once so he might not settle again, but I think he'd have a bit more in his favour this time to help him handle the transition this time - he's in his mid 20s now and has been living away from home for years, and not a teenager moving straight from Mexico, he knows what he'd be walking into in the country and the league, he knows the club, he nows the manager, he might still know some of the players, he speaks English now, and there's also more Spanish speakers at the club too.

I'm with you on agreeing that his signing on his own would be nowhere near enough though - if he can manage to bring his current form with him from Spain then he looks like he'd be a great option as a wide attacker for us, but even at the very top of his game, it still wouldn't make him a suitable CF option for us in the system we play. Someone else would have to be coming in too.

[I am invisible]

Yeah, I think Vela will play from a wide position. I have no problem with this move, even if it's the cheaper option. He's just as much as a hot prospect/risk as the other players but he has the more consistent stats. Makes little sense to pay a much higher fee for a similar player unless they completely overshadow Vela.

In this case he's not the cheap option because he's an inferior player - he's cheap specifically to us, and us only, because we still half own his rights and have a clause in his contract. Without that I think they'd be looking for as much as (if not more than) Griezmann, so I really don't think his price tag should factor into this...

[Power n Glory]

In this case he's not the cheap option because he's an inferior player - he's cheap specifically to us, and us only, because we still half own his rights and have a clause in his contract. Without that I think they'd be looking for as much as (if not more than) Griezmann, so I really don't think his price tag should factor into this...

Yes, very true. He's not the cheap option because he's inferior. Far from it. But if we're being honest and if reports are true and we wrap this up quickly, we're moving for him because of the price tag. That's just how we do things as a club and I won't knock them for that this time. Draxler and Griezmann are unproven and probably have a bit more hype behind them on these boards.

[I am invisible]

Yes, very true. He's not the cheap option because he's inferior. Far from it. But if we're being honest and if reports are true and we wrap this up quickly, we're moving for him because of the price tag. That's just how we do things as a club and I won't knock them for that this time. Draxler and Griezmann are unproven and probably have a bit more hype behind them on these boards.

If we end up cheaping out on every deal we go for this summer, then I think the club will have some serious questions to answer, but, as you say, you can't really blame them in this one instance? If you're looking at two players, where one would cost you 30m and the other, who is statistically better, would only cost you 3m, then it would be pretty crazy to go for the 30m option purely for the sake of not looking cheap and making a statement. There has to be a stronger reason for it than that...

[Munchies]

Carlos Vela would be a welcome addition really. Can play across the front 3 and is an upgrade on what we currently have.

Bendtner is gone ( :bow: ) , Sanogo will probably go out on loan, so we need atleast 2-3 forwards in alongside Giroud.

If that £3m clause wasn't in, he'd probably be going for £15m or so

[GP]

So we'll probably just move him on and make an instant £10m profit.

[Munchies]

One of the greatest midfielders in the world :bow:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIf9zMhmCa8

[Injury Time]

One of the greatest midfielders in the world :bow:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIf9zMhmCa8
15:41 :bow:
Hey why is this on the transfer page!? :angry:

[Niall_Quinn]

So far not one single decent name mentioned. Vela? Sure, snap him up as a snack - big wow, might get a few +1s, but so far my socks aren't rolling up and down. Not a single decent name mentioned with anything to back it up other than, inside sources reveal - which means, made up shit. Every realistic name mentioned so far - SHIT. I mean they are all capable of playing football but compared to the type of player it will take to move us from almost challenging to actually challenging - Vela, a couple of nothing full backs, some Spanish kid who has done fuck all but might be decent in 20 years, S, H, I, T.

maybe this is due to the World Cup, maybe the agent leeches have their whores on hold and no real negotiations can take place. But we could have at least signed Fabregas by now, that seemed like an easy enough banker. What a fuck up - not signed yet. I think I'll need to brick somebody in the face for that one next time I'm up at the Emirates - which is fine because it will be never. Millions clawed in - fuck all spent.

GET FUCKING SPENDING OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.

Bastian might be free - 20 mill now, no fucking around, 30 if need be. 40 - fuck it who cares, 10 years spending NOTHING! Fucking sign him if we aren't (for whatever fucked up insane reason, not signing Fabregas)

[KSE Comedy Club]

So far not one single decent name mentioned. Vela? Sure, snap him up as a snack - big wow, might get a few +1s, but so far my socks aren't rolling up and down. Not a single decent name mentioned with anything to back it up other than, inside sources reveal - which means, made up shit. Every realistic name mentioned so far - SHIT. I mean they are all capable of playing football but compared to the type of player it will take to move us from almost challenging to actually challenging - Vela, a couple of nothing full backs, some Spanish kid who has done fuck all but might be decent in 20 years, S, H, I, T.

maybe this is due to the World Cup, maybe the agent leeches have their whores on hold and no real negotiations can take place. But we could have at least signed Fabregas by now, that seemed like an easy enough banker. What a fuck up - not signed yet. I think I'll need to brick somebody in the face for that one next time I'm up at the Emirates - which is fine because it will be never. Millions clawed in - fuck all spent.

