Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

We'll disagree on Fabregas. He doesn't need several touches on the ball to make something happen.

As for Ozil, he needs to prove he's the type of player worth building around. As said before, he's the one that should be adding to other team members game, not the other way around. He should be imposing himself on the squad, demanding the ball and taking control. Not hiding.

Fabregas is about 10 seconds ahead of 99% of all professional footballers. The only time he took more than a few touches was when he could mug his opponent off and capitalise on that very situation. You'll hardly find a more brilliant midfielder. Let's tell it as it is.

I just hope the special one falls out with him because Fabregas is taking all his shine and he gets out of there. Pretty much wishing on a star though.

How long before people twist Cesc's words into Jose being a better manager that Arsene....


We didn't want him. Wenger didn't want him. The second father figure talk goes out the window with that sort of rejection.
:d :lol: :d :lol:

[Munchies]

lol Fabregas put this video on his page, but then deleted it after he got the usual 'fuck u' messages :lol:

https://grabyo.com/g/v/9eUyPCoaazG

'Hi Chelsea fans.... honour to play for this great club... see you at the Bridge'

[GP]

Fuck him. He's a whore in the same mould as nasri and Cole.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Sickening..... a little like watching a mate Frenchie your ex.....

[Ollie the Optimist]

as someone on twitter just said

when we need fabregas the most, he forced his way out, now when he needs us most, we turned him away.


i really don't think it was the right decision but i hope Arsene has something special lined up for us.


oh and by the way, sagna has confirmed he is leaving us

[Munchies]

Fuck him. He's a whore in the same mould as nasri and Cole.

Fucking lol :haha:

[Power n Glory]

Fabregas is about 10 seconds ahead of 99% of all professional footballers. The only time he took more than a few touches was when he could mug his opponent off and capitalise on that very situation. You'll hardly find a more brilliant midfielder. Let's tell it as it is.

I just hope the special one falls out with him because Fabregas is taking all his shine and he gets out of there. Pretty much wishing on a star though.

How long before people twist Cesc's words into Jose being a better manager that Arsene....


:d :lol: :d :lol:

Exactly. Not even sure why it's up for debate. He'd never fail to spot the best passing option and when he took more touches, it was because he was buying time for other players to make runs or spot the open space. If you ask me, we need players like Ozil to spend more time on the ball instead of just passing if nobody is making a run. But it looks like Ramsey may be learning that lesson quicker.

[RomfordPele]

Wenger has just killed any goodwill or momentum from the fa cup win then.

Hope it was worth the £16m or so (once unpaid arrears factored in) it would have cost to sign fabregas.

Still I suppose the money saved has paid his own wages for two of the three years we are stuck with him.

Roll on the moment we unveil salomon kalou...

[Master Splinter]

Fuck him. He's a whore in the same mould as nasri and Cole.



They didn't pretend to love the club and fans and the philosophy of their club/s. They love the cash and don't care that they're whores. And both were far more professional when leaving.

RVC and Cisc are in their own category of sleaze.

[Master Splinter]

Ha ha ha ha ha lol we're signing Kalou and Barry and Trabelsi because we buy shit and Wenger buys players like them every transfer window without fail.

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[Globalgunner]

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Cant believe he missed out Djourou. Maybe words do sometimes fail you.

[Keith]

Respect to Wenger.

He got the call from the exgirlfriend wanting one more chance, "I'm better than what you have" and he's told her to get stuffed. She's gone running to his enemy.

Or

"Can I come back boss?" "No, fuck you, thought you had Barca DNA"

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp8Qw1GIUAA7NRT.jpg

[Power n Glory]

They didn't pretend to love the club and fans and the philosophy of their club/s. They love the cash and don't care that they're whores. And both were far more professional when leaving.

RVC and Cisc are in their own category of sleaze.

Honestly, if the club go for the cheap deals and don't sign anyone of any significance this season, we need to start asking who loves the cash more or if they give a damn about the fans.

[Master Splinter]

Honestly, if the club go for the cheap deals and don't sign anyone of any significance this season, we need to start asking who loves the cash more or if they give a damn about the fans.

The club haven't allowed Reina to put a Barca shirt on them and haven't posted phoney messages to "you guys" on their website yet tbf.

[Power n Glory]

Respect to Wenger.

He got the call from the exgirlfriend wanting one more chance, "I'm better than what you have" and he's told her to get stuffed. She's gone running to his enemy.

Or

"Can I come back boss?" "No, fuck you, thought you had Barca DNA"

That's wishful thinking. If he held such malice we'd have never welcomed Flamini back. Same goes for bringing back Sol Campbell and Henry. It comes down to the asking price. If he were cheaper we'd find a way.

[Niall_Quinn]

Didn't want Campbell the first time.

[Power n Glory]

The club haven't allowed Reina to put a Barca shirt on them and haven't posted phoney messages to "you guys" on their website yet tbf.


:doh: That doesn't even make sense.

In regards to phoney messages and addressing the fans, they haven't exactly been honest about our financial state. Take the RVP situation as an example. Exactly why were we forced to selling RVP to Man Utd of all clubs? It's quite obvious now that we weren't hard up for cash considering the message we sent out last year about our financial position. Would missing out on £25m killed us?

[Master Splinter]

That's wishful thinking. If he held such malice we'd have never welcomed Flamini back. Same goes for bringing back Sol Campbell and Henry. It comes down to the asking price. If he were cheaper we'd find a way.

There's quite a difference between a squad player for free on low wages and a squad player for £30m on astronomical wages.

Unless you're Chelsea or City of course.

[Injury Time]

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Bring them to Chavs match and throw them at him :good: or send them to me and I will give one to Cess Fullofgas and one to WUMger <.<

[Power n Glory]

There's quite a difference between a squad player for free on low wages and a squad player for £30m on astronomical wages.

Unless you're Chelsea or City of course.

I'm not disputing the price difference. I just disagreeing with anyone that thinks we rejected the deal based on principles. If that's the argument, you have to take a closer look at that Flamini deal and think why that was water under the bridge.

[Ollie the Optimist]

:doh: That doesn't even make sense.

In regards to phoney messages and addressing the fans, they haven't exactly been honest about our financial state. Take the RVP situation as an example. Exactly why were we forced to selling RVP to Man Utd of all clubs? It's quite obvious now that we weren't hard up for cash considering the message we sent out last year about our financial position. Would missing out on £25m killed us?

because he released a statement calling everyone who worked for Arsenal and supported them, a bunch of cunts*


*or words to that effect

[Ollie the Optimist]

I'm not disputing the price difference. I just disagreeing with anyone that thinks we rejected the deal based on principles. If that's the argument, you have to take a closer look at that Flamini deal and think why that was water under the bridge.

because flamini didn't go on strike to force a move, didn't flirt with barca for about 4 years etc etc

[Munchies]

@LeGrove

Guys, Cesc is dead to me. If we pull off a deal for one of the players we're in for. You'll forget that scoundrel. Promise.

[Syn]

Cesc wanted to stay at Barca, but they've humiliated him by pretty much kicking him out. So then he wanted to come back to Arsenal. Wenger didn't want him. So absolutely fair enough for him to join Chelsea, it's a club which has that lampard role open for him in a league that best suits his style.

We've got a much better midfielder playing the Cesc role in Ramsey. Ozil will also improve next aeason. And quite frankly there is a lot of room for improvement in other positions. If we do the business we should do in this window, passing up on Fabregas will be irrelevant. The worry is that I'm not at all confident that the club will bring in a top striker, another decent striker, a good DM, RB and GK. Can only hope that Wenger knows letting Cesc go to Chelsea will massively raise the pressure to land a biggie.

[Power n Glory]

because flamini didn't go on strike to force a move, didn't flirt with barca for about 4 years etc etc

If we were that hurt over his actions, we wouldn't have put in a first option clause to bring him back.

But Wenger wasn't happy about the way Flamini left and was quite critical of how he went about it.

[Ollie the Optimist]

If we were that hurt over his actions, we wouldn't have put in a first option clause to bring him back.

But Wenger wasn't happy about the way Flamini left and was quite critical of how he went about it.

but also flamini came back to train and obviously impressed enough but show enough humbleness to come back to train and admit he made a mistake.

it sounds like Cesc just rang up and said take me back

[Niall_Quinn]

Cesc wanted to stay at Barca, but they've humiliated him by pretty much kicking him out. So then he wanted to come back to Arsenal. Wenger didn't want him. So absolutely fair enough for him to join Chelsea, it's a club which has that lampard role open for him in a league that best suits his style.

We've got a much better midfielder playing the Cesc role in Ramsey. Ozil will also improve next aeason. And quite frankly there is a lot of room for improvement in other positions. If we do the business we should do in this window, passing up on Fabregas will be irrelevant. The worry is that I'm not at all confident that the club will bring in a top striker, another decent striker, a good DM, RB and GK. Can only hope that Wenger knows letting Cesc go to Chelsea will massively raise the pressure to land a biggie.

Fair points. Still holding my breath regarding Ramsey. Such an incredible transformation I keep expecting to see a giant pumpkin next time he plays. Watching extended footage of him over the course of the season (posted in this thread I think), he's simply an amazing player. Somehow, by whatever means. It's miraculous. If he'd have had that season for another club, say Barca, and he was turning up in an Arsenal shirt next season we'd be wetting our thongs. Plus Walcott showed good signs when he wasn't dead. And Ox started to show what a great player he can be too. As always, 2-3 real quality additions and we have a chance. Ozil will of course improve as he gets more familiar with the PL non-footballing way of doing shit. Without the signings though I expect to see Ozil, Ramsey, Walcott, Ox, Jack all angling for a move within the next couple of seasons. So many reasons why we must do the business this window - even Wenger must see it.

http://img.skysports.com/09/08/800x600/Quote-of-the-Week-Arsene-Wenger-800_2349744.jpg

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@OllieHolt22

Just spoke to Wenger at Arena Corinthians. Asked him if he was disappointed Fabregas joined CFC. "Nothing to say," he said with wave of hand

:coffee:

[Zerlathon]

So far, we've seen 2 direct Rivals strengthened because of us. There needs to be some real (and I mean real... REALLY real) investment in this squad to validate this horrible nightmare. :arry:

Show us some actual intent to compete for the title!

Although I accept that we had a good season (in general), I don't think I can take another season riddled with humiliating defeats that make us look like a bunch of twats.

[Niall_Quinn]

@OllieHolt22

Just spoke to Wenger at Arena Corinthians. Asked him if he was disappointed Fabregas joined CFC. "Nothing to say," he said with wave of hand

:coffee:

Ollie Holt is such a massive cunt it's scary.

[Niall_Quinn]

@LeGrove

Guys, Cesc is dead to me. If we pull off a deal for one of the players we're in for. You'll forget that scoundrel. Promise.

Guys, if we pull off a deal for one of the players I'm claiming we're after - without having to provide a shred of proof and with the safety net of being able to say it didn't work out without anyone being able to verify a damn thing either way - I maybe won't have to admit that I'm worse than those jokers on Twatter.

[Power n Glory]

because he released a statement calling everyone who worked for Arsenal and supported them, a bunch of cunts*


*or words to that effect

Would it have hurt us to reject the £25m and let him sit on the bench until he's learned his lesson? It's all very well talking about principles but the club needs to set a better example. We could have held out and waited for a better deal or just let him walk on a free.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Would it have hurt us to reject the £25m and let him sit on the bench until he's learned his lesson? It's all very well talking about principles but the club needs to set a better example. We could have held out and waited for a better deal or just let him walk on a free.

so make him sit on the bench for a season, not get goals etc from him, then see him walk to united on a free at the end of that season.


that is a fucking genius idea, why didn't Arsene do that?

