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Munchies
18-07-2013, 08:16 PM
Blue :bow:.

Red :haha:.

:pal:

Yellow :bow:

Harland
18-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Penis

GP
18-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Butterscotch

Niall_Quinn
18-07-2013, 08:35 PM
Psg have spent a 100 million this summer already, city have spent close to it already too

Might as well give up really. We can't compete with that

And yet we finished about 5 points behind them with the shittiest team we've ever had. Sure we can compete - no doubt about it. The ****s in the boardroom just need to let a few shekels slip through their fingers instead of raking it all in all the time. City are no big thing, comedy club. Some sensible investment (still spending within our means) will be enough to overhaul those ****s. Best chance we've had in years now that an asshole is in charge at Utd.

Niall_Quinn
18-07-2013, 08:38 PM
Fernandinho, Navas, Negrito and Jovetic sounds a bit b-list compared to PSG and Monaco's escapades.

Tevez is still better than all their forward players, apart from an on-form Aguero.

They're spending loads as usual but, as was the question last season, is their first XI vastly improved? The squad is definitely much better now though, of course.

If Chelsea sign Wazza, that's far more deadly than all Citeh's signings combined. A motivated Wazza, that is.

And that's before you factor in all the back-biting (during anal sex) and handbag swinging and other queer stuff that goes on at shitty all the time. Comedy club.

Ollie the Optimist
18-07-2013, 08:38 PM
And yet we finished about 5 points behind them with the shittiest team we've ever had. Sure we can compete - no doubt about it. The ****s in the boardroom just need to let a few shekels slip through their fingers instead of raking it all in all the time. City are no big thing, comedy club. Some sensible investment (still spending within our means) will be enough to overhaul those ****s. Best chance we've had in years now that an asshole is in charge at Utd.


I meant competing more of transfer offers amd wages, not on the pitch

Ollie the Optimist
18-07-2013, 08:41 PM
We've sold santos now too. Well got rid of him to brazil. He's apparently cancelled his contract with us amd signed for some Brazilian club.

Fair play to him for that

GP
18-07-2013, 09:31 PM
Yep, fair play to the guy. Thanks for the goal against Chelsea.

Ollie the Optimist
18-07-2013, 09:37 PM
Yep, fair play to the guy. Thanks for the goal against Chelsea.

And west brom away. Without that goal spurs would have finished above us. But they didn't.


Spurs :haha:

Injury Time
18-07-2013, 10:15 PM
We've sold santos now too. Well got rid of him to brazil. He's apparently cancelled his contract with us amd signed for some Brazilian club.

Fair play to him for that
Wants to play footie, good luck to him, always seemed a nice happy guy- now if only Bendy could show such class :rolleyes:

AKBapologist
18-07-2013, 10:21 PM
That's 18.7mill in wages per season we've freed up.

Is chamakh still on the books?

Would be surprised to still see gerviniho and bendy on the rostra come September....

Hmmm, maybe it's time for another one of my squad analysis threads again to keep track of just how razor thin our team sheet is...

LDG
18-07-2013, 11:05 PM
That's 18.7mill in wages per season we've freed up.

Is chamakh still on the books?

Would be surprised to still see gerviniho and bendy on the rostra come September....

Hmmm, maybe it's time for another one of my squad analysis threads again to keep track of just how razor thin our team sheet is...

Tbf, they're fucking good. Do it.

People often forget that there are rules on who you can squad pick, ECL and BPL.

KSE Comedy Club
18-07-2013, 11:29 PM
Psg have spent a 100 million this summer already, city have spent close to it already too

Might as well give up really. We can't compete with that
Yes we fucking can, the manager just chooses not to.

Ollie the Optimist
18-07-2013, 11:40 PM
Yes we fucking can, the manager just chooses not to.


No we can't. We have a budget, they don't. We need x players within 70 million, they just buy whenever the fuck they want and dont give a shit about price or wages.

Do you really think we could buy 3 players with one costing 55 million and others about 30 each?

Globalgunner
18-07-2013, 11:49 PM
No it's better we do what we do. Which to buy 3 craps players for 12m each and pay them 3m a year. Then a year later desperately seek to sell them with no one taking the bait. In the meantime the few decent players we DO have will be desperate to leave our suck ass coterie of losers. Makes a lot of business sense that. Still, we could still end up ahead of Spurs, which is all that really matters.

LDG
18-07-2013, 11:50 PM
No we can't. We have a budget, they don't. We need x players within 70 million, they just buy whenever the fuck they want and dont give a shit about price or wages.

Do you really think we could buy 3 players with one costing 55 million and others about 30 each?

Depends how big the smokescreen is. We could probably kidnap two, and spend the cash on a Higuain.

Do not forget. DO NOT FORGET. We only buy top top super quality smokescreen. If there is one big enough. We will do it. We have also Chamakh's shisha who can smoke there.

Cripps_orig
18-07-2013, 11:53 PM
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been told he can spend £40m on Liverpool's 26-year-old striker Luis Suarez.
Full story: Daily Mail

Wenger's pursuit of Real Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain, 25, has been hindered by Chelsea's interest in the striker.
Full story: talkSPORT


Bid £40m :haha:

Why is Chelsea being interested a hindrance?

Ollie the Optimist
18-07-2013, 11:59 PM
No it's better we do what we do. Which to buy 3 craps players for 12m each and pay them 3m a year. Then a year later desperately seek to sell them with no one taking the bait. In the meantime the few decent players we DO have will desperate to leave our suck ass coterie of losers. Makes a lot of business sense that. Still, we could still end up ahead of Spurs, which is all that really matters.

I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is, psg, city just throw money at clubs without giving a shit. We want so sign three players for instance with 70 million. We spend 40 on one, 20 amd then 10. Each time we spend, our next player goes down a price bracket because that's how budgeting works. City etc, just go we want three players, give each club 40 million, pay them 200k a week each amd carry on. We can't compete with that, if you think we can, then you are deluded.

We can and should get at least one world class signing this summer. We have to and I don't believe after what has been said by the club they won't do it but we will see.

Globalgunner
19-07-2013, 12:10 AM
I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is, psg, city just throw money at clubs without giving a shit. We want so sign three players for instance with 70 million. We spend 40 on one, 20 amd then 10. Each time we spend, our next player goes down a price bracket because that's how budgeting works. City etc, just go we want three players, give each club 40 million, pay them 200k a week each amd carry on. We can't compete with that, if you think we can, then you are deluded.

We can and should get at least one world class signing this summer. We have to and I don't believe after what has been said by the club they won't do it but we will see.

The main difference between you and almost everyone else on this board is that you steadfastly believe anything the club says even when recent history shows them to be indefensible. AND when they are shown to be lying you go out of your way to rationalize it for them. You are hardcore man, I doff my cap to you.

LDG
19-07-2013, 12:15 AM
Hardcore!

Peh!

I'm parkour.

Özim
19-07-2013, 12:38 AM
Why is Chelsea being interested a hindrance?

They haven't placed a bid either.

Özil's Panoramic View
19-07-2013, 01:17 AM
Ollie, how do you know for certain that we only have £70 mil to spend? Did you get some kind of 'official' confirmation as I can't see you going by media hogwash

fakeyank
19-07-2013, 01:18 AM
Ollie, how do you know for certain that we only have £70 mil to spend? Did you get some kind of 'official' confirmation as I can't see you going by media hogwash

Ollie is Wenger :ninja:

Harland
19-07-2013, 01:59 AM
Ollie is Wenger :ninja:

Ollie! Can I has your autograph pls

Maestro
19-07-2013, 02:09 AM
Ollie is Vietnamese, simples!

