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Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 04:59 PM
I think we'll get someone in but it's already too late.

Dicks and chicks
22-07-2013, 05:00 PM
I think we'll get someone in but it's already too late.

Baptista to make his return tbh

Munchies
22-07-2013, 05:02 PM
Waiting for the champions league money

Lol if it doesn't come

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 05:03 PM
Waiting for the champions league money

Lol if it doesn't come

What (even remotely) makes you think you're getting it?

Marc Overmars
22-07-2013, 05:05 PM
I'll be happy whenever a new player arrives, just as long it's not a last minute rummage around the bins like the horrific summer that was 2011.

Munchies
22-07-2013, 05:05 PM
What (even remotely) makes you think you're getting it?

That made me laugh , thanks :lol:

Letters
22-07-2013, 05:08 PM
I think we'll get someone in but it's already too late.
It's later than I'd like it but even if it's deadline day new players (if they're of sufficient quality) will give us a boost.
I'm clinging to the hope that with the dead wood clearing they've done they're surely, surely going to sign a couple of top players...aren't they?

:upset:

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 05:09 PM
It's later than I'd like it but even if it's deadline day new players (if they're of sufficient quality) will give us a boost.
I'm clinging to the hope that with the dead wood clearing they've done they're surely, surely going to sign a couple of top players...aren't they?

:upset:

2013 - Surely they'll sign somebody?
2012 - Surely they'll sign somebody?
2011 - Surely they'll sign somebody?
2010 - Surely they'll sign somebody?
2009 - Surely they'll sign somebody?
2008 - Surely they'll sign somebody?
2007 - Surely they'll sign somebody?
2006 - Surely they'll sign somebody?

Letters
22-07-2013, 05:11 PM
Yeah, but this time...

:sulk:



:(

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-07-2013, 05:12 PM
When are we going to sign someone half decent? Someone like Milner will also do tbf.. :(

that's just sick....you need to get out of the sun if it's doing that to your brain

Munchies
22-07-2013, 05:14 PM
The most irritating annoyance with this is that with our current squad,we're not that far off bar a few top signings like Fellaini/Higuain . We end up not signing anyone, and we tend to get further off the other teams as they end up strengthening their squads. Yes we get 4th, but surely Spurs can't fuck it up again with the signings they've made so far ?

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
22-07-2013, 05:17 PM
a team desperately in need of a striker spending 17million on a brazillian midfielder who is not as good as Gilberto Silva and some Belgian squad player.

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 05:20 PM
It's later than I'd like it but even if it's deadline day new players (if they're of sufficient quality) will give us a boost.
I'm clinging to the hope that with the dead wood clearing they've done they're surely, surely going to sign a couple of top players...aren't they?

:upset:

Probably lost a couple of games by then knowing us.

We need a boost now. A big name signing, Wenger sacked, anything will do.

Hope and arsenal don't mix

Munchies
22-07-2013, 05:25 PM
a team desperately in need of a striker spending 17million on a brazillian midfielder who is not as good as Gilberto Silva and some Belgian squad player.

A massive improvement on Shit Parker
Haven't seen the other but he's better than gervinho.

They'll get a striker sooner or later.

Marc Overmars
22-07-2013, 05:31 PM
Napoli have reached an agreement for Higuain, according to talksport.

Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 05:44 PM
Gives Madrid the funds to sign Suarez if they pull it off.

We're not signing a striker this season. Wenger will persist with Giroud.

Munchies
22-07-2013, 05:55 PM
Gives Madrid the funds to sign Suarez if they pull it off.

We're not signing a striker this season. Wenger will persist with Giroud.

Or the one-legged postie :crying:

McNamara That Ghost...
22-07-2013, 05:55 PM
It is said (by the Spanish press) that Higuain is holding out for us. :lol:

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 06:13 PM
It is said (by the Spanish press) that Higuain is holding out for us. :lol:

Not the best position to take if you want to endear yourself to the Arsenal board and manager.

Özil's Panoramic View
22-07-2013, 07:27 PM
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/223629.html#

Amazing piece.

This man should be deified. :bow:

GP
22-07-2013, 07:29 PM
What's so good about it?

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 07:30 PM
John Aldridge has sussed Wenger out

Aldridge :bow:

Great article

Shaqiri Is Boss
22-07-2013, 07:32 PM
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/223629.html#

Amazing piece.

This man should be deified. :bow:

He already is by some :cloud9:

Özim
22-07-2013, 08:10 PM
John Aldridge has sussed Wenger out

Aldridge :bow:

Great article
Yup nail on the head, that's pretty much what we do. We put in artificially low bids knowing we'll never get the player for that and that way fans (Ollie) can get the illusion that we tried our best but the selling clubs just didn't want to sell at reasonable prices.

Does anyone really believe we'd be willing to pay for Suarez and his wages, not a chance.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
22-07-2013, 08:48 PM
according to some 'reliable' brazilian news sources on twitter we've signed bernard

so thats a legless wannabe postman and a dwarf

wenger :doh:

Ollie the Optimist
22-07-2013, 08:51 PM
according to some 'reliable' brazilian news sources on twitter we've signed bernard

so thats a legless wannabe postman and a dwarf

wenger :doh:


Spent 22 million on him too.

Wenger, the master of wumming :bow:

Ollie the Optimist
22-07-2013, 08:53 PM
Yup nail on the head, that's pretty much what we do. We put in artificially low bids knowing we'll never get the player for that and that way fans (Ollie) can get the illusion that we tried our best but the selling clubs just didn't want to sell at reasonable prices.

Does anyone really believe we'd be willing to pay for Suarez and his wages, not a chance.


Don't know how many times I have to say this but if they don't spend well this summer then I won't be happy. You make it out as if I will support them if they spent a fiver all summer. I've clearly said before that if they don't spend on the quality we need I wont be happy.

Ollie the Optimist
22-07-2013, 08:53 PM
What's so good about it?

Jack Wilshire and 15 million for Suarez? :lol:

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 08:56 PM
Wilshire :bow:

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 09:01 PM
Jack Wilshire and 15 million for Suarez? :lol:

That's just Aldridge saying stupid shit because he's having kittens about Suarez leaving. We all know what the feels like, of course.

Özil's Panoramic View
22-07-2013, 09:12 PM
Jack Wilshire and 15 million for Suarez? :lol:

Suarez, valued at around £50 mil means we'd be pulling off one of the best bit of business in the history of football transfers giving them jack + £15 mil.

No doubt then that he's talking shit.

Ollie the Optimist
22-07-2013, 09:14 PM
Suarez, valued at around £50 mil means we'd be pulling off one of the best bit of business in the history of football transfers giving them jack + £15 mil.

No doubt then that he's talking shit.


Jack would leave us to go Liverpool ? Yeah he's talking shit.

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 09:16 PM
Jack would leave us to go Liverpool ? Yeah he's talking shit.

You totally missed the point of what Aldridge was saying

Ollie the Optimist
22-07-2013, 09:18 PM
You totally missed the point of what Aldridge was saying

Yeah he's talking shit about arsenal because that's the done thing in the media these days. Noones say united are derisory in their clear under value bid for fabregas. He's just taking a cheap pot shot at arsenal because it's the cool thing to do in the media

Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 09:21 PM
Cesc undervalued? Great player and would love to have him back here but £30m for a player that isn't a regular starter is good money.

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 09:21 PM
I wouldn't say he's talking shit.

