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Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 07:54 PM
Small bit of info I didn't know, from Arseblog:
So all we need to do is sign Suarez, Rooney, Benzema, Ozil and DiMaria on Monday. We have the entire day to get this done. What could go wrong?
Do not forget we have also Ciprian Marica ready to sign. You will be surprised how many players are calling me personally asking to sign. I will tell you how many one day.
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2013, 07:57 PM
9000th post.
Congratulations MS.
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 08:01 PM
Steve French's post was the 9000th.
Fucking devastated.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:02 PM
Steve French's post was the 9000th.
Fucking devastated.
:pal:
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:03 PM
If you take the total number of posts in this thread and divide by the amount of money Wenger has spent in the transfer window you get INFINITY!
And still people aren't happy!
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 08:05 PM
oliver kay (times) Tottenham confirm the signing of Christian Eriksen from Ajax.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:06 PM
He's better than all our CMs bar maybe Cazorla.
Marc Overmars
30-08-2013, 08:06 PM
Yep Spufs have got him.
MO (the real one) for not stopping Ajax from letting him go. :doh:
Shaqiri Is Boss
30-08-2013, 08:07 PM
I wish Spurs would stop buying good players.
It's not good for those of us who aren't...
They risk potentially finishing above you one day.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:08 PM
I wish Spurs would stop buying good players.
It's not good for those of us who aren't...
Your lot are getting Sakho.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:08 PM
Yep Spufs have got him.
MO (the real one) for not stopping Ajax from letting him go. :doh:
You're not the real MO? You look exactly like him tbf.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:10 PM
oliver kay (times) Tottenham confirm the signing of Christian Eriksen from Ajax.
They had to respond to us signing Flamini. But I believe they will be unbalanced, or is it I believe I'm unbalanced, or unhinged?
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2013, 08:10 PM
Even if he doesn't fit Wenger's arbitrary definition of super quality he's surely worth a punt at that price just to have as a quality squad player. With Moe working the strings at Ajax we could have gazumped the scum here.
Marc Overmars
30-08-2013, 08:12 PM
Even if he doesn't fit Wenger's arbitrary definition of super quality he's surely worth a punt at that price just to have as a quality squad player. With Moe working the strings at Ajax we could have gazumped the scum here.
He's no Park Chu Young that's for sure.
Shaqiri Is Boss
30-08-2013, 08:13 PM
Your lot are getting Sakho.
Really? I've stopped looking at transfer news for my own sanity.
Good. He's built like a barn door. We need someone like that.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:14 PM
The first thing the player asks is are you in the Champion's League? Every one of them without exception.
Then they ask, are you Arsenal?
This proves they are not top, top, top quality.
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2013, 08:15 PM
He's no Park Chu Young that's for sure.
Buying him would kill Ryo Miyachi and Sarge Gnarby. :coffee:
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:15 PM
Really? I've stopped looking at transfer news for my own sanity.
Good. He's built like a barn door. We need someone like that.
Liverpool hope to complete the signings of defenders Mamadou Sakho from Paris St-Germain and Sporting Lisbon's Tiago Ilori in the next 48 hours.
The Anfield side are in talks with both clubs and hope to reach an agreement on the respective deals over the weekend.
Sakho, 23, who can play in central defence or on the left, has 14 France caps and is likely to cost £13m.
Both Sakho and Ilori, who is 20, are expected on Merseyside for medicals and further talks in the next 24 hours.
Some pub teamer as well
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 08:16 PM
Buying him would kill Ryo Miyachi and Sarge Gnarby. :coffee:
Ryo and Sarge don't play in his position tbf.
Marc Overmars
30-08-2013, 08:17 PM
Sakho is the new Thuram.
The one player I would mind Wenget raiding Ligue 1 for and we're not interested.
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 08:17 PM
Have Spurs bought more players than RPQ yet?
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:18 PM
Ryo and Sarge don't play in his position tbf.
Have you forgotten who our manager is?
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2013, 08:19 PM
Ryo and Sarge don't play in his position tbf.
With Wenger's history of shovelling AM's out wide he would here.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:19 PM
Shame, Sakho was overvalued by £13mill or we could have signed him.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:21 PM
Shame, Sakho was overvalued by £13mill or we could have signed him.
Not necessarily.
Kondogbia was on a free and we were interested.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:23 PM
Not necessarily.
Kondogbia was on a free and we were interested.
He had quantity but not top, top, top quality.
Munchies
30-08-2013, 08:24 PM
Ffs , Eriksen is class
Ollie the Optimist
30-08-2013, 08:25 PM
i saw some newspaper articles last night about how the board were worried that we wouldnt actually sign anyone. (think the mirror had it as main story) and it leaves me wondering, why the board arent actually doing anything baout it? they went above wenger and sold nasri, so why cant they do it the other way round and add an extra 10 million to a bid without wengers say so?
im not excusing wenger, as i think this summer has shown that he sadly needs to leave this club now, but the board release these stories taht they are worried, yet dont do anything about it?
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:26 PM
So what will everyone be doing on Monday? Any plans, seeing as we have a free day?
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 08:27 PM
i saw some newspaper articles last night about how the board were worried that we wouldnt actually sign anyone. (think the mirror had it as main story) and it leaves me wondering, why the board arent actually doing anything baout it? they went above wenger and sold nasri, so why cant they do it the other way round and add an extra 10 million to a bid without wengers say so?
im not excusing wenger, as i think this summer has shown that he sadly needs to leave this club now, but the board release these stories taht they are worried, yet dont do anything about it?
They've left it a bit late to be worried. I feel a bit sorry for them, they only made £25mill this window.
Munchies
30-08-2013, 08:27 PM
i saw some newspaper articles last night about how the board were worried that we wouldnt actually sign anyone. (think the mirror had it as main story) and it leaves me wondering, why the board arent actually doing anything baout it? they went above wenger and sold nasri, so why cant they do it the other way round and add an extra 10 million to a bid without wengers say so?
im not excusing wenger, as i think this summer has shown that he sadly needs to leave this club now, but the board release these stories taht they are worried, yet dont do anything about it?
Coz they all take a cut of what's left in the chest :doh:
Marc Overmars
30-08-2013, 08:29 PM
So what will everyone be doing on Monday? Any plans, seeing as we have a free day?
Watching Jim White go mental. Best comedy night of the year tbh.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:31 PM
So what will everyone be doing on Monday? Any plans, seeing as we have a free day?
Watching a DVD.
Xhaka Can’t
30-08-2013, 08:36 PM
Season review?
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:37 PM
Yes of the 14/15 season if Wenger stays
Munchies
30-08-2013, 08:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS8Q0qHCQAA4DJy.jpg
How are they doing it :(
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 08:51 PM
Their board and manager are awesome.
They have made 3 signings today.
Keep the faith.
We'll do the same on Monday.
Benzema, Ozils and Di Maria are coming home.
Ollie the Optimist
30-08-2013, 08:53 PM
because they have 100 million from bale and reinvest it. :good:
the only thing that ill say is that like QPR last year, signing a ton of players in a short time can cause problems. it can go two years, really badly wrong, or they win the league etc. its hard to say right now, first two games only won because of penalties. would i have taken the players they have signed at the begining of the summer? no. would i now? of course.
i have a feeling that they will get this right, but if it goes wrong, it ruins them for a long time. so much money spent, and if they fail to get CL thats them done for. they wont have a bale to sell for world record fees to cover their spending. and they want a new stadium. they've done the go big or go home method, i think it will pay off for them sadly, but if they fail for top four this year, they are fucked.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS8Nm0qIAAEHqfz.png
Munchies
30-08-2013, 08:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS8Nm0qIAAEHqfz.png
He knows it :haha:
He's coming home :bow:
Gooney :bow:
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 09:01 PM
Can this summer get any worse?
Yes, if Cesc comes back.
Ollie the Optimist
30-08-2013, 09:02 PM
yeah id fucking hate it too if we signed a world class midfielder. how shit would that be?
grow up
yeah id fucking hate it too if we signed a world class midfielder. how shit would that be?
grow up
Exactly right.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 09:03 PM
World class? :haha:
You haven't seem him at all have you since he's left.