GET FUCKING SPENDING OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.

Bastian might be free - 20 mill now, no fucking around, 30 if need be. 40 - fuck it who cares, 10 years spending NOTHING! Fucking sign him if we aren't (for whatever fucked up insane reason, not signing Fabregas)

Hear hear!

There can be no more excuses.

Wenger has just signed a 3 year contract, whether some fans are happy about it or not, that is where we are at.

He has just won the FA cup which is a good step forward in unison with his extension, however, he will only get one chance at this transfer window to keep the faith of the fans.

If him and the board fuck this one up, they can kiss all that goodwill and support goodbye.

[Özim]

GET FUCKING SPENDING OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES.

There are no consequences, if they don't spend they don't spend, that's it.

[Penguin]

Be patient guys, we didn't sign Ozil until 23:59:59

[KSE Comedy Club]

Be patient guys, we didn't sign Ozil until 23:59:59

No.

We've been patient enough.

Our transfer business should be concluded before the season starts this time round.

It won't happen, but that is what should / needs to happen.

[I am invisible]

Anyone know anything about this Brzilian CB, Bressan, we're being linked with? Apparently Dick law has been dispatched to negotiate.

That's a stroke of luck, eh? Finding a Brazilian player you have to head out and negotiate for while the World Cup is on in Brazil?

[I am invisible]

Looks like the 'Puma helping Arsenal to buy Balotelli' stories are back...

[Injury Time]

Anyone know anything about this Brzilian CB, Bressan, we're being linked with? Apparently Dick law has been dispatched to negotiate.

That's a stroke of luck, eh? Finding a Brazilian player you have to head out and negotiate for while the World Cup is on in Brazil?
So can claim the hookers on expenses, who says these guys don't know what they're doing?

[Injury Time]

Looks like the 'Puma helping Arsenal to buy Balotelli' stories are back...

What are they going to do, leave a trail of trainers to The Emirates? :blink:

[I am invisible]

What are they going to do, leave a trail of trainers to The Emirates? :blink:

Maybe a Ferrari stuffed with cash or something?

[Globalgunner]

Apparently Vela doesn't want to come back to us and be playing second fiddle to Oliver the great. Cant say I blame him. The striker search continues then. Who knew that it would be this tough to replace Bendtner

[I am invisible]

Vela's said a lot of things so far this summer - seems to have left the door open to just about every possible outcome...

[Fist of Lehmann]

Who is Bressan? (http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/12/who-is-arsenal-transfer-target-bressan-the-full-lowdown-on-the-gremio-star-4759183/)

In summary, a young Brazilian Koscielny it says here.

[I am invisible]

Sounds more like the kind of player we should targeting for a 3rd/4th choice CB - young and promising. About time we started raiding South America for some talent too...

[Globalgunner]

Sounds more like the kind of player we should targeting for a 3rd/4th choice CB - young and promising. About time we started raiding South America for some talent too...
I agree, the girls are so fine

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Sounds more like the kind of player we should targeting for a 3rd/4th choice CB - young and promising. About time we started raiding South America for some talent too...

Time for Santos to come home :bow:

[I am invisible]

Time for Santos to come home :bow:

I said "talent"...

[I am invisible]

I agree, the girls are so fine

Now we're talking!

[Penguin]

Apparently Vela doesn't want to come back to us and be playing second fiddle to Oliver the great. Cant say I blame him. The striker search continues then. Who knew that it would be this tough to replace Bendtner

We could put a dead monkey upfront to replace Bendtner :lol:

Van Persie is the one we still haven't replaced

[Munchies]

Exclusive: Cesc Fabregas is set to move to Chelsea within 48 hours apparently. Just been sent this!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp76Zh-IAAAAlgA.jpg

urgh.. :sick:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

With how good some people are at Photoshop these days I won't believe it until it's confirmed on their website.


If it's true then,

Cesc :rose:

For what he was and not what he became.

[Munchies]

Looks 100% real sadly. You hardly see fakes this good.

:(

[Marc Overmars]

Vile.

[Munchies]

Was leaked.. now confirmed:

http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/agreement-with-chelsea-for-the-transfer-of-cesc-fabregas

Fuck!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp8DWmsIYAAuaQN.jpg

:sick: :sick: :sick:

[Power n Glory]

Nooooooo!!!

[GP]

cunt

[Power n Glory]

It's on Sky Sports News!

[Munchies]

:crying:

Feel like shit, ffs!

[Power n Glory]

Our attacking midfield players better shape up for next season. Wenger has shown serious faith in that lot to pass up an opportunity to sign Cesc.

I want no excuses for this window. Chelsea have managed to sign a player on the day the World Cup starts and we're still mucking around. We better know what we're doing this year.

[Munchies]

Costa and Cesc signed before the world cup.

Wenger wake up :doh:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Confirmed on the BBC as well. Five year deal!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27819204


Fabregas, on World Cup duty with Spain, said Chelsea matched his football ambitions, adding he had "unfinished business" in the Premier League.
"I considered all the other offers very carefully and I firmly believe that Chelsea is the best choice," he said.