[selassie]

So far, we've seen 2 direct Rivals strengthened because of us. There needs to be some real (and I mean real... REALLY real) investment in this squad to validate this horrible nightmare. :arry:

Show us some actual intent to compete for the title!

Although I accept that we had a good season (in general), I don't think I can take another season riddled with humiliating defeats that make us look like a bunch of twats.

Yep, pretty much how I feel.

"We don't buy stars, we make them....and then give em to our rivals".....

This summer is really crucial and I sincerely hope we mean business, no dithering or lowballing, identify the targets and make the move.

[GP]

so make him sit on the bench for a season, not get goals etc from him, then see him walk to united on a free at the end of that season.


that is a fucking genius idea, why didn't Arsene do that?

:haha:

[fakeyank]

so make him sit on the bench for a season, not get goals etc from him, then see him walk to united on a free at the end of that season.


that is a fucking genius idea, why didn't Arsene do that?

You think Utd or any team would have really fancied a player with a huge injury record and no playing time in a year? I doubt so.. he probably wouldve still gone to Utd when Moyes was manager and lost out on one whole year of his playing days. Its not that bad of an idea.

[Power n Glory]

so make him sit on the bench for a season, not get goals etc from him, then see him walk to united on a free at the end of that season.


that is a fucking genius idea, why didn't Arsene do that[?

Because the club wanted the money more. :tiphat:

Principles and priorities. This is what we slate players for.

[Ollie the Optimist]

pay a guy £100,000 a week to sit on the bench to teach him a lesson and watch him walk away for free at the end of the season.

what a fucking brilliant idea

[Niall_Quinn]

pay a guy £100,000 a week to sit on the bench to teach him a lesson and watch him walk away for free at the end of the season.

what a fucking brilliant idea

Sell him to a rival who then use his goals to win the title while we suffer for lack of fire power ever since? Not the most brilliant idea either. If he had to be sold it should never, ever, ever have been to Utd. Never. There's never a reason to sell to a major rival, unless it's Kolo in which case that's fine.

[Power n Glory]

pay a guy £100,000 a week to sit on the bench to teach him a lesson and watch him walk away for free at the end of the season.

what a fucking brilliant idea

:doh: Fan-fucking-tastic idea to sell him to United wasn't it? If we waited a year and he'd never have gone because they'd have David Moyes!

I'm not saying bench for an entire season. You've seen how we've dealt with players who don't want to sign a new deal in the past. Theo was benched and got limited games until talks got better. Sagna just played through his deal.

Also, I think your missing a major point but I don't expect you to understand.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Cesc wanted to stay at Barca, but they've humiliated him by pretty much kicking him out. So then he wanted to come back to Arsenal. Wenger didn't want him. So absolutely fair enough for him to join Chelsea, it's a club which has that lampard role open for him in a league that best suits his style.

We've got a much better midfielder playing the Cesc role in Ramsey. Ozil will also improve next aeason. And quite frankly there is a lot of room for improvement in other positions. If we do the business we should do in this window, passing up on Fabregas will be irrelevant. The worry is that I'm not at all confident that the club will bring in a top striker, another decent striker, a good DM, RB and GK. Can only hope that Wenger knows letting Cesc go to Chelsea will massively raise the pressure to land a biggie.

Spot on.

Any anger I'll have is if the Club don't use the full extent of their resources to strengthen the team as best they can. And I don't feel overly optimistic that they will.

[Özim]

pay a guy £100,000 a week to sit on the bench to teach him a lesson and watch him walk away for free at the end of the season.

what a fucking brilliant idea
£100,001 would be better actually

[GP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwrFCQ83Ue8&app=desktop

[Marc Overmars]

Spot on.

Any anger I'll have is if the Club don't use the full extent of their resources to strengthen the team as best they can. And I don't feel overly optimistic that they will.

This is it. I'm disappointed but I'll wait to pass full judgement, goes without saying the club really need to deliver in this window.

[Munchies]

@piersmorgan

I hear @cesc4official 's salary demands were 'obscene'. Hence Arsenal refusing to pick up option. What a 'true Gunner' he turned out to be.

Piers is an ITK now ?

[Niall_Quinn]

You should qualify the word "deliver" or they'll simply send you a (Margherita thin crust) pizza. Always mention money and the amount, probably specify the currency too just in case they pull some shit in Roubles or North Korean Dongwads.

[Niall_Quinn]

@piersmorgan

I hear @cesc4official 's salary demands were 'obscene'. Hence Arsenal refusing to pick up option. What a 'true Gunner' he turned out to be.

Piers is an ITK now ?

Yes, he's a full member of the made up shit but it sounds good club.

[GP]

You should qualify the word "deliver" or they'll simply send you a (Margherita thin crust) pizza. Always mention money and the amount, probably specify the currency too just in case they pull some shit in Roubles or North Korean Dongwads.

You're a Dongwad

[RomfordPele]

Yes, he's a full member of the made up shit but it sounds good club.

Or that's what wenger and the club is now briefing out to excuse the same tight-arsed, money-grabbing, complacent, haughty, holier-than-thou BULLSHIT approach to transfers that we've seen for the past eight years.

But I'm happy to delay passing judgement. Until kalou is safely in the bag, that is.

[Niall_Quinn]

You're a Dongwad

A promotion, me :bow:

[Munchies]

‏@DiMarzio
Update: @Sagnaofficial is a @MCFC player: just signed a three years contract and had medical in the past days. Waiting for the announcement

4 million a year too

[Fist of Lehmann]

Yes, he's a full member of the made up shit but it sounds good club.

Squawka suggests Cesc'll be on around £200k a week (that's about 40 trillion dongwads).

I'd assume we ruled ourselves out long before discussing wages but who knows? Maybe Pies Morgan is only mostly full of shit?

[Power n Glory]

Cesc took a pay cut and waived his loyalty fee to join Barca. He wasn't earning much there. The wage story is BS. This would have dragged on for much longer if we had tabled a bid but hit a stumbling block with the personal terms.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I don't think we'd drag out something like that.

[Power n Glory]

That's sarcasm, right. :lol:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

because flamini didn't go on strike to force a move, didn't flirt with barca for about 4 years etc etc
That does strike me a little of the nerd flirting with the number 1 cheerleader. Flamini had no business flirting with Barca and that bitch cheerleader had no idea who his sorry arse was.


Would it have hurt us to reject the £25m and let him sit on the bench until he's learned his lesson? It's all very well talking about principles but the club needs to set a better example. We could have held out and waited for a better deal or just let him walk on a free.

Absolutely agree that it was high time we made a stand a long time ago. We haven't had to in the last few years because the quality of the recruits has diminished so far that we've stopped being pestered.....but eventually someone like Ramsey will arouse the interest. When that happens I don't want the club selling and hearing whatever tedious version of 'we had to' once more.

Liverpool went as far as breaking an agreement to hold their player down. We shouldn't need them to be an example for us in the first place.

[Xhaka Can’t]

That's sarcasm, right. :lol:

I thought about a smiley but wanted to keep people on their toes.

[Munchies]

John Terry will be happy :coffee:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2315700/Cesc-Fabregas-girlfriend-Daniella-Semaan--friends-Queen-DD.html

[Fist of Lehmann]

Cesc took a pay cut and waived his loyalty fee to join Barca. He wasn't earning much there. The wage story is BS. This would have dragged on for much longer if we had tabled a bid but hit a stumbling block with the personal terms.

That was very noble of him. Now he's going to get £200k a week. I'm not sure what going rate for obscenity is these days.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm not sure what going rate for obscenity is these days.

It's a moving target, subject to rampant inflation. Your imagination doesn't stand a chance.

[Niall_Quinn]

Another nobody nothing.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/482056/Arsenal-to-make-up-for-Cesc-Fabregas-blunder-by-moving-for-Brazilian-star

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Le Grove should stop being such a cock tease and name the talent we're after ...... that's if he isn't making this BS up to get hits which is what I'm starting to suspect.

I mean there's already an article on the internet linking us to every foreseeable superstar out there now the whole world world knows we have money; what harm would more rumours really do? I doubt the words of one of out of countless hundreds of Arsenal bloggers and internet commentators is going to affect in any way the deal we're allegedly trying to do.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Le Grove must really have lost the plot.

[Niall_Quinn]

Le Grove should stop being such a cock tease and name the talent we're after

He can't because he doesn't know and just made it up.

[Niall_Quinn]

Also, I said I’d tell you this week about the name I had. I can’t, because it might still be on. Once it’s dead and buried, then we can talk about the name. Until then, feast on Carlos Vela, who wasn’t the name.

I'm convinced.

[fakeyank]

Le Grove should stop being such a cock tease and name the talent we're after ...... that's if he isn't making this BS up to get hits which is what I'm starting to suspect.

I mean there's already an article on the internet linking us to every foreseeable superstar out there now the whole world world knows we have money; what harm would more rumours really do? I doubt the words of one of out of countless hundreds of Arsenal bloggers and internet commentators is going to affect in any way the deal we're allegedly trying to do.

Well, chances are if there is any ounce of truth then the moment the name comes up, someone else will pay his actually market price and wages.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Well, chances are if there is any ounce of truth then the moment the name comes up, someone else will pay his actually market price and wages.

I doubt most clubs will be eagerly refreshing the transfer the section of a random Arsenal blog before deciding to conduct business. Most of them have their own vast internal scouting networks to narrow down players and with how globalised the game & communications have become and with agents wielding the power they do, the top clubs would already be aware if a world class player is available.

Besides if these players are the supposed world class mind blowing players that Le Grove keeps hyping about and not unknown nobodies, most other top clubs should be aware of them already.

Really there is no reason for Le Grove to keep these "alleged names" hidden other than to build up hits for his site which I'm guessing must be struggling from the increased competition.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bastian Schweinsteiger is available and Utd are in for him.

If we don't sign him, having already let Fabregas walk, well this club can just go and find the tallest cliff, jump, and then have its corpse arsefucked by leprous apes.

[Niall_Quinn]

I doubt most clubs will be eagerly refreshing the transfer the section of a random Arsenal...

I doubt anyone, anywhere will be refreshing any page that has anything whatsoever to do with Arsenal transfer activity. Because there's no such thing.

[I am invisible]

There was a story going around earlier that talks have broken down between Real and Benzema about a new contract - apparently he wants his wages doubled to 150k/week, and they don't think he's worth that much? If they don't come to an agreement then he'll be down to the final year of his contract...

[Injury Time]

There was a story going around earlier that talks have broken down between Real and Benzema about a new contract - apparently he wants his wages doubled to 150k/week, and they don't think he's worth that much? If they don't come to an agreement then he'll be down to the final year of his contract...

So Citeh or Chavs it is then...

[Power n Glory]

There was a story going around earlier that talks have broken down between Real and Benzema about a new contract - apparently he wants his wages doubled to 150k/week, and they don't think he's worth that much? If they don't come to an agreement then he'll be down to the final year of his contract...

Wenger's got his eye on the situation. During the final he said Karim may have played his last game for Real Madrid and that he was sure that he’d play in the Prem one day.


He’ll probably end up at Liverpool or Chelsea :coffee:

[Power n Glory]

So Citeh or Chavs it is then...

Yep.

[I am invisible]

Damn it!

[KSE Comedy Club]

Yeh but if you knew the names we were in for you would forget all about Benzema.
Although I can't tell you the names because it may mean that all the deals would suddenly be compromised - what with my blog being the most popular ITK transfer blog in the entire universe.

[Munchies]

"Mrs. Fabregas. I'm waiting."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp_l8AjCMAAchsH.png

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Benzema to Liverpool, Suarez to Marketing. A right arse raping for Liverpool if it happens.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeh but if you knew the names we were in for you would forget all about Benzema.
Although I can't tell you the names because it may mean that all the deals would suddenly be compromised - what with my blog being the most popular ITK transfer blog in the entire universe.