Injury Time
19-07-2013, 04:59 AM
Ollie is Vietnamese, simples!

Jog on!

KSE Comedy Club
19-07-2013, 05:57 AM
No we can't. We have a budget, they don't. We need x players within 70 million, they just buy whenever the fuck they want and dont give a shit about price or wages.

Do you really think we could buy 3 players with one costing 55 million and others about 30 each?Actually yeh I do.

I reckon if they really wanted to and they were genuinely concerned with winning things and not just making cash to stuff in their pockets, the board could speak to Silent Stan and sanction those sorts of signings plus wages and we'd be alright.

I reckon there's much more money than were being lead to believe tbh. We have not one, but two billionaire owners ffs.

Ok so usmanov is rather unfairly being left out of the equation, but that's not the point.

AKBapologist
19-07-2013, 06:22 AM
We've all been told that theres loads of money, if anyone is blindly believing the hype, it's those who insist we can spend 100mill in one summer after diddle dallying for 2 months whilst every big club gets their pick of the crop.

selassie
19-07-2013, 08:02 AM
I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is, psg, city just throw money at clubs without giving a shit. We want so sign three players for instance with 70 million. We spend 40 on one, 20 amd then 10. Each time we spend, our next player goes down a price bracket because that's how budgeting works. City etc, just go we want three players, give each club 40 million, pay them 200k a week each amd carry on. We can't compete with that, if you think we can, then you are deluded.

We can and should get at least one world class signing this summer. We have to and I don't believe after what has been said by the club they won't do it but we will see.

No Ollie, it's got nothing to do with City, Chelsea or any of those "billionaire boys" and all to do with our awful negiotation team. Honestly, they ought to be fired, they seem incapable of closing out a deal and dither for bloody months trying to sign players.

Arsene would of most likely identified the areas that need improving in the team/squad, yet here we are a month from the kick off still dragging our feets over closing deals.

What on earth is going on I ask? Just sign some f*cking players for god sake, everybody else seems to do it, it's not some complicated mathematical equation.

IF, we fail to sign anybody of note this summer, then Arsene, Ivan and Dick Law really have some SERIOUS questions to answer, heads should roll.

LDG
19-07-2013, 08:06 AM
http://havearsenalspentanymoneyyet.com/


:haha:

Munchies
19-07-2013, 08:48 AM
http://havearsenalspentanymoneyyet.com/


:haha:

:lol:

Wow, the season is pretty close, so much for signing players early so they could find their feet at the start.

Will we really go on to make 0 proper signings ? At the moment I think we won't sign anyone now.

:rose:

Ollie the Optimist
19-07-2013, 08:56 AM
Ollie, how do you know for certain that we only have £70 mil to spend? Did you get some kind of 'official' confirmation as I can't see you going by media hogwash

In regards to the points I was making last night, replace 70 million with anyone number. I was talking about budgeting and using 70 as an example

AKBapologist
19-07-2013, 09:07 AM
So far, we've made a profit of £2mill this transfer window. We probably now have a wage bill lower than liverpool and spurs. :lol:

LDG
19-07-2013, 09:14 AM
Twitter ( :haha: ) says we've bid on two strikers. From a total of three we're chasing....2 in Germany, 1 in France.

LOl

LDG
19-07-2013, 09:16 AM
Twitter ( :haha: ) also says that we may unveil Cesc as early as today.

:lol:

Niall_Quinn
19-07-2013, 09:29 AM
http://havearsenalspentanymoneyyet.com/


:haha:

Something reliable to watch at last. Relax everyone, I have this covered. As soon as it changes I'll announce it here.

GP
19-07-2013, 09:29 AM
ROFL Harris

LDG
19-07-2013, 09:33 AM
Great LOL's of Fire

GP
19-07-2013, 09:34 AM
LOLocaust

Edinburgh Gooner
19-07-2013, 12:00 PM
Espn are reporting that we have signed Bernard for 21 million.

GP
19-07-2013, 12:02 PM
Matthews?

Bootiful.

Edinburgh Gooner
19-07-2013, 12:05 PM
Matthews?

Bootiful.
Ha ha

Ollie the Optimist
19-07-2013, 12:11 PM
Espn are reporting that we have signed Bernard for 21 million.

It's a hoax apparently. Seen people saying they reported it but nothing on their website

Cripps_orig
19-07-2013, 12:13 PM
Espn are reporting that we have signed Bernard for 21 million.

Nothing on the site.

Where did you get that from?

McNamara That Ghost...
19-07-2013, 12:19 PM
Twitter.

Cripps_orig
19-07-2013, 12:22 PM
Twitter :haha:

Corrected your little mistake there

I_Killed_Kenny
19-07-2013, 12:31 PM
dam! that kid is meant to be awsome. i havent actually seen anything of him but bags of skill apparently. Would love us to get a proper flair player (if thats what he is, correct me if I am wrong). would love to have someone that can twine up the oppo defences and not get confused by his own feet like gervs!

Özim
19-07-2013, 01:10 PM
Espn are reporting that we have signed Bernard for 21 million.
Are we sure it isn't St Bernard?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ33WYzNWyjqscN9Dei__0CM4CCwIXGv Pw9o0uLFvEscCOLtiAPBg

Harland
19-07-2013, 02:14 PM
I had a revelation last night. I have made sense of our transfer dealings so far.

I believe we we're serious about Higuain. If you think about it, 20-25 million is quite a bargain for a player like him. Then the valuation supposedly changed to reflect probably a 130% of his 'true value and Wenger isn't prepared to pay anywhere near that.

Suarez is interesting. I believe that Wenger is purely in for him because of his ban. This way, we can approach the deadline with a ready made excuse that some people will fabricate for him. "Don't worry that we haven't signed any players even though the season has started! We are after Suarez and therefore it doesn't make a difference if we get him now or on deadline day! He is banned anyway! "

This will buy the club some time to elevate pressure from themselves. Then after deadline day, the club will release a statement, "we had agreed a transfer fee and personal terms with Suarez, But we we're relying Diaby's fax machine to send over the finalized paperwork But unfortunately it has broken down. Upon reflection, his fax machine has in fact been broken for 11 months out of a year but we have faith that we can use it again for the January window and next summer too."

Edinburgh Gooner
19-07-2013, 02:24 PM
Nothing on the site.

Where did you get that from?
Got it from caught offside so it probably is bollocks lol

Özim
19-07-2013, 02:28 PM
According to Daily Mail it's Liverpool and Spurs after him:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2370095/Liverpool-Tottenham-chasing-Bernard.html

Most of these papers contain about 0.000001% of truth in them when it comes to transfer so I'd take it all with a pinch of salt.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
19-07-2013, 04:34 PM
http://www.football.co.uk/arsenal/arsenal_agree_deal_for_brazilian_wonder_kid_bernar d_rss4341033.shtml

Hoax apparently

Cripps_orig
19-07-2013, 04:40 PM
Twitter :haha:

Maestro
19-07-2013, 04:42 PM
would have loved Bernard at arsenal. really exciting young player.

