View Full Version : Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit
Niall_Quinn
01-02-2014, 12:12 AM
/thread
JonasTC
01-02-2014, 12:19 AM
Only Messi will be good enough :censored:
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
01-02-2014, 12:21 AM
Draxler's coming home :bow:
Niall_Quinn
01-02-2014, 12:22 AM
:tumbleweed:
Munchies
01-02-2014, 12:38 AM
''They've had 90 days to buy players, and all that hard work it took to get 4th, they could blow it.
I've hadda fuckin nuff, either the board or Wenger should gettout
I expect YOU Wenger and YOU Gazidis to hand your resignation in."
:lol:
The Emirates Gallactico
01-02-2014, 12:51 AM
Lars Bender and Julian Draxler please Arsene.
Fuck it Arsene, just buy the entire German national team.
Munchies
01-02-2014, 12:52 AM
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if we get a repeat of that again with Wenger in charge.
Lars Bender and Julian Draxler please Arsene.
Fuck it Arsene, just buy the entire German national team.
We didn't get Draxler now, chances of getting him when Bayern/Chelsea/Citeh can pay his release clause and offer him a ton of wages ?
The Emirates Gallactico
01-02-2014, 12:58 AM
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We didn't get Draxler now, chances of getting him when Bayern/Chelsea/Citeh can pay his release clause and offer him a ton of wages ?
We won't be able to compete with Bayern if they do go after him but they're pretty stocked in that department so I doubt they'd shell out the dosh for him.
And personally I don't think he's the type of guy who'd go to Chelsea or Citeh - he'll know he'll just end up rotting on the bench there like all the other talented youngsters there. Plus our German contingent should be a factor in play here, he'd feel much more at home here.
Still think we're his first choice destination but Wenger needs to just loosen the purse strings and pay to get his man or boy in this case.
JonasTC
01-02-2014, 01:09 AM
Agree, i think we're Draxlers first choice, when you take everything into consideration.
The problem is, he has a contract till 2018 and therefor Schalke dont give a fuck and i think Draxler is comfortable in Schalke right now, BUT it doesnt seem that Schalke will make it to the CHL next year and therefor i think Draxler will hand in a transfer request when we go after him again and then they're forced to sell if we come in with a fair bid and not the kind of silly money offer they want right now.
Ralpheroo72
01-02-2014, 02:03 AM
Time for Thomas Brolin to come home
Bergkampwonderland10
01-02-2014, 09:16 AM
Time for Thomas Brolin to come home This! Wasn't Kallstrom in the same world cup team as him?
Niall_Quinn
03-02-2014, 01:12 PM
So here we are, the summer transfer speculation is underway:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2550853/EXCLUSIVE-Premier-League-giants-red-alert-Kroos-dropped-deal-breakdown.html
Keep the current squad together (sign up Sagna on a new deal) and throw all the money on a top striker. The whole budget. It'll take stupid fees (well above what we paid for Ozil) to attract the very best.
Niall_Quinn
03-02-2014, 01:29 PM
Keep the current squad together (sign up Sagna on a new deal) and throw all the money on a top striker. The whole budget. It'll take stupid fees (well above what we paid for Ozil) to attract the very best.
Andy Carroll?
So here we are, the summer transfer speculation is underway:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2550853/EXCLUSIVE-Premier-League-giants-red-alert-Kroos-dropped-deal-breakdown.html
I'm bored already, summer will be another painful transfer window as is the norm, where we chase certain players for months, complain about inflated prices and leave everything until the 31st August.
Andy Carroll?
The new drogba won't be cheap.
Agree, i think we're Draxlers first choice, when you take everything into consideration.
The problem is, he has a contract till 2018 and therefor Schalke dont give a fuck and i think Draxler is comfortable in Schalke right now, BUT it doesnt seem that Schalke will make it to the CHL next year and therefor i think Draxler will hand in a transfer request when we go after him again and then they're forced to sell if we come in with a fair bid and not the kind of silly money offer they want right now.
I doubt very much we're first choice, players 1st choices tend to be clubs like Real, Barca and Bayern. If none of the big clubs are interested we're 1st choice, but if they are we're not.
Letters
03-02-2014, 01:40 PM
I doubt very much we're first choice, players 1st choices tend to be clubs like Real, Barca and Bayern. If none of the big clubs are interested we're 1st choice, but if they are we're not.
Players' first choices are usually whoever will throw enough money in their direction, otherwise City wouldn't have been able to do what they've done.
Players' first choices are usually whoever will throw enough money in their direction, otherwise City wouldn't have been able to do what they've done.
To some extent, however players will still choose Barca, Real or Bayern over those clubs (they'll still get plenty of money), as those clubs are really seen as the prestige clubs these days (Barca and Real in particular).
If Barca or Real are interested in a player, City don't usually get him.
Niall_Quinn
03-02-2014, 01:58 PM
Prestige clubs? Maybe 20 years ago. Yes, they are the clubs that grab the lion's share of the media attention. And they win stuff, having spent a billion quid assembling their squads. Not sure what that has to do with prestige though. Unless you are talking about them living on past glories where they actually competed on a level pitch. Bit like a "prestigious" corporation such as Walmart, built from humble beginnings and therefore laudable until the point it started using money not to improve the customer experience but to bankrupt the competition and lock the customer into a single choice. In reality it's the corruption of prestige surely? Or you could say, well that's just the way football is going. In which case there's only room for a handful of clubs, the rest can go bust as a natural consequence of progress. I'm sure that's what the fans want and if not, it's certainly what the hype merchants crave. Football eating itself and everyone is cheering.
But yes, Draxler will go to the club that pays him the most. Unless he's a rare individual with a love for the real challenge and a respect for the game. He'll have agents that ensure he doesn't fall into that sort of idealism though.
Barca and Real have a rich history, which includes some of the greatest players playing there, are known for their flamboyant football and are seen as the biggest clubs in the world right now, they are the prestige clubs today.
Niall_Quinn
03-02-2014, 02:01 PM
Barca and Real have a rich history and are seen as the biggest clubs in the world right now, they are the prestige clubs today.
Yep, just explained that to you.
KSE Comedy Club
03-02-2014, 02:01 PM
Wenger will be too busy securing a lucrative deal with some tv station to commentate on the World Cup.
After that everything will be too expensive until 31st of August. Don't forget to respect the waiting period after the expensive period.
Anyway, we're looking at this all wrong.
Syn was right - keep the team together, no exits this summer please.
Then we need to start scouring the injury list for suitable players in positions we don't need, to add to the bench....
JonasTC
03-02-2014, 03:17 PM
To some extent, however players will still choose Barca, Real or Bayern over those clubs (they'll still get plenty of money), as those clubs are really seen as the prestige clubs these days (Barca and Real in particular).
If Barca or Real are interested in a player, City don't usually get him.
Tell me again, why are you an Arsenal fan then? :)
Ollie the Optimist
03-02-2014, 06:25 PM
I doubt very much we're first choice, players 1st choices tend to be clubs like Real, Barca and Bayern. If none of the big clubs are interested we're 1st choice, but if they are we're not.
is this like the time when Ozil left Madrid to join us and rejected PSG and united?
Globalgunner
03-02-2014, 06:42 PM
is this like the time when Ozil left Madrid to join us and rejected PSG and united?
PSG are a mad house, anyone can see that, they are a team that would gladly spunk 500m to buy both Messi AND Ronaldo, if possible, and pay them both a million a week. So you must be insane to even think about it
Man United of course are no longer attractive, due to an obvious handicap.
Ozil to Arsenal was serendipitous. I don't even think Wenger targeted him at the start of the window.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
03-02-2014, 07:56 PM
Depending on what you believe....Manure turned Ozil down, else he could have easily been playing for them.
Niall_Quinn
03-02-2014, 07:57 PM
Depending on what you believer....Manure turned Ozil down, else he could have easily been playing for them.
Wenger asked Ozil for his signature, Moyes asked him for his autograph.