:lol::lol:

What other deals Cesc? Chelsea were the only ones on the table by all accounts.



Anyway, if Wenger and Gazidis don't pull of at least one major deal before the first PL game there could be a repeat of the events after the Villa game last year. Like I've said before I have no problem in letting Cesc go (assuming we were his first choice preference, which was what was reported) but only if we reinforce in the areas we need to with top quality, i.e. LW, Striker and DM.

Don't fuck up again please.

[Marc Overmars]

"Firstly I would like to thank everyone at FC Barcelona where I enjoyed three wonderful years,” said Fabregas.

“It was my childhood club and I will always be proud and honoured that I had a chance to play for such a great team.

“I do feel that I have unfinished business in the Premier League and now is the right time for my return.

“Yes, everyone knows that Arsenal had the first option to sign me. They decided not to take up this option and therefore it wasn't meant to be. I wish them well in the future.

“I considered all the other offers very carefully and I firmly believe that Chelsea is the best choice. They match my footballing ambitions with their hunger and desire to win trophies.

“They have an amazing squad of players and an incredible manager. I am fully committed to this team and I can't wait to start playing.

“It was extremely important to me that this transfer was completed before the World Cup so that my mind will only be focussed on hopefully helping my country try to retain the trophy."

Just :sick: on so many levels.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Lots of GW users been crying like little girls on here because mean old Arsene didn't sign Fabregas?, as horrible as it is seeing him in a Chelsea shirt I have no malice he didnt go there directly from Arsenal and we didnt want him back.
As for Diego Costa, the most overhyped Diego since Diego Tristan

[A Gunner]

I didn't have feelings with all the gossip talk.

Now it's official, I do feel sick. If Cesc really love Arsenal, he wouldn't choose Chelsea!!!

[Gooner23]

Wenger better have something fucking good up his sleeve because seeing Cesc in a Chelsea shirt is just rank.

[Özim]

Wenger better have something fucking good up his sleeve because seeing Cesc in a Chelsea shirt is just rank.

A French nobody from the league of French nobodies most likely!

[Gooner23]

I didn't have feelings with all the gossip talk.

Now it's official, I do feel sick. If Cesc really love Arsenal, he wouldn't choose Chelsea!!!

Can't blame him because we didn't want him back. A return to London was always likely to be on the cards.

[Munchies]

This is worse than RVC leaving for United..

:rose:

Cesc is 10x the player Wilshere will ever be, Rosicky/Arteta/Flamini are all over 30.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I can't imagine the Chelsea fans will be happy with him making the comment about us having the option to buy him as it sort of confirms we were his always his first choice. :lol:

There's already some distrust (not Rafa levels) of Cesc among some Chelsea fans because of his past history with them.


I'm guessing he doesn't want Nasri/RVP levels of booing and jeering from the Arsenal fans.

[Kano]

He's just moved from distant friend to absolute cunt, just like that. Fuck him.

[Power n Glory]

This is worse than RVC leaving for United..

:rose:

It's up there.

Always liked Cesc but I'm going to end up disliking him by default! I can't stand that cunt RVP now. Just wait until we see him celebrate there goals, a goal or assist against us or when he gets into a scuffle with one of our boys.

[Niall_Quinn]

Unless we are moving into the £50mill category again this now guarantees a finish below the chavs. They have signed a great player who will make a huge difference for them, another one of our creations served on a plate like RvC was. We saved money but it'll cost us nonetheless. Scandalous stuff. Now we know what the spuds felt like when their own judas signed up for us.

If we're still scrabbling around for dross like Milner and Barry as alternatives to a proper player like Fabregas then we are done before we start. And all the indicators are pointing that way, you'd love to believe we are super secretive but what we are really witnessing is the typical lack of determined activity. It's like we go on a heroin binge every transfer window while our rivals are coked up. Plenty of cash coming in - time to see 9 figures going out or everyone concerned will be rightfully and hopefully viciously slaughtered. And not metaphorically.

Fabregas to the chavs? Congealed vomit garnished with knob cheese and menstrual sauce. Actually the latter sounds appealing by comparison.

[Niall_Quinn]

cunt

By default.

Football has become a sad business.

[Marc Overmars]

It's up there.

Always liked Cesc but I'm going to end up disliking him by default! I can't stand that cunt RVP now. Just wait until we see him celebrate there goals, a goal or assist against us or when he gets into a scuffle with one of our boys.

He's always been a spiky little ****, imagine how vomit inducing it would be seeing him do that against us. Though I have faith he'd just be a little emo and have a shit game against us anyway. I hope.

[Niall_Quinn]

He needs to be Flaminied the first time he steps out against us. Good and proper. One of those psycho lunges that can scarcely be believed and doesn't have any rational explanation - only this time it will.

Bet we see shit in the papers about welcoming him back though. Bet there will be cunts in the crowd who actually clap him.

