Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Power n Glory]

Why do you class buying young English talent as a risk. Walcott & OX haven't neccessarily set the world on fire in an Arsenal shirt - some of the blame has to lie with poor management & ofcourse both seem to love hospitals but if they had had injury free seasons last year & both gone to Brazil what do you reckon their market value would be - YES, far more than what we paid so therefore for 2 players who could be doing better we would still return a profit on sale. Hardly a risk.
Now, lets say that OX has an injury free year & takes the Prem by storm which is a possibility - could have a silly Spanish offer or a Gypo offer for 60-70 mill within a few years.
Ozil for £47 mill was more of a risk than £30 mill for Shaw, another couple of poor seasons for him & we'll struggle to get half our money back.

Why are we talking about buying to sell? Isn't that the sort of thing we're tired of seeing at our club? Also, if we're talking about Wenger mismanaging young players, why would we want to see him spend more on them? Finally, the English premium only applies to the Premier League. Bale was a one off. He's the only superstar British player to leave the Prem in the last 10 years. We'd have to go as far back as Owen and Beckham's move to Madrid unless you want to count Joe Cole, Joey Barton and Defoe. :lol: It's usually the top 4 clubs paying silly fees for the lower league teams as well. It's rare to top 4 clubs selling each other their English players at a massive fee. If Shaw somehow flops, there is nowhere else for him to go but down and United won't recoup that money. See Liverpool and Andy Carroll. Ozil is no way more of a risk than Shaw. We could easily sell him back to another major club in Europe if things don't work out for him here.

[fakeyank]

If only I could believe this .......................... :(


Van Gaal has been occupied with coaching another side which is more time consuming than punditry yet his new club have pulled of two expensive deals already. And now that half of the teams have been eliminated it should increase the odds of signing someone. Really, unless the player in question is still playing at the world cup and is integral to their first team, there's no reason not to be capable of concluding deals right now.


I heard this on the Arsecast extra the other day but I thought it would also be good to get opinions here. At what date/point will you guys start to officially panic?


I can see the more sensible posters are trying to be more restrained and trying to give the benefit of the doubt to Wenger/Gazidis but eventually there has to be a point, no? I remember last year I got a bit of stick on here for allegedly panicing too early when we were dithering about as usual in the market. I think it was when Liverpool looked to have signed Mkhythrian (actually ended up at Dortmund) and we as usual were bumbling about ........ obviously I was later proved correct with how horrific it ended up.

For me if we haven't wrapped up at least one major deal by the end of July I'd start bricking it. We've got a challenging opening run of games and there needs to be time for whatever signing we make to be embedded into the squad and to acclimatise to both the country (assuming he's foreign) and the club. I think any signing after this point won't fully be ready for the first PL game of the season which is why it's imperative it's done by then.

I am already panicking but its the same story every season, so that makes it easier to digest. We know that till we have Vinegar as manager, things will be going down the same way.. Experienced players leaving, best players leaving, waiting period, panic/bargain basement buying. :rolleyes:

[Syn]

I'd agree with spending what's required on first choice targets but I think they've taken a massive risk. It's the sort we can't afford. He may turn out to be a Rio type signing, but United have also blown serious money on Nani and Anderson. Smalling and Jones aren't looking so hot either.

I don't think you said much wrong in your post but I'm just a bit uneasy with the suggestion that United have a better strategy than ours. We can't afford to do what they do.

Depends on how you rate Shaw I guess, but agree with that. They can take more risks, and I think, for example, Herrera is a bigger risk. Our strategy should be to take in the more established players but that in itself offers a big risk too.

We can't hope an Ozil falls into our lap every summer. We'll hope for Real Madrid to try to sign Suarez in order to free up Benzema, but it could leave us empty handed. Meanwhile instead of waiting for Southampton to have made £60m in transfer fees, we could've bought Schneiderlin quite early for slightly over the odds, and sorted one of our problem areas.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I hate to make the comparison, but I can't help feeling Shaw could very easily become more of a winger in a few years, in the same vein as Bale.

As for Lallana. I think he's a decent player, he'll fit into our style quite nicely but I just can't get excited about him. The money is neither here nor there, welcome to the Barclays Premier League. This summer I want a marquee signing though. Especially when/if Suarez goes. We're back in the CL, it was meant to open doors previously shut to us last summer. Well fucking prove it and sign somebody decent, not another 2/3 bargain basement shithouses like Aspas and Moses.

Also, fair play to Wenger. Looks pretty decent for 60-whatever.

[Marc Overmars]

One of the Sky Sports drones says we may be after Lovren should Vermaelen go.

Poor old Southampton won't have a team left at this rate.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'd agree with spending what's required on first choice targets but I think they've taken a massive risk. It's the sort we can't afford. He may turn out to be a Rio type signing, but United have also blown serious money on Nani and Anderson. Smalling and Jones aren't looking so hot either.

I don't think you said much wrong in your post but I'm just a bit uneasy with the suggestion that United have a better strategy than ours. We can't afford to do what they do.

Their requirements are different to us - so that aspect of our strategy (no more youngsters) should be different. Where their strategy is vastly different and superior to ours is that once they've identified who they want, they pay what it takes and they get him in with good time to prepare for the coming season.

It is our unwillingness to do the latter that has the fans laying mushroom clouds.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Lallana and Lambert :lol:

Operating in a new transfer market they said. Top 4 next season? Nah.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Would anyone consider paying 100 quid for a lottery ticket if they knew it had 50% chance of coming in? Of course they would. Shaw's fee is huge, no doubt but I really don't see him being a complete flop. The risk is offset by the fact you don't have to worry he will adapt to a new league and country. And I don't even rate him as much as half of you lot.

I don't think you should do it with every signing....but there comes a point where you identify the man for you, show some Cojones and put your money down on the table. Fortunately left back is about the only position we don't need a recruit in...doh!

[Japan Shaking All Over]

One of the Sky Sports drones says we may be after Lovren should Vermaelen go.

Poor old Southampton won't have a team left at this rate.

Nice option....should be after their best DM Schneiderlin

[Niall_Quinn]

We'll preparing the fax asking for a time extension after the World Cup has ended, the wanting and waiting periods are over and the impossible until Suarez moves period has concluded. So there's nothing to worry about.

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7TqOjt6qfjE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrKaiVNCMAAEgmt.jpg

[selassie]

Must be scouting for a new striker.

:lol:

[selassie]

If only I could believe this .......................... :(


Van Gaal has been occupied with coaching another side which is more time consuming than punditry yet his new club have pulled of two expensive deals already. And now that half of the teams have been eliminated it should increase the odds of signing someone. Really, unless the player in question is still playing at the world cup and is integral to their first team, there's no reason not to be capable of concluding deals right now.


I heard this on the Arsecast extra the other day but I thought it would also be good to get opinions here. At what date/point will you guys start to officially panic?


I can see the more sensible posters are trying to be more restrained and trying to give the benefit of the doubt to Wenger/Gazidis but eventually there has to be a point, no? I remember last year I got a bit of stick on here for allegedly panicing too early when we were dithering about as usual in the market. I think it was when Liverpool looked to have signed Mkhythrian (actually ended up at Dortmund) and we as usual were bumbling about ........ obviously I was later proved correct with how horrific it ended up.

For me if we haven't wrapped up at least one major deal by the end of July I'd start bricking it. We've got a challenging opening run of games and there needs to be time for whatever signing we make to be embedded into the squad and to acclimatise to both the country (assuming he's foreign) and the club. I think any signing after this point won't fully be ready for the first PL game of the season which is why it's imperative it's done by then.

Call me a cynic TEG but I honestly believe we'll get hardly any business done. If we are lucky we'll sign a striker who most likely won't be our first choice target and we'll sign a backup Keeper.

I just don't feel as if Arsene thinks we need much. He will do the bare minimum IMO.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I have very little expectation for this window. It doesn't help that there is very little out there that either hasn't been snapped up already by cheats not observing the waiting period.

[Syn]

I just don't feel as if Arsene thinks we need much. He will do the bare minimum IMO.

Definitely. It's a bit ridiculous to think that after coaching some exceptional players and teams he has, he can't see how much work the current squad needs. Obviously he does know, but won't act on it. Because Wenger isn't looking for anything logical, like money. He can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Wenger just wants to watch the world burn.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7TqOjt6qfjE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrKaiVNCMAAEgmt.jpg

cashmir :haha: he does come out with some corkers

[I am invisible]

...Van Gaal has been occupied with coaching another side which is more time consuming than punditry yet his new club have pulled of two expensive deals already...