Can't have.
He doesn't play in midfield.
Munchies
30-08-2013, 09:03 PM
I really do think Cesc is comign back
It'd slightly make up for the shitstorm we've had.
Cesc/Ozil/Benzema
Marc Overmars
30-08-2013, 09:04 PM
What glory days?
What glory days?
The day he signed his contract was pretty glorious.
For him.
Munchies
30-08-2013, 09:05 PM
Is that Walcott account real ? Doesn't seem right
KSE Comedy Club
30-08-2013, 09:20 PM
Is that Walcott account real ? Doesn't seem right
Well on twitter it's been said that it is as it has been validated by oxo chambermaid.
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 09:21 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2407399/Salomon-Kalou-talks-Arsenal-Nicklas-Bendtner-interests-Crystal-Palace.html
Super super quality
:doh:
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 09:32 PM
So it can actually get worse. Where's the low point for this summer? We're still digging furiously.
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 09:34 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS8lFx9CIAA2bOY.jpg
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 09:34 PM
Draxler is good.
Time he came home
Munchies
30-08-2013, 09:39 PM
Should of got Eriksen ffs
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 09:42 PM
Should of got Eriksen ffs
Cost too much.
Plus it would kill unknown kids
Munchies
30-08-2013, 09:45 PM
Arsenal have held talks with Lille over a move for Salomon Kalou as they prepare to let Nicklas Bendtner join Crystal Palace. (Daily Mail)
:doh:
Arsenal are targeting at least 2 major signings, with Draxler and Kaka having joined their list of targets (Telegraph)
Ivan Gazidis spent today at Colney trying to close a deal with Schalke for Julian Draxler. (John Cross of The Mirror)
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 09:46 PM
:haha:
Arsenal have held talks with Lille over a move for Salomon Kalou as they prepare to let Nicklas Bendtner join Crystal Palace. (Daily Mail)
:doh:
I know, need to keep hold of him.
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 09:51 PM
If Kalou actually joins Arsenal, it would be the first instance of newspaper transfer muppetry becoming reality.
The Emirates Gallactico
30-08-2013, 09:55 PM
I will actually kill someone if Kalou is the only further signing we make.
We are definitely not signing Kalou.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 09:57 PM
I will actually kill someone if Kalou is the only further signing we make.
Is he free?
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 09:57 PM
£40mill for a 19 year old? Really?
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 09:59 PM
£40mill for a 19 year old? Really?
When he's that damn good then yes.
Better than all of our midfielders
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 10:00 PM
£40mill for a 19 year old? Really?
He's definitely super quality.
Who cares about the money?
His Wikipedia page already says he plays for Arsenal.
It's on!
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 10:04 PM
When he's that damn good then yes.
Better than all of our midfielders
FFS, £40mill for a 19 year old CAM?
Striker... Maybe, if he had the record to go with it, but it just seems like a colossal waste of time given what our priorities will be.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 10:06 PM
As someone mentioned above, money doesn't matter. This guy is the real deal already
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 10:07 PM
As someone mentioned above, money doesn't matter. This guy is the real deal already
Real deal already? Show me the stats to back that up?
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 10:07 PM
Draxler? What a waste of time. We don't need reinforcements for the tippy tap brigade, we need a fucking striker who is not called Kalou or Bendtner.
Wenger can do one, can't he. Off a bridge.
http://i.imgur.com/UdcGR7G.jpg
KSE Comedy Club
30-08-2013, 10:08 PM
Not what we need, IMO.
So that's gonna be Ozil, draxler, di Maria, Rooney, Cesc, kaka and kalou all signed on Monday.
Busy day for us and most of that £180m gone.
Wow!
:coffee:
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 10:12 PM
As someone mentioned above, money doesn't matter. This guy is the real deal already
Am I getting the 'don't mention your internet enemy's name specifically' treatment now too?
:(
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 10:13 PM
This is the early stage of the mental deadline period I guess. Every player in the world will be connected to every club in the world over the next few hours. Some may even be connected to us, for a laugh.
McNamara That Ghost...
30-08-2013, 10:16 PM
£40mill for a 19 year old? Really?
He's probably worth it. He's brilliant.
Ollie the Optimist
30-08-2013, 10:17 PM
if we went to barca and gave them 40-50 million we would get Cesc back and hes a better option then Draxler
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 10:19 PM
He's probably worth it. He's brilliant.
What do we need him for? So he can set up Giroud to miss?
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 10:20 PM
Am I getting the 'don't mention your internet enemy's name specifically' treatment now too?
:(
You post far too much in threads I'm involved in to ignore you tbh.
Yes you know little about most of them but you're harmless enough. Kinda annoying when you go in lick tards ass mode but bigger posters than you do that so can't blame you tbh
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 10:20 PM
if we went to barca and gave them 40-50 million we would get Cesc back and hes a better option then Draxler
:lol:
Oh you're serious.
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 10:23 PM
You post far too much in threads I'm involved in to ignore you tbh.
Yes you know little about most of them but you're harmless enough. Kinda annoying when you go in lick tards ass mode but bigger posters than you do that so can't blame you tbh
Yay!
Munchies
30-08-2013, 10:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taiV8oQaRvY
£40m , who cares, just spend some fucking money
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 10:25 PM
if we went to barca and gave them 40-50 million we would get Cesc back and hes a better option then Draxler
Nah.
Cisc is past it now.
Draxler is six years younger and potentially twice as good.
Plus we'll get £80m + for him in a few years.
McNamara That Ghost...
30-08-2013, 10:25 PM
What do we need him for? So he can set up Giroud to miss?
I don't understand, you spend all day lamenting Spuds buying players, you complain about quality being drained, Draxler has it by a bundle and he can score too (13 for Schake last season which is better than any of our forward players that wouldn't be classed as strikers).
The fact he isn't a striker per se should be neither here nor there.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 10:27 PM
Nah.
Cisc is past it now.
Draxler is six years younger and potentially twice as good.
Plus we'll get £80m + for him in a few years.
Already is better than Cesc ever was IMO.
And I loved that cunt back before he turned in to a...well a cunt
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 10:35 PM
I don't understand, you spend all day lamenting Spuds buying players, you complain about quality being drained, Draxler has it by a bundle and he can score too (13 for Schake last season which is better than any of our forward players that wouldn't be classed as strikers).
The fact he isn't a striker per se should be neither here nor there.
Given that he provided just a little bit more than fuck all assists that season I suppose that's just as well
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 10:39 PM
I don't understand, you spend all day lamenting Spuds buying players, you complain about quality being drained, Draxler has it by a bundle and he can score too (13 for Schake last season which is better than any of our forward players that wouldn't be classed as strikers).
The fact he isn't a striker per se should be neither here nor there.
I want us to be competitive. We supposedly have £70mill to spend. We know where we need the players, another AM isn't what we need. So blowing £40mill and risking this being our only signing makes no sense. We couldn't win anything with RvP in the team FFS, so we need more than one quality player. Okay, if that's all we get then fine I'm not going to say no, but we won't be in a position to win anything with that one addition.
McNamara That Ghost...
30-08-2013, 10:41 PM
Given that he provided just a little bit more than fuck all assists that season I suppose that's just as well
Like Eriksen perhaps?
Master Splinter
30-08-2013, 10:44 PM
The Kalou thing was another Twitter wind-up which made it into several newspapers in a matter of hours.
McNamara That Ghost...
30-08-2013, 10:48 PM
I want us to be competitive. We supposedly have £70mill to spend. We know where we need the players, another AM isn't what we need. So blowing £40mill and risking this being our only signing makes no sense. We couldn't win anything with RvP in the team FFS, so we need more than one quality player. Okay, if that's all we get then fine I'm not going to say no, but we won't be in a position to win anything with that one addition.
I think we probably have more than that. Better quality is what we need, regardless of what position it may overload us in or not. Blowing £40 million you say, well what are we going to do with that particular figure that is going to put us in a position to win anything? If it's the Real Madrid players then I concur but it'll take more than that anyway!
