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The Emirates Gallactico
25-08-2014, 10:02 PM
BBC reporting the fee to be 59.7 million. Still absolutely mental who wants to leave and shows you how desperate the Mancs are.
Munchies
25-08-2014, 10:04 PM
Mandzukic, Costa, Balotelli... strikers were out there had we made a move
We're being linked with a player called Cerci, never heard of him
Get this guy and put Ramsey upfront.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/arturo-vidal-to-manchester-united-louis-van-gaal-wants-juventus-midfielder-to-join-angel-di-maria-in-34m-deal-9690093.html
The Emirates Gallactico
25-08-2014, 10:05 PM
Could be the catalyst for Welbeck aswell? :wacko:
I'd much rather try Podolski up front instead of getting Danny Welbeck.
The Emirates Gallactico
25-08-2014, 10:07 PM
Mandzukic, Costa, Balotelli... strikers were out there had we made a move
We're being linked with a player called Cerci, never heard of him
Don't think any of those options were viable.
1) Mandzukic isn't better than Giroud.
2) We could never get Costa considering Chelsea wanted him and he has the same agent as Mourinho. That's a moot point.
3) Ballotelli's issues are well known - he's a ticking time bomb. Would be a cancer to the harmonious dressing room Wenger's developed.
selassie
25-08-2014, 10:09 PM
L'Equipe says that Giroud is out for 3 months, pretty much confirmed then? What a f*cking mess, none of us even wanted him as our starting striker and now we don't have him! Sad thing is we don't have one player that can come in and do a credible job. We have had 3 windows to sort out Centre-forward position and have done absolutely nothing, what now? Judging by who we are linked with we are left with the dregs....Welbeck? Eto'o? Remy? Cerci?
What a sad state of affairs....
Munchies
25-08-2014, 10:10 PM
Don't think any of those options were viable.
1) Mandzukic isn't better than Giroud.
2) We could never get Costa considering Chelsea wanted him and he has the same agent as Mourinho. That's a moot point.
3) Ballotelli's issues are well known - he's a ticking time bomb. Would be a cancer to the harmonious dressing room Wenger's developed.
Who else is there then? Can't think of anyone right now either
selassie
25-08-2014, 10:11 PM
Get this guy and put Ramsey upfront.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/arturo-vidal-to-manchester-united-louis-van-gaal-wants-juventus-midfielder-to-join-angel-di-maria-in-34m-deal-9690093.html
If Vidal is really available for 34million we should be all over that deal.
The Emirates Gallactico
25-08-2014, 10:11 PM
Who else is there then? Can't think of anyone right now either
Dunno.
No one for certain who would have been categorically better than Giroud which is exactly the problem we faced.
Dein-machine
25-08-2014, 10:30 PM
This time last season we all new we needed a DM & a proper striker. 3 transfer windows later, we have Artera & Giroud out with injury ( who both should be squad players ) & we have Flamini & Sonogo as direct replacements - Are we really trying to compete?
Munchies
25-08-2014, 10:42 PM
This time last season we all new we needed a DM & a proper striker. 3 transfer windows later, we have Artera & Giroud out with injury ( who both should be squad players ) & we have Flamini & Sonogo as direct replacements - Are we really trying to compete?
:gp:
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
25-08-2014, 10:43 PM
Mandzukic, Costa, Balotelli... strikers were out there had we made a move
We're being linked with a player called Cerci, never heard of him
Costa isn't better than Giroud
:haha: :haha: :haha:
Marc Overmars
25-08-2014, 11:00 PM
Hope these reports on Bif aren't true.
But hopefully it forces Wenget into the market though.
Niall_Quinn
25-08-2014, 11:29 PM
Looked up Cerci - he's a second tier winger/ striker with a very average goal scoring record, average assist record and an early career plagued by injury, although he seems to have overcome that in the last two seasons. 27 years old, 13 caps for Italy (no goals).
Sounds like a like for like replacement for Giroud if there's any truth to our interest.
Welbeck would give us nothing. Remy wants all our money. Eto'o would be a bigger joke than Balotelli. But we know Wenger, he'll go with Sanogo and hope Alexis beds in and Walcott hits the ground running. Would rather he do that than waste money on garbage but would prefer us to for once say fuck it and chase Cavani or Falcao, turn adversity into a triumph for a change (instead of compounding it).
Who'd have thought the two key positions where we need strengthening would so quickly fall apart. Only Arsenal fans I suppose.
Niall_Quinn
25-08-2014, 11:32 PM
Podolski has to stay now, surely? If Bif is out for months.
Which is why I'm confident he'll be sold.
Thierrymon
26-08-2014, 03:13 AM
Podolski has to stay now, surely? If Bif is out for months.
Which is why I'm confident he'll be sold.
Its funny cause it's true.
Injury Time
26-08-2014, 06:05 AM
Manolas to join Roma :blink:
Bumble
26-08-2014, 06:32 AM
If we don't sign another forward... I think Giroud will get the Gilberto syndrome where while the player is out injured he becomes better and more important to the team than when he is actually playing.
Munchies
26-08-2014, 07:03 AM
How did Giroud get injured?
http://giant.gfycat.com/SarcasticColossalAcouchi.gif
:wacko:
Power n Glory
26-08-2014, 07:16 AM
A challenge towards the end of the game.
What's the odds on us signing a player like Eto'o on loan if Giroud is out for 3 months?
topgun
26-08-2014, 07:18 AM
Are we really trying to compete?
Pretty obvious answer to that.
Injury Time
26-08-2014, 07:32 AM
Are we really trying to compete?
Pretty obvious answer to that.
For 4th maybe?
Munchies
26-08-2014, 07:45 AM
Goal.com saying Roma offered £2m more for Minolas than we were prepared to pay.
Our max was £8m, they bid £10m
We're looking at Winston Reid from West Ham apparently.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2014/08/26/5060623/arsenal-move-for-manolas-collapses
I am invisible
26-08-2014, 07:50 AM
Are we boned?
Reid would be fine but we'll have to pay a lot for someone who probably isn't ever going to make it as first choice, in which case Wenger might as well go for Manolas if that's the one he wants.
Power n Glory
26-08-2014, 08:10 AM
No idea why we're haggling over these deals when we're in need of back up for a CB.
Merts is unfit, Kos is carrying a slight knock from preseason and Chambers is still very young. We should have signed a CB before selling Vermaelen or at least sold him on deadline day to give Merts some breathing space to get fit.
Penguin
26-08-2014, 08:23 AM
I have a bad feeling that Wenger isn't even looking for a CB and is happy to go into the season with Chambers and Nacho as third and fourth choice. Chambers has been great but he has also made a big mistake in every game so far that could have led to a goal. He needs time to iron out the creases. Nacho on the other hand shouldn't even be considered as an option...
I am invisible
26-08-2014, 08:26 AM
I suppose Roma might be able to guarantee more first team football for that greek lad, if Benatia (sp?) is being sold, but we should still be able to get someone in? Reid and Alderweireld have both been linked, or I suppose we might look at someone like Schar (at Basle), who was attracting a bit of interest a few months back (and who, like Reid, is down to the final year of his contract)?
Not sure who I'd go for, personally? A younger player like Manolas or Schar would be great, if we're planning for the long-term succession to Per and Kos, but Reid would probably represent the safest bet out of that lot due to his greater experience (especially int he PL)? (Although you could argue that the others have more CL experience?) Reid also looks the most physically imposing option there too, although I have no idea whether it comes at the expense of his ability on the ball - not really watched him that often.
Not sure I'm that keen on Alderweireld? Admittedly he's another one I've not really seen play that much, but my first thoughts are of another Vermaelen / Vertonghen, i.e. another cavalier, Belgian CB from the Ajax academy who seems to fill in at fullback a lot?
Penguin
26-08-2014, 08:31 AM
How did Giroud get injured?
http://giant.gfycat.com/SarcasticColossalAcouchi.gif
:wacko:
Distin used his Super Air Slasher™
Giroud had no chance :coffee:
Dein-machine
26-08-2014, 08:42 AM
The lack of CB cover has already cost us. Kos is the only quality CB we have. Merts is too slow, too clumsy & Chambers too inexperienced. The 2nd Everton goal was down to Merts being too weak & slow to get ahead of Lukaku ( yes, it was a foul but if it had been Kos LUkaku woudln't have got near him ) & then Chambers diving in like a 12 year old. If we have missed out on Manolas for the sake of 2 mill with the obvious need to strengthen in that position - " We are all doomed"
Munchies
26-08-2014, 10:04 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv9M_mhIMAAut69.jpg
Staying now?
selassie
26-08-2014, 10:28 AM
No idea why we're haggling over these deals when we're in need of back up for a CB.
Merts is unfit, Kos is carrying a slight knock from preseason and Chambers is still very young. We should have signed a CB before selling Vermaelen or at least sold him on deadline day to give Merts some breathing space to get fit.
Totally agree.
I have got to say it is worrying...we seem to be reverting back to haggling and dithering over deals.