Ollie the Optimist
03-02-2014, 08:00 PM
Depending on what you believe....Manure turned Ozil down, else he could have easily been playing for them.
yeah Moyes turned down Ozil then in the next window signs a playmaker. yeah he really turned down Ozil
Globalgunner
03-02-2014, 08:57 PM
yeah Moyes turned down Ozil then in the next window signs a playmaker. yeah he really turned down Ozil
Moyes is so stupid, yes he really could have done that. He bought Fellaini with no idea what to do with him . Then buys Mata and still doesn't know what to do with him, Same with Kagawa. He is as clueless as Mr Bean
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
04-02-2014, 02:09 AM
yeah Moyes turned down Ozil then in the next window signs a playmaker. yeah he really turned down Ozil
Manure seem to have been quite open with offering this info up and there has been no denial from Real/Ozil/or anyone else otherwise about it..... so I would think it is certainly not inconceivable.
Manure hadn't had the time to kick up the stink they have now last summer, so I am not sure why you are so certain they didn't turn him down.
Niall_Quinn
04-02-2014, 02:33 AM
Well if this actually happened, and I suspect it's bullshit, it just shows what a lousy manager Moyes really is.
I am invisible
04-02-2014, 06:47 AM
The rumour at the time was that they backed out when they heard what we were offering? Basically, we financially outmuscled them, if you believe that?!
AFC Leveller
04-02-2014, 08:01 AM
Yeah they turned down Ozil, the best number 10 in the world, to sign a toilet brush for 28m then another 38 m on a playmaker.
Moyes!
Munchies
04-02-2014, 12:14 PM
Arsenal sponsors Puma ‘will help Gunners fund Mario Balotelli transfer
http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/04/arsenal-sponsors-puma-will-help-gunners-fund-mario-balotelli-transfer-4290068/
Arsenal’s brand new kit sponsors will reportedly help the club fund a big money deal to sign Mario Balotelli at the end of the season.
The Gunners, who announced a partnership with sportswear giants Puma last month, are said to be keen on signing AC Milan striker Balotelli in the summer.
But amid talk that his giant price has put Arsene Wenger off making a bid, Puma are believed to have stepped in to offer an alternative.
According to reports in Italy, the company wants to help Arsenal finance a deal to bring the former Manchester City striker to the Emirates Stadium.
Puma, who also sponsor Balotelli, want two of their key brands together, and could even stump up as much as £15million of any deal to make the transfer happen.
The 23-year-old has been in stunning form since moving to Milan from City, scoring 25 goals in just 38 matches.
Balotelli is rated at about £40million by Milan.
£40m ? :haha:
Marc Overmars
04-02-2014, 12:40 PM
Puma. :bow:
milla
04-02-2014, 12:42 PM
Arsenal sponsors Puma ‘will help Gunners fund Mario Balotelli transfer
http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/04/arsenal-sponsors-puma-will-help-gunners-fund-mario-balotelli-transfer-4290068/
£40m ? :haha:
I'll take Balotelli, brilliant striker. He will resolve a lot of problem up front :coffee:
JonasTC
04-02-2014, 12:52 PM
Wouldnt mind that happening, his childish behavour will fade away with him maturing, no doubt he will be a top striker.
I can already see Puma doing some kind of video, with Henry stepping down and then Balotelli stepping up in a new Arsenal shirt, like he's the new Henry or smth ##
Munchies
04-02-2014, 01:02 PM
Can't they help us get Reus instead ? ##
Niall_Quinn
04-02-2014, 01:08 PM
Arsenal sponsors Puma ‘will help Gunners fund Mario Balotelli transfer
http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/04/arsenal-sponsors-puma-will-help-gunners-fund-mario-balotelli-transfer-4290068/
£40m ? :haha:
Complete made-up bullshit I suspect. Unless Puma have people leaking information all over the place how would the media ever know about this? These so-called journalists are a sad joke.
Master Splinter
04-02-2014, 01:11 PM
These so-called journalists are a sad joke.
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/james-sanderson.jpg?w=100&h=100&crop=1
no u
Munchies
04-02-2014, 01:11 PM
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/james-sanderson.jpg?w=100&h=100&crop=1
no u
:haha:
milla
04-02-2014, 01:39 PM
:haha:
Niall_Quinn
04-02-2014, 01:47 PM
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/james-sanderson.jpg?w=100&h=100&crop=1
no u
That's such an old picture, I don't wear black tops any more.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/transfer-news-arsene-wenger-keen-on-bringing-back-ashley-cole-to-arsenal--reports-9109192.html
:lol:
Heisenberg
05-02-2014, 07:43 PM
Cannot believe that, not an area we're weak in, acrimonious departure, more likely to seek the gravy train elsewhere.
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/james-sanderson.jpg?w=100&h=100&crop=1
no u
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd262/joe1black/goonies_sloth.jpg
The Emirates Gallactico
06-02-2014, 04:02 PM
Cavani's agents are in London apparently for talks about a move.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2553048/United-Chelsea-target-Edinson-Cavani-weighs-Premier-League-strikers-agents-hold-talks-London.html
Mr. Lahey
06-02-2014, 09:23 PM
Cannot believe that, not an area we're weak in, acrimonious departure, more likely to seek the gravy train elsewhere.
Im surprised you weren't advised that the gravy train was here in my hometown of Toronto.
http://laurenoutloud.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/gravy.jpg
Munchies
08-02-2014, 09:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBv-nFecFBU&sns=tw
?
Rather not sign him tbf, only because of everything else that comes with him, but looks like he's on his way out if AC don't get CL
Munchies
10-02-2014, 09:21 AM
Fabianski confirms impending Arsenal exit
“I want to be number one in the club and in the Polish national team. I have learned a lot at London during very positive and challenging periods.
“With biggest respect to this great club, I didn’t accept the extension offer as I am looking forward to a new challenge in England or abroad.”
Only 28 so can still make a good run wherever he goes. All the best, he's never moaned about being on the bench to be fair to him.
:wave:
--
Sagna rejects a new deal:
Sagna is upset that Arsene Wenger and Arsenal did not approach him sooner about a new deal, leaving talks until his final year at the club - in sharp contrast to their approach to other stars.
Wenger has changed his rule for Sagna having previous only offered a one-year contract to his over 30s.
The deal on the table for Sagna - who is 31 on Friday - is two years, but still at his current salary of £60,000 a week.
But Sagna feels he deserves much more, especially as he has not had a single pay rise since signing an improved deal in the summer of 2008.
:doh:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/364723/EXCLUSIVE-Arsenal-s-week-from-hell-gets-worse-as-Sagna-and-Fabianski-reject-new-deals
KSE Comedy Club
10-02-2014, 10:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBv-nFecFBU&sns=tw
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Rather not sign him tbf, only because of everything else that comes with him, but looks like he's on his way out if AC don't get CL
He wasn't crying because he was taken off it was because he was getting racist abuse from the Napoli fans.
Which was also why he was probably taken off.
They're just complete racist fucks over there.
Marc Overmars
10-02-2014, 10:48 AM
I do hope we get Sagan tied down, he's still got a lot to offer.
Power n Glory
10-02-2014, 11:15 AM
It's looking very unlikely that we'll sort out Sagna's contract and that should set alarm bells ringing. The negotiation team still have a knack for rubbing the players the wrong way and making them consider their options. It's another reason why it's been hard to retain players and that trend will continue if we don't get this part right.
saintnickle
10-02-2014, 11:16 AM
He wasn't crying because he was taken off it was because he was getting racist abuse from the Napoli fans.
Which was also why he was probably taken off.
They're just complete racist fucks over there.
He wants to grow a pair and stop being so mard..
Munchies
10-02-2014, 12:02 PM
It's looking very unlikely that we'll sort out Sagna's contract and that should set alarm bells ringing. The negotiation team still have a knack for rubbing the players the wrong way and making them consider their options. It's another reason why it's been hard to retain players and that trend will continue if we don't get this part right.
This is the bloody thing which is pissing me the fuck off.
You got Diaby, a crock of shit who hasn't played in ages, earning tons doing fuck all.
He should be put down, and his wages should be put towards Sagna's new deal. It's a joke. Sagna's been by far one of our most consistent players this season, and still has a lot to offer. He deserves an increase really, it's a joke.