You can tell me, I'm a doctor.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Yeh but if you knew the names we were in for you would forget all about Benzema.
Although I can't tell you the names because it may mean that all the deals would suddenly be compromised - what with my blog being the most popular ITK transfer blog in the entire universe.

It's a win - win situation for him as well.

If we do pull of a major transfer soon he'll claim credit for it, irrespective of who it is and whether they were actually on his "list".

If we don't pull it off he's then afforded the opportunity to go of on one of his usual tirades and rants about the club and increase readership that way. Name some random superstar name and blames Wenger and Gazidis for dithering and saying it's epidemic of our overall transfer policy.

I mean the club aren't exactly going to reply to or confirm the rumours that he puts out so won't be able to defend themselves.

[Syn]

I don't fancy Benzema or Mandzukic. Think our best option upfront is to take a risk on Balotelli or Morata, and then sign a handy squaddie like Remy. The fact that 3 top clubs have wanted Balotelli out by age 23 doesn't fill me with confidence but he can twat a ball in from 50 yards out so he might do that a few times for us. Wouldn't get bullied by any defender, only the crowd.

[Injury Time]

I don't fancy Benzema or Mandzukic. Think our best option upfront is to take a risk on Balotelli or Morata, and then sign a handy squaddie like Remy. The fact that 3 top clubs have wanted Balotelli out by age 23 doesn't fill me with confidence but he can twat a ball in from 50 yards out so he might do that a few times for us. Wouldn't get bullied by any defender, only the crowd.
Did Goonersweb send him a birthday card, if not the deal is off :handbags:

[Munchies]

Sagna has officially gone to City
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20140613/sagna-set-to-join-manchester-city

Really hope Wenger has players lined up.

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[Marc Overmars]

Sagan. :wave:

:sick:

[Munchies]

Last few days haven't been easy for the fans that's for sure.

[I am invisible]

Cesc looks like a wanker in that kit.

I heard Atletico Madrid want Vela - is it too late to fuck up Chelsea's move for Costa?

[Power n Glory]

It's a win - win situation for him as well.

If we do pull of a major transfer soon he'll claim credit for it, irrespective of who it is and whether they were actually on his "list".

If we don't pull it off he's then afforded the opportunity to go of on one of his usual tirades and rants about the club and increase readership that way. Name some random superstar name and blames Wenger and Gazidis for dithering and saying it's epidemic of our overall transfer policy.

I mean the club aren't exactly going to reply to or confirm the rumours that he puts out so won't be able to defend themselves.

I think you guys are wide off the mark. This is the message coming out from the club. Gazidis had already stated we're deep in negotiations with our targets during an Arsenal Supports Q&A session.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/9338249/premier-league-ivan-gazidis-says-arsenal-are-in-talks-with-transfer-targets

It's the Gazidis PR machine in full effect.

[Power n Glory]

I don't fancy Benzema or Mandzukic. Think our best option upfront is to take a risk on Balotelli or Morata, and then sign a handy squaddie like Remy. The fact that 3 top clubs have wanted Balotelli out by age 23 doesn't fill me with confidence but he can twat a ball in from 50 yards out so he might do that a few times for us. Wouldn't get bullied by any defender, only the crowd.

Some shaky parts to Benzema's game. I think he has potential but at 26 he needs to step his game up now.

Good thing about the World Cup is we'll get to see both Benzema and Balotelli in action. I'd be happy with either of them. But forget Mandzukic.

[I am invisible]

Mandzukic could work if we beefed up our wide options too, but I'd rather have one of the other two...

[Munchies]

Diaby becomes our longest serving player :haha:

[Power n Glory]

Mandzukic could work if we beefed up our wide options too, but I'd rather have one of the other two...

So would Giroud in all fairness. If we played inverted quick wingers that could score goals, it wouldn’t be a problem. When he drops deep to do little flicks would work out fine. Heck, we could have gotten more out of Chamakh if we had inverted wingers. He’s also the drop deep, link up play workhorse type. I just don’t understand why Wenger would want these type of forwards when we don’t have the wide players to accommodate.

[Munchies]

Sagna is going to be on £150,000 a week.

Doubles his salary

[Power n Glory]

Diaby becomes our longest serving player :haha:

Rosicky is our longest serving player. But Diaby and Theo came in the winter window after him. If it weren’t for the injuries, we’d have probably sold all three by now. ;)

[Munchies]

Rosicky is our longest serving player. But Diaby and Theo came in the winter window after him. If it weren’t for the injuries, we’d have probably sold all three by now. ;)

Nope, Rosicky came after the world cup in 06.

Remember his USA goal ? :bow: , was so excited about signing him early.

Just watched it now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUAr1Qagefs

[Power n Glory]

Nope, Rosicky came after the world cup in 06.

Remember his USA goal ? :bow: , was so excited about signing him early.

Just watched it now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUAr1Qagefs

That's terrible. We need to do more to retain long serving players. If Rosicky had fulfilled his potential, he'd have been off playing in Spain by now. Same probably goes for Diaby.

[I am invisible]

So would Giroud in all fairness. If we played inverted quick wingers that could score goals, it wouldn’t be a problem. When he drops deep to do little flicks would work out fine. Heck, we could have gotten more out of Chamakh if we had inverted wingers. He’s also the drop deep, link up play workhorse type. I just don’t understand why Wenger would want these type of forwards when we don’t have the wide players to accommodate.

Point of fact, it was working with Giroud before Christmas, and probably would have continued working, if we'd had more cover and competition for our attacking players (even if that extra cover and competition was all like-for-like players, like Mandzukic and Vela) - not really that surprising then that it only worked for half a season, when we only had about half the options needed to make it through a whole season...

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I think you guys are wide off the mark. This is the message coming out from the club. Gazidis had already stated we're deep in negotiations with our targets during an Arsenal Supports Q&A session.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/9338249/premier-league-ivan-gazidis-says-arsenal-are-in-talks-with-transfer-targets

It's the Gazidis PR machine in full effect.

So you think someone like Le Grove who's been the most critical Arsenal blogger out there about Wenger, Gazidis and the way the club has been run for the past several years will so easily fall for Gazidis' PR and trust what he says. He's never done so in the past, why would he suddenly do so now?

He's clearly basing his comment on more than Gazidis' PR Spiel. I mean not even the most optimistic poster on here got really excited by Gazidis' comments given the fact we've heard it all before.

Either he genuinely has insider knowledge that we've actively been working on something big or as I'm beginning to suspect, he's making this all up.

[Power n Glory]

So you think someone like Le Grove who's been the most critical Arsenal blogger out there about Wenger, Gazidis and the way the club has been run for the past several years will so easily fall for Gazidis' PR and trust what he says. He's never done so in the past, why would he suddenly do so now?

He's clearly basing his comment on more than Gazidis' PR Spiel. I mean not even the most optimistic poster on here got really excited by Gazidis' comments given the fact we've heard it all before.

Either he genuinely has insider knowledge that we've actively been working on something big or as I'm beginning to suspect, he's making this all up.

Yes, I do in fact. Le Grove has taken it easier on Gazidis since holding that meeting last summer. I remember reading a long article on the site talking about our new spending power before we did the Ozil deal and before Gazidis went to the mainstream press. Ivan went to the bloggers and Arsenal support first and then the mainstream press. I'll find it if I can.

[I am invisible]

So you think someone like Le Grove who's been the most critical Arsenal blogger out there about Wenger, Gazidis and the way the club has been run for the past several years will so easily fall for Gazidis' PR and trust what he says. He's never done so in the past, why would he suddenly do so now?

He's clearly basing his comment on more than Gazidis' PR Spiel. I mean not even the most optimistic poster on here got really excited by Gazidis' comments given the fact we've heard it all before.

Either he genuinely has insider knowledge that we've actively been working on something big or as I'm beginning to suspect, he's making this all up.

Yeah he has - he did the exact same thing last summer, and then proceeded to get steadily more and more angry as the summer went on and nothing materialized.

Personally speaking, I don't think there's anything that calculated or sinister behind it - he may well have been duped, but I think he genuinely believes what he's saying. I do however agree that he should probably just say nothing, if he's not actually going to name names though - I suspect all these cryptic hints are more of a misguided attempt to stop the online Arsenal-supporting community going into total meltdown after the Fabregas and Sagna defections...

[Munchies]

Cazorla being linked with a move to Atletico, 20 mill Euros

[Penguin]

Fuck off Atletico :tiphat:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Wenger's got his eye on the situation. During the final he said Karim may have played his last game for Real Madrid and that he was sure that he’d play in the Prem one day.


He’ll probably end up at Liverpool or Chelsea :coffee:
Have you turned into Milla....? :d

Sagna has officially gone to City
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20140613/sagna-set-to-join-manchester-city

Really hope Wenger has players lined up.

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Are those comments genuine!??

Yeah he has - he did the exact same thing last summer, and then proceeded to get steadily more and more angry as the summer went on and nothing materialized.

Personally speaking, I don't think there's anything that calculated or sinister behind it - he may well have been duped, but I think he genuinely believes what he's saying. I do however agree that he should probably just say nothing, if he's not actually going to name names though - I suspect all these cryptic hints are more of a misguided attempt to stop the online Arsenal-supporting community going into total meltdown after the Fabregas and Sagna defections...

I think that is about the size of it mate..... though perhaps I'm being naive.

Either way, the club have again put themselves into a really precarious position where if they don't make some serious acquisitions there is going to be a lot of shit slinging.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Fair enough then. I'll ease of the abuse towards Le Grove then ......... for a while at least.


Cazorla being linked with a move to Atletico, 20 mill Euros

If we sell Santi after having let Cesc pass us by. :doh:



Are those comments genuine!??


I know the Cesc one is a load of shite but don't know about the others.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah he has - he did the exact same thing last summer, and then proceeded to get steadily more and more angry as the summer went on and nothing materialized.

Personally speaking, I don't think there's anything that calculated or sinister behind it - he may well have been duped, but I think he genuinely believes what he's saying. I do however agree that he should probably just say nothing, if he's not actually going to name names though - I suspect all these cryptic hints are more of a misguided attempt to stop the online Arsenal-supporting community going into total meltdown after the Fabregas and Sagna defections...

Yep. After he met Gazidis, things changed slightly and rumblings about a big signing started early. Was way more optimistic about the summer than usual.

http://le-grove.co.uk/2013/05/01/arsenal-commercial-deals-put-us-on-bayerns-level-by-2015/

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Wenger's got his eye on the situation. During the final he said Karim may have played his last game for Real Madrid and that he was sure that he’d play in the Prem one day.


He’ll probably end up at Liverpool or Chelsea :coffee:

Please god no!

[Niall_Quinn]

If we sell Santi after having let Cesc pass us by.

First realistic rumour I've heard. It would be so us.

Really pissed we haven't been decisive in this window. Too late now, didn't strike fast and get our targets, didn't strike moderately quickly and get a sniff of our targets, didn't strike slow, haven't struck at all. Just sitting there, like lemons, playing the waiting game. Mind you, it's not as if quality is going to walk up and knock on the door.

Oh wait, that did happen didn't it?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Point of fact, it was working with Giroud before Christmas, and probably would have continued working, if we'd had more cover and competition for our attacking players (even if that extra cover and competition was all like-for-like players, like Mandzukic and Vela) - not really that surprising then that it only worked for half a season, when we only had about half the options needed to make it through a whole season...