We didn't win anything with RVP sure but we had him for the whole season, once. I'm not whining about that but it's true and we don't have a weaker midfield than we did then, I think anyway.
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 10:58 PM
I think we probably have more than that. Better quality is what we need, regardless of what position it may overload us in or not. Blowing £40 million you say, well what are we going to do with that particular figure that is going to put us in a position to win anything? If it's the Real Madrid players then I concur but it'll take more than that anyway!
We didn't win anything with RVP sure but we had him for the whole season, once. I'm not whining about that but it's true and we don't have a weaker midfield than we did then, I think anyway.
I agree, whatever the Bale fee is get a wheelbarrow and throw it at Madrid for their three cast-offs. We are dealing with one club for three players so we have a tiny chance of pulling it off rather than trying to negotiate with multiple clubs. All fantasy anyway but that's the only route I see left to bumping us up the level we need in the space of one day.
But Wenger has completely lost the plot so expect the craziest and worst outcome. I can't even imagine what he might pull out of his arse as the panic sets in on Monday.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 11:01 PM
Arsenal have added Schalke midfielder Julian Draxler, 19, and Real Madrid's 31-year-old forward Kaka, who wants to leave the Spanish club, to their transfer target list.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger believes the Gunners have a better squad than Tottenham and does not rule out bringing striker Nicklas Bendtner, 25, back to the club.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Get both
Is he serious?
Munchies
30-08-2013, 11:06 PM
Same shit different day again.
This thread goes up by loads of pages in the vain hope that we'll sign someone, and all we've had yesterday now was loads of Wenger BS as usual.
Munchies
30-08-2013, 11:09 PM
@WayneGooney18
Heard twice now that Draxler to AFC is agreed. Fee between £35m and £38m.
Could be why KPB went Shalke today ?
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 11:19 PM
@WayneGooney18
Heard twice now that Draxler to AFC is agreed. Fee between £35m and £38m.
Could be why KPB went Shalke today ?
Fuck, WayneCooty says it's a done deal so there won't even have been contact, the thought won't have crossed Wenger's mind. We need to get a list of this asshole's predictions and find out who he hasn't mentioned, that'll be who we are signing.
Munchies
30-08-2013, 11:21 PM
Fuck, WayneCooty says it's a done deal so there won't even have been contact, the thought won't have crossed Wenger's mind. We need to get a list of this asshole's predictions and find out who he hasn't mentioned, that'll be who we are signing.
:lol:
He and Geoff are all we got :bow:
Edinburgh Gooner
30-08-2013, 11:22 PM
@WayneGooney18
Heard twice now that Draxler to AFC is agreed. Fee between £35m and £38m.
Could be why KPB went Shalke today ?
Who the fuck is this wayne gooney character? I'll believe it when i see it on arse.com.
Munchies
30-08-2013, 11:23 PM
Who the fuck is this wayne gooney character? I'll believe it when i see it on arse.com.
The fella who's provided 90% of transfer links for us :lol: . All BS so far, but he might pull off a coup as he says Cesc/Draxler are nailed on so far. (Yeah right :haha: )
Edinburgh Gooner
30-08-2013, 11:31 PM
The fella who's provided 90% of transfer links for us :lol: . All BS so far, but he might pull off a coup as he says Cesc/Draxler are nailed on so far. (Yeah right :haha: )
Aye, i've noticed throughout this thread the bullshit he has been coming out with and the fact he is convinced that cesc is coming back. The tabloids seem to have been taking his every word apart from the cesc thing though lol
Munchies
30-08-2013, 11:33 PM
Aye, i've noticed throughout this thread the bullshit he has been coming out with and the fact he is convinced that cesc is coming back. The tabloids seem to have been taking his every word apart from the cesc thing though lol
I don't really know really, it's just incredibly frustrating the way the summer has gone for our club, I'm still optimistic that we can pull off some signings , but the later its getting, the more I'm starting to think we're getting no one. It appears that we're waiting until after the derby game, but that leaves roughly 30 hours to get all the deals done. We've had 2 months to make one meaningful signing, 30 hours to get 4-5 ? :getcoat:
AKBapologist
30-08-2013, 11:40 PM
Like Eriksen perhaps?
Who doesn't cost £40mill and isn't 19.
Cripps_orig
30-08-2013, 11:42 PM
We have the money
Edinburgh Gooner
30-08-2013, 11:44 PM
I don't really know really, it's just incredibly frustrating the way the summer has gone for our club, I'm still optimistic that we can pull off some signings , but the later its getting, the more I'm starting to think we're getting no one. It appears that we're waiting until after the derby game, but that leaves roughly 30 hours to get all the deals done. We've had 2 months to make one meaningful signing, 30 hours to get 4-5 ? :getcoat:
It's a crazy situation that we are in just now. Holding out until after the spuds game could only be a master stroke if deals are already in place and the only waiting is for the bale deal to go through. But I highly doubt that is the case as having new players in during pre season gives them the chance to bond with the rest of the squad and find thier feet. Now we have to hope any signings we do make hit the ground running. The biggest mistake of the close season was Gazidis coming out and blabbing about how much money we have. That just gave selling clubs the chance to bump the prices up and given Wenger the age old excuse that the market is inflated.
KSE Comedy Club
30-08-2013, 11:46 PM
£35m-£38m ?!?!?
Is he really worth that much?
Niall_Quinn
30-08-2013, 11:50 PM
£35m-£38m ?!?!?
Is he really worth that much?
Better than that bastard Kroenke having it. I'd rather burn it than let him have it.
KSE Comedy Club
30-08-2013, 11:57 PM
Better than that bastard Kroenke having it. I'd rather burn it than let him have it.
Hard to argue with that tbh.
KSE Comedy Club
30-08-2013, 11:59 PM
Apparently sky sports news have reported that Chelsea won't make another bid for Rooney.
So if he wants out its us or a club that's hasnt been linked yet.
McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2013, 12:01 AM
Who doesn't cost £40mill and isn't 19.
£40 million doesn't really matter if you have it there that can be spent, or with how much we're earning anyway. If it's who he wants, then just do it, I don't care anymore how much we're spending on it.
Half of that money can be made back in the future if it turns out to be a bust.
Cripps_orig
31-08-2013, 12:02 AM
So basically the club that hasn't been linked yet
The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2013, 12:19 AM
I'm with Maccy on this one. I don't give a fuck if he's 40 million or 60 million, we have he money so let's spend it to get our target instead of letting it rot in the bank. Have some faith in our scouting system for a change.
I agree, whatever the Bale fee is get a wheelbarrow and throw it at Madrid for their three cast-offs. We are dealing with one club for three players so we have a tiny chance of pulling it off rather than trying to negotiate with multiple clubs. All fantasy anyway but that's the only route I see left to bumping us up the level we need in the space of one day.
Yes but all those players in the one club have already all stated basically that they don't want to come here - they'd much rather rot on the bench at RM than get game time here which says it all about our attractiveness at the moment.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
31-08-2013, 12:34 AM
who the fuck is dexter? Never heard of him
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 01:11 AM
I'm with Maccy on this one. I don't give a fuck if he's 40 million or 60 million, we have he money so let's spend it to get our target instead of letting it rot in the bank. Have some faith in our scouting system for a change.
Yes but all those players in the one club have already all stated basically that they don't want to come here - they'd much rather rot on the bench at RM than get game time here which says it all about our attractiveness at the moment.
That could change fast if Bale and Suarez pitch up. World Cup year, they won't want to be on the bench for any significant part of the season and Arsenal are a bigger team than Madrid. The last bit is incorrect, what I meant to say was we've become a ridiculous small time joke of a club. Plus we aren't getting anyone are we? Except Bendtner. It sucks. They have ruined my life.
So my point stands.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 01:27 AM
Arsenal fear Wenger will spend NOTHING on transfers this summer
Gunners have backed away from Cabaye and Guaita with four days left in the window - could freebies Sanogo and Flamini really be it?
Arsene Wenger HAS re-signed Mathieu Flamini - but now Arsenal fear their manager may end up not spending a single penny in transfer fees this summer.