Even then, the new puma money coming in, surely we can offer Sagan another £30k-£40k ?
Niall_Quinn
10-02-2014, 12:34 PM
Guys, it's all well and good but if we're going to sign 30 year olds on longer contracts then remember to refrain from calling them shit or asking why we have this crock at all once they put in a few bad games. Fullbacks are expected to get up and down the pitch relentlessly in the English game (unless they play for Fulham). Sagna on a longer and more expensive deal looks good right now while the defence is raped by Liverpool settled, but if we're going to spend some of those millions and billions come the summer Sagna may well become a backup anyway. There's more to it than just the contract.
selassie
10-02-2014, 12:50 PM
Looks like Sagna is off then. So that's 1 first team position we potentially need to fill, past history suggests we will either promote from within or convert someone from within the squad to play there. I wouldn't put it past us to have Flamini starting there next season.
Looks like Sagna is off then. So that's 1 first team position we potentially need to fill, past history suggests we will either promote from within or convert someone from within the squad to play there. I wouldn't put it past us to have Flamini starting there next season.
Hard to disagree. I can't see us ever signing another good player again tbh.
selassie
10-02-2014, 01:01 PM
Hard to disagree. I don't think we'll ever sign another good player again tbh.
I reckon we will sign a good player again, it's just whether it will be in a position needed. Wenger will sign another Attacking Midfielder in the summer, we can be sure of that, he does it pretty much every summer. ;)
Power n Glory
10-02-2014, 01:06 PM
Guys, it's all well and good but if we're going to sign 30 year olds on longer contracts then remember to refrain from calling them shit or asking why we have this crock at all once they put in a few bad games. Fullbacks are expected to get up and down the pitch relentlessly in the English game (unless they play for Fulham). Sagna on a longer and more expensive deal looks good right now while the defence is raped by Liverpool settled, but if we're going to spend some of those millions and billions come the summer Sagna may well become a backup anyway. There's more to it than just the contract.
Yes, just like RVP! Sound reasoning.
It all makes sense but my confidence in the scouts/negotiating team and Wenger are pretty low. After the two windows we've just been through, it shouldn't be hard to understand why. It's an area that needs a shake up.
Munchies
10-02-2014, 01:08 PM
Luis Gustavo has a release clause in his contract after the world cup . Slightly old article from a few months back:
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/445706/Arsenal-on-alert-as-Luiz-Gustavo-release-clause-at-Wolfsburg-revealed
We didn't sign him when he was available though, so I don't think we'll sign him now if he has a good world cup.
Power n Glory
10-02-2014, 01:18 PM
Luis Gustavo has a release clause in his contract after the world cup . Slightly old article from a few months back:
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/445706/Arsenal-on-alert-as-Luiz-Gustavo-release-clause-at-Wolfsburg-revealed
We didn't sign him when he was available though, so I don't think we'll sign him now if he has a good world cup.
You'll hear people say this guy isn't good enough but at the same time applaud the signing of Kallstrom. It's madness.
Xhaka Can’t
10-02-2014, 01:39 PM
I don't hear people saying that.
I don't hear people saying that.
You have no ears.
Power n Glory
10-02-2014, 01:56 PM
I don't hear people saying that.
You know how it goes around here. If we miss out on a player he was never good enough in the first place but whoever we sign, it's a good call. I've seen a guy completely dismiss the possibility of signing Berbatov but then go on to applaud the Kallstrom deal. Utter madness.
Munchies
10-02-2014, 02:07 PM
You know how it goes around here. If we miss out on a player he was never good enough in the first place but whoever we sign, it's a good call. I've seen a guy completely dismiss the possibility of signing Berbatov but then go on to applaud the Kallstrom deal. Utter madness.
JonasTC :lol:
Munchies
10-02-2014, 02:26 PM
@tancredipalmeri
https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri
AN UNBELIEVABLE NEWS FOR ARSENAL FANS! I had to promise embargo until friday. IT IS HUGE!
Draxler ? Balotelli ? He's an italian journalist with a big following.
Letters
10-02-2014, 02:45 PM
You have no ears.
His dog has no nose.
Niall_Quinn
10-02-2014, 02:51 PM
@tancredipalmeri
https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri
AN UNBELIEVABLE NEWS FOR ARSENAL FANS! I had to promise embargo until friday. IT IS HUGE!
Draxler ? Balotelli ? He's an italian journalist with a big following.
Kalou!!!!! Fucking finally!
Marc Overmars
10-02-2014, 02:56 PM
You know how it goes around here. If we miss out on a player he was never good enough in the first place but whoever we sign, it's a good call. I've seen a guy completely dismiss the possibility of signing Berbatov but then go on to applaud the Kallstrom deal. Utter madness.
Exactly right.
Globalgunner
10-02-2014, 06:06 PM
I've always thought that maybe Wenger is actually on this forum masquerading as a poster and defending the indefensible. JonasTC, get your finger out and spend some fucking Money!
fakeyank
10-02-2014, 06:18 PM
@tancredipalmeri
https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri
AN UNBELIEVABLE NEWS FOR ARSENAL FANS! I had to promise embargo until friday. IT IS HUGE!
Draxler ? Balotelli ? He's an italian journalist with a big following.
Who the fuck is embargo? :lol:
McNamara That Ghost...
10-02-2014, 06:37 PM
:unsure:
Anyway, new contract for Bendtner I reckon. :bow:
His dog has no nose.
How does he pick up scent?
Xhaka Can’t
10-02-2014, 07:11 PM
@tancredipalmeri
https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri
AN UNBELIEVABLE NEWS FOR ARSENAL FANS! I had to promise embargo until friday. IT IS HUGE!
Draxler ? Balotelli ? He's an italian journalist with a big following.
Is it the price of next season's pies?
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10-02-2014, 07:31 PM
Tancredi's a cunt.
Letters
10-02-2014, 11:01 PM
How does he pick up scent?
Terrible!
:rimshot:
:unsure:
Xhaka Can’t
10-02-2014, 11:18 PM
Who the fuck is embargo? :lol:
They drink it in the jungle.
Xhaka Can’t
10-02-2014, 11:32 PM
That's Um Bongo!
Geez.....Some people's kids.
That's Um Bongo!
That's racist.
Niall_Quinn
11-02-2014, 12:06 AM
http://youtu.be/wYj5o4kQsXs
AFC Leveller
11-02-2014, 08:26 AM
I dont know if anybody has mentioned him but Alexis Sanchez would be the perfect striker for us. According to Ballague, Barcelona are looking to offload him in the summer and we'd be foolish not to consider him. Scores some wonderfull goals, makes really good runs and although he can play wide, his favourite position is through the middle. He isnt the biggest but he's very strong and can hold off people, he's also more than decent in the air.
35m should do it.
Master Splinter
11-02-2014, 08:47 AM
He's having a good season for Barcelona. Why would they sell him?
JonasTC
11-02-2014, 08:50 AM
I would love to have Sanchez here, but in our system he would be best on the right wing. He can play through the middle, but he prefers to play behind a striker, if its through the middle. Bring in Sanchez and put Walcott up top, if he's not dead. Then Özil would have something to work with :d
AFC Leveller
11-02-2014, 01:33 PM
He's having a good season for Barcelona. Why would they sell him?
Its more of him not being happy and wanting to play more than anything else. Him and tello are both rumored to be available.
JonasTC
11-02-2014, 04:31 PM
He's having a good season for Barcelona. Why would they sell him?
So did Özil, you never know what can happend :)
fakeyank
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
Its more of him not being happy and wanting to play more than anything else. Him and tello are both rumored to be available.
Cesc, it is then
Munchies
11-02-2014, 05:43 PM
Cesc, it is then
I'd rather have Cesc than Ozil tbf, well at least now that is.
fakeyank
11-02-2014, 06:05 PM
I'd rather have Cesc than Ozil tbf, well at least now that is.
Straight swap tbf..
Power n Glory
11-02-2014, 06:08 PM
I was hoping he'd come back this summer. His passing range is incredible.
Munchies
11-02-2014, 06:15 PM
I was hoping he'd come back this summer. His passing range is incredible.