Do you think they were Van Gaal signings or club signings though? We know they were after Herrera last summer, and I think Shaw was on their shopping list a long time before they decided to ditch Moyes, so I'd be surprised if van Gaal had much to do here, other than to decide whether to veto the moves or not?

For me, what this proves more than anything is that we shouldn't even need the manager to be around in order to get deals done - I mean if Man U can be signing players while they don't even have one, then surely we should be able to get deals done, if our manager goes for a swim or a stroll on the beach?

[I am invisible]

Nice option....should be after their best DM Schneiderlin
http://www.thickaccent.com/2014/06/28/vine-fan-begs-arsene-wenger-not-to-take-schneiderlin-on-a-beach-in-rio/

[Globalgunner]

Do you think they were Van Gaal signings or club signings though? We know they were after Herrera last summer, and I think Shaw was on their shopping list a long time before they decided to ditch Moyes, so I'd be surprised if van Gaal had much to do here, other than to decide whether to veto the moves or not?

For me, what this proves more than anything is that we shouldn't even need the manager to be around in order to get deals done - I mean if Man U can be signing players while they don't even have one, then surely we should be able to get deals done, if our manager goes for a swim or a stroll on the beach?

That is the ideal situation where the manager has a defined role. Where he identifies targets and lets others get on with signing them. That doesn't seem to be the case at Arsenal where one man is manager, DoF, chief scout, Finance director, all rolled into one. More to the point it presumes the manager wants to have the best players his club can afford to give him the best chance at winning stuff. I'm certain that isn't the case at Arsenal. Our manager presumes HE is the key success factor.

[Ralpheroo72]

You guys really want Wenger to spend big money on young talent? Haven't we already done this with Reyes, Walcott and Ox? Let's not get all green eyed here. It's not £30m but those guys weren't cheap and I wouldn't want us to take anymore risks on young players considering our track record.

I really want him to buy someone, I mean most of our so called rivals have strengthened. We risk falling further behind, and we don't really need that much. But our manager continues to frustrate. Am I surprised though, not one bit.

[Marc Overmars]

We'll hang around like a vulture waiting to swoop for whatever is left. Even though we have the money now old habits die hard.

[Munchies]

The new Arsenal Puma shirt for sale on sports direct. Pretty much confirmed:
http://www.sportsdirect.com/mt/www.sportsdirect.com/puma-arsenal-hm-jsy-sn43-377393

http://images.sportsdirect.com/images/imgzoom/37/37739361_xl.jpg


Away;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrNtkIBIcAE10Ps.jpg

[KSE Comedy Club]

Sexy as fuck tbh

[Munchies]

Let's see if the Puma money helps get in some players then..

I'll probably get the home shirt, if the board finally spend some money this transfer window. I haven't bought a home one since the 07 shirt with the gold stripe.

[Munchies]

We're being linked with a £44m move for Vidal :lol:

Wenger praises him on a world cup show, and the next minute we're linked with him..

[Marc Overmars]

Kit looks good, nice and simple.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Caught offside reckon we've agreed a deal with real of £48m (60m euro's) for Di Maria & Morata :coffee:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Do you think they were Van Gaal signings or club signings though? We know they were after Herrera last summer, and I think Shaw was on their shopping list a long time before they decided to ditch Moyes, so I'd be surprised if van Gaal had much to do here, other than to decide whether to veto the moves or not?

For me, what this proves more than anything is that we shouldn't even need the manager to be around in order to get deals done - I mean if Man U can be signing players while they don't even have one, then surely we should be able to get deals done, if our manager goes for a swim or a stroll on the beach?

Yep I categorically agree and GlobalGunner has put it in perfect words above. It's pretty well documented by now how much power Wenger has at the club and over transfer policy. Which is why most people are within their rights to be agitated at him being kooked up doing punditry in Brazil rather than focused on doing the deals to get the squad ready for a title challenge next year. Poor bugger could enjoy his holiday in peace if that wasn't the case.

Ideally you'd want a scenario where Wenger and Gazidis sit down and draw up a list of targets before the window begins and it's then left entirely up to Gazidis to obtain said targets with his and only his discretion being used as the chief executive to decide how much resources should be devoted.

The thing is that this seems to be what used to happen when Dein was around but in the vacuum of his departure Wenger took up more responsibility and seems to not want to relinquish it ever since then.


We're being linked with a £44m move for Vidal :lol:

Wenger praises him on a world cup show, and the next minute we're linked with him..

:lol:

Another Reus situation. He's too well coveted for us to even stand a chance of him. Not that I mind us showing this sort of ambition but if there's an inkling he's available a Barca/Madrid + Petro club would be all over him. Juventus ain't going to sell so it's a moot point in any regard.





@ The New Kit. - Decent enough shirt. Will also buy a couple but only after we make a signing. Don't feel like I should spend money if the club aren't.

Anyone know whether it's skintight?

[Marc Overmars]

Anyone know whether it's skintight?

It probably is judging by other Puma tops. :sick:

I'll wear this to play football but for going to games I'll stick to Nike thanks.

[GP]

#YouSpendWeSpend

[GP]

lol jk I'll buy one regardless

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don't care what happens, we've finally got rid of Bendtner. That's the most important part of this summer already taken care of.

[Globalgunner]

I don't care what happens, we've finally got rid of Bendtner. That's the most important part of this summer already taken care of.
Whats your problem?. Do you have something against people who occasionally hump taxis. Or you don`t like Danish

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ahikqmcPqg

Not to worry , we're still in the waiting period :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Whats your problem?. Do you have something against people who occasionally hump taxis. Or you don`t like Danish

I hate people that support Paddy Power.

[fakeyank]

Caught offside reckon we've agreed a deal with real of £48m (60m euro's) for Di Maria & Morata :coffee:

Caught offside? :lol:

Are they as credible as the metro?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They're as credible as GW.

[Niall_Quinn]

They're as credible as GW.

Incredible.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

They're as credible as GW.

GW :rose:

[Injury Time]

They're as credible as GW.

They won the 2014 FA cup too?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's easy to forget we did that.

[Munchies]

The combined fee for both Sanchez and Schneiderlin is thought to be £42million.

@francoispinet
https://twitter.com/francoispinet/statuses/482951156658745345

Our sources indicate that Alexis Sanchez and Morgan Schneiderlin are heading to Arsenal

Francois Pinet, who works Tele Mundial, has previously broken the news of Arsenal signing Olivier Giroud and Laurent Koscielny, along with other big money European transfers.

:pray:

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6duJrzSqSxM

[Niall_Quinn]

So we're signing Schneiderlin, Sanchez, Di Maria and Moreta?

[Munchies]

Morata can fuck off tbf, shit player :coffee:

Di Maria on the left
Sanchez up top
Schneiderlin instead of Arteta


---Ramsey---Schneiderlin
Feo---Ozil---Di Maria---
--------Sanchez------

Feo and Di Maria interchanging with Sanchez

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Yes I'm starting to hear the Sanchez and Schnierdelin stuff. It's starting to bubble up on social media and a few blogs - hoping this is real. Would be absolutely ecstatic in the club and Wenger if we pull this off but obviously given past results I won't be corking the champagne until I see it confirmed on Arsenal.com

God almighty, Sanchez has been one of the stars of WC and to have him in our team ........ well it just reflects our new status and firepower as one of the elite now when it comes to spending.

============Schniderlin==============

=======Ramsey============Ozil==========

Theo===========================Sanchez

==============Giroud==================


Subs: Podolski, Carzola, Oxlade, Wilshere, Rosicky, Campbell

Jizzworthy. :cloud9:



Sadly (or not depending on your view) I think if we do get Schindler's list it would mean one of Flamini or Arteta leaving. Flamini was always meant to be a stopgap for a season because we missed out on Bender last year but there were a few articles linking Arteta to a move back to Bilbao (to replace Herrera). Personally I'd want to retain Arteta simply because I think he's the better player and he's the type of experienced pro you need to keep in your squad for the youngsters to learn from.

[Munchies]

Damn your line up looks amazing!

PLEASE Wenger :pray:

And I'd personally get rid of Arteta. He's not getting any faster, and doesn't fit anywhere in our team. Flamini atleast is decent at a CDM role.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6duJrzSqSxM

That's no real indicator of quality, Gerald McClellan would look good in midfield up against Arteta

[McNamara That Ghost...]

So we're signing Schneiderlin, Sanchez, Di Maria and Moreta?

Benzema and Vidal too.

