Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[Dicks and chicks]

AVB declining to talk about Bale
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8838713/tottenham-boss-andre-villas-boas-has-no-further-news-on-gareth-bale

Move to Real on ?

If he was staying, he'd have come out and say by now.

he's gone , suarez is coming home

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

He was alright but ultimately he's not good enough

I disagree entirely....i think he's a great shot stopper and over the cause of the last two and a half seasons has helped us get points in loads of games.

Cesar is ok but he's spent an entire season picking the ball out of the net for a relegated club

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

he's gone , suarez is coming home

No he's not...he left home....he got a flight from Montevideo on Monday

[Cripps_orig]

I disagree entirely....i think he's a great shot stopper and over the cause of the last two and a half seasons has helped us get points in loads of games.

Cesar is ok but he's spent an entire season picking the ball out of the net for a relegated club
Really? I think he's been error prone and a bit shit. His attitude stinks, woeful at long shots and free kicks and basically not very good.

Cesar is better, done it all whilst at Inter, no idea why he joined QPR but can't r blamed for them going down.

[GP]

http://i.imgur.com/l1Tl2e2.png

[JonasTC]

I really want Luis Suarez ! I dont get it why so many people hate on him, yes he have bitten a guy (twice) and done some crazy shit, but he's a winner with big W and he seems like a pretty cool dude when i've seen interviews with him and the fact that he makes fun of himself in that new commercial make me think he is awesome >_<.... I can find videos of messi doing headbuts, christiano elbowing/breaking noses and they're diving even more, so i think its unfair with all this hatred towards suarez, and yes im comparing him to those 2, he is doing 20+ goals a season for a half-shit team in the best league in the world, i have no doubt he would do 35+ in a shit league with some of the best players in the world around him. (plus he has a much better goal scoring ratio for his national team than those two).

[Munchies]

All of Suarez's goals last season:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daGcbBFvAEI

[Cripps_orig]

I really want Luis Suarez ! I dont get it why so many people hate on him, yes he have bitten a guy (twice) and done some crazy shit, but he's a winner with big W and he seems like a pretty cool dude when i've seen interviews with him and the fact that he makes fun of himself in that new commercial make me think he is awesome >_<.... I can find videos of messi doing headbuts, christiano elbowing/breaking noses and they're diving even more, so i think its unfair with all this hatred towards suarez, and yes im comparing him to those 2, he is doing 20+ goals a season for a half-shit team in the best league in the world, i have no doubt he would do 35+ in a shit league with some of the best players in the world around him. (plus he has a much better goal scoring ratio for his national team than those two).
This

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Something I think everyone here has forgotten.

I can't wait to see Wenger in a Suarez t shirt. It'll be beautiful.

[Lord Nelson]

Something I think everyone here has forgotten.

I can't wait to see Wenger in a Suarez t shirt. It'll be beautiful.

Signing Suarez is a big mistake ! Spending 40m on one player is a waste! We have many positions that need strengthening! Not just a striker! We have fucked up big time letting Higuin go to Napoli! We need David Dein back to look after signings.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Higuain went for 30 odd million or something. :lol:

[Kano]

napoli now ahead of us in the pecking order :lol:

[Gooner23]

Why the fuck didn't we just stump up the money for Higuain. Cheaper than Suarez and none of the baggage. If pool refuse to sell at 40 mil no way will we (or should we for that matter) offer more.

We really are a strange club.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why the fuck didn't we just stump up the money for Higuain. Cheaper than Suarez and none of the baggage. If pool refuse to sell at 40 mil no way will we (or should we for that matter) offer more.

We really are a strange club.

Profitable too.

[Niall_Quinn]

Have we signed anyone yet?

[Munchies]

Have we signed anyone yet?

LDG posted this a few days ago

http://havearsenalspentanymoneyyet.com/

[Niall_Quinn]

LDG posted this a few days ago

http://havearsenalspentanymoneyyet.com/

Yes but I'm looking for a second opinion.

[Power n Glory]

Let's hope Madrid don't swoop in for Suarez. We need to tie this deal up quickly.

[Niall_Quinn]

New Nigerian signing :woohoo:

http://news.arseblog.com/2013/07/arsenal-sign-second-banking-sponsor/

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

New Nigerian signing :woohoo:

http://news.arseblog.com/2013/07/arsenal-sign-second-banking-sponsor/

DEAR MR ARSENE WENGER,

I KNOW IT WILL SURPRISE YOU TO RECIEVE THIS COMMUNICATION.

I AM DR. KWAZEE GYAN, CHEIF CHAIRMAN OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ENGLAND.

I CONTACT YOU FOR VERY SPECIAL OFFER REGARDING MR LUIS ALBERTO SUAREZ DIAZ. HE AVAILABLE FOR JUST £40000002 (FOUR MILLION AND TWO POUND). WITH JUST A £2M DEPOSIT HE COULD BE YOURS SOON SIR.

SIMPLY DESPOSIT TWO MILLION POUNDS BRITISH STERLING INTO NIGERIAN NATIONAL BANK FOR SPECIAL QUICK DELIVARY OF MR LUIS ALBERTO SUAREZ DIAZ. ALL INFORMATION WILL BE KEPT VERY CONFIDENTIAL WITHIN THE RULES FOR DELIVERY IN YOUR BLESSED COUNTRY.

I AWAIT YOUR FUNDS SO WE CAN PROCESS QUICKLY TO DELIVER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YOURS FAITHFULY:

DR. KWAZEE GYAN.

[Niall_Quinn]

DEAR MR ARSENE WENGER,

I KNOW IT WILL SURPRISE YOU TO RECIEVE THIS COMMUNICATION.

I AM DR. KWAZEE GYAN, CHEIF CHAIRMAN OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ENGLAND.

I CONTACT YOU FOR VERY SPECIAL OFFER REGARDING MR LUIS ALBERTO SUAREZ DIAZ. HE AVAILABLE FOR JUST £40000002 (FOUR MILLION AND TWO POUND). WITH JUST A £2M DEPOSIT HE COULD BE YOURS SOON SIR.

SIMPLY DESPOSIT TWO MILLION POUNDS BRITISH STERLING INTO NIGERIAN NATIONAL BANK FOR SPECIAL QUICK DELIVARY OF MR LUIS ALBERTO SUAREZ DIAZ. ALL INFORMATION WILL BE KEPT VERY CONFIDENTIAL WITHIN THE RULES FOR DELIVERY IN YOUR BLESSED COUNTRY.

I AWAIT YOUR FUNDS SO WE CAN PROCESS QUICKLY TO DELIVER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YOURS FAITHFULY:

DR. KWAZEE GYAN.

Damn, that's some fine sleuthing!

[JonasTC]

I read that Liverpool might be in for Soldado, maybe they're already planning on what to use the 40mil on? :)

[Özim]

I've read a lot of things, so far none have come true.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I read that Liverpool might be in for Soldado, maybe they're already planning on what to use the 40mil on? :)

And Suarez will be planning what kind of property he will be buying in Madrid

[Özim]

DEAR MR ARSENE WENGER,

I KNOW IT WILL SURPRISE YOU TO RECIEVE THIS COMMUNICATION.

I AM DR. KWAZEE GYAN, CHEIF CHAIRMAN OF LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ENGLAND.

I CONTACT YOU FOR VERY SPECIAL OFFER REGARDING MR LUIS ALBERTO SUAREZ DIAZ. HE AVAILABLE FOR JUST £40000002 (FOUR MILLION AND TWO POUND). WITH JUST A £2M DEPOSIT HE COULD BE YOURS SOON SIR.