McNamara That Ghost...
19-07-2013, 04:43 PM
Bentekkers has withdrawn his transfer request and has signed a contact extension. :lol:

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
19-07-2013, 04:46 PM
We don't need a winger....we have Cazorla who we can play out of position there until he becomes fat and ambivalent like Arshavin

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
19-07-2013, 04:49 PM
Bentekkers has withdrawn his transfer request and has signed a contact extension. :lol:

Endemic of the summer really....because of the billionaire clubs....most of these clubs like Villa know they can hold out for obscene amounts of money for their top players. Man City is the only club in the top four of the premier league that has done significant transfer business (Chelsea have bought in squad players).

GP
19-07-2013, 05:02 PM
Bentekkers has withdrawn his transfer request and has signed a contact extension. :lol:

He obviously realised Spurs were the only club interested.

Ollie the Optimist
19-07-2013, 06:20 PM
Santos has gone. He cancelled the contract with us and signed in brazil.


Have to say, the club have got ruthless with deadwood, and are not concerned with money either. Just get rid. Pay up contracts etc but are just getting rid of them. Good to see

Master Splinter
19-07-2013, 06:25 PM
would have loved Bernard at arsenal. really exciting young player.

I would have loved WATCHing him.

:haha:

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
19-07-2013, 06:29 PM
I would have loved WATCHing him.

:haha:

Is there a whole host of Brazillian stars out there who have names that English Mothers gave to their kids in the 1950s

Derick?, Clive?, Arthur?, Arnold, Brian, Leonard, Malcolm?...I hope so.

Master Splinter
19-07-2013, 06:33 PM
Barnsley have signed former Manchester United striker John Cofie on a one-year deal with the option of a second.

The 20-year-old was released by the Red Devils earlier this summer having spent time on loan with Sheffield United and Notts County last season.

Cofie, who never played a first team game for United, moved to Old Trafford from Burnley at the age of 14.

"He's a signing with immense talent and potential," Tykes boss David Flitcroft told BBC Radio Sheffield.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8-Rihpj_4c46v0hxutYquYk4wr6h-nkjR64dM2zmcB0s5aYHpbA

:bow:

KSE Comedy Club
19-07-2013, 06:42 PM
Santos has gone. He cancelled the contract with us and signed in brazil.


Have to say, the club have got ruthless with deadwood, and are not concerned with money either. Just get rid. Pay up contracts etc but are just getting rid of them. Good to see
Yes that's right.

Not concerned about money unless it comes to spending it :coffee:

Shaqiri Is Boss
19-07-2013, 08:27 PM
PSG have signed some 19 y/o Roma defender for £27m. :wacko:

They only bought him a year ago for just under £4m.

Ambition :bow:

Really though, I don't know what will push me over the edge and make me stop watching football altogether, but I think I'm getting close to it...

Grebbo
19-07-2013, 09:06 PM
Really though, I don't know what will push me over the edge and make me stop watching football altogether, but I think I'm getting close to it...

How about supporting some biting, cheating, diving, racist wanker only for him to join us?

Injury Time
19-07-2013, 09:11 PM
How about supporting some biting, cheating, diving, racist wanker only for him to join us?
Just need to add a cheeky bid for JT and his dad to make a dream team :cloud9:

GP
19-07-2013, 09:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/FgXUjTi.jpg

GP
19-07-2013, 10:00 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-luis-suarez-ready-2067746


Luis Suarez is ready to tell Liverpool that he wants to join Arsenal

And as this was written by John Cross, who's very close to the club, I'm 100% sure it's bullpiss.

Shaqiri Is Boss
19-07-2013, 10:01 PM
How about supporting some biting, cheating, diving, racist wanker only for him to join us?

Sending Reina to Napoli on loan would probably do it.


Ah shit.

Grebbo
19-07-2013, 10:10 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-luis-suarez-ready-2067746



And as this was written by John Cross, who's very close to the club, I'm 100% sure it's bullpiss.

Cross is on tour with Arsenal in Asia, he's effectively our PR machine.

A few things make Suarez coming to us unlikely:

1. RM will eventually bid for him and he'll go there
2. Arsenal are better than Liverpool but we're not going to win anything so why come to us?
3. Would Liverpool sell to an English club? They don't need the money and Suarez still has years left on his contract. He's going to have to go on strike for him to force a move to us. Wouldn't put it past him but its another obstacle. Liverpool sold Torres to Chavs but I can't see them doing it again.

Oh and the most obvious reason.... Arsenal don't sign star players

Özim
19-07-2013, 10:12 PM
Also are we expected to believe that from being penny pinchers we'd suddenly blow 40 million plus god knows how much on wages on a player. Hang on, I need that big bag of salt again.

GP
19-07-2013, 10:15 PM
Hang on, I need that big bag of salt again.

You should just go ahead and eat it all in one go.

Özim
19-07-2013, 10:16 PM
You should just go ahead and eat it all in one go.
Why don't you do it first and then tell me what it was like, I'll consider it then.

Niall_Quinn
19-07-2013, 10:33 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-luis-suarez-ready-2067746



And as this was written by John Cross, who's very close to the club, I'm 100% sure it's bullpiss.

That mirror web site is absolute crap. 40 errors and 18 blocked adverts plus who designed the fucking thing? It's almost as bad as their reporting.

GP
19-07-2013, 10:54 PM
That mirror web site is absolute crap. 40 errors and 18 blocked adverts plus who designed the fucking thing? It's almost as bad as their reporting.

Must be your shitty browser.

Niall_Quinn
19-07-2013, 11:00 PM
Must be your shitty browser.

Ain't my shitty browser, it's Google's shitty browser. It was either that or Mozilla's shitty browser or Microsoft's shitty half browser. I haven't tried it but I'm betting if I viewed the mirror in Apple's shitty browser it would still be a shitty site full of shitty fairy tales.

Cripps_orig
19-07-2013, 11:03 PM
Suarez has more chance of winning stuff at Liverpool than us.

He has more chance of playing and getting knocked out early in the CL with us than Liverpool.

Özil's Panoramic View
20-07-2013, 01:30 AM
Wenger gets Mata & Suarez here in same window and I'll put on back my 'I luv AW' T-shirt and rejoin the throng of worshipping disciples. :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
20-07-2013, 09:09 AM
How many are in this throng to begin with?

Seaman's Ponytail
20-07-2013, 09:49 AM
How many are in this throng to begin with?

One. His name is Ollie

Xhaka Can’t
20-07-2013, 11:37 AM
Cross is on tour with Arsenal in Asia, he's effectively our PR machine.

A few things make Suarez coming to us unlikely:

1. RM will eventually bid for him and he'll go there
2. Arsenal are better than Liverpool but we're not going to win anything so why come to us?
3. Would Liverpool sell to an English club? They don't need the money and Suarez still has years left on his contract. He's going to have to go on strike for him to force a move to us. Wouldn't put it past him but its another obstacle. Liverpool sold Torres to Chavs but I can't see them doing it again.

Oh and the most obvious reason.... Arsenal don't sign star players

We make them.

Then we sell them.

Dicks and chicks
20-07-2013, 01:01 PM
BASICALLY IF HIGUAIN SIGNS FOR NAPOLI WE ARE FUCKED

because RM will buy suarez

and we will probably panic buy bernard and michu

Özim
20-07-2013, 01:06 PM
We've done a good job getting rid of dead wood this summer, we haven't had a problem with that, but then I guess we're improving profits by doing so so that's probably the greater priority that improving the side.

KSE Comedy Club
20-07-2013, 03:20 PM
We've done a good job getting rid of dead wood this summer, we haven't had a problem with that, but then I guess we're improving profits by doing so so that's probably the greater priority that improving the side.