You are right.....it did work and I am not saying that we would have won the league (even though I put 100 quid on them at 12-1! And that was when we were an excitable rabble with the positive noise that Suarez could be coming and if he had I could be 1200 pound up!)
Giroud will score goals and I am not a hater! However he misses far too many and for that reason we need more options up front. We need strength in all positions and I would look to bring in Remy and maybe someone like Bony. If we went for Benzema would we have enough to go round. If anything niw we need a new RB

[Injury Time]

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/06/13/arsenals-new-fitness-coach-wengers-best-addition-this-summer/

Well it's about time tbf (apologies if already posted elsewhere)

[Injury Time]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/482307/Chelsea-in-for-ANOTHER-ex-Arsenal-star-as-they-ready-bid-for-Man-Utd-target-Alex-Song so hope that is true :pray:

[Niall_Quinn]

Ozil vs Mata vs Fabrecash

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/06/13/stats-does-cesc-fabregas-even-compare-to-juan-mata-or-mesut-ozil/

[Injury Time]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/13/santi-cazorla-wants-to-quit-arsenal-for-atletico-madrid-transfer-4761039/?

Ogg

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/482307/Chelsea-in-for-ANOTHER-ex-Arsenal-star-as-they-ready-bid-for-Man-Utd-target-Alex-Song so hope that is true :pray:

A meh moment at best.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/13/santi-cazorla-wants-to-quit-arsenal-for-atletico-madrid-transfer-4761039/?

Ogg

"Cazorla will make a decision on his next move after the tournament in Brazil."

Is John Henry his agent?

Talking of John Henry, watch us collapse like an exhausted whore if this is true.

[Power n Glory]

Point of fact, it was working with Giroud before Christmas, and probably would have continued working, if we'd had more cover and competition for our attacking players (even if that extra cover and competition was all like-for-like players, like Mandzukic and Vela) - not really that surprising then that it only worked for half a season, when we only had about half the options needed to make it through a whole season...

Ramsey was working but I'm not so sure about Giroud and the wide players. Once Ramsey was out of the team the goals dried up. He was the only attacking player to really hit form and drive us on. Take him out of the equation and I see a disjointed and uninspiring system with no real drive or purpose. We just play in front of our opponents. We had practically the same system the season before and the main difference is Aaron Ramsey's form.

I think Giroud needs proper wide players to buy him more space. He's done okay so far but having to play in tight congested space doesn't suit him and the type of wide players we have either side of him won't by him enough time and space on the ball.

[Ralpheroo72]

Just close this thread ffs

[Kano]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/13/santi-cazorla-wants-to-quit-arsenal-for-atletico-madrid-transfer-4761039/?

Ogg

omg we're like gonna have like 3 players left to play the first game.

internet panic!!!!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Just close this thread ffs

:d :lol:

[Munchies]

Soceidad might sign Vela outright for around £8m

[KSE Comedy Club]

Good news.

More money for us to stockpile

[Marc Overmars]

No fucking way are these Santi rumours true, surely?

[GP]

Well, the rumour is just that Atletico are interested.

Nothing worth slitting our wrists over.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Cazorla wants to leave, but we didn't need Cesc :haha:

[Munchies]

I wouldn't mind seeing him leave IF we get in a good replacement, which won't happen, so I don't want to see him leave :coffee:

He can't play on the RW as he has done, because Ox and Feo are faster than him and offer more of a threat.
LW he's largely ineffective like Podolski.
CAM is where Ozil will start, so he'd have to be content with the bench.

[Injury Time]

Soceidad might sign Vela outright for around £8m
So we get the 3.5m? Champagne all around*

*well Wenger bonus drinkies anyway<_<

[KSE Comedy Club]

Maybe he's pissed off that we didn't sign Cesc back as well. There were a couple of articles doing the rounds that santi had said we should bring him back.

[Gooner23]

I'll be gutted if Santi goes. We need to build on the current squad, not re-build again. Hopefully it's all bullshit.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Caught offside are 'exclusively' reporting that we are wrapping up a £46m deal for Balotelli and Hulk. :coffee:

[GP]

:haha:

[Power n Glory]

As said before, there is no guarantee that we'll keep this team together. Santi just signed a new deal so I hope this is BS. But you never know.

It will be tough next season. We've destabilised our most stable and reliable unit by letting Sagna leave to go to City. No idea how Merts will cope with a new partner down his right. Chelsea will be stronger with Cesc and Costa. City will be City. United have a lot to prove and Van Gaal will get something out of that squad. I only hope Liverpool have a really dodgy season with the added games.

We can't afford to mess around next year. Unless we go really, we can forget the title. The team need to feel as though they have compete with the other squads and it doesn't help when we continue to strengthen our rivals.

[Niall_Quinn]

Caught offside are 'exclusively' reporting that we are wrapping up a £46m deal for Balotelli and Hulk. :coffee:

Easy to understand what that one is exclusive. If it was true, it would represent the biggest waste of money since any transfer involving David Luiz.

[Niall_Quinn]

As said before, there is no guarantee that we'll keep this team together. Santi just signed a new deal so I hope this is BS. But you never know.

It will be tough next season. We've destabilised our most stable and reliable unit by letting Sagna leave to go to City. No idea how Merts will cope with a new partner down his right. Chelsea will be stronger with Cesc and Costa. City will be City. United have a lot to prove and Van Gaal will get something out of that squad. I only hope Liverpool have a really dodgy season with the added games.

We can't afford to mess around next year. Unless we go really, we can forget the title. The team need to feel as though they have compete with the other squads and it doesn't help when we continue to strengthen our rivals.

We've already blown it. Letting Cesc go to the chavs is catastrophic. It sends a terrible message to the players, the fans, the football community in general. It means we're not a serious club with serious ambitions and players are going to take that into account when deciding to join or stay. We're turning ourselves into a glorified training facility where we go through the hard task of building players so we can turn them over to anyone and everyone, including our supposed rivals, for a profit.

It's an absolute shambles. Sure, they could still splash some cash and get another new face in here, but a decade of being unable to keep hold of our players has taken a toll. Ramsey, Ozil, Kos, Walcott, Wilshere, Ox, and then some new faces. But for how long? Why doesn't the manager and board seem to give a shit about morale in this squad and among the fans? Or the consequences of running the place like an investment house? Signing Cesc would have cost money, sure. But the intangible rewards as well as the direct rewards on the pitch would have more than made up for it. Was he not good enough to compete with Arteta and Flamini FFS? And if Cazorla is not committed, then WTF? Are they honestly so fucking desperate for that £7mill they'll pick up from the chavs?

Really doesn't matter who we sign. The heart of this club is being stamped on season after season. By fucking bankers. The bankers in charge were given a whole season (again) and the comfort of tolerance following yet another 4th place finish. The deal was they'd show us some ambition and show us the money and the signings. So far we've lost Sagna, I think that greedy cunt was off no matter what considering we offered him deal after deal to stay, we've refused to sign back Fabregas on the cheap, we're fucking around over a £3mill fee for a bit part reserve player, talking shit with Puma about bringing in the world's biggest loser and head case, talking more shit about signing kids from Southampton - as if we have all this time to patiently go through yet another transition period. It's utter shit. Fucking arseholes. Every cunt knows what's needed so why doesn't somebody at the club find some balls and do it?

Even little things for the fans, like signing up players before the world cup so we can watch them during it - like fans from other fucking teams get to do. But this board and it has to be assumed the manager don't understand fuck about the fans. Or else they do but couldn't give a fuck anyway. The Cazorla thing is a rumour, but as I said earlier, it's so us. It's easily the most realistic rumour so far. Us losing a player rather than signing one. We're so used to it. Another fucking window and here we are, weaker than when we began. Fucking around, watching the other clubs do deals. When are they going to move? Whay do they think they have time, given what has happened in prior windows? Lessons?

Anyway, this was the deal for keeping the faith - decisive action in the summer. Already you get the feeling it's not going to happen. You know just how critical it is, you know the timing is huge, you know the time is now but you also know the blokes in charges will do what the fuck they want without a care in the world. If it makes sense to them then fuck everyone else.

I can't think of a single name I'd want to see here out of all the strangers being touted. Van Cash Machine and Fabrecash - those were our fucking players. They are the players who need to be here. Fucking fuck up. Over the past few seasons we've had enough to build a mega team, but never on the same pitch at the same time. Always arriving and leaving to the ring of the cash registers. Fucking joke.

Messi, I'd settle for him. That's the very least they owe us after all this shit.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Had we got Cesc in I wouldn't have necessarily cared if Santi left because I view Cesc as the better player and he's younger. It wouldn't have been ideal however as the difference isn't that great and chopping and changing a squad for minute differences is something a Chelsea or Man City do and it's disharmonious for the squad. If Santi had wanted the move it would have been less objectionable but seeing as he hasn't even made any murmurings of wanting out up to apparently now it doesn't seem like it would have ever been a feasible proposition.

At any rate now that Cesc is gone there's no way in hell we should let Santi leave. Even if throws a strop we force him to stay as we need top quality cover for Ramsey and Ozil and he provides that. Of course this probably all BS and Santi will be back for pre-season with the same grin on his face and enthusiasm he has always had.

[Zerlathon]

Easy to understand what that one is exclusive. If it was true, it would represent the biggest waste of money since any transfer involving David Luiz.

While I think Ballotelli would be a good transfer, not so keen on Hulk.

The "exclusive" is a load of bollocks anyway, and was pretty much rendered null and void (as far as I was concerned) when they wrote:

"Arsene Wenger’s side were overly reliant on Olivier Giroud as their sole option upfront for much of the 2013/14 season, with outcast Nicklas Bendtner and injury-prone youngster Yaya Sanogo providing little in the way of reliable backup options, and new signings in that position are believed to be a priority for the Frenchman this pre-season."

Did they even try and keep up with news, we released that twat in May!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Yeah I'm concerned about Hulk as well Zerlathon.


There's a reason he ended up at Zenit when he was whoring himself out whilst at Porto.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why haven't we signed Remy yet? How hard could that one be? Pick up the phone, offer a proper amount of cash, announce it to the fans so we can all say, well, okay, that's a good enough start.

[fakeyank]

Why haven't we signed Remy yet? How hard could that one be? Pick up the phone, offer a proper amount of cash, announce it to the fans so we can all say, well, okay, that's a good enough start.

:gp:

Logic and the running of Arsenal FC dont go well together.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Soceidad might sign Vela outright for around £8m

Watch us take the money.....

[KSE Comedy Club]

Were being linked with Barry again......

Fuckin Barry !?!?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just like we're always linked with Kalou. And it never happens.

[Niall_Quinn]

Just like we're always linked with Kalou. And it never happens.

But wouldn't it be safer not to be linked with him at all? Damn whoever is linking him with us.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

But wouldn't it be safer not to be linked with him at all? Damn whoever is linking him with us.

Well it's whatever appears on a tabloid's spreadsheet on any given day I think.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Remy is a logical deal but I think Wenger was probably being truthful when he sought to deflect/deflate the Remy link to us. I genuinely don't think he is interested. Or in Vela for that matter.

[Niall_Quinn]

I hope he's interested in somebody then, because when you compare our strikers with the firepower of all the teams above and around us we need that chequebook to be burning just to pull back a couple of miles of the deficit. Won't happen but we should be signing three strikers this window, not one.

[Gooner23]

Campbell looking lively for Costa Rica tonight, are we bringing him back for next season? Would be a better 3rd choice than Sanogo.

[fakeyank]

Campbell looking lively for Costa Rica tonight, are we bringing him back for next season? Would be a better 3rd choice than Sanogo.

Most likely solution to our striker problem as per Wenger. He will probably also go out and sign Kallstrom permanently.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Nah, we'll probably use the World Cup as a shop window for him.