[Injury Time]

I can't imagine the Chelsea fans will be happy with him making the comment about us having the option to buy him as it sort of confirms we were his always his first choice. :lol:

There's already some distrust (not Rafa levels) of Cesc among some Chelsea fans because of his past history with them.


I'm guessing he doesn't want Nasri/RVP levels of booing and jeering from the Arsenal fans.
Lol those fickle plastics will be cheering "we've got Cess Fabregas!" with all those dream passes to Torres, good job they haven't signed a #decent striker or we'd be fucked...oh what's that? They signed...oh...yeah...right, we're fucked and Jose will be rubbing Arsene's face in it. But hey we don't want to kill the development of...er...um...ah fuck it Wenger out before he signs his extension...oh what's that? Fuck! Well screw them I'm fucked if I'm renewing my season ticket...ah crap deadline passed, cheque cashed Arsene and the Board laughing at us again :pal:
Oh well kneejerkoff over...bring on the Community Shield, who we playing again?

[Letters]

Lots of GW users been crying like little girls on here because mean old Arsene didn't sign Fabregas?, as horrible as it is seeing him in a Chelsea shirt I have no malice he didnt go there directly from Arsenal and we didnt want him back.
I don't bear him any particular malice, seems we didn't want him and Chelsea was the only offer on the table. He wanted to come back to the PL so he took it.
For our part, there are positions we need strengthening more than midfield but it would have been a statement of intent to re-sign him, a sign we mean business and are serious about pushing on and competing for the title next year. And maybe we are and some proper marquee signings are coming but it's pretty sickening to see us standing by and letting a team we're supposed to be trying to compete with strengthen.

[Penguin]

Lots of GW users been crying like little girls on here because mean old Arsene didn't sign Fabregas?, as horrible as it is seeing him in a Chelsea shirt I have no malice he didnt go there directly from Arsenal and we didnt want him back.
Agreed.

I couldn't give a fuck about Cesc since the moment he left us, and we had no business buying him for the sake of it when the money was needed elsewhere in the squad. I won't be jumping on Wenger's back for this, though I'll change my mind if we don't invest in at least one world class forward.

[Özim]

He'll probably create 5 of the 6 goals they score next time they smash us.

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't bear him any particular malice, seems we didn't want him and Chelsea was the only offer on the table. He wanted to come back to the PL so he took it.
For our part, there are positions we need strengthening more than midfield but it would have been a statement of intent to re-sign him, a sign we mean business and are serious about pushing on and competing for the title next year. And maybe we are and some proper marquee signings are coming but it's pretty sickening to see us standing by and letting a team we're supposed to be trying to compete with strengthen.

We're getting Vela and a child from Southampton. And the Kalou, Barry and Milner deals are probably going on behind the scenes as we speak. Also Kallstrom, aren't we making that permanent? And Puma want some mad cunt here for the circus publicity, so there's that too. So it's not bleak. If only we could up our game to bleak, but we aren't close to those heady heights.

[A Gunner]

Can't blame him because we didn't want him back. A return to London was always likely to be on the cards.

I have nothing against him personally, it's just the choice disgust me.

[Power n Glory]

He's always been a spiky little ****, imagine how vomit inducing it would be seeing him do that against us. Though I have faith he'd just be a little emo and have a shit game against us anyway. I hope.

It's not the move to Chelsea that's gonna piss me off.....it's when I see him play in that blue shirt. That's when the hatred will set.

But right now, I have a serious problem with the people running our club. I want no excuses from them this summer. It even goes to the players. Ozil needs to justify that price tag and snap out of this funk.

[Injury Time]

I don't bear him any particular malice, seems we didn't want him and Chelsea was the only offer on the table. He wanted to come back to the PL so he took it.
For our part, there are positions we need strengthening more than midfield but it would have been a statement of intent to re-sign him, a sign we mean business and are serious about pushing on and competing for the title next year. And maybe we are and some proper marquee signings are coming but it's pretty sickening to see us standing by and letting a team we're supposed to be trying to compete with strengthen.
This tbh (other than the malice, his moping around until his Barca move pissed me off), it's more that whatever the history he would've given our squad some depth, but I guess that's not the Arsene way...

[Marc Overmars]

We must be preparing to spend big money because there's no other logical reason for passing on him. I get there are more pressing areas to improve on but it's not everyday we're presented with an opportunity to sign a worldie.

[Bumble]

utter shambles, i am all for balancing the books but sometimes one season isnt going to ruin Arsenal. Cesc would be first choice player, we may have alot of central midfielders but he would have improved that area. him and ozil could play together. also he experience of playing further forward at barca so would add flexibility. How are we going to finish above Chelsea next season when they have already signed Costa and Fabregas and sold Luiz for a cost of only about £10m.

if nothing happens over the summer we will be looking at those teams behind us than above us. Everton dont have the money to finish above us but United do. Spurs will be spurs so i dont worry about them.

utter shambles

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

That's exactly the problem. We don't NEED another ineffective CAM on the wing. We need some variety.
What makes you think that he is ineffective or in fact even a central midfielder? I think people might come to a different conclusion if they look at his actual skill set.