Unless somebody else has come up who is available for a price we are prepared to pay then I just don't understand why we have not completed this deal...it beggars belief. We were obviously keen on the player, just pay the price and move on...I mean we were 2million short on his valuation.
We are in deep shit at Centre Back and Centre Forward yet seem to be making no progress whatsoever on deals..it's scary...
Xhaka Can’t
26-08-2014, 10:34 AM
I think the house has been bet on qualifying for the CL. Hope I'm right, that we win and then make the quality signing we need up front.
Asthmatic Kitty
26-08-2014, 10:34 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9440856/transfer-news-lukas-podolskis-agent-plays-down-serie-a-links
Really hope he stays. Getting rid of established goalscorers like him and chucking in Sanogo and Campbell is a recipe for disaster.
Dein-machine
26-08-2014, 11:23 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9440856/transfer-news-lukas-podolskis-agent-plays-down-serie-a-links
Really hope he stays. Getting rid of established goalscorers like him and chucking in Sanogo and Campbell is a recipe for disaster.
He was bought as RVP's replacement - a big name player to silence the doubters but ofcourse a player that was available for Wenger type money. He was never going to be a 30 goal a season man & has proved another poor buy.
selassie
26-08-2014, 11:25 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9440856/transfer-news-lukas-podolskis-agent-plays-down-serie-a-links
Really hope he stays. Getting rid of established goalscorers like him and chucking in Sanogo and Campbell is a recipe for disaster.
Me too.
If we are not going into the market to buy a new forward then it makes no sense to get rid of Poldi now. Might aswell keep him until January.
Power n Glory
26-08-2014, 11:27 AM
Totally agree.
I have got to say it is worrying...we seem to be reverting back to haggling and dithering over deals.
Unless somebody else has come up who is available for a price we are prepared to pay then I just don't understand why we have not completed this deal...it beggars belief. We were obviously keen on the player, just pay the price and move on...I mean we were 2million short on his valuation.
We are in deep shit at Centre Back and Centre Forward yet seem to be making no progress whatsoever on deals..it's scary...
It makes no sense to be dithering over the fee when we've just sold Verm for £15m.
Marc Overmars
26-08-2014, 11:29 AM
L'equipe claim we are considering Welbeck, Cavani or Remy. :lol:
selassie
26-08-2014, 11:31 AM
L'equipe claim we are considering Welbeck, Cavani or Remy. :lol:
Cavani would be a dream signing, the other two are a bit meh...but both would help as Squad options.
Marc Overmars
26-08-2014, 11:33 AM
Cavani would be a dream signing, the other two are a bit meh...but both would help as Squad options.
Welbeck would be a wonderful signing.
Munchies
26-08-2014, 11:35 AM
It's come to the point where I'd be content with signing Welbeck.
Ffs Arsene :(
http://i.minus.com/iPenjUJN2W2Fu.gif
selassie
26-08-2014, 11:40 AM
Welbeck would be a wonderful signing.
:faint: mind you...are standards are pretty low.
selassie
26-08-2014, 11:41 AM
http://i.minus.com/iPenjUJN2W2Fu.gif
:haha:
Dein-machine
26-08-2014, 11:41 AM
£10 mill CB, Carvalho & Jackson Martinez - 3 signings needed to save the season. Can you believe what Wenger has done to this squad with the money available when we are that concerned about losing Giroud. There is only way that we could ever miss Giroud & that's if we didn't have another proper center forward!!! - we were saying the same thing last year. It really is farcical.
Marc Overmars
26-08-2014, 12:40 PM
Wenget says Poldi will stay.
He also said Giroud will see a specialist, no news on how long he'll be out for.
I am invisible
26-08-2014, 02:16 PM
Wenget says Poldi will stay.
He also said Giroud will see a specialist, no news on how long he'll be out for.
Did he also say he's going to sign a another CB, a wizard-good defensive midfielder, and a CF of unimaginable goal-scoring power?
Niall_Quinn
26-08-2014, 02:20 PM
Giroud injured or not we need a better striker or at least decent cover if we are going to continue playing the current system. That's not Sanogo, but unfortunately Wenger seems to think otherwise. What does he see in this player? It's a mystery. If Giroud's injury is long term and we go with Sanogo then we'll (literally) get no goals from the front, the midfield will have to step up dramatically. Particularly Ramsey and hopefully Ozil and Alexis.
Or we could change the system - which we should do anyway, because it's bollocks.
Munchies
26-08-2014, 02:22 PM
Wenger is prob getting some bbc his way for picking him all the time
Dein-machine
26-08-2014, 02:43 PM
Wenger when asked if he is confident about the options he has with Giroud out - "Ofcourse, why should I not be confident" - Come on Wumger "me old son" - nobody asks Pelegrini that when Aguero is injured because he has Jovetic, Dzecko & Negrado to fall back on - We've got Sonogo & Campbell. The reason why the bloke asked you the question is that he, the rest of the room, the rest of the world know that we have no confidence in any other striker because their all shite.
Wenger's a much, much better manager than Pellegrini, chequebook Mourinho or whatever other cunt that the daily mail promote. Don't forget that. When's the last time Wenger bought an established, quality striker? He thinks it's a position he needs to mould potential. We don't think Sanogo, Alexis, Campbell and Walcott are it but let's see.
Niall_Quinn
26-08-2014, 03:48 PM
It's squad depth more than anything. Having Sanogo anywhere near a starting place is the problem, he should be 4th or 5th choice vying with Akpom for cup games. Walcott is always injured, what's to say that trend won't continue? Alexis is 5' 9'' up against PL Neanderthals - a challenge to say the least. Campbell is an option but surely not for the starting spot if the club is really chasing a major honour? Giroud is it right now, realistically. Now he's injured and Wenger is talking up Sanogo. That's not really good enough, is it? At least one more dedicated striker required if we want to see out a long season. Just makes sense.
It's squad depth more than anything. Having Sanogo anywhere near a starting place is the problem, he should be 4th or 5th choice vying with Akpom for cup games. Walcott is always injured, what's to say that trend won't continue? Alexis is 5' 9'' up against PL Neanderthals - a challenge to say the least. Campbell is an option but surely not for the starting spot if the club is really chasing a major honour? Giroud is it right now, realistically. Now he's injured and Wenger is talking up Sanogo. That's not really good enough, is it? At least one more dedicated striker required if we want to see out a long season. Just makes sense.
Well you have it all figured out on paper, but let's see the results. I think Alexis will kill it.
Power n Glory
26-08-2014, 04:19 PM
Wenger's a much, much better manager than Pellegrini, chequebook Mourinho or whatever other cunt that the daily mail promote. Don't forget that. When's the last time Wenger bought an established, quality striker? He thinks it's a position he needs to mould potential. We don't think Sanogo, Alexis, Campbell and Walcott are it but let's see.
Why is he the better manager?
Why is he the better manager?
Yawn. I have to provide stats on how he has won trophies on more restricted budgets?
Power n Glory
26-08-2014, 04:54 PM
Yawn. I have to provide stats on how he has won trophies on more restricted budgets?
No you don't. I'm aware. But being able to manage a smaller budget/ developing players is just one aspect of football management. We can't always use that as the measuring rod. There always seems to be an assumption that he'd do better with a bigger budget but that's not always the case. Just look at David Moyes.
Globalgunner
26-08-2014, 05:22 PM
Yawn. I have to provide stats on how he has won trophies on more restricted budgets?
The only budget restrictions he has had are the ones he imposes on himself. Wenger has failed to retain a league title, has lost all Euro cup finals he has been in and been humiliated on the pitch more times than any self respecting manager should admit. He`s a good manager,,,but I doubt history will classify him as great.
Niall_Quinn
26-08-2014, 05:23 PM
Well you have it all figured out on paper, but let's see the results. I think Alexis will kill it.
I think he will too, but not playing as a lone target man. We'll need to change the way we play and give him a lot more support if he's going to be the main striker.
fakeyank
26-08-2014, 05:25 PM
I think he will too, but not playing as a lone target man. We'll need to change the way we play and give him a lot more support if he's going to be the main striker.
Play two up front tbh.. this lone man striker is BS for most games.
saintnickle
26-08-2014, 05:34 PM
when we moved from higbury we were told off wenger and gazidis it was to compete with the worlds big boys financially.I didnt think they meant the likes of cardiff,everton and spurs.Just over 30 m spent two years in a row and now we are pennypinching.Got to laugh really how we have been taken in by all this.If that is all we have then the club is a joke.
now the stardust from the alexis signing has faded we can see reality a little clearer, especially with injuries already highlighting the weak spots in the squad.
alexis may do well through the middle eventually but i'm not sure he's ever played there consistently, so on top of his fitness/confidence (apparently being a problem) and the danger of injury (pitching him into a faster league after the world cup every game because we have no back-up) doesn't seem like the smartest approach. we need a strong option there right now, not someone who can grow into the role.
wenger likes to play with the media, we all know that. he gives as little away as possible. a great football politician. so he may well be doing something about it. but he also has previous at committing to players well below the standard required. no-one in their right mind could lose the only proven striker and not sign any sort of replacement when the money is available. time is short of course but we all know deals get done in this last week, so that is no excuse. then of course there is the cm issue and the cb problem which has been sidelined a little as our frustration over the blunt edge upfront at the start of the season has taken precedence.
whatever happens by the end of this week we are going to be short somewhere and we'll be paddling in circles again as before. so far one big signing, a good back-up keeper, a young player with potential and a good right back does not equate to a good summer of using our resources.