Think of all that lovely money!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://i60.tinypic.com/ve7vrr.png

[Niall_Quinn]

http://i60.tinypic.com/ve7vrr.png

He's done us again.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Time for Mario to come home

[Globalgunner]

Time for Mario to come home

Make it so Wumger. You know he`s worth it

[fakeyank]

Time for Mario to come home

Sure, why not.. ##

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/77462989/mario.jpg

[adzzzbatch]

We've already blown it. Letting Cesc go to the chavs is catastrophic. It sends a terrible message to the players, the fans, the football community in general. It means we're not a serious club with serious ambitions and players are going to take that into account when deciding to join or stay. We're turning ourselves into a glorified training facility where we go through the hard task of building players so we can turn them over to anyone and everyone, including our supposed rivals, for a profit.

It's an absolute shambles. Sure, they could still splash some cash and get another new face in here, but a decade of being unable to keep hold of our players has taken a toll. Ramsey, Ozil, Kos, Walcott, Wilshere, Ox, and then some new faces. But for how long? Why doesn't the manager and board seem to give a shit about morale in this squad and among the fans? Or the consequences of running the place like an investment house? Signing Cesc would have cost money, sure. But the intangible rewards as well as the direct rewards on the pitch would have more than made up for it. Was he not good enough to compete with Arteta and Flamini FFS? And if Cazorla is not committed, then WTF? Are they honestly so fucking desperate for that £7mill they'll pick up from the chavs?

Really doesn't matter who we sign. The heart of this club is being stamped on season after season. By fucking bankers. The bankers in charge were given a whole season (again) and the comfort of tolerance following yet another 4th place finish. The deal was they'd show us some ambition and show us the money and the signings. So far we've lost Sagna, I think that greedy cunt was off no matter what considering we offered him deal after deal to stay, we've refused to sign back Fabregas on the cheap, we're fucking around over a £3mill fee for a bit part reserve player, talking shit with Puma about bringing in the world's biggest loser and head case, talking more shit about signing kids from Southampton - as if we have all this time to patiently go through yet another transition period. It's utter shit. Fucking arseholes. Every cunt knows what's needed so why doesn't somebody at the club find some balls and do it?

Even little things for the fans, like signing up players before the world cup so we can watch them during it - like fans from other fucking teams get to do. But this board and it has to be assumed the manager don't understand fuck about the fans. Or else they do but couldn't give a fuck anyway. The Cazorla thing is a rumour, but as I said earlier, it's so us. It's easily the most realistic rumour so far. Us losing a player rather than signing one. We're so used to it. Another fucking window and here we are, weaker than when we began. Fucking around, watching the other clubs do deals. When are they going to move? Whay do they think they have time, given what has happened in prior windows? Lessons?

Anyway, this was the deal for keeping the faith - decisive action in the summer. Already you get the feeling it's not going to happen. You know just how critical it is, you know the timing is huge, you know the time is now but you also know the blokes in charges will do what the fuck they want without a care in the world. If it makes sense to them then fuck everyone else.

I can't think of a single name I'd want to see here out of all the strangers being touted. Van Cash Machine and Fabrecash - those were our fucking players. They are the players who need to be here. Fucking fuck up. Over the past few seasons we've had enough to build a mega team, but never on the same pitch at the same time. Always arriving and leaving to the ring of the cash registers. Fucking joke.

Messi, I'd settle for him. That's the very least they owe us after all this shit.

:gp: Sums up how I feel about the whole situation and for sucks sake the FA Cup was only a month ago. This club does take the piss, yet I still give them my money!

[ARightTouch]

We've already blown it. Letting Cesc go to the chavs is catastrophic. It sends a terrible message to the players, the fans, the football community in general. It means we're not a serious club with serious ambitions and players are going to take that into account when deciding to join or stay. We're turning ourselves into a glorified training facility where we go through the hard task of building players so we can turn them over to anyone and everyone, including our supposed rivals, for a profit.

It's an absolute shambles. Sure, they could still splash some cash and get another new face in here, but a decade of being unable to keep hold of our players has taken a toll. Ramsey, Ozil, Kos, Walcott, Wilshere, Ox, and then some new faces. But for how long? Why doesn't the manager and board seem to give a shit about morale in this squad and among the fans? Or the consequences of running the place like an investment house? Signing Cesc would have cost money, sure. But the intangible rewards as well as the direct rewards on the pitch would have more than made up for it. Was he not good enough to compete with Arteta and Flamini FFS? And if Cazorla is not committed, then WTF? Are they honestly so fucking desperate for that £7mill they'll pick up from the chavs?

Really doesn't matter who we sign. The heart of this club is being stamped on season after season. By fucking bankers. The bankers in charge were given a whole season (again) and the comfort of tolerance following yet another 4th place finish. The deal was they'd show us some ambition and show us the money and the signings. So far we've lost Sagna, I think that greedy cunt was off no matter what considering we offered him deal after deal to stay, we've refused to sign back Fabregas on the cheap, we're fucking around over a £3mill fee for a bit part reserve player, talking shit with Puma about bringing in the world's biggest loser and head case, talking more shit about signing kids from Southampton - as if we have all this time to patiently go through yet another transition period. It's utter shit. Fucking arseholes. Every cunt knows what's needed so why doesn't somebody at the club find some balls and do it?

Even little things for the fans, like signing up players before the world cup so we can watch them during it - like fans from other fucking teams get to do. But this board and it has to be assumed the manager don't understand fuck about the fans. Or else they do but couldn't give a fuck anyway. The Cazorla thing is a rumour, but as I said earlier, it's so us. It's easily the most realistic rumour so far. Us losing a player rather than signing one. We're so used to it. Another fucking window and here we are, weaker than when we began. Fucking around, watching the other clubs do deals. When are they going to move? Whay do they think they have time, given what has happened in prior windows? Lessons?

Anyway, this was the deal for keeping the faith - decisive action in the summer. Already you get the feeling it's not going to happen. You know just how critical it is, you know the timing is huge, you know the time is now but you also know the blokes in charges will do what the fuck they want without a care in the world. If it makes sense to them then fuck everyone else.

I can't think of a single name I'd want to see here out of all the strangers being touted. Van Cash Machine and Fabrecash - those were our fucking players. They are the players who need to be here. Fucking fuck up. Over the past few seasons we've had enough to build a mega team, but never on the same pitch at the same time. Always arriving and leaving to the ring of the cash registers. Fucking joke.

Messi, I'd settle for him. That's the very least they owe us after all this shit.

Epic post, agree so much with all that

I think we should have got Fabrecash back and sold Cashorla

lol @ Van Cash Machine

[Niall_Quinn]

Latest Arsenal transfer activity...

Tommy is off apparently. Man Utd the most likely destination. Those Manc bastards are mad, why do they buy our players one at a time? Couldn't they plan things a bit better and try for a buy one, get one free - or a bulk buy discount. Too much money in football, the basic housekeeping rules have been forgotten.

[Power n Glory]

We've already blown it. Letting Cesc go to the chavs is catastrophic. It sends a terrible message to the players, the fans, the football community in general. It means we're not a serious club with serious ambitions and players are going to take that into account when deciding to join or stay. We're turning ourselves into a glorified training facility where we go through the hard task of building players so we can turn them over to anyone and everyone, including our supposed rivals, for a profit.

It's an absolute shambles. Sure, they could still splash some cash and get another new face in here, but a decade of being unable to keep hold of our players has taken a toll. Ramsey, Ozil, Kos, Walcott, Wilshere, Ox, and then some new faces. But for how long? Why doesn't the manager and board seem to give a shit about morale in this squad and among the fans? Or the consequences of running the place like an investment house? Signing Cesc would have cost money, sure. But the intangible rewards as well as the direct rewards on the pitch would have more than made up for it. Was he not good enough to compete with Arteta and Flamini FFS? And if Cazorla is not committed, then WTF? Are they honestly so fucking desperate for that £7mill they'll pick up from the chavs?

Really doesn't matter who we sign. The heart of this club is being stamped on season after season. By fucking bankers. The bankers in charge were given a whole season (again) and the comfort of tolerance following yet another 4th place finish. The deal was they'd show us some ambition and show us the money and the signings. So far we've lost Sagna, I think that greedy cunt was off no matter what considering we offered him deal after deal to stay, we've refused to sign back Fabregas on the cheap, we're fucking around over a £3mill fee for a bit part reserve player, talking shit with Puma about bringing in the world's biggest loser and head case, talking more shit about signing kids from Southampton - as if we have all this time to patiently go through yet another transition period. It's utter shit. Fucking arseholes. Every cunt knows what's needed so why doesn't somebody at the club find some balls and do it?

Even little things for the fans, like signing up players before the world cup so we can watch them during it - like fans from other fucking teams get to do. But this board and it has to be assumed the manager don't understand fuck about the fans. Or else they do but couldn't give a fuck anyway. The Cazorla thing is a rumour, but as I said earlier, it's so us. It's easily the most realistic rumour so far. Us losing a player rather than signing one. We're so used to it. Another fucking window and here we are, weaker than when we began. Fucking around, watching the other clubs do deals. When are they going to move? Whay do they think they have time, given what has happened in prior windows? Lessons?

Anyway, this was the deal for keeping the faith - decisive action in the summer. Already you get the feeling it's not going to happen. You know just how critical it is, you know the timing is huge, you know the time is now but you also know the blokes in charges will do what the fuck they want without a care in the world. If it makes sense to them then fuck everyone else.

I can't think of a single name I'd want to see here out of all the strangers being touted. Van Cash Machine and Fabrecash - those were our fucking players. They are the players who need to be here. Fucking fuck up. Over the past few seasons we've had enough to build a mega team, but never on the same pitch at the same time. Always arriving and leaving to the ring of the cash registers. Fucking joke.

Messi, I'd settle for him. That's the very least they owe us after all this shit.

Totally agree. It really hurt to see RVP score that goal for Holland. That last part of your post really hit home. We're being fucked over by the people running this club.

[Munchies]

Cesc: "Arsenal was first option, but Wenger said he had Ozil at my position. I had 2-3 other options in England, Mourinho won me over."

Cesc: "Move to Chelsea? I have nothing to say. I decided it was time to leave Barça and I looked for the best option for me."

[Niall_Quinn]

Sad fact is, watching Joel Campbell has been the highlight so far. Our player in name only but at least there is a tenuous connection to the more exciting and noteworthy happenings in the normal world and outside the Arsenal bubble. That said, if he did join the squad I wonder how long it would be before he stopped making those runs, stopped being adventurous, stopped firing in rockets at every sniff?

[Niall_Quinn]

Cesc: "Arsenal was first option, but Wenger said he had Ozil at my position. I had 2-3 other options in England, Mourinho won me over."

Cesc: "Move to Chelsea? I have nothing to say. I decided it was time to leave Barça and I looked for the best option for me."

Barca have Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Busquets and plenty more. But somehow they manage.

[Power n Glory]

Cesc: "Arsenal was first option, but Wenger said he had Ozil at my position. I had 2-3 other options in England, Mourinho won me over."

Cesc: "Move to Chelsea? I have nothing to say. I decided it was time to leave Barça and I looked for the best option for me."

Sauce?

[Munchies]

Sauce?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/15/cesc-fabregas-arsene-wenger-arsenal-chelsea

[Power n Glory]

:doh:

Ozil has a lot to live up to this season. I don't even think he'll be around beyond his current contract.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Imagine we got Suarez instead of Ozil last season, then bought Cesc this summer..

[KSE Comedy Club]

Imagine we got Suarez instead of Ozil last season, then bought Cesc this summer..

Please......don't.


:ilt:

[Munchies]

Imagine we got Suarez instead of Ozil last season, then bought Cesc this summer..

:ilt:

[ARightTouch]

Imagine we got Suarez instead of Ozil last season, then bought Cesc this summer..

:drool:

:doh:

[Munchies]

https://twitter.com/oierfano

Griezmann very close to sign for Real Madrid. [@oierfano]

Translated

Griezmann and the #realmadrid will discuss next week. Dismiss Arsenal and PSG. Today, at the World Cup. #animacomonunca1 #realsociedad Arsenal has already lost Griezmann and PSG, which seemed that it would be, looking for a Hazard before July 1.