I actually thought it'd happen too, that Wayne Gooney troll said it was certain and I fell for it :getcoat:
He's getting games at Barca though, so doubt it anytime soon.
Power n Glory
11-02-2014, 06:19 PM
Wrong time for him to move. He'll get games under this manager. The kid had heart and was a big game player. Would always try to come up with the goods. He'd improve our team dramatically.
Marc Overmars
11-02-2014, 06:37 PM
I like Cisc but he wasn't a big game player. We were equally as powderpuff with him at the fulcrum of things as we are now.
Power n Glory
11-02-2014, 06:53 PM
I like Cisc but he wasn't a big game player. We were equally as powderpuff with him at the fulcrum of things as we are now.
Not at all. When we went to Old Trafford he was instrumental in taking Man Utd apart. Helped us get to the Champs League final at a very young age and we can't forget that AC Milan game at the San Siro. He had bad games but he more stand out perfomances over bad. If we could have combined the defensive discipline and maturity from this current team to the attacking power of Cesc's era, we'd be flying.
Niall_Quinn
11-02-2014, 08:10 PM
FFS, now it's Cesc in, Ozil out. We're worse than the media.
I'd rather have Cesc than Ozil tbf, well at least now that is.
Jesus...
Master Splinter
11-02-2014, 08:41 PM
Munchies is Charlie on acid in regards to his emotions. He's hot then he's cold, he's yes then he's no, he's in in then he's out, up and then down and he's got pace.
Jesus...
We can't have Jesus, not unless we can have a 2nd Easter.
Letters
11-02-2014, 08:57 PM
FFS, now it's Cesc in, Ozil out. We're worse than the media.
"WE'RE WORSE THAN THE MEDIA, BLASTS NIALL_QUINN"
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
11-02-2014, 08:58 PM
Cesc would be the perfect replacement for that snail Arteta.
Master Splinter
11-02-2014, 09:01 PM
Falcao would be the perfect replacement for Szczesny.
I can't believe it's not butter would be the perfect replacement for butter.
Özil's Panoramic View
11-02-2014, 10:11 PM
Cesc would be the perfect replacement for that snail Arteta.
:gp:
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
11-02-2014, 10:16 PM
I think Cesc's a better player personally but it doesn't mean I'm not happy to have Ozil.
Cesc?
Better than Ozil?
Francesc Fabregas?
Better than Mesut Ozil?
Niall_Quinn
11-02-2014, 10:21 PM
Cesc?
Better than Ozil?
Francesc Fabregas?
Better than Mesut Ozil?
He plays on greener grass.
He plays on greener grass.
He's playing on something.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
11-02-2014, 10:24 PM
That's my view yes.
Master Splinter
11-02-2014, 10:24 PM
Cisc would be a decent striking option in the summer.
Niall_Quinn
11-02-2014, 10:25 PM
Ozil has a lot of potential but he has yet to prove it on the big stage.
Power n Glory
11-02-2014, 11:03 PM
You guys are acting like Cesc isn't world class. :lol:
We're still waiting to see the best of Ozil but we know what Cesc is capable of. Besides the assists and his overall influence on our playing style, he's added goals to his game. I also like the fact that he can play the deep laying playmaker or push up and play close to the striker if needed.
Ozil will have to up his work rate, add goals to his game and really stomp his authority on a match to compare. So far, Ramsey has been the main man for the midfield. Ozil has come from Real Madrid! Cesc had to learn and lead the hard way playing with a very young squad and taking on a lot. In time, Ozil will get there. Or I hope he does. But coming from Real Madrid, I guess he had a much easier role and could depend on other players to save the day. We don't have that sort of luxury here.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
11-02-2014, 11:09 PM
Cesc is world class.
Next to Flamini, a proper DM, he'd be superb. Flamini doing the dirty work and Cesc controlling the midfield, either of which Arteta doesn't do.
Yes please.
Munchies
11-02-2014, 11:13 PM
Cesc is world class.
Next to Flamini, a proper DM, he'd be superb. Flamini doing the dirty work and Cesc controlling the midfield, either of which Arteta doesn't do.
Yes please.
Flamini / Cesc / Rosicky / Hleb in one team.
Brathers :bow:
So close to winning the title with that team, 4 pts off :(
Yeah, they bottled it.
It's a much better unit now.
Power n Glory
11-02-2014, 11:27 PM
Rosicky, Sagna, Walcott and Chesney were also part of that legacy. Just because they played for an unsuccessful team doesn't mean they aren't good players. It's like saying RVP wouldn't be a better striking option over Giroud.
We're more focused on defence now and we finally have a proper defensive unit. That has a lot to do with our success this season and we've started to defend as a team.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
11-02-2014, 11:40 PM
Rosicky, Sagna, Walcott and Chesney were also part of that legacy. Just because they played for an unsuccessful team doesn't mean they aren't good players. It's like saying RVP wouldn't be a better striking option over Giroud.
We're more focused on defence now and we finally have a proper defensive unit. That has a lot to do with our success this season and we've started to defend as a team.
Yep. As I say, a proper CM next to our proper DM would be perfect.
Cesc would boss that midfield next to Flamini and take us up another level.
Sort it out Arsene.
Marc Overmars
12-02-2014, 12:04 AM
I've always said I'd have Cisc back in a heartbeat. He wasn't a great leader for us but he was the figurehead of a very young team, stick him with a bunch of older and mature players like we have now and he'd be a great asset. There wouldn't be a reliance on him put in some graft which he's never particularly been great at. Let him just be Frankcesc.
JonasTC
12-02-2014, 07:12 AM
tbh if Ramseys new form is here to stay, i'd rather want him to play CM than cesc. He was top in most statistic in both offense and defence. We're really missing his defensive work.
AFC Leveller
12-02-2014, 07:36 AM
Watching Cesc at his best was just a joy to behold. The way he passed the bal around was better than anyone else under AW IMO. He was young though and part of the old brittle team that couldnt defend but he was a player full of character and never hid in games.
fakeyank
12-02-2014, 08:23 AM
Watching Cesc at his best was just a joy to behold. The way he passed the bal around was better than anyone else under AW IMO. He was young though and part of the old brittle team that couldnt defend but he was a player full of character and never hid in games.
:gp:
Cesc is the most naturally gifted player I have seen live. Every game that I have seen of his, he seemed to have all the time in the world. A true world class player fucked in the head (and bum) by cunts at Barca.
The Emirates Gallactico
12-02-2014, 08:27 AM
Been linked to another German AM in the Daily Heil today. Maximilian Arnold who plays for Wolfsburg and has a release clause of £8 million.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2557404/Arsenal-tracking-Wolfsburgs-8m-teenage-prodigy-Maximilian-Arnold.html
Never heard of him tbh.
Wenger needs to quit with these Germans. Theyre all unathletic as fook slowing every fooking thing down. Needs to go back to them French-Africans or Eastern Euro types.
Munchies
12-02-2014, 03:29 PM
I was once watching a game over at a mates house during the unbeaten season, and his dad (who never watched football) said Arsenal only win because the team was (mostly) all black :lol:
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
12-02-2014, 03:31 PM
My old man told me to never bet on the white guy in boxing.
It works.
Munchies
12-02-2014, 03:32 PM
We need Jackson Martinez up top.
A big black bastard to tear the league apart.
Drogba-esque :bow:
What about Kalou ? :haha:
Sooner or later it's going to happen. Been linked to him for over a decade.
My old man told me to never bet on the white guy in boxing.
It works.
Your old man was Frank Drebin?
The following words conjure an image of Luis Suarez skipping around a meadow, possibly wearing something white and made of linen.
Anyway, here's Edinson Cavani on his Uruguay teammate: "I speak with Luis most weeks and he is loving life at Liverpool.
"When I speak with him now it sounds like a different man to that of last season. You can hear it in his voice how happy he is compared to last season.
"He has always loved Liverpool, things have not always gone well for him in England, and he told me how humbled he was by the way the club and the fans stood by him.
"All he wanted was to be at a team which matched his ambition, where he could play Champions League, and where he can compete for major trophies. Now Liverpool are in that place he is happy to stay."