[Özim]

Benzema and Vidal too.

We're spoilt rotten tbh.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Benzema and Vidal too.

And the man from Del Monte.....

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Schindler's list I can take or leave but Sanchez would be amazing.

[I am invisible]

I really hope we're not just being teases with the Sanchez talk - he looks pretty close to the ideal attacker for the way we play.

I reckon Schneiderlin would also be a smart move for us - obviously someone mega like Pogba or Martinez would be the dream, but assuming that's not on the cards, then I reckon this guy probably ticks more boxes as a defensive midfielder than anyone else we've been linked with on that area so far?

[fakeyank]

None of the top players mentioned seems like real deal to me. We have the same shit every year.. Arsenal FC's transfer window does not start till Aug 31st.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Still somewhat randomly on the M'vila boat myself...not that I'd see it happening, but what can you see happening with any confidence as an Arsenal fan.

At this rate, singing anyone of the right age would be welcome in DM.

[Niall_Quinn]

That mega-pubber Van Gash is after Sanchez and the chavs are chasing Pogba, according to the Daily Child Rapist. If they end up getting our players somebody should be kicked in the balls. Probably Letters.

[Injury Time]

That mega-pubber Van Gash is after Sanchez and the chavs are chasing Pogba, according to the Daily Child Rapist. If they end up getting our players somebody should be kicked in the balls. Probably Letters.
Was the reason Letters give up the season ticket cos we were forming queues to kick him in the balls, just in case like? <_<

[I am invisible]

Nice one Letters.

[I am invisible]

Still somewhat randomly on the M'vila boat myself...not that I'd see it happening, but what can you see happening with any confidence as an Arsenal fan.

At this rate, singing anyone of the right age would be welcome in DM.
Have you been following M'Vila then, since he moved to whoever the hell he's playing for now? This is the first time I've heard him mentioned for ages...

[GP]

He's just signed for Inter.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Have you been following M'Vila then, since he moved to whoever the hell he's playing for now? This is the first time I've heard him mentioned for ages...

Have I been following the Russian league or wherever he is? :d Not really mate.....but I just presume he still has the requisite ability and won't cost us the 25 pieces of silver going rate that Southampton charge for parts of their well oiled machine.

His name has fallen into obscurity somewhat but I do think that is to do with simply playing off the radar. At least in part. Whoever we opt for I really don't see why the window should pass without us making a singing here.

[I am invisible]

Have I been following the Russian league or wherever he is? :d Not really mate.....but I just presume he still has the requisite ability and won't cost us the 25 pieces of silver going rate that Southampton charge for parts of their well oiled machine.

His name has fallen into obscurity somewhat but I do think that is to do with simply playing off the radar. At least in part. Whoever we opt for I really don't see why the window should pass without us making a singing here.
Well, at least there seem to be a few decent options being mentioned at the moment, and, more to the point, we're getting linked with most of them - feels like there's a real opportunity here to get at least one of Arteta or Flamini's long-term successors in this summer, and it'd be a shame to let that pass us by...

[Gooner23]

Well, at least there seem to be a few decent options being mentioned at the moment, and, more to the point, we're getting linked with most of them - feels like there's a real opportunity here to get at least one of Arteta or Flamini's long-term successors in this summer, and it'd be a shame to let that pass us by...

I think we should go for a Bender personally..

[selassie]

I really hope we're not just being teases with the Sanchez talk - he looks pretty close to the ideal attacker for the way we play.

I reckon Schneiderlin would also be a smart move for us - obviously someone mega like Pogba or Martinez would be the dream, but assuming that's not on the cards, then I reckon this guy probably ticks more boxes as a defensive midfielder than anyone else we've been linked with on that area so far?

I am still not 100% convinced Sanchez is on the market...Barca have not been as vocal about his availability as they were with Cesc.

Anyhow, if he is on the market I think whoever buys Sanchez will need to pay up in both transfer fee and wages, his stock is rising fast, he already had plenty of admirers prior to the world cup.

If we are in for him and he is interested I really hope we don't mess about with lowball offers. Sanchez is as good as we are going to get this summer, he's a top top class player and very versatile, I really want him here.

I still have slight reservations over Schneiderlin, he's a good player but I am not convinced he will represent an instant upgrade on Arteta. If the likes of Khedira or Bender are on the market then they should be our targets ahead of Schneiderlin.

[Globalgunner]

I am still not 100% convinced Sanchez is on the market...Barca have not been as vocal about his availability as they were with Cesc.

Anyhow, if he is on the market I think whoever buys Sanchez will need to pay up in both transfer fee and wages, his stock is rising fast, he already had plenty of admirers prior to the world cup.

If we are in for him and he is interested I really hope we don't mess about with lowball offers. Sanchez is as good as we are going to get this summer, he's a top top class player and very versatile, I really want him here.

I still have slight reservations over Schneiderlin, he's a good player but I am not convinced he will represent an instant upgrade on Arteta. If the likes of Khedira or Bender are on the market then they should be our targets ahead of Schneiderlin.

A 50 year old granddad would represent an upgrade on Arteta. You were not paying attention to our games last season I take it

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm in training to rant and rave on an unprecedented level. I have a very bad feeling that the easy assumption I had about us signing quality this summer is in the process of turning into oh look, we've signed fuck all apart from utter shit. It was a safe bet we'd sign quality, big quality. Tons of cash, first trophy in ages in the dusted down cabinet, Ozil. What else was there to do except build on it and push on? But the inactivity so far, the fundamental lack of credibility that goes with every press rumour associated with us. The Fabregas thing, is is a signal of massive intent, or part of an ongoing strategy to keep the money and piss on the fans? I'd have said no way to the latter, they just wouldn't, couldn't do it. Now? I know the World Cup isn't over yet, but I have a bad feeling about this.

[AFC Leveller]

http://twitter.com/Brodinho/status/483354671827140610/photo/1

[AFC Leveller]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrU4goWCAAAvny1.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

Who is he and are we definitely signing him?

[Marc Overmars]

I'm in training to rant and rave on an unprecedented level. I have a very bad feeling that the easy assumption I had about us signing quality this summer is in the process of turning into oh look, we've signed fuck all apart from utter shit. It was a safe bet we'd sign quality, big quality. Tons of cash, first trophy in ages in the dusted down cabinet, Ozil. What else was there to do except build on it and push on? But the inactivity so far, the fundamental lack of credibility that goes with every press rumour associated with us. The Fabregas thing, is is a signal of massive intent, or part of an ongoing strategy to keep the money and piss on the fans? I'd have said no way to the latter, they just wouldn't, couldn't do it. Now? I know the World Cup isn't over yet, but I have a bad feeling about this.

We have money and know it's there to be spent, however our strategy remains the same, frustratingly.

The only difference now is instead of beating around the bush for average players, we can we beat around the bush for top ones. I believe Ozil was a fluke born out of circumstance and I'll believe that until I see us deliver more premium players.

[Power n Glory]

Our search for a striker may be over now that Campbell is on the scene.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BraQ_i0CAAAibYC.jpg

third kit

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm waiting for the CL ninth Tuesday kit which looks really cool. But I'll probably buy all the others too.

[Munchies]

Bendtner has finally gone!

[Xhaka Can’t]

Why can't he turn up in Manchester or Chelsea?

[Injury Time]

Why can't he turn up in Manchester or Chelsea?

He can go clubbing anywhere he likes tbf #bigfish #littlefish #cardboardbox :dance:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Hopefully we never have to use the third kit.

[I am invisible]

Not keen on diagonal stripes - always looks like a sweet wrapper. Liking the home and and away shirts though.

[I am invisible]

Goalkeepers... been linked with two South American lads now - Osipna (Colombia / Nice) and Navas (Costa Rica / Levante) - both have looked pretty solid from what I've seen of them so far, and I don't think we'd have too much trouble getting them away from their clubs if we went for them? I know there was also a bit of talk about that Mexican keeper who's out of contract, but I'm not convinced about him - I think he let in more goals than anyone else in his division last season, whereas the other two were generally rated amongst the best (or as the best) in their respected leagues...

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

A 50 year old granddad would represent an upgrade on Arteta. You were not paying attention to our games last season I take it

Post of the week tbh

[I am invisible]

Wtf! The transfer window has been open for nearly 12 and a half hours now - where's all our signings?

[Xhaka Can’t]

They play for City, United and the Chavs now.