Midfielder Flamini, a Gunner from 2004-08, was without a club after leaving AC Milan has been handed a three-year contract worth £30,000-a-week.
The 29-year-old becomes the north Londoners' second signing of the summer after rookie striker Yaya Sanogo, who also joined as a free agent.
But there is a very real concern now that those are the only two deals Arsenal will end up doing in the summer transfer window after missing out on a succession big-name targets.
That will infuriate fed-up fans and cause major frustration in the boardroom, because Wenger has had a £70m transfer kitty at his disposal.
Arsenal have still not given up on making a dramatic signing before the window shuts on Monday night and are still keeping close tabs on Real Madrid trio Karim Benzema, Angel Di Maria and Mesut Ozil, who all remain possibilities.
But they are understood to have dropped their interest in Newcastle midfielder Yohan Cabaye as they have refused to go anywhere near the Toon's £20m valuation.
That deal is dead in the water unless the Geordies do a dramatic U-turn.
Similarly, Arsenal have been scared off Valencia keeper Vicente Guaita after having a £6m bid turned down and following a heated row between Miroslav Ðukic, Valencia's manager, and Wenger when the Frenchman attempted to reverse the call charges one time too many during protracted negotiations.
They could also do with a replacement on the left flank after Lukas Podolski was ruled out for up to 10 weeks with a hamstring injury suffered in midweek against Fenerbahce.
Former Chelsea forward Salomon Kalou, now at Lille, and Manchester United's Nani are possibilities, but Mirror Sport understands no deal is particularly close.
It leaves Arsenal with the very real danger of not spending a penny which would cause a major fans' backlash - especially if they lose at home to big-spending rivals Tottenham in Sunday's North London derby.
Ironically, the Gunners are in line to face one of the summer targets they missed out on, Gonzalo Higuain, after being handed a nightmare Champions League group including his Napoli side, last season's beaten finalists Borussia Dortmund and Marseille.
But despite a growing injury list - as well as Podolski, Mikel Arteta, Thomas Vermaelen and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain are all out - Wenger seems reluctant to blow the dust off his cheque-book.
It is causing frustration, as chief executive Ivan Gazidis spoke of the club's "escalation of financial firepower" in June.
Wenger will be under massive pressure from the board and the fans to spend.
It is believed to be particularly keen on Ozil and Di Maria, but there is a growing feeling that he will end up doing nothing further.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfers-arsenal-fear-wenger-spend-2237040#ixzz2dVOb0URv
He won't spend money on anything, let alone players.
Edinburgh Gooner
31-08-2013, 01:34 AM
He won't spend money on anything, let alone players.
He seems quite happy to spend money on medical treatment on a bunch of crocks.
Draxler would be a very good buy.
German beast.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 07:52 AM
Draxler would be a very good buy.
German beast.
Beast....he's a tiny bit of a kid
milla
31-08-2013, 08:03 AM
Beast....he's a tiny bit of a kid
So are Gotze and Lamela. Draxler is 19 but he actually has over 100 games for Schalke first team. He is definitely as good if not better than the former two. The big plus is, he also has the physic to play in PL. Definitely an upgrade over Feo, Pod and AOC. :coffee:
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 08:14 AM
So are Gotze and Lamela. Draxler is 19 but he actually has over 100 games for Schalke first team. He is definitely as good if not better than the former two. The big plus is, he also has the physic to play in PL. Definitely an upgrade over Feo, Pod and AOC. :coffee:
To be fair i actually think he'd be a decent signing....i was merely taking issue with him being called a Beast.
Marc Overmars
31-08-2013, 08:16 AM
Don't recall seeing Draxler play but if 40m is what it's takes then so be it. We've pussy footed around all summer and are now in no position to bargain for players.
JonasTC
31-08-2013, 08:30 AM
Would love to have draxler here, the guy is real quality.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 08:33 AM
Don't recall seeing Draxler play but if 40m is what it's takes then so be it. We've pussy footed around all summer and are now in no position to bargain for players.
60million is what it will take, 40 million is what we will offer
Munchies
31-08-2013, 08:43 AM
Draxler had a release clause of £38m in his contract.
The deal is already completed now according to you know who ...
The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2013, 08:46 AM
Similarly, Arsenal have been scared off Valencia keeper Vicente Guaita after having a £6m bid turned down and following a heated row between Miroslav Ðukic, Valencia's manager, and Wenger when the Frenchman attempted to reverse the call charges one time too many during protracted negotiations.
:haha::haha:
This has surely got to be a wind up? Is Wenger, the man who earns 7.5 million a year, really that cheap? :lol:
Edit - Good work NQ. Managed to fool me for a second. :(
Draxler had a release clause of £38m in his contract.
The deal is already completed now according to you know who ...
Wayne Gooney? Must be true then. :coffee:
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 08:47 AM
Draxler had a release clause of £38m in his contract.
The deal is already completed now according to you know who ...
Which means we won't be signing him
Penguin
31-08-2013, 09:16 AM
Isn't Draxler another CAM? How many do we need?!
Power n Glory
31-08-2013, 09:20 AM
With long term injuries to Ox and Pod, we may have to play Cazorla on the left. We don't have enough creative players I this team. If anything happened to Cazorla, we'd be in serious trouble for the season.
Marc Overmars
31-08-2013, 09:22 AM
Well if he's an upgrade on what we have then quantity shouldn't come into it.
Right now I don't think we're even prioritising positions, we clearly have no strategy so I think it's just a case of buy whoever we can.
Power n Glory
31-08-2013, 09:32 AM
We're covered for central midfield and defensive midfield now. Defenders, creative players and strikers are what we need now. If Giroud picks up an injury we only have Sanago and Theo that can play there. That's very poor. If Theo gets injured or has to play upfront, who can play on the right wing? We're so light in numbers. It's patch up jobs all over the pitch. An injury to Giroud, Cazorla or Theo would put us in some serious trouble this season without quality back up players. We can't even afford to rotate them with this current squad.
Stick Gibbs on the wing, Bendtner up front, Flamini in defence.
Job done.
Seaman's Ponytail
31-08-2013, 09:50 AM
Draxler had a release clause of £38m in his contract.
The deal is already completed now according to you know who ...
Sounds about right, he signed a new deal in May with a 45 million euro release clause so 38 million pounds sounds about right. Obviously the talk of 60 mill is rubbish. Schalke signing KPB is the biggest sign this deal really is done. Julian's coming home
About time we signed someone with as a hard as fuck name like Julian.
Munchies
31-08-2013, 10:01 AM
Yeah the KPB deal pretty much is a replacement for him, he's coming home :bow:
Also another target (?) gone
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2406175/Toby-Alderweireld-sign-Atletico-Madrid.html
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 10:16 AM
Yeah the KPB deal pretty much is a replacement for him, he's coming home :bow:
Also another target (?) gone
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2406175/Toby-Alderweireld-sign-Atletico-Madrid.html
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sir_hugo_drax_by_michael_lonsdale_8827.jpg
He sounds like a Bond Villain
milla
31-08-2013, 10:33 AM
Sounds about right, he signed a new deal in May with a 45 million euro release clause so 38 million pounds sounds about right. Obviously the talk of 60 mill is rubbish. Schalke signing KPB is the biggest sign this deal really is done. Julian's coming home
KPB signing is not related IMO, completely two different players. :coffee:
Munchies
31-08-2013, 10:47 AM
Wenger on Benzema, Ozil & di Maria: "I don't know, it's not like a supermarket where if you buy two you get one free!"
:haha:
Wenger: "I was accused of buying non-English players. Now we have many, and you (media) push me to buy foreign players.
Wenger: "Chelsea's squad last season - you'd have said they'll compete for title, right? And they finished just 2pts ahead of us."
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 10:53 AM
Wenger on Benzema, Ozil & di Maria: "I don't know, it's not like a supermarket where if you buy two you get one free!"
:haha:
If he hadn't irritated me so much with his procrastination and agonising in the transfer market i'd say that was a great line....but he has infuriated me far too much to take amusement in what he says.