Not the best job though.

Wenger's still here

Munchies
20-07-2013, 03:47 PM
Chelsea are being linked to Higuain now...

Cripps_orig
20-07-2013, 03:51 PM
They were linked to him days ago tbh

Niall_Quinn
20-07-2013, 04:01 PM
Yes, the chavs have already reached H in the player directory.

KSE Comedy Club
20-07-2013, 04:29 PM
Yes, the chavs have already reached H in the player directory.
Whereas we seem to be stuck at N for No-one.

Özil's Panoramic View
20-07-2013, 06:14 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?

milla
20-07-2013, 08:41 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?

FFS we signed Yaya Sanogo weeks ago.. :coffee:

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
20-07-2013, 09:10 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?

yes we signed legless

Niall_Quinn
20-07-2013, 09:24 PM
FFS we signed Yaya Sanogo weeks ago.. :coffee:

You drink too much coffee dude.

And freebie cripples don't count.

milla
20-07-2013, 09:37 PM
You drink too much coffee dude.

And freebie cripples don't count.

The fecker hasn't start a single game for us yet he is already crippled? Wumger :lol:

Munchies
20-07-2013, 10:25 PM
One we could have signed , £22m doesn't seem that bad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq2BcxO5AH0&list=TLn005bS0qYrg

Niall_Quinn
20-07-2013, 10:35 PM
One we could have signed , £22m doesn't seem that bad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq2BcxO5AH0&list=TLn005bS0qYrg

£750K per hour wages, city's new minimum wage.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
20-07-2013, 10:38 PM
when chelsea sign higuain and suarez goes to madrid who are we left with?

Özim
20-07-2013, 11:00 PM
We're left with our number 1 target this summer, the only player we truly wanted to sign, the guy who is going to turn us from top 4 material to championship challengers.

Winnebago.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
20-07-2013, 11:01 PM
is he a legless wannabe postman too?

Cripps_orig
20-07-2013, 11:38 PM
Arsenal have told Queens Park Rangers goalkeeper Julio Cesar, 33, he will have to take a pay cut if he wants to move to the Emirates Stadium.
Full story: Metro


:haha:

So much for being able to pay top dollar wages

Niall_Quinn
20-07-2013, 11:54 PM
when chelsea sign higuain and suarez goes to madrid who are we left with?

Giroud and Theo. But it's not a total disaster, we also have Gervinho who can play there.

Niall_Quinn
20-07-2013, 11:55 PM
These tightwad ****s in charge really are destroying a great club.

Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 12:06 AM
They've managed to do it to us again. This time was even better, what with all the big names floating around and the promise of money. Some will believe right up until the window shuts. But some will hold their hands up and give some credit to the board. Yes they are absolutely screwing us, but you have to admire the way they go about it. They have always knows that football breeds loyalty and loyalty can be used as a weapon.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 07:08 AM
santi carzola signs for Atletico Madrid:http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/415456/Atletico-Madrid-agree-deal-for-Arsenal-midfielder-Santi-Cazorla


he's agreed personal terms to move to athletico

No, this is the same kind article from four days ago that had already been posted and has since turned out to be rubbish.

Globalgunner
21-07-2013, 07:54 AM
santi carzola signs for Atletico Madrid:http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/415456/Atletico-Madrid-agree-deal-for-Arsenal-midfielder-Santi-Cazorla


he's agreed personal terms to move to athletico

No, this is the same kind article from four days ago that had already been posted and has since turned out to be rubbish.

Thanks Marcy. This would finally be the straw that broke my fkn back

Munchies
21-07-2013, 08:02 AM
Knowing our board , something like that wouldn't surprise me now

Munchies
21-07-2013, 08:05 AM
:haha:

So much for being able to pay top dollar wages

:haha:

Even after clearing the deadwood

up the arse
21-07-2013, 08:39 AM
"Arsenal seem set to miss out on............"

cricketsi
21-07-2013, 09:12 AM
So, perhaps I misunderstood this FFP thing - it seems to be a communal concept - so because PSG, Real Madrid, Monaco and Shitty have been spending like crazy, we have to be extra prudent to balance the global books. Jolly decent of us.

Ralpheroo72
21-07-2013, 09:26 AM
I thought last summer was bad, then this summer happened. Used to look forward to the start of the season, now I couldnt give a fuck. Its like they are deliberately trying to fuck the club up.

KSE Comedy Club
21-07-2013, 09:32 AM
Fucking ****s, the lot of them!

The sooner they all fuck off, crash the pleasure boat, blow up, burn and be killed until they die from it, the better!

Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 11:03 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8832513/defender-andre-santos-quits-gunners-for-brazilian-club-flamengo

Santos gone to Flamengo.

Panic buy. Won't be missed but we made some bad decisions in that window.

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:14 AM
Benayoun :lol:

Arteta :haha:

That day when arsenal history is looked backed upon will always be known as the day of hell

Özim
21-07-2013, 11:15 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8832513/defender-andre-santos-quits-gunners-for-brazilian-club-flamengo

Santos gone to Flamengo.

Panic buy. Won't be missed but we made some bad decisions in that window.
Panic buying at it's worst thanks to another incompetent summer of transfers, he never learns.

Munchies
21-07-2013, 11:17 AM
Park :haha:

Where the fuck is he now ?

Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 11:21 AM
Don't forget Park.

It worries me that Gervinho wasn't a panic buy. :lol: Don't even get me started on Chamakh.

GP
21-07-2013, 11:22 AM
Hindsight :haha:

Özim
21-07-2013, 11:24 AM
Didn't need hindsight to know this lot were going to be sh*t to be fair, just common sense.

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:27 AM
Park :haha:

How the fuck did I forget him?

He wasn't a Wenger buy tbh....:haha:

Joker
21-07-2013, 11:27 AM
Didn't need hindsight to know this lot were going to be sh*t to be fair, just common sense.

Agreed, there were a lot of people complaining about the signings of Park, Gervinho and Santos. When we needed good quality players we went searching the bargain basement again.

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:27 AM
Didn't need hindsight to know this lot were going to be sh*t to be fair, just common sense.

Pretty much.

At the time the only one I was happy with was Mertesacker and he's the only one who's impressed

Özim
21-07-2013, 11:34 AM
He wasn't a Wenger buy tbh....:haha:

He was bought by the next manager :lol:

Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 11:38 AM
Damn right hindsight. I don't get paid enough to scout players and trust the club know what the heck they're doing when purchasing players. It doesn't bode well when 3 of the players you signed in one window are on the verge or have already been given the boot.

Window before that our main signings were Chamakh, Squillaci and Kosienly. 2/3 are gone. It's a lot of waste and after one season their gone. Makes me wonder what will happen with Pod and Giroud this window.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:44 AM
are we gonna assume that joel campell will get some game time this season seeing as we are so short upfront? god knows what will happen if giroud gets injured

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:45 AM
Joel Campbell :haha:

Oh dear god our squad is horrific

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:45 AM
i sorta want carzola to sign for Ath Madrid, just to see the look on Maccy's face.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:46 AM
Joel Campbell :haha:

Oh dear god our squad is horrific
scored 3 times in the league for betis last season. that 3 more league goals than park scored during his entire arsenal career, more than chamak scored in the PL this season.

hes a step up

McNamara That Ghost...
21-07-2013, 11:48 AM
i sorta want carzola to sign for Ath Madrid, just to see the look on Maccy's face.