[selassie]

This is awful...but kind of quite funny...


http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/arsene-wenger-and-the-transfer-market/

[Özim]

This is awful...but kind of quite funny...


http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/arsene-wenger-and-the-transfer-market/

:lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Chelsea officially agree a fee with Atleti for Diego Costa. :sick:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Hope he brings his WC form to Chelsea.

[Niall_Quinn]

Hope he brings his WC form to Chelsea.

He'll certainly bring his diving and he's gone to the right place to perfect it.

[fakeyank]

The USA defenders are solid- Omar Gonzalez is a freaking beast. Beasley is also awesome. I'd have them signing for us, if as usual we dont go for the big boys.

[GP]

No

[fakeyank]

Yes

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes

He said no! What kind of a monster are you?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Fuck off

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

The USA defenders are solid- Omar Gonzalez is a freaking beast. Beasley is also awesome. I'd have them signing for us, if as usual we dont go for the big boys.

You can't be serious can you? Gonzalez I know little of but Beasley?? Really?

[fakeyank]

Looks like La Bouche is coming home..

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/02/arsenal-sign-12m-mathieu-debuchy-and-will-confirm-transfer-after-world-cup-4783479/

[Niall_Quinn]

Looks like La Bouche is coming home..

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/02/arsenal-sign-12m-mathieu-debuchy-and-will-confirm-transfer-after-world-cup-4783479/

Oh well, I suppose it's something. But get ready for more Sagna style moments on the right flank. We haven't moved on here, we've held ground at best.

[Penguin]

Looks like La Bouche is coming home..

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/02/arsenal-sign-12m-mathieu-debuchy-and-will-confirm-transfer-after-world-cup-4783479/

No quotes = bullshit

[Marc Overmars]

Wouldn't mind Debuchy in all honesty, don't think he's that bad and I'd like to think he'd improve in a better team.

[Globalgunner]

He is 28, not much scope for improvement there. Why replace a 31 year old with a 28 year old.
What happened to our slam dunk with Aurier, he is 22 and just as good if not better than Debuchy
Heard now that Vermaelen is a sure bet to United!
WTF is going on there at the Emirates?
I would really like to chokeslam some of the Motherfkrs running that place

[I am invisible]

No idea about Aurier - maybe it was never really on in the first place, and the gossip sites have just created a whole saga out of it because he tweeted a picture of himself in an Arsenal shirt?

We simply have to sign some defenders though - have to! If it's true that Vermaelen is going, then we can't go into the season with just 2 CBs, 1 junior RB and 1 GK. Well, most teams wouldn't anyway...

[Power n Glory]

We just don't make things easier for ourselves. A very rock solid defence last season. The sort of foundations that helped us mount a title challenge and we can't help but pick away it. I hope we're not selling Verm to United but when I hear £11m for the transfer fee, you just know those greedy sluts at our club will be wet for this sort of deal. I hope they prove me wrong. We've got a lot of work to do this summer. Many gaps to fill. I hope they have a plan in place.

[selassie]

We just don't make things easier for ourselves. A very rock solid defence last season. The sort of foundations that helped us mount a title challenge and we can't help but pick away it. I hope we're not selling Verm to United but when I hear £11m for the transfer fee, you just know those greedy sluts at our club will be wet for this sort of deal. I hope they prove me wrong. We've got a lot of work to do this summer. Many gaps to fill. I hope they have a plan in place.

My feelings too...it worries me because we have form for leaving gaping holes in the squad, look at the Striker situation over the past 2 windows.

[Xhaka Can’t]

They have a plan in place alright. So far we are £15-£17m in the black this summer just by not re-signing ex players.

You don't achieve results like that without planning meticulously.

[I am invisible]

Sounds like Jackson Martinez has been name-dropping us again - aware of talks, but no concrete offer, has been a gooner since he was a kid, and would definitely say 'yes' if we wanted him. Can't make out if they're new or old quotes though...

[I am invisible]

Also a bit of gossip around that Real are after James Rodriguez as their big summer signing, and that Di Maria could be the casualty. Don't know how much truth is in that, but it certainly sounds like the sort of bonkers thing Madrid would do - could be this summer's Bale and Özil?

[I am invisible]

Speaking of Madrid, and going off on a slight tangent, how did Isco and Illamarendi get on there in their first seasons? I've hardly heard them mentioned since they moved there?

[AFC Leveller]

They were both seen as the future of Spanish football but not only did they not feature much, they didnt make the world cup squad (not even close).

Great move then.

[I am invisible]

Would either of them be worth a cheeky bid then, or has their stock fallen so low over the last year that we wouldn't be interested any more?

[Marc Overmars]

Spain have a plethora of players in their positions so I wouldn't read too much into their absence from the World Cup squad, given how badly Spain bombed it will be guys like Isco and Illamarendi who they'll look to now. Very unrealistic targets tbh.

[Marc Overmars]

Sounds like Jackson Martinez has been name-dropping us again - aware of talks, but no concrete offer, has been a gooner since he was a kid, and would definitely say 'yes' if we wanted him. Can't make out if they're new or old quotes though...

He is a must get tbh.

Martinez and Sanchez. :cloud9:

Just pay whatever it takes.

[Özim]

Isco and Illamarendi featured a fair amount for Real, they won't be sold.

[Power n Glory]

Was surprised Isco was left out. Looks decent from what I've seen of him.

[I am invisible]

He is a must get tbh.

Martinez and Sanchez. :cloud9:

Just pay whatever it takes.
I have to say, before the WC I didn't really view him as being as good as some of the other big-name strikers that we were being linked with, but having watched a few of these guys in action now, I'd say he's probably looked the most natural, no-nonsense CF out of those targets (by which I mean there'd be no pissing around trying to convert him into a CF from another position, or where we'd have him in some elaborate system as a false 9, or where he's allowed to drift wide, while other players come central, etc)...

[I am invisible]

Haven't heard much about Isco since he moved, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the Real mob hadn't really taken to Illamarendi, and that there was even talk of sending him back to Sociedad as part of a swap for Griezmann? Not sure where Real would actually be able to fit Griezmann in, but stranger things have happened with that lot...

[Master Splinter]

I don't think Martinez is much of an improvement over a c-lister like Remy. He's certainly not worth £30m or whatever.

I'm pretty sure the Arsenal pining is regurgitated monthly too.

[I am invisible]

I don't think Martinez is much of an improvement over a c-lister like Remy. He's certainly not worth £30m or whatever.

I'm pretty sure the Arsenal pining is regurgitated monthly too.
At least someone loves us...

[Master Splinter]

At least someone loves us...

I must tell you, many players want to join us.

[Syn]

You go to heathrow, get a one way ticket to Paris. Play a bit more beach football in your blue briefs for a few hours, go to the football ground, ask to meet the president. You offer £50m for Cavani, then when the billionaire laughs in your face, you tell him to fuck off and rent a europcar. Drive down the coastline to Barcelona. Drop a £35m cheque for Sanchez. After they accept, you ring Alex Song to meet up for a drink, laugh at him throughout. Get back in your car and drive to Calais. Get some duty-free red. Take a ferry to Southampton, throw £35m in cash for Schneiderlin and Chambers, and drive back home, and figure out plans for the league trophy parade. All this could be done in 48 hours. Instead we'll piss about until 31st August and wait till we drop some league points before we act. Fucking Wenger ruining everyone's lives.

[Marc Overmars]

You go to heathrow, get a one way ticket to Monaco. Play a bit more beach football in your blue briefs for a few hours, go to the football ground, ask to meet the president. You offer £50m for Cavani, then when the billionaire laughs in your face, you tell him to fuck off and rent a europcar. Drive down the coastline to Barcelona. Drop a £35m cheque for Sanchez. After they accept, you ring Alex Song to meet up for a drink, laugh at him throughout. Get back in your car and drive to Calais. Get some duty-free red. Take a ferry to Southampton, throw £35m in cash for Schneiderlin and Chambers, and drive back home, and figure out plans for the league trophy parade. All this could be done in 48 hours. Instead we'll piss about until 31st August and wait till we drop some league points before we act. Fucking Wenger ruining everyone's lives.

Cavani plays for PSG.

[Syn]

Just edited as you said.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Moreover I am increasingly suspecting Cavani is not worth 50 million or that sort of money.... He has looked no better than Edin Djeko in the last year or so.....and Djeko gets quite a bit of stick on here.

Martinez I think is worth 30 million or not far off it. He can certainly finish, is nimble, mobile, reasonably quick and loves a dance celebration. I would still really like Bony, who is not world class but is reliable, scores all sorts of goals and you get the feeling you know what you'll get from him from game to game.

