Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Özim]

Coming from an expert, that's quite the compliment to call me the best.

It's funny coz my jokez are also bad.

LOLZ just LOLZ at Zim

[Master Splinter]

It's funny coz my jokez are also bad.

LOLZ just LOLZ at Zim

Bad is a generous understatement, but LOLZ at Zim indeed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Operation Blow It All has got off to an uncertain start.

Jeremy Wilson has us blowing £80 million. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10260745/Arsenal-target-Real-Madrids-Karim-Benzema-and-Angel-di-Maria-in-80m-spree.html

John Cross has us buying every player we've been linked to in the last few days I think.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-benzema-di-maria-2207903

And Flamini. :bow:

[Özim]

Bad is a generous understatement, but LOLZ at Zim indeed.

Becauz you iz the bestest at bad jokez, I feele very wondarful.

Fanks.

[BlindFaith_8]

Hope Chelsea get Willian.

I hope Tottenham do as it will hopefully pile more presurre on this french clueless to$$er.

[Özim]

Operation Blow It All has got off to an uncertain start.

Jeremy Wilson has us blowing £80 million. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10260745/Arsenal-target-Real-Madrids-Karim-Benzema-and-Angel-di-Maria-in-80m-spree.html

John Cross has us buying every player we've been linked to in the last few days I think.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-benzema-di-maria-2207903

And Flamini. :bow:

BS going into overdrive

Arsenal have money + Wenger saying there will be lots of activity = Benzema + Di Maria + Cabaye + Ronaldo + Messi

[Munchies]

John Cross is a twit


'While, two years ago, the Frenchman was shopping in Primark, he is now going wild in the aisles of Harrods'

:doh:

[Master Splinter]

Harrods :lol:.

Awlful House Of Fraser.

[GP]

House of Frasier :lol:

Awful House of Cheers

[Harland]

'Operation Blow it all'

lolers

[Özim]

Wenger is gonna blow his load if we sign Flamini for free.

[Marc Overmars]

Harrods food hall. :bow:

[Harland]

Benzema transfer quite dependent on Suarez it seems, hindsight is a wonderful thing but we should have just signed Higuain. Hassle free, wanted to come to us.... zzzz

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are preparing for a 10-day transfer spree that could bring them five players, including Real Madrid striker Karim Benzema, 25, and winger Angel di Maria, 25, at a total cost of £80 million.
Full story: Daily Telegraph

Real Madrid would be willing to let midfielder Mesut Ozil, 24, leave for around £38m. The Germany international is said to be worried about losing match time with the expected arrival of Gareth Bale from Tottenham. Manchester United are reportedly interested.

Full story: Bild (in German)


Ozil surely has to be one of the 5.

Brilliant player and if we got him, all of Wengers retardness would be forgiven

[Özim]

Ozil surely has to be one of the 5.

Brilliant player and if we got him, all of Wengers retardness would be forgiven

Yup agree, we won't get him though, or even be interested.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

would be extremely delighted to have Ozil.

could possibly even afford Wenger some reprieve, providing he doesn't stick him at CB.

[Cripps_orig]

He'd be played out wide

[JonasTC]

We should try to raid madrid tho... With Bale comming in they have like 7-8 world class players fighting for the 3 front spots, im sure some of them would rather want full-time football at Arsenal with the world cup comming next year and im sure madrid would be happy to offload some of them, since they probably need some cash after spending 1,5+ billion.

[bunsco]

Lol'd !

That was good :haha:

Very very good :haha:

[bunsco]

He'd be played out wide

:gp:

[Cripps_orig]

:gp:

Which he shouldn't be.

In the middle behind a striker.

Someone who isn't Giroud.

[hobson's choice]

I know money and prospect of more is one of the main reasons why players sign to Real Madrid. But once in a while, I really would like to see a player just say to Madrid and there money grabbing agent. Why the fuck do want to sign me, when you already have 3 players in that position, and will just get rid of me in 2 years. When the latest hype players comes along.

Madrid truly are a tacky, Euro trashy Club, and why players keep flocking over there baffles me. What the fuck is so prestigious about them. Someone please enlighten me.

[Cripps_orig]

I know money and prospect of more is one of the main reasons why players sign to Real Madrid. But once in a while, I really would like to see a player just say to Madrid and there money grabbing agent. Why the fuck do want to sign me, when you already have 3 players in that position, and will just get rid of me in 2 years. When the latest hype players comes along.

Madrid truly are a tacky, Euro trashy Club, and why players keep flocking over there baffles me. What the fuck is so prestigious about them. Someone please enlighten me.

Biggest club in the world?

Most successful?

9 European cups

Home to the best player in the world

Good football

[Niall_Quinn]

I know money and prospect of more is one of the main reasons why players sign to Real Madrid. But once in a while, I really would like to see a player just say to Madrid and there money grabbing agent. Why the fuck do want to sign me, when you already have 3 players in that position, and will just get rid of me in 2 years. When the latest hype players comes along.

Madrid truly are a tacky, Euro trashy Club, and why players keep flocking over there baffles me. What the fuck is so prestigious about them. Someone please enlighten me.

Free steroids

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

If we sign Flamini we won't sign another DM will we?

Flamini, Arteta and Frimpong battling it out.

It's not like he'll have 4, with Ramsey who can play there too. So he's not here to make up the numbers, he's here to start.

If that's the case I'd rather we spent it on a proper DM in their prime.

£70m and we're going for free's :haha:

[Globalgunner]

If we sign Flamini we won't sign another DM will we?

Flamini, Arteta and Frimpong battling it out.

It's not like he'll have 4, with Ramsey who can play there too. So he's not here to make up the numbers, he's here to start.

If that's the case I'd rather we spent it on a proper DM in their prime.

£70m and we're going for free's :haha:

You should never discount the power of discounts

[Edinburgh Gooner]

The season starts now! Wenger wants his men to kick on
Wenger: 'For us the season can take off at this point. It’s a very important game tomorrow to respond to Villa game. It’s very important to recover very quickly. We play Wednesday night, Saturday morning. We must get energy, dynamic, focus straight back.

'Ideally we’d rather have our squad in place before start of season. I am a big fan of closing the window once the season has started. It makes sense. We work very hard on it, it didn’t come off as quickly and well as we wanted. In football you have to deal with any situation and be patient.

'As long as window until the last minute anything can happen. You would be surprised how early we acted. It’s a question of patience. Sometimes nothing happens for five six weeks then sometimes in 24 hours you can do five, six good deals. It’s not predictable.'

Asked if he would rather mould his own players, rather than bying them, Wenger added: 'That has to be the basis. You can buy world class players but it cannot be the basis of any club to only buy players.

'They have to add something to what you have done at home. Our midfield on Wednesday night, three of five have made debut here and at top level. Two have been bought. I think that’s the right balance.

'We are happy with Champs League football but we want more. The first question of any player moving is: "Do you play in the Champions League?" It’s as simple as that. That is the first requirement of the top, top players.'


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Wenger's press conference this morning

[LDG]

Shut up Wenget.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

:gp:

[Marc Overmars]

Shut up Wenget.

Pretty much.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Micah Richards is crocked with a hamstring injury. Definately a Wenger signing

[Globalgunner]

The man is annoying, comes out withthe same b.s everytime a microphone is put in front of him. Which top top player has he signed in 8 years. And we have been in CL since for ever

[Ralpheroo72]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2400766/Arsenal-write-letter-angry-fans-complained-Arsene-Wengers-lack-new-signings.html

This in the Mail today.....

[Edinburgh Gooner]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2400766/Arsenal-write-letter-angry-fans-complained-Arsene-Wengers-lack-new-signings.html

This in the Mail today.....

Was just gonna post that lol.

[Globalgunner]

I posted some time earlier that the pantomime show that is our club is like an episode of the Muppet show. So I have decided to cast the characters with some from the club and a few from GW. Most just choose themselves. Stan and Sir Chips are the 2 old geezers up in the stands with Wenger as Kermit obviously but based on my own analysis of the personalities on GW I have nominated NQ and Cripps as Bert and Ernie (they really like each other wjile pretending not to get along) while Ollie is the count as he sucks the hope out of me. HCZ as Grover. I need some suggestions for Miss Piggy (was thinking Zimm) and Big bird has to be Josh Gooner. Thoughts?