He's sussed Wenger out. We've suspected Wenger of putting in shite ass bids for quality players knowing he has no chance of getting them but it would convince some fans that we are after top players and Aldridge saying what he has just shows we aren't the only ones who think that.

As for the Wilshere part, we put in a joke bid for Suarez, Aldridge was clearly talking tongue in cheek when asking for Wilshere as well

GP
22-07-2013, 09:22 PM
Yeah he's talking shit about arsenal because that's the done thing in the media these days. Noones say united are derisory in their clear under value bid for fabregas. He's just taking a cheap pot shot at arsenal because it's the cool thing to do in the media

Exactly right.

Munchies
22-07-2013, 09:23 PM
In other news, Tottenham are close to sealing a deal for Soldado for £18m

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 09:24 PM
Cesc undervalued? Great player and would love to have him back here but £30m for a player that isn't a regular starter is good money.

Exactly.

That is too much for a bench warmer

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 09:24 PM
In other news, Tottenham are close to sealing a deal for Soldado for £18m

Ffs.

4th is gone

Marc Overmars
22-07-2013, 09:24 PM
I wouldn't say he's talking shit.

He's sussed Wenger out. We've suspected Wenger of putting in shite ass bids for quality players knowing he has no chance of getting them but it would convince some fans that we are after top players and Aldridge saying what he has just shows we aren't the only ones who think that.

As for the Wilshere part, we put in a joke bid for Suarez, Aldridge was clearly talking tongue in cheek when asking for Wilshere as well

Exactly right.

Özil's Panoramic View
22-07-2013, 09:24 PM
Cesc undervalued by the mancs. :haha:

Ollie. :bow:

Ollie the Optimist
22-07-2013, 09:25 PM
Cesc undervalued? Great player and would love to have him back here but £30m for a player that isn't a regular starter is good money.

He's one of the best midfielders in the world amd united bid between 20-25 million for him. An offer that was always going to be rejected but only arsenal make derisory opening bids that will never be accepted

Özim
22-07-2013, 09:26 PM
Yeah he's talking shit about arsenal because that's the done thing in the media these days. Noones say united are derisory in their clear under value bid for fabregas. He's just taking a cheap pot shot at arsenal because it's the cool thing to do in the media
Cool thing to do in the media, really? You don't think we're becoming a bit of a laughing stock here and in Europe because of the way we conduct ourselves and our business?

We have a manager that refuses to listen to anything and won't apply the most simple of solutions to fix basic problems that have existed for years. Our season is a carbon copy of the previous one and yet no lessons are learnt. We try to buy players at knock down prices and feel justified when we don't despite these valuations being under market value.

We bring it on ourselves to be honest, if you want praise then do something to deserve it. There's such a victim mentality at this club, we're always unlucky and picked on unfairly and getting cheated by refs.

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 09:31 PM
He's one of the best midfielders in the world amd united bid between 20-25 million for him. An offer that was always going to be rejected but only arsenal make derisory opening bids that will never be accepted

He hardly plays in midfield

Power n Glory
22-07-2013, 09:39 PM
He's one of the best midfielders in the world amd united bid between 20-25 million for him. An offer that was always going to be rejected but only arsenal make derisory opening bids that will never be accepted

They've bid £30m plus extra add ons. Fantastic player but they don't need him. He's a bench player and that's a good offer. If you think Man Utd are low balling with that price, we were robbed for what we sold him for and make no mistake, they got him on the cheap from us.

Liverpool aren't as stupid and won't accept peanuts for a player that's keeping them afloat.

Özil's Panoramic View
22-07-2013, 09:41 PM
Also, why is Ollie trying to deflect from our business?

Not sure why a disinterested Aldridge would see need to pontificate on manc/barca/cesc transfer dealings.

Globalgunner
22-07-2013, 09:49 PM
Sandra Rossel has finally come out to state that Fabregas is not for sale. Hopefully that puts an end to that shift deal

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 09:54 PM
Cesc is already a ****. Moving to Man utd won't change that so makes no difference if he does or not.

We've moved on

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 10:52 PM
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is ready to test Liverpool's resolve with a £40m bid for 26-year-old striker Luis Suarez.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal are on the verge of signing Brazil international playmaker Bernard, 20, for £21m.
Full story: London's Evening Standard


No chance

Who is this guy?

fakeyank
22-07-2013, 11:16 PM
http://dailypost.com.ng/2013/07/22/suarez-very-close-to-joining-arsenal/

Anybody hear about this c*nt?

Cripps_orig
22-07-2013, 11:18 PM
http://dailypost.com.ng/2013/07/22/suarez-very-close-to-joining-arsenal/

Anybody hear about this c*nt?

I think we've all heard of Wenger.

Niall_Quinn
22-07-2013, 11:25 PM
Even if it was true, £41mill would buy us two decent strikers who could actually start the season and wouldn't bring so much baggage. What's the chances of us jumping from a £16mill record fee to £41mill plus the wages that go with it? Zero, I'd say.

bunsco
22-07-2013, 11:56 PM
this windows going to absolute shit!

even if we get suarez and bernard - we still wont have changed the lilly livered nature of the team. adding more 'ability' players without any kind of backbone whatsoever. So with everyone else improving their squads - expect more of the same this season.

:violin:

JonasTC
23-07-2013, 12:18 AM
That the media are even writting about us wanting to spend 41mil on 1 player is just ridiculous, it should be illegal to write obvious bullshit lies like that in the media.

Arsenal are notorious for not buying/spending big, are suddenly gonna spend almost triple the amount of their record signing?? BS i say. I do believe that we have more money now and we are willing to spend more, but from that to us suddenly wanting to spend like man city and PSG are just utterly bullshit from the media and it just shows that there is nothing to write about Arsenal transfers, because there is not happening anything right now.

Im afraid that wenger thinks our starting line-up is good enough and we are only going to see a couple of 10ish mil signings that may or may not be good enough to be in our starting line-up.

Seriously, which forward is available, in the range of arsenal-money that is much better than what we got? The same question with a new midfielder? (Its actually a serious question, cus i couldnt come up with any. So no Grant Holt-ish suggestions thx)

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 12:57 AM
this windows going to absolute shit!

even if we get suarez and bernard - we still wont have changed the lilly livered nature of the team. adding more 'ability' players without any kind of backbone whatsoever. So with everyone else improving their squads - expect more of the same this season.

:violin:

Are you suggesting that players with ability can't have backbone? I suppose in that case Parker has plenty of backbone, let's get him.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 01:13 AM
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a433/qwerty12343/parkerthunderbirds_zps8547f328.png

Or is it Wenger? Always get mixed up between the two.

fakeyank
23-07-2013, 02:47 AM
I think we've all heard of Wenger.

:gp:

:haha:

north bank nutter
23-07-2013, 08:17 AM
Cripps is already a ****. Moving to Man utd won't change that so makes no difference if he does or not.

We've moved on

You dont need to tell us we already know. 99% of gooners gave cesc their blessing to go to barca. As you can see on the poll most gooners want cesc back. Only a muppet like you couldnt see what he would add to the team.

Keown left and came back a better player so I would say the same definitely applies to cesc.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 08:24 AM
I am sure Cesc is eternally happy he got the blessing of arsenals greatest ever fan.

how goes the trip to Japan to see the boys?

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 11:08 AM
Valencia are saying Spuds close to signing (well meeting the buyout clause for) Soldado. :sick:

Not sure I like that much.