So thats that then.
Well done Arsenal :rolleyes:
Munchies
12-02-2014, 04:54 PM
So thats that then.
Well done Arsenal :rolleyes:
We just need to hope Liverpool bottle it.
If they're outside the top 4, Suarez has a £70m release clause in the summer as per the new contract he signed.
AFC Leveller
12-02-2014, 05:13 PM
We just need to hope Liverpool bottle it.
If they're outside the top 4, Suarez has a £70m release clause in the summer as per the new contract he signed.
Isnt it 70m to a foreign team and 100m to an English team?
Either way, no one's paying it.
AFC Leveller
12-02-2014, 05:22 PM
Either way, no one's paying it.
Unless he has another clause which allows him to leave if they dont get top 4.
AFC Leveller
12-02-2014, 06:14 PM
Arseblog reporting that Sagna and the club have failed to reach an agreement and he's likely to be off in the summer now.
Globalgunner
12-02-2014, 06:16 PM
Unless he has another clause which allows him to leave if they dont get top 4.
Whatever clause it is, we will find a way to screw it up, then ad a tenner to pass them right off
Mr. Lahey
12-02-2014, 06:35 PM
Arseblog reporting that Sagna and the club have failed to reach an agreement and he's likely to be off in the summer now.
AFC up to their same old BS when it comes to rewarding players who have actually made a difference here :rolleyes: this is why it is far too early to say there have been significant improvements/mentality shift made by the club.
fakeyank
12-02-2014, 06:37 PM
AFC up to their same old BS when it comes to rewarding players who have actually made a difference here :rolleyes: this is why it is far too early to say there have been significant improvements/mentality shift made by the club.
:gp:
Even IF his performance had dipped, there is a premium which you need to pay for experience. We have let too many of them go and faltered every season since Vieira. Give him his 3 year contract FFS! What a shame..
Globalgunner
12-02-2014, 06:53 PM
:gp:
Even IF his performance had dipped, there is a premium which you need to pay for experience. We have let too many of them go and faltered every season since Vieira. Give him his 3 year contract FFS! What a shame..
No need to worry. Arteta is available, is a nice chap who doesn't want a raise. He can play there
Niall_Quinn
12-02-2014, 06:54 PM
Apparently (allegedly, supposedly, fair warning this information is from the mainstream media) they were prepared to offer the extended contract but the sticking point was the cash. Sagna wants a lot of it, apparently, supposedly, allegedly.
Master Splinter
12-02-2014, 07:06 PM
Apparently (allegedly, supposedly, fair warning this information is from the mainstream media) they were prepared to offer the extended contract but the sticking point was the cash. Sagna wants a lot of it, apparently, supposedly, allegedly.
I will only believe the apparently, supposedly and allegedly which corresponds to my pre-installed and unwavering bias and that which does not interfere with my festering hate. :angry: :angry:
milla
12-02-2014, 07:08 PM
Apparently (allegedly, supposedly, fair warning this information is from the mainstream media) they were prepared to offer the extended contract but the sticking point was the cash. Sagna wants a lot of it, apparently, supposedly, allegedly.
Galatasaray, Monaco and PSG are the favorites to sign Sagna, better pay and nice weather. :coffee:
Niall_Quinn
12-02-2014, 07:25 PM
I will only believe the apparently, supposedly and allegedly which corresponds to my pre-installed and unwavering bias and that which does not interfere with my festering hate. :angry: :angry:
Common sense really.
Niall_Quinn
12-02-2014, 07:26 PM
Galatasaray, Monaco and PSG are the favorites to sign Sagna, better pay and nice weather. :coffee:
Who would want to go to a shit hole like Turkey, or Paris, or...
fakeyank
12-02-2014, 07:32 PM
Galatasaray, Monaco and PSG are the favorites to sign Sagna, better pay and nice weather. :coffee:
Eboue getting fucked in the arse by Sagna again :lol:
milla
12-02-2014, 08:34 PM
Who would want to go to a shit hole like Turkey, or Paris, or...
Clearly you have never been to London. :whistle:
JonasTC
12-02-2014, 10:04 PM
Tbh i think its a good idea to get rid of Sagna. He doesnt fit our playstyle anymore, we need a guy that is much stronger offensively. Sagna is basically a fast central defender.
The Emirates Gallactico
12-02-2014, 10:06 PM
Pacy wide technical player who can finish please.
Angel Di Maria or someone of his ilk.
Niall_Quinn
12-02-2014, 10:06 PM
Clearly you have never been to London. :whistle:
That's a decisive point that seals the argument in your favour beyond any reasonable doubt - but you are 100% wrong.
Niall_Quinn
12-02-2014, 10:07 PM
Tbh i think its a good idea to get rid of Sagna. He doesnt fit our playstyle anymore, we need a guy that is much stronger offensively. Sagna is basically a fast central defender.
Agreed, he runs, get rid of him.
Whatever we do in the summer, if Wenger is still in charge you can be sure it won't be what we need.
Ralpheroo72
12-02-2014, 10:21 PM
I would like to see ample funds given to the new manager.
selassie
12-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Whatever we do in the summer, if Wenger is still in charge you can be sure it won't be what we need.
Yep, sadly I agree Zim.
milla
12-02-2014, 10:29 PM
Zim & Selassie :gp:
AFC Leveller
13-02-2014, 07:24 AM
Whatever we do in the summer, if Wenger is still in charge you can be sure it won't be what we need.
Agree.
JonasTC
13-02-2014, 09:17 AM
He bought a world class player last summer, im curious to why you guys think he wont do it again, now when he have even more money? I have no doubt we will see a world class striker and/or CDM being brought in, and that is all we need really.
Im curious to hear who you guys think we should bring in, i've read rumours of Balotelli in the 25m price range and Fernando from FCP, wouldt mind those two :) Else i would like us to go after a guy like Wanyama for CDM spot and Diego Costa or Jackson Martinez. Hell, why not put in a 50m bid for Falcao or Cavani? :d
Munchies
13-02-2014, 09:22 AM
He bought a world class player last summer, im curious to why you guys think he wont do it again, now when he have even more money? I have no doubt we will see a world class striker and/or CDM being brought in, and that is all we need really.
Im curious to hear who you guys think we should bring in, i've read rumours of Balotelli in the 25m price range and Fernando from FCP, wouldt mind those two :) Else i would like us to go after a guy like Wanyama for CDM spot and Diego Costa or Jackson Martinez. Hell, why not put in a 50m bid for Falcao or Cavani? :d
Because he panicked until the very end to sign someone.
We've had a fair bit of money to spend in the last 3-4 transfer windows.
There is no plan for the team, no targets set out. It's all a joke. I won't be surprised to see this summer window go the same way really.
That being said, we need:
A right back as Sagna is leaving.
A top striker
A CDM in the mould of Pogba/Gustavo,
2 CBs when Vermaelen leaves
1 winger.
We need to get rid of (and then replace) :
Giroud - not good enough.
Arteta - too slow and isn't suited to us.
JonasTC
13-02-2014, 09:35 AM
Ye but didnt he go after top class all window? He was after Higuain, then Suarez and we ended up Özil, so i have no doubt he will be chasing big players again.
I like Gustavo, but i would like more physical presence from our next CDM, Pogba would be :cloud9:
Munchies
13-02-2014, 09:37 AM
Ye but didnt he go after top class all window? He was after Higuain, then Suarez and we ended up Özil, so i have no doubt he will be chasing big players again.
I like Gustavo, but i would like more physical presence from our next CDM, Pogba would be :cloud9:
One thing chasing after big players, another is actually getting them.
But yeah, £40m bid for Pogba or whatever it takes, might aswell, got the funds
milla
13-02-2014, 09:54 AM
He bought a world class player last summer, im curious to why you guys think he wont do it again, now when he have even more money? I have no doubt we will see a world class striker and/or CDM being brought in, and that is all we need really.