Isco is a fantastic player and Real will play the waiting game for him to come of age there but Illaremendi was never going to play much for Real with Alonso and Modric being deployed deep.

I actually think a small handful of Real players are available, but it will be for a fee similar to Ozil's....and I'm not sure that is going to be the norm after years of stacking notes in a shoe box under the bed.


If we get Debuchy (who is a reasonably good player albeit) I will laugh.

[Niall_Quinn]

You go to heathrow, get a one way ticket to Paris. Play a bit more beach football in your blue briefs for a few hours, go to the football ground, ask to meet the president. You offer £50m for Cavani, then when the billionaire laughs in your face, you tell him to fuck off and rent a europcar. Drive down the coastline to Barcelona. Drop a £35m cheque for Sanchez. After they accept, you ring Alex Song to meet up for a drink, laugh at him throughout. Get back in your car and drive to Calais. Get some duty-free red. Take a ferry to Southampton, throw £35m in cash for Schneiderlin and Chambers, and drive back home, and figure out plans for the league trophy parade. All this could be done in 48 hours. Instead we'll piss about until 31st August and wait till we drop some league points before we act. Fucking Wenger ruining everyone's lives.

I think you buy two drinks and offer one of them to the guy behind Song, then laugh at him for the duration.

[Niall_Quinn]

I must tell you, many players want to join us.

I must tell you also, we almost signed many players.

[Niall_Quinn]

Just edited as you said.

I guess it still must have been fairly embarrassing nonetheless?

[Niall_Quinn]

Moreover I am increasingly suspecting Cavani is not worth 50 million or that sort of money

I can confirm that, he's worth a quarter of it at best. But the PSG and Monaco set won't play unless they can pay several times over the odds.

[Syn]

I guess it still must have been fairly embarrassing nonetheless?

Certainly was for my cousin, but not for me.

When people say Cavani isn't worth £50m or Martinez isn't worth £30m or whatever, I can't understand how you make that judgement. We have no idea what's good value and bad value any more. Chelsea had started to ruin the curve and then these Monaco/PSG/Cavani-buying people have come along and wrecked it. Even the living stealing failure that is Ozil will seem like good value if we get a few more trophies in the next 5 years to add to the FA cup.

Think the likelihood of landing a biggie is dependent again on a slow start to the season and Cesc scoring a few for Chelsea. That'll create a toxic atmosphere in the home games that might be vital for us to throw some money around. And the big money signing might not be in the area we need. Could be another lightweight genius non-scorey no.10 for all we know. Just have to hope the deadline day options involve a few top players in limbo.

[Niall_Quinn]

Certainly was for my cousin, but not for me.

When people say Cavani isn't worth £50m or Martinez isn't worth £30m or whatever, I can't understand how you make that judgement. We have no idea what's good value and bad value any more. Chelsea had started to ruin the curve and then these Monaco/PSG/Cavani-buying people have come along and wrecked it. Even the living stealing failure that is Ozil will seem like good value if we get a few more trophies in the next 5 years to add to the FA cup.

Think the likelihood of landing a biggie is dependent again on a slow start to the season and Cesc scoring a few for Chelsea. That'll create a toxic atmosphere in the home games that might be vital for us to throw some money around. And the big money signing might not be in the area we need. Could be another lightweight genius non-scorey no.10 for all we know. Just have to hope the deadline day options involve a few top players in limbo.

Hardly any of them are worth anything judging by this world cup. But true enough, transfer fees are now pick a number because there's no limit on what some clubs can throw about, despite the money grabbing efforts of UEFA. I really hope we don't lose to Crystal Palace, 4th place could come down to a single point this season so 3 points dropped in the opener, even if we do end up signing Kalou as a result, would be a blow. Although not as big a blow as signing Kalou.

I hope some trillionaire comes along and buys Crewe, signs up everybody and changes the name of the club to the Rolf Harris Thrusters. That would put where football and the transfer market is today in a proper context. Even so, our lot have hoarded a pile of cash so they better spend some of it. Or else I'm going to put up a very strongly worded post here on GW.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Cavani hasn't looked a 50 million quid player since he was at Napoli at any level.....international, Champions league or domestic. For that matter, once upon a time Schevchenko looked like a 50 million quid player in the Italian league but turns out he wasn't over here.

For almost 200 minutes now I have seen him stumble about the field against Kenneth Omeruo, Chelsea's academy 4th/5th choice CB and not get anywhere near scoring and though I have publicly said Omeruo is a good player, there have been far too many big games from him like this. Even out of the shadow of his royal highness Zlatan.


That being said, I'd still fancy having him, but breaking our transfer record, again, for this guy for that price is a seriously risky business and not a mistake a club like Arsenal can easily recover from as we are intent on running ourselves properly.

I'd sooner just sign Sanchez and Wilfried Bony for the same price.....and that is all in the unlikely occurrence that PSG would even sell Cavani for 50million!

[Niall_Quinn]

We should offer PSG Diaby for £350mill. Obviously they are washing cash and they'd be safe with a deal for Diaby because nobody could say he wasn't worth it as he'd never play.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

This Vermelean to United thing really has some legs to it. 12 million seems to be the latest offer.

Though I wouldn't be too gutted if we immediately reinvested that into Lovren as 3rd choice CB. Less injury prone and has been playing better the past few years.

[I am invisible]

We'd still need another CB on top of that though - I suppose we could just about scrape by with 3 again, but 4 would be better...

[Niall_Quinn]

Very positive window so far, absolutely no rumours about us selling Ozil and Ramsey to the gypos. It may not happen at this rate.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrjUh68IYAE8UFM.png

[Marc Overmars]

Puma. :bow:

Germans. :bow:

[Özim]

This summer is just going to be a summer of more of the same (next summer too and the summer after that), but alas people will keep believing this is the summer we finally wake up and realise we need to spend money on quality players preferably before pre-season to become genuine challengers for the big prizes. Clubs serious about signing a player don't spend all summer wasting their time on a fruitless chase, they make it happen.

I'd love thing to be different, but that's the way life is.

My advice is to come back on August 31st to see what sh*t is going down.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

God quoting the Metro.....but wish this is true about him not wanting to be part of Suarez deal.....come on Alexis, time to come home.......

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/02/arsenal-will-offer-alexis-sanchez-130000-a-week-to-make-gunners-transfer-4784891/

[Niall_Quinn]

Signed somebody:
http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/02/arsenal-raid-west-ham-to-sign-england-under-16-midfielder-ben-sheaf-4784662/

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Moreover I am increasingly suspecting Cavani is not worth 50 million or that sort of money....

Really didn't have to say anything more.

Another glorified pub teamer tbh.

If we pay as much as half of that £60 mil being touted as his value, we'd have been massively ripped off.

[Özim]

Signed somebody:
http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/02/arsenal-raid-west-ham-to-sign-england-under-16-midfielder-ben-sheaf-4784662/

Good news he's a wonderkid and not an ace this time, bodes well.

Also he's a midfielder one of our weakest areas.

[Niall_Quinn]

Good news he's a wonderkid and not an ace this time, bodes well.

Also he's a midfielder one of our weakest areas.

Fact is we signed somebody. It means they found a way to get past Stan's security and grab the chequebook. This is good news. Maybe it was like Inception. Maybe Dick Law and his team went 3 levels deep on Stan's arse.

[ARightTouch]

Tbh getting Feo back and having Joel Campbell will feel like 2 new signings...and that will be Wengers excuse not to spend any serious money :coffee:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Debuchy has removed all references to playing for Newcastle on his official twitter account.
The word is that we have agreed a £12m fee for him and it will be announced after France's involvement in the World Cup has ended.

[Dein-machine]

Really enjoyed this world cup - been some great games with late drama & I think the "no easy games in international football" quote has come to the fore more than ever.
Looking at the way the teams have played, many resorting to a longer ball approach with quite a few goals coming from the long diagonal ball, makes me wonder whether the Barca & Spanish effect has moved on. The best players in the world Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Bale followed by the new kids on the block Neymar, Sanchez, Hernandez -they all have pace & the will to get past defenders. This is what we missed in a massive way last year especially when Theo got injured. However Theo is always inujured so we shoudl not be expecting him & only him to give us this ingredient next year. A Sanchez, Di Maria or a Griezman is a MUST for us as a team. Ozil will come alive with the options they will give him, Rambo will score a hatful with late runs into the box to score of crosses from these guys & Giroud can only benefit in the same way. Wumger has to act here or I fear another year of Giroud bashing & waiting for Ozil to come to the party.
If this is the way forward for many teams, we also need to heed the warning. Merts done a great job last year but he's extremely slow & getting slower - Should sound Madrid out about Varane, great partnership for France with Kos.