We've been doing it for years but has it ever been effective? It was at its best for the invincibles, with Pires playing on the left. But one of the main reasons for its success was that he had Henry in front of him playing a pseudo wide-left forward role and basically providing the width and pace for us. None of our other forwards since have given us that, and it has affected our ability to break down teams.

It's an ongoing problem. We tend to pass too slow and predictably against organised teams who sit deep and keep their shape. We lumber our way through the game without seriously looking like scoring until the last 15 minutes when the opponent's tire (Wenger even suggested that this is actual one of our strategies...). Of course the risk here is that we don't miraculously find a way through right at the end, or that they counter us and nick a win cause we're pushing everyone forward. Which has happened time and time again.

The pundits kind of had it right when they said we don't have a 'plan B'. But really, the top teams have a plan C and a plan D as well. We need more variety on the pitch so we can mix it up. Don't forget that having more direct players and runners in the team would get more out of the likes of Ozil and Cazorla too as it would give them something to aim at, rather than having another similar player who occupies the same spaces as them.

I'm not saying that signing a winger like Griezmann would fix all that but it would be a step in the right direction.
Are you suggesting you wouldn't take a Pires in his prime now? A lot of the failed wide left players Reyes, Gervais, Arshavin (less so) and co would have fallen short here in any position. I think you are alluding to an underlying problem and rightly so, but that problem is salient within our plan A, never mind moving on to plan B, C or D. Arsenal have changed and right now our plan A isn't good enough regularly enough. Giroud misses too many chances, isn't dynamic enough and we still don't have a really commanding holding midfielder.

If the player is good enough and has the right skill set he will make the left hand side work for himself and the team. If that guy is a dynamic player (and I mean truly dynamic) then he will even make it work on those cold wet days when we can't find a breakthrough and the opposition has dropped deep with the full backs staying put. Robben plays the role well not because he hugs the touchline in that conventional winger play way, but because he is only too willing to come in field and occupy the space that numerous 'CAM' are or would be.....and that is despite not having all the sensibilities of a central player. That is a feature of a dynamic player rather than just your typical winger.

Incidentally it is worth mentioning that if you watch Vela's compilation, you will see a number of finishing moves culminating in Griezmann playmaking from not only a deep position but a central one too. One of the main things to take from that is simply that dynamic players simply just make it work. I would suggest that his dynamism is in part responsible for the hype around him now....ate least on this board.


Lots of GW users been crying like little girls on here because mean old Arsene didn't sign Fabregas?, as horrible as it is seeing him in a Chelsea shirt I have no malice he didnt go there directly from Arsenal and we didnt want him back.
As for Diego Costa, the most overhyped Diego since Diego Tristan

There were a few on here saying Arsene would never let it happen which I was surprised to hear. How any Arsenal fan still holds that the manager can be that partisan about these affairs is a mystery to me. I questioned the allowance of RvP and Cesc to an extent (though much less so) at the time of us selling them and was resounding met with the riposte that it was 'because we HAD to'.

I'm more and more coming round to the thinking that actually.......we don't. If we do it, fine, but this veneer or coercion is increasing wearing thin over the years.

In regards to Costa.....most over hyped players haven't scored 35 goals in a top league (or whatever it is) which would seemed to suggest that at least part of that hype isn't hype at all.

The question we're faced with now shouldn't be if a line up of Giroud, Vela, Sanogo will do, it should be whether that forward line will win us the CL or Prem. If the answer is no and let's not kid ourselves....the answer is no (especially now Chelsea have got their act together) then we need to seriously rethink our targets and shopping list.

[Power n Glory]

We must be preparing to spend big money because there's no other logical reason for passing on him. I get there are more pressing areas to improve on but it's not everyday you're presented with an opportunity to sign a worldie.

Oh, it needs to go beyond Remy, Vela and another youth development gamble to justify this one.

Shat on from a great height. That kid was Arsenal! Soils the memories. What the fuck are we doing?

[Bumble]

Oh, it needs to go beyond Remy, Vela and another youth development gamble to justify this one.

Shat on from a great height. That kid was Arsenal! Soils the memories. What the fuck are we doing?
he was also a leader and had attitude and i doubt there would have been a single arsenal fan who wouldnt have jumped up and down with delight had we re-signed him.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Wow GW sparks into life (and no wonder)!

I have said that I hoped we exercised our right to get him back.....would have made our midfield stronger both starting and bench, especially our bench because, whether he sat on it or made someone else do so because he was better than him. Not happy with the Chav move, more so as it gives some ammunition to Joses wank losers dig!

Can't blame Cesc though...for whatever reason we didn't make a play and they did.....we couldn't expect Cesc to retire because we didn't buy him back. However, I hate how every transfer window we are always in the position of running the risk of getting egg all down our face.

Wenger had to....I say had to have a plan and one player is not going to be enough otherwise I am forever going to think we should have got Cesc in
(

[Munchies]

Meanwhile Wenger is in Brazil earning the £££ , so no signings can be made

[Gooner23]

Maureen just loves shitting on the Arsenal fans, and I swear Wenger loves letting it happen time and time again.