This summer proves that he has to go you can't just put in a director of football because the man sees nothing wrong with his approach he draws too much strength from his own certainties and a fresh direction is needed.
The board are greedy, weak and incompetent but for me all this has done is allowed Wenger to thrive unchallenged free to make the same mistakes over and over again.
When the transfer window closes whether we have signed or not i am going to be pacing for the next nine months hoping that he doesn't sign a new contract and just goes
milla
31-08-2013, 10:57 AM
[QUOTE=Munchies;319903]Wenger on Benzema, Ozil & di Maria: "I don't know, it's not like a supermarket where if you buy two you get one free!"
:haha:
Seriously, one of these fuckers on GW (or ArsenalMania) must be Wernger. :haha:
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 10:59 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/north-london-derby-arsne-wenger-wont-confront-reality-of-todays-prices-8792508.html
Your a manager that's all you are...it's not your job to "confront the reality of today's prices" that's for your bosses to do, a player's cost should be of no concern to you the only thing that should be of concern to you is whether you think he is good enough for the club that's it.....
McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2013, 10:59 AM
Wenger admitting we're buying two of Ozil, Benzema and Di Maria. :bow:
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 10:59 AM
[QUOTE=Munchies;319903]Wenger on Benzema, Ozil & di Maria: "I don't know, it's not like a supermarket where if you buy two you get one free!"
:haha:
Seriously, one of these fuckers on GW (or ArsenalMania) must be Wernger. :haha:
Who is Wernger?
AKBapologist
31-08-2013, 11:07 AM
@peirmorgan I'm told, very reliably, that Lamela wanted to go to Arsenal, not Spurs, but Wenger rejected him last week. #Afc
@honigstein
Finally some Draxler info. Release clause of €45m was only valid until end of June. Schalke would sell for crazy money, €50m-60m
His agent also the agent of Luiz Gustavo. Not sure they see Arsenal as next logical career move. Overall odds: 20%, at best
I think Draxler is superb. But still young and learning, needs to play every week and best as no10. Not what Arsenal need , IMO, for that €€
Ollie the Optimist
31-08-2013, 11:10 AM
piers morgan pretending to be an itk now?
so thats a phone hacking, lying, being a cunt of the highest order, and now pretending to be itk.
what a cunt
milla
31-08-2013, 11:12 AM
@honigstein is stupid fuck. Draxler is exactly at the same level Gotze, Hazard or Lamela. Wait for 1-2 more years, Schalke can easily fetch £40-50mil for him.
Oh, how on earth his release clause expired at the end of June when he just signed a new contract in Spring? Either Schalke management is stupid or Wumger is their advisor.:coffee:
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 11:15 AM
@peirmorgan I'm told, very reliably, that Lamela wanted to go to Arsenal, not Spurs, but Wenger rejected him last week. #Afc
@honigstein
Finally some Draxler info. Release clause of €45m was only valid until end of June. Schalke would sell for crazy money, €50m-60m
His agent also the agent of Luiz Gustavo. Not sure they see Arsenal as next logical career move. Overall odds: 20%, at best
I think Draxler is superb. But still young and learning, needs to play every week and best as no10. Not what Arsenal need , IMO, for that €€
What Morgan is saying is hardly a surprise it's a bit like me saying I'd rather have a rib eye steak than a burger....all of the players Spurs have signed would have come to us over them given the choice.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 11:18 AM
So not Draxler then? I'm sort of pleased because watching him play he looks just the sort Wenger would try to convert to the striker's role. Excellent player but already too big for us. As re Benezema, Ozil and maybe even Di Maria, depressingly. As each day passes I wonder more and more how we managed to land Cazorla. What terrible secret did we use to blackmail him into signing?
Anyway. Next!
AKBapologist
31-08-2013, 11:18 AM
victor moses to liverpool on loan
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 11:19 AM
victor moses to liverpool on loan
That was a good price, in our territory.
Marc Overmars
31-08-2013, 11:21 AM
So not Draxler then? I'm sort of pleased because watching him play he looks just the sort Wenger would try to convert to the striker's role. Excellent player but already too big for us. As re Benezema, Ozil and maybe even Di Maria, depressingly. As each day passes I wonder more and more how we managed to land Cazorla. What terrible secret did we use to blackmail him into signing?
Anyway. Next!
Only got Cazorla because of Malaga's financial situation. No chance we would have spent big on him otherwise.
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 11:22 AM
So not Draxler then? I'm sort of pleased because watching him play he looks just the sort Wenger would try to convert to the striker's role. Excellent player but already too big for us. As re Benezema, Ozil and maybe even Di Maria, depressingly. As each day passes I wonder more and more how we managed to land Cazorla. What terrible secret did we use to blackmail him into signing?
Anyway. Next!
That is obvious?....Malaga were owned by an Arab Sheikh who got bored after one season and left them a load of unpaid bills and they have to hold a fire sale therefore we managed to sign Cazorla below market value
Marc Overmars
31-08-2013, 11:22 AM
That was a good price, in our territory.
Nah you need to pay a loan fee, well out of our budget.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 11:23 AM
But why didn'y anyone else go in for him? I'm not complaining, I just think it's odd we ended up with a talented player rather than pure shite.
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
31-08-2013, 11:24 AM
Wenger: "I was accused of buying non-English players. Now we have many, and you (media) push me to buy foreign players.
jesus he's so pedantic. Losing the plot.
Only got Cazorla because of Malaga's financial situation. No chance we would have spent big on him otherwise.
We make it our business to screw over clubs in the transfer market, most of them turn us down and laugh at us but ocassionally we get lucky and a cash strapped club is left with no choice but to sell.
That's unless we sign nobodies of course, in which case the price is always OK as they have no real market value.
jesus he's so pedantic. Losing the plot.
I f*cking hate this guy, he seems to lack any sort of common sense of and comes out with statements like this ignoring the wider issue of the lack of transfers.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 11:25 AM
Nah you need to pay a loan fee, well out of our budget.
Really? Oh shit, I was hoping we might squeak a few loans in at the last minute if we can't get any transfers done in this impossible market that hasn't moved in the right direction. There goes that options. We could have half time competitions to see if any of the fans are decent. Maybe give them a (small) discount on their season ticket if they agree to play when we are short?
McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2013, 11:27 AM
Really? Oh shit, I was hoping we might squeak a few loans in at the last minute if we can't get any transfers done in this impossible market that hasn't moved in the right direction. There goes that options. We could have half time competitions to see if any of the fans are decent. Maybe give them a (small) discount on their season ticket if they agree to play when we are short?
Don't forget we have to pay to enter the Champions League too.
milla
31-08-2013, 11:28 AM
Apparently Kaka is now on freebie section. :popcorn:
Marc Overmars
31-08-2013, 11:29 AM
jesus he's so pedantic. Losing the plot.
There are WUMs on here with more sense than him.
Apparently Kaka is now on freebie section. :popcorn:
Pretty sure he's going back to Milan.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 11:31 AM
All Wenger's language indicates a day of inactivity on Monday. He bats away any reason for signing players. In his mind it's even the media's fault he won't spend money. I'm way beyond having any clue how he thinks this bare bones squad (which is basically what, about 14 recognised senior players?) can get through a season and be competitive. This is like some holding exercise while they wait for a non-football related event or circumstance to arrive. I don't think these guys are focused on football at all, they can't be can they?
milla
31-08-2013, 11:31 AM
There are WUMs on here with more sense than him.
That is exactly what he wants you to think, the old fucker is a WUM guru. :coffee:
Munchies
31-08-2013, 11:32 AM
Apparently Kaka is now on freebie section. :popcorn:
He's broken now :(
5 years ago, without doubt.
I believe most of the links will come out tonight, if there are any.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 11:33 AM
Don't forget we have to pay to enter the Champions League too.
Okay, so that's encouraging because we must have paid that - or taken out a loan to pay for it. Which means it's not inconceivable we could spend a little on a loan fee? Theoretically, because obviously there are no top, top, top quality players to loan. But in principle it's conceivable we might possibly spend some money at some point on something?