SIMPLY DESPOSIT TWO MILLION POUNDS BRITISH STERLING INTO NIGERIAN NATIONAL BANK FOR SPECIAL QUICK DELIVARY OF MR LUIS ALBERTO SUAREZ DIAZ. ALL INFORMATION WILL BE KEPT VERY CONFIDENTIAL WITHIN THE RULES FOR DELIVERY IN YOUR BLESSED COUNTRY.

I AWAIT YOUR FUNDS SO WE CAN PROCESS QUICKLY TO DELIVER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YOURS FAITHFULY:

DR. KWAZEE GYAN.
:lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Valencia will not let defender Adil Rami, 27, leave for anything less than £7.75m. The Frenchman is wanted by both Manchester City and Arsenal.
Full story: Marca (in Spanish)

Seems a decent price for a quality CB.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Seems a decent price for a quality CB.

this

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

would love suarez

he's a c*nt but he's our c*nt

would take us back to the days of being hated aka the invincibles era

we were mean, bad and the foreign dirty wankers

time to regain status

[Özil's Panoramic View]

would love suarez

he's a c*nt but he's our c*nt

would take us back to the days of being hated aka the invincibles era

we were mean, bad and the foreign dirty wankers

time to regain status

but we're a classy club.

[Master Splinter]

And Suarez will be planning what kind of property he will be buying in Madrid

Robbie Fowler gave him some good tips tbf.

[bunsco]

Really? I think he's been error prone and a bit shit. His attitude stinks, woeful at long shots and free kicks and basically not very good.

Cesar is better, done it all whilst at Inter, no idea why he joined QPR but can't r blamed for them going down.

:gp:

[Dicks and chicks]

anyone see richards as a good signing? guy is arsenal through and through

[Dicks and chicks]

i would much rather spunk out £35mil on stephen el shaarwy

[Grebbo]

I think Richards would be a decent buy.

[Dicks and chicks]

I think Richards would be a decent buy.

thanks for agreeing with me i appreciate it

[server too busy!]

el shaarwy would be a good purchase and probably doable if we don't get Suarez, rumours Milan were not against selling him for the right price.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Richards has more muscle than ability and that's why he keeps breaking down. No thanks.

[Grebbo]

Richards has more muscle than ability and that's why he keeps breaking down. No thanks.

Wenger will get him right.

[Dicks and chicks]

el shaarwy would be a good purchase and probably doable if we don't get Suarez, rumours Milan were not against selling him for the right price.

has more years on the clock as well also milan are broke

[Ollie the Optimist]

el shaarwy would be a good purchase and probably doable if we don't get Suarez, rumours Milan were not against selling him for the right price.


They wanted more then 30 million I think. Rememeber reading something like that

[Dicks and chicks]

They wanted more then 30 million I think. Rememeber reading something like that

we have the money
he's much younger than suarez more potential
won't miss first 6 games of the season
has great hair

make him come home wenger

[Cripps_orig]

I've woke up to the acceptance that e aren't getting anyone in this summer.

Just start the season and let the slaughter commence

[I_Killed_Kenny]

reports say cardiff have agreed an 8m fee for etienne capoue but he is holding out for a bigger club.

wasnt he one we were linked with loads as well. 8m fee, gotta snap that up surely!

[Ralpheroo72]

Arry :haha:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11709/8839728/transfer-news-norwich-agree-fee-with-celtic-for-gary-hooper-after-qpr-links

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Redknapp had said: "It looks like it's on its way to being done. Negotiations have gone well.

"He's a finisher. He'll score goals in the Championship; I'm absolutely certain of that.

:haha:

Also, https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/1069347_578350248890561_1148215465_n.jpg

[LDG]

:lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Harry :haha:

[GP]

http://i.imgur.com/YC97g.jpg

[Cripps_orig]

Manchester United have not given up on their efforts to sign Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas.
United have failed with two bids for the former Arsenal player, the latest of which is understood to be £30m plus add-ons.
But David Moyes has confirmed he is still targeting the 26-year-old as his first capture since taking over as manager at Old Trafford.
He told a news conference in Osaka that "things are ongoing".


Barca should sell

[Ollie the Optimist]

Barca should sell


this public pursuit of fabregas via SSN from united is just so cringeworthy and embarrassing :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Gervinho in talks with Roma. :lol:

[LDG]

Gervinho in talks with Roma. :lol:

Roma :rose:

[Özim]

Barca should sell
The new pub teamer in charge might want to keep him?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Gervinho in talks with Roma. :lol:

Stick the fee on the Suarez offer and we'll probably accept.

[Cripps_orig]

Stick the fee on the Suarez offer and we'll probably accept.

So £40m and £2 then?

[Cripps_orig]

The new pub teamer in charge might want to keep him?

Messi is their manager tbh. This pubber was brought in to please him

[Kano]

Stick the fee on the Suarez offer and we'll probably accept.
you're right but ain't gonna happen.

we either break the current domestic record or come very close, or jog on.

[Cripps_orig]

Valencia have softened their stance regarding Adil Rami and are now open to cashing in on the Arsenal target for around £9m.
The centre-back, who joined in 2011, is said to be keen on leaving Valencia this summer in search of a new challenge.
Arsenal, with Thomas Vermaelen set to miss the start of the season, are reportedly keen on Rami.
Valencia have always signalled their intention not to sell the France international but manager Miroslav Dukic is now ready to listen to offers.
The 27-year-old has also been linked with Manchester City, while Juventus are also thought to be tracking him.



Read more: http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130725/valencia-want-%C2%A39million-arsenal-target-202372#ixzz2a3dYWjUw
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Get him in

[Dicks and chicks]

Stick the fee on the Suarez offer and we'll probably accept.
we will pay you £40million and 2 pounds to take him off us

[Cripps_orig]

Liverpool are ready to snatch Roberto Soldado from Tottenham's grasp.
Spurs have been in talks with Valencia about the striker, but talkSPORT understands their director of football Franco Baldini has returned to London from Spain having failed to agree a deal.
Andre Villas-Boas turned his attention to the Spain international following the failure to land Aston Villa striker Christian Benteke, who signed a new deal at Villa Park last week.
The north London club are understood to have offered Valencia £24million, but that’s still short of the £26m buy-out clause in Soldado's contract and the La Liga side are refusing to budge.
That has opened the door for Liverpool, with Brendan Rodgers keen to take Soldado to Anfield as doubts surround the future of Luis Suarez.
Liverpool are believed to be willing to pay the £26m Valencia are demanding for the 28-year-old as Rodgers looks to continue his rebuilding job at Anfield this summer.


Read more: http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130723/liverpool-set-beat-tottenham-%C2%A326m-soldado-202236#ixzz2a3f7NOeP
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Suarez is coming home

[Dicks and chicks]

Get him in

GOOD SIGNING AND WILL STRNEGTHEN US

[Cripps_orig]

GOOD SIGNING AND WILL STRNEGTHEN US

What did you say on the arsenal shit 11 thread?

You quoted my post but I can't go on the thread to read it

[cricketsi]

Get him in

French CB from Spanish side? Can't be anything but amazing :bow:

[server too busy!]

Just like Squillaci

[Munchies]

Toulouse chairman Olivier Sadran has reportedly told the French press that they have accepted a £8.6million offer from Cardiff City for Etienne Capoue.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11809/8839842/transfer-news-toulouse-reveal-cardiff-are-leading-etienne-capoue-chase

Lol

Gonalons
Fellaini
Kongdobia
Capoue

All 3 of those are the other CDM's we've been linked with so far now.