Im curious to hear who you guys think we should bring in, i've read rumours of Balotelli in the 25m price range and Fernando from FCP, wouldt mind those two :) Else i would like us to go after a guy like Wanyama for CDM spot and Diego Costa or Jackson Martinez. Hell, why not put in a 50m bid for Falcao or Cavani? :d
Those lot will make too much runs on the pitch :wenget:
selassie
13-02-2014, 10:03 AM
He bought a world class player last summer, im curious to why you guys think he wont do it again, now when he have even more money? I have no doubt we will see a world class striker and/or CDM being brought in, and that is all we need really.
Im curious to hear who you guys think we should bring in, i've read rumours of Balotelli in the 25m price range and Fernando from FCP, wouldt mind those two :) Else i would like us to go after a guy like Wanyama for CDM spot and Diego Costa or Jackson Martinez. Hell, why not put in a 50m bid for Falcao or Cavani? :d
He may well bring in a world class player but will it be in a position we need to fill? Moreover, will it even be a player who is a specialist in the position we need, E.G. Wenger is keen on Draxler but it is widely thought that he wants to convert him into a striker.
I really like Draxler as a player, think the kid has huge potential but I am not interested in the "square pegs in round holes approach", if we need a top class striker we should just buy one, not someone who needs to be converted.
Oh and you are kidding yourself if you think Wenger will spend big on a DM, will not happen.
Munchies
14-02-2014, 02:16 PM
@tancredipalmeri
https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri
AN UNBELIEVABLE NEWS FOR ARSENAL FANS! I had to promise embargo until friday. IT IS HUGE!
Draxler ? Balotelli ? He's an italian journalist with a big following.
He's supposedly announcing this at 2:30, in 15 mins or so
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 02:21 PM
He's supposedly announcing this at 2:30, in 15 mins or so
You bit hard on this one :haha:
He's announcing something that was already announced weeks ago, we have signed a big shirt deal. Poor sap has embargoed common knowledge.
He's supposedly announcing this at 2:30, in 15 mins or so
It'll probably be something about profits and transfer kitty or how bears sh*t in the woods.
Munchies
14-02-2014, 02:25 PM
It'll probably be something about profits and transfer kitty or how bears sh*t in the woods.
:lol:
I'm not expecting anything really, it'll probably be Balotelli which everyone got before him.
Just checked on that page, he's delayed it for an hour :haha: , full of shit.
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 02:28 PM
:lol:
I'm not expecting anything really, it'll probably be Balotelli which everyone got before him.
Just checked on that page, he's delayed it for an hour :haha: , full of shit.
You'll have to press the refresh for another hour now - massive bummer.
Munchies
14-02-2014, 03:39 PM
You'll have to press the refresh for another hour now - massive bummer.
Just checked it now ,
Seems that RVC wants to return .
:haha: What a load of BS, it was in the papers last week .
McNamara That Ghost...
14-02-2014, 05:10 PM
RVP. :lol:
I don't believe we'd be after him but it wouldn't be a shock if he does leave, I don't think pubbing it in 7th and potentially not being in the CL next year was really what he was after.
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 05:13 PM
RVP. :lol:
I don't believe we'd be after him but it wouldn't be a shock if he does leave, I don't think pubbing it in 7th and potentially not being in the CL next year was really what he was after.
Is he saving up to be the most hated player in football history? He can stay where he is. He'll just have to make do with visiting Hleb's Facebook page.
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 05:59 PM
Gervinho MKII on the way?
http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/14/arsenal-make-fiorentina-star-juan-cuadrado-their-top-summer-transfer-target-4304319/
Top target? Oh I hope not.
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 06:09 PM
http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/14/portsmouth-fc-complete-deal-to-sign-44-year-old-pizza-loving-fan-4304337/
Wenger :doh:
Marc Overmars
14-02-2014, 06:11 PM
It won't happen of course, but out of curiosity if RVC genuinely wanted to return and Wenget sanctioned it, how would fans react?
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 06:14 PM
It won't happen of course, but out of curiosity if RVC genuinely wanted to return and Wenget sanctioned it, how would fans react?
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=312&p=371000&viewfull=1#post371000
It won't happen of course, but out of curiosity if RVC genuinely wanted to return and Wenget sanctioned it, how would fans react?
Couple of moany games then we'd be celebrating his goals.
Marc Overmars
14-02-2014, 06:15 PM
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=312&p=371000&viewfull=1#post371000
Yeah I deleted it as I wanted to post the question in this thread instead. :lol:
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 06:17 PM
Couple of moany games then we'd be celebrating his goals.
He could be Thomas for a while, instead of Judas. Then "That new bloke", then "Robin", then, "...scores when he want's, he scores when he waaa-aants..."
Niall_Quinn
14-02-2014, 06:18 PM
Yeah I deleted it as I wanted to post the question in this thread instead. :lol:
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=312&p=371006&viewfull=1#post371006
McNamara That Ghost...
14-02-2014, 06:40 PM
If he's going to be a dick to Ramsey again, then no thanks.
Munchies
14-02-2014, 06:51 PM
Don't want him to wear the shirt ever again.
Biggest cunt going.
Stuck by him through everything, and one good season and he fucks off.
I enjoy the fact that he's part of the team that Moyes is taking down.
Power n Glory
14-02-2014, 06:55 PM
He can piss off. He's shown zero class since moving to Manure. It was bad enough he chose that particular club but I dealt with it. It's business not personal type of attitude. But he's been a classless cunt since moving and he's acting as if he's playing for the team he's always dreamed of playing for. Like he wasn't a Gooner!
Let him rot!
Master Splinter
14-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Biggest cunt going.
Hard to disagree.
Just For Men is the slimiest player ever associated with us. He hid it exceptionally well tbf.
Master Splinter
14-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Let him rot!
Expertly put.
Xhaka Can’t
14-02-2014, 08:56 PM
As unusual as it is on the Arsenal section - what PnG said.
Bumble
14-02-2014, 09:06 PM
Cashley or RvC who is worse?
Master Splinter
14-02-2014, 09:13 PM
Cashley or RvC who is worse?
Wenger.
Master Splinter
14-02-2014, 09:17 PM
But seriously, RVC.
At least Cashley didn't pretend to be an upstanding guy who loved the club with a transparent and insulting message to "you guys" thrown in for good measure. Cashley is a cash-hungry little turd and he knows it. But he was consistently excellent for us on the pitch, rather than constantly in the treatment room.
fakeyank
14-02-2014, 10:03 PM
RVC can fuck off and die tbh.. rather we sign another Kallstrom tbh :jonas:
selassie
15-02-2014, 01:11 AM
Slight change of subject but Balotelli's goal today.....ridiculous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONZUCnSKHs
Xhaka Can’t
15-02-2014, 08:23 AM
That is a beauty!
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Injury Time
15-02-2014, 11:11 AM
Slight change of subject but Balotelli's goal today.....ridiculous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONZUCnSKHs
Wenger has just seen this and dropped his desire to sign him as he should've known to pass it 3 yards rather than shoot :sulk:
Niall_Quinn
15-02-2014, 11:30 AM
Balotelli is shit. Lots of talent, no character, gutless, stupid. He scores as many own goals as goals. Proper world class professional striker required not a waster like him.
I am invisible
15-02-2014, 11:42 AM
I'm actually warming to the idea of Balotelli as an option? He's a risk, but he's also one of the few strikers around at the moment who looks like he's got some genuine flair about him, and who could be something a bit special, with a bit of refinement?
I'm not really sure I trust Wenger's ability to get the best out of players with serious motivational issues (like Arshavin), but for some reason I think he'd be a good manager / mentor for a fiery character like young Mario? Some fiery players need strict structure and disciple to get the best out of them, but others seem to bizarrely respond better to being given a position of trust and responsibility within a squad, and being made to feel like they're one of the leaders in the group instead of a liability who who everyone's waiting to slip up. I see some parallels with RVC, and the way he went from being a precocious-but-petulant wildcard to club captain and relentless goal-machine after being given a position if seniority and trust by the manager - it's just a suspicion, but I think Balotelli would really respond well to something similar?
Balotelli is awesome, still only 23 but starting to score goals for fun now, his talent can never be questioned it's just his temperament, but I think that will improve with age.