The Ogg Monster
31-08-2013, 11:45 AM
Bendtners wages when he returns to save us.
milla
31-08-2013, 11:46 AM
The mods would do us a favour if they locked this thread and reopen it on Monday morning, Wumger will not make his moves at least until tomorrow's game. Some of these lot need a break from GW. :coffee:
Munchies
31-08-2013, 11:49 AM
The mods would do us a favour if they locked this thread and reopen it on Monday morning, Wumger will not make his moves at least until tomorrow's game. Some of these lot need a break from GW. :coffee:
What's the max number of pages a thread can reach ?
milla
31-08-2013, 11:53 AM
What's the max number of pages a thread can reach ?
Dunno. Spam it, see how far it goes. :lol:
Penguin
31-08-2013, 12:01 PM
With long term injuries to Ox and Pod, we may have to play Cazorla on the left. We don't have enough creative players I this team. If anything happened to Cazorla, we'd be in serious trouble for the season.
Why not just buy a winger then? Cazorla's best position is behind the striker so leave him there rather than shifting everyone out of position as soon as someone gets injured. Theo is the only recognised winger we have available.
Well if he's an upgrade on what we have then quantity shouldn't come into it.
That's not the issue, the point is we already have an excellent player in his position and back-ups in Rosicky/Jack, whereas we are ridiculously short up-front and out wide. As of this moment Cazorla's a better player and already proven in the premier league so I'm not in favor of moving him out wide either.
The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2013, 12:10 PM
I'd take Kaka in a heartbeat. Probably not at a level now to be starting weekly but would make for a quality squad player to play about 20 or so games a season. Do it Wenget.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/north-london-derby-arsne-wenger-wont-confront-reality-of-todays-prices-8792508.html
Your a manager that's all you are...it's not your job to "confront the reality of today's prices" that's for your bosses to do, a player's cost should be of no concern to you the only thing that should be of concern to you is whether you think he is good enough for the club that's it.....
So many great quotes there,
" If someone can find players who can strengthen our team, we will do it. But we have 20 people working on that, and if we can't find them, we can't do anything."
Those 20 people need to be identified so that we can all pelt them with tomatoes and bully them on Facebook. :coffee:
. "You could be in the position to buy a house that is worth £2m but if you like it and you have £4m, you can buy it for £4m," he said. "But that doesn't mean you can re-sell it for £4m, just that you have £4m and you can buy it."
:lol:
There are hundreds of players who can improve us, many of which have moved recently, these 20 people are clearly unable to do their job properly.
"If you have 20 people working on transfers and they are unable to find any players, then you must ask what are they doing." he said "But that doesn't mean they are doing a bad job if their bosses don't want them to spend any money." he continued "Quality is not as well linked to price, it is only sometimes but you can get quality and not pay 50 - 100 million"
13:11 BST Norwegian right-back Lars Vilsvik is set to sign for Arsenal before Monday's transfer deadline passes according to Sports Direct News. A £4 million deal is set to be completed appeasing Gunners fans fears that their club weren't going to sign anybody this summer.
Who?
milla
31-08-2013, 12:23 PM
Some unknown 6ft tall right back from Norwegian league. :coffee:
Munchies
31-08-2013, 12:47 PM
Who?
Sports Direct News ? :haha:
Worse than Gooney
KSE Comedy Club
31-08-2013, 12:54 PM
Sorry, they think us signing some unknown nobody for £4m will appease us?
Fuck off
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 01:13 PM
Who?
Santos 2.0
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 01:23 PM
I reckon any of us here would have a better chance of bringing quality in than the tossers actually responsible.
Wenger has got to put £78mill plus on the table and fly his arse over to Madrid on Monday and not come out of the room until Ozil, DiMaria and Benzema are signed. Fucking end of. Anything else is unacceptable for a club that is supposedly a financial powerhouse and has spent the last 8 years soaking the fans.
Just get it fucking done Wenger, get your arse to Madrid, bring as many psychiatrists as you need to help you through and most importantly, don't fucking come back unless you have the three players with you.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 01:25 PM
AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
Fuck it, fuckit fuuuuuck it!
Shaqiri Is Boss
31-08-2013, 01:26 PM
I miss Adzz...
Munchies
31-08-2013, 01:32 PM
AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
Fuck it, fuckit fuuuuuck it!
http://lolmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/frank-mir-headphones.gif
Got to laugh, Wenger was saying there were loads of players wanting to join us and somehow he's managed to sign none apart from freebies. The guy is a complete joke.
Ollie the Optimist
31-08-2013, 01:50 PM
there is some norwigan journalist saying on twitter that we offered 26 million and podolski for draxler.
now, ignoring that its twitter and most likely bollocks. this story worries me massively, because wenger has admitted that we are short of players, so there is no way he sells a striker to get a CAM. this, if true, smacks of board lies, we dont actually have money, and need to sell to buy.
Smacks of Wenger lies too to me, he's seems to be compulsive liar from the evidence we have at our disposal, one of the problem with compulsive liars is that it's not their fault and that they just can't help but lie.
Maybe I've not noticed but is there any other manager around who comes out with so much BS, it seems to come out of his mouth on a daily basis.
Munchies
31-08-2013, 01:55 PM
"Manchester City are on course to complete the signing of Atletico Madrid defender Martin Demichelis before the transfer window closes. The deal has been given the go-ahead after Ajax defender Toby Alderweireld passed a medical at Atletico today."
This cunt scored against us in 05 or so iirc
there is some norwigan journalist saying on twitter that we offered 26 million and podolski for draxler.
now, ignoring that its twitter and most likely bollocks. this story worries me massively, because wenger has admitted that we are short of players, so there is no way he sells a striker to get a CAM. this, if true, smacks of board lies, we dont actually have money, and need to sell to buy.
I'm sure a guy with a fucked hamstring will pass a medical at his new club.
Or it's lazy journalism.
The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2013, 01:57 PM
now, ignoring that its twitter and most likely bollocks. this story worries me massively, because wenger has admitted that we are short of players, so there is no way he sells a striker to get a CAM. this, if true, smacks of board lies, we dont actually have money, and need to sell to buy.
Come now Ollie don't create an imaginary olive branch for Wenger here. There's is money to spend and a lot of it at that. That can't and should not be used as an excuse this summer.
The financials don't lie. Swiss Ramble's last blog piece surmised that we have nearly the cash reserves of all 19 PL teams combined. Gazidis has said we have new financial power and even Wenger has begrudgingly admitted as much. Teams that aren't even in the CL or have close to the revenue streams that we have are spending a lot more than we are.
Let's not rewind back to seasons past when were speculating on whether Wenger had money or not. That's not an issue any more.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 01:59 PM
Wenger already said he has money to spend but, according to him, not as much as has been stated. Probably £69mill then.
McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2013, 02:08 PM
Technically speaking the owners are allowed to put in £20 million of their own money under FFP so that would take us to...£69 million. :coffee:
Ollie the Optimist
31-08-2013, 02:08 PM
Come now Ollie don't create an imaginary olive branch for Wenger here. There's is money to spend and a lot of it at that. That can't and should not be used as an excuse this summer.
The financials don't lie. Swiss Ramble's last blog piece surmised that we have nearly the cash reserves of all 19 PL teams combined. Gazidis has said we have new financial power and even Wenger has begrudgingly admitted as much. Teams that aren't even in the CL or have close to the revenue streams that we have are spending a lot more than we are.
Let's not rewind back to seasons past when were speculating on whether Wenger had money or not. That's not an issue any more.
ive already said elsewhere that this summer has been poor and wenger should leave beacuse of it so im not offering an olive branch.
we have about 5 players, so why would we be trying to sell one to get another player in, who plays in a position where we have lots of players, while selling one who we cant afford to lose. it doesnt make sense. wenger says we are thin, so there is no way he would get rid of podolski. it makes no sense to me, the only explanation i can think of is that money is being withheld for some reason and he has to sell to buy
Or he has no common sense and see's ££££ when he looks at our profits.