Well if it's official, then you can post saying he has signed. It isn't official, so don't. Not hard to understand really.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:48 AM
why don't we try and buy some bayern players, they have too many midfielders.

Also what is everyones thoughts regarding Sakho from PSG, now that they bought that 19 year old defender for 27mil surely they are looking to sell

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:49 AM
Well if it's official, then you can post saying he has signed. It isn't official, so don't. Not hard to understand really.

the evening standard said it was true.

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:50 AM
why don't we try and buy some bayern players, they have too many midfielders.

Also what is everyones thoughts regarding Sakho from PSG, now that they bought that 19 year old defender for 27mil surely they are looking to sell
I'd take Sakho here.

He looks quality.

Munchies
21-07-2013, 11:51 AM
why don't we try and buy some bayern players, they have too many midfielders.

Also what is everyones thoughts regarding Sakho from PSG, now that they bought that 19 year old defender for 27mil surely they are looking to sell

Martinez, Thiago, Kroos, Götze, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Robben, Müller, Shaqiri, Gustavo, Emre Can

I'd get Sakho

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:52 AM
Shaqiri as well

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:54 AM
Martinez, Thiago, Kroos, Götze, Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Robben, Müller, Shaqiri, Gustavo, Emre Can

I'd get Sakho

we should go for kroos and shaqiri, with a world cup year coming they would want games and are a huge step up from anything we have

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:55 AM
I'd take Sakho here.

He looks quality.

he's better than anything we have

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:55 AM
surprised we never signed sakho tbh, always seemed like one of those "arsenal destined players"

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 11:58 AM
i would rather we signed Jackson Martinez than Suarez tbh for the following reasons :

cheaper
isn't racist because he's already black himself
amazing goal scoring record
easily looks like the new falcao
probably £30mil should do it

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 12:05 PM
i would rather we signed Jackson Martinez than Suarez tbh for the following reasons :

cheaper
isn't racist because he's already black himself
amazing goal scoring record
easily looks like the new falcao
probably £30mil should do it
If he's black, how does he look like the new Falcao?

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 12:06 PM
he's better than anything we have

That's not difficult tbf.

Mertesacker and Sakho would be awesome though

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 12:11 PM
If he's black, how does he look like the new Falcao?

by his immense scoring record

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 12:14 PM
we should go for kroos and shaqiri, with a world cup year coming they would want games and are a huge step up from anything we have

Doubt they'll let Kroos go.

Shaqiri is possible

GP
21-07-2013, 12:16 PM
isn't racist because he's already black himself


:haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
21-07-2013, 12:43 PM
the evening standard said it was true.

From four days ago. If it were really true, I think a thread would have been made.

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 01:00 PM
The Gunners are also back in the race to sign Real Madrid striker Gonzalo Higuain, 25, as Napoli are unwilling to match the £35m price tag set by the Spanish club.
Full story: Mail on Sunday


And we are willing?

McNamara That Ghost...
21-07-2013, 01:10 PM
I'm beginning to think with all the (more) inflated transfer fees, FFP is having the adverse effect.

AKBapologist
21-07-2013, 01:32 PM
Looks like higs to napoli is almost done...

Özil's Panoramic View
21-07-2013, 01:34 PM
Meanwhile....

"@BBCSport: Tottenham agree a deal to sign Belgian winger Nacer Chadli from FC Twente #THFC"

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 01:39 PM
Our rivals are strengthening.

We are not.

Just go Wenger.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 01:40 PM
Looks like higs to napoli is almost done...

just waiting for carzola to seal his move to ath madrid and thats the summer rapped up.

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 01:40 PM
Surely we won't sell Cazorla.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 01:43 PM
Surely we won't sell Cazorla.

he wants to leave and hasn't settled in England,
plus we need to profit this summer.

He's our ideal player to cash in on

Özim
21-07-2013, 01:44 PM
Apparently reports are saying Napoli have thwarted us in our attempts to sign Higuain.

Can you be thwarted if you've never made a bid and would never be willing to pay the fee required?

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 01:45 PM
how the fuck is park even still here?

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 01:46 PM
Apparently reports are saying Napoli have thwarted us in our attempts to sign Higuain.

Can you be thwarted if you've never made a bid and would never be willing to pay the fee required?
LOOKS LIKE HE WILL BE PLAYING IN THE EMIRATES CUP AFTER ALL. I HAD MY DOUBTS AFTER WE WERENT GONNA SIGN HIM

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 01:47 PM
how the fuck is park even still here?

It's the million dollar question.

And those million dollars are going in to wengers and the boards pockets as I type this

Özim
21-07-2013, 01:49 PM
How do they manage to get away with this every f*cking summer, every year it's the same and yet people find more and more excuses as to why things have changed and how we've seen the light etc etc

Sick to death of this BS, when are we going to see some heads roll for this incompetence, the state of the squad is shocking and the BS excuses about not many players and too much money are pathetic.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 01:54 PM
It's the million dollar question.

And those million dollars are going in to wengers and the boards pockets as I type this

as soon as they cash in on carzola

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 01:54 PM
How do they manage to get away with this every f*cking summer, every year it's the same and yet people find more and more excuses as to why things have changed and how we've seen the light etc etc

Sick to death of this BS, when are we going to see some heads roll for this incompetence, the state of the squad is shocking and the BS excuses about not many players and too much money are pathetic.
we have park chu young

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 01:57 PM
no one available, higuain is off to napoli suarez to RM , were does that leave us? With Joel Campbell upfront

Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 02:01 PM
Summers not over yet but I'm worried we'll go into panic buy mode. When we have a transfer target we usually move early and get them before pre-season training. We other other positions to think about besides strikers so it's all a mystery.

Niall_Quinn
21-07-2013, 02:05 PM
I'm worried our rivals will twig and hide the bins. Then we'll have nowhere to look for signings. We'll have to start hanging around outside schools and hospitals.

Dicks and chicks
21-07-2013, 02:10 PM
I'm worried our rivals will twig and hide the bins. Then we'll have nowhere to look for signings. We'll have to start hanging around outside schools and hospitals.

i hope we sign a good player.

Özim
21-07-2013, 02:35 PM
Summers not over yet but I'm worried we'll go into panic buy mode. When we have a transfer target we usually move early and get them before pre-season training. We other other positions to think about besides strikers so it's all a mystery.
You're right it's but we can spot a pattern, we've dithered in the transfer market when we could have had a large part of our business done and dusted. The excuses have begun to come out about the few players and price being high, this is just like the waiting period all over again.

Everyone else will sign the available quality players and we'll be left scratching around for anyone we can get in and end up wasting money on players who aren't good enough and who will struggle to shift, either that or we'll sign one player and be done with it.

It's totally ridiculous a club can be run like this and it's totally ridiculous that a manager at a club is happy about it as well.

Our transfer target list is usually made up of one difficult to obtain player who is either unavailable, too expensive or just isn't interested in signing for us. We spend 2 1/2 months getting nowhere then sit around looking at each other wondering what we should do next when we eventually realise this sole target isn't coming.

There should be some serious questions being asked right now, not at the end of August when the CL deadline arrives.

Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 03:43 PM
Securing Suarez would be a breakthrough for us. Besides smashing our transfer record, we'd have actually taken a player off a club that was reluctant to sell. It would be a massive step. Side stepping the controversy, I can understand why he'd seem like a realistic big name signing for us. Prem experience, hasn't played CL football and there aren't many clubs bidding. But I also fear we've purposely hung our hat in hard to reach place. If shit fail, we get the old 'we tried' excuse.