[LDG]

I posted some time earlier that the pantomime show that is our club is like an episode of the Muppet show. So I have decided to cast the characters with some from the club and a few from GW. Most just choose themselves. Stan and Sir Chips are the 2 old geezers up in the stands with Wenger as Kermit obviously but based on my own analysis of the personalities on GW I have nominated NQ and Cripps as Bert and Ernie (they really like each other wjile pretending not to get along) while Ollie is the count as he sucks the hope out of me. HCZ as Grover. I need some suggestions for Miss Piggy (was thinking Zimm) and Big bird has to be Josh Gooner. Thoughts?

Big Bird isn't in the muppets, you muppet.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Big Bird isn't in the muppets, you muppet.

:lol:

[Globalgunner]

Sheeesh! you Gooners are wound up pretty tight these days. I wonder why

[BlindFaith_8]

The season starts now! Wenger wants his men to kick on
Wenger: 'For us the season can take off at this point. It’s a very important game tomorrow to respond to Villa game. It’s very important to recover very quickly. We play Wednesday night, Saturday morning. We must get energy, dynamic, focus straight back.

'Ideally we’d rather have our squad in place before start of season. I am a big fan of closing the window once the season has started. It makes sense. We work very hard on it, it didn’t come off as quickly and well as we wanted. In football you have to deal with any situation and be patient.

'As long as window until the last minute anything can happen. You would be surprised how early we acted. It’s a question of patience. Sometimes nothing happens for five six weeks then sometimes in 24 hours you can do five, six good deals. It’s not predictable.'

Asked if he would rather mould his own players, rather than bying them, Wenger added: 'That has to be the basis. You can buy world class players but it cannot be the basis of any club to only buy players.

'They have to add something to what you have done at home. Our midfield on Wednesday night, three of five have made debut here and at top level. Two have been bought. I think that’s the right balance.

'We are happy with Champs League football but we want more. The first question of any player moving is: "Do you play in the Champions League?" It’s as simple as that. That is the first requirement of the top, top players.'


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Wenger's press conference this morning

Freebies take 24 hours, big money signings can take up to 2-3 weeks, so looks like more free transfers or unattached players. Why not asky Denis to come out of retirement and Overmars. Our club is a joke and has no class or standards anymore. He will be sitting in his press conference with so much confidence after beating fenerbache. I can see us losing tomorrow anyway.

[LDG]

Fuck me. Arse.com just posted up "Wenger - Window won't be a repeat of 2011"

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-window-won-t-be-repeat-of-2011

Here's two quotes:


At that time it was linked with injuries, we had unexpected long-term injuries and you cannot sit there and do nothing at all,” Wenger said. “If you have unexpected injuries you have to do something about it.

We are not in need of numbers like we were at the time. We have our targets, we will try to achieve that and I am confident we will get there.




I'm very, very happy with the squad we have. When I tell you that, it's about the quality of the players I have. With the number, at the moment we are short.

Therefore I would be a bit worried that number-wise, we are not strong enough to cope with all the targets a club like this has. We will not go into the new season with only the number of players we have.



The man has gone mental.

[Cripps_orig]

A laughing stock

[Özim]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2400766/Arsenal-write-letter-angry-fans-complained-Arsene-Wengers-lack-new-signings.html

This in the Mail today.....

:lol: What a load of nonsense, words are cheap they've been saying the same thing in the press for years.

[-Xs-]

They are thanking us for our interest in their affairs. How nice

[Globalgunner]

The stuff he comes out with is just bizarre. "Quality wise we are okay, but we need quantity". Who on earth says that kind of stuff, We are talking about footballers not ingredients for a mince pie.Does he mean that the quality of players we have does not need to be improved, or what?

[fakeyank]

780 pages and we have Sanogo :haha:

[Letters]

The stuff he comes out with is just bizarre. "Quality wise we are okay, but we need quantity". Who on earth says that kind of stuff, We are talking about footballers not ingredients for a mince pie.Does he mean that the quality of players we have does not need to be improved, or what?
It's obvious what he means.

[Özim]

It's obvious what he means.

Well we're not really ok quality wise either to be honest.

[Munchies]

How many pages will this thread get to before we have a signing announced ? (not including Sanogo)

Why is it taking the board so long to sign some shit players

[Niall_Quinn]

We are only interested in top, top shit. We already have quality shit, there is no point buying more shit unless it is shittier than what we have. You cannot just go out an buy 11 Sanogos.

[Niall_Quinn]

SO:

Opening day loss behind us, a CL qualifier that luckily wasn't Sociedad, now we move on to our next PL match - AND NO FUCKING SIGNINGS! What a bunch of greedy bastards we have in charge. The club gives them everything, they give nothing back. Take, take, take.

[Globalgunner]

It's obvious what he means.

Whatever he means it doesn't make sense. We were 20 points off winning the league, so more of the same means we stay the same, assuming othersdont improve.
If we don't need better players then obviously we need a better manager

[Özim]

SO:

Opening day loss behind us, a CL qualifier that luckily wasn't Sociedad, now we move on to our next PL match - AND NO FUCKING SIGNINGS! What a bunch of greedy bastards we have in charge. The club gives them everything, they give nothing back. Take, take, take.

Yeah we got a good draw IMO, Sociedad were the team to avoid, had we got them we'd have been in trouble as they are a very good team.

[Globalgunner]

Yeah we got a good draw IMO, Sociedad were the team to avoid, had we got them we'd have been in trouble as they are a very good team.

We all know what happens whenever we face a very good team

[Niall_Quinn]

We all know what happens whenever we face a very good team

Yes, we can claim we should have won and it was an accident we didn't.

[Grebbo]

Whatever he means it doesn't make sense. We were 20 points off winning the league, so more of the same means we stay the same, assuming othersdont improve.
If we don't need better players then obviously we need a better manager

You're assuming though that our players wont improve from last season. Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere, Theo, Chesney, should all naturally improve year on year as they get older. The same can't really be said for a lot of Man Utd players because they're at their peak and can only really decline. Of course they'll strengthen though at the fist sign of decline.

You've also got Cazorla and Giroud who should be better in their second seasons.

Of course we still need better players, 100%, this transfer window has been a disaster. But our existing players should/could also improve.

[Globalgunner]

Yes, we can claim we should have won and it was an accident we didn't.

Usually it goes like this, We get smashed 1-4 at home things to their place and win 1-3 then we can claim the moral high ground.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Wenger is batshit crazed man.

[Globalgunner]

You're assuming though that our players wont improve from last season. Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere, Theo, Chesney, should all naturally improve year on year as they get older. The same can't really be said for a lot of Man Utd players because they're at their peak and can only really decline. Of course they'll strengthen though at the fist sign of decline.

You've also got Cazorla and Giroud who should be better in their second seasons.

Of course we still need better players, 100%, this transfer window has been a disaster. But our existing players should/could also improve.

On the evidence of our last game those, we haven't improved one bit, but hey, even the last 8 years never really happened either. Things can only get better since we smashed both City and the Turks
There were a lot of should s in your post . When we add them together do they make a "Will"

While we assume our ugly ducklings will turn into Swans, ambitious teams actually go out in search of better players

[Grebbo]

On the evidence of our last game those, we haven't improved one bit, but hey, even the last 8 years never really happened either. Things can only get better since we smashed both City and the Turks

Well I think Ramsey has improved since last season. Walcott has certainly improved in his time with us, still as frustrating as hell but his goals/assists record is excellent. Wilshere must surely improve now his injury is healed. Chesney's still pretty crap and Gibbs isn't great but I think they'll improve - hopefully in Chesney's case not in the first team.

I still am in no doubt that the team is not good enough and we need 3 or 4 world class players but that's not to say our existing players can't improve.

Look at players like Bale, always looked pretty good as a teenager but I never thought he'd become the player he is today. Players in their early 20's can improve a lot very quickly.

[Marc Overmars]

Don't really buy into the idea that all players improve by default on the basis of a years experience. Players improve with good management and also by being complimented with quality players around them. 2 things we don't have anymore.

[Globalgunner]

Well I think Ramsey has improved since last season. Walcott has certainly improved in his time with us, still as frustrating as hell but his goals/assists record is excellent. Wilshere must surely improve now his injury is healed. Chesney's still pretty crap and Gibbs isn't great but I think they'll improve - hopefully in Chesney's case not in the first team.

I still am in no doubt that the team is not good enough and we need 3 or 4 world class players but that's not to say our existing players can't improve.

Look at players like Bale, always looked pretty good as a teenager but I never thought he'd become the player he is today. Players in their early 20's can improve a lot very quickly.