Wouldn't mind him here, he's a genuine matchwinner who can pull out strikes out of nowhere.
Balotelli is shit. Lots of talent, no character, gutless, stupid. He scores as many own goals as goals. Proper world class professional striker required not a waster like him.
He is World Class, he's done it for Italy and in every league he's played in.
McNamara That Ghost...
15-02-2014, 12:09 PM
World Class in terms of his ability and what he can reach but I don't think you can say he has gone very far to fulfill that, yet.
World Class in terms of his ability and what he can reach but I don't think you can say he has gone very far to fulfill that, yet.
He's 23 had a very good season for Man City where he scored a decent amount of goals, has 26 for Milan this season and was brilliant at the last World Cup, at his age that's not bad going to be honest.
He's not the finished article but at 23 he has plenty of time ahead of him as well.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
15-02-2014, 12:55 PM
Still not sold on Super Mario myself and think he would be too much of a gamble. In reality though, if Wenger signs a top class forward I would just be downright belatedly and bloody relieved.
Marc Overmars
15-02-2014, 01:04 PM
Balotelli is awesome, just a little bit mental and that will always be held up as a question mark against him until he chills out and performs consistently.
Saying that, I'd have him here in an instant.
He'd have to be cheap to make it worth the risk.
milla
15-02-2014, 01:13 PM
World Class in terms of his ability and what he can reach but I don't think you can say he has gone very far to fulfill that, yet.
Well, then he will fit in nicely with our lot then.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
15-02-2014, 01:19 PM
Bad apples cannot be left to rot things from within, which I believe to an extent, Wenger allowed Gallarseee to do for far longer than he should have. That was owing to the non-confrontational softly, softly approach of the manager and you can't say for certain that will work with Balotelli.....
Probably odds on for him and Wilshere to have a punch up at some point. The bitey racist is at least a lot less likely to one punch knock out his own team mate/manager....
McNamara That Ghost...
15-02-2014, 01:45 PM
He's 23 had a very good season for Man City where he scored a decent amount of goals, has 26 for Milan this season and was brilliant at the last World Cup, at his age that's not bad going to be honest.
He's not the finished article but at 23 he has plenty of time ahead of him as well.
26? Over two seasons yes (well one and a half) but that's hardly a stunning record. He didn't play much in the World Cup, you mean the Euros, where he was very good against Germany, as were Italy in general in the tournament but I don't really care for talking about international tournaments as to why we should or shouldn't sign a player.
He's 23, 24 this year which means he really needs to be at the stage where he gets his head in the game and realises exactly what he wants to be. The best striker in the world, or a glorified pelanty taker with the downside of being mental.
saintnickle
15-02-2014, 02:26 PM
He'd have to be cheap to make it worth the risk.
For us to get him he would have to be cheap fullstop.
For us to get him he would have to be cheap fullstop.
Yeah like Ozil.
saintnickle
15-02-2014, 02:43 PM
Yeah like Ozil.
No like our last 3 signings sanogo flamini and kalstrom.:o
No like our last 3 signings sanogo flamini and kalstrom.:o
Sanogo and Flamini were signed before Ozil but nice try haha lol jk shit try.
Özil's Panoramic View
15-02-2014, 03:44 PM
He would definitely improve us in an area where we're most lacking.
No chance of him coming.
26? Over two seasons yes (well one and a half) but that's hardly a stunning record. He didn't play much in the World Cup, you mean the Euros, where he was very good against Germany, as were Italy in general in the tournament but I don't really care for talking about international tournaments as to why we should or shouldn't sign a player.
He's 23, 24 this year which means he really needs to be at the stage where he gets his head in the game and realises exactly what he wants to be. The best striker in the world, or a glorified pelanty taker with the downside of being mental.
He had one good season for them, I was talking about his total goalscoring record whilst there. Sorry yes I meant Euros, but you still have to be decent to perform like he did.
He's scored 26 for Milan this season, that's pretty good and shows an improvement, temperament is another thing but as he gets older that's bound to improve.
Master Splinter
15-02-2014, 04:19 PM
He has scored 14 for Milan this season. It's not difficult to find scoring stats.
No like our last 3 signings sanogo flamini and kalstrom.:o
Exactly right.
He has scored 14 for Milan this season. It's not difficult to find scoring stats.
Sorry I meant 26 for Milan rather than this season, that's in 40 games so not bad going especially considering Milan are sh*t these days.
Penguin
15-02-2014, 04:25 PM
Fuck Balotelli :coffee:
McNamara That Ghost...
15-02-2014, 04:46 PM
He had one good season for them, I was talking about his total goalscoring record whilst there. Sorry yes I meant Euros, but you still have to be decent to perform like he did.
He's scored 26 for Milan this season, that's pretty good and shows an improvement, temperament is another thing but as he gets older that's bound to improve.
It only improves if you are willing to improve it, it doesn't automatically happen. Of course he is 'decent', I've said beyond that for his talent but that's the thing, he isn't performing to the level his talent should be allowing him to.
He hasn't had a World Class season and most who are going to, would have had one by now, so like I say, it's now he needs to start getting serious.
Bumble
16-02-2014, 03:26 AM
Well vermalen and sagna look like leaving. So defensive improvements more likely.
fakeyank
16-02-2014, 08:45 AM
He would definitely improve us in an area where we're most lacking.
No chance of him coming.
We are signing Kallstrom instead... permanently. While we are it, we are also re-signing Bischoff.
Zerlathon
17-02-2014, 09:30 AM
I really do think that bringing Balotelli to The Emirates could work out very well for BOTH Club and Player.
The guy seems a little "delicate" mentally, and being part of a Team FULL of massive egos and a shit Manager who is quite happy to publicly run his Players under a bus (i.e. Man City w/ Mancini) would obviously have an adverse effect on his attitude.
However at the Emirates, we have a mature and friendly Team who always lookout for eachother and a Manager who is willing to put himself in front of the firing line to protect his Players. Along with age, I think the atmosphere at our Club he would mature quickly which would allow him to concentrate more on his football.
JonasTC
17-02-2014, 10:09 AM
You're not considering that the english media will be all over him 24/7 trying to instigate shit
Ozil feeding Balotelli and Walcott has spunk all over it.
Zerlathon
17-02-2014, 10:54 AM
You're not considering that the english media will be all over him 24/7 trying to instigate shit
I did consider it, but then this goes back to my point on how Mancini "dealt" with Balotelli. Wenger won't so openly point the finger on Balotelli to try and hide his own shortcomings.
Balotelli will be given enough freedom at the Emirates to concentrate on playing football, and the Media will run out of things to say when he's banging in goals for fun (which nobody can deny he is capable of doing). Great example of this is Suarez, as not too long ago he was the PE #1.
Balotelli will always attract controversy IMO, he's that kind of eccentric personality, but talent wise he's a bit special, if anyone can harness his ability to the full he's be some player. Wenger's style would suit him IMO, he seems like the kind of player who needs praise and to be made to feel special, that's probably Wenger's strength.
Not sure if this will ever happy though, any link is pure paper talk we've never really shown much interest in him.
Munchies
17-02-2014, 11:47 AM
Ozil feeding Balotelli and Walcott has spunk all over it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HXu2Q3LbVNE/UGPb4RfesDI/AAAAAAAAA3k/y_76T5Xc1j4/s1600/nod-of-approval.gif
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HXu2Q3LbVNE/UGPb4RfesDI/AAAAAAAAA3k/y_76T5Xc1j4/s1600/nod-of-approval.gif
:lol:
selassie
17-02-2014, 01:44 PM
I personally think Balotelli is worth the risk. His potential is limitless, he has already performed on the big stage albeit sporadically. The only thing he is lacking is consistency, once he finds that he will be up there as an Elite player IMO.
I am invisible
17-02-2014, 02:09 PM
http://news.arseblog.com/2014/02/schalke-arsenal-bid-big-for-draxler/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
It's back on!
AFC Leveller
17-02-2014, 02:36 PM
Blid say Bayern will be in for him as Ribery's replacement.
But Schalke's chariman says there was only one bid and it was from Us.