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:09 AM
Don't worry, we have Higuain!

Marc Overmars
23-07-2013, 11:16 AM
So all the challengers are doing what they need to do except for us.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 11:17 AM
So all the challengers are doing what they need to do except for us.

Just because everyone else can do it does not prove it can be done!

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:18 AM
So all the challengers are doing what they need to do except for us.
Yeah but:


“The competition in Europe is very hard at the moment, there’s a lot of money and not many players. We work hard but we are not close to signing anybody.”

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 11:19 AM
Sack the scouts?

Everyone else seems to be finding these players but we arent

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:21 AM
Sack the scouts?

Everyone else seems to be finding these players but we arent
Must be the only scouts in the business paid to do nothing. It seems they are only able to identify one player at a time.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 11:22 AM
Sack the scouts?

Everyone else seems to be finding these players but we arent

Other teams have no respect for the waiting period. They are scum.

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:23 AM
What's become clear is two people ran this club, David Dein and Gary Lewin.

When Lewin left our medical team went to pieces, when Dein left the club went to pieces. Fortunately we've had loads of great finance guys to keep one part of the ship pointing in the right direction.

Marc Overmars
23-07-2013, 11:30 AM
wengers handz r tied

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:34 AM
wengers handz r tied
Ollie woz rite.

The Ogg Monster
23-07-2013, 11:36 AM
Who actually wants us to spend £40m on that horrible racist **** Suarez? I wouldnt want him here for free.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 11:36 AM
According to marca, apparently bale has handed in a transfer request to force move through to Madrid. If this is true, pretty certain we can rule them out going for Suarez as they can't afford both leaving door open for us

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:39 AM
If the door is open for us, it's only so we can catch our grubby mits in it when they slam it in our face.

The Ogg Monster
23-07-2013, 11:41 AM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/328005/Arsenal-to-complete-Brazil-star-swoop-on-Friday

going purely on youtube clips that Bernard guys looks decent. I trust Wenger to sign some quality this summer.

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:41 AM
Who actually wants us to spend £40m on that horrible racist **** Suarez? I wouldnt want him here for free.
I don't think anyone has anything to worry about, because the guy is never coming to Arsenal, we won't bid anywhere near enough.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 11:43 AM
I don't think anyone has anything to worry about, because the guy is never coming to Arsenal, we won't bid anywhere near enough.

:sleep:

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:44 AM
:sleep:
Well you know what to do, stop posting cr*p about Suarez, everyone is bored of this pipedream story now.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 11:46 AM
Well you know what to do, stop posting cr*p about Suarez, everyone is bored of this pipedream story now.

Except it isn't Suarez, it's every player we are linked to who is good, you post the same boring shit about not getting them, deluded amd all that bollocks

Grebbo
23-07-2013, 11:47 AM
£41m for Suarez?? Hmm I'm not sure he's worth that. Not that we'd ever bid that much of course.

I have no idea how Liverpool managed to get Suarez to sign a contract extension not so long ago. I have no idea why Suarez signed it either. But Liverpool did a great job there of making sure they hold all the cards.

As for him being a racist wanker, I'm fine with that. He's a great player and that's all that counts. Morals left the game 100 yrs ago.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 11:48 AM
Would love Suarez here.

One of the best in the world

Will never come though.

Özim
23-07-2013, 11:48 AM
Except it isn't Suarez, it's every player we are linked to who is good, you post the same boring shit about not getting them, deluded amd all that bollocks
We can't all be as gullible as you I'm afraid.

It's pretty obvious when a story is BS, you just need to look at our transfer history and then look at the story to see if it makes sense.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 11:49 AM
Except it isn't Suarez, it's every player we are linked to who is good, you post the same boring shit about not getting them, deluded amd all that bollocks

Tbf to zim, he didn't say that about Sanogo and he is the best in the world at what he does.

LDG
23-07-2013, 11:49 AM
If we were serious about spending some money, we would have done so by now.

Letters
23-07-2013, 12:01 PM
Except it isn't Suarez, it's every player we are linked to who is good, you post the same boring shit about not getting them, deluded amd all that bollocks
To be fair, Ollie, there hasn't been any actual signings to make anyone think any different right now.
I hope it happens as much as you but until we actually SIGN a player who is any good it's all papertalk and speculation.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 12:16 PM
The lack of respect Sanogo is getting on here is disgusting

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 12:20 PM
Finally for today, fun stuff in the Spanish press. No, really, you’ll love this from AS.

Headline 1 (picture of Higuain) – Napoli and Madrid reach agreement over the Argentine. Sub-head: ‘Pipita’ will play in Italy. The player just needs to sign.

Headline 2 (picture of Suarez) – The sale of Gonzalo Higuain brings Suarez closer to Madrid. Sub-head: Luis Suarez has shown his desire to go, but Liverpool won’t let go of their star striker for a small fee.

Some might say that is putting it up to us, that the ball is in our court. But not only is the ball in our court, Madrid have sent us a telegram saying ‘Hey Arsenal, the ball is in your court’, with a diagram of a court which clearly shows which part of the court belongs to Arsenal. In that part of the court they have drawn a ball, labelled ‘the ball’, and the part of the court that is our court has an arrow going into it and on the arrow there is some text saying ‘your court’.

If only they’d tried to get that message to us in a way we might understand.

http://arseblog.com/2013/07/zelalem-shines-injuries-mount-higuain-heading-to-napoli/

Get it done FFS

IBK
23-07-2013, 12:49 PM
If we were serious about spending some money, we would have done so by now.

Agreed.

Grebbo
23-07-2013, 12:56 PM
Bidding for Suarez is just silly, he'll go to Madrid. Higuain will go to Napoli and we'll be left with Sonogo.

We all know that's what'll happen.

Pointless summer yet again.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 01:09 PM
In: Yaya Sanogo (Auxerre, Free).

Out: Vito Mannone (Sunderland, £1.5m), Martin Angha (FC Nuremburg, Undisclosed), Andrei Arshavin (Zenit St Petersburg, Free), Denilson (Sao Paulo, Free), Craig Eastmond (Colchester, Free), Kyle Ebecilio (FC Twente, Free), Elton Monteiro (Club Brugge, Free) , Sanchez Watt (Colchester, Free), Jordan Wynter (Bristol City, Free), Francis Coquelin (Frieburg, Loan), Johan Djourou (Hamburg, Loan), Reice Charles-Cook (Bury, Free), Andre Santos (Flamengo, Undisclosed)

Released: Samir Bihmoutinel, Daniel Boateng, Zach Fagan, Sead Harjovic, Conor Henderson, Jernade Meade, Nigel Neita, Josh Rees, Philip Roberts, James Shea, Sébastien Squillaci.

Just taking transfer window profits by a different route, aren't we? They can't sell Jack yet, or Oxo. Nobody wants Walcott and it would be indecent to sell Pods and Santi until next year. So where to find the cash?

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 01:13 PM
Salvio and Gaitan latest on the "ponder" list according to the Star.

LDG
23-07-2013, 01:23 PM
Salvio and Gaitan latest on the "ponder" list according to the Star.

I wonder who our PR team will "leak" next.

Joker
23-07-2013, 01:29 PM
Just taking transfer window profits by a different route, aren't we? They can't sell Jack yet, or Oxo. Nobody wants Walcott and it would be indecent to sell Pods and Santi until next year. So where to find the cash?