These Ramsey that was gash against Villai and in the Emirates cup is on thes basis of 1 game now upwardly mobile.. I hope you are right but just don't see how.

[Özim]

You're assuming though that our players wont improve from last season. Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere, Theo, Chesney, should all naturally improve year on year as they get older. The same can't really be said for a lot of Man Utd players because they're at their peak and can only really decline. Of course they'll strengthen though at the fist sign of decline.

You've also got Cazorla and Giroud who should be better in their second seasons.

Of course we still need better players, 100%, this transfer window has been a disaster. But our existing players should/could also improve.

Should yes, will who knows. These players have been around a long time and some have been injured a lot and continue to get injured, others may not improve at all and just not make the grade. It's a risky strategy basing your season on young players improving.

[Özim]

Don't really buy into the idea that all players improve by default on the basis of a years experience. Players improve with good management and also by being complimented with quality players around them. 2 things we don't have anymore.

No me neither, this is the sh*t Wenger spouts out every summer and it never comes to fruition, players improve like you say when they have better players to learn from and older players to help them through the tough situations, our players don't have that luxury and the improvement is often negligible.

[Ralpheroo72]

We are a PLC! :dance:

[Grebbo]

Don't really buy into the idea that all players improve by default on the basis of a years experience. Players improve with good management and also by being complimented with quality players around them. 2 things we don't have anymore.

Not all players will improve but good ones with the right attitude should.

In his 5 years at Tottenham, Bale was surrounded by shit and had 4 different managers so unless Bale is a one off then I'm not sure how relevant management and playing with great players is. Of course it helps but fundamentally you need natural talent and a huge desire to be the best - if you have this you'll rise to the top no matter which players you play with or who you're managed by.

[Munchies]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23809884
"While we maybe don't have as much money as everybody writes, we have some funds available to do transfers," he said.

:lol:

[GP]

I don't get it

[Munchies]

We got shit loads in the warchest, and he's saying we got peanuts essentially.

[GP]

We got shit loads in the warchest, and he's saying we got peanuts essentially.

Why's that funny?

It would be dumb to go on about how rich you are when you're trying to buy players.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

SO:

Opening day loss behind us, a CL qualifier that luckily wasn't Sociedad, now we move on to our next PL match - AND NO FUCKING SIGNINGS! What a bunch of greedy bastards we have in charge. The club gives them everything, they give nothing back. Take, take, take.

Sounds like Mrs Letters on a friday night.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

House of Frasier :lol:

Awful House of Cheers


MS loses his title

[Japan Shaking All Over]

You're assuming though that our players wont improve from last season. Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere, Theo, Chesney, should all naturally improve year on year as they get older. The same can't really be said for a lot of Man Utd players because they're at their peak and can only really decline. Of course they'll strengthen though at the fist sign of decline.

You've also got Cazorla and Giroud who should be better in their second seasons.

Of course we still need better players, 100%, this transfer window has been a disaster. But our existing players should/could also improve.

You are right that we can expect better seasons from last year's rookies but I hope you don't mean Cazorla was bad last year and Giroud even though he seemed to be sticking his tongue out more than sticking the ball in the back of the net, he still got 17 odd goals (if I am not mistaken) which is not a bad return although I still feel we need another high quality(better) striker

[BlindFaith_8]

Why's that funny?

It would be dumb to go on about how rich you are when you're trying to buy players.

True, but when it comes to Arsenal we don't know how to play poker. We have a twat in Gazidis who flaunts our wealth to the world's media, and then we have inspectior clueless coming out with is dogs bollox of we 'havent got as much as you think', makes it all a mockery. I suggest they both take a lesson in how to conduct business from Daniel Levy and Baldini.

[Kano]

http://www.gifti.me/i/WXUfOieY.gif

[Özim]

Not all players will improve but good ones with the right attitude should.

In his 5 years at Tottenham, Bale was surrounded by shit and had 4 different managers so unless Bale is a one off then I'm not sure how relevant management and playing with great players is. Of course it helps but fundamentally you need natural talent and a huge desire to be the best - if you have this you'll rise to the top no matter which players you play with or who you're managed by.

Bale is an exceptional talent, I don't really see too many at Arsenal, in addition how many kids have we had and how many have improved a lot...not many at all.

[Grebbo]

Bale isn't an exceptional talent, I don't really see too many at Arsenal, in addition how many kids have we had and how many have improved a lot...not many at all.

Isn't or is? I presume you meant is.

Did you think Bale was an exceptional talent 3 seasons ago? All I'm saying is young players can improve a lot in a short space of time, of course they can also stagnate. I still maintain that this transfer window has been a disaster and we need 3-4 world class players but I also don't think that it's wrong for Wenger to think that our players can get better.

[Grebbo]

You are right that we can expect better seasons from last year's rookies but I hope you don't mean Cazorla was bad last year and Giroud even though he seemed to be sticking his tongue out more than sticking the ball in the back of the net, he still got 17 odd goals (if I am not mistaken) which is not a bad return although I still feel we need another high quality(better) striker

No I'm not saying they were bad, I'm saying that it's not unreasonable to think that they could be better now that they have Prem experience.

[Xhaka Can’t]

True, but when it comes to Arsenal we don't know how to play poker. We have a twat in Gazidis who flaunts our wealth to the world's media, and then we have inspectior clueless coming out with is dogs bollox of we 'havent got as much as you think', makes it all a mockery. I suggest they both take a lesson in how to conduct business from Daniel Levy and Baldini.
What we have is publicly accessible in our annual accounts that we are legally obliged to file.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Let's stop with the fake links please.

[Özim]

Isn't or is? I presume you meant is.

Did you think Bale was an exceptional talent 3 seasons ago? All I'm saying is young players can improve a lot in a short space of time, of course they can also stagnate. I still maintain that this transfer window has been a disaster and we need 3-4 world class players but I also don't think that it's wrong for Wenger to think that our players can get better.

Sorry yes I meant is :)

I didn't know much about him if I'm honest, I know they rated him very highly at Southampton though (but then they did Theo as well so....). I can see what you're saying but other than Oxo I don't really see players with huge potential like Bale has, Ramsey had a bad injury and that hindered him and perhaps he'll improve, the rest though I can't see it.

Wenger has been saying the same for years, it's helped him make excuses as to why we haven't signed quality, he doesn't want to spend money on players and this suits his agenda tbh.

[AKBapologist]

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/370877311454703617/photo/1

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/370877311454703617/photo/1

United still can't sign anyone :haha:

[Özim]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23809884
"While we maybe don't have as much money as everybody writes, we have some funds available to do transfers," he said.

:lol:

Basically he doesn't want to spend much, he hates spending money. Freebies and cheap nobodies is what he likes best.

[Grebbo]

Sorry yes I meant is :)

I didn't know much about him if I'm honest, I know they rated him very highly at Southampton though (but then they did Theo as well so....). I can see what you're saying but other than Oxo I don't really see players with huge potential like Bale has, Ramsey had a bad injury and that hindered him and perhaps he'll improve, the rest though I can't see it.

Wenger has been saying the same for years, it's helped him make excuses as to why we haven't signed quality, he doesn't want to spend money on players and this suits his agenda tbh.

Wilshere has huge potential, before he was injured he was pretty awesome for a 19yr old. Granted he's looked very average since his come back but he could certainly become a top top player. Whether he will or not we'll just have to see.

Bear in mind you don't hit your peak until about 27 so there's certainly still time for our players. What they need is to be supplemented with 3-4 ready made world class players now.

[Niall_Quinn]

another day ticks by, have the ABSOLUTE SHITHEADS who run our club signed anyone yet?

[Niall_Quinn]

And where is Ollie?

[Cripps_orig]

Hasn't been seen since before the Villa humiliation.

Think he may have topped himself

[Niall_Quinn]

Maybe he is laying up in a hiding place waiting for his moment to solve the Wenger problem.

[fakeyank]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8885174/arsenal-star-jack-wilshere-offers-support-to-manager-arsene-wenger

Bye JW19 :wave:

I'd rather not have Wenger at Arsenal than have Wilshere at the club. His injury prone arse can piss off with the french bank manager!

[GP]

Try to keep up.

[Nayan]

wenger can do one and wilshere will be at chelsea within 2 years anyway

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

And where is Ollie?

I was thinking that today.

He's done a Charlie after being humiliated over the summer saga.

They found a body in the canal earlier, hope he didn't do anything stupid to himself.