[Niall_Quinn]

Debuchy has removed all references to playing for Newcastle on his official twitter account.
The word is that we have agreed a £12m fee for him and it will be announced after France's involvement in the World Cup has ended.

Does he think nobody will remember he plays for Newcastle?

[AFC Leveller]

according to Ballague, both scousers and cheats want sanchez to be part of the deal.

[Niall_Quinn]

according to Ballague, both scousers and cheats want sanchez to be part of the deal.

I would hope Sanchez isn't keen to be used as a makeweight in a bigger deal. Bet you the druggies try to run the price on us and put us out of the running.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I would hope Sanchez isn't keen to be used as a makeweight in a bigger deal. Bet you the druggies try to run the price on us and put us out of the running.

Heard "somewhere" that he didn't want to be part of a make weight deal to 'pool

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Metro really cranking it up now.......

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/03/arsenal-make-23-8million-transfer-offer-for-real-madrid-star-sami-khedira-4785917/

Wouldn't mind it to be true.....40 odd mil for him and Debaucy.....now let's get Sanchez and I say Remy, if Verm goes.....get Lovren with what we receive and we will still be under the apparent 100 mil war chest.....Wumger must have at least one cost saving loanee in mind

[Gooner23]

Metro really cranking it up now.......

http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/03/arsenal-make-23-8million-transfer-offer-for-real-madrid-star-sami-khedira-4785917/

Wouldn't mind it to be true.....40 odd mil for him and Debaucy.....now let's get Sanchez and I say Remy, if Verm goes.....get Lovren with what we receive and we will still be under the apparent 100 mil war chest.....Wumger must have at least one cost saving loanee in mind

Khedira and Sanchez? Na that's too good to be true!

[Syn]

Unsure about Sam Keds. Rather than spending that amount on a fat crock, we might be able to clone a younger version of Flamini. We don't need any talent at the DM position, just need someone to be Ramsey's bitch, doing the cleaning up. Need to contact Christian Bale to link us up with Tesla.

[selassie]

Sounds like various others are picking up the Khedira bid, the Indy are normally very reliable.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/sami-khedira-to-arsenal-gunners-make-238m-offer-for-real-madrid-midfielder-as-mesut-ozil-persuades-him-to-move-to-the-emirates--reports-9582937.html

[Munchies]

Unsure about Sam Keds. Rather than spending that amount on a fat crock, we might be able to clone a younger version of Flamini. We don't need any talent at the DM position, just need someone to be Ramsey's bitch, doing the cleaning up. Need to contact Christian Bale to link us up with Tesla.

Bouba Diop ? :coffee:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Van Bommel.

[Munchies]

‏@BarcaChief

BREAKING from @ellarguero : #LFC and #FCB reach an agreement for 90 million Euros #SUAREZ

£71.4m

[Munchies]

Debuchy favouriting tweets about Arsenal!

https://twitter.com/MatDebuchy/favorites

Lol

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m09vj9t0q21qd2kxpo1_500.gif

[Munchies]

Meanwhile in Brazil..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrpixQgIAAER4E8.jpg

[The Emirates Gallactico]

He's wearing the (old) Arsenal kit which means he's on official business.


Cheeky bid for Veron on the cards? :unsure:

[Marc Overmars]

Why did Ferguson buy Veron?

[Munchies]

Why did Ferguson buy Veron?

No idea, £28m back in 01 or so was a huge amount of money though!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

A motley crew if I ever saw one. Wenger's trip over there has really been bizarre.

[Munchies]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/01/article-0-1F49D59B00000578-538_634x632.jpg

[Japan Shaking All Over]

More noise this morning on BBC about a bid of 23 mil from us for Khedira and various papers saying we have bid for Sanchez.....typically low bids by today's standards but if we could get them in then I think we would have done well.....need a striker still

[Marc Overmars]

Di Maria linked with United. :sick:

[Özim]

Di Maria linked with United. :sick:

Hopefully BS, the guy has been unplayable, can't see Real wanting to sell.

[Ralpheroo72]

Have we signed Kalou yet?

[Gooner23]

Have we signed Kalou yet?

No but Mexes is on his way.

[ARightTouch]

I haven't heard anything about signing Kim Kallstrom permanently, I assume this isn't going to happen then?

Such a shame after the impact he made :doh:

Gl Kimbo hope you enjoyed your 6 month holiday in London!

[Marc Overmars]

Sky Sports are reporting the Suarez deal could be done as early as this weekend, but significantly for us perhaps, any deal for Sanchez will be done separately.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Looking like debuchy is done. Also Sanchez' agent has started following arsenal on twitter along with Ozil, Cazorla, giroud and a couple of our other players.....

[Munchies]

Ashley Williams signs a new contract with Swansea

:rose:

:lol:

[sibreen]

We've been linked to Di Maria by some randoms, but no news recently on an out-and-out striker.
So, it looks super-incredibly likely our line-up (front six) is going to be:

Sanchez

Di Maria - Ozil - Walcott

Khedeira - Ramsey

[Munchies]

http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/10471894_275809119272141_1124262811_n.jpg

Getting ready for pre-season #stretch #jog #run

:bow:

[AFC Leveller]

Khedira is crap, not what need.

Debuchy, Sanchez and Schneiderlin would represent a decent summer's work.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

The Pre-pre-season. Fuhk me Rambo, you're already topping the the distance covered charts....

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Khedira is crap, not what need.

Debuchy, Sanchez and Schneiderlin would represent a decent summer's work.

I think that will depend on who leaves and we will still be down a CF as Bendtner (I know, I know) has departed. It will represent an average summer's work but not great.

Sanogo really should go out on loan but I suppose Joe Campbell may effectively be replacing the great Dane.

[AFC Leveller]

We pissed about last summer with the Huguain and Suarez deals and ended up with Sanogo and if we are not careful the same thing could happen this time around. Why dont the club just get on with it and sign the players we want/need? get Sanchez in, get Debuchy, get Schneiderlin and show some intent.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Silly really. If we had just offered the 50 million biteattack would have cost, we could be making a 20-30 million profit on him this summer and have even more leverage over Sanchez.

[AFC Leveller]

I think that will depend on who leaves and we will still be down a CF as Bendtner (I know, I know) has departed. It will represent an average summer's work but not great.

Sanogo really should go out on loan but I suppose Joe Campbell may effectively be replacing the great Dane.

Yeah i did say decent and the players i mentioned would push us closer to the top 3. Debuchy for Sagna wont be the difference beween 4th and 1st because afterall he is only a RB but Sanchez instead of Giroud and Schneiderlin instead of Arteta means two positions are significantly improved.

Remy and Bony would be fantastic too.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Not convinced that Sanchez can be our CF to be honest.... At least not starting in that position.

Losing Sagna places even greater pressure on signing a CB as well as a RB as Wenger would be ahead of Debuchy as an emergency CB.

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah I'm not sure about Sanchez up top, in Giroud's role at least, will work. However he could easily operate across the front line and certainly take some of the burden off Giroud by playing with him. His finishing has been quite clinical over the past 12 months so if we don't sign a traditional CF then it's a pretty damn good alternative.

[selassie]

Khedira is crap, not what need.

Debuchy, Sanchez and Schneiderlin would represent a decent summer's work.

Eh? Khedira isn't crap.

I can't believe some on here want Schneiderlin over Khedira...honestly...?

Khedira is proven at the highest level, he can operate both as a box to box or defensive shield at a high level,. he also has an unbelievable engine. When fit he is a regular starter for Germany and was for Real too.

Schneiderlin has had one fairly good season in PL..yet folks on here want him over an established international/cl class midfielder???!!!

[Syn]

It's true. Khedira definitely is the more established player. But there are maybe fitness concerns over a dodgy knee. I see Schneiderlin as a really good fit here - his fitness is great, he's younger, already used to this league and would be a more defensive player which allows Ramsey to do whatever he wants.

Not sure Wenger is interested though, and even if he is, we'd have to pay a near Lallana/Shaw fee for him which we won't be prepared to do. Now that Southampton have got £60m from player sales they are under much less pressure to sell. We should've moved early if we wanted him.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I'm a little dumbfounded at the Schneiderlin love too. Decent player but I am surprised how willing some are to shell out 25 mill on him, though I realise that is the Southampton going rate.

And Sammy Boy (The German not the lesbian) can definitely play.