[Munchies]

Cesc Fabregas has told friends in England that he wants to quit Barcelona for Manchester United. [Mail]

Fucking Bellend if so

[Ollie the Optimist]

Cesc Fabregas has told friends in England that he wants to quit Barcelona for Manchester United. [Mail]

Fucking Bellend if so


:haha: the paper says "cesc reveals he'd love to join moyes"

funny every time i read it :haha:


also the same paper said thiago had agreed personal terms with united, they never even spoke to him

[Ollie the Optimist]

i also find it very funny how the media are so desperate for moyes to get fabregas and for us not to get suarez.

they are hating every minute of this and now are just making up shit.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The media has always been United biased but i think the anti-Arsenal sentiments seem to go back to 2007, i think the media enjoyed a very close relationship with David Dein and since we got rid of him we have been more tight-lipped than Johnny Tight Lips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIGUu0bvpMQ

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XMpjWxsPXOE/hqdefault.jpg

[Cripps_orig]

Liverpool have made Valencia striker Roberto Soldado their main target as they look to replace Luis Suarez. Tottenham have had a £22m offer for the 28-year-old Spain international rejected and Valencia want to sell Soldado for £26m by 3 August for tax purposes.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers says Suarez's desire to join Arsenal "does not add up" and that he is already at a bigger club than the Gunners.
Full story: Daily Telegraph


We might Suarez before 3rd August.

Bigger club? Cos of what Liverpool did 30 years ago?

[Master Splinter]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-news-olivier-giroud-2089070

Giroud :bow:.

[GP]

What a cool dude.

[Master Splinter]

What a cool dude.

That's not gay, Pete.

[LDG]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfer-news-olivier-giroud-2089070

Giroud :bow:.

Isn't that a picture of Jenks they've used? :lol:

:unsure:

[KSE Comedy Club]

We might Suarez before 3rd August.

Bigger club? Cos of what Liverpool did 30 years ago?

Brendan Rodgers can suck donkey cock.

[LDG]

Brendan Rodgers can suck donkey cock.

With the size of his lips, I should imagine he already does.

[Master Splinter]

Hooper signs for Norwich:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23450297

Crooknapp :haha:.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Hooper signs for Norwich:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Harries

Crooknapp :haha:.

:lol: Arry :pal:


Wait, what?

[Master Splinter]

:lol: Arry :pal:


Wait, what?

Motherfucker. You always get in there before the edits.

[LDG]

:haha: :haha:

[Master Splinter]

That bitch will be trending on Twitter thanks to me now.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

http://www.playingdeadthecomic.com/comics/2013-02-26-splinter.jpg


MS :rose:

[Gooner23]

From Arseblog: AW "We are ready to do quick deals but all the transfers do not depend only on us, but we are prepared to wait. It looks unlikely before the Emirates Cup. We still have a strong squad but we are there on the market to try to strengthen our team. With or without additions we can be title challengers next season."

I know a lot of what he says should be taken with a huge pinch of salt, but I do worry he genuinely believes that last bit.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

From Arseblog: AW "We are ready to do quick deals but all the transfers do not depend only on us, but we are prepared to wait. It looks unlikely before the Emirates Cup. We still have a strong squad but we are there on the market to try to strengthen our team. With or without additions we can be title challengers next season."

I know a lot of what he says should be taken with a huge pinch of salt, but I do worry he genuinely believes that last bit.

He's hardly going to say "with Ramsey anywhere near the first XI.....Relegation is as much of a possibility as anything....but because we are totally shit when it comes to transfer negotiations our well has dried up!"

[Power n Glory]

Just reading Arseblog now and Wenger's comments are a massive worry. This will go down to deadline day and we might as well flip coin on signings if it comes down to that.

[Niall_Quinn]

The club has done a massive number on the fans this year. We've gone from wanting a few solid signings to people actually talking about 2-3 club record signings in one window. We've picked the very hardest transfer to pursue. Incompetence? Genius? All that's left is to somehow paint the club as a victim in all this, I'm sure they can do it. I think they want Suarez but they also want to put Liverpool over a barrel. I guess they are hoping the situation gets desperate for them as the window close approaches, they will need to find a replacement in case Suarez starts his antics. For a squad already packed with talent this would be okay, take it or leave it works. But for our squad that desperately needs reinforcements it's a potential disaster. The chances of signing Suarez were always low. But we can say look, we were prepared to spend the British transfer record. We wanted to move fast. But it is everyone else's fault we couldn't sign anyone. There is always January, we will spend big in January...

[Özim]

So the excuses begin to surface, we've had plenty of time to deal with transfers any normal club would have been able to get players in by now in our situation.

I'm with NQ they're doing a number on the fans just like they do every summer, this Suarez deal has got a lot of things which don't make sense and they don't make sense because we're not fully committed to it IMO and that's down to the fact it's probably a ploy to make it look like we've tried hard but that sometimes sh*t happens.

We've seen all the "Jovetic Arsenal bound", "Higuain on his way to Arsenal", "Wenger swoops for Cesar" and "Bernard close to Arsenal move" BS and now it's focussed on Suarez. Being a big name we can drag this out for quite a while.

Very worrying indeed.

[Munchies]

Fuck off Wenger, just bid the £50m, fuck off after you do so.

Getting sick of this really, I've genuinely got excited when we 'activated' Fellaini's contract, but we're probably not even going to get anyone good.

2-3 top players away from challenging, if not, same shit different year continues.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

You silly muppets. :lol: You all should know by now that Wenger saying we're not close to signing anyone can only mean Suarez is coming home. :patrice:

[Marc Overmars]

Newcastle have made a loan offer for Remy and also bid for Gomis. :lol:

Continuing their French only policy then.

[Maestro]

:tumbleweed: 4590 posts later plus the Higuain, Suarez & Bernard threads ......you have to hand it to Wumger & Arsenal

[LDG]

I might as well get pissed then.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

we need sharia law tbf. put wenget into a burka. give him a ray-gun. chop his hands off for robbery.

solves all the problems. muslamics :bow:

[Gooner23]

He's hardly going to say "with Ramsey anywhere near the first XI.....Relegation is as much of a possibility as anything....but because we are totally shit when it comes to transfer negotiations our well has dried up!"

Didn't say he should say that.

[LDG]

Sanogo :bow:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Didn't say he should say that.

Well i'd rather he did....that'd be the truth at least

[Gooner23]

Well i'd rather he did....that'd be the truth at least

That was kinda my point. If he genuinely believes we are strong enough to compete as it stands its litte bit scary.

In the old days what he said and what he actually did were definitely two diffferent things. But the trend in recent times hasn't been that at all. If he says we're not close to signing anyone, its probably the truth.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That was kinda my point. If he genuinely believes we are strong enough to compete as it stands its litte bit scary.

In the old days what he said and what he actually did were definitely two diffferent things. But the trend in recent times hasn't been that at all. If he says we're not close to signing anyone, its probably the truth.

Part of what he says alludes to the situation in France where both PSG and Monaco have turned the value of what a decent player is worth on it's head....i.e signing Edinson Cavani for 54.5million.

I don't see that the board are just being tight because they can't personally stand to profit from our lack of spending....so it leaves two conclusions that the money isn't there at all and i don't think that's the case. Or that it's improving near on impossible to sign decent players for anything less than silly money.

Look at Higuain, he's a player that was desperate to leave the club yet Real Madrid still managed to get 40 million euros from Napoli for him.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think Wenger is also very stubborn, it''s either the players he has targeted or no-one.....but don't get me wrong if the Champions of England are having trouble strengthening than it only stands to reason that we would as well....and to be fair our pre-season has gone a lot better than ours (although still leaves me worrying very much about our central midfield).

[Niall_Quinn]

Businessmen don't look at sport that way. They'll see 4th place as huge, worth millions. So when Wenger says we can still compete with the squad we have he may be saying we can still get 4th and get the millions. And with the sponsorship deals flowing and the money piling up what's not to love if you are an investor who got in relatively cheap and has a desperate buyer lined up and waiting? Not spending still gets them what they want.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think Wenger is also very stubborn, it''s either the players he has targeted or no-one.....but don't get me wrong if the Champions of England are having trouble strengthening than it only stands to reason that we would as well....and to be fair our pre-season has gone a lot better than ours (although still leaves me worrying very much about our central midfield).