Why would no one want a player who scored 21 goals and made 14 assists in 43 games last season?

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 01:32 PM
I wonder who our PR team will "leak" next.

They're safe at the other side of the world until the 29th at least. Then they'll be under pressure. If they can pull this off and get to the close of the window without wasting shareholders' money on football related stuff it will be their most impressive performance yet.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 01:33 PM
Why would no one want a player who scored 21 goals and made 14 assists in 43 games last season?

He re-signed for us didn't he?

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 01:56 PM
Afc Camden saying its 9/10 Suarez to join arsenal....

LDG
23-07-2013, 01:57 PM
:haha:

GP
23-07-2013, 02:01 PM
:doh:

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 02:11 PM
Afc Camden saying its 9/10 Suarez to join arsenal....

If this doesn't put a stop to the Suarez nonsense then nothing will.

Özim
23-07-2013, 02:14 PM
He won't stop will he :lol:

LDG
23-07-2013, 02:16 PM
Tbf, this is the "speculation and shit" thread, so he's doing what it says on the tin.

I think everyone is just sick of seeing jck shit done, and therefore it's annoying more than anything to see the social media making shit up.

It's like rubbing salt in the wounds.

GP
23-07-2013, 02:17 PM
Patience.

You've seen how short of numbers the squad is. There's no way we'll not make signings.

Munchies
23-07-2013, 02:18 PM
United raising their final offer for Cesc to £35m and according to Sky Sports

Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas is considering his future with the Spanish club after Manchester United made a second bid for him.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8837093/cesc-fabregas-considering-barcelona-future-after-manchester-united-bid-say-sky-sources

GP
23-07-2013, 02:19 PM
Moyes :lol:

Bless him.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 02:30 PM
Moyes :lol:

Bless him.

This public transfer is just embarrassing. Playing the whole thing to the press with every detail. Embarrassing :lol:

Lord Nelson
23-07-2013, 02:39 PM
Tbf, this is the "speculation and shit" thread, so he's doing what it says on the tin.

I think everyone is just sick of seeing jck shit done, and therefore it's annoying more than anything to see the social media making shit up.

It's like rubbing salt in the wounds.

:gp:

We are indeed sick of it!

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 02:40 PM
This public transfer is just embarrassing. Playing the whole thing to the press with every detail. Embarrassing :lol:

Let's wait until the window closes. Because if Cesc goes for this then 100% of the embarrassment falls on our heads. All the Barca DNA, going home, loves Arsenal stuff will be exposed and we'll look pretty gullible and dim witted. If Cesc meant even a small part of what he said when he left then he cannot ever go to Utd. If he was making an arse of us then he'll soon be lining up with our other badge kissing captain. We'll see.

server too busy!
23-07-2013, 02:41 PM
Patience.

You've seen how short of numbers the squad is. There's no way we'll not make signings.

Are you Tim Payton?

Power n Glory
23-07-2013, 02:44 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8836467/gerard-pique-says-manchester-united-wasting-their-time-on-cesc-fabregas

His best buddy has spoken. Cesc isn't going anywhere.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 02:45 PM
A shame.

GP
23-07-2013, 02:46 PM
Are you Tim Payton?

Dunno, who's that?

If he's a super cool guy, then yes, yes I am.

server too busy!
23-07-2013, 02:50 PM
Dunno, who's that?

If he's a super cool guy, then yes, yes I am.

Journalist on Twitter that constantly uses the word patience in regard to our transfers.

GP
23-07-2013, 02:51 PM
Oh.

Is he super cool?

LDG
23-07-2013, 02:54 PM
Patience.

You've seen how short of numbers the squad is. There's no way we'll not make signings.

I'm patient. Just very worried.

We will make signings, it's where they come from that worries me.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 03:15 PM
Our pre-season jollies are over soon, so I guess something will happen next week or so, if not before.

Also, on Suarez. I don't reckon Real Madrid are after him, it's Bale they want.

Marc Overmars
23-07-2013, 03:17 PM
Hey Maccy, does Suarez being a piece of shit have any bearing on whether you'd like us to sign him?

GP
23-07-2013, 03:18 PM
Our pre-season jollies are over soon, so I guess something will happen next week or so, if not before.

Also, on Suarez. I don't reckon Real Madrid are after him, it's Bale they want.

I agree. Higuain to Napoli, Bale to Madrid.

Spurs fans are going mental about it. Apparently Spurs and Madrid signed some sort of partnership as part of the Modric transfer. Spurs fans thought that meant they wouldn't go for Bale.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 03:32 PM
Hey Maccy, does Suarez being a piece of shit have any bearing on whether you'd like us to sign him?

Well, I don't particularly like the idea of cheering for him because he is an absolute scrote but then I don't particularly like our options if we don't do anything. Tough call. In terms of pure footballing ability I could see why we would want him, he has elbows like Bergkamp too I suppose.

Also GP, I think the partnership between Tottenham and Real Madrid goes like this: we'll give you money, in exchange for your best players.

Özim
23-07-2013, 03:37 PM
Tbf, this is the "speculation and shit" thread, so he's doing what it says on the tin.

I think everyone is just sick of seeing jck shit done, and therefore it's annoying more than anything to see the social media making shit up.

It's like rubbing salt in the wounds.
Yeah to be honest though, this Suarez thing is never going to happen it's pretty obvious. The money involved is just not something we'd entertain, they can't write about it over and over again it doesn't change the fact that we won't pay 40+ million + 150k-250k wages for any player, as someone mentioned that's almost 3 times our transfer record and that's without even factoring in wages.

Letters
23-07-2013, 03:47 PM
He won't stop will he :lol:
Probably been listening to this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpHjukQowZ0

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
23-07-2013, 04:30 PM
That hideous little girl is right

milla
23-07-2013, 04:33 PM
Probably been listening to this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpHjukQowZ0

That is one fekin annoying video.. :coffee:

Letters
23-07-2013, 04:38 PM
That is one fekin annoying video.. :coffee:
That is one fekin annoying smiley

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
23-07-2013, 04:39 PM
It is, it was created for the benefit of Nelsen Mandela.....and it's sheer objectionable quality is causing him to show "sustained improvement".

Shame there isn't "sustained improvement" in our transfer dealings.....last summer was going great until RVP and now we are back to dithering.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
23-07-2013, 04:40 PM
That is one fekin annoying smiley

yeah what's with that....it's either an infuriating attempt at nonchalance or you must have a severe caffeine addiction.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 04:41 PM
Probably been listening to this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpHjukQowZ0

Anyone know how to auto-replay a YouTube vid?

Also, which artery do you cut in the wrist if you want to bleed to death? Apparently if you cut the wrong one you might survive.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
23-07-2013, 04:45 PM
Anyone know how to auto-replay a YouTube vid?

Also, which artery do you cut in the wrist if you want to bleed to death? Apparently if you cut the wrong one you might survive.

That sounds complicated.....you just want to keep it simple like dropping a toaster into a bath.....even if the wiring is faulty chances are your fucked.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 04:48 PM
That sounds complicated.....you just want to keep it simple like dropping a toaster into a bath.....even if the wiring is faulty chances are your fucked.

LOL, not me! I was going to force the parents to watch that on a loop and then make the whole thing look like suicide.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
23-07-2013, 04:56 PM
LOL, not me! I was going to force the parents to watch that on a loop and then make the whole thing look like suicide.