Shaqiri Is Boss
26-08-2014, 06:11 PM
United finally sign Di Maria for £unholyamount.
Globalgunner
26-08-2014, 06:43 PM
United finally sign Di Maria for £unholyamount.
They will still be crap with him. Unless van Gaal has the guts to move Rooney to the 10 role and play RVP as striker. But he wont
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
26-08-2014, 06:59 PM
United finally sign Di Maria for £unholyamount.
Your name should be Balotelli is unwell mentally
fakeyank
26-08-2014, 07:07 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2734343/Gary-Neville-says-Arsenal-won-t-mount-Premier-League-title-challenge-unless-Arsene-Wenger-starts-adapt-tactics-against-class-opponents.html
Well said.. but Nev is still a c***
Dein-machine
26-08-2014, 07:29 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2734343/Gary-Neville-says-Arsenal-won-t-mount-Premier-League-title-challenge-unless-Arsene-Wenger-starts-adapt-tactics-against-class-opponents.html
Well said.. but Nev is still a c***
Nothing we don't already know & didn't know last year. The fact that we bought a left back who can't play against half the strikers in the premiership because he's too slow & weak is a problem Palace should have, not Arsenal.
Dein-machine
26-08-2014, 07:32 PM
They will still be crap with him. Unless van Gaal has the guts to move Rooney to the 10 role and play RVP as striker. But he wont
Wouldn't it be nice if we had those problems in attack?
Power n Glory
26-08-2014, 08:08 PM
Everton sign Eto'o.
The Emirates Gallactico
26-08-2014, 08:49 PM
Afobe just netted twice against an admittedly poor United side. Surprise recall on the cards given our striker situation perhaps?
Munchies
26-08-2014, 09:41 PM
Cerci seems to be mentioned alot right now
The Emirates Gallactico
26-08-2014, 09:44 PM
Judging by Wikipedia he seems like some mid aged (footballing terms) Italian journeyman with mediocre stats. Worst of all his position is listed as winger/second striker and not out and out striker - a position where we already have the likes of Campbell/Podolski.
God I hope Wenger knows what he's doing here.
The Emirates Gallactico
26-08-2014, 09:45 PM
Fuckin' Lannisters...
Stannis Baratheon is the one true king.
Stannis Baratheon is the one true king.
Stannis the Mannis :bow:
McNamara That Ghost...
26-08-2014, 10:08 PM
Fuckin' Lannisters...
We just got rid of the Kingslayer too. :(
Niall_Quinn
26-08-2014, 10:36 PM
Arsenal striker Olivier Giroud's injury is worse than first feared with the Frenchman possibly facing a lay-off until the New Year.
Giroud, who picked up an ankle injury in the dying moments of Saturday's 2-2 draw at Everton, scored the equaliser Goodison Park, but could leave Arsenal short up front for the next four months.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2734856/Olivier-Giroud-s-injury-worse-feared-Arsenal-striker-set-ruled-New-Year.html#ixzz3BXYfq8RH
We'll know within 6 days if Wenger is serious about Sanogo or kidding around.
Munchies
26-08-2014, 11:02 PM
Arsenal now being linked to Nicola ZIGIC from the Championship
https://twitter.com/search?q=zigic&src=typd
Put us out of it already Wenget
:haha:
Japan Shaking All Over
27-08-2014, 07:08 AM
Distin used his Super Air Slasher™
Giroud had no chance :coffee:
He got hit at close range as one of Everton were clearing
Japan Shaking All Over
27-08-2014, 07:09 AM
Cerci seems to be mentioned alot right now
As is Welbeck
Bumble
27-08-2014, 07:18 AM
As is Welbeck
I like welbeck to the extent that he is a striker who works hard and has pace but should be only considered an option not the main man. Giroud has already demonstrated he is better coming off the bench and it should remain that way. Walcott isn't back until September but again is too lightweight to be the main striker, he would be better when we play two up front. Sanchez the same really but if they both played up front together, it probably would work with Ozil feeding the passes through the middle.
Podolski is less mobile than Giroud and seems to have fitness issues but has a quality left foot. Campbell is meh..... but rather him than Sanogoo who should really be playing for West Ham and fat Sams hoof ball.
We need another CB who is in his 30s with experience but not really expecting to play week in week out. Kos is still only 27 so has years ahead, Chambers will be first choice soon enough so I don't think we can either sign a top notch CB as that would halt Chambers development or another young CB who wont have any game time.
We need a more powerful CM as well, saw we were linked with Gustavo again..... after his world cup showing.... no thanks he was utter rubbish. I am guessing Khedira probably holding out to go to Bayern next year when his contract runs down.
Another CF but if the Cavani stories are true that would be incredible.
Marc Overmars
27-08-2014, 08:38 AM
Falcao available on loan...
Although just to give a measure on how much he earns at Monaco, it would cost 20m to have him for one year. :blink:
Signing Wellbeck would quite possibly be the worst addition I've seen at the club, when balancing fee for quality.
He is fucking awful. NOT the quality we should be looking to acquire, if we are serious about mounting any kind of challenge for honours this year.
If we're looking for a cheap stop-gap option, I'd buy Henry back and stick him up top. More than capable of holding the ball up, and has the kind of vision required in that role.
Grebbo
27-08-2014, 08:55 AM
I don't think Man U would sell Welbeck to us in case it comes back on them. Imagine a local lad from their academy winning us the league?? (we can dream) Nah they'd never allow that to happen. I don't think they regard him as Silvestre level of shit. So I can't see that one happening. Take a look at Redcafe and see how much most of their fans want to keep him.
Falcao loan for £20m per season, nah not in a million years.
I could see Cavani wanting to join us but fee and wages would make it an astronomical deal and we're not at that level financially. There's our level and then there's the oil clubs plus Barca and Madrid.
I think our best bet is to improve the defensive side of our midfield and accept that we'll score less goals, maybe get someone like Remy as well on the cheap if Giroud is out long term. We've always got a goal in us with our midfield, even with Sanogo up front. Trouble is we always look likely to concede as well without a defensively minded midfielder.
Grebbo
27-08-2014, 08:57 AM
Signing Wellbeck would quite possibly be the worst addition I've seen at the club, when balancing fee for quality.
He is fucking awful. NOT the quality we should be looking to acquire, if we are serious about mounting any kind of challenge for honours this year.
To be fair he's never had a decent chance up front with Rooney and RVP ahead of him. He could turn out to be very decent. Reminds me of Sturridge stuck at Chelsea.
I am invisible
27-08-2014, 08:59 AM
Falcao available on loan...
Although just to give a measure on how much he earns at Monaco, it would cost 20m to have him for one year. :blink:
That 20m does (allegedly) include both loan fee and wages, so it's probably not actually too far off what his value would be for a year?
Puma can pay for it anyway - that's what they're there for...
Grebbo
27-08-2014, 09:01 AM
Why does Monaco want to loan out Falcao?
I am invisible
27-08-2014, 09:02 AM
Latest Twitter logic:
Di Maria > Man U = Falcao > Madrid = Benzema > PSG = Cavani > Us
Who can argue with reasoning like that? I'm going to order my Cavani shirt now - get ahead of the queues...
Of course, if we weren't so stubborn in sticking to having a big man up top and playing hop-scotch around him, we could utilise the pace and directness we have in the team, and start using their strengths.
Everton showed perfectly what we should be doing with our collection of infinitely more talented players. Stretch the play, get width, and pass the ball forward. Quite why we played the same way with Sanchez up top, as we would with a big man. Fucking idiotic.
If we changed our style to something more effective, we wouldn't have to spend big, or rely on players who aren't up to it.
selassie
27-08-2014, 09:34 AM
Arsenal now being linked to Nicola ZIGIC from the Championship
https://twitter.com/search?q=zigic&src=typd
Put us out of it already Wenget
:haha:
If anyone can Arsene can :faint:
I am invisible
27-08-2014, 09:37 AM
Why does Monaco want to loan out Falcao?
Who knows? Maybe their sugar daddy has suddenly lost a ton of cash, or had his assets frozen? Maybe it's this new 75% tax rate in France (although I'm not sure how much that affects Monaco as a principality? I know the FFF were threatening to expel them from the league unless they relocated their head office to France, but I think Monaco bought them off that got resolved)? Or maybe the player is just sick of playing in front of 5000 fans every week, and is agitating for a move? I would guess it's something financial though, seeings how they've also sold Rodriguez after just one year too...