They have Moyes. That was always going to kill them.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

To be fair even Chelsea have only been able to spend modestly by their standards....a dutch prospect from Vitesse Arnheim, Mark Schwarzer on a free and Andre Schurle who was already in the pipeline before Mourinho came back.
Man City are the only club that have been able to strengthen and that's because they have been willing to spend the same silly money on players that PSG and Monaco are.
How even in this day and age is a 28 year old from Shatkah Donetsk worth anywhere near 30million?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And look at Spurs?....Paulinho who could be good, could be rubbish....cost them near on 20million and Nacer Chadli who is a Belgian squad player.....truth is the market has become so inflated by these super rich clubs that it is pricing everyone out. Don't get me wrong i think Wenger and the club have been weak with their transfer negotiations and seem not to be going for it with any conviction. I think the board knows this current squad is going to be challenged for a top 4 berth season in, season out......so you'd think even if 4th was the sum of their ambition they'd be happy to invest more to make sure of it.....rather than taking a money saving risk option when we know that at heart they are cautious in the extreme.

[Niall_Quinn]

Just saying, the goals of rich people differ dramatically from the goals of poor people.

[Özim]

There are no excuses, I don't give a f*ck what BS they come out with, there's no excuses. You have plenty of time to plan and can if you choose to try and get these deals completed early on, we've dragged our feet and it's almost August an f*ck all has been signed.

It's not down to anything but poor planning and incompetence and greed, we can't keep listening to this BS every summer.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

All i'm saying is that if their goal was purely money (and not to say it isn't) you'd be more likely to tap into wide wide revenue as well as corporate sponsorship by being in a position to challenge not only for 4th place but for trophies as well, and by creating name recognition brand in the squad who play for us.
I think the board are largely incompitent leaving most of the day to day running to people like Ivan Gazidis (with all the spam e-mails, would you trust your money with a Nigerian Bank?) and Wenger who has more power at the club than any other manager has at their respective clubs. Wenger is a prevaricator, on one hand he knows that even the hard core faithful of fans are not happy with the current situation (and even with revenue from other avenues, it won't look good for the club's image to have half empty stadium on match days which is what it will come to if this trend continues) on the other hand he is loathe to spend money because he believes football and the transfer market is a false economy.....as well as knowing that if he does spend money and is unable to produce silverware his protective vaneer is gone.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

There are no excuses, I don't give a f*ck what BS they come out with, there's no excuses. You have plenty of time to plan and can if you choose to try and get these deals completed early on, we've dragged our feet and it's almost August an f*ck all has been signed.

It's not down to anything but poor planning and incompetence and greed, we can't keep listening to this BS every summer.

Agree with the poor planning and incompitence bit.

[Dicks and chicks]

fuck this shit

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

fuck this shit

hang in there, take some imodium

[Niall_Quinn]

Cazorla claiming he wants to stay at Arsenal. Bit selfish really, ruins our transfer window.

[Ralpheroo72]

hang in there, take some imodium
We've signed Immodium!!!! :bow:

[fakeyank]

There are no excuses, I don't give a f*ck what BS they come out with, there's no excuses. You have plenty of time to plan and can if you choose to try and get these deals completed early on, we've dragged our feet and it's almost August an f*ck all has been signed.

It's not down to anything but poor planning and incompetence and greed, we can't keep listening to this BS every summer.

:gp:

It's like the club literally took a holiday after their successful last season.. they just got back to work on 1 July and it took them a couple of weeks to get off vacation mode. It's only now they are gearing up to do any business, but right now, the excuses are already out as to why we cannot meet our goals next season. I have had c*nts like that at work.. they do not stay on long if I am managing them. Seems like at Arsenal, they are rewarded. :rolleyes:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

"without additions we can be title challengers next season" :haha:

Please tell me our Lord & Saviour was misquoted here.

[Özim]

"without additions we can be title challengers next season" :haha:

Please tell me our Lord & Saviour was misquoted here.
No we really are 2% away from domination. We're just in a waiting period anyway but even if we don't win the title we can win the 4th place major trophy.

[LDG]

No we really are 2% away from domination. We're just in a waiting period anyway but even if we don't win the title we can win the 4th place major trophy.

Source?

[Özim]

Source?

http://www.arsenal.com/Wenger/WaitingPeriod/2percent.htm (http://www.heinz.co.uk/media/4437/End_Of_HP_Ad.jpg)

[Cripps_orig]

Just read Wengers comments. Surely that's a sacking offence?

[Özil's Panoramic View]

"@RafaelH117: BREAKING: Soldado has been sold to Tottenham for 30m euros, breaking the club's transfer record."

Any truth to this Tweet?

[Munchies]

"@RafaelH117: BREAKING: Soldado has been sold to Tottenham for 30m euros, breaking the club's transfer record."

Any truth to this Tweet?

Probably, Levy does spend money

Keep monkey, and 4th is gone

[Cripps_orig]

Twitter :haha:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Twitter :haha:

Just when we thought nothing could be worse than goal.com.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Joel Campbell is going on loan to olympiacos this season.

Another waste of money :coffee:

[Munchies]

What about signing this guy ?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/27/article-2380122-1B062D84000005DC-166_306x500.jpg

[KSE Comedy Club]

All he needs is a chocolate dildo in his hand to complete the look

[Cripps_orig]

Zlatan would be awesome

[Munchies]

I reckon we could get him , they bought him for around £15m, and there are reports that he may leave now Cavani is going to be top dog there.

[Munchies]

Rather get Suarez though

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Just when we thought nothing could be worse than goal.com.

yeah but i have 4500 followers on twitter, how many have you got?

[selassie]

You silly muppets. :lol: You all should know by now that Wenger saying we're not close to signing anyone can only mean Suarez is coming home. :patrice:

Or that we're not close to signing anyone? The key point in all of these deals are that we must be prepared to pay what the selling club want, that's how transfers work. So far, we've haggled and dithered with Fellaini even though he clearly has a release clause, the Suarez situation isn't quite as simple but the bottomline is if we don't up our offer he doesn't come here.

[PGFC]

Just when we thought nothing could be worse than goal.com.


yeah but i have 4500 followers on twitter, how many have you got?

:haha:

:handbags:

[Özim]

So have we signed those half dozen players Ollie said we would be signing yet?

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

the only half thing we've signed is a one-legged wannabe postman.

[fakeyank]

So have we signed those half dozen players Ollie said we would be signing yet?

Ollie is Wenger :lol:

[Globalgunner]

Wenger or his caramel coloured reggae babe. No one loves Arsene more than ollie

[kas]

Just heard that 'Coentrao & Di Maria' will be part of the Bale move to Madrid & Valencia have a cheap replacement for Soldado.
If Spuds have Paulinho, Di Maria, Soldado & Coentrao added to their squad. Well nuff said

[GP]

Why would do Maria want to go to spurs?

[Cripps_orig]

Just heard that 'Coentrao & Di Maria' will be part of the Bale move to Madrid & Valencia have a cheap replacement for Soldado.
If Spuds have Paulinho, Di Maria, Soldado & Coentrao added to their squad. Well nuff said

4th is theirs

[Rors]

Di Maria and Coentrao* to Spurs? Yeah. I have a bridge I can sell you.

* - never quite seen the appeal myself, but even so.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Makeweights. :lol:

Yes I am sure they'll jump at the chance to drop out of playing in the Champions League.

[GP]

In reality, how often do these swap deals happen?

[Grebbo]

Nothing is going to make up for them losing Bale, he carried them more than RVP carried us.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

In reality, how often do these swap deals happen?