Oh right...well something to bear in mind anyway just in case your having a bad day at some point...

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 05:18 PM
Oh right...well something to bear in mind anyway just in case your having a bad day at some point...

When the transfer window SLAMS SHUT!

Özil's Panoramic View
23-07-2013, 05:49 PM
That hideous little girl is right

harsh on hideous little girls, tbh.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 06:11 PM
Have we signed anyone yet?

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 06:25 PM
Mail now reporting that we have offered Liverpool 42 million pounds. 35 up front, 7 in add ons.

That's a serious offer if true, and to me it's not a we tried bid to appease fans, it's a we want him badly bid. 42 million? Jeez that's a lot

GP
23-07-2013, 06:27 PM
You know it's real because it's on goal.com as well.

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 06:51 PM
tribalfootball have just confirmed a double swoop for Suarez and Biglia.

Dicks and chicks
23-07-2013, 06:57 PM
Mail now reporting that we have offered Liverpool 42 million pounds. 35 up front, 7 in add ons.

That's a serious offer if true, and to me it's not a we tried bid to appease fans, it's a we want him badly bid. 42 million? Jeez that's a lot

were else are we gonna get a proven striker from? only ones left are suarez, Rooney and higuain. Higuain's odds of joining napoli have been slashed to 1/7 which indicate theres a huge chance of him going there. Rooney will go to chelsea. Only other proven alternative is jackson martinez but porto have already sold 2 players for a ridiculous sum of money already this season

Shaqiri Is Boss
23-07-2013, 07:00 PM
If you're going to buy him can you hurry up and get on with it. If only to end this tiresome charade.

Marc Overmars
23-07-2013, 07:09 PM
He'd be more hated than ever if he joined us, would certainly be the most difficult player Wenget has handled. Total loose cannon.

GP
23-07-2013, 07:27 PM
Wenger won't take his shit.

He'll eat him up like motherfuckin frogs legs.

Dennis Bendtner
23-07-2013, 07:27 PM
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68908000/jpg/_68908314_68907829.jpg

Villas-Boas comes out with some weird stuff.


"He's a player that we are willing to continue to have."

:unsure:

Dennis Bendtner
23-07-2013, 07:29 PM
If you're going to buy him can you hurry up and get on with it. If only to end this tiresome charade.

May as well drag it out to deadline day. The hungry **** is of no use to anyone for a while.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 07:29 PM
If you're going to buy him can you hurry up and get on with it. If only to end this tiresome charade.

This.

Time Suarez came home.

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 07:30 PM
He'd be more hated than ever if he joined us, would certainly be the most difficult player Wenget has handled. Total loose cannon.

That's kind of why I want him tbf. Just to see Suarez Is Boss Liverpool fans and the likes of Thompson, Aldridge and Hansen literally crying. Having a loon in the squad after years of Wenfer flailing with nice guys would also be morbidly fascinating. It's a potential shake-up of the perception of Arsenal on and off the field and even if it ends in glorious disaster, it has to be better than being perennial slaves to principle and polite walkovers.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 07:30 PM
He'd be more hated than ever if he joined us, would certainly be the most difficult player Wenget has handled. Total loose cannon.
If Wenger can't handle Suarez then there's only be thing Wenger can do tbh

Resign.

Suarez is far more importnt

fakeyank
23-07-2013, 07:32 PM
If Wenger can't handle Suarez then there's only be thing Wenger can do tbh

Resign.

Suarez is far more importnt

:gp:

Wenger needs to be shot in the dick

Shaqiri Is Boss
23-07-2013, 07:33 PM
That's kind of why I want him tbf. Just to see Suarez Is Boss Liverpool fans and the likes of Thompson, Aldridge and Hansen literally crying. Having a loon in the squad after years of Wenfer flailing with nice guys would also be morbidly fascinating. It's a potential shake-up of the perception of Arsenal on and off the field and even if it ends in glorious disaster, it has to be better than being perennial slaves to principle and polite walkovers.

I won't be crying tbf. I got over him leaving months ago, whether that be through him being too good for us or doing something off-the-scale-mental. My one hope is that we get decent money for him.

And it's not like Arsenal haven't had their fair share of arseholes in the past. Tony Adams actually went to prison, for one.

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 07:33 PM
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68908000/jpg/_68908314_68907829.jpg

Villas-Boas comes out with some weird stuff.



:unsure:

He's like Wenget. But with only the gobbledygook and none of the funny.

GP
23-07-2013, 07:34 PM
I won't be crying tbf. I got over him leaving months ago, whether that be through him being too good for us or doing something off-the-scale-mental. My one hope is that we get decent money for him.

And it's not like Arsenal haven't had their fair share of arseholes in the past. Tony Adams actually went to prison, for one.

Tony Adams was a saint. A SAINT!!! :angry:

Arsehole now, mind.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 07:35 PM
Is the remaining 6 games of Suarezs ban just league games?

He'll play in the CL qualifiers won't he?

Özil's Panoramic View
23-07-2013, 07:37 PM
If Wenger can't handle Suarez then there's only be thing Wenger can do tbh

Resign.

Suarez is far more importnt

:rimshot:

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 07:38 PM
I won't be crying tbf. I got over him leaving months ago.

And it's not like Arsenal haven't had their fair share of arseholes in the past. Tony Adams actually went to prison, for one.

That's why I crossed you out.

Arsenal of recent past has had RVC and Cisc as their **** contingent. Prickly at times, but hardly world-class bastardry. We now have Theo. Or maybe Szczesny. ****s needed ASAP.

Grebbo
23-07-2013, 07:38 PM
He'd be more hated than ever if he joined us, would certainly be the most difficult player Wenget has handled. Total loose cannon.I don't think he'd be difficult to manage tbh. He's supposedly the model pro, trains hard, works hard on the pitch just sometimes is a wanker on the pitch. If by some miracle we sign Suarez and a couple of others we'd actually have a pretty damn good squad, something which would help Suarez. At Liverpool he pretty much has to win games on his own, maybe with better players around him he'd be less of a nutter.Anyway I hope we sign him. £42m is an awful lot and he's going to have to hit the ground running that's for sure.

Grebbo
23-07-2013, 07:39 PM
That's why I crossed you out.

Arsenal of recent past has had RVC and Cisc as their **** contingent. Prickly at times, but hardly world-class bastardry. We now have Theo. Or maybe Szczesny. ****s needed ASAP.

Yep, you can't win anything without ****s

GP
23-07-2013, 07:41 PM
You don't win friends with salad.

Marc Overmars
23-07-2013, 07:53 PM
That's kind of why I want him tbf. Just to see Suarez Is Boss Liverpool fans and the likes of Thompson, Aldridge and Hansen literally crying. Having a loon in the squad after years of Wenfer flailing with nice guys would also be morbidly fascinating. It's a potential shake-up of the perception of Arsenal on and off the field and even if it ends in glorious disaster, it has to be better than being perennial slaves to principle and polite walkovers.

Pretty much.

It's time for him to come home.

Harland
23-07-2013, 07:53 PM
You don't win friends with salad.
Not unless they are tossers.

GP
23-07-2013, 07:55 PM
Not unless they are tossers.

You can just give them a dressing down.

Özim
23-07-2013, 07:55 PM
42 million :lol:

When do we meet Santa, the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy, I want to have some serious words with them?