I am invisible
27-08-2014, 09:47 AM
Arsenal now being linked to Nicola ZIGIC from the Championship
https://twitter.com/search?q=zigic&src=typd
Put us out of it already Wenget
:haha:
I swear the club deliberately leak these rumours so we'll all be grateful when we sign a slightly less shit player...
up the arse
27-08-2014, 10:20 AM
So thats just about everyone covered then!!!..........
Arsenal are ready to make a £50m bid for Paris St-Germain striker Edinson Cavani as Olivier Giroud, also 27, faces a lengthy spell on the sidelines. (Daily Express)
The Gunners want Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck, 23, to replace the injured Giroud, but the Red Devils are reluctant to sell. (Daily Mail)
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is also interested in a loan deal for Monaco's Colombia forward Radamel Falcao, 28, and France striker Loic Remy, 27, who is available for £8.5m from QPR . (the Guardian)
Gooner23
27-08-2014, 10:27 AM
Ornstein reckons we aren't in the market for another striker, just a back up CB who can cover defensive mid. He's normally quite accurate as well :ilt:
Injury Time
27-08-2014, 10:30 AM
Who knows? Maybe their sugar daddy has suddenly lost a ton of cash, or had his assets frozen? Maybe it's this new 75% tax rate in France (although I'm not sure how much that affects Monaco as a principality? I know the FFF were threatening to expel them from the league unless they relocated their head office to France, but I think Monaco bought them off that got resolved)? Or maybe the player is just sick of playing in front of 5000 fans every week, and is agitating for a move? I would guess it's something financial though, seeings how they've also sold Rodriguez after just one year too...
0% tax rate in Monaco hence all F1 drivers "live" there, so helps them on transfers too.
Marc Overmars
27-08-2014, 10:56 AM
Of course, if we weren't so stubborn in sticking to having a big man up top and playing hop-scotch around him, we could utilise the pace and directness we have in the team, and start using their strengths.
Everton showed perfectly what we should be doing with our collection of infinitely more talented players. Stretch the play, get width, and pass the ball forward. Quite why we played the same way with Sanchez up top, as we would with a big man. Fucking idiotic.
If we changed our style to something more effective, we wouldn't have to spend big, or rely on players who aren't up to it.
Pretty much. Same thing happened when Theo was getting games up front, long balls and expecting him to play with his back to goal. Crazy.
Wenget has been hell bent on using this formation with a big man. RVC is the only striker we've had in recent memory who successfully managed to bridge the gap between midfield and attack, he won't find someone like that again so I think it's high time we tried something different.
We need someone to play off Giroud because he'd thrive off the support, it's silly leaving him to feed off scraps all the time.
Niall_Quinn
27-08-2014, 11:25 AM
Of course, if we weren't so stubborn in sticking to having a big man up top and playing hop-scotch around him, we could utilise the pace and directness we have in the team, and start using their strengths.
Everton showed perfectly what we should be doing with our collection of infinitely more talented players. Stretch the play, get width, and pass the ball forward. Quite why we played the same way with Sanchez up top, as we would with a big man. Fucking idiotic.
If we changed our style to something more effective, we wouldn't have to spend big, or rely on players who aren't up to it.
:gp:
I suspect it's all down to the training methods, GPS vests, calories burned per mile, heads of broccoli consumed on Wednesdays. We play statisticsball and on average it does serve to haul us to that top 4 spot every year. Deviating from it comes with a £20-£30mill risk. When new players come in they stand out a mile, Ox looks direct and exciting, Chambers looks a world beater, Campbell is the most entertaining player on the pitch. But we train it out of them. The thought of Ox as a central midfielder is a joke. He could be the classic winger. But some academic has said wingers don't work so that's that. Can't play two up top either, that's prehistoric apparently. Everyone is trapped in this fuck awful congested five man midfield that bores the fuck out of everyone but gets the results.
If Everton had more ambition in the second half against us and took the risk of continuing to play instead of shutting up shop they would have run out easy winners. We didn't force two goals, they let us back into it by being negative. Negative is what keeps contracts alive, points coming in and money rolling. But it's boring so runs counter to the whole purpose of the sport.
Our substitutions are telling. Like for like, no change in the system. One exhausted cog out, another slotted in. Machine keeps ticking. It was funny Celtic being beaten by a nobody yesterday, but the match was actually quite enjoyable to watch. Admittedly because both sides made a ton of mistakes and were low on quality. But the end to end play and the expansive passing was entertaining. And there was a drama to it, whereas with us I just yawned when we pulled a goal back because I'd already been bored to tears by that stage.
Players will need time to adjust to new tactics and formations, we're only 2 weeks into the season and some of our key players haven't even had a pre-season. Nobody thought Wenger would play Alexis upfront against Everton but this has been part of Wenger's thinking for a while. Up until now he had to be rigid in formations because we just didn't have forwards we could trust - (either on quality or injuries) and that was Wenger's fault. But now he has a few options - he has wanted a livewire upfront. He tried for Suarez who would've been perfect but now he has landed Alexis which gives him more flexibility and he's trying it out.
The Emirates Gallactico
27-08-2014, 11:58 AM
Of course, if we weren't so stubborn in sticking to having a big man up top and playing hop-scotch around him, we could utilise the pace and directness we have in the team, and start using their strengths.
Everton showed perfectly what we should be doing with our collection of infinitely more talented players. Stretch the play, get width, and pass the ball forward. Quite why we played the same way with Sanchez up top, as we would with a big man. Fucking idiotic.
If we changed our style to something more effective, we wouldn't have to spend big, or rely on players who aren't up to it.
:gp:
I said it a few days ago but Podolski could be the 25+ goal striker we need provided we change our formation and style of play to make it less about flicks and hold up play from the striker.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-08-2014, 12:01 PM
Wengeritis - the disease that turns a decent player into a shit liability because of the managers insistence of playing square pegs in round holes. Notable victims are Thomas Vermaelen and Andrei Arshavin. Santiago Cazorla is infected and Mezut Ozil is showing symptoms.
Niall_Quinn
27-08-2014, 01:31 PM
Players will need time to adjust to new tactics and formations, we're only 2 weeks into the season and some of our key players haven't even had a pre-season. Nobody thought Wenger would play Alexis upfront against Everton but this has been part of Wenger's thinking for a while. Up until now he had to be rigid in formations because we just didn't have forwards we could trust - (either on quality or injuries) and that was Wenger's fault. But now he has a few options - he has wanted a livewire upfront. He tried for Suarez who would've been perfect but now he has landed Alexis which gives him more flexibility and he's trying it out.
He played Alexis up top but in Giroud's role - what's the point of that? Then Giroud comes on to play Giroud's role and mysteriously it works. We're fitting players to systems rather than building systems from the players we have. We've already shown the trend can be successfully defeated when we were winning titles. Then Barca went on to show the norm can be overcome when you have the quality. We've got some genuine world class quality in the team now but really, what's the point of Ozil if all he's tasked with doing is holding the ball on the left and tapping it around with the full back until eventually somebody puts in a shit cross or hits it across the pitch for another round of tippy tappy?
Once we've seen Ozil break from the midfield and really run at the defence and he looked bloody great doing it. Ramsey would thrive if we had runners. Too much of our play goes through full backs that aren't called Ashley Cole. Our fullbacks are always too tight to the wide man. The wide man is hardly ever running into space and often takes the ball surrounded by defenders. Plus a hundred other things. I'm not saying Wenger is wrong in all this, undoubtedly this is the modern game and he's doing what everyone is doing. Just saying the modern game is shit and boring and I think we have the players who could try something different.
Here's the thing, Lee Cattermole would work in our current system. We talk about Khedira and Carvalho and Bender, but what would they actually be required to do? We're spending money on ballerinas so we can use them for mud wrestling. Waste of money. If you're going to buy Ozil then use him. And of course buy the closest thing you can get to Ronaldo - which is not Sanogo.
Ozil and Sanogo on the same team. Can anyone say that's not a joke?
I am invisible
27-08-2014, 01:37 PM
Players will need time to adjust to new tactics and formations, we're only 2 weeks into the season and some of our key players haven't even had a pre-season. Nobody thought Wenger would play Alexis upfront against Everton but this has been part of Wenger's thinking for a while. Up until now he had to be rigid in formations because we just didn't have forwards we could trust - (either on quality or injuries) and that was Wenger's fault. But now he has a few options - he has wanted a livewire upfront. He tried for Suarez who would've been perfect but now he has landed Alexis which gives him more flexibility and he's trying it out.
Yeah, I agree - looked like a combination of being short of match fitness/sharpness (most noticeably in the lack of players we had committing to get forward quickly in support in the first half) and some teething problems with adapting to playing in a new way (probably due to a reduced pre-season, where Alexis only featured in a few minutes here and there, and on RW at that), but I expect both of those will improve if we persevere with it.
I thought a couple of Wenger's comments were interesting the other day, when asked whether Alexis would get another chance at CF, and explaining why he was subbed against Everton...
...When asked if Sanchez can play up front on a long-term basis, the Arsenal boss said: "Of course. You do not convict a player on one half. It was not all bad what he did.