Nayan
31-08-2013, 02:25 PM
Come now Ollie don't create an imaginary olive branch for Wenger here. There's is money to spend and a lot of it at that. That can't and should not be used as an excuse this summer.
The financials don't lie. Swiss Ramble's last blog piece surmised that we have nearly the cash reserves of all 19 PL teams combined. Gazidis has said we have new financial power and even Wenger has begrudgingly admitted as much. Teams that aren't even in the CL or have close to the revenue streams that we have are spending a lot more than we are.
Let's not rewind back to seasons past when were speculating on whether Wenger had money or not. That's not an issue any more.
That cash reserves thing is tiresome. It's about 100 mill set vs the 260mill stadium mortgage. It's not free cash to spend on players
A bit like having money in a post office account because you can't throw it at the mortgage due to early repayment charges.
I'd it's not there for your wife to burn on a new kitchen or holiday.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 02:50 PM
So the board and now the manager are outright lying when they say there is substantial money to spend? What do you mean the money is set against the mortgage? In fact the wife can spend some of the money in the post office account provided her old man brings in more at later dates when mortgage repayments fall due. He doesn't have to keep the whole value of the mortgage on account. We've seen profits from player sales, income from property, enhanced commercial deals some of which are front loaded, receipts from participation in the Champions League, merchandising revenues and huge gate receipts. I hear the club has some £72mill sitting in government bonds. If they can't rustle up some of this to improve the team then they are fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of the business they are in. The finances revolve around the football, they seem to think the opposite, finances first and foremost then some football if it can be afforded. The place is run more like a pension fund than a sporting enterprise.
Penguin
31-08-2013, 02:56 PM
If board was lying about our transfer funds, the only things they succeeded in doing was weakening our negotiating position for transfers and pissing off the fans.
KSE Comedy Club
31-08-2013, 03:30 PM
The AST looked into the financials themselves and stated that thy estimate we have aroun £180m in cash reserves.
That money is there to be used for transfers and nothing to do with paying off the mortgage.
It's actually getting quite tiresome hearing people make out we have no money or very little when the fact is we are now one of the richest self made clubs in the world, (ie without the billionaire sugar daddy pumping money in)
Munchies
31-08-2013, 03:55 PM
Lets go for Ben Arfa
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
31-08-2013, 04:04 PM
wont he just be another nasri? Another moody git who'll throw a strop in a year
Munchies
31-08-2013, 04:05 PM
wont he just be another nasri? Another moody git who'll throw a strop in a year
Tbf to him, he's managed to last 2 years (and counting) at Newcastle , who aren't exactly doing too well and has been fairly quiet
Lets go for Ben Arfa
Would cost £25 million now judging by Newcastle's valuations.
AKBapologist
31-08-2013, 04:22 PM
We've got money, hell, we've got the credit rating to load up another 100mill on top of cash we could spend so it's not an issue.
Master Splinter
31-08-2013, 04:23 PM
Ben Arfa has about three half-decent games a season, in which he scores a spectacular goal.
Other than that, he's non-existent.
There's a reason a player with his talent is slumming it at Newcastle.
The Emirates Gallactico
31-08-2013, 04:29 PM
That cash reserves thing is tiresome. It's about 100 mill set vs the 260mill stadium mortgage. It's not free cash to spend on players
A bit like having money in a post office account because you can't throw it at the mortgage due to early repayment charges.
I'd it's not there for your wife to burn on a new kitchen or holiday.
But as we can't pay of the stadium early what's the point in keeping this money tied up in an account then? As NQ points out, we'll still be earning money in the future that can be used to pay of the stadium. We don't need to reserve a large portion in a bank account for that right now.
With the new mega sponsorship deals we've been waiting years for, we'll be able to break even from a solely football business p.o.v without requiring player sales, which to be fair has been the case the past few seasons. Besides football is no different to any other business - you have to speculate to accumulate. If we invested in the squad and as a result competed for the league, won some trophies and improved our reputation globally we'd automatically generate more revenue through increased commercial sponsorship, fan merchandise and prize money. See Man United.
It's more like a millionaire having a substantial post office savings account refusing to dip into it despite being informed that the foundations of his house are perilously close to collapsing without some immediate work done to it.
Munchies
31-08-2013, 05:01 PM
Rooney 'injures' his head :haha:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2407891/Wayne-Rooney-injures-head-Manchester-United-training-making-doubt-Liverpool.html
He's coming home !!
Wumger :bow:
Gooney :bow:
McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2013, 05:12 PM
He must have had a thought.
Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2013, 05:54 PM
piers morgan pretending to be an itk now?
so thats a phone hacking, lying, being a cunt of the highest order, and now pretending to be itk.
what a cunt
If you can hack phones,chance are that your're ITK.
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 06:09 PM
Wenger was on his way to write a cheque when he realised he's a tight fisted miserly old Scrooge git.
Harland
31-08-2013, 06:10 PM
someone on twitter, who doesn't claim to be ITK, and has been discrediting Wenger at every turn and tried to organise a 'Wenger out' fan demonstration is saying that he received 'reliable' information that we are submitting one final offer for Suarez.
Not that I believe it, but he's the last person that would fabricate anything positive whilst Wenger is in charge.
McNamara That Ghost...
31-08-2013, 06:13 PM
I imagine we'll be throwing out many bids on Monday (like Spuds did for every player in La Liga a couple of seasons ago) and see which one sticks.
Harland
31-08-2013, 06:16 PM
I imagine we'll be throwing out many bids on Monday (like Spuds did for every player in La Liga a couple of seasons ago) and see which one sticks.
and then forming a team to charge clubs who receive our bids for the bandwidth we used in the email system when the bid doesn't go through.
Munchies
31-08-2013, 06:27 PM
Would Liverpool sell him this late ?
Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2013, 06:31 PM
someone on twitter, who doesn't claim to be ITK, and has been discrediting Wenger at every turn and tried to organise a 'Wenger out' fan demonstration is saying that he received 'reliable' information that we are submitting one final offer for Suarez.
Not that I believe it, but he's the last person that would fabricate anything positive whilst Wenger is in charge.
£40,000,001.01?
Cripps_orig
31-08-2013, 06:35 PM
Lets go for Ben Arfa
This.
Quality player
Munchies
31-08-2013, 06:49 PM
Lets go for Torres aswell
http://i.minus.com/iiXUeW0C9Adpr.gif
:lol:
Munchies
31-08-2013, 07:16 PM
We're ready for tomorrow... #AFC @aaronramsey
http://i.imgur.com/AP23lCy.jpg
Nayan
31-08-2013, 07:22 PM
Lets go for Torres aswell
http://i.minus.com/iiXUeW0C9Adpr.gif
:lol:
Liverpool had his best years. Read Jamie carraghers article today in whatever rag he works for
Japan Shaking All Over
31-08-2013, 07:41 PM
Tbf to him, he's managed to last 2 years (and counting) at Newcastle , who aren't exactly doing too well and has been fairly quiet
didnt he suffer a leg break and was injured for chunks of that to be fair
Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
31-08-2013, 08:38 PM
didnt he suffer a leg break and was injured for chunks of that to be fair
Exactly to be honest i am surprised he hasn't joined a top club as since he came back from that injury (inflicted as a result of a horrific tackle by Nigel De Jong) i think he's been immense and if we signed him for 15-20 million i would consider that an excellent piece of business.
Munchies
31-08-2013, 08:58 PM
In an hour or so, all the 'transfer links' from the papers are released. Kalou anyone ?
Btw, this video isn't old, and wasn't posted on here before by me, but the warchest has been spent !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzfvnMCpe9k
One can hope :getcoat:
Cripps_orig
31-08-2013, 10:00 PM
Exactly to be honest i am surprised he hasn't joined a top club as since he came back from that injury (inflicted as a result of a horrific tackle by Nigel De Jong) i think he's been immense and if we signed him for 15-20 million i would consider that an excellent piece of business.