Dennis Bendtner
23-07-2013, 07:58 PM
I don't think he'd be difficult to manage tbh. He's supposedly the model pro, trains hard, works hard on the pitch just sometimes is a wanker on the pitch. If by some miracle we sign Suarez and a couple of others we'd actually have a pretty damn good squad, something which would help Suarez. At Liverpool he pretty much has to win games on his own, maybe with better players around him he'd be less of a nutter.Anyway I hope we sign him. £42m is an awful lot and he's going to have to hit the ground running that's for sure.

Footballistically he's fine but the issue is his dickheadery directly affecting how useful he is. I mean he's banned right now :lol: weirdo. And that's two long, specific bans in a couple of years. I don't think he's ever been banned for the other narky stampy stuff either. He also has to know that Wenger won't be wearing a t-shirt for him when said dickheadery comes to the fore. It's a lot of money and it's risky. He is a very good player though, in terms of being able to score and create.

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 07:59 PM
When do we meet Santa, the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy, I want to have some serious words with them?

You'll meet them outside the bottle bank on Sesame or Coronation Street in 1992/93.

GP
23-07-2013, 08:03 PM
:lol:

GP
23-07-2013, 08:03 PM
Also, the Tooth Fairy is conducting his medical.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 08:14 PM
http://www.empowernetwork.com/paulhutchings/files/2012/12/the-rock.jpg

Özim
23-07-2013, 08:20 PM
You'll meet them outside the bottle bank on Sesame or Coronation Street in 1992/93.
Where do I get the time machine and how do I travel to 2 different years at the same time?

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Where do I get the time machine and how do I travel to 2 different years at the same time?

You just need £7.5m.

fakeyank
23-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Where do I get the time machine and how do I travel to 2 different years at the same time?

You need to be little bit in the waiting period and then you will be 2% away from the time machine.

Özim
23-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Also how do I avoid running into Big Bird?

Özim
23-07-2013, 08:24 PM
You just need £7.5m.
and what do I do with it once I have it?

Özim
23-07-2013, 08:26 PM
You need to be little bit in the waiting period and then you will be 2% away from the time machine.
What if I lack a little bit of sharpness and end up scuffing the time machine?

Özim
23-07-2013, 08:27 PM
You just need £7.5m.
I'm only willing to pay 500k but I'm serious about getting it though?

LDG
23-07-2013, 08:32 PM
:ilt:

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
23-07-2013, 08:42 PM
tribalfootball have just confirmed a double swoop for Suarez and Biglia.

the same Biglia who joined Lazio three weeks ago?

Xhaka Can’t
23-07-2013, 08:45 PM
I'm only willing to pay 500k but I'm serious about getting it though?


I doubt you'll ever be getting it.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 08:45 PM
guardian tomorrow are running that we bid 40 million and liverpool have allowed us to talk with suarez but rejected the offer.

also they said we bid £40 million and £1 :lol:

edit: apparently we bid the £1 because it takes us over the 40 million and means liverpool have to allow us to talk to them. brilliant.

but this now brings player power into play. suarez decides he wants to leave and join us, liverpool wont get the 55 million they want, but closer to 40 i think.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 08:52 PM
Who weighed in with the extra pound? Can't be Arshavin anymore.

Wahey!

AKBapologist
23-07-2013, 08:52 PM
It was 1 pence, not pound!

£40,000,000.01

You should know better that we'd never spend a pound when a penny will do! :lol:

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 08:53 PM
It was 1 pence, not pound!

£40,000,000.01

You should know better that we'd never spend a pound when a penny will do! :lol:

really? from the picture of their back page, its not very clear, but im certain it says they bid £40 million and £1

Shaqiri Is Boss
23-07-2013, 08:55 PM
I'm not really sure this changes anything whatsoever, other than it allows the story to rumble on and take "another fascinating twist in this saga".

You'll have already been indirectly talking to his agent anyway, so it's not like you wouldn't already know if he wants to join you.

Marc Overmars
23-07-2013, 08:56 PM
We'll get him on deadline day tbf.

GP
23-07-2013, 08:56 PM
I'm not really sure this changes anything whatsoever, other than it allows the story to rumble on and take "another fascinating twist in this saga".

You'll have already been indirectly talking to his agent anyway, so it's not like you wouldn't already know if he wants to join you.

If it's any consolation, I know exactly how you feel.

GP
23-07-2013, 08:56 PM
We'll get him on deadline tbf.

That's fine.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 08:57 PM
I'm not really sure this changes anything whatsoever, other than it allows the story to rumble on and take "another fascinating twist in this saga".

You'll have already been indirectly talking to his agent anyway, so it's not like you wouldn't already know if he wants to join you.

thats a fair point but no one seems to know what this 40 million pound clause is. ive read that suarezs people beleive its a release clause, liverpool say its that they have to alert him of the other teams bid but dont have to accept it

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 08:58 PM
If it's any consolation, I know exactly how you feel.

have to admit, its kind of nice that for once the long running transfer sagas are about us buying a player instead of selling

AKBapologist
23-07-2013, 09:00 PM
really? from the picture of their back page, its not very clear, but im certain it says they bid £40 million and £1

So it was one pound and not one pence over the £40m. My mistake.

Özil's Panoramic View
23-07-2013, 09:00 PM
how many days exactly of this unbearably torturous summer transfer window are left?

much prefer to be watching Ramsey's little flicks and chips, than having to read the tabloid BS rumours daily.

come on new season. :pray:

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:02 PM
how many days exactly of this unbearably torturous summer transfer window are left?

much prefer to be watching Ramsey's little flicks and chips, than having to read the tabloid BS rumours daily.

come on new season. :pray:

september 2nd i think is when the window closes but in 25 days the new season starts so we can moan about something else then instead ;)

AKBapologist
23-07-2013, 09:12 PM
@bbcsport_david - Spoke to Suarez camp on Mon - wants & expects to be at a CL club next season. #Afc interest him but other options, in no rush to decide #lfc


Basically he's waiting for a bid from Marketing.

:coffee:

GP
23-07-2013, 09:16 PM
Which isn't coming.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:17 PM
@bbcsport_david - Spoke to Suarez camp on Mon - wants & expects to be at a CL club next season. #Afc interest him but other options, in no rush to decide #lfc


Basically he's waiting for a bid from Marketing.

:coffee:

guess that explains the £1 add on then, means we can talk to him officially and have more time to convince him while sorting out hte funds for transfer

Özim
23-07-2013, 09:22 PM
I doubt you'll ever be getting it.
Really, how would you know?

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 09:26 PM
Ornstein hasn't exactly been proven to be reliable, regardless of who he works for. Or maybe especially due to he works for. :ninja:

Özim
23-07-2013, 09:27 PM
thats a fair point but no one seems to know what this 40 million pound clause is. ive read that suarezs people beleive its a release clause, liverpool say its that they have to alert him of the other teams bid but dont have to accept it
The people involved in setting up this supposed clause aren't sure what it is? I've heard it all now :lol:

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:28 PM
Ornstein hasn't exactly been proven to be reliable, regardless of who he works for. Or maybe especially due to he works for. :ninja:

hes just arsenals mouth piece isnt he? just says what the press officer wants him to say. dont think he has got any exclusives as such

Özim
23-07-2013, 09:29 PM
guardian tomorrow are running that we bid 40 million and liverpool have allowed us to talk with suarez but rejected the offer.

also they said we bid £40 million and £1 :lol:

edit: apparently we bid the £1 because it takes us over the 40 million and means liverpool have to allow us to talk to them. brilliant.

but this now brings player power into play. suarez decides he wants to leave and join us, liverpool wont get the 55 million they want, but closer to 40 i think.
I'd thought we'd bid 42 million? Did we change our mind and retract the bid and bid 40 million and 1 pound instead?