"There was some quality in what he did. I just felt, on the day, we needed some more physical presence because I knew we would play in one half [of the pitch] in the second half [of the game], and would need more presence. And once you are 2-0 down you will not play on counter-attack.
dailystar.co.uk (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/396450/Alexis-Sanchez-will-get-another-chance-through-the-middle-Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger)
...I know it ended up looking like we were playing the same system throughout, where we just swapped one striker who wasn't working for a more suitable option in the same role, but that highlighted bit suggests that we were actually meant to be playing a counter-attacking game in the first half (even if it didn't quite work out that way)? We've still clearly got some work to do in terms of getting it right and breaking some old habits, but at least there seems to be a desire and a willingness there to try something a bit different, and mix our tactics up a bit?
Marc Overmars
27-08-2014, 01:40 PM
'Zigic to Arsenal' is trending on Twitter. :lol:
We know Wenger is a WUM but that would be senile.
Niall_Quinn
27-08-2014, 01:47 PM
From 2006
Arsène Wenger has no need to sign 6ft 8ins striker Nikola Zigic because he already has a beanpole frontman waiting in the wings.
The Serbia striker, currently at Crvena Zvezda, has been linked with a move the Premiership, and certain reports have suggested the destination might be Highbury.
However Wenger is more interested in 6ft 3ins Nicklas Bendtner. The 18-year-old Danish striker has hit 27 goals in 30 starts for the Reserves, the youth team and the Under 18s this season.
"No," replied the Arsenal manager when asked if he wanted Zigic. "I admit we have seen him, but we already have a young Zigic in our youth team. Bendtner."
The new Bendtner.
He's free, he's from the lower leagues, he'll have trouble getting a work permit. Ticks all the boxes. Signing him would give Sanogo some competition on the beach ferrying holidaymakers up and down.
Arsenal unlikely to sign new striker following Olivier Giroud injury
Arsenal are not planning to sign another striker to replace Olivier Giroud - even if scans on his ankle confirm a serious injury.
The club have no intention of recruiting any forwards on a permanent deal in this summer's transfer window.
Gunners manager Arsene Wenger will assess the loan market.
The Frenchman plans to stick with his existing options of Alexis Sanchez, Joel Campbell, Yaya Sanogo, Lukas Podolski and Theo Walcott.
France striker Giroud, 27, was due to see a specialist to assess the extent of the injury, picked up in the Saturday's 2-2 draw at Everton.
There are fears he has broken his ankle and that he could be ruled out for up to three months.
An update on the results of a second scan - carried out after the swelling had gone down - is likely to come after Wednesday's Champions League play-off second leg against Besiktas.
Giroud came off the bench to score the Gunners' equaliser in the 90th minute at Goodison Park but picked up the injury in the closing seconds of the game.
Arsenal still hope to sign another versatile centre-back or holding midfielder who can potentially perform both roles - as back-up for what they already have available to them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28953337
KSE Comedy Club
27-08-2014, 02:32 PM
The news gets better and better.
Happy days
I am invisible
27-08-2014, 02:34 PM
To be fair, it's better news than possibly signing Zigic...
Marc Overmars
27-08-2014, 03:14 PM
Zigic's agent confirms Wenget has enquired. WTF?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9442911/transfer-news-nikola-zigics-agent-confirms-arsenals-interest
Lets hope that's just made up bullshit in order to ramp up some interest in him.
Jesus Christ.
Power n Glory
27-08-2014, 03:14 PM
Can't believe we've been linked with Zigic again. This is where this obsession with tall useless players that can lay off passes started.
Niall_Quinn
27-08-2014, 03:27 PM
So we all thought Utd vs MK Dons was unbelievable and fantastic and ridiculous. But it has been topped within a few hours with news that Zigic could be on his way to Arsenal. You won't get a more ludicrous story than that all year, maybe ever. Obviously it's not true because it just can't be.
fakeyank
27-08-2014, 03:36 PM
:gp:
I suspect it's all down to the training methods, GPS vests, calories burned per mile, heads of broccoli consumed on Wednesdays. We play statisticsball and on average it does serve to haul us to that top 4 spot every year. Deviating from it comes with a £20-£30mill risk. When new players come in they stand out a mile, Ox looks direct and exciting, Chambers looks a world beater, Campbell is the most entertaining player on the pitch. But we train it out of them. The thought of Ox as a central midfielder is a joke. He could be the classic winger. But some academic has said wingers don't work so that's that. Can't play two up top either, that's prehistoric apparently. Everyone is trapped in this fuck awful congested five man midfield that bores the fuck out of everyone but gets the results.
If Everton had more ambition in the second half against us and took the risk of continuing to play instead of shutting up shop they would have run out easy winners. We didn't force two goals, they let us back into it by being negative. Negative is what keeps contracts alive, points coming in and money rolling. But it's boring so runs counter to the whole purpose of the sport.
Our substitutions are telling. Like for like, no change in the system. One exhausted cog out, another slotted in. Machine keeps ticking. It was funny Celtic being beaten by a nobody yesterday, but the match was actually quite enjoyable to watch. Admittedly because both sides made a ton of mistakes and were low on quality. But the end to end play and the expansive passing was entertaining. And there was a drama to it, whereas with us I just yawned when we pulled a goal back because I'd already been bored to tears by that stage.
:gp:
So we all thought Utd vs MK Dons was unbelievable and fantastic and ridiculous. But it has been topped within a few hours with news that Zigic could be on his way to Arsenal. You won't get a more ludicrous story than that all year, maybe ever. Obviously it's not true because it just can't be.
Where there's a Weng, there's a WUM :good:
The Emirates Gallactico
27-08-2014, 04:05 PM
Zigic was released by Birmingham City last year, a club that barely avoided relegation on the last day to the third tier of English football.
He's 33 years old and a free agent right now and desperate for a club. It's clearly his agent trying to drum up interest for his client. Wenger does like a good troll once in a while but this would be ridiculous.
Just can't believe the likes of Sky Sports are giving it oxygen.
Dein-machine
27-08-2014, 04:12 PM
Zigic was released by Birmingham City last year, a club that barely avoided relegation on the last day to the third tier of English football.
He's 33 years old and a free agent right now and desperate for a club. It's clearly his agent trying to drum up interest for his client. Wenger does like a good troll once in a while but this would be ridiculous.
Just can't believe the likes of Sky Sports are giving it oxygen.
On my god - Is Wenger trying to buy someone to make us thankful for Giroud & Sonogo.
Dein-machine
27-08-2014, 04:22 PM
Wengeritis - the disease that turns a decent player into a shit liability because of the managers insistence of playing square pegs in round holes. Notable victims are Thomas Vermaelen and Andrei Arshavin. Santiago Cazorla is infected and Mezut Ozil is showing symptoms.
At least we can't blame Wengeritus on Giroud & Sonogo, they were never decent to start with. Another one to add to your victims is Arteta.
Japan Shaking All Over
27-08-2014, 05:10 PM
Zigic's agent confirms Wenget has enquired. WTF?
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9442911/transfer-news-nikola-zigics-agent-confirms-arsenals-interest
Lets hope that's just made up bullshit in order to ramp up some interest in him.
Jesus Christ.
This has to be crap....from spending millions on Ozil and Sanchez to this.....blow me
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-08-2014, 05:11 PM
At least we can't blame Wengeritus on Giroud & Sonogo, they were never decent to start with. Another one to add to your victims is Arteta.
Hmmm I'm not sure Arteta was ever good enough to begin with even in his preferred position, he was just a supporter mollifying panic buy.
But I give thanks to non-existant God that he's out through injury and can't hurt us with his slow one footed ness .
Dein-machine
27-08-2014, 05:24 PM
Can't remember for sure but I think Lee Clarke ask him to fuck off from training one day stating that he had the worst attiutde he had ever come across. In fairness to Zigic he probably couldnt understand the Geordie prick.
Japan Shaking All Over
27-08-2014, 05:59 PM
This has to be crap....from spending millions on Ozil and Sanchez to this.....blow me
Because somebody must be blowing Wenger if this deal is true
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-08-2014, 06:26 PM
Because somebody must be blowing Wenger if this deal is true
The agent is clearly fucking lying in order to shift his shiftless client, it's like when my landlady told me she had someone else looking around here three days after she showed me around...she wanted a taker quickly so probably would have told me the guy was paying a deposit in gold bricks if it would help make up my mind.
Niall_Quinn
27-08-2014, 06:31 PM
Probably right - (shamefully) we were interested in 2006, now we're a striker short so the agent puts 2 and 2 together and gets 49.
:pray:
Power n Glory
27-08-2014, 06:42 PM
The agent is clearly fucking lying in order to shift his shiftless client, it's like when my landlady told me she had someone else looking around here three days after she showed me around...she wanted a taker quickly so probably would have told me the guy was paying a deposit in gold bricks if it would help make up my mind.
It sounds ludicrous. But can you imagine the response if Kallstrom's agent had said the same thing back in January? I now consider all possibilities after that debacle.
Marc Overmars
27-08-2014, 08:53 PM
Right, so that's the CL in the bag.