[Özim]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8885174/arsenal-star-jack-wilshere-offers-support-to-manager-arsene-wenger

Bye JW19 :wave:

I'd rather not have Wenger at Arsenal than have Wilshere at the club. His injury prone arse can piss off with the french bank manager!


"Arsene Wenger has been there for so many years and he's always delivered trophies."

I think Wenger has brainwashed them, not hard though.

[Özim]

wenger can do one and wilshere will be at chelsea within 2 years anyway

Wilshere has done nothing, he'll be lucky to be at Chelsea, more likely Millwall.

[Nayan]

Wilshere has done nothing, he'll be lucky to be at Chelsea, more likely Millwall.

ok maybe city now that chelsea have a proper manager again. Good honest english lad and future england captain (acc to gerrard) etc.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://metro.co.uk/2013/08/23/schalke-open-talks-with-arsenal-over-loan-deal-for-forward-lukas-podolski-3935405/

Dont think this is the right move for us......I know there are mixed feelings about Pods but surely we cant get rid of another(well we can if someone says 'you know what? we'll pay all his wages')

It can only go through if the RM double deal gets done....and Pods fidgets for a move becauseof coming WC........IMO we should keep

[Nayan]

there is something up if he never starts

[Cripps_orig]

Would be ridiculous to get rid of Podolski.

Excellent player

[Özim]

So we're thinking of getting rid of Podolski, despite have a p*ss poor tiny squad with barely a decent striker.

Great idea.

[Niall_Quinn]

Surely somebody out there wants Cazorla too? He's been great, we could get lovely cash for him. Lovely, lovely, beautiful, horny cash. Our Cash, that makes our heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy cash will come, thy job is done, on earth - you can keep your heaven. Give us each day our daily cash and protect us from reciprocity, as we condemn those who stuff our wallets, Arsene.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

We don't need Podolski.

We don't have a thin squad.

Wenger knows what he's doing.

[Globalgunner]

wenger can do one and wilshere will be at chelsea within 2 years anyway

Wilshere is starting to believe hisown hype and the B.S Wenger spouts about top top qualitee. We generally play better w/o him in the team anyways. Dont let the door hit your short arse on the way out

[Özim]

Surely somebody out there wants Cazorla too? He's been great, we could get lovely cash for him. Lovely, lovely, beautiful, horny cash. Our Cash, that makes our heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy cash will come, thy job is done, on earth - you can keep your heaven. Give us each day our daily cash and protect us from reciprocity, as we condemn those who stuff our wallets, Arsene.

Next summer he'll be available on the cheap as his contract will be running down, they'll move in then, they're not stupid.

[Niall_Quinn]

Next summer he'll be available on the cheap as his contract will be running down, they'll move in then, they're not stupid.

But so much better to have cash now, as much as we can get. Sell everything - get cash, get so much cash and then get more cash.

[Özim]

Wilshere is starting to believe hisown hype and the B.S Wenger spouts about top top qualitee. We generally play better w/o him in the team anyways. Dont let the door hit your short arse on the way out

Yeah agree, he's becoming a bit big headed as if it would be a disaster if he left, considering he's done f*ck all and been injured most of the time it won't. In addition he's using the fact he signed a 5 year contract as proof of loyalty and then saying that he could leave if Wenger leaves...so clearly his loyalty isn't to the club.

Plus he only signed the contract to get more money anyway.

[Cripps_orig]

He's on what £80k+ a week?

:haha:

One of two things will happen. He becomes awesome and leaves as when it comes contract renewal time, we won't pay more than that and Jack will want more as he got 80k for doing f all so will rightfully want more for being awesome.

Or he becomes a Bendtner and we can't get rid cos he loves his money.

Either way, Arsenal don't come out winners

[Niall_Quinn]

The most vital thing we can do this transfer window is re-sign Wenger for another 80 years. If you multiply all that lovely cash by 80 years you get a huge amount of cash. Not enough cash by any means, but a good start.

[Niall_Quinn]

Anyone think we'll sell Kos to city now they have lost Kompany for a month? I wouldn't rule it out.

Also Ozil to Man Utd being speculated. I suppose it would be a bit much to suggest we make a bid?

[Nayan]

Anyone think we'll sell Kos to city now they have lost Kompany for a month? I wouldn't rule it out.

Also Ozil to Man Utd being speculated. I suppose it would be a bit much to suggest we make a bid?

ozil no chance. he is too good for us and it could kill ramsey

[KSE Comedy Club]

They're seriously thinking of loaning out poldi?!?!

That's it, if he goes too I've had it!

What the fuck are they smoking over there at the emirates?!?

[Cripps_orig]

Manchester United, Arsenal and Paris St-Germain all want to sign Real Madrid winger Angel Di Maria, 25. The Argentina international wants to stay and coach Carlo Ancelotti wants to keep him but Real directors believe they can raise around £34m by selling him once Tottenham forward Gareth Bale arrives. United and Spurs are also considering moves for Real's Portugal left-back Fabio Coentrao, 25.
Full story: Marca (Spanish)

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger accepts his hopes of bringing in Real Madrid's France forward Karim Benzema, 25, depend on the Spanish side signing Uruguay striker Luis Suarez, 26, from Liverpool.
Full story: The Guardian

Arsenal are set to move for Espanyol's Spanish goalkeeper Kiko Casilla, 26.
Full story: Daily Express


Di Maria won't be coming then

Or Benzema

Who?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Come on guys the Podolski story is obviously tabloid rumour BS, don't wet your pants over nothing. It's probably been floated by his agent because he's annoyed that he's barely featured in the opening two games and was overlooked for an unfit Carzola last Saturday. It's a WC year so he wants to get game time.

There's no way in hell we're getting rid of him. I can assure you of that.

[Niall_Quinn]

No decent players are coming here. It was obvious from the very start of this window but I think we find it hard to accept just how greedy and despicable the fucks running the club truly are. You think, nobody can be that greedy, it's impossible. But we'll see on 2nd September it's not only possible but inevitable with these bastards.

Every other club signing players and Wenger is still going on about it being so difficult and the season starting just now, or player wanting to know about the CL even though the spuds are signing a player a week.

[fakeyank]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/8885770/arsene-wenger-relaxed-about-transfer-target-luis-suarez-moving-to-another-club

AW must be a great comedian!

[Kano]

win a game of football, then manipulate fans optimism with transfer talk, before

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/23/karim-benzema-arsenal-arsene-wenger

and

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10261231/Its-too-late-to-sell-Luis-Suarez-now-says-Liverpool-manager-Brendan-Rodgers-as-Real-Madrid-plan-late-bid.html

ah, well at least flamini can play there

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger said: "That can happen. You've certainly tried to go out with a girl but find she has chosen someone else. You don't commit suicide.

"I don't want to speak in detail about what has happened. One day, why not?

"But now it's not the moment to talk about that. I just said it's over. We have to get on with our lives."

Karim Benzema, Angel Di Maria and Yohan Cabaye are among Arsenal's other targets, but Wenger refuses to place too much value in marquee signings.

"I can understand the interest in these types of signings, but it's five per cent of the game," Wenger added.

"For 95 per cent of the time it's something more - the spirit inside the club, the values of the club. But today you feel that it is only about that. I'm not against splashing out, but football is not only about that."

Can't wait for his book. :coffee:

As expected, not splashing out cos of some moral bs he has. Just piss off

[Özim]

Wenger is playing the fans, the man has no shame, he basically doesn't give a toss about the fans he's just stringing them along until the transfer window is over. The stuff he comes out with about 3 teams etc, you don't hear anyone come out with cr*p like this, the reason he is is because he just doesn't want to sign big players, he just wants the cheap ones......that's why he'll talk about Flamini who is a very attractive option.

Pretty sure he'll sign him, he won't be able to resist, he's so deluded he thinks this will quell the fans anger.....who knows maybe it's right the guy who was mad on Saturday was apologetic and behind him after Wednesday's match, that's how quickly football fans changed their minds.

[Globalgunner]

Looks like Victor Moses will be surplus at Chelsea. Ready made replacement for Oxo and Gervinho. Or is that too obvious for Wengersaurus.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenger is a berk, time he was gone

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger: "Fulham are a force with Berbatov & Kasami and two wingers; they'll be a creative danger. I focus on the game, not transfers."

And after this game, he will be focused on the Fener game and after that the spuds game.

We ain't getting no one in.

Wenger is a massive berk.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Stop calling Wenger a cunt please. It makes this forum look little bit Glory Glory.