Marc Overmars
23-07-2013, 09:30 PM
I'm going to convince myself we're signing him.

Dennis Bendtner
23-07-2013, 09:31 PM
£1 is a lot of money. Arsenal would probably let you talk to Bendtner.

Özim
23-07-2013, 09:31 PM
I'm going to convince myself we're signing him.
Speak to Ollie he'll help you convince yourself, he's the go to man when it comes to Suarez.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 09:31 PM
hes just arsenals mouth piece isnt he? just says what the press officer wants him to say. dont think he has got any exclusives as such

He does talk about other players, like Benteke to Tottenham for instance. :lol:

Özim
23-07-2013, 09:32 PM
He does talk about other players, like Benteke to Tottenham for instance. :lol:
A man with credentials to back up his stories, I like it :lol:

Özil's Panoramic View
23-07-2013, 09:33 PM
He does talk about other players, like Benteke to Tottenham for instance. :lol:

Spurs. :haha:

Benteke. :bow:

Undoubtedly a Gooner of some sort.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:35 PM
Speak to Ollie he'll help you convince yourself, he's the go to man when it comes to Suarez.


ive never said that we will sign him. ive just used him as examples when talking about players or just posted what the media are saying because funnily enough if they are saying we bid for him then its arsenal news and worth talking about.

Özim
23-07-2013, 09:37 PM
ive never said that we will sign him. ive just used him as examples when talking about players or just posted what the media are saying because funnily enough if they are saying we bid for him then its arsenal news and worth talking about.
Yeah trouble is there's a new BS story every single day, they found something to talk about and have got their teeth round it and won't let go. First we bid 30 million, then it's 35, then it's 42 and now it 40 million and 1 pound. Oh and Liverpool want 55 million but don't want to sell him but might.

Oh and we'd have to pay him 250k a week. Assuming we sign him up for 5 years for example that's a 105 million pound deal at least.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:37 PM
the one thing i dont understand about this clause and being able to talk to the bidding club. why would you do that? bidding club bids 40 million, player talks to them and agrees terms, sets heart on move to bidding club. selling club say well we only said you could talk to him, we still want 55 million. bidding club says no. selling club have a pissed off player who wants to leave being made to stay at a club. it makes no sense, everyone loses

Özil's Panoramic View
23-07-2013, 09:41 PM
the one thing i dont understand about this clause and being able to talk to the bidding club. why would you do that? bidding club bids 40 million, player talks to them and agrees terms, sets heart on move to bidding club. selling club say well we only said you could talk to him, we still want 55 million. bidding club says no. selling club have a pissed off player who wants to leave being made to stay at a club. it makes no sense, everyone loses

think you might finally be onto something here.

AKBapologist
23-07-2013, 09:42 PM
Read the guardian article on the matter. The deal is if Suarez wanted a move, there could be messy legal ramifications if the £40m bid wasn't accepted.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:43 PM
think you might finally be onto something here.

but this clause is there according to all reports ive seen, tahts why we bid the £1 extra. its either meaning he can talk to us or its actually his release clause.

but also reading further times reporters etc tonight, liverpool are allowing us to talk to him. why do that if you reject the bid?

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:45 PM
Yeah trouble is there's a new BS story every single day, they found something to talk about and have got their teeth round it and won't let go. First we bid 30 million, then it's 35, then it's 42 and now it 40 million and 1 pound. Oh and Liverpool want 55 million but don't want to sell him but might.

Oh and we'd have to pay him 250k a week. Assuming we sign him up for 5 years for example that's a 105 million pound deal at least.


140k apparently. cant see him agreeing to five years nor us offering it because of his reputation. 3/4 years max id say

GP
23-07-2013, 09:47 PM
140k apparently. cant see him agreeing to five years nor us offering it because of his reputation. 3/4 years max id say

At £40m, you'd better believe it's at least 5 years.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 09:47 PM
It's on!

Dennis Bendtner
23-07-2013, 09:48 PM
In summary, the newspapers are guessing the nature of this 'clause':

1) Suarez is allowed to talk to Arsenal (pretty fucking expensive conversation)
2) Suarez must be told about the bid (pretty fucking expensive statement of the obvious)
3) Santa Claus (doesn't fucking exist)

Shaqiri Is Boss
23-07-2013, 09:49 PM
So basically, after all of this, no one has the faintest clue what is going on.

LDG
23-07-2013, 09:50 PM
How many goals does Suarez get anyway. Every time I've watched him, he misses sitters.

GP
23-07-2013, 09:50 PM
How many goals does Suarez get anyway. Every time I've watched him, he misses sitters.

We also have Theo who can miss there.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 09:51 PM
The bid, made by Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis during a telephone conversation with Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre at the club’s Melbourne training base, was swiftly rejected by the Merseysiders, who remain insistent that Suárez will not be sold this summer.
Having signed a £100,000-a-week four-year deal at Liverpool last summer, Suárez’s advisor, Pere Guardiola, negotiated a clause in the 26-year-old’s contract which entitled the player to be informed of any future bid in excess of £40 million for him.
While the player’s camp may yet choose to interpret the clause as enabling Suárez to leave Liverpool should a bid greater than £40 million be received, the club remain insistent that the only obligation on their part is to relay information of any offer to Suárez, who is due to play against Melbourne Victory on Wednesday.
Suárez trained with his team-mates in front of 15,000 spectators at the Melbourne Cricket Ground last night before being informed of Arsenal’s latest bid - the London’s club’s third offer, having lodged bids of £25 million and £35 million in the past month.

this is from the telegraph tonight. that clause makes no sense what so ever unless its a release clause

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 09:52 PM
How many goals does Suarez get anyway. Every time I've watched him, he misses sitters.

30 last season. They tend to be stunners when he does score, he does miss many an easy opportunity though. In truth it's more his dribbling ability I think is swaying us, not neccesarily his goal output.

AKBapologist
23-07-2013, 09:54 PM
Trust wenger to bid on someone with a none release release clause.

LDG
23-07-2013, 09:59 PM
30 last season. They tend to be stunners when he does score, he does miss many an easy opportunity though. In truth it's more his dribbling ability I think is swaying us, not neccesarily his goal output.

:good:

I wonder if we're still playing poker with Madrid for Higuain.

Just can't see Wenfer blowing 40mil+ on one player.

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 10:00 PM
Who are Liverpool going to replace Arsenal-bound Suarez with?

Darren Bent?

Defoe?

Sordell?

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 10:01 PM
:good:

I wonder if we're still playing poker with Madrid for Higuain.

Just can't see Wenfer blowing 40mil+ on one player.

I wouldn't have thought so, an extra pound to allow him to speak to us does sound like a very Arsenal thing to do.

Liverpool could do a lot of things with that extra quid.

LDG
23-07-2013, 10:02 PM
Who are Liverpool going to replace Arsenal-bound Suarez with?

Darren Bent?

Defoe?

Sordell?

Good point. All this talk about waiting til the end of the window is bullshit.

Surely they'd need to replace him, meaning a deal needs to be done before.