:arry:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That must mean Wenger had no intention of playing him in central midfield then. Either way, oh well.

[AFC Leveller]

Imagine we got Suarez instead of Ozil last season, then bought Cesc this summer..

Jizz. Pure Jizz.

The problem was and will still be is that the club/manager will NOT buy what the team needs.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Marketing :doh:

They've already got Di Maria, Bale and Ronaldo. Why do they need him? Don't do a Chelsea and just stockpile quality players to stop other teams getting them.

I hope Greizzman realises that and decides against a move there instead though sadly I think the money will have it's say here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Hopefully it means Di Maria is on the way out.

[GP]

Yeah I'd take di Maria if he's surplus....

[Gooner23]

Yeah I'd take di Maria if he's surplus....

If we could somehow land Di Maria or Sanchez it would be immense.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Marketing are duty bound to respond to Barca signing...well anybody really. In terms of an arm race between them, not quite the highest quality version so far.

[Niall_Quinn]

Marketing are duty bound to respond to Barca signing...well anybody really. In terms of an arm race between them, not quite the highest quality version so far.

I think they are putting off the campaign to unsettle various teams and illegally tap up players until after the WC.

[selassie]

https://twitter.com/oierfano

Griezmann very close to sign for Real Madrid. [@oierfano]

Translated


:arry:

I think we missed the boat with Griezmann, his value will rocket now he is first choice for France in the world cup. We'll be left picking up the scraps as usual. You would have thought our team/squad was near perfect the way we operate in the market. :rolleyes:

[Niall_Quinn]

I think we missed the boat with Griezmann, his value will rocket now he is first choice for France in the world cup. We'll be left picking up the scraps as usual. You would have thought our team/squad was near perfect the way we operate in the market. :rolleyes:

Don't really need him anyway. But Pogba is the player we have needed for 10 years. Getting him would improve every other player on the team. That's my #1 target now. Wanted to see him play before buying into all the fuss. But definitely the real deal, our long awaited replacement for Vieria. He's even better than Flamini and Kallstrom.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

It was bound to be an easy game for him, but I thought Rio Mavuba, who I've liked for a long time looked really disciplined.

[selassie]

Don't really need him anyway. But Pogba is the player we have needed for 10 years. Getting him would improve every other player on the team. That's my #1 target now. Wanted to see him play before buying into all the fuss. But definitely the real deal, our long awaited replacement for Vieria. He's even better than Flamini and Kallstrom.

Yeah I agree. Pogba is a top class player, pretty much the complete midfielder.

He'll go for big bucks when he leaves Juve for presumably Real Madrid or one of the elite clubs.

[Power n Glory]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10902101/Arsenal-captain-Thomas-Vermaelen-agrees-deal-to-join-Manchester-United-this-summer.html

Vermaelen has somehow agreed personal terms with United despite being under contract to us. ;)

No idea what's going on with Verm but there is no way in hell we can sell him to United. A line has to be drawn somewhere and we're short on defenders as it is.

[selassie]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10902101/Arsenal-captain-Thomas-Vermaelen-agrees-deal-to-join-Manchester-United-this-summer.html

Vermaelen has somehow agreed personal terms with United despite being under contract to us. ;)

No idea what's going on with Verm but there is no way in hell we can sell him to United. A line has to be drawn somewhere and we're short on defenders as it is.

Yeah this story is everywhere.

I am with you on this, whilst Verms isn't first choice here he still has a lot to offer and is a relatively experienced International defender.

It makes no sense to lose him unless we replace him with a player of the same ability and experience. If it means we have 3 experienced CB's fighting it out for 2 spots then so be it.

[Power n Glory]

We're just making more work for ourselves if we sell. Would also be an absolute shambles to sell to Utd. We can't keep strengthening our rivals.

[Injury Time]

We're just making more work for ourselves if we sell. Would also be an absolute shambles to sell to Utd. We can't keep strengthening our rivals.

Are you new? Thank you for your interest in our affairs. :coffee:

[selassie]

We're just making more work for ourselves if we sell. Would also be an absolute shambles to sell to Utd. We can't keep strengthening our rivals.

This!

If we had a history of doing business efficiently and replacing like for like then I would have no problems with Vermaelen or Monreal leaving.

The issue is we don't and will most likely leave gaping holes in the squad. Not through wanting to but through our inability to swiftly move and get business done.

We make hard work of signing primary targets for positions that we need to fill, signing players for backup roles feels like it is completely beyond us at the moment.

Maybe it is just me but I have this horrible feeling we have no strategy whatsoever this summer in regards to player recruitment.

[Munchies]

Should keep him ffs

Decent defender and a good left back in place of Monreal who's shit.

The board probably see the £6m+ which we'd get for him and do the deal.

[Injury Time]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10902101/Arsenal-captain-Thomas-Vermaelen-agrees-deal-to-join-Manchester-United-this-summer.html

Vermaelen has somehow agreed personal terms with United despite being under contract to us. ;)

No idea what's going on with Verm but there is no way in hell we can sell him to United. A line has to be drawn somewhere and we're short on defenders as it is.

verm to be swapped for Nani (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/06/16/exclusive-arsenal-to-demand-9m-man-united-star-in-return-for-thomas-vermaelen/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=exclusive-arsenal-to-demand-9m-man-united-star-in-return-for-thomas-vermaelen)
:blink:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Man Utd can fuck off. There's no need at all to sell him.

[Niall_Quinn]

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[Power n Glory]

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:haha: Wicked.

[selassie]

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:haha: :haha: :clap:

[Injury Time]

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*that the link doesn't work, other than that welcome to the Arsenal scouting for sales team

[Munchies]

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:haha:

[Injury Time]

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/06/16/on-this-day-chelsea-close-on-amazing-double-deal-and-barca-prepa/?
I see NQ has been busy, "new" link Kos to Barca for 13m *kerching!*

[adzzzbatch]

Yes lets sell everyone!!

[Munchies]

Whilst we're at it, get rid of Monreal too

We genuinely need like 7 players in now.

1 GK
2 CBs
1 RB
1 CDM
1 LW
1 CF

[Özim]

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:lol:

[Grebbo]

We're just making more work for ourselves if we sell. Would also be an absolute shambles to sell to Utd. We can't keep strengthening our rivals.

Strengthening our rivals?? Vermaelen is crap! He can't even get into our average team. This is pay back for Silvestre!

Everyone needs to calm down, we'll sign quality this summer for sure. You don't sign Ozil for £42m one summer and scrape around in the bargain basement the following summer. I expect at least one £30m+ signing.

Joel Campbell also looks like a very decent addition to the squad for next season. Fabregas to Chelsea, well I'm heartbroken about that but Wenger's worked with him since Fab was 16 yrs old so he knows him pretty well. If he turned down the chance to sign him then so be it.

[Power n Glory]

Strengthening our rivals?? Vermaelen is crap! He can't even get into our average team. This is pay back for Silvestre!

Everyone needs to calm down, we'll sign quality this summer for sure. You don't sign Ozil for £42m one summer and scrape around in the bargain basement the following summer. I expect at least one £30m+ signing.

Joel Campbell also looks like a very decent addition to the squad for next season. Fabregas to Chelsea, well I'm heartbroken about that but Wenger's worked with him since Fab was 16 yrs old so he knows him pretty well. If he turned down the chance to sign him then so be it.

There is always one. Vermaelen has his flaws but he is nowhere near the level of Silvestre. That's a player that gives them cover for CB and LB. Cover we'll lose. I don't care if he's a flawed player, we shouldn't be doing business with United again.

[Özim]

Strengthening our rivals?? Vermaelen is crap! He can't even get into our average team. This is pay back for Silvestre!

Everyone needs to calm down, we'll sign quality this summer for sure. You don't sign Ozil for £42m one summer and scrape around in the bargain basement the following summer. I expect at least one £30m+ signing.

Joel Campbell also looks like a very decent addition to the squad for next season. Fabregas to Chelsea, well I'm heartbroken about that but Wenger's worked with him since Fab was 16 yrs old so he knows him pretty well. If he turned down the chance to sign him then so be it.

Yeah come on Vermaelen isn't perfect, but Silvestre he is not, the geriatric was an awful defender way past his best prone to making huge errors throughout his career. Fergie played a blinder with that one.

[Injury Time]

There is always one. Vermaelen has his flaws but he is nowhere near the level of Silvestre. That's a player that gives them cover for CB and LB. Cover we'll lose. I don't care if he's a flawed player, we shouldn't be doing business with United again.
His agent responds....

http://goonertalk.com/2014/06/16/thomas-vermaelens-agent-denies-agreement-manchester-united/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=thomas-vermaelens-agent-denies-agreement-manchester-united

[Munchies]

That's the difference between other teams and Wenger.

Maureen wouldn't loan us an out of form Demba Ba.

The only player Fergie ever gave us was Silvestre, who Wenger started against Barcelona at the Nou Camp :haha: . No wonder it took so long for us to win a trophy.

[Power n Glory]

His agent responds....

http://goonertalk.com/2014/06/16/thomas-vermaelens-agent-denies-agreement-manchester-united/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=thomas-vermaelens-agent-denies-agreement-manchester-united

The agents done his job and denied contact. But I wonder if we’ll do ours and refuse to sell.

[selassie]

Everyone needs to calm down, we'll sign quality this summer for sure. You don't sign Ozil for £42m one summer and scrape around in the bargain basement the following summer. I expect at least one £30m+ signing.



We actually did that last summer Grebbo...signed Ozil then picked up Flamini off the scrapheap and Sanogo who at the time was crocked and is still very much a "work in progress".

Believe me, nothing surprises me with this club and it's transfer policy.

[Power n Glory]

We knew we needed a quality striker last summer and did nothing about it in the two windows we had to solve the problem. Since signing Ozil, we signed some over the hill bum with a dodgy back, passed up the opportunity to sign Cesc and allowed Sagna to walk on a free to Man City. I can't be 100% certain that the Ozil deal wasn't just a one off when looking at our recent actions.

[Marc Overmars]

I'm not certain either given a lot of our recent signings seem to have been opportunistic rather than planned and identified in advance.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Express have small section saying we have lodged 25mil bid for Mario Balotelli.....feck it, let's go for it

[Xhaka Can’t]

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Bravo! :clap:

[Power n Glory]

Express have small section saying we have lodged 25mil bid for Mario Balotelli.....feck it, let's go for it

I hope we pull this off. All the potential to be a great striker.

[Injury Time]

Santi needs to drop wages to move to Spain
>>Wenger will respect this approach<< (http://http://www.squawka.com/news/reports-santi-cazorlas-move-to-atletico-stalls-over-the-arsenal-midfielders-wage-demands/125185?)
FFS who does he think he is Cesc? :sulk:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Strengthening our rivals?? Vermaelen is crap! He can't even get into our average team. This is pay back for Silvestre!

Everyone needs to calm down, we'll sign quality this summer for sure. You don't sign Ozil for £42m one summer and scrape around in the bargain basement the following summer. I expect at least one £30m+ signing.

Joel Campbell also looks like a very decent addition to the squad for next season. Fabregas to Chelsea, well I'm heartbroken about that but Wenger's worked with him since Fab was 16 yrs old so he knows him pretty well. If he turned down the chance to sign him then so be it.

As Selassie suggests..... we were rummaging through the garbage in the same summer we signed Ozil, even though we didn't need to be and had every reason not to be....

Is anyone positive we will sign quality even close to that of Fabrgeas despite his position not being a priority? Le grove banging on about some fabled signing that will blow our socks off whilst Fabregas is signing for our direct rivals.

We will probably get close to the start of the season sign half the number of players we actually need to and just be thankful to be getting any players at all after slowly getting fed up all summer.