We should still be looking for other positions regardless of the outcome of the strikers.

Globalgunner
21-07-2013, 03:49 PM
The squad we have is good enough for our stated target of 4th. Odds are that Pool will still be crap. Our Voodoo hex on the Spuds is still valid till 2020 I think, especially now that Benteke who could have pushed then on is staying at Villa and Adebayor will still be missing sitters left right and center. We were never going to challenge the top 3 anyway, not with u know who still as manager. Nothing to worry about really. Best to forget this coming season and wind forward to 2014. Maybe then things will change, if Wenger gets a contract extension however, we should change the name of this board to "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here".

Power n Glory
21-07-2013, 03:56 PM
But we'd be missing a massive opportunity to grab the title this year. So many teams are in transition. If Jose gets enough time with Chelsea, things will get a lot harder for us.

Globalgunner
21-07-2013, 04:04 PM
I wish I could be optimistic but seeing how we are perennially crap against the other top4 teams and our no tactics leader can't win crunch games, no matter who they are against, Birmingham, Bradford or Bayern. It seems futile

AKBapologist
21-07-2013, 04:11 PM
The squad we have is good enough for our stated target of 4th.
Nope.

Globalgunner
21-07-2013, 04:16 PM
Nope.

No 4th is not our stated target or no we will be beaten for 4th place...by who

AKBapologist
21-07-2013, 06:06 PM
No 4th is not our stated target or no we will be beaten for 4th place...by who
People forget that we've cleared out a lot of "deadwood. Combine that with only having 1 fit center half and one true center forward, we're significantly weaker now than at any point over the last 2 years.

Granted, wenger will probably sign a bunch of dross to make up the numbers and then will finish 4th.but right this minute we have 19 senior players compared to 25 for our rivals



"@Orbinho: Higuain v Suarez last two seasons: Goals 38-34, Mins/goal 91-162, Conversion 38%- 14%, Assists 12-8, Mins/assist 288-689. Mins 3451-5511"

"@Orbinho: Chance conversion 2012-13 Podolski 33%, Walcott 23%, Sturridge 19%, Cazorla 16%, Suarez 16%, Giroud 13%"

"@Orbinho: I am just highlighting the fact that if you spend £40m on a main striker, you'd expect them to score better than one in six chances."

@Orbinho :bow:

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 06:10 PM
Robinho :lol:

GP
21-07-2013, 06:10 PM
Stats :bow:

Marc Overmars
21-07-2013, 06:12 PM
We just need to get that one top signing in and hopefully people will sit up and take notice. Arsenal probably doesn't even register on these players radar anymore simply because we're never interested, so our reputation needs to be built up again. Suarez would be an incredible signing for many reasons.

Xhaka Can’t
21-07-2013, 06:22 PM
It would have added to AW's red card count Sky love talking about.

No doubt we'll hear how AW has overseen a team with far more red cards than any other serving EPL manager.

Japan Shaking All Over
21-07-2013, 10:29 PM
One we could have signed , £22m doesn't seem that bad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq2BcxO5AH0&list=TLn005bS0qYrg

not entirely true as far as I recall because he obviously didnt want anything to do with us hence all the talkof him wanting to stay in Italy......that is till Ciyeh came along andhe moved there to win things

GP
21-07-2013, 10:32 PM
Money talks.

I'd even move somewhere massively shit like France, Scotland, Middle East, Bangladesh, Alderaan or Wales if the money was right.

Japan Shaking All Over
21-07-2013, 10:38 PM
Money talks.

I'd even move somewhere massively shit like France, Scotland, Middle East, Bangladesh, Alderaan or Wales if the money was right.

How about Croydon?

Japan Shaking All Over
21-07-2013, 10:39 PM
not entirely true as far as I recall because he obviously didnt want anything to do with us hence all the talkof him wanting to stay in Italy......that is till Ciyeh came along andhe moved there to win things

Nasri :haha:

GP
21-07-2013, 10:46 PM
How about Croydon?

Fuck that shit.

Japan Shaking All Over
21-07-2013, 10:59 PM
:)
see....thats the difference between moneyhungry pieces of vermin and normal folks......(we have our bounderies.....Croydon being one of them!!)

Cripps_orig
21-07-2013, 11:07 PM
Arsenal could turn to Swansea's Ashley Williams, 28, to cope with their growing defensive crisis.

Full story: Metro

The Gunners could also revive their interest in Real Madrid striker Gonzalo Higuain, 25, who is stalling on a move to Napoli because he is keen on a move to London.
Full story: Daily Mirror


Getting in a shit CB does not help a defensive crisis.

He's going to Chelsea.

Fist of Lehmann
21-07-2013, 11:12 PM
"@Orbinho: Chance conversion 2012-13 Podolski 33%, Walcott 23%, Sturridge 19%, Cazorla 16%, Suarez 16%, Giroud 13%"

@Orbinho :bow:

Compelling proof at last, that Suarez is slightly better than Giroud.

Stats prove all the things tbh.

Stats :bow:

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 02:28 AM
WOJCIECH SZCZESNY insists Arsenal have strengthened over the summer — even though they have yet to make a big signing.
The fact no top names are on their way out has convinced the keeper that good times lie ahead.
Szczesny said: “You try not to think of the sagas — Cesc Fabregas, Robin van Persie and Samir Nasri.
“But it’s always in your mind you’ll lose another top player.
“This time, everyone is talking about who Arsenal are bringing in. That makes us feel stronger.”
The Poland No 1 was dropped for a dip in form last term but will fight for a place even if Arsene Wenger signs a keeper.
He added: “I’d do my very best to compete. I wouldn’t be thinking about going elsewhere.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5026563/Wojciech-Szczesny-insists-Arsenal-are-stronger.html#ixzz2ZjmXukkx

We have strengthened by talking about signing players. Excellent. The advantage we have here is we can continue strengthening even after the window has shut.

Ralpheroo72
22-07-2013, 04:46 AM
Time for Biglia to come home!

KSE Comedy Club
22-07-2013, 06:59 AM
We have strengthened by talking about signing players. Excellent. The advantage we have here is we can continue strengthening even after the window has shut.

Honestly, you couldn't make it up.

Wenger has taught him well

Ralpheroo72
22-07-2013, 09:31 AM
Man Ure in again for Cesc

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8835326/david-moyes-confirms-second-manchester-united-bid-for-cesc-fabregas

GP
22-07-2013, 09:32 AM
Strange he's doing it all so publicly.

Bless him.

Grebbo
22-07-2013, 09:44 AM
Man Ure in again for Cesc

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8835326/david-moyes-confirms-second-manchester-united-bid-for-cesc-fabregas

Cesc and RVP at Manure

:upset:

Tbh unless we sign Messi nothing we do in this transfer window is going to make up for having to watch Cesc and RVP play for Manure.

Keith
22-07-2013, 10:03 AM
Cesc and RVP at Manure

:upset:

Tbh unless we sign Messi nothing we do in this transfer window is going to make up for having to watch Cesc and RVP play for Manure.

If Wenger has spoken to Cesc as per last weeks reports, he thinks that Cesc will be available for transfer next summer.

However, Utd wouldn't be so public if they didn't expect to sign him.

Hopefully, Wenger knows on this one and will bring him back rather than letting him go to United.