[bunsco]

Yeah agree, he's becoming a bit big headed as if it would be a disaster if he left, considering he's done f*ck all and been injured most of the time it won't. In addition he's using the fact he signed a 5 year contract as proof of loyalty and then saying that he could leave if Wenger leaves...so clearly his loyalty isn't to the club.

Plus he only signed the contract to get more money anyway.

You must be really nieve if you think anyone joins us because it's 'Arsenal'. At best, players come here rightly or wrongly because it's 'Wenger's' Arsenal.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Stop calling Wenger a cunt please. It makes this forum look little bit Glory Glory.

Berk?

Surely you could've found something better than that?!

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Berk?

Surely you could've found something better than that?!

:lol:

Well that was the point tbf.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Stop calling Wenger a cunt please. It makes this forum look little bit Glory Glory.

Seen on another forum where using that term in any reference to him will result in a ban.

Most of us want him gone, yes, but really no need to be overly abusive.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Exactly. We're a lot more tolerant than other forum, regardless of what might be thought.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Well that was the point tbf.

Fair enough, but seriously, who calls anyone a 'berk' anymore :lol:

[GP]

Fair enough, but seriously, who calls anyone a 'berk' anymore :lol:

berk - berkshire hunt - cunt

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: post deleted in less than 20 seconds

GW mods :bow:

best at what they do tbh

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

A thread that could have been closed on July 1st in all honesty. If the man is prevaricating over signing Flamini on a free that what makes anyone think he can decide on players that will cost the club transfer fees

Summer Business over

[LDG]

Good win today though.

[Özim]

You must be really nieve if you think anyone joins us because it's 'Arsenal'. At best, players come here rightly or wrongly because it's 'Wenger's' Arsenal.

He came the youth setup though so it's different, he should have loyalty to the club rather than Wenger.

[KSE Comedy Club]

berk - berkshire hunt - cunt

:haha:

I see, I've never heard that slang before

[Cripps_orig]

Paris St-Germain are set to beat Arsenal to the signing of Newcastle midfielder Yohan Cabaye by offering £17m for the 27-year-old.
Full story: Metro

Karim Benzema's agent says the 25-year-old France striker will not be joining Arsenal from Real Madrid in this transfer window.
Full story: Sporting Life


2 players not coming then

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.marca.com/2013/08/25/en/football/real_madrid/1377415389.html

Marca saying we've bid €30 million for Di Maria. Although they also say we'll do the same for Michu. :wacko:

[The Ogg Monster]

Would be a decent signing. Di Maria that is. Fuck Michu, no improvement on what we have, Giroud looks the shit this season.

[KSE Comedy Club]

http://www.marca.com/2013/08/25/en/football/real_madrid/1377415389.html

Marca saying we've bid €30 million for Di Maria. Although they also say we'll do the same for Michu. :wacko:
Doesn't say we've bid, just says we're willing to pay (allegedly).

Just a figure they've plucked out of the air tbh. Probably the amount that RM are hoping to get for him.

[Marc Overmars]

Di Maria would be an awesome signing.

I'll believe it when I see it.

I actually want this to happen so I'm not going to start a thread...

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Still don't understand why this thread hasn't been closed by the Mods, all you are doing is torturing yourselves....just accept that no-one is coming in and it will make the next week or so that much more palatable.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Doesn't say we've bid, just says we're willing to pay (allegedly).

Just a figure they've plucked out of the air tbh. Probably the amount that RM are hoping to get for him.

Me. :lol:

Transfer excitement is getting the better of me. Still, I'm calling it a bid anyway. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Still don't understand why this thread hasn't been closed by the Mods, all you are doing is torturing yourselves....just accept that no-one is coming in and it will make the next week or so that much more palatable.

No it won't. It'll make it depressing.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Me. :lol:

Transfer excitement is getting the better of me. Still, I'm calling it a bid anyway. :popcorn:
Well fuck it, yeh why not. Fuck all else happening on that front tbh :)

[KSE Comedy Club]

Still don't understand why this thread hasn't been closed by the Mods, all you are doing is torturing yourselves....just accept that no-one is coming in and it will make the next week or so that much more palatable.
Rubbish

All you have to do is read twitter to find out that were getting Cesc, Rooney, Di Maria, Juan Mata and Casillas.

We're just waiting for the right moment to announce it

[Cripps_orig]

We aren't signing anyone. Wengers concentrating n the games

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

"I can deal with Despair it's the hope that kills me"

Surely it will only make it more depressing if you spend a long and frustrating week believing signings are coming in only to find out on transfer deadline day that Wenger has starched his night cap and gone to bed early.
All you need to do is listen to the post-match statements, definites are becoming possibles....this man is moving the goalposts because he has no intention of signing players....the agreement not to do so is mutually beneficial because the board want the money kept behind to make sure that come what may we are able to pay back the structured debt of 20m a year even if we have a few thin years.....and gives Wenger the chance to beef up the thin squad with youngsters so if they do work out he will look like a genius.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nah, eight days of excitement is better than a whole year of dissapointment.

Blow it all. :bow:

[KSE Comedy Club]

"I can deal with Despair it's the hope that kills me"

Surely it will only make it more depressing if you spend a long and frustrating week believing signings are coming in only to find out on transfer deadline day that Wenger has starched his night cap and gone to bed early.
All you need to do is listen to the post-match statements, definites are becoming possibles....this man is moving the goalposts because he has no intention of signing players....the agreement not to do so is mutually beneficial because the board want the money kept behind to make sure that come what may we are able to pay back the structured debt of 20m a year even if we have a few thin years.....and gives Wenger the chance to beef up the thin squad with youngsters so if they do work out he will look like a genius.

We can't possibly answer that, because if you go to the top of the Eiffel Tower..........

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Nah, eight days of excitement is better than a whole year of dissapointment.

Blow it all. :bow:

Fine don't say i didn't warn you

[The Ogg Monster]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892/transfer-zone/2013/08/23/4207215/arsenal-open-26m-di-maria-talks-but-wait-on-benzema-as-real

More spurious literature on the di maria transfer from the ever reliable goal.com

[Marc Overmars]

Chelsea in talks with Anzhi over Eto'o.

[Cripps_orig]

How good is he these days?

They'll need to sell one of Torres, Ba or Lukaku.

Time one of them came home

[GP]

:lol: isn't he about 40 now?

[Marc Overmars]

Get Lukaku tbh.

Eto'o is still probably capable of being a 1 in 2 striker but I'm sure he'll spend time out injured as well.

[Özim]

Chelsea in talks with Anzhi over Eto'o.

It takes two clubs to agree a transfers sometimes three, plus there's a lot of money and not many players, the market is in a waiting period but we are working on transfers 24 hours a day.

[Özim]

Also he's nowhere near 40, he's 32, if he's 40 Rosicky must be 41.

[GP]

Yeah, and Kanu is still 26 :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That has to be a wage cut surely? Not even Chelsea will pay 300k a week or whatever it is he's on.

[Rors]

If Eto'o is only 32, then Roger Milla really was 38 during Italia '90.. :lol:

[Özim]

If Eto'o is only 32, then Roger Milla really was 38 during Italia '90.. :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Milla

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/milla/profil/spieler_88989.html

[Rors]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Milla

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/milla/profil/spieler_88989.html

"Oh they're just facts. You can use facts to prove anything.." - Homer Simpson

[Slacker]

Eto'o's stats are amazing. Not convinced he can cut it as a starter in the Prem anymore, but as an impact player he would be capable of worrying any defence.

[Munchies]

We're being linked with Mata now.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We're being linked with Mata now.

i could give you a list of all that's wrong with that but it'd be simpler just to say no!

[Munchies]

WayneGooney saying we've tied up the Cesc deal and are waiting on Rooney:
http://waynegooney18.tumblr.com/post/59243585342/we-play-chess-not-checkers



We Play Chess Not Checkers

There have been large doses of confusion and cynicism as to how a certain transfer can be done when everything visible paints a different picture. How can the media not know? Why would other clubs protect our transfer dealings? If a contract is signed and the deal agreed, where is the player? It doesn’t make sense; it seems so ridiculous and far-fetched.

What if I told you we couldn’t announce this fabulous new player of ours because we wanted to wrap-up a deal for a major rivals’ best player? Would that make sense? Would you agree in order to pull off such a coup that we’d need to look weak and incompetent; that we’d need to look like the least dangerous destination for our rivals to send their best player? Because that’s the big picture. That’s why certain parties fed the media propaganda that made the mind boggle. That is why a wily old fox masqueraded as a senile old man for months; repeatedly saying “We have a strong team and may only add a couple of players”, even when we clearly needed to strengthen. That is why we called up youth players to fill out the team for a serious Champions League fixture instead of buying the star players the fans were crying out for.