Not very. There's us and Cole/Gallas, Zlatan and Eto'o (Barca :doh:). Not sure about many others, I guess you could say Reyes and Baps but they were loans.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Not very. There's us and Cole/Gallas, Zlatan and Eto'o (Barca :doh:). Not sure about many others, I guess you could say Reyes and Baps but they were loans.

Owen and Nunez :ilt:

They happen quite often with Italian clubs. I'm sure all above board...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nunez is a Champions League winner tbf.

Owen. :haha:

[Rors]

Baros/Carew

That worked out okay enough...!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

London Evening Standard is reporting that we have shown interest in Fulham Striker Ronald Rooke, as well as having a keen eye for goal he is a qualified RAF pilot

[fakeyank]

I keep coming back to this thread to read something about our transfers and this is just super depressing... post twitter updates FFS!! Cant take this waiting period anymore..

[Rors]

If you saw some of the horror-show 'ITK' utterances on Twitter, you would think twice about requesting them, believe me...

[Rors]

Just for a laugh, here is one from ten minutes ago. Amazed the user in question hasn't been banned..

"just seen remy at Heathrow dropping off a friend for a flight. Asked him about Newcastle but he just ignored me! 👍 "

Convenient ignoring there :whistle:. Although understandable...

[Rors]

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/RorsDM/ITK.jpg :blink:

[LDG]

I keep coming back to this thread to read something about our transfers and this is just super depressing... post twitter updates FFS!! Cant take this waiting period anymore..

And that is why they cam continue to mug us off every year, because like it or loathe it, we keep coming back to get arse-fucked every fucking season.

[Master Splinter]

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/RorsDM/ITK.jpg :blink:

What if he's wrong on both Bernard and Gervinho? Will he kill himself?

[Rors]

What if he's wrong on both Bernard and Gervinho? Will he kill himself?


"Rod", "own", and "back" spring to mind...

[Fist of Lehmann]

Well precisely. Who gives a flying shit about a deleted Twitter account anyway.

He should have someone punch him in the balls or something each time he's wrong.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

has anyone....actually stopped caring?

Emotional detachment it's the way to go!

[Cripps_orig]

has anyone....actually stopped caring?

Emotional detachment it's the way to go!

This

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/RorsDM/ITK.jpg :blink:

Phil. :bow:

If Gervinho doesn't go, I'll delete his account.

[fakeyank]

This will possibly be the only piece of good news for Arsenal fans this summer.. though I dont know if Tottenham with all that money is good news!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8845192/transfer-news-gareth-bale-odds-on-with-sky-bet-to-leave-tottenham

[Dicks and chicks]

This will possibly be the only piece of good news for Arsenal fans this summer.. though I dont know if Tottenham with all that money is good news!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8845192/transfer-news-gareth-bale-odds-on-with-sky-bet-to-leave-tottenham
if the odds say its gonna happen its gonna happen

[Ollie the Optimist]

This will possibly be the only piece of good news for Arsenal fans this summer.. though I dont know if Tottenham with all that money is good news!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8845192/transfer-news-gareth-bale-odds-on-with-sky-bet-to-leave-tottenham

if they want their new stadium, most of the bale money will have to go towards it. so i cant see them spending too much of it. plus, bale was their key player, lose him, and you have adebayor as your main goal threat.

[fakeyank]

if they want their new stadium, most of the bale money will have to go towards it. so i cant see them spending too much of it. plus, bale was their key player, lose him, and you have adebayor as your main goal threat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA-DuGGCf68

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA-DuGGCf68

:haha:

This vid is a classic, VIva la France !

[Özim]

if they want their new stadium, most of the bale money will have to go towards it. so i cant see them spending too much of it. plus, bale was their key player, lose him, and you have adebayor as your main goal threat.
You live in cloud cuckoo land, if they get the money they'll spend it, they've always spent, 86 million goes a long way if spent wisely.

[Özim]

This will possibly be the only piece of good news for Arsenal fans this summer.. though I dont know if Tottenham with all that money is good news!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8845192/transfer-news-gareth-bale-odds-on-with-sky-bet-to-leave-tottenham
Yeah you're probably right, they'll lose their best player, they could however get 3 or so top players for that as well so it depends what they do with it.

The only other news for us is BS.

[Marc Overmars]

Sounds like Sperz may have Soldado in the bag.

Fuckers.

[Özim]

Remember the competition in Europe is very hard at the moment. There’s a lot of money and not many players.

[Ollie the Optimist]

You live in cloud cuckoo land, if they get the money they'll spend it, they've always spent, 86 million goes a long way if spent wisely.

1. we are talking about spurs. htey spent 16 million on david bentley. they might spend it but dont always spend wisely. they also bought adebayor to back up this point

2. if they want a new stadium, they cant spend all this money

[Özim]

1. we are talking about spurs. htey spent 16 million on david bentley. they might spend it but dont always spend wisely. they also bought adebayor to back up this point

2. if they want a new stadium, they cant spend all this money
1. True but there's always the chance they get it right, Soldado looks like a good goalscorer (albeit not the youngest)
2. I don't agree, if Bale isn't sold where would the money come for the stadium? The Bale money will be independent of that IMO.

[Ollie the Optimist]

1. True but there's always the chance they get it right, Soldado looks like a good goalscorer (albeit not the youngest)
2. I don't agree, if Bale isn't sold where would the money come for the stadium? The Bale money will be independent of that IMO.


the money, havnt they been struggling a bit for finacining a new stadium or redevolping it? hence why they went all out for the olympic stadium. they will have seen how much we struggled with money since our move, if they got 100 million, id reckon they would put most of it towards new stadium. less money to borrow, less debt, quicker to pay off.

they dont always reinvest properly. last year sold van der vaart and modric. replaced with clint dempsey and adebayor. spurs are as guilty as us for going for the cheap option. and i wouldnt rule out liverpool with soldado (who seems to be a good player) coming in for him to replace suarez

and as we've already seen, champions league football is a huge drawer. doesnt matter how much money they have, you wont convince many top players after selling your best player and playing in the europa league to join you. especially as most top palyers atm play in the champions leauge.

[selassie]

Sounds like Sperz may have Soldado in the bag.

Fuckers.

That's their 2nd signing this summer that not only breaks their transfer record again but massively upgrades their starting XI.

Yeah I know....we've heard this all before, but we really do need to get our skates on and start upgrading our team. I am absolutely sick of Wenger gambling the season on internal solutions when this team is crying out for experienced quality additions. We have the money for christ sake, we're awash with it, what's the hold up???

[Grebbo]

That's their 2nd signing this summer that not only breaks their transfer record again but massively upgrades their starting XI.

Yeah I know....we've heard this all before, but we really do need to get our skates on and start upgrading our team. I am absolutely sick of Wenger gambling the season on internal solutions when this team is crying out for experienced quality additions. We have the money for christ sake, we're awash with it, what's the hold up???

I think that's a bit unfair tbh. We could go out and buy Soldado tomorrow but Suarez is better so we're rightly trying to sign him instead. Now if we had pots of money we could have signed Soldado and tried for Suarez as well but we don't.

When you're trying to buy super super quality it is difficult because the selling club don't want to sell and other clubs are inevitably interested in the player.

I still think we'll sign a couple of excellent players this window, but I think we'll miss out on Suarez and sign a star midfielder instead.

[Grebbo]

As for Paulinho who knows how good he'll be. The only experience of European football he's got is from playing in Poland and Lithuania - where he failed. Hardly a great pedigree

[Niall_Quinn]

We should put in a can't refuse bid for Coutinho. Pool might sell him if it distracts from Suarez who we aren't getting anyway.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal could be disappointed in their chase for midfielder Bernard, 20, after the player's father confirmed that Brazilian team-mate, 27-year-old striker Hulk, has persuaded the youngster Porto would be a better club at which to develop.
Full story: Daily Express


That's another one who bites the dust

[Niall_Quinn]

That's another one who bites the dust

Another father pipes up, doesn't mean anything much if past evidence is to go by.