Bring on deadline day. :popcorn:
Munchies
27-08-2014, 08:58 PM
Giroud out till January
Wenget says no new striker coming in..
Giroud out till January
Wenget says no new striker coming in..
No he didn't, he said he didn't know yet.
Penguin
27-08-2014, 09:00 PM
We have 10 strikers. Why it matter if one gets injured?
KSE Comedy Club
27-08-2014, 09:02 PM
He has to be bluffing.
He spoke about Walcott being a good striker... When the fuck is he due back exactly???
We really can't take the risk of not signing a striker. We've gambled too many times and it never works out :-(
Marc Overmars
27-08-2014, 09:05 PM
Time for Welbeck to come home.
Penguin
27-08-2014, 09:06 PM
He has to be bluffing.
He spoke about Walcott being a good striker... When the fuck is he due back exactly???
We really can't take the risk of not signing a striker. We've gambled too many times and it never works out :-(
http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Wenger-Spend-Smile.png
The Emirates Gallactico
27-08-2014, 09:15 PM
Apparently we've put in a bid for Rabiot.
Also Wenger confirms that Song won't be returning. Thank fuck for that.
The Emirates Gallactico
27-08-2014, 09:19 PM
Also Wenger ruled out Zigic (as if that needed ruling out) and Welbeck.
Rest easily lads.
McNamara That Ghost...
27-08-2014, 09:29 PM
Why was it believed in the first place?
Niall_Quinn
27-08-2014, 09:35 PM
Why was it believed in the first place?
Kallstrom Syndrome.
Kallstrom Syndrome.
Kallstrom was a good player though.
Niall_Quinn
27-08-2014, 09:37 PM
Kallstrom was a good player though.
But he was dead when he arrived and it was more the fact we'd signed a dead player. Fine once he was resurrected.
Japan Shaking All Over
27-08-2014, 10:59 PM
Giroud out till January
Wenget says no new striker coming in..
He didn't really
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
27-08-2014, 11:03 PM
Kallstrom was a good player though.
:haha:
selassie
28-08-2014, 07:55 AM
Apparently we've put in a bid for Rabiot.
Also Wenger confirms that Song won't be returning. Thank fuck for that.
I think Rabiot will be our last piece of business.
Penguin
28-08-2014, 08:20 AM
Kallstrom was a good player though.
Yep he is, but people need someone to blame for our failure to sign Messi or Ronaldo in the January window. :rolleyes:
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Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
28-08-2014, 08:21 AM
My priority is for us to sign a defender, as much as I like Chambers he's still learning his trade and we need experienced defensive cover.
The way I look at it if we tighten up the defence and have someone whose not a complete spastic sitting in front of the back four every other area of the pitch looks after itself, we have the pace in the side which we lacked last season to lay on goals for anyone. Personally I think it's an opportunity to let Podolski shine
Dein-machine
28-08-2014, 10:25 AM
I'd love to interview Wenger. The Sky guy last night basically telling him he needs to buy a striker should have started to laugh when Wenger explained why we didn't need to. He told the guy we have other quality strikers at the club by suggesting that he has bought Sanchez as a striker, which then beggars the question as to why in pre-season he was never played there. Then he says Theo is coming back from injury when we all know the Theo upfront tactic hasn't been a success, his body isnt built to be hit from behind by the likes of Shawcross, he's made of China. Then he says Podolski, if he thought he was a quality striker why has he hardly played there since joining us, he was after all RVP's replacement to appease the fans & has hardly had much ahead of him in the way of quality competition. Then he says Sonogo, which is a statement that is beyond comprehension & finally chips in with Campbell who hasn't started a game in that position & the jury is very much still out about if he's that good at all.
It's so hilarious, if it had been me I was would have started to smile at the mention of Podolski but totally lost it when Sonogo was mentioned & would have had to abandon the interview through fits of giggles. Woudln't that be good TV?.
Wenger went on to say that in England when a player is injured & out for a while everyone seems to think the simple answer to buy some one - Err, that's because when you only have 1 half decent proven center forward & he gets a long term injury then I'm afraid Mr Wenger that everyone is right - you have to buy, unless you don't want to compete ofcourse. Mr Pelegrini or Mr Rodgers don't have to do this because they have realized that you need a bit of strength in depth in this department with proven goal scorers & they can afford their main striker to be out.
Ralpheroo72
28-08-2014, 10:35 AM
Sky Italia correspondent Gianluca Di Marzio is reporting that Arsenal have made a bid for Borussia Dortmund's Greek defender Sokratis Papastathopoulos.
Niall_Quinn
28-08-2014, 10:42 AM
Papa Smurf :bow:
Must get
Penguin
28-08-2014, 11:29 AM
That would be a brilliant signing but why would Dortmund sell him?
Marc Overmars
28-08-2014, 11:44 AM
Judging by what we see of Greece at tournaments, it's safe to assume this guy knows how to defend. Sign him up.
Dein-machine
28-08-2014, 01:28 PM
Papa Smurf :bow:
Must get
Agreed - simply to wind up my 14 year old son by getting this guys name put on his treasured new home shirt!!! - little fucker went made on holiday this year when on day 1 he unfolded his away shirt to find I had put Bender on it ( Ok, I jumped the gun) - he's at that age where anything gay is strictly taboo.
Niall_Quinn
28-08-2014, 01:33 PM
LvM is after Carvalho now. We should step in and spoil that for him. Or at least send some fake lawyers to piss him around.
LvM is after Carvalho now. We should step in and spoil that for him. Or at least send some fake lawyers to piss him around.
Cant see it. What's the point of signing Herrera then? Unless they plan on using Carvalho at CB in which case it's yet another square peg. Fine line between genius and madness though so maybe we just would not understand.
The Emirates Gallactico
28-08-2014, 01:51 PM
That would be a brilliant signing but why would Dortmund sell him?
This. Can't see Dortmund letting him go.
Subotic has looked shaky since his ACL injury and Ginter is still very raw. He'll be first choice for them alongside Hummels.
Niall_Quinn
28-08-2014, 02:55 PM
Agent has probably destabilised the player in order to create a commission.
Niall_Quinn
28-08-2014, 07:37 PM
Closing on on Rabiot - apparently. Another pet project?
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#ligue_1/2013/2014/adrien_rabiot/118/58/1316/0/p|la_liga/2013/2014/sami_khedira/136/69/125/0/p|premier_league/2013/2014/mikel_arteta/126/64/398/0/p#total_score/possession_score/successful_passes/avg_pass_length/tackles_won/total_duels_%/interceptions/blocks/defensive_errors#avg
I am invisible
29-08-2014, 08:44 AM
Closing on on Rabiot - apparently. Another pet project?
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#ligue_1/2013/2014/adrien_rabiot/118/58/1316/0/p|la_liga/2013/2014/sami_khedira/136/69/125/0/p|premier_league/2013/2014/mikel_arteta/126/64/398/0/p#total_score/possession_score/successful_passes/avg_pass_length/tackles_won/total_duels_%/interceptions/blocks/defensive_errors#avg
Not an unreasonable statement. If Chambers is anything to go by though, it would be nice to think that the standard of our 'projects' has jumped up a level? At least there seem to be a number of big clubs sniffing around this lad, and it's not just us seeing something that may or may not be there...
Dein-machine
29-08-2014, 09:59 AM
Pet projects are fine if the rest of the team is sorted. Rabiot could be left until Jan if he's a project. All energy should be spent on a proven DM & goalscorer.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
29-08-2014, 10:54 AM
Pet projects are fine if the rest of the team is sorted. Rabiot could be left until Jan if he's a project. All energy should be spent on a proven DM & goalscorer.
Hmm he played 25 games in Ligue 1 for PSG last season, so he's not a project in the same way as a Yaya Sanogo....he obviously seems highly rated so I'd be happy for us to go for him.
Power n Glory
29-08-2014, 11:00 AM
Hmm he played 25 games in Ligue 1 for PSG last season, so he's not a project in the same way as a Yaya Sanogo....he obviously seems highly rated so I'd be happy for us to go for him.
Reports say he's only started 12 of those games. That sounds like a pet project. He's only 19 and hasn't played much football. 56 games in total.
Munchies
29-08-2014, 11:24 AM
Seems Roma have nicked ahead of us in that deal aswell.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O0hTOM-TROY
Falcao plz Wenget
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 11:57 AM
Finally we're being linked with Falcao.
Will never happen, but at least we have some linkage to pass the time.
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 12:01 PM
False alarm.
Appears this linkage is merely Rob Draper nominating Falcao to Arsenal as his fantasy deadline day transfer.
But damn it, It's something!
"I promise you if we sign someone we will inform you". One of my least favourite Wenger WUM phrases.
Munchies
29-08-2014, 01:45 PM
injury aside, Falcao is still one of the best strikers in the world. His form for Atletico was insane.
Make it happen Wenger..
Only 28 too, could get 3-4 years out of him
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
29-08-2014, 01:47 PM
"I promise you if we sign someone we will inform you". One of my least favourite Wenger WUM phrases.