[Marc Overmars]

Southampton reject an 18m bid from Liverpool for Lovren.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Thank the lord.

Have to say, I'm starting to feel like the worst of GW for some of our transfers rumours. Ryan fucking Bertrand. Fuck off.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

:lol: I'd take him!

[I am invisible]

I'm a little dumbfounded at the Schneiderlin love too. Decent player but I am surprised how willing some are to shell out 25 mill on him, though I realise that is the Southampton going rate.

And Sammy Boy (The German not the lesbian) can definitely play.
Either would be welcome at this point.

In support of Schneiderlin, I'm sure I read that he's been statistically the best defensive midfielder in the Prem for two years running now, in that he's made more tackles and interceptions than anyone else in that position in both seasons? He's not a flashy player, but he's got a good engine on him, he's a decent passer, and, most importantly, he looks alert and gets the job done. Don't know if I'd say he was a £25m+ player, but he's got a lot going in his favour.

Good that we seem to be sounding out a variety of options this summer, and not pinning all our hopes on one player...

[ARightTouch]

Chelsea
In: Diego Costa (Atlético Madrid, £32m), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona, £27m).

Hull City
In: Jake Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), Robert Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m).

Liverpool
In: Adam Lallana (Southampton, £25m), Emre Can (Bayer Leverkusen, £9.75m), Rickie Lambert (Southampton, £4m).

Manchester City
In: Fernando (Porto, £12m), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal).

Manchester United
In: Luke Shaw (Southampton, £30m rising to £31m), Ander Herrera (Athletic Bilbao, £28.8m),

Newcastle United
In: Siem de Jong (Ajax, £6m), Ayoze Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), Jack Colback (Sunderland).

Arsenal
In: None. :doh:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Southampton reject an 18m bid from Liverpool for Lovren.

How the hell do they need another CB? Do we trump that? 18mil plus for third choice, doubt it

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Because our defence isn't all that good, shockingly.

Skrtel is inconsistent at best. Agger is made of glass. Sakho I like, but to say there's a mistake in him is an understatement. Ilori is unproven. Wisdom is actually decent but relatively inexperienced. Kolo is Kolo. Kelly is dead. Enrique is dead. Johnson may as well be dead. Flanagan is alright but hardly amazing; the perfect squad player, mind.

Lovren is good, don't get me wrong. But £20m+ is just :sick:

[Injury Time]

Chelsea
In: Diego Costa (Atlético Madrid, £32m), Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona, £27m).

Hull City
In: Jake Livermore (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), Robert Snodgrass (Norwich City, £7m).

Liverpool
In: Adam Lallana (Southampton, £25m), Emre Can (Bayer Leverkusen, £9.75m), Rickie Lambert (Southampton, £4m).

Manchester City
In: Fernando (Porto, £12m), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal).

Manchester United
In: Luke Shaw (Southampton, £30m rising to £31m), Ander Herrera (Athletic Bilbao, £28.8m),

Newcastle United
In: Siem de Jong (Ajax, £6m), Ayoze Perez (Tenerife, £1.5m), Jack Colback (Sunderland).

Arsenal
In: None. :doh:
We've signed Nonedoh? :patrice:

[Gooner23]

We've signed Nonedoh? :patrice:

Why haven't we signed Livermore and Snodgrass ffs

[GP]

Why haven't we signed Livermore and Snodgrass ffs

Or Joey Barton?

#WengerOut

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Yeah I'm not sure about Sanchez up top, in Giroud's role at least, will work. However he could easily operate across the front line and certainly take some of the burden off Giroud by playing with him. His finishing has been quite clinical over the past 12 months so if we don't sign a traditional CF then it's a pretty damn good alternative.

I don't see Sanchez as the person to challenge Giroud but want us to pay what is necessary to land him and then have a go at bringing in Remy, a cheap good option

Would give us

CF Giroud, Remy, Yaya

CF but can play wide Sanchez, Feo, Polodski, Remy, Campbell?

More than enough talent there?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Either would be welcome at this point.

In support of Schneiderlin, I'm sure I read that he's been statistically the best defensive midfielder in the Prem for two years running now, in that he's made more tackles and interceptions than anyone else in that position in both seasons? He's not a flashy player, but he's got a good engine on him, he's a decent passer, and, most importantly, he looks alert and gets the job done. Don't know if I'd say he was a £25m+ player, but he's got a lot going in his favour.

Good that we seem to be sounding out a variety of options this summer, and not pinning all our hopes on one player...

Very fair argument mate. I've heard similar noises and I was impressed by his compilation video against us. I do however, like you seem to suggest, think there are superior players for that amount around, albeit NOT proven in the premiership. The Lovren negotiations puts into doubt though that we could even get him for 25 million. Whatever happens Wenger really needs to sign the solution this summer...no more need to dither about. We've had a year of the cheap option in Flamini, however useful he can be.

Ironically Lovren and Sanchez are both players I wanted us to sign a couple of years ago.

[Niall_Quinn]

We've signed Hugo Keto, a powerful and pacey U19 Finnish goalkeeper.

[PGFC]

Not now Keto, you fool.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We've signed Hugo Keto, a powerful and pacey U19 Finnish goalkeeper.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2681172/Hugo-Keto-signs-Arsenal-Gunners-beat-Liverpool-young-Finland-goalkeeper.html

18 years old and we beat Liverpool to the transfer despite the player being a boyhood Liverpool fan. So much for RAWK's belief of players being more attracted to Liverpool than Arsenal. :rolleyes:

Very highly rated apparently and said to be the next Courtois. :cloud9:

Wouldn't be too surprised if he's Number 2 next season.

[ARightTouch]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2681172/Hugo-Keto-signs-Arsenal-Gunners-beat-Liverpool-young-Finland-goalkeeper.html

18 years old and we beat Liverpool to the transfer despite the player being a boyhood Liverpool fan. So much for RAWK's belief of players being more attracted to Liverpool than Arsenal. :rolleyes:

Very highly rated apparently and said to be the next Courtois. :cloud9:

Wouldn't be too surprised if he's Number 2 next season.

A U19 Finnish GK to be our No2 next season? I know a No2 generally doesn't do much but what if Szszesny gets injured or suspended? He will actually have to play!

This is when we realise how lucky we were to have Fabianski as our deputy for a last few years.

However it feels good to hear of the first signing, and probable second in Debuchy :)

[The Emirates Gallactico]

A U19 Finnish GK to be our No2 next season? I know a No2 generally doesn't do much but what if Szszesny gets injured or suspended? He will actually have to play!

This is when we realise how lucky we were to have Fabianski as our deputy for a last few years.

However it feels good to hear of the first signing, and probable second in Debuchy :)

Well I've just discovered that the Mail article contains some incorrect facts (never happened before in a Mail article tbh). He's only 16, not 18, so yeah ......... no chance he's going to be number two then. Straight to academy more likely. At least I hope so.


Still though, he's already meant to be 6ft 3in (assuming this isn't also wrong from the Mail) so think how tall he's going to be once he stops growing! We've got a giant on our hands.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Or maybe he has stopped growing a year ago, as I did when I was 15! I know it isn't necessarily the norm but it does happen. Anyway, this is even more underwhelming than the English lad we signed the other day!

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Letters also stopped growing when he was 15 months

[Japan Shaking All Over]

BBC reporting about our progresses interesting in Sanchez....let's get this done

[Injury Time]

L
A U19 Finnish GK to be our No2 next season? I know a No2 generally doesn't do much but what if Szszesny gets injured or suspended? He will actually have to play!

This is when we realise how lucky we were to have Fabianski as our deputy for a last few years.

However it feels good to hear of the first signing, and probable second in Debuchy :)
First signing? What about the Greek kid, and the West Ham kid?

[ARightTouch]

First signing? What about the Greek kid, and the West Ham kid?

Exactly, and actually this keeper is more of the same

Still awaiting first major signing. However it sounds like debuchy is pretty much done so this make us already one step ahead of previous summers

[Niall_Quinn]

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a433/qwerty12343/tumblr_mroabl6KQT1ry2852o1_500_zps6b8ba979.jpg

Some lucky escapes there...

[Master Splinter]

Bernard is completely unproven.

Jovetic is injury-prone.

Higuain is shit.

Fellaini isn't a footballer.

Rooney is past it. And fat.

Suarez is mental.

Nothing wrong with a Bender though.


Fans are fucking stupid.


I've already seen this year's version:

WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH no Remy, no Balotelli, no Frankcesc Lampregas, no Bony, no Quaresma.


The fact that people actually though Fellaini was a midfield solution for a number of years just sums it all up.