[JonasTC]

Well Higuains father said he was comming to us and ended up in Napoli, so maybe its a good thing when his father is saying he is going to another club >_<

[Özim]

When you're trying to buy super super quality it is difficult because the selling club don't want to sell and other clubs are inevitably interested in the player.

I still think we'll sign a couple of excellent players this window, but I think we'll miss out on Suarez and sign a star midfielder instead.
You don't think we're just wasting our time on a player we're never realistically going to sign then? I don't think Suarez is realistic, it'll drag on with little happening until the deal eventually falls on it's head, we'll have then wasted all summer there'll be even less quality players around and we'll end up at best buying a couple of average players.

It's funny how we left everything so late and how every deal hits a snag, are we just puposefully releasing rumours about interest in certain players and putting in bids we know aren't going to be good enough to buy the players in question....sounds like it to me. I just find it suspicious that a club that doesn't like to spend money is supposedly bidding for players and those deals drag on and fall on their faces everytime.

I don't think we should spend 40 million on one player as we need 3-4 quality players, however if we were going to shouldn't we get a move on as it does seem to me like nothing is happening with this deal .

[Özim]

Well Higuains father said he was comming to us and ended up in Napoli, so maybe its a good thing when his father is saying he is going to another club >_<
Yeah not really that hard is it, you bid for a player, if it's rejected you bid again if you're still interested, then if accepted you talk to the player and agree terms. With a player like him I wouldn't have thought it's that hard, so basically we're not interested and he's not coming.

[LDG]

£0.00

[selassie]

I think that's a bit unfair tbh. We could go out and buy Soldado tomorrow but Suarez is better so we're rightly trying to sign him instead. Now if we had pots of money we could have signed Soldado and tried for Suarez as well but we don't.

When you're trying to buy super super quality it is difficult because the selling club don't want to sell and other clubs are inevitably interested in the player.

I still think we'll sign a couple of excellent players this window, but I think we'll miss out on Suarez and sign a star midfielder instead.

Sure, we are going for top tier players but if we don't sign them then what's the point?

I accept that signing top tier players is more complicated but we're getting extremely close to the season kick off and as it stands the team that finished at Newcastle is going to be our starting XI.

Signing top tier players in the last few weeks let alone last day of the Window is pretty much a "no no", selling clubs want replacements lined up and assurances that they can replace their star players.

I'm pretty sure if we don't make any major moves in the next few weeks then that's it, we're stuck with what we have.

[GP]

There is 0% chance we won't sign players.

[LDG]

There is 0% chance we won't sign players.

I think we will too, but do you have faith that they'll be top bracket, ready to go, capapble of pushing us towards the title, signings?

That's what is worrying and frustrating.

We have the basis of a squad that can win the league, with two or three top quality signings. If the money is there, I just don't get why we aren't going for it.

I would love to be patient, but I think given seasons past, it's not inconceivable that we will again fail to add quality and depth when and where it is blindingly obvious we need to.

[selassie]

I think we will too, but do you have faith that they'll be top bracket, ready to go, capapble of pushing us towards the title, signings?

That's what is worrying and frustrating.

We have the basis of a squad that can win the league, with two or three top quality signings. If the money is there, I just don't get why we aren't going for it.

I would love to be patient, but I think given seasons past, it's not inconceivable that we will again fail to add quality and depth when and where it is blindingly obvious we need to.

Yep, exactly how I feel LDG. I'll be honest, I'd rather us not sign anyone than go rummaging around the "bargain bin" in Ligue One on deadline day.

I don't want anymore "squad fillers" or "development players" paraded as proper signings.

[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully we've got a few other targets because I'm worried if we don't get Suarez we could revert to type and bring in some average players who won't really do anything to improve the team.

[Power n Glory]

Hopefully we've got a few other targets because I'm worried if we don't get Suarez we could revert to type and bring in some average players who won't really do anything to improve the team.

From Wenger's interview, it sounds as if we're not close to signing anyone and he's fine with that. He's going for the long gamble again.

[Özim]

Hopefully we've got a few other targets because I'm worried if we don't get Suarez we could revert to type and bring in some average players who won't really do anything to improve the team.
I doubt it personally, it's not the 1st time we've chased one player only to fail and have no backup plan.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Technically isn't Suarez our backup to Higuain?

It's starting to get a bit worrying now, it's gone quiet again. I guess we will know more on both Suarez amd fabregas by end of the week, judging by some reports. It's getting concerning but hopefully club will still pull the big deals off. I know window shuts in September but we want players for beginning of season but I'm at a point where I don't care when, I just want them be it deadline day or tomorrow.

[Letters]

I think we will too, but do you have faith that they'll be top bracket, ready to go, capapble of pushing us towards the title, signings?

That's what is worrying and frustrating.

We have the basis of a squad that can win the league, with two or three top quality signings. If the money is there, I just don't get why we aren't going for it.

I would love to be patient, but I think given seasons past, it's not inconceivable that we will again fail to add quality and depth when and where it is blindingly obvious we need to.

I think we're genuinely trying to sign some proper quality this year, whether we will or not...
I don't buy NQ's bollox about us 'pretending' to in order to appease the fans because
a) It's not working and
b) If they don't sign anyone of note people will only be more pissed off, a half arsed "well, we tried" isn't going to cut it and they know it.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I think we're genuinely trying to sign some proper quality this year, whether we will or not...
I don't buy NQ's bollox about us 'pretending' to in order to appease the fans because
a) It's not working and
b) If they don't sign anyone of note people will only be more pissed off, a half arsed "well, we tried" isn't going to cut it and they know it.


:gp:

[Ralpheroo72]

I think we're genuinely trying to sign some proper quality this year, whether we will or not...
I don't buy NQ's bollox about us 'pretending' to in order to appease the fans because
a) It's not working and
b) If they don't sign anyone of note people will only be more pissed off, a half arsed "well, we tried" isn't going to cut it and they know it.

You call it bollox, but, up to now who has come in? Sanogo? Your having a bath. If they are serious, they need to pay what the other club wants. We have already (supposedly) lost out on Higuain. Whoever is meant to be our deal closer, needs a punch in the testicles.

[GP]

I think we're genuinely trying to sign some proper quality this year, whether we will or not...
I don't buy NQ's bollox about us 'pretending' to in order to appease the fans because
a) It's not working and
b) If they don't sign anyone of note people will only be more pissed off, a half arsed "well, we tried" isn't going to cut it and they know it.

:goodpost:

[Letters]

You call it bollox, but, up to now who has come in? Sanogo? Your having a bath. If they are serious, they need to pay what the other club wants. We have already (supposedly) lost out on Higuain. Whoever is meant to be our deal closer, needs a punch in the testicles.
I agree with the part in bold, all I'm saying is I don't think we're just going through the motions to appease the fans for the reasons I've outlined.

[Ollie the Optimist]

You call it bollox, but, up to now who has come in? Sanogo? Your having a bath. If they are serious, they need to pay what the other club wants. We have already (supposedly) lost out on Higuain. Whoever is meant to be our deal closer, needs a punch in the testicles.

Why would a club bid more money if a player and the buying club believe 40 million is a release clause?

[Ollie the Optimist]

It says a lot about football these days when 40 million pounds is dismissed as a joke bid and not serious.


40 million pounds? To dismiss that amount of money as a joke bid says a lot about modern football

[Özim]

Why would a club bid more money if a player and the buying club believe 40 million is a release clause?
Clearly it isn't.

[LDG]

It says a lot about football these days when 40 million pounds is dismissed as a joke bid and not serious.


40 million pounds? To dismiss that amount of money as a joke bid says a lot about modern football

You just said the same thing twice, but the other way around :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Clearly it isn't.