It's a nicer way of saying fuck off and stop asking questions that you already know I'm not going to answer.
I love how these papers try and make out that they are somehow representatives of the fans
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
29-08-2014, 01:48 PM
I loved a year or so ago when he said "I think you have maybe a bit Alzheimer's" at the inconsistency of the questions
Marc Overmars
29-08-2014, 01:50 PM
West Ham in talks with Barca over Song. :lol:
Munchies
29-08-2014, 01:51 PM
West Ham in talks with Barca over Song. :lol:
http://youaremyarsenal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/9bd821447b5e0522d799901044d4705c_large.gif
The WC punch and this is all he'll be remembered for. :haha:
Munchies
29-08-2014, 01:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCmk96_Pfpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCmk96_Pfpg
I want Falcao :penguin:
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 01:59 PM
I'd settle for your video playing instead of showing a copyright message.
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 02:10 PM
Marketing, the gypos and Juve all talking to Falcao - apparently. So that's that as far as we are concerned.
This Zigic bloke - any good?
Marc Overmars
29-08-2014, 02:14 PM
Bayern sign Xabi Alonso.
Valencia and Villa make bids for Cleverley. :lol:
Munchies
29-08-2014, 02:17 PM
Alonso for £5m.. Clev for £8m ... :doh:
https://twitter.com/br_uk
'My understanding is Arsenal are set to sign a central midfielder. Likely their last signing of window' #AskGuillem
FALCAO's agent is trying to get him out of Monaco. Madrid coach Ancelotti doesn't want him, so unlikely there.
GuillemBalague 'More on Falcao. Agent is trying to get him to Arsenal, Madrid or Juve. All unlikely moves right now #AskGuillem
Wenger not focused on signing a striker. Goals can come from elsewhere
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/28667339
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwNkTGhCMAAmwob.jpg
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Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 02:20 PM
Wenger not focused on signing a striker. Goals can come from elsewhere
Nope : darjeelingtea: #fantasyland @sanogoal
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 02:22 PM
#AskGuillem #henonuhtheeng @fatty
Munchies
29-08-2014, 02:40 PM
lol that Falcao link was started by a fake journalist account on twitter, who tricked the main BBC site into putting it up.
They removed it now
FFS!
The Emirates Gallactico
29-08-2014, 06:01 PM
Best news of the summer!
Kalou is undergoing a medical at Hertha Berlin. Finally a deadline day with no tenuous or scary links to him.
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 06:12 PM
Best news of the summer!
Kalou is undergoing a medical at Hertha Berlin. Finally a deadline day with no tenuous or scary links to him.
I think we went cold on that deal when we spotted the Brummie beanpole.
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 06:16 PM
Also Torres has signed for Milan - so there's another bullet (however unlikely) dodged.
Apparently a free transfer - so that's a £50mill loss plus all that time on £150k per week. Stick that onto their £800mill quest for glory.
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 06:18 PM
Daily Maggot says Remy will replace Torres in Chavganistan.
I am invisible
29-08-2014, 06:18 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/504855/Radamel-Falcao-drops-huge-hint-that-he-is-set-for-Arsenal-move
Good God people, how much more proof do you need that we're signing Falcao?!!
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 06:21 PM
Swansea want £24mill for Bony.
I want a bigger dick.
Let's see who gets their wish first.
Marc Overmars
29-08-2014, 06:24 PM
Torres off to Milan. :lol:
£50m for Torres absolutely must be the worst signing ever.
£24m for Bony can't be that far off the market rate. 25 goal a season striker, good age, Swansea only bought him last year. Would be very surprised if they would let him go for less.
Munchies
29-08-2014, 06:52 PM
2 year loan deal :lol:
Shaqiri Is Boss
29-08-2014, 07:20 PM
He truly is a case of
For what he was, not what he became.
What an absolute waste.
Munchies
29-08-2014, 08:46 PM
And just like that, Chelsea supposedly trigger Remy's release clause.
Costa, Remy and Drogba.
Not going for Remy looks bad on our part now mainly because Chelsea have got him. If he was forced to stay at QPR, we would've kept that doubt over his fitness because Liverpool turned him down.
Think we should've brought in one of Remy or Balotelli while there was a clear chance. Now they're playing for our rivals, lets see how they get on.
McNamara That Ghost...
29-08-2014, 09:34 PM
Any player that can countenance going to Chelsea isn't a player I can stomach having tbf.
And just like that, Chelsea supposedly trigger Remy's release clause.
Costa, Remy and Drogba.
We don't need strikers, we have 6, one who is injured till Christmas, 3 who are use to playing as wingers, one who is supposedly going to be turned into a striker but seems to be more of a winger (and is always injured) and one who can't shoot for toffee.
It's all good.
Walcott, Campbell, Giroud, Sanogo, Sanchez, Podolski
The Emirates Gallactico
29-08-2014, 10:32 PM
And so it begins...........
Daily Mail turning their attention to Sanchez after getting bored bashing Ozil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2736898/Manchester-United-not-worse-unbeaten-Arsenal-current-form.html
He has reason to do so. His purchase of Alexis Sanchez for £30m would have become an almost intolerable financial burden had Arsenal not advanced to the treasure-laden stage of the Champions League.
Sanchez eased the burden by scoring the only goal at the Emirates on Wednesday.
However, Barcelona’s Chilean reject did not play anything like as wonderfully as some of his reviewers proclaimed.
It was also depressing to see pictures of him emerging hours later from the same Chinawhite night spot in London which has become a garish symbol of the Premier League footballer’s clubbing habit.
Not that he has picked up on all the culture just yet. He was wearing a cap emblazoned with a Tottenham-like cockerel.
Cunts.
And so it begins...........
Daily Mail turning their attention to Sanchez after getting bored bashing Ozil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2736898/Manchester-United-not-worse-unbeaten-Arsenal-current-form.html
Cunts.
I've long since decided not to spend any time or effort reading or veiwing anything in the media to do with Football. It is fucking dire.
It's enough to read the helmets on here spouting shite, let alone read anything designed purely to garner website hits, viewers or paper sales.
You remember when Nick Frost is chained up as a zombie at the end of Shaun Of The Dead. That's football fans, and the media-led general public.
http://top10horror.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nick-frost-ed-shawn-of-the-dead-2004.jpg
Niall_Quinn
29-08-2014, 10:57 PM
And so it begins...........
Daily Mail turning their attention to Sanchez after getting bored bashing Ozil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2736898/Manchester-United-not-worse-unbeaten-Arsenal-current-form.html
Cunts.
LOL, this is Jeff Powell IIRC, from his masterpiece about how close his beloved Utd are to us and how, but for us winning in Europe and them getting blown away by the MK Dons, there would be nothing between us.
He's a notorious twat who has been singing the same old tune for decades.
On the same day The Daily Rectum also ran a piece highlighting Utds 8-2 win from ancient history and ran a feature on Robbie Fowler's hattrick against us during the Tudor period.
This is probably due to the difficulties they are having painting World Cup winners as flops, it's a tough sell even for seasoned harlots.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
29-08-2014, 11:42 PM
http://s8.postimg.org/rczwzznp1/shaqtall.jpg
Marc Overmars
30-08-2014, 12:00 AM
She probably needs a wheelchair everytime he's finished with her.
fakeyank
30-08-2014, 03:58 AM
I wouldnt be surprised if his dick was small.. like Chinese man small..
I wouldnt be surprised if his dick was small.. like Chinese man small..
Or, one size smaller than your girlfriend's?
I am invisible
30-08-2014, 06:39 AM
And so it begins...........
Daily Mail turning their attention to Sanchez after getting bored bashing Ozil.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2736898/Manchester-United-not-worse-unbeaten-Arsenal-current-form.html
Cunts.
"Intolerable financial burden"?! What on earth are they dribbling about? Our income was already up by about a hundred million compared to last year, though the new Puma, Emirates and PL TV deals, and that's before we even get to any potential CL money...
Munchies
30-08-2014, 09:15 AM
Daley Blind: Manchester United agree fee with Ajax for defender - BBC Sport
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28994387
Decent player who can play LB and CDM
milla
30-08-2014, 09:49 AM
Or, one size smaller than your girlfriend's?
:blink:
:blink:
FY likes to bang trannys.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
30-08-2014, 09:55 AM
if she had shoes that clipped together, he could wear her as a bum bag
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2014, 10:27 AM
A couple of Dutch mates I know reckon that Blind isn't really that good and Utd have been mugged paying 14 million for him based on a decent world cup and one amazing pass. Hopefully it turns out to be true.
Anyway, here's a blast from the past. Lassnna Diarra, who had that "one year" with us, is on the verge of signing for QPR.
Crooknap :doh:
He buys he same players at every club he goes to. Usually old, past their best and looking for one last pay day.
Hasn't he heard of scouting?
Blind is shit.
A fraction of the player his dad was
milla
30-08-2014, 12:41 PM
FY likes to bang trannys.