Not sure, how what Moyes is saying and doing is any different to Chelsea & Rooney which appeared to annoy him!

Grebbo
22-07-2013, 10:18 AM
If Wenger has spoken to Cesc as per last weeks reports, he thinks that Cesc will be available for transfer next summer.

However, Utd wouldn't be so public if they didn't expect to sign him.

Hopefully, Wenger knows on this one and will bring him back rather than letting him go to United.



Not sure, how what Moyes is saying and doing is any different to Chelsea & Rooney which appeared to annoy him!

Cesc is going to Man Utd, no doubt about it. They'll have spoken to his agent and if Cesc had told them he'd only join Arsenal if he must leave Barca then they wouldn't be bidding for him. Certainly not two bids.

I really don't know how I'm going to watch football next season. Two former Arsenal captains playing for Man Utd!! A disgrace.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 10:25 AM
Utd fans somehow got over it when Silvestre switched sides.

Marc Overmars
22-07-2013, 10:27 AM
Barca must be keeping us in the loop as well.

Come on Wenget.

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 10:30 AM
Good luck to Moyes.

GP
22-07-2013, 10:33 AM
To me it just seems like it's all being made so public so when he doesn't go there he can at least say 'Well, I tried my best'

LDG
22-07-2013, 10:35 AM
http://news.arseblog.com/2013/07/report-bernard-due-for-arsenal-medical-on-friday/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook


:popcorn:

Grebbo
22-07-2013, 10:36 AM
Barca must be keeping us in the loop as well.

Come on Wenget.

Whatever Wenger does is irrelevant if Cesc wants to join Man Utd.

Munchies
22-07-2013, 10:39 AM
Is Wenger really going to let Cesc , a player we developed for nearly a decade to help United get the title ?

£24m was enough for RVC , and if Cesc goes to United we'll get 50% of any fee.

Wenger :rose:

War chest building up :bow:

Grebbo
22-07-2013, 10:42 AM
Is Wenger really going to let Cesc , a player we developed for nearly a decade to help United get the title ?

£24m was enough for RVC , and if Cesc goes to United we'll get 50% of any fee.

Wenger :rose:

War chest building up :bow:

1. How can Wenger stop Cesc from joining Man Utd?
2. I cannot believe we'll get 50% of the fee. 50% of the profit is far more likely. So about £2.5m. Yay!

Dicks and chicks
22-07-2013, 10:43 AM
Utd fans somehow got over it when Silvestre switched sides.

LOOOOOOOOOL

Dicks and chicks
22-07-2013, 10:44 AM
Is Wenger really going to let Cesc , a player we developed for nearly a decade to help United get the title ?

£24m was enough for RVC , and if Cesc goes to United we'll get 50% of any fee.

Wenger :rose:

War chest building up :bow:

is this true or are you making stuff up because you're a troll?

Letters
22-07-2013, 10:45 AM
War chest building up :bow:
New yacht chest, more like <_<

Munchies
22-07-2013, 10:47 AM
Re the 50% fee, I read its from any sale and is in the contract

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 10:47 AM
1. How can Wenger stop Cesc from joining Man Utd?
2. I cannot believe we'll get 50% of the fee. 50% of the profit is far more likely. So about £2.5m. Yay!

1 - he can't. Don't understand why people keep saying that. Cesc is a Barcelona player. Man Utd want him. Fuck all to do with Wenger.

2 - we'll get some money for sure but it'll go in wengers pockets

Fist of Lehmann
22-07-2013, 10:53 AM
http://news.arseblog.com/2013/07/report-bernard-due-for-arsenal-medical-on-friday/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook


:popcorn:

Looks like we'll be needing that thread after all Maccy.

Grebbo
22-07-2013, 10:59 AM
Re the 50% fee, I read its from any sale and is in the contract

So Barca will have to sell Cesc for £60m just to break even?

Nah

Munchies
22-07-2013, 11:06 AM
So Barca will have to sell Cesc for £60m just to break even?

Nah

Essentially




If Arsenal were to refuse that option, they would still be entitled to half of Fabregas’s next transfer fee.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8703312/Arsenals-sense-of-loss-from-Cesc-Fabregas-departure-softened-by-clauses-in-his-Barcelona-contract.html

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:07 AM
Didn't Barca boast about Cesc's buyout clause being some ludicrously high figure? Was that just BS then? Also, if they sell for £26 they don't make any profit - they make a loss. So we get nothing. It will be infuriating watching the board and the manager sitting on their hands as another one of the captains we developed heads to a rival to open up the gap in quality even wider.

Only consolation is we have Sanogo.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:11 AM
Essentially

I can't see any club agreeing to those terms. As incredible as it may seem, the media may have got it wrong. And there's that Euro200mill buyout, if true then Utd can't force the transfer by unsettling the player (Barca's favourite tactic). Cesc will have to want to go. To Utd! There's a possibility Arsenal fans would view that in a dim light.

selassie
22-07-2013, 11:14 AM
Cesc is going to Man Utd, no doubt about it. They'll have spoken to his agent and if Cesc had told them he'd only join Arsenal if he must leave Barca then they wouldn't be bidding for him. Certainly not two bids.

I really don't know how I'm going to watch football next season. Two former Arsenal captains playing for Man Utd!! A disgrace.

Yep, unfortunately I agree with this.

Thierrymon
22-07-2013, 11:25 AM
It would be a really bad move to let cesc go to united (thats if we have any say in the matter). He is world class and is the sort of player united really need.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:29 AM
It would be a really bad move to let cesc go to united (thats if we have any say in the matter). He is world class and is the sort of player united really need.

Yep. They needed a remedy to Berbatov, we stepped up. Now they need a replacement for Scholes. We can help again. If he's moving and we don't step in it places all that "want him to stay" chatter in context.

Grebbo
22-07-2013, 11:37 AM
I can't see any club agreeing to those terms. As incredible as it may seem, the media may have got it wrong. And there's that Euro200mill buyout, if true then Utd can't force the transfer by unsettling the player (Barca's favourite tactic). Cesc will have to want to go. To Utd! There's a possibility Arsenal fans would view that in a dim light.

I think those buyout clauses only apply to Spanish clubs.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:53 AM
Anti Real Madrid clause?

McNamara That Ghost...
22-07-2013, 12:11 PM
I think those buyout clauses only apply to Spanish clubs.

Nah they apply to all.

Dennis Bendtner
22-07-2013, 01:06 PM
This Bernard story is interesting. Be good to be signing the best young players out there

Injury Time
22-07-2013, 01:27 PM
This Bernard story is interesting. Be good to be signing the best young players out there

Best to not think as signing the best young players out there, think more giving them experience for the bigger clubs :good: :ilt:

McNamara That Ghost...
22-07-2013, 01:35 PM
Wenger on Bernard's supposed medical, according to Yahoo/Eurosport:


That report is not true..

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-reports-bernard-arsenal-medical-friday-105005977.html

GP
22-07-2013, 01:36 PM
It's on!

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 02:07 PM
Arsenal and Fulham are eyeing American goalkeeper Jeff Caldwell.
The 17-year-old will train with both London clubs in the coming weeks after finishing a trial with Brentford.
Caldwell is currently playing for North Carolina Fusion in the US but is hoping to secure a move to England after a number of clubs expressed an interest in him.
The youngster is highly rated in the States and is first choice for the Under-17s national team.