The truth is, even though they’ve denied it, the rival team wanted to sell their player, but whilst he was happy to leave, he wouldn’t move abroad and he wouldn’t join a team outside the top four in the Premier League. So even though his fate was always sealed, the rival club had to do the unthinkable and sell to one of their rivals. Now, this situation gave us an incredible window of opportunity, but for us to make everyone green with envy by signing this princely rival, we’d have to look like the weakest opposition to our rivals’ domestic ambitions in the top four, but a signing such as our fabulous new player, would strengthen us immeasurably and blur the line between ourselves and our top four rivals.

Our plan to get around this issue was to quietly stack everything in our favour and then play possum. We had no choice. The paperwork for the transfer couldn’t be processed by either club because it would reveal the transfer to our rival; so whilst everything was agreed and signed, nothing was official and the player remained registered to his old club. From our perspective, it made more sense to give the player a solid pre-season at his old club than to have him hide away and train in secret in London. If we didn’t do that, we knew that our fabulous new signing would jeopardise our chances of procuring the rival player we wanted, because the rival player’s team did not want their player to come back to haunt them and so they would absolutely not sell to a team they thought would threaten their position domestically. And that is why our fabulous new signing has been sitting on ice; why he was overly photographed training with his old team and doing medicals, et cetera; because quite simply, that is what needed to happen to get what we wanted most from this transfer window.

All of that sounds plausible because doing that benefits us, but why would the other club ever do such a thing?

Arsenal make teams enter into a confidentiality agreement when negotiating transfers, so the player’s old team has to, legally, remain quiet and accommodate us until we can announce the deal; they cannot do anything that would reveal the transfer before we reveal the transfer. It’s that simple. On top of that, the old club want to buy a defender with the money from the transfer and can’t afford to buy without the transfer being completed, so it’s in their interest to play along.

Why would I now tell you this?

Well, amidst all of the mayhem, whilst people have lost their minds, ranted like lunatics and complained at every turn, playing possum has proven to have worked far better than anyone could have imagined and now we’re finally at checkmate.

n.b. As hard as it might be to believe all of what I’ve just said, even more unbelievable is that they might actually know what they’re doing at Arsenal after all. We’ll find out after the Fenerbache tie, I’m sure.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

WayneGooney saying we've tied up the Cesc deal and are waiting on Rooney:
http://waynegooney18.tumblr.com/post/59243585342/we-play-chess-not-checkers

10 points for effort, 0 points for style, accuracy of information and for making the crude assumption that people wouldn't remember that this was a re-hashed version of a statement he made in july

[Cripps_orig]

Cesc or Mata?

No comparison.

Mata pisses on that cunt.

Time he came home

[Marc Overmars]

Zero chance of Mata.

Chelsea wouldn't even give us Essien last year.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Cesc or Mata?

No comparison.

Mata pisses on that cunt.

Time he came home

Time people on this board came home to Earth...if that is indeed their planet of origin!

[Cripps_orig]

Mourinho would have no problem selling to a rival.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They'd rather we had Mata than Man Utd I guess.

Cesc is on his way though, Wayne Gooney guarantees it!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

They'd rather we had Mata than Man Utd I guess.

Cesc is on his way though, Wayne Gooney guarantees it!

:console:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:console:

Yeah I don't actually believe that one.

[Harland]

WayneGooney saying we've tied up the Cesc deal and are waiting on Rooney:
http://waynegooney18.tumblr.com/post/59243585342/we-play-chess-not-checkers

So this is where Ollie got his nonsense from.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yeah I don't actually believe that one.

it was more for your optimistic stance in general.....really at this stage of the transfer window there is no difference between believing a prolific liar that we are going to sign Cesc Fabregas and believing that we will make any additions full stop.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

it was more for your optimistic stance in general.....really at this stage of the transfer window there is no difference between believing a prolific liar that we are going to sign Cesc Fabregas and believing that we will make any additions full stop.

Why care? I'll end up with an optimistic stance anyway. Also, fairly sure we'll sign someone, even if he is woeful.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Why care? I'll end up with an optimistic stance anyway. Also, fairly sure we'll sign someone, even if he is woeful.

Don't see it myself...in fact i am almost certain we won't.....wenger will claim he is too busy working with the first team to devote himself to the transfer market and we aren't going to get anyone unless we pay double what they are worth and we know this club just won't do that.

[GP]

Zero chance we won't sign players.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yohan Cabaye is refusing to play for Newcastle United until his future is resolved and he will be unavailable for Alan Pardew until after transfer deadline day.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2401717/Cabaye-strike-Newcastle-midfielder-refuses-play.html#ixzz2czrzRtVL

Didn't want him in the first place.

[Cripps_orig]

Cabaye doing the same thing Cesc did.

Do we want scum like that?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Anyone that angers Pardiola is a friend of mine.

[Marc Overmars]

I'm really looking forward to the transfer muppetry for this last 7 days.

[Cripps_orig]

The last day will be crap.

Andrew Bingham or someone will go from Gillingham to Torquay and it'll be big news on SSN.

[Marc Overmars]

Jim White Day is always entertaining one way or another.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

That has to be a wage cut surely? Not even Chelsea will pay 300k a week or whatever it is he's on.
Obviously yeah but still only Chavs or Citeh are going to be able to entice him over....we wont be anywhere near the reckoning........

[Japan Shaking All Over]

They'd rather we had Mata than Man Utd I guess.Cesc is on his way though, Wayne Gooney guarantees it!

we are definitely snooping round the backalley bins for our super quality and there are a few tasty morsels to be had.......

DiMaria if Bale goes
Ben-Z but is he to be #1 at RM, again depends on the Bale transfer (RM want to get some of their money back sharpish but leaves them short) or they have a masterplan to bring in another from outside or switch it up a bit
Cabaye seems to have thrown himself out with the rubbish
Mata, seems to have no Jose love so because of our link with him before of course we are made out to be the forgiving lover!

of course all those wont happen......but i would love the RM pair or a cheeky 15 for Cabaye......Mata is quality up an unnecessary luxury! as I still think we need cover at DM and CB.....ready to run the gauntlet regarding Ches

[Slacker]

Bale to RM (obviously), Ronnie, Fellaini & Rojo to Utd, Lamela & Eriksen to Spurs, Eto'o & Modric to Chelsea, Grenier, Casilla or Viviano to Arsenal, Bendtner to stay and fight for his place as we won't sign another forward. :violin:

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-news-newcastle-tell-2222220

Newcastle supposedly want 20m for Cabaye.

[GP]

And I want to touch Jennifer Lawrence's bum.

[Marc Overmars]

And I want to touch Jennifer Lawrence's bum.

I'd pay 20m just to do that.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-news-newcastle-tell-2222220

Newcastle supposedly want 20m for Cabaye.

:haha: come now Pardy baby

[Slacker]

It's been said PSG are going to outbid us because they don't want us to have him. Chelsea did the same with Spurs with Willian. It's getting a bit daft now.

[Cripps_orig]

Why wouldn't PSG want us to have him? :blink:

[Özim]

I'd pay 20m just to do that.

What if you end up with stinky fingers?

[Slacker]

Dunno Cripps - my Bro speaks to a few people down at Arsenal as they are his client and the story goes there's some mind games going on between PSG and AW and the fact they've been onto him to go there for months and he's not interested. Seems they were expecting him to announce this would be his last season and he's stalled on that. Can never tell whether these people actually know what's going on but the same guys seemed to know RVP was off to Utd way before it happened.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Dunno Cripps - my Bro speaks to a few people down at Arsenal as they are his client .


:haha: no

[Slacker]

Dunno. Only saying what I've been told but probably easier to keep quiet as there's always someone who knows better.

[Niall_Quinn]

So when is Flamini signing on a free?

[Munchies]

So when is Flamini signing on a free?

Hopefully we'll get a few signings before the spuds game (hopefully)

[Niall_Quinn]

Hopefully we'll get a few signings before the spuds game (hopefully)

There is zero chance of it. Zero. These fuckers aren't spending one penny this summer.

[Cripps_orig]

There is zero chance of it. Zero. These fuckers aren't spending one penny this summer.

Yachts aren't free you know.