There is still plenty of the summer left, but I can not see where the world class signings are going to come from.

[Power n Glory]

Meanwhile Wenger is in Brazil earning the £££ , so no signings can be made

When I heard Cesc was having a medical with Chelsea, I thought utter bullshit. He's in Brazil preparing for the World Cup and wouldn't have time to fly to London when the comp starts today. Wenger knows best, eh!

Are we that behind on the times that we think it's not possible to do deals in this modern age? Wenger's in Brazil, all the best players are in Brazil....there agents must be there and if not, it's not as if we're depending on Morse code to communicate! Bah!

Of course it's possible to get deals done now!

[Munchies]

Flamini won't do shit, he's his 'brather'

Kosc on the other hand..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp8Piw6IAAAFzR9.jpg

Break his fucking legs Kosc.

[Munchies]

When I heard Cesc was having a medical with Chelsea, I thought utter bullshit. He's in Brazil preparing for the World Cup and wouldn't have time to fly to London when the comp starts today. Wenger knows best, eh!

Are we that behind on the times that we think it's not possible to do deals in this modern age? Wenger's in Brazil, all the best players are in Brazil....there agents must be there and if not, it's not as if we're depending on Morse code to communicate! Bah!

Of course it's possible to get deals done now!

Exactly :lol:

Cesc was in London a week ago, doing a commercial for Beats headphones, Chelsea got it sealed there and then.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp8S-ZDCQAIg0e0.jpg:large

:lol:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The problem with our side is pace, pure and simple Fabregas is ingrained in a system with two or three touch passes, we have seen first hand how that passing possession football has been nullified this season just gone. Ozil on the other hand having played for both Germany and Real Madrid has experience of thriving within a team ethic of raw pace and power.
I think Fabregas will actually struggle to fit in at Chelsea as he will want more time on the ball than Chelsea's style of play affords him

[Power n Glory]

The problem with our side is pace, pure and simple Fabregas is ingrained in a system with two or three touch passes, we have seen first hand how that passing possession football has been nullified this season just gone. Ozil on the other hand having played for both Germany and Real Madrid has experience of thriving within a team ethic of raw pace and power.
I think Fabregas will actually struggle to fit in at Chelsea as he will want more time on the ball than Chelsea's style of play affords him

Why would he need more time on the ball when he can spark a counter attack with one touch?

I've yet to see anything in Ozil's game to suggest he's a better fit for us. In fact, we're saying we need to add more to get more from him when he should be adding more to what we currently have.

[Munchies]

Sagna chooses the perfect time:


To be fair, i don't even know where to start or even how to say it... but i just wanna thank the whole Arsenal fc... a family to me , a club who taught me so much in 7years, a club where i had the chance to progress day by day, a club who always gave me his trust whenever i was personally not at my best , a club who change the kid i was to the man i am today, a club where i had the pleasure to give 200 pr cent every game. I wanna thank the whole staff working at the club, the fans for accepting me so fast, making it smoove for myself and my family, my team mates witch i consider my true friends today and i had a great pleasure learning with them. Of course i wanna thank the coach MR WENGER... who believed in me..gave me his trust..and clearly changed my life. Now, it's time for me to move on and one more time THANK YOU .

http://instagram.com/p/pJrwP9OJUm/

[Niall_Quinn]

Sagna chooses the perfect time:



http://instagram.com/p/pJrwP9OJUm/

Hope he dies in a fire.

[Munchies]

Hope he dies in a fire.

:haha:

--
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp8KHBWIIAA3wpT.jpg

and

http://i.imgur.com/D8etteJ.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp8XpcqCIAAzQoJ.jpg

[selassie]

When I heard Cesc was having a medical with Chelsea, I thought utter bullshit. He's in Brazil preparing for the World Cup and wouldn't have time to fly to London when the comp starts today. Wenger knows best, eh!

Are we that behind on the times that we think it's not possible to do deals in this modern age? Wenger's in Brazil, all the best players are in Brazil....there agents must be there and if not, it's not as if we're depending on Morse code to communicate! Bah!

Of course it's possible to get deals done now!

Prepare for more disappointment. Arsene is a compulsive gambler, an unnecessary risk taker. We all know what we need but Ill bet you he wont deliver. There is always an excuse, if it isnt the market, its that we're competing with other clubs or that there is nobody available blah blah

Nothing is going to change this summer and what makes it worse is 2 of our rivals have both picked up former players of ours on the cheap, its a disgrace.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Why would he need more time on the ball when he can spark a counter attack with one touch?

I've yet to see anything in Ozil's game to suggest he's a better fit for us. In fact, we're saying we need to add more to get more from him when he should be adding more to what we currently have.

Fabregas doesn't play one touch football, he plays two or three touch passes

And yes I am saying we should look to build a team around Ozil instead of the insipid slow shit we play at the moment because we have an ineffective striker.