[Injury Time]

Exactly, and actually this keeper is more of the same

Still awaiting first major signing. However it sounds like debuchy is pretty much done so this make us already one step ahead of previous summers

Psst Sagna left us, so even benefit of doubt that Dabutcher is of equal ability etc I don't see the progress :shrug: perhaps I expected us to nail down our own core players for once, then build on that...but where is the logic in that when we can cut little bit wage bill and rummage in the leftovers and delicate mentalist flowers bin.
Tbh if we could get the players we have to just find that 2% as a collective like Costa Rica, USA, plus a bit of depth in cover we would be a shoe in for 4th, if we could get some game changers like Rosicky, Theo and Ox (the fit versions not the dead ones), you know a Plan B we could hit the dizzy hights of 3rd.

[Fist of Lehmann]

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a433/qwerty12343/tumblr_mroabl6KQT1ry2852o1_500_zps6b8ba979.jpg

WELCOME Milner
WELCOME Barry
WELCOME Kalou
WELCOME Rolf Harris
WELCOME Cripps

[Power n Glory]

Bernard is completely unproven.

Jovetic is injury-prone.

Higuain is shit.

Fellaini isn't a footballer.

Rooney is past it. And fat.

Suarez is mental.

Nothing wrong with a Bender though.


Fans are fucking stupid.


I've already seen this year's version:

WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH no Remy, no Balotelli, no Frankcesc Lampregas, no Bony, no Quaresma.


The fact that people actually though Fellaini was a midfield solution for a number of years just sums it all up.

Yes, that's what's really frustrating! Year after year of fans getting it wrong. ;)

[GP]

Letters also stopped growing when he was 15 months

Inches

[Munchies]

Done deal: Markovic signs for Liverpool. €25m

who?

[Injury Time]

Done deal: Markovic signs for Liverpool. €25m

who?

Think there was a film about being him? :shrug:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Done deal: Markovic signs for Liverpool. €25m

who?

Serbian quick wingery forwardy strikery type. Meant to be the next big thing.... along with the 50 other ones with that tag.

Plays for Benfica. 20.

[GP]

Where are Liverpool getting all this money?


Oh yeah...

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Letters also stopped growing when he was 15 months

:haha:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Done deal: Markovic signs for Liverpool. €25m

who?

Do you remember when Spurs sold a Ferrari and bought 8 bangers?

Well..

[Globalgunner]

Do you remember when Spurs sold a Ferrari and bought 8 bangers?

Well..
Make that a Bugatti Veyron in exchange for 8 Ford Transits

[Penguin]

Think there was a film about being him? :shrug:

:lol:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Where are Liverpool getting all this money?


Oh yeah...

Which can only mean there is only one home for Sanchez to come back
to......

[AKBapologist]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10949866/Arsenal-close-in-on-Lars-Bender-Alexis-Sanchez-and-Mathieu-Debuchy-in-60million-transfer-swoop.html
This is like some parallel universe

[Marc Overmars]

Come on Wenget. :pray:

[Xhaka Can’t]

If that happens I won't punch Letters in the fanny.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Oh wow, if we do get Bender in addition to Sanchez and Debauchy it would have been an amazing summer. Can't criticise Wenger at all.

Add in a backup GK and possibly a CB if we let Vermelean go then it's almost perfect.

Think Flamini will probably have to leave if Bender comes in with Arteta serving as the backup. Probably can get a million for him from some Ligue 1 team.


Wenger :bow::bow:

Always had faith.

[Munchies]

Bender is mentioned every year now..

Wot bout Kalou ?

[fakeyank]

Oh wow, if we do get Bender in addition to Sanchez and Debauchy it would have been an amazing summer. Can't criticise Wenger at all.

Add in a backup GK and possibly a CB if we let Vermelean go then it's almost perfect.

Think Flamini will probably have to leave if Bender comes in with Arteta serving as the backup. Probably can get a million for him from some Ligue 1 team.


Wenger :bow::bow:

Always had faith.
We haven't signed anyone yet.. last year at the same time, we had signed Higuain and Suarez

[ARightTouch]

Oh wow, if we do get Bender in addition to Sanchez and Debauchy it would have been an amazing summer. Can't criticise Wenger at all.


IF!!!!

Ther will be two miracles if this happens

1. We would have spent 60m without selling anyone
2. We would done our business before the season started

Make it happen wenger....all* will be forgiven

*most

[Injury Time]

We haven't signed anyone yet.. last year at the same time, we had signed Higuain and Suarez
Strange for us to loan them out though :unsure:

[Zerlathon]

Although I am trying to be as optimistic I can, I am still taking the media reports with a pinch of salt. Although I do get a "feeling" that we may finally be able to say that we had transfer window come the beginning of the season (I do remember saying that this time last year though). I'm wondering if this has anything to do with Puma being the new sponsors, and they are pushing for us to make some real signings.

At least for me, the story relating to Bender is a regurgitation of stories past and I do not see us getting him. However, if we do get Sanchez and Debauchy then that (to me) is a real sign of intent. So if we are in for him and have those 2 signings wrapped up, then it makes us a considerably more appealing team to any other potential targets. So in that regard it would make any potential approach for Players like Bender more likely.

[I am invisible]

Bender is mentioned every year now..

Wot bout Kalou ?

And Sebastien Frey? We do need a new keeper...

[selassie]

And Sebastien Frey? We do need a new keeper...

Obafemi Martins as the new striker and Phillipe Mexes as back up CB. :tiphat:

[cricketsi]

Obafemi Martins as the new striker and Phillipe Mexes as back up CB. :tiphat:
As long as Hatem Trabelsi is available to fill the void left by Sagna's departure.

[AFC Leveller]

Obafemi Martins as the new striker and Phillipe Mexes as back up CB. :tiphat:

I dunno, Martins is too young for us to rely on and we ned experience. I'd go for Trezeguet.

[Munchies]

Emmanuel Frimpong is in Austria to seal a move to Sturm Graz. (Source: @oluwashina of BBC World Service)

:lol:

[selassie]

:lol:

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/stay-dench-or-get-frimpong-d-26.png

[Syn]

Emmanuel Frimpong is in Austria to seal a move to Sturm Graz. (Source: @oluwashina of BBC World Service)

:lol:

Wouldnt have guessed that as a likely move in his career path. This actually suggests he's making an effort to stay a professional footballer. Maybe he's leaving his embarrassing antics behind.

Dagenham & Redbridge, sure. Austria's a bit hipstery innit?

[Munchies]

Most of the ITKs on twitter are saying Sanchez is done!

:popcorn:

[Marc Overmars]

The Independent are reporting Barca accepted an offer of 32m.

Not going to allow myself to get excited about this one just yet..

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Geoff :lol:

Awful Jeff.

[AFC Leveller]

Charles Aranguiz (Chile) really impressed me in this world cup esp against Brazil where he played right sided defence.

And his Pel was the best ive ever seen.

[AFC Leveller]

The Independent are reporting Barca accepted an offer of 32m.

Not going to allow myself to get excited about this one just yet..

They say "according to reports" which means you sould add a bit of salt to it.

Would be a huge coup for us though, genuinely world class striker, good age too.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If we have to sign a midget that ain't Messi, then Sanchez is as good as any.....

Not sure why we favour DeDouche over Aurier who earlier in the summer was 'a done deal' according to the twitter twits / ITK / whatever the hell you want to call them.

[Munchies]

@MAmpov10

Re: Sanchez It's from a reputable source, I assure you that. Player subject to a medical. If it falls through, you can kill me. #AFC

Medical either today or first thing tomorrow morning. Official announcement could be as early as Friday but doubtful for the 10th July.


https://twitter.com/MAmpov10/status/486152879993278465

Haven't heard of this ITK before, but he said we can kill him if it doesn't happen.. :lol:

[Munchies]

Season highlights:

Santi:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-qxWjK0k2o0

[Munchies]

Chesney:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dpf72YyItCo

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Someone just pull the plug on twitter.

[Marc Overmars]

Cashley signs for Roma.

Should have brought him home tbh.

[GP]

Cashley signs for Roma.

Should have brought him home tbh.

How about no?

[Özil's Panoramic View]

The great Kalou rejected our advances yet?

[Xhaka Can’t]

https://twitter.com/MAmpov10/status/486152879993278465

Haven't heard of this ITK before, but he said we can kill him if it doesn't happen.. :lol:

I think it is Letters.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Cashley signs for Roma.

Should have brought him home tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV1LzXf1TKQ