Dennis Bendtner
23-07-2013, 10:02 PM
this is from the telegraph tonight. that clause makes no sense what so ever unless its a release clause

Great clause. :lol:

Is Suarez that repulsed by the English media that he feels he can't pick up a newspaper and find out for himself?

My guess would be some sort of gentleman's agreement when he signed a new contract that means nothing in reality.

Ollie the Optimist
23-07-2013, 10:04 PM
:good:

I wonder if we're still playing poker with Madrid for Higuain.

Just can't see Wenfer blowing 40mil+ on one player.


i could for the sake of a few million extra. if its true that madrid wanted closer to 40 million for higauin, and apparently his wages would be around 130k a week, then i could see wenger paying an extra 10/20k a week (depending on which reports you read) and an extra 2-5 million for suarez. more as a fuck you to madrid too. this whole thing is confusing though. and im not even that happy we are going all out for suarez :S nice to see we are making big bids for once though

Shaqiri Is Boss
23-07-2013, 10:04 PM
No wonder you've been trying your luck...

Ladies and Gentleman, our Chief Executive Ian Ayre, and Robbie Fowler.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BP4lAJdCUAAfnyv.jpg

Dennis Bendtner
23-07-2013, 10:05 PM
There was some talk of Liverpool making an offer for Soldado

GP
23-07-2013, 10:07 PM
£1 is a lot of money. Arsenal would probably let you talk to Bendtner.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BP4zPGLCQAA2P4e.png

AKBapologist
23-07-2013, 10:12 PM
"@OsmanZtheGooner: Suarez’s advisors have been asked to stall any negotiations until the Madrid can make their own formal approach to Liverpool. [Mirror]"

LDG
23-07-2013, 10:13 PM
:haha:

Xhaka Can’t
23-07-2013, 10:14 PM
Arsenal cou;ld cash in twice on Cesc if they do a deal with United not to block their bid.

LDG
23-07-2013, 10:17 PM
We'll finish off just perfect.

Half the winnings for Cesc, engineered bids for two big names knowing full well they'll go elsewhere, sold off our deadwood and not spent anything.

We will spend in January, if we find top top quality.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 10:18 PM
Could we not just be twats ourselves and put a £15m bid in for Cazorla or Wilshire? Then up to £16m....publicly say we rate them and we are heavily negotiating and we want the player etc. Unsettle their players.....fucking bellends. Not won a trophy in almost a decade and they want to take our best player?

2 can play at that game Mr Wenger http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/Smileys/default/swanker.gif

RAWK is funny.

www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=306277.2840

GP
23-07-2013, 10:20 PM
RAWK is funny.

www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=306277.2840

I do find it funny that Liverpool fans of all people feel they can play the trophy drought card.

Shaqiri Is Boss
23-07-2013, 10:22 PM
There was some talk of Liverpool making an offer for Soldado

If that happened... http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/girlsrgamers2/Fry-WigOut.gif

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 10:23 PM
If that happened... http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/girlsrgamers2/Fry-WigOut.gif

If that happened...

Spuds. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 10:34 PM
If only we can somehow get Tony Evans in a room with Suarez to explain him whats more important : the glory after two cup runs or CL.

:lol:

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 10:38 PM
Just read about the suarez stuff.

So from what I understand, this clause only means Liverpool have to consider the bid but not accept it. So basically Its like any bid.

Stupidest clause ever?

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 10:43 PM
Not if it means Suarez can talk to the bidding club. Ordinarily a fee has to be agreed for that to happen (officially) but not on this occasion. It might not achieve anything but it means a player could be certified in their belief that is they want to go as they will know what they are being offered.

Niall_Quinn
23-07-2013, 10:51 PM
So this deal could go right up to the window and the collapse under a legal avalanche? Fucking clever. Suarez, the one player we could pick that guarantees the money never has to leave the wallet. In this light the ridiculous bids makes sense. First bid was to upset Liverpool so fake negotiations start on the sourest possible note. Second, get the lawyers limbering up. We could easily string this right out to September and even come out the other side looking like the innocent party. Magnificent stuff, these guys are simply the best at what they do.

Now if they could get rid of Cazorla through some unfortunate twist of pre-planned events completely beyond their control - or is that too much?

GP
23-07-2013, 10:55 PM
Ahahah fake bids so they don't have to pay hahahahahaha you haven't mentioned that before.

Cripps_orig
23-07-2013, 11:11 PM
Benfica want 40m euros (£34m) for winger Eduardo Salvio, 23, as they attempt to ward off interest from Arsenal, Manchester City and Tottenham.
Full story: Daily Express


Who?

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
23-07-2013, 11:25 PM
So this deal could go right up to the window and the collapse under a legal avalanche? Fucking clever. Suarez, the one player we could pick that guarantees the money never has to leave the wallet. In this light the ridiculous bids makes sense. First bid was to upset Liverpool so fake negotiations start on the sourest possible note. Second, get the lawyers limbering up. We could easily string this right out to September and even come out the other side looking like the innocent party. Magnificent stuff, these guys are simply the best at what they do.

Now if they could get rid of Cazorla through some unfortunate twist of pre-planned events completely beyond their control - or is that too much?

spot on.

Japan Shaking All Over
23-07-2013, 11:34 PM
Utd fans somehow got over it when Silvestre switched sides.

Good for them cos we're still not.....

Japan Shaking All Over
23-07-2013, 11:38 PM
7pm

clashes with In the Night Garden.......

Master Splinter
23-07-2013, 11:41 PM
Its simply their scared and want to weaken us.


Strengthening a rival for top 4 while weakening? Madness.

Scared :lol:.

Top 4 rival :lol:.


RAWK would be wiped from existence if we signed Suarez.

McNamara That Ghost...
23-07-2013, 11:44 PM
Yeah it's why we're not bidding for any other player, Liverpool are the ones to look out for.

I want us to give the £1 with the Wenget trollface embossed on it.

McNamara That Ghost...
24-07-2013, 12:03 AM
How much is Wilshere on? Should offer him a better contract than he is currently on, to fuck with Arsenal

:blink:

Niall_Quinn
24-07-2013, 12:06 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2375580/Arsene-Wengers-Arsenal-dream-team-includes-Luis-Suarez-Cesc-Fabregas-Marouane-Fellaini.html?ico=sport^headlines

I'm applying for a job as a sports writer. It's easy, just make shit up every day and get to go to all the matches for free.

LDG
24-07-2013, 06:11 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2375580/Arsene-Wengers-Arsenal-dream-team-includes-Luis-Suarez-Cesc-Fabregas-Marouane-Fellaini.html?ico=sport^headlines

I'm applying for a job as a sports writer. It's easy, just make shit up every day and get to go to all the matches for free.

:lol:

That really is awful.

The article, as well as your face.

Xhaka Can’t
24-07-2013, 06:19 AM
How much is Wilshere on? Should offer him a better contract than he is currently on, to fuck with Arsenal


:blink:


Ollie sure seems to have a lot of Liverpool supporting relatives.

KSE Comedy Club
24-07-2013, 06:46 AM
So we've offered £40m and £1 for Suarez and pool said no.

Right then, stop fucking about and offer Madrid £30m for higuain and be done with it.

Munchies
24-07-2013, 07:17 AM
Surprised Wenger added a pound to make it go over 40 , a penny would have sufficed :lol:

And the Yank Liverpool owner put this out :

What do you think they're smoking over there at Emirates?