Read more: http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130722/arsenal-and-fulham-eyeing-american-youngster-202161#ixzz2ZmcoQseq
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Read more at http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130722/arsenal-and-fulham-eyeing-american-youngster-202161#A5r2oMxdeadhxbVw.99

Yay

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 02:23 PM
Wenger on Bernard's supposed medical, according to Yahoo/Eurosport:

.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-reports-bernard-arsenal-medical-friday-105005977.html

Finally Wenger says we are not interested in somebody. About fucking time too!

When is the medical?

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 02:24 PM
7pm

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 02:24 PM
Yay

We need another nobody keeper desperately. Just a shame we aren't looking in the lower French leagues.

Master Splinter
22-07-2013, 02:25 PM
It's on!

Pretty much.

"I do not know Bernard."

LDG
22-07-2013, 02:27 PM
http://lovetransmissions.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/off-the-air2.gif

Marc Overmars
22-07-2013, 02:29 PM
Bernard's Watch was a good show.

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 02:30 PM
An unknown Brazilian

Yay

Master Splinter
22-07-2013, 02:35 PM
A well thought-out, highly original, worthwhile post.

Yay.

Shaqiri Is Boss
22-07-2013, 02:40 PM
He looked decent at the Confed Cup for the 27 seconds he played.

For some reason we were linked to him a few weeks back.

I also liked Bernard's Watch.

GP
22-07-2013, 02:42 PM
I've never heard of Bernard's Watch.

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 02:44 PM
A well thought-out, highly original, worthwhile post.

Yay.
Could be worse. I could post like you.

Özim
22-07-2013, 02:45 PM
http://lovetransmissions.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/off-the-air2.gif
I concur

Özim
22-07-2013, 02:47 PM
Could be worse. I could post like you.
Do you mean by pretending to talk like Wenger all the time and giving every single Arsenal player mentioned some made up name?

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 02:49 PM
Do you mean by pretending to talk like Wenger all the time and giving every single Arsenal player mentioned some made up name?

Pretty much.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 02:55 PM
Reported :coffee:

GP
22-07-2013, 02:58 PM
Deported :coffee:

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-07-2013, 03:39 PM
He looked decent at the Confed Cup for the 27 seconds he played.

For some reason we were linked to him a few weeks back.

I also liked Bernard's Watch.

I despised it, it taught children that it's ok to be irresponsible and frivalous when dabbling with temporal forces.

Fist of Lehmann
22-07-2013, 03:45 PM
Do you mean by pretending to talk like Wenger all the time and giving every single Arsenal player mentioned some made up name?

Like Winnebago for instance?

Özim
22-07-2013, 03:51 PM
Like Winnebago for instance?
Exactly.

LDG
22-07-2013, 03:53 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwpt7fFETv1qfnynm.jpg

AKBapologist
22-07-2013, 04:03 PM
It's on!
smoke screen detected

Fist of Lehmann
22-07-2013, 04:06 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwpt7fFETv1qfnynm.jpg

Dear god Fabregas what have they done to you?

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-07-2013, 04:12 PM
smoke screen detected

Wenger isn't some kind of half man, half octopus creature confounding us to his true intentions with an underwater ink dispersal....and more's to the point considering i imagine he has a dartboard at home with Bernard Tapie's face on it...i doubt he would spend any money bringing in someone of the same name.

Let's just face it the money is there and i am sure the board and shareholders have no problem with it being spent (as the likely dividends for them are going to come from us winning trophies) it's just Wenger is hand wringing over spending vast quantities because i don't think he has as much confidence in his abilities as he once did and knows he won't have the "i've spent fuck all" excuse to fall back on, the club are simply awful at transfer negotiations and last of all the clubs aren't selling unless the mega rich clubs are offering them obscene amounts for their players.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 04:25 PM
Players hold all the power now. Clubs have to sell if their hand is forced. Trouble with us is we are looking for a fair price in the 1990's stupid property market or the 1920's Wall Street set up. We're right, the prices are crazy, it's not sustainable, it will absolutely, definitely, without a shadow of doubt collapse. But try telling that to property buyers in the 90s, try telling it to stock buyers in the 20s. It would be okay (well not really) if we were crusaders based on principle. But we aren't. It's a happy situation for the board. Don't spend and get spanked on the pitch - commercial inertia still keeps the profits rolling in. Do spend, more fans turn up, more shirts are sold, commercial wins out again. The sport doesn't really come into it and that's the problem. Our board doesn't need to buy respectability like a dirty Russian criminal or a dirt Arab thief (I'm calling it like it is so don't even start), our lot are "respectable" so they can get on and make their money by a variety of methods. They are already in the club (in more ways than one).

Football has been invaded and the fans keep looking in the wrong places for the reasons why it has all turned to shit.

AKBapologist
22-07-2013, 04:29 PM
Nah, it's gone beyond shear opportunity cost analysis of spending or not spending. We don't even have quantity let alone quality - the shear nakedness of negligence would be enough to frighten anyone into doing something, although a last minute trolley dash for bargain basement crap seems more likely.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-07-2013, 04:35 PM
It depends how long the player has on his contract, someone like Suarez who i believe is contracted to Anfield until 2016...Liverpool quite correctly say they don't have to sell him. Unless Suarez refuses to play for Liverpool which a) in going over to Australia he doesn't appear to show a willingness to do and b) Would probably make a club less eager to want to sign him and would be a risky gamble that could jeprodise his future.
Higuain I think the club are moving the goalposts because they are hedging their bets, they don't want to sell him unless they are guaranteed they can replace him, and two of their targets Cavani and Jovetic have already gone to other clubs....and it's fair to say they don't have the same valuation of Suarez that even we do.

fakeyank
22-07-2013, 04:51 PM
When are we going to sign someone half decent? Someone like Milner will also do tbf.. :(

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 04:52 PM
When are we going to sign someone half decent? Someone like Milner will also do tbf.. :(

Getting Barry tbh

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 04:53 PM
Nah, it's gone beyond shear opportunity cost analysis of spending or not spending. We don't even have quantity let alone quality - the shear nakedness of negligence would be enough to frighten anyone into doing something, although a last minute trolley dash for bargain basement crap seems more likely.

Your squad analysis certainly exposed the asset stripping in stark black and white. There's no way anyone with an interest in football allows that to happen. Okay so people with money rule the world, nothing new there. I just hate the way they position themselves as men of principle when they are in fact nothing more than grubby thieves. The chavs and city are the best thing that ever happened for these bastards, it gives them their wafer thin excuse.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 04:55 PM
It depends how long the player has on his contract, someone like Suarez who i believe is contracted to Anfield until 2016...Liverpool quite correctly say they don't have to sell him. Unless Suarez refuses to play for Liverpool which a) in going over to Australia he doesn't appear to show a willingness to do and b) Would probably make a club less eager to want to sign him and would be a risky gamble that could jeprodise his future.
Higuain I think the club are moving the goalposts because they are hedging their bets, they don't want to sell him unless they are guaranteed they can replace him, and two of their targets Cavani and Jovetic have already gone to other clubs....and it's fair to say they don't have the same valuation of Suarez that even we do.

Aren't new contracts just a way for the club to get a better deal when the player decides to leave anyway. His kickback for jumping ship?

Dicks and chicks
22-07-2013, 04:55 PM
jackson martinez,fellani and suarez and ill be a happy man

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 04:57 PM
jackson martinez,fellani and suarez and ill be a happy man

Prepare to be sad. One transfer max. If they were serious about strengthening the squad it would have all been done by the Asian tour.