May FY burns in hell :coffee:
Grebbo
30-08-2014, 12:53 PM
We've supposedly bid for Carvalho of Sporting Lisbon
Grebbo
30-08-2014, 01:00 PM
I hope we get Carvalho purely from reading this post on Redcafe from a Sporting Lisbon fan:
I have already wrote multiple times about him. He´s the best prospect to come from our Academy since Ronaldo. He´s an absolutely immense player for us. Sporting fans love him and he also gets respect from rival fans from Porto and Benfica (Arruda has also praised him). The engine of the team. Would be extremely gutted if he left. Would love to see him play in the Champions League for us. But so much transfer pressure in the last week. I bet Jorge Mendes is behind this.
I am invisible
30-08-2014, 01:01 PM
Kagawa going back to Dortmund? Guess they won't be needing Reus then. Chuck in that Greek bloke too, while we're pilfering.
I am invisible
30-08-2014, 01:04 PM
We've supposedly bid for Carvalho of Sporting Lisbon
Is this a fresh bid? Supposedly?
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 01:23 PM
Based purely on YouTube I'd prefer Carvalho to Khedira. Hope it's true. Hope we haven't bid £1.01
fakeyank
30-08-2014, 01:34 PM
FY likes to bang trannys.
I am sorry about that night with your mum. It happened years ago and I was young..
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 01:40 PM
I am sorry about that night with your mum. It happened years ago and I was young..
You can't be held responsible for what you did when you were 3
Shaqiri Is Boss
30-08-2014, 01:54 PM
Alex Song loan deal to West Ham confirmed :wacko:
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2014, 01:54 PM
Not sure about Carvalho. Seems a bit slow and languid in his play and he didn't really star at the World Cup - quite anonymous actually. Worried that he could turn out to be another Song. That said those posts from the Sporting Lisbon fan seem quite convincing so I dunno. It's kind of like the Balotelli situation, I would be a bit iffy to sign him but if he went to a rival I would be envious and worried.
Think Wenger will end up going for Rabiot in any case.
Speaking of Song, just unveiled at West Ham. :lol:
What a massive fall from grace. :lol:
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 02:20 PM
Song, jumped ship so he could achieve his lifelong ambition of being embarrassed at a trophy presentation.
McNamara That Ghost...
30-08-2014, 02:30 PM
I hope this Falcao to Man City nonsense isn't correct - no idea who this DiMarzio pubber is that everyone seems to believe.
However though, if it did happen - fairly clear and obvious it would be Man City doing it to deny anybody else getting him. Strikers are a position they need talent desperately after all.
http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/falcao-is-closer-to-joining-manchester-city-he-isnt-starting-for-monaco/
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 02:43 PM
It sounds like Falcao's agent is looking to place him with whoever will pay the wages during his gap year. Fairly obvious the target is Marketing for 2015/16. Do loan deals count in the FFP calculations. If not then it's an easy one for the gypos. Engage cheat mode, wheel out the barrow of meaningless cash, keep him out of the equation for a year. If it is considered as part of FFP then surely they can't do it, having already been sanctioned for cheating. I bet loans are the loophole though.
Tbf, if we were serious about going for the title he'd already be here. He reminds me of Suarez, and considering we genuinely chased Suarez then no idea why we haven't picked up this £20mill option with a view to persuade him to stick around thereafter. With players like Bony listed at £24mill this seems like a reasonable deal (comparatively - obviously not reasonable in terms of the real world).
But with Wenger talking up Sanogo, plainly we aren't in any way serious about challenging for the title.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 02:47 PM
Wait a second, apparently loan fee is now £20mill. Previously it was an all-in £20mill (loan fee plus wages plus bonuses). This is what happens when the gypos get involved, everything doubles. So now price for 1 year would be £30mill. Insane. Will never happen.
Shaqiri Is Boss
30-08-2014, 02:50 PM
Wait a second, apparently loan fee is now £20mill. Previously it was an all-in £20mill (loan fee plus wages plus bonuses). This is what happens when the gypos get involved, everything doubles. So now price for 1 year would be £30mill. Insane. Will never happen.
Tbf when we were supposedly linked with him, the loan fee alone was £20m. Add on to that his £200k/week wages and :faint:
Negredo the one being linked with a move away. :rolleyes:
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 02:55 PM
I thought Negredo ( Wenger :doh: ) was the best striker ever in the history of the universe? Why would they want to get rid of him? Makes no sense - unless he's not really the best striker in the history of the universe ever. Even so, Wenger :doh:
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 02:57 PM
So if the loan fee is £20mill (which is really a fee to reward Monaco for their stupidity) then Falcao is going nowhere. Too much of a risk to take on a player who only appears interested in somehow engineering a move to Marketing.
Master Splinter
30-08-2014, 04:34 PM
Crooknapp has confirmed the Diarra signing and also wants Sandro. Defoe, Crouch and Hreidarsson next.
He's so beyond a joke now that I can't accurately put into words what a travesty of a human being he is.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 04:53 PM
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a433/qwerty12343/fat-dog.jpg
Rosie :bow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwTZx3OIIAAVQNo.jpg:large
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 05:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwTZx3OIIAAVQNo.jpg:large
Fake - original said Real Madrid
Yeah, seen that now.
Me :doh:
Shaqiri Is Boss
30-08-2014, 05:40 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/lemmetweet/tweet/imgs/EYvFcBFgyJchGuOGMxXAFOdu.jpg20140830-2-9htit5?1409420388
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 05:40 PM
Don't really need another DNA case in the team anyway.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2014, 05:41 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/lemmetweet/tweet/imgs/EYvFcBFgyJchGuOGMxXAFOdu.jpg20140830-2-9htit5?1409420388
That one's actually genuine.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
30-08-2014, 06:46 PM
Costa's not better than Giroud :haha:
McNamara That Ghost...
30-08-2014, 06:54 PM
SWAYR needs to stop this, it's like Cripps reborn.
SWAYR needs to stop this, it's like Cripps reborn.
That's even worse than Johnny English Reborn.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
30-08-2014, 08:38 PM
PnG said it in the summer. It needs to be part of the GW banner.
Yeah, no.
PnG does talk a lot of shit, but there's no need to act like a baby.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
30-08-2014, 08:51 PM
If I wanted an opinion from a cunt, I would have asked for one.
If I wanted an opinion from a cunt, I would have asked for one.
I know you are but what am I?
So's your face?
Stop hitting yourself.
Etc, etc...
If I wanted an opinion from a cunt, I would have asked for one.
:lol:
That's right. Everyone else is a cunt, nothing wrong with you.
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Anyway rumours (also reported in the Mail) that we've met the release clause for Remy and are trying to beat Chelsea to the signing. Can't see it happening unless we sell/loan Campbell or Podolski. Any striker moves seem against what Wenger has been saying, apart from all the stuff about poker games.
:lol:
That's right. Everyone else is a cunt, nothing wrong with you.
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Anyway rumours (also reported in the Mail) that we've met the release clause for Remy and are trying to beat Chelsea to the signing. Can't see it happening unless we sell/loan Campbell or Podolski. Any striker moves seem against what Wenger has been saying, apart from all the stuff about poker games.
http://i.imgur.com/9GIkgGh.png
McNamara That Ghost...
30-08-2014, 09:36 PM
In fairness, the last time WUMger was asked about a striker, I think his first response was saying we would stll be looking and from after that he then started listing all the forward players we have.
Having said that, there is so much transfer nonsense I can't wait for Jim White Day to pass.
Japan Shaking All Over
30-08-2014, 10:26 PM
If I wanted an opinion from a cunt, I would have asked for one.
Booooooooo!
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2014, 10:53 PM
Booooooooo!
Are you saying booooo or boooo urns??
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
30-08-2014, 11:06 PM
How many of y'all wives did this Cripps have to bed to get thrown off here!?
Munchies
30-08-2014, 11:45 PM
That's even worse than Johnny English Reborn.
Occasionally, you do post some gems like this.
:haha:
How many of y'all wives did this Cripps have to bed to get thrown off here!?
0
It's common GW knowledge that Cripps has never had sex.
He is either one of the 40 virgins waiting for those terror nutters, or he is just fat :shrug:
0
It's common GW knowledge that Cripps has never had sex.
He is either one of the 40 virgins waiting for those terror nutters, or he is just fat :shrug:
He can be both.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
31-08-2014, 09:43 AM
Remy and Carvalho :pray:
Gooner23
31-08-2014, 09:55 AM
Remy for 10mil is a no brainer. Can't understand why we haven't been in for him before.
Munchies
31-08-2014, 09:59 AM
Rejoice
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwW53rMIcAAkxp0.jpg
Munchies
31-08-2014, 10:20 AM
https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david
' @bbcsport_david · 37m
#AFC haven't met Remy release clause but are in conversations with #QPR about rivalling #CFC for him - IF they let a forward go #bbcfootball'
' @bbcsport_david · 4m
#AFC have dropped Remy interest. Enquired but no longer pursuing. Currently not close to any signings before deadline #QPR #CFC #bbcfootball'
Fuck!!!
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