[BlindFaith_8]

As much as it pains me to say this but Tottenham own us when it comes to transfer dealings. They have made some top draw signings with the possibility of signing Hulk and Lamela and Chiriche. This puts our transfer activity to shame badly. They are not even in the champions league and they play in an smaller stadium than us but they can attract these world class players? We only dream of one world class player and they have enjoyed several so far with more to come. All we have is a freebie another possible ex player freebie and the possibility of Cabaye!Oh my days, we have gone backwards and Spurs have over taken us as the main power house and financial clout, these are very dark days for our club.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has blamed the media for "brainwashing" Gunners fans into thinking there is a crisis at the club.
Full story: Daily Mirror


Wtf?

[BlindFaith_8]

This idot should not allowed to speak to the press, he is a total embarssement to the club. He must think we are all bunch of fucking idiots.

So we beat a shite Fenerbache and a poor Fulham side and he thinks he's got a championship winning team now! Let's play Chelsea and Man U and Man City home and away and get us in to the semi finals atleast in the champions league then start to be smug, until then you have won fcuk all for 8 years coz your a has been shte manager.

[Marc Overmars]

No Arsene, the fans are concerned because we've signed no one despite having a fortune to spend. Nothing to do with the media.

[BlindFaith_8]

He should open his beedy eyes and look down the road at the team they are assembling with world class signings and more top draw players, while we have been left behind with the bargain basement. He trys to to tell us that the first thing players ask is are we in the champions league? What a stupid comment, we have been 15 seasons in a row so how come we havent attracted top class players? Heck Spurs are in the Europa League and yet they still can attract top draw players? They are spending the money and so be it the Bale money but aleast the blow is much more softer with replacing him with some excellent signings, while we look on in envy. We used to be a big club not anymore, I think it's Wenger who cannot attract top players anymore, the Cabaye thing is a french thing, we have seen so many deals fall through and I am begining to think players do not want to play for Arsenal as they know their ambition is 4th place, players to come to a club where the manager wants to win silverware and doesnt give a fcuk about clubs finances.

[GP]

Spurs haven't signed any world class players.

Ever.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Wtf?

Anyone else thinks Wenger is just as patronising and condescending as PHW?

[Globalgunner]

Anyone else think Wenger is just as patronising and condescending as PHW?

Obviously the man needs to be sectioned under the law
Public safety is at risk

[Power n Glory]

Do they refer to us as 'peasants' up there in the Emirates? That's just insulting. Wenger has lost all perception of reality.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

WUMger. :bow:

He has still got it.

[Rors]

WUMger. :bow:

He has still got it.

Surely - surely - the time is now right for him to bring out the "Yes of course, but you must remember" big gun..

:pray:

[Grebbo]

As much as it pains me to say this but Tottenham own us when it comes to transfer dealings. They have made some top draw signings with the possibility of signing Hulk and Lamela and Chiriche. This puts our transfer activity to shame badly. They are not even in the champions league and they play in an smaller stadium than us but they can attract these world class players? We only dream of one world class player and they have enjoyed several so far with more to come. All we have is a freebie another possible ex player freebie and the possibility of Cabaye!Oh my days, we have gone backwards and Spurs have over taken us as the main power house and financial clout, these are very dark days for our club.

What world class players have Spurs bought in this window?

All I know is they've lost a world class player that won them a lot of games last season. Actually, no, not a lot of games....the majority of their games. That's one big void to fill. So far they've beaten Palace and Swansea one nil with two penalties..... They're hardly ripping it up.

You mention the possibility of them signing Hulk, Lamela etc but that's just speculating. You may as well include us possibly buying Di Maria etc.

I think as it stands that Spurs certainly have a better squad than us. I don't think their first 11 is much better than ours if at all. Plus I'm convinced Arsene will buy one decent first team player for us which could make all the difference.

[The Ogg Monster]

Spurs world class?

:lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

The full wenger quote is
the media in general has brainwashed a little bit the emirates fans, maybe rightly so, I don't know, because we haven't won trophies for years, everything is negative

So the media took a quote out of context, got arsenal fans angry because they knew they would react. It's hard to argue wenger isn't right there :coffee:

[Marc Overmars]

I don't perceive the signings Sperz have made to be world class at all, Soldado is probably the closest but that's it. What they have done correctly though is invest every penny from selling Bale, Levy has the right idea and rarely allows them to stand still which can't be said of the people who run our club. We've only been a point better than them for the past 2 seasons, the margins are fine and if we don't get our act together we could easily be on the other side of that point this season.

[Cripps_orig]

The full wenger quote is

So the media took a quote out of context, got arsenal fans angry because they knew they would react. It's hard to argue wenger isn't right there :coffee:
It doesn't take the media to brainwash us to let us now that we are shit

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The man lives in a bubble, he simply cannot or will not accept that the reason the fans are angry is eight years without a trophy because of serious lack of investment in the squad and a willingness to sell our best players to rivals. Now should we expect to win trophies?...No but we should expect to compete for them when we pay one of the highest ticket prices in Europe.

It's simple enough for even a garrulous individual like me to sum it up in a paragraph

[Munchies]

The thing that the spuds have done well, is that they've realised that they were massively shit in most areas of their team last season bar Bale.

They then went out, and have effectively spent and brought in solid replacements for their shit players like Gallas/Adebayor .

So although they've now lost Bale, they're much more well rounded overall as a team. We'll see if their signings turn out to be good, but so far they're off to a winning start.

I'm hoping we can have a few new players by the time the derby starts, Flamini can do another Corluka 'foul' and injure Soldado hopefully.

[Gooner23]

The full wenger quote is

So the media took a quote out of context, got arsenal fans angry because they knew they would react. It's hard to argue wenger isn't right there :coffee:

No it isn't. He's wrong. Its patronising in the extreme to suggest that the fans have been brainwashed by the media.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Surely - surely - the time is now right for him to bring out the "Yes of course, but you must remember" big gun..

:pray:

We can but hope.

[Ollie the Optimist]

No it isn't. He's wrong. Its patronising in the extreme to suggest that the fans have been brainwashed by the media.

the fact taht so many people got angry at wenger after hearing the brainwash comment, before reading the whole quote proves his point. everyone got angry, then read it and calmed down. weneger doesnt help himself at times and shouldnt talk but the media do just cherry pick his quotes to suit their agendas. this is case and point.

[Özim]

No it isn't. He's wrong. Its patronising in the extreme to suggest that the fans have been brainwashed by the media.

We can't all be as smart as him and make great decisions like relying on Diaby every season.

[GP]

the fact taht so many people got angry at wenger after hearing the brainwash comment, before reading the whole quote proves his point. everyone got angry, then read it and calmed down. weneger doesnt help himself at times and shouldnt talk but the media do just cherry pick his quotes to suit their agendas. this is case and point.

Exactly right.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal believe they can still persuade Rooney to sign for them, with manager Arsene Wenger also keen on QPR keeper Julio Cesar.
Full story: Daily Star

Arsenal have been told they must pay £20m if they are to sign Newcastle midfielder Yohan Cabaye, 27.
Full story: Daily Mirror

The Gunners are also considering a £38m move for Real Madrid's 24-year-old midfielder Mesut Ozil.
Full story: the Sun (subscription required)


Would love all 4. No chance of any

[Özim]

The full wenger quote is

So the media took a quote out of context, got arsenal fans angry because they knew they would react. It's hard to argue wenger isn't right there :coffee:

Suggesting someone is getting brainwashed is pretty patronising in whatever context you put it in, most haven't been brainwashed they've seen the club being sh*t on the pitch and being sh*t off the pitch, it's nothing to do with the media.

Wenger loves to absolve himself of any blame, it's like he lives in a bubble where everything he does is right and every thinks what he does is right unless an external force brainwashes them into thinking otherwise.

Maybe the fans should counter his brainwash claim by telling him he's been in his own little deluded Wenger bubble for 8 years now.

[Özim]

Would love all 4. No chance of any

There's kids that still believe in Santa, doesn't mean he exists....we have no chance of getting Rooney no matter how much we believe (not so long ago he believed we could still get Suarez). If we wanted Cesar you'd think we'd have snapped him up by now, he's been available all summer.

20 million for Cabaye, move along.

We'll never get Ozil, can't see Real selling and even if they did why would he come to Arsenal, another pipedream signing....10 years ago I would have believed nowadays no way.

A week to go and we're still being linked with players we're not going to get or really don't need. How about some realistic targets for a change, ones to fill weak positions on the team.