[Zerlathon]

As Selassie suggests..... we were rummaging through the garbage in the same summer we signed Ozil, even though we didn't need to be and had every reason not to be....

Is anyone positive we will sign quality even close to that of Fabrgeas despite his position not being a priority? Le grove banging on about some fabled signing that will blow our socks off whilst Fabregas is signing for our direct rivals.

We will probably get close to the start of the season sign half the number of players we actually need to and just be thankful to be getting any players at all after slowly getting fed up all summer.

Whilst I am a firm believer that we dropped a major clanger in not bringing Fabs back, I absolutely refuse to believe that this has summed up our transfer dealings as a failure (at least for the moment anyhow).

Does it leave me disappointed that Chelsea have pretty much got the most pressing deals done before the WC started? Sure it did...
Does it make me almost pull my hair out in despair that we have inadvertently helped 2 of the top 4 strengthen? Yup, I feel like a bit of a baldi-locks right now!
Am I left wondering if anything is being done behind those big solid oak doors of the boardroom? I traded a season pass for a ticket to that bandwagon!

Perhaps I'm being a bit of an optimist, or I'm simply desperately clinging onto some dream that we will actually come out alot stronger during this transfer window. But I have this little (teeny tiny) feeling that we are going to be in for a pleasant surprise as the WC reaches its climax (as more teams get knocked out).

The new fitness coach was a decision that needed to be made urgently, and to an extent one could even argue that this was more pressing that any Players. Now if we are able to tie up deals for Balotelli, Griezmann/ Draxler, Pogba and Aurier then I would be 1 happy Gooner!

Yes, yes... I know I'm dreaming! But there's no harm in dreaming is there? We've all made little lists on the 1st things we would buy if we ever won the Euromillions right? ;D

[Niall_Quinn]

Whilst I am a firm believer that we dropped a major clanger in not bringing Fabs back, I absolutely refuse to believe that this has summed up our transfer dealings as a failure (at least for the moment anyhow).

Does it leave me disappointed that Chelsea have pretty much got the most pressing deals done before the WC started? Sure it did...
Does it make me almost pull my hair out in despair that we have inadvertently helped 2 of the top 4 strengthen? Yup, I feel like a bit of a baldi-locks right now!
Am I left wondering if anything is being done behind those big solid oak doors of the boardroom? I traded a season pass for a ticket to that bandwagon!

Perhaps I'm being a bit of an optimist, or I'm simply desperately clinging onto some dream that we will actually come out alot stronger during this transfer window. But I have this little (teeny tiny) feeling that we are going to be in for a pleasant surprise as the WC reaches its climax (as more teams get knocked out).

The new fitness coach was a decision that needed to be made urgently, and to an extent one could even argue that this was more pressing that any Players. Now if we are able to tie up deals for Balotelli, Griezmann/ Draxler, Pogba and Aurier then I would be 1 happy Gooner!

Yes, yes... I know I'm dreaming! But there's no harm in dreaming is there? We've all made little lists on the 1st things we would buy if we ever won the Euromillions right? ;D

Nah, I don't think it's hope or a dream, just a realisation that after a decade waiting for this financial plan to mature it's beyond credence they'd try to back out and stuff the money in their own pockets. If they don't spend and strengthen to the point we can seriously challenge then everything has been worthless except for a few greedy bastards. The fans will have been fucked and fucked hard. Unless the board plan to make a quick getaway there's no way they can piss people off to such an extent and hope to get away with it. We'll spend. Question is, who we'll spend it on? Kalou, Barry and Milner will not be acceptable.

[fakeyank]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/mario-balotellis-arsenal-transfer-moves-3707566

Looks like Balo is coming home :lol:

[Munchies]

Mail saying that if Vermaelen goes to United, we're asking for CLEVERLEY in return .

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Mail saying that if Vermaelen goes to United, we're asking for CLEVERLEY in return .

:haha:

Quite a pile of made up shit they have going on at that "news" paper

[Grebbo]

We actually did that last summer Grebbo...signed Ozil then picked up Flamini off the scrapheap and Sanogo who at the time was crocked and is still very much a "work in progress".

Believe me, nothing surprises me with this club and it's transfer policy.

That's not what I meant. I'm fine with signing one truly world class player* each summer along with a couple of squad fillers. By doing this we'll have a world class team in 11 yrs time!

* Ozil was world class but clearly hasn't adapted to the Prem, hopefully he will.

[Grebbo]

There is always one. Vermaelen has his flaws but he is nowhere near the level of Silvestre. That's a player that gives them cover for CB and LB. Cover we'll lose. I don't care if he's a flawed player, we shouldn't be doing business with United again.

Ok so I'm the only one who thinks Verm is crap? Sure he's not Silvestre crap but he still scares the crap out of me when he's on the team sheet against top 6 opposition + the scrappers of the league. Against mid table fodder he's fine.

If Utd think Verms is the answer to replacing Rio and Vidic then let them have him!

[Bumble]

Even worse than selling vermaelen to United is now, the news that we are looking to involve cleverly in a swap deal. Madness, we don't have space to bring fabregas back into our midfield but cleverly no problem. Luckily it's from the mirror so bound to be rubbish.

It would be odd to get rid of vermaelen as we would. Lose cb and lb cover. With Sagna gone we lost our main rb and also cb cover. So at this rate defence will become more of a priority to strengthen before attack.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Ok so I'm the only one who thinks Verm is crap? Sure he's not Silvestre crap but he still scares the crap out of me when he's on the team sheet against top 6 opposition + the scrappers of the league. Against mid table fodder he's fine.

If Utd think Verms is the answer to replacing Rio and Vidic then let them have him!
I think Verms is good cover - for that he is the quality we require an I would hate to see that walk out the door.

I'm not expecting us to have top quality cover in every position - but Verm is optimal quality in such a role and we need more, not less of that if we hope to challenge for the title.

[Power n Glory]

Ok so I'm the only one who thinks Verm is crap? Sure he's not Silvestre crap but he still scares the crap out of me when he's on the team sheet against top 6 opposition + the scrappers of the league. Against mid table fodder he's fine.

If Utd think Verms is the answer to replacing Rio and Vidic then let them have him!

You’re talking as if we’re selling them Djourou or Squillaci. As French said, Veramelen is a good cover player for us. When called upon last season, he didn’t make a lot of costly mistakes and nowhere near as bad as past players that just couldn’t be trusted to even come on for 5 minutes. He’s a flawed player but not terrible. Yes, United need to replace Rio and Vidic but why do you think we’d be selling them a dud? He has Prem experience, knows the opposing teams, is used to the physicality of the Prem, used to the pace, used to the gruelling schedule….if they look for someone outside of the Prem, they’re more likely to sign an expensive dud that will have problems adapting to the league. If they were to approach one of the lower league teams, they’d have to pay a premium fee. Why make it so easy for them? It send out the wrong message to sell another captain to Utd and it weakens us.

[selassie]

That's not what I meant. I'm fine with signing one truly world class player* each summer along with a couple of squad fillers. By doing this we'll have a world class team in 11 yrs time!

* Ozil was world class but clearly hasn't adapted to the Prem, hopefully he will.

I personally don't think that is enough, moreover we need to geniunely sign quality in all positions, I am not for one minute suggesting every purchase should be a world class player but as an example the bare minimum this summer should be as follows;

1. Top Class Striker (the best we can get)
2. International Quality Right Back
3. International Quality Striker (backup)
4. International Quality Defensive Midfielder, though we should aim high.

***

5. Replacement for Vermaelen?
6. Replacement for Cazorla?

If we take for example your suggestion of just signing one World Class Player, for example a Striker like say Balotelli, then signing a couple of squad fillers like say Kalou and a young unknown Right Back that will not be enough for us this summer IMHO.

[Marc Overmars]

You’re talking as if we’re selling them Djourou or Squillaci. As French said, Veramelen is a good cover player for us. When called upon last season, he didn’t make a lot of costly mistakes and nowhere near as bad as past players that just couldn’t be trusted to even come on for 5 minutes. He’s a flawed player but not terrible. Yes, United need to replace Rio and Vidic but why do you think we’d be selling them a dud? He has Prem experience, knows the opposing teams, is used to the physicality of the Prem, used to the pace, used to the gruelling schedule….if they look for someone outside of the Prem, they’re more likely to sign an expensive dud that will have problems adapting to the league. If they were to approach one of the lower league teams, they’d have to pay a premium fee. Why make it so easy for them? It send out the wrong message to sell another captain to Utd and it weakens us.

Agreed. This is certainly not on the same level as when we took Silvestre from them. Vermaelen is a good CB and would be a starter for most clubs in the league. He was just unfortunate that a bad patch of form coincided with Koscielny becoming a beast. As far as 3rd choice CB's go, we won't find many better that's for sure. It's almost a guaranteed downgrade should we have to replace him.

Wouldn't begrudge him a move though, he's good enough to play every week and he hasn't moaned about it. Just a pity about who we decide to accept offers from.

[Grebbo]

I personally don't think that is enough, moreover we need to geniunely sign quality in all positions, I am not for one minute suggesting every purchase should be a world class player but as an example the bare minimum this summer should be as follows;

1. Top Class Striker (the best we can get)
2. International Quality Right Back
3. International Quality Striker (backup)
4. International Quality Defensive Midfielder, though we should aim high.

***

5. Replacement for Vermaelen?
6. Replacement for Cazorla?

If we take for example your suggestion of just signing one World Class Player, for example a Striker like say Balotelli, then signing a couple of squad fillers like say Kalou and a young unknown Right Back that will not be enough for us this summer IMHO.

I'm of the opposite opinion. I think one world class player can make all the difference. Look at Liverpool last season with Suarez. Surely we'd of won the league if we managed to sign him last summer.

RVP and Manure.

I think we're a world class striker away from challenging.

Also...

1. Top Class Striker (the best we can get) AGREE
2. International Quality Right Back AGREE
3. Surely Giroud and Campbell are good enough back up? The days of needing 4 strikers are over seeing as every team plays 451 now.
4. International Quality Defensive Midfielder, though we should aim high. BONUS

[Globalgunner]

This shows an inherent flaw in Wengers policies. We should be playing Vermaelen in more games. He should be rotated with the other 2 CBs in a lot of the lower profile games. If we played 50 games last season. Verms is good enough to have started at least 20 of them. That is what a squad is all about. Wenger plays his first 11 always and invariably plays them to exhaustion. It is not only good for morale. it keeps everyone on their toes. We should persuade him to sign on a new contract with promises of 15 starts a season. Hes worth it

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I hope we pull this off. All the potential to be a great striker.

Yeah, I've really warmed to the idea - still needs a bit of work, but he's got all the ingredients there to be the complete striker: big, quick, strong, can hold the ball up well or sprint onto passes, scores poachers goals or can spank them in from distance, scores with his feet and his head, is capable of producing a moment of magic, and is still only 23. If it wasn't for the question marks about his temperament, then you'd have to say he ticks a lot more boxes than anyone else we've been linked with?

Interesting watching him against England the other day - he does look like he's calmed down a lot on the pitch. If anything, he might have gone too far the other way now, and become a little too calm and casual (although to be fair to him he still managed to score the winner, and was a goal line clearance away from scoring one of the goals of the tournaments)! He needs to find a happy medium between those two sides of his character - if he can get a bit of that old fire back into his play, but in a constructive and controlled way, then he'll be a real player. Also, I think De Rossi was right when he said that he needs to work on his movement a little bit more, but I think he'd be in the right place to learn that if he came here - we managed to do it with Henry and van Persie, and Balotelli probably has less to learn about the role of a CF than those two did when we put them there...