JonasTC
17-02-2014, 03:08 PM
I'd rather we go after a striker, holding midfielder and probably a right back/center back if/when verm and sagna leaves. We have plenty of quality on the wings, especially with Gnabry and Ox who will only become better and better.
Marc Overmars
17-02-2014, 03:33 PM
If Draxler is potentially special then I'm happy for us to spunk a load of cash on him seeing as we can afford to now, however there are certainly more pressing areas to improve in the team.
Munchies
17-02-2014, 04:05 PM
£120m cash reserves, £150m from Puma, we should comfortably be able to compete with the big clubs for signings now.
If Draxler has been scouted this long, and Wenger has had big bids already rejected for him, he might aswell get the deal done.
But yeah, pressing areas that need to be dealt with:
RB
Back-up keepers now Fabs/Viviano going.
Strikers
CDM
Winger
CB as Vermaelen is leaving.
The Emirates Gallactico
17-02-2014, 04:35 PM
£120m cash reserves, £150m from Puma, we should comfortably be able to compete with the big clubs for signings now.
The 150 million is spread over five years, it's not one big payment. We can't spunk all that in one window. And likewise spending the 120 million cash reserve in one go would be the height of silliness.
But the fundamental point is right though, we can spend on a couple of big signings a window now. Not City/Chelsea/PSG mad but we can flex ourselves and make our prescene known in the market.
We've also signed new commerical deals with Huawei, Jean Richard waches and Gatorade this year so that should give us a few extra million per window. Need to get more sponsers on board give us more easy cash to spend. Anyone know the number for Coca Cola?
Just need to do what Utd have done and have an 'official partner' for everything.
Just need to do what Utd have done and have an 'official partner' for everything.
Giroud is already sorting that for us :good:
Official buttplug supplier?
Niall_Quinn
17-02-2014, 08:52 PM
Diaby should be hard at work promoting all sorts of medical supplies and splitting things 50/50 with the club.
Munchies
17-02-2014, 11:24 PM
Sagna can form partnerships with extra large condom companies :coffee:
Another post from you about his cock :haha:
Bergkamplegend
18-02-2014, 11:52 AM
To be honest I have a huge respect for all the fans who keep on trusting wenger, and believe that he will sign big names next summer...
I just don't know how you can believe that he's still the right manager for us.:shrug:
Because of Ozil ??
C'mon let's be honest, it was an "emergency" signing, to calm the fans...
And assure his new contract.
And to be fair, I think that Ozil would never have signed at Arsenal if there wasn't the world cup this year.
Zerlathon
18-02-2014, 02:27 PM
To be honest I have a huge respect for all the fans who keep on trusting wenger, and believe that he will sign big names next summer...
I just don't know how you can believe that he's still the right manager for us.:shrug:
Because of Ozil ??
C'mon let's be honest, it was an "emergency" signing, to calm the fans...
And assure his new contract.
And to be fair, I think that Ozil would never have signed at Arsenal if there wasn't the world cup this year.
I'm guessing that you have some decent (and obtainable) Managers that can take us to the next level then?
Xhaka Can’t
18-02-2014, 02:33 PM
I'm guessing that you have some decent (and obtainable) Managers that can take us to the next level then?
Well, I'm sure we could do better than United did. But you are right to point out how difficult the task is. And United are a case study for when you get it wrong.
I am worried about Gazidis's chances of getting it right.
Well, I'm sure we could do better than United did. But you are right to point out how difficult the task is. And United are a case study for when you get it wrong.
I am worried about Gazidis's chances of getting it right.
Isn't Gazidis Wengers man anyway? My hunch tells me that Kronke will get rid of Gazidis when Wenger goes.....the model for Stan needs to be the same blueprint, and I'm sure they will be looking at a very similar replacement for Wenget.
Fist of Lehmann
18-02-2014, 03:01 PM
And when Gazidis goes, he should take the Dick Law he rode in on.
Power n Glory
18-02-2014, 05:23 PM
Manure should have never allowed Fergie to pick his successor or they should have at least overrode it when they heard it was Moyes. There was nothing in his record or in his style of play to suggest he’d be able to handle United. Now they’re in a position where they’ll have to blow over £100m to get United up and running again. We can’t afford that sort of cock up. If we can’t attract a manager that has the experience of winning league titles and major trophies, we need to at least get someone in that can evolve our total football style philosophy. That’s what we should be looking for if we’re going for a wild card and giving a young coach their first shot. Liverpool haven’t done too badly with Brendan Rogers. It was a long shot and it’s early days but it’s looking good for them.
Ivan is smart enough to know we need a coach that can carry on tradition. It’s not possible for us to go from Wenger to a chequebook manager or someone who plays a totally different brand of football to our attacking style. Despite the long trophy draught, the rep we have for attractive football has kept the fans coming back and helps our international appeal. Even if he’s looking from a financial perspective, he wouldn’t go against the grain and risk losing money. We’ve got a successful business already in place.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
18-02-2014, 05:55 PM
If you believe the reports, Wenger was willing to spend a significant sum on Draxler (a 20 year old who has proven very little I hasten to add)....and an offer was turned down. That does not suggest he is not willing to bid big again or that Ozil was some scheme to placate fans. Wenger has little previous of being bullied into anything never mind transfer deals and I think he would sooner walk then have his arm twisted into it.
The Ozil deal as much as anything else is testimony to his career long near obsession with players of a footballing altruistic nature. He has always fancied players who are inclined to assist and knit the play in unique ways.
My concern is whether or not he is willing to polly fill all the gaps in the old plaster board wall rather than just a few of them before we go into a season. If he did that, I think we would see him resoundingly supported, in spite of his occasional tactical naivety and disposition for making subs based on energy levels/fitness alone.
JonasTC
18-02-2014, 09:05 PM
How would people feel about Loic Remy comming here in the summer? Been reading rumours of him to join us in the summer. He's been a 1-in-2 striker in the premier league for QPR/Newcastle (Giroud is 1-in-3 for us :s), so no doubt he would be able to raise that to another level at our club with the chances we're creating, is alot better match with Özil aswell. In France he scored quite a bit of goals despite being used mainly on the wings.
Master Splinter
18-02-2014, 09:12 PM
We need someone better than Remy.
Niall_Quinn
18-02-2014, 09:20 PM
How would people feel about Loic Remy comming here in the summer? Been reading rumours of him to join us in the summer. He's been a 1-in-2 striker in the premier league for QPR/Newcastle (Giroud is 1-in-3 for us :s), so no doubt he would be able to raise that to another level at our club with the chances we're creating, is alot better match with Özil aswell. In France he scored quite a bit of goals despite being used mainly on the wings.
Fine if he's being brought in as cover for our world class signing. If he's it, that won't be close to good enough. Haven't waited 10 years to see B listers.
If you believe the reports, Wenger was willing to spend a significant sum on Draxler (a 20 year old who has proven very little I hasten to add)....and an offer was turned down. That does not suggest he is not willing to bid big again or that Ozil was some scheme to placate fans. Wenger has little previous of being bullied into anything never mind transfer deals and I think he would sooner walk then have his arm twisted into it.
The Ozil deal as much as anything else is testimony to his career long near obsession with players of a footballing altruistic nature. He has always fancied players who are inclined to assist and knit the play in unique ways.
My concern is whether or not he is willing to polly fill all the gaps in the old plaster board wall rather than just a few of them before we go into a season. If he did that, I think we would see him resoundingly supported, in spite of his occasional tactical naivety and disposition for making subs based on energy levels/fitness alone.
I was all for us signing Draxler in January because we really needed an injection of something new, to some extent I would like him in the summer as well, but the more pressing need is that of a top class striker. If we got him and a top striker great, but if it was only Draxler I'm not sure how I'd feel, obviously it would be nice to have such a talent, but it wouldn't solve our problem.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
18-02-2014, 09:50 PM
I would be happy to welcome Remy here. He would improve our counter attacking and now the rape charge has been dropped we won't be hearing it as a constant reason to stay well clear. It's not like he really fancies Podolski.
Draxler I would suggest could be fast tracked into the CF role if that is indeed Wenger's plan for him as it seems he has quite the skill set.
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