[Globalgunner]

the fact taht so many people got angry at wenger after hearing the brainwash comment, before reading the whole quote proves his point. everyone got angry, then read it and calmed down. weneger doesnt help himself at times and shouldnt talk but the media do just cherry pick his quotes to suit their agendas. this is case and point.

The full quote you posted does nothing to dilute the statement. He still thinks the media are the caused the fans anger, not his obstinate humbug about trying to prove, he can do without improving his squad and still compete with the other teams going for the league. The man is obsessed with himself. If he does not buy anyone now, by March we will be out of all competitions and people like you will be telling us to wait till end of the season when he will definitely buy players.

[Cripps_orig]

The full quote you posted does nothing to dilute the statement. He still thinks the media are the caused the fans anger, not his obstinate humbug about trying to prove, he can do without improving his squad and still compete with the other teams going for the league. The man is obsessed with himself. If he does not buy anyone now, by March we will be out of all competitions and people like you will be telling us to wait till end of the season when he will definitely buy players.
Pretty much.

Had to laugh when Ollie pulled up the full quote and it did nothing to back him up.

[Cripps_orig]

There's kids that still believe in Santa, doesn't mean he exists....we have no chance of getting Rooney no matter how much we believe (not so long ago he believed we could still get Suarez). If we wanted Cesar you'd think we'd have snapped him up by now, he's been available all summer.

20 million for Cabaye, move along.

We'll never get Ozil, can't see Real selling and even if they did why would he come to Arsenal, another pipedream signing....10 years ago I would have believed nowadays no way.

A week to go and we're still being linked with players we're not going to get or really don't need. How about some realistic targets for a change, ones to fill weak positions on the team.
Exactly.

That's what the Spuds have done. Got realistic targets to strengthen their squad whilst we got a postman.

It's embarrassing to think that the only way we'll get top 4 this season is cos of another Spuds collapse rather than our own doing cos Spuds will not collapse one season and then we'll be fucked. This might be the season.

We need players in asap

[Niall_Quinn]

This is a language thing, he doesn't mean brainwashing in the normal, "This is the BBC", sense. He means the endless repetition of filler fluff which then finds its way into the fans' vocabulary. I'm guessing the lack of trophies is a much bigger problem for the media than the fans. From what I can tell we want to see entertaining and competitive football that warrants the very high prices being demanded. It's good though if people are angry at the suggestion they are brainwashed because it's rare to find somebody who isn't, maybe not in terms of sport but certainly in terms of news, history, etc, etc. I do hope people are as angry about that because it's much more important and really does become a matter of life and death on many occasions.

[Özim]

Exactly.

That's what the Spuds have done. Got realistic targets to strengthen their squad whilst we got a postman.

It's embarrassing to think that the only way we'll get top 4 this season is cos of another Spuds collapse rather than our own doing cos Spuds will not collapse one season and then we'll be fucked. This might be the season.

We need players in asap

Yup exactly, Spuds have signed players who will give them something extra even if they are not the very best around, let's face it that's our level now, we've let things slide for a number of years and realistically we're not going to attract the top tier of players because they want to play for clubs who have proved they are a success or who show genuine ambitions to be successful by putting their money where their mouth is.

Pretty much, Wenger is just so deluded he doesn't see what's happening in front of his eyes and still believes in this fantasy that this team is capable of challenging and winning silverware.

If he's not learnt that by now, he's never going to learn it.

[Özim]

This is a language thing, he doesn't mean brainwashing in the normal, "This is the BBC", sense. He means the endless repetition of filler fluff which then finds its way into the fans' vocabulary. I'm guessing the lack of trophies is a much bigger problem for the media than the fans. From what I can tell we want to see entertaining and competitive football that warrants the very high prices being demanded. It's good though if people are angry at the suggestion they are brainwashed because it's rare to find somebody who isn't, maybe not in terms of sport but certainly in terms of news, history, etc, etc. I do hope people are as angry about that because it's much more important and really does become a matter of life and death on many occasions.

I don't think you need to be brainwashed to realise that not winning a thing in 8 years, selling all your best players, seeing the same pattern and errors every season, not spending on quality players and settling for 4th every season is a bad thing. That's got nothing to do with the media, it's got to do with the way the club is run and managed.

I didn't need to media to tell me we were on the way down in 2007, in fact they were still claiming we were the dogs b*llocks then.

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't think you need to be brainwashed to realise that not winning a thing in 8 years, selling all your best players, seeing the same pattern and errors every season, not spending on quality players and settling for 4th every season is a bad thing. That's got nothing to do with the media, it's got to do with the way the club is run and managed.

I didn't need to media to tell me we were on the way down in 2007, in fact they were still claiming we were the dogs b*llocks then.

I'm not defending Wenger for trying to distract attention away from his own shortcomings, I'm saying he's not being quite as insulting as, say for example, the BBC is every single day.

[Xhaka Can’t]

If anything,the media ae playing catch-up with the views of the fans, and even then they are still getting it wrong.

[Ralpheroo72]

The brainwashing started with Gazidis and his 'we have 70M to spend.'

[Niall_Quinn]

If anything,the media ae playing catch-up with the views of the fans, and even then they are still getting it wrong.

Or exposing themselves as the lazy ignorant bastards they are by taking complex and diverse opinion and boiling it down to easily packaged bullshit that can be repeated time and again in virtually boilerplate articles.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We're in talks with Palace to sell Bendtner apparently.

Palace are brilliant. :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

Bendtner and Chamakh up front for Palace :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

The full wenger quote is

So the media took a quote out of context, got arsenal fans angry because they knew they would react. It's hard to argue wenger isn't right there :coffee:

He shouldn't have used the word brainwashing as that really does insult the intelligence of fans and is offensive but he is sort of correct in that the media aren't helpful in their sensationalism. One week we're in absolute crisis and after a couple of wins against some average teams we're suddenly close to winning the title with a couple of additions.


Anyway OT, I've been hearing that apparently we have agreed a fee with RM for Di Maria, just trying to convince the player to make the move now. Would be a great transfer if we pull it off. Just need to add Bender and a striker and we can salvage the summer transfer window somewhat.

[Niall_Quinn]

We're in talks with Palace to sell Bendtner apparently.

Palace are brilliant. :bow:

:pray:

Let's hope his royal highness doesn't demand a pay rise.

[Munchies]

We're in talks with Palace to sell Bendtner apparently.

Palace are brilliant. :bow:

:haha:

[AKBapologist]

Cabaye? Di Maria? Rooney?

Doubt any of them will come off tbh. Still, it's nice to dream.

[Power n Glory]

If anything,the media ae playing catch-up with the views of the fans, and even then they are still getting it wrong.

Thank you. It's taken mainstream media years to get to this point. If it wasn't for the forums, blogs, social media sites and stuff like Arsenal Fan TV, they'd have no clue about the feeling of the fans.

[Munchies]

I can see some truth in the Cesc rumblings, his new girlfriend is reportedly in London with her other children / wants to stay in London to bring up his daughter.

Then again, I'm usually a mug regarding transfers

[Cripps_orig]

Cesc, his bitch and his bitches kids can fuck off tbh

[Harland]

He shouldn't have used the word brainwashing as that really does insult the intelligence of fans and is offensive but he is sort of correct in that the media aren't helpful in their sensationalism. One week we're in absolute crisis and after a couple of wins against some average teams we're suddenly close to winning the title with a couple of additions.


Anyway OT, I've been hearing that apparently we have agreed a fee with RM for Di Maria, just trying to convince the player to make the move now. Would be a great transfer if we pull it off. Just need to add Bender and a striker and we can salvage the summer transfer window somewhat.

Why on earth would Di Maria come here?

If we had showed more intent and invested into weaker areas of the squad, I'd understand someone like Di Maria willing to come... As of now though, its really hard to see why someone would make a step down from Real to us.

[Cripps_orig]

Game time I guess especially in a World Cup season.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Why on earth would Di Maria come here?

If we had showed more intent and invested into weaker areas of the squad, I'd understand someone like Di Maria willing to come... As of now though, its really hard to see why someone would make a step down from Real to us.

why? because given who madrid have signed this summer, hes most likely dropped down the pecking order. we can offer him first team football, he owuld be pretty much a guarenteed starter, and champions league football in a world cup year.

[GP]

Also, we're The Arsenal. A massive club. And we are actually quite good sometimes.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Arsenal-no-longer-claim-to-be-big-club-if-sell-Cesc-Fabregas-and-Samir-Nasri-admits-Arsene-Wenger-article764500.html