[Marc Overmars]

Balotelli would be targeted by the media and also the opposition, so that's my only reservation with him. I'd say it's impossible not to expect some sort of hoo-ha to come our way. In terms of ability though there's no doubt he would be an asset. Just a question on whether he's ready to mature and fulfil his potential.

[Zerlathon]

Balotelli would be targeted by the media and also the opposition, so that's my only reservation with him. I'd say it's impossible not to expect some sort of hoo-ha to come our way. In terms of ability though there's no doubt he would be an asset. Just a question on whether he's ready to mature and fulfil his potential.

The thing is, Ballotelli also had Mancini throwing him under the bus at every opportunity. So he never really had any "support", the same has happened at Milan. Wenger is not the kind of Manager, that's why I think Balotelli will become a better Player under Wenger.

[Power n Glory]

Balotelli would be targeted by the media and also the opposition, so that's my only reservation with him. I'd say it's impossible not to expect some sort of hoo-ha to come our way. In terms of ability though there's no doubt he would be an asset. Just a question on whether he's ready to mature and fulfil his potential.

Some players come with that risk. I can see Diego Costa causing headlines with his antics over at Chelsea, but they bought him anyway. Mario may be maturing. He’s still only 23.

[Grebbo]

My concern with Balotelli (other than the fact he's nuts) is his work rate. There's a reason Man City sold him, they didn't need the cash.

City fans view him as an excellent finisher but not much of a runner and a pain off the pitch.

Maybe marriage will calm him down!

I'd rather have Benzema but wouldn't be unhappy if we signed Balotelli. It will be interesting if nothing else!

[Kano]

i used to think balotelli was an utter dick but someway, somehow i’ve warmed to the guy. he obviously has huge potential, the speed, finishing and physicality to do really well in the prem. he’s the type of player that needs to be loved, needs consistent starts and the sort of manager like wenger who will always defend him. the problem will be his temperament which will be risk on a field with people winding him up. he’s like a new anelka and i think his lack of loyalty may be a similar issue too. £25m would be a steal in terms of current market prices.

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Balotelli would be targeted by the media and also the opposition, so that's my only reservation with him. I'd say it's impossible not to expect some sort of hoo-ha to come our way. In terms of ability though there's no doubt he would be an asset. Just a question on whether he's ready to mature and fulfil his potential.

It's inevitable that he's going to slip up at some point - no one is ever fully immune to provocation, no matter how much you mature - so for me it's more about whether he's ready to fulfill his potential, and whether his output as a player starts to outweigh the occasional crazy moment (look at what people are prepared to forgive with Suarez and Costa).

To be fair to him though, I haven't actually heard of him doing anything that mental on the pitch for quite a while now? I can't even remember too many instances of him getting really wound up by an opponent? It's always been more about the bizarre things he gets up to in his personal life, but if he can cut all of that stuff out, then I'm not sure he'd actually be that bad?

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i used to think balotelli was an utter dick but someway, somehow i’ve warmed to the guy. he obviously has huge potential, the speed, finishing and physicality to do really well in the prem. he’s the type of player that needs to be loved, needs consistent starts and the sort of manager like wenger who will always defend him. the problem will be his temperament which will be risk on a field with people winding him up. he’s like a new anelka and i think his lack of loyalty may be a similar issue too. £25m would be a steal in terms of current market prices.

I think part of the reason that I've warmed to him is that he actually has a bit of character and personality! Feels like a bit of a rarity with footballers these days...

[Niall_Quinn]

If we sell our captain to Utd we might as well pack up and call it a day. Tommy is a good defender, but he got unlucky being the odd man out in the partnership that formed between Kos and Merts. It's a bloody miracle we kept those two on the pitch for as long as we did last season, very, very unlike us. We're riding that luck to expect the same next season so we'll need quality cover. We already have it in Tommy. He's our fucking captain FFS! How can we even be contemplating selling him to Utd?

If he wants a move for the game time then I'd be fine with that because he's been a model pro and served his time on the sidelines with good grace. But he cannot be sold to a rival we've finally managed to get a jump on. Utd will come back strongly next year now that the idiot Moyes is out of the picture. It's not our job to be lending them a helping hand. I can't believe it's being contemplated. The answer should always be no, fuck off and die you cunts whenever Utd, the chavs or the gypos come calling. That should be our standard reply to any form of communication they try to initiate. They are the fucking enemy and when are the senior staff at this club going to understand that?

I hear Barca are interested, why wouldn't he go there? That's the deal we should be pushing and while we are at it lets see who we can get in return. Where's the brains in this operation when it comes to transfer windows and is there anyone there who understands even a fraction of the fans' views in these things? It's like the old Politbyuro, tucked away in their classical surroundings without a clue of the wider world.

And this business about Cleverley, is that some sort of sick joke? Fuck off Fabregas, we have Ozil. Well helllooo Cleverley, welcome to Arsenal you turd who's not fit to lace Cesc's boots? WTF? And that Smalling guy who was dreadful all last season? Why do we need him when we already have Tommy Vermaelen? What the fuck is going on at that place?

[Globalgunner]

Nobody knows exactly what they are smoking up at the Emirates

[Özim]

Cuba's finest cigars apparently.

[selassie]

The thing is, Ballotelli also had Mancini throwing him under the bus at every opportunity. So he never really had any "support", the same has happened at Milan. Wenger is not the kind of Manager, that's why I think Balotelli will become a better Player under Wenger.

For sure. I have always rated Balotelli highly, even when he was on his "lunatic crusade" at Citeh the talent was there.

Once he matures, and I believe he is doing that now, he will be a beast of a player.

Developed properly Balotelli could amongst the top 5 players in the world. He has it all, pace, power, technically excellent, good with both feet, strong in the air.

He has "Wenger Project" written all over him, Wenger will turn him into absolute beast too IMO.

[selassie]

If we sell our captain to Utd we might as well pack up and call it a day. Tommy is a good defender, but he got unlucky being the odd man out in the partnership that formed between Kos and Merts. It's a bloody miracle we kept those two on the pitch for as long as we did last season, very, very unlike us. We're riding that luck to expect the same next season so we'll need quality cover. We already have it in Tommy. He's our fucking captain FFS! How can we even be contemplating selling him to Utd?

If he wants a move for the game time then I'd be fine with that because he's been a model pro and served his time on the sidelines with good grace. But he cannot be sold to a rival we've finally managed to get a jump on. Utd will come back strongly next year now that the idiot Moyes is out of the picture. It's not our job to be lending them a helping hand. I can't believe it's being contemplated. The answer should always be no, fuck off and die you cunts whenever Utd, the chavs or the gypos come calling. That should be our standard reply to any form of communication they try to initiate. They are the fucking enemy and when are the senior staff at this club going to understand that?

I hear Barca are interested, why wouldn't he go there? That's the deal we should be pushing and while we are at it lets see who we can get in return. Where's the brains in this operation when it comes to transfer windows and is there anyone there who understands even a fraction of the fans' views in these things? It's like the old Politbyuro, tucked away in their classical surroundings without a clue of the wider world.

And this business about Cleverley, is that some sort of sick joke? Fuck off Fabregas, we have Ozil. Well helllooo Cleverley, welcome to Arsenal you turd who's not fit to lace Cesc's boots? WTF? And that Smalling guy who was dreadful all last season? Why do we need him when we already have Tommy Vermaelen? What the fuck is going on at that place?

:gp:

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For sure. I have always rated Balotelli highly, even when he was on his "lunatic crusade" at Citeh the talent was there.

Once he matures, and I believe he is doing that now, he will be a beast of a player.

Developed properly Balotelli could amongst the top 5 players in the world. He has it all, pace, power, technically excellent, good with both feet, strong in the air.

He has "Wenger Project" written all over him, Wenger will turn him into absolute beast too IMO.

It wouldn't even be that much of a project this time? He's already playing at the top level, in the position we'd want him to play in, so all that's required is a bit of fine-tuning...

[Fist of Lehmann]

12 yellows and 1 red in 32 starts last season.
Whoscored list his only weakness as Discipline, in which he was "Very Weak".

Fair to say he hasn't quite shaken his proclivity for madness just yet.

Just like Pepe last night, teams and managers will think they can target him with a fair chance of him doing something stupid. I can just imagine Shawcross ploughing through the back of him like the pug-faced mutant that he is.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Comparing Costa's behaviour to Balotelli's is laughable.

[Niall_Quinn]

Draxler a no-go apparently, he's staying at Schalke.

[selassie]

It wouldn't even be that much of a project this time? He's already playing at the top level, in the position we'd want him to play in, so all that's required is a bit of fine-tuning...

Yeah not a project in the sense of making him established but a project in the sense of taking him from his current level to world class level, also sorting out his behaviour.

I agree, it's just a bit of fine-tuning.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

For the remainder of his contract? (Which is?) or has he signed an extension?

Would have been a great addition.....but the no go writing on the wall has been around for a while now

[Gooner23]

Whats with these quotes from Cazorla about him deciding his future after the World Cup. He's got 2 years left on his contract so surely 'he' won't be deciding anything! We absolutely should not sell him this summer. He came cheap and we won't get much for him now. Better to keep him for 2 years and lose on a free, by which time he'll be 31.

Fed up of us flogging 1st team players every summer.

[selassie]

For the remainder of his contract? (Which is?) or has he signed an extension?

Would have been a great addition.....but the no go writing on the wall has been around for a while now

I read that when he was interviewed about his future on German TV in February, he stated that he wanted to leave Schalke for Arsenal the previous month but was told/convinced by Schalke to stay. So it wasn't a clear cut "I turned Arsenal down" type scenario.

He also signed a new 5 year contract in May, I assume it must include a release clause again.

What is baffling is he stated very recently that he wants to stay one more year in Schalke..that is off the back of signing a new 5 year contract!!!

Link to recent quotes below...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27884475

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Comparing Costa's behaviour to Balotelli's is laughable.

That's not really what I was getting at. What I was trying to say was that, even if Balotelli has matured as a player and sorted his attitude out, there's still going to be instances where he loses control every now and then - I think that's almost inevitable when the whole footballing world sees you as an easy target, and every opponent is trying to wind you up - so at that point it becomes a question of whether his output as a player would make up for what would (hopefully) be a far more occasional losses of control? I mentioned Suarez and Costa as examples of what we might be looking at in terms of that balance: players who still have a bit of a fiery, wild side, and who occasionally do the odd stupid thing, but who make up for it by smashing in 30+ goals a season, and generally being great players. If we could get Balotelli to that same sort of level with his behaviour on the pitch - not perfect, but in control 90% of the time, and doing the business - then would that be enough to make him worthwhile?

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Draxler a no-go apparently, he's staying at Schalke.

If nothing else, I suppose it's at least some kind of evidence that we're after a player in that area (and willing to spend pretty big on it too)?

[Power n Glory]

That's not really what I was getting at. What I was trying to say was that, even if Balotelli has matured as a player and sorted his attitude out, there's still going to be instances where he loses control every now and then - I think that's almost inevitable when the whole footballing world sees you as an easy target, and every opponent is trying to wind you up - so at that point it becomes a question of whether his output as a player would make up for what would (hopefully) be a far more occasional losses of control? I mentioned Suarez and Costa as examples of what we might be looking at in terms of that balance: players who still have a bit of a fiery, wild side, and who occasionally do the odd stupid thing, but who make up for it by smashing in 30+ goals a season, and generally being great players. If we could get Balotelli to that same sort of level with his behaviour on the pitch - not perfect, but in control 90% of the time, and doing the business - then would that be enough to make him worthwhile?

:gp:

[Munchies]

We're being linked with Higuain again.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/482793/Gonzalo-Higuain-drops-exit-hint-as-Arsenal-Chelsea-and-Man-Utd-monitor-situation

Napoli want more than they paid for him.

Wenger was haggling over £27m.

No chance

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What?! Why?