This
Cripps_orig
31-08-2013, 10:05 PM
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-szczesny-is-back-to-his-best
No first choice keeper ffs
Niall_Quinn
31-08-2013, 10:17 PM
This is always the downside of a good win or a good player performance, Wenger takes the opportunity to justify his penny pinching. He doesn't seem to understand competition, if a player is playing well then get some competition in to ensure he keeps on playing well. A win over the spuds tomorrow and he'll be on about the £110mill they have spent, further attempting to justify the fat zero he's invested in the team. Then when we run out of players mid-season he'll say we are unlucky.
Edinburgh Gooner
31-08-2013, 10:27 PM
What's the punishment for being unable to fulfill a fixture due to player shortage?
Cripps_orig
31-08-2013, 10:38 PM
What's the punishment for being unable to fulfill a fixture due to player shortage?
3 points deducted.
That's what happened to Middlesbrough.
AKBapologist
31-08-2013, 11:05 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/aug/31/arsenal-wenger-tottenham-derby?CMP=twt_gu
Midway through a fairly routine pre-match press conference a nerve was struck when the subject of Franco Baldini's busy summer as Tottenham Hotspur's technical director was put to Arsène Wenger. The inquisitor was not even permitted to reach the end of his question, as Wenger pounced with a short, sharp response. "Would you work with a dir …"
"No."
There was a pause. The air in the room felt a little thick suddenly. Was this a slight at Arsenal's neighbourly rivals? Hardly. This was more a case of Wenger flexing his muscles as the unchallenged lord of his Islington manor.
Xhaka Can’t
31-08-2013, 11:08 PM
His time has passed. The entire structure of our club is light years out of date and will not change under his watch.
Cripps_orig
31-08-2013, 11:23 PM
Swansea have warned Arsenal they are prepared to fight "tooth and nail" to keep hold of 29-year-old central defender Ashley Williams and striker Michu, 27.
Full story: Metro
Chelsea playmaker Juan Mata, 25, will have to *demand a transfer in order to push through a move to Arsenal.
Full story: Sunday People
Liverpool skipper Steven Gerrard, 33, has told striker Luis Suarez, 26, that he is too big for Arsenal, but he can go to Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern Munich if Liverpool don't qualify for the next season's Champions League.
Full story: Sunday Mirror
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger says he would not be prepared to work with a director of football.
Full story: The Observer
Hope they do tbh
Mata needs to put in a transfer request ASAP
Gerard needs to stfu. Just cos hes flopped doesn't mean Suarez has to.
Time for a director of football to come home.
Özil's Panoramic View
31-08-2013, 11:58 PM
Hope they do tbh
Mata needs to put in a transfer request ASAP
Gerard needs to stfu. Just cos hes flopped doesn't mean Suarez has to.
Time for a director of football to come home.
Everything here ^
Board bring in a Football Director and the arrogant miser cunts off. :pray:
Niall_Quinn
01-09-2013, 12:46 AM
Manager Arsene Wenger has been chasing Real Madrid trio Angel Di Maria, Mesut Ozil and Karim Benzema, and is also interested in Schalke’s Julian Draxler. It is believed the *£38million buy-out clause in Draxler’s contract expired in June.
But, aware such big deals will be hard to pull off with so little time left, Wenger has identified 24-year-old Montero as a last-minute back-up option. Cardiff have been in *negotiations with *Montero and his Mexican club Morelia, but the *Premier League new boys have been made aware of Arsenal’s interest.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-jefferson-montero-cardiff-2240934#ixzz2db6VCW1z
WHO?
Niall_Quinn
01-09-2013, 12:54 AM
I think we'll sign Mata. It makes no sense for him to be out in the cold at the chavs with a world cup year coming up. City don't need him and Utd have Moyes, so we could actually do this deal and stand a chance of getting him. It won't make much of a difference overall as we need at least 5 top players by the end of Monday but he would still add quality in what is set to be a tough season trying to scrape 4th.
Cripps_orig
01-09-2013, 01:51 AM
WHO?
Just wiki'd him.
Looks a bit shit
Ticks that box then
Niall_Quinn
01-09-2013, 01:55 AM
Just wiki'd him.
Looks a bit shit
Ticks that box then
Is he free and French?
Cripps_orig
01-09-2013, 02:03 AM
Prob won't cost much but doubt he's free so way out of our price range.
He's also Ecuadorean
Master Splinter
01-09-2013, 02:12 AM
Just wiki'd him.
Killing the forum. FFS.
Should have asked me to relay the information to you.
Master Splinter
01-09-2013, 02:14 AM
I think we'll sign Mata. It makes no sense for him to be out in the cold at the chavs with a world cup year coming up. City don't need him and Utd have Moyes, so we could actually do this deal and stand a chance of getting him. It won't make much of a difference overall as we need at least 5 top players by the end of Monday but he would still add quality in what is set to be a tough season trying to scrape 4th.
Mata on his own is better than every Spurs and Liverpool signing combined tbf.
Not that Liverpool will be anywhere near 4th.
Niall_Quinn
01-09-2013, 02:51 AM
If we haven't seen some significant signings in the next 48 hours it will be close on a miracle if we scrape 4th. Biggest 48 hours in Wenger's career coming up. I don;t see how anyone can support him if he lets us go into the season with a squad this depleted.
Niall_Quinn
01-09-2013, 03:36 AM
piiiiiiiiissed as a pudding
Özil's Panoramic View
01-09-2013, 03:40 AM
Don't know how anyone continued to support him after he engineered our most humiliating lost ever.
Became even more baffling that some fans still had faith in him after he then, a season later, sold our best player, and League's best striker, to the team that humiliated had us.
Ollie the Optimist
01-09-2013, 08:28 AM
It's now September and we haven't spent any money.
The Emirates Gallactico
01-09-2013, 08:39 AM
56 hours to go. :unsure:
http://havearsenalspentanymoneyyet.com/
KSE Comedy Club
01-09-2013, 09:33 AM
The daily star is saying that were after draxler, Ozil and have renewed our interest in sniejder :blink:
According to the SSN app.
Cripps_orig
01-09-2013, 09:39 AM
Sneijder would be brilliant.
Penguin
01-09-2013, 09:39 AM
:lol:
bunsco
01-09-2013, 10:15 AM
This.
Quality player
Ben Artur goes missing in games a little too often for my liking.
bunsco
01-09-2013, 10:30 AM
Anyway,whoever we get - I'll still be funking angry
Bottom line is Wenger will not have addressed our (embarrassingly obvious to everyone but him) shortcomings.
So yet another fight for the coveted 4th place trophy
:fury:
Munchies
01-09-2013, 10:35 AM
We're making a signing !
'Arsenal, today Viviano will have medical '
http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/viviano-on-verge-of-joining-arsenal-medical-today/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTEgwFRIMAAkrBi.jpg
:lol:
Just pay Cesar :doh:
bunsco
01-09-2013, 10:57 AM
We're making a signing !
'Arsenal, today Viviano will have medical '
http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/viviano-on-verge-of-joining-arsenal-medical-today/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTEgwFRIMAAkrBi.jpg
:lol:
Just pay Cesar :doh:
Oh for fucks sake!!!
Arsene bingo for today?
Focus on what we have.
We have already top players.
If there is an opportunity we will take it.
I am not racist against spending.
The solution is not always to spend spend spend.
I can understand the frustration.
To make any deal, there are three parties that must agree.
Cripps_orig
01-09-2013, 11:05 AM
We're making a signing !
'Arsenal, today Viviano will have medical '
http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/viviano-on-verge-of-joining-arsenal-medical-today/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTEgwFRIMAAkrBi.jpg
:lol:
Just pay Cesar :doh:
We've been linked with him before during our previous dark days under Almunia.
he was a bit shit then as well
The Emirates Gallactico
01-09-2013, 11:52 AM
Sneijder would be brilliant.
Wouldn't be brilliant for the fans sitting in row Z.
Xhaka Can’t
01-09-2013, 12:09 PM
There is no row Z.
KSE Comedy Club
01-09-2013, 12:13 PM
At least he's only on loan
Munchies
01-09-2013, 01:42 PM
@GeoffArsenal
Very very close to a "Top Top Quality" German International that you will be delighted with.
Draxler done then
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