[Globalgunner]

Prepare for more disappointment. Arsene is a compulsive gambler, an unnecessary risk taker. We all know what we need but Ill bet you he wont deliver. There is always an excuse, if it isnt the market, its that we're competing with other clubs or that there is nobody available blah blah

Nothing is going to change this summer and what makes it worse is 2 of our rivals have both picked up former players of ours on the cheap, its a disgrace.

Hes only ever aiming for 4th place, so all we really need is for one of Pool, United or Chelsea to fk up somewhere along the way. Like we've said a hundred times before. Whenever people are clamouring for Wenger to sign a player. That's just what he wont do.

[Niall_Quinn]

Chavs, gypos, scousers and even Moyesed Utd (bidding for Cavani). Not only are we absent from the races, but our competitors are robbing our house to add insult. World Cup starts tonight, window effectively shuts until it's over. For us anyway. Or more accurately, stays shut. That might be a great relief for some at the club but it looks like the fans will have to suffer winging it at the tail end of the action again. I sense nightmares where we're in the closing hours begging for the Kalou deal to be confirmed just so we end up signing somebody other than Bendtner on a loan deal.

This Morata on loan shit - we wouldn't seriously consider that I hope. Become a bitch training club for Marketing? Again? No thanks.

[Power n Glory]

Fabregas doesn't play one touch football, he plays two or three touch passes

And yes I am saying we should look to build a team around Ozil instead of the insipid slow shit we play at the moment because we have an ineffective striker.

We'll disagree on Fabregas. He doesn't need several touches on the ball to make something happen.

As for Ozil, he needs to prove he's the type of player worth building around. As said before, he's the one that should be adding to other team members game, not the other way around. He should be imposing himself on the squad, demanding the ball and taking control. Not hiding.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Chavs, gypos, scousers and even Moyesed Utd (bidding for Cavani). Not only are we absent from the races, but our competitors are robbing our house to add insult. World Cup starts tonight, window effectively shuts until it's over. For us anyway. Or more accurately, stays shut. That might be a great relief for some at the club but it looks like the fans will have to suffer winging it at the tail end of the action again. I sense nightmares where we're in the closing hours begging for the Kalou deal to be confirmed just so we end up signing somebody other than Bendtner on a loan deal.

This Morata on loan shit - we wouldn't seriously consider that I hope. Become a bitch training club for Marketing? Again? No thanks.

The one player who i will be annoyed if he signs for another club and it turns out we didn't go in for him will be Alexis Sanchez, i am hearing that he is in talks with Juvetus and i think he is one striker out there who would give us what we need up front.

[Power n Glory]

Prepare for more disappointment. Arsene is a compulsive gambler, an unnecessary risk taker. We all know what we need but Ill bet you he wont deliver. There is always an excuse, if it isnt the market, its that we're competing with other clubs or that there is nobody available blah blah

Nothing is going to change this summer and what makes it worse is 2 of our rivals have both picked up former players of ours on the cheap, its a disgrace.

Judging from the last transfer window, I have no idea what to expect. Ivan has said we're working on some good deals but I have no idea what we're bringing in. A striker like Cavani or Falcao would be great but won't have because they're not the right age for Wenger at that price. I hope we don't bring Mandzukic. Too similar in attributes to what we have in Giroud but Wenger won't care if the price is right. Balotelli has the attributes but I don't know if we'll take that sort of risk and he won't come cheap. Remy.....he's just not elite.

[Munchies]

Lol at Cesc's sendoff at the Barca site:


Cesc Fàbregas: three years in numbers
WWW.FCBARCELONA.CAT 06/12/2014 16:55
The midfielder is leaving FC Barcelona after scoring 42 goals in 151 matches. There has been a downward trend in his stats every season at the club
Cesc Fàbregas is leaving FC Barcelona, three years after re-joining the club from Arsenal. His return of 42 goals in 151 appearances is an impressive tally for a midfielder, mainly because he has also been played frequently in the ‘false centre forward’ role that is so popular at Barça. He has won 106 games, drawn 29 and lost 16.

Cesc left Barça for the Gunners when he was just 16, and stayed in London for eight successful seasons (2003-2011). He became one of Arsenal’s most iconic players, but there was much hope among Barça fans that he’d return home one day, as he did on August 15, 2011. In all his time with Arsenal, he had only won one FA Cup and one Community Shield, yet on returning to his native Catalonia, he won two further titles in his first two games . the Spanish and European Supercups, and scored three goals in his first four appearances. Guardiola had been right to bring Cesc back home. He slipped right back into the FCB system as if he’d never been away.


But despite glowing starts to each campaign, Cesc’s contributions to the cause gradually decreased as each season drew to a close. From being someone who joined in with the attack, supplying and scoring goals, the magic tended to fade later on in each season. He only scored one, six and one goals in the last 24 games of each season. For some reason, he was never as good in the second half of a season as in the first.


But Cesc was always a favourite choice of the managers. He played 48 games under Josep Guardiola and the same number under Tito Vilanova, while Gerardo Martino used him in 55 games, making him the third most used player of Barça 2014/15, topped only by Sergio Busquets and Javier Mascherano.