Given Suarez and his agents seem convinced it is, I wouldn't say "clearly it isn't" more to this one then meets the eye

[Ralpheroo72]

The 40million +1 bid has worked a treat so far then. Liverpool are right to hold out, its up to us to pay up. Dein more than likely would have sewn the transfer up already. Our transfer dealings are a modern day embarassment.

[Özim]

I think we're genuinely trying to sign some proper quality this year, whether we will or not...
I don't buy NQ's bollox about us 'pretending' to in order to appease the fans because
a) It's not working and
b) If they don't sign anyone of note people will only be more pissed off, a half arsed "well, we tried" isn't going to cut it and they know it.
They can still turn around and say we tried to bring in top class players and put in big bids but unfortunately the clubs did not want to sell, people will buy it believe me, they have for many years before this and this won't change anything.

IMO Suarez was never a realistic target, the money involved, the fact Liverpool don't want to sell, the timing of the deal (late on making it harder for Liverpool to find a replacement), the fact we haven't won a trophy in years (how will that appeal to Suarez), the fact the likes of Real would be a preferable for a player like him (if he did by some miracle sign for us he'd delay his chance of moving to a top top club longer) and the fact he wanted to leave England.

So much about this transfer just doesn't make sense.

[Ollie the Optimist]

You just said the same thing twice, but the other way around :lol:

I haven't had my coffee yet, not thinking :lol:

[Özim]

Given Suarez and his agents seem convinced it is, I wouldn't say "clearly it isn't" more to this one then meets the eye
Seeing as Liverpool haven't accepted the bid and that apparently his agent and the player aren't sure about the clause (and they are the ones who would have negotiated this in the first place), I would suggest it clearly isn't.

[Özim]

The 40million +1 bid has worked a treat so far then. Liverpool are right to hold out, its up to us to pay up. Dein more than likely would have sewn the transfer up already. Our transfer dealings are a modern day embarassment.
If we go up in amounts of £1 we should be able to drag this out until September :lol:

[Power n Glory]

I have no idea how Ivan will swerve clear of the backlash if the club fail to live up to the hype. The backlash will be immense and he’ll have to push Wenger under the bus to save his rep.

[Özim]

I think the club can cope with any backlash, they've shown they can before. As long as the stadium remains near full (and it will as always), they have nothing to be concerned about.

They have excuses for all possible scenarios, we'll sign a couple players and they'll claim these are super super quality players who will improve the team and help us challenge for trophies which is always our aim.

Having seen the response over the last few years, many of the fans will buy this and just get on with supporting the team throughout the season as normal, saying there's nothing we can do about it now we may as well get behind what we have.

[Niall_Quinn]

Given Suarez and his agents seem convinced it is, I wouldn't say "clearly it isn't" more to this one then meets the eye

They may be convinced but they aren't at all convincing. It went from a release clause in a contract to a verbal agreement. Sounds and smells like the usual stuff agents push. Nobody said £40mill is not a serious bid. Of course it's serious because Liverpool could have said yes. But if we have no intention of meeting their asking price and instead are prepared to wait it out to see if they crack or the player and agent force the issue then this process is far more likely to fail than succeed. If all our eggs are in the one basket and yet we aren't prepared to push on and close the deal then I'd say there's a strange attitude in play here. Either we get a deal or we let it fizzle out. Either would suit just as well if Wenger's words are anything to go by. We pulled the same stunt with Fellaini and apparently he had a real clause in his contract. And no interest in Fabregas either, that can wait another year apparently. So the money is serious but is the ambition to land one of these players serious? Seems like no if you look at the evidence so far.

[ENSKIED]

If we go up in amounts of £1 we should be able to drag this out until September :lol:

But September of what year?

[Letters]

They can still turn around and say we tried to bring in top class players and put in big bids but unfortunately the clubs did not want to sell, people will buy it believe me, they have for many years before this and this won't change anything.
The mood has shifted and people are clearly getting increasingly pissed off with the lack of investment, especially now they've come out and said we can compete financially. You can see from the mood on here that if we don't do something serious this summer people aren't just going to think "oh well, they tried, fair enough".

[LDG]

The mood has shifted and people are clearly getting increasingly pissed off with the lack of investment, especially now they've come out and said we can compete financially. You can see from the mood on here that if we don't do something serious this summer people aren't just going to think "oh well, they tried, fair enough".

But will they care if we stomp our feet? What, other than not going to games, can we actually do that will affect them in any way?

The ground will remain full. People will still buy shirts. More and more money is coming from sources which the fans don't have much of a hand in.

What exactly does it matter to a man sat in Texas, seeing the pound notes sat in the bank?

[ENSKIED]

The mood has shifted and people are clearly getting increasingly pissed off with the lack of investment, especially now they've come out and said we can compete financially. You can see from the mood on here that if we don't do something serious this summer people aren't just going to think "oh well, they tried, fair enough".

Wenger being a magical manager, thinking "rod and back" here - while also thinking it's eminently conceivable the Arsenal hierarchy will merely shrug their shoulders and expect Wenger, new signings or no new signings [or questionable signings] to once again merely pull the rabbit out of the hat; has indeed he has so many times previously in regard to the ECL and for many of course ECL qualification is all that seems to matter.

[Niall_Quinn]

The mood has shifted and people are clearly getting increasingly pissed off with the lack of investment, especially now they've come out and said we can compete financially. You can see from the mood on here that if we don't do something serious this summer people aren't just going to think "oh well, they tried, fair enough".

So what are they going to do? Boycott the club? There's a queue waiting to take their places.

[selassie]

I have no idea how Ivan will swerve clear of the backlash if the club fail to live up to the hype. The backlash will be immense and he’ll have to push Wenger under the bus to save his rep.

Yep...though to be fair to Ivan he kind of covered himself with the "warchest statement" by putting it on Arsene's head to spend, the statement was very much the money is there and in bucketloads, it's up to the manager to spend it.

[Power n Glory]

So what are they going to do? Boycott the club? There's a queue waiting to take their places.

We really don’t know that for sure. Even if there was a queue, you have to start somewhere and we actually need more forums and bloggers to start pushing that message out. Gazids went around speaking to all the bloggers before the summer to assure them of change. There will be a huge backlash if the summer turns out to be another wild goose chase.

[selassie]

They may be convinced but they aren't at all convincing. It went from a release clause in a contract to a verbal agreement. Sounds and smells like the usual stuff agents push. Nobody said £40mill is not a serious bid. Of course it's serious because Liverpool could have said yes. But if we have no intention of meeting their asking price and instead are prepared to wait it out to see if they crack or the player and agent force the issue then this process is far more likely to fail than succeed. If all our eggs are in the one basket and yet we aren't prepared to push on and close the deal then I'd say there's a strange attitude in play here. Either we get a deal or we let it fizzle out. Either would suit just as well if Wenger's words are anything to go by. We pulled the same stunt with Fellaini and apparently he had a real clause in his contract. And no interest in Fabregas either, that can wait another year apparently. So the money is serious but is the ambition to land one of these players serious? Seems like no if you look at the evidence so far.

:gp:

[selassie]

Given Suarez and his agents seem convinced it is, I wouldn't say "clearly it isn't" more to this one then meets the eye

Maybe, but given that we have been refused permission to speak to him and that Liverpool seem quite firm in their stance that the clause isn't a release clause I have major doubts about it.

Seems like some sort of verbal clause judging by some of the reports.

Besides, Liverpool have specified a price of which they are willing to entertain business, we either pay up or walk away and pursue another target.

[Niall_Quinn]

We really don’t know that for sure. Even if there was a queue, you have to start somewhere and we actually need more forums and bloggers to start pushing that message out. Gazids went around speaking to all the bloggers before the summer to assure them of change. There will be a huge backlash if the summer turns out to be another wild goose chase.