He is leaving with memories of a hat-trick against Mallorca and six braces, including the 5,500th league goal in Barça history, and six medals from one Liga, one Spanish Cup, one Clubs World Cup, one European Supercup and two Spanish Supercups.
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/cesc-fabregas-three-years-in-numbers

[Niall_Quinn]

The one player who i will be annoyed if he signs for another club and it turns out we didn't go in for him will be Alexis Sanchez, i am hearing that he is in talks with Juvetus and i think he is one striker out there who would give us what we need up front.

He's today's top target for Utd, according to the press. So maybe if the day passes without him signing for the mancs, you never know, we might just not even make a bid and sign Gareth Barry instead. Would that do you? Or maybe the Barry thing will be a smokescreen for signing nobody? I think people don't realise our smokescreens are not designed to hide or genuine transfer dealings but rather to obscure the chequebook. They'd use tear gas but the cops told them no.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Mourinho must surely win something with the squad Chelsea are putting together.

For the amount spent especially, it'll be an unqualified failure if they don't. Again.

And that is a disgusting thing to say :sick:


As an aside, how much tracking back and defending does modern-Cesc do? Because he better get used to it next season.

[Master Splinter]

Wailing and weeping about about potentially not enhancing our team and squad is understandable. Doing it over Fabregas just because he's signed for Chelsea is pathetic. We can't stockpile £30m/£200k-a-week players no matter how rich we are.

He cried and sleazed his way back to his supposed spiritual home in search of easy glory and has been turfed out unceremoniously by his fellow DNA-sharers. No other big club wanted him so he's thrown out all pretence of boyhood dreams and paternal bonds and dived straight into a pool of cash and into the arms of a detestable creature who's philosophy he has always spoken out against. The creature who openly insults his 'second father' Wenger, attacked his late, cancer-suffering ex-coach and is the complete enemy of football. Shows Cisc's character. Or complete lack of it.

More pertinently, won't he go the same way as Mata and latterly Oscar when he's not doing the same running and spoiling and bus-parking job as all Mourinho's athlete-ball former footballers?

[Power n Glory]

Wailing and weeping about about potentially not enhancing our team and squad is understandable. Doing it over Fabregas just because he's signed for Chelsea is pathetic. We can't stockpile £30m/£200k-a-week players no matter how rich we are.

He cried and sleazed his way back to his supposed spiritual home in search of easy glory and has been turfed out unceremoniously by his fellow DNA-sharers. No other big club wanted him so he's thrown out all pretence of boyhood dreams and paternal bonds and dived straight into a pool of cash and into the arms of a detestable creature who's philosophy he has always spoken out against. The creature who openly insults his 'second father' Wenger, attacked his late, cancer-suffering ex-coach and is the complete enemy of football. Shows Cisc's character. Or complete lack of it.

More pertinently, won't he go the same way as Mata and latterly Oscar when he's not doing the same running and spoiling and bus-parking job as all Mourinho's athlete-ball former footballers?

We didn't want him. Wenger didn't want him. The second father figure talk goes out the window with that sort of rejection.

[Master Splinter]

We didn't want him. Wenger didn't want him. The second father figure talk goes out the window with that sort of rejection.

You don't go from your second father straight into the bosom of the evil uncle who abused you savagely and repeatedly though.

[Niall_Quinn]

We didn't want him. Wenger didn't want him. The second father figure talk goes out the window with that sort of rejection.

No way! There's no way you can be sowing the ground for an apology on behalf of Fabrecash!

[Power n Glory]

You don't go from your second father straight into the bosom of the evil uncle who abused you savagely and repeatedly though.

Did Jose and Cesc have a bad relationship off the the pitch?

[Niall_Quinn]

Wailing and weeping about about potentially not enhancing our team and squad is understandable. Doing it over Fabregas just because he's signed for Chelsea is pathetic. We can't stockpile £30m/£200k-a-week players no matter how rich we are.

He cried and sleazed his way back to his supposed spiritual home in search of easy glory and has been turfed out unceremoniously by his fellow DNA-sharers. No other big club wanted him so he's thrown out all pretence of boyhood dreams and paternal bonds and dived straight into a pool of cash and into the arms of a detestable creature who's philosophy he has always spoken out against. The creature who openly insults his 'second father' Wenger, attacked his late, cancer-suffering ex-coach and is the complete enemy of football. Shows Cisc's character. Or complete lack of it.

More pertinently, won't he go the same way as Mata and latterly Oscar when he's not doing the same running and spoiling and bus-parking job as all Mourinho's athlete-ball former footballers?

That's the part that so sickening. The spiritual home shit. Loads of fans said yeah, good luck to him, I understand why he's jumping ship like the other stinking vermin leaving. Now there's a new apology- we didn't bid so it's fair game he goes to our hated rival, good luck to him, I understand why he fucked us hard in the arse when the cash was waved reluctantly agreed to his second and final option. What they don't know is he sneaked into their wife's room last night and jacked all over her face. But you know, fair play, good luck to him, he's a professional wanker, saw his chance and took it. Can't blame him.