Give it a few years and all the revenue will come from Koreans and Vietnamese and Chinese watching via subscription TV, they won't need physical arses on seats. We're eight years in, the backlash should have happened a long time ago but so far nothing. I think fans will be loud and angry for a while but what are we going to do, go down the road and support the chavs? If support dies it will die across football in general and because of a disillusionment with the way things have become so business oriented, I don't think single clubs will die off because supporters get pissed. We saw what happened at Utd, that's about as close as it will ever get and it wasn't even close.

[Marc Overmars]

We really don’t know that for sure. Even if there was a queue, you have to start somewhere and we actually need more forums and bloggers to start pushing that message out. Gazids went around speaking to all the bloggers before the summer to assure them of change. There will be a huge backlash if the summer turns out to be another wild goose chase.

Wenget and co will be torn apart like a peshwari naan on a rugby club curry night.

[LDG]

Wenget and co will be torn apart like a peshwari naan on a rugby club curry night.

:lol:

The most there'll be is a load of booing at matches, before people wander off for a latte and a danish.

[Özim]

I think they've cottoned on the fact there are really no serious repercussions, they play the game and make sure there's evidence that we're chasing/bidding for players.

It's a good game that has worked for many years, they managed to sell most of our best players without any real backlash and it'll be the same if we don't buy any to class ones this summer, a club intent on spending doesn't spend all summer with no real activity and making excuses about a lack of players, too much money and not being able to contact anyone due to tours.

Stadium mostly full, 4th place, job done for another year.

[Power n Glory]

Give it a few years and all the revenue will come from Koreans and Vietnamese and Chinese watching via subscription TV, they won't need physical arses on seats. We're eight years in, the backlash should have happened a long time ago but so far nothing. I think fans will be loud and angry for a while but what are we going to do, go down the road and support the chavs? If support dies it will die across football in general and because of a disillusionment with the way things have become so business oriented, I don't think single clubs will die off because supporters get pissed. We saw what happened at Utd, that's about as close as it will ever get and it wasn't even close.

Utd are still winning though. It's no comparison. There is no need to support another team. Just withdraw financial support in certain areas. Boycott games, merchandise, Sky, Pies…whatever. Something is better than nothing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Utd are still winning though. It's no comparison. There is no need to support another team. Just withdraw financial support in certain areas. Boycott games, merchandise, Sky, Pies…whatever. Something is better than nothing.

I agree, if the board goes another season without giving anything back something should be done about it. But meaningful collective action is incredibly difficult to organise and maintain, inside football and outside. In every walk of life common people are getting screwed over, football is no different. The numbers who are prepared to do anything about it are tiny. We shouldn't just be boycotting greedy shareholders at a football club, we should be fighting for reasonable transport costs to get to the games in the first place. And reasonable merchandising costs seeing as the kits are stitched together by slaves. And reasonable politicians who give a fuck about the country we all have to live in. And so on. Where's the collective action? Yes we have the power it's just a fact that not enough people are inclined to use it. So withholding financial support on an individual level is more a matter of conscience rather than an action that has impact on the intended target. I'm not saying we shouldn't try but I do say the wankers have a clear idea of how successful any push back is likely to be and it's a minimal risk for them to take.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

I agree, if the board goes another season without giving anything back something should be done about it. But meaningful collective action is incredibly difficult to organise and maintain, inside football and outside. In every walk of life common people are getting screwed over, football is no different. The numbers who are prepared to do anything about it are tiny. We shouldn't just be boycotting greedy shareholders at a football club, we should be fighting for reasonable transport costs to get to the games in the first place. And reasonable merchandising costs seeing as the kits are stitched together by slaves. And reasonable politicians who give a fuck about the country we all have to live in. And so on. Where's the collective action? Yes we have the power it's just a fact that not enough people are inclined to use it. So withholding financial support on an individual level is more a matter of conscience rather than an action that has impact on the intended target. I'm not saying we shouldn't try but I do say the wankers have a clear idea of how successful any push back is likely to be and it's a minimal risk for them to take.

Well said.

[Dicks and chicks]

lets just sign soldado 28mil, proven quality, made the cover of fifa 13 spanish edition

[Özim]

Reckon the Suarez deal is dead now anyhow.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

There is 0% chance we won't sign players.

Last minute trolley dash it is then.....sweet.

[Power n Glory]

I agree, if the board goes another season without giving anything back something should be done about it. But meaningful collective action is incredibly difficult to organise and maintain, inside football and outside. In every walk of life common people are getting screwed over, football is no different. The numbers who are prepared to do anything about it are tiny. We shouldn't just be boycotting greedy shareholders at a football club, we should be fighting for reasonable transport costs to get to the games in the first place. And reasonable merchandising costs seeing as the kits are stitched together by slaves. And reasonable politicians who give a fuck about the country we all have to live in. And so on. Where's the collective action? Yes we have the power it's just a fact that not enough people are inclined to use it. So withholding financial support on an individual level is more a matter of conscience rather than an action that has impact on the intended target. I'm not saying we shouldn't try but I do say the wankers have a clear idea of how successful any push back is likely to be and it's a minimal risk for them to take.

Why is it so difficult in this day and age? With so many groups and writers on Twitter, the blogs, the forums, Facebook….the audience is there already and most Gooners I speak to are pissed off. I’m not even talking about an organised rally, petition or anything that requires effort and money from the majority. It’s just a simple message I’d like to see on Arseblog/Le Grove/ Online Gooner whatever….withdraw financial report somehow. If money is tight but you still manage to go to games….save yourself and your family some time and money. Stop going to games if possible. Merchandise, anything to maybe get that message across. It’s been a real shitty few years and there has been a real split with fans when it comes to the debate on Wenger and the Board. But with this sort of action, there is no need for chants or banners which may offend those that think it’s unproductive but it’s something at least. There is no way in hell they should be able to bank the money again this summer. If they’re going to do things on the cheap with us then we should all do the same. But that’s where the discussion has to go at some point because it’s getting so poisonous and pointless discussing the same issues season after season.

[BlindFaith_8]

Season starts in just over 2 weeks, we still havent signed a player and looks like another summer of discontent with no significant signings. The manager and the board played us big time yet again. This time they went the whole 9 yards by actually bidding to make it look real, but they offerred well under the value of the selling club's figure. They even went as far as agreeing terms with a player, but he goes to Napoli to play in a shitty league. The fact is Napoli coughed up the dough what he was worth, whilist Gazidis and Wenger & Co were playing silly games by offering low valuations. Even Tottenham without Champions league football have better pulling power than us by attracting players. So thier signings may take time to settle down, but atleast Levy and his board put words in to action. Our Manager and board of directors should hang their heads in shame by turning us in to tha laughing stock of London.

[server too busy!]

Season starts in just over 2 weeks, we still havent signed a player and looks like another summer of discontent with no significant signings. The manager and the board played us big time yet again. This time they went the whole 9 yards by actually bidding to make it look real, but they offerred well under the value of the selling club's figure. They even went as far as agreeing terms with a player, but he goes to Napoli to play in a shitty league. The fact is Napoli coughed up the dough what he was worth, whilist Gazidis and Wenger & Co were playing silly games by offering low valuations. Even Tottenham without Champions league football have better pulling power than us by attracting players. So thier signings may take time to settle down, but atleast Levy and his board put words in to action. Our Manager and board of directors should hang their heads in shame by turning us in to tha laughing stock of London.

That post doesn't really suit the username blind faith...

[BlindFaith_8]

That post doesn't really suit the username blind faith... I used that username for all the delusional Wenger Rites.

[Niall_Quinn]

That post doesn't really suit the username blind faith...

Ollie the Broken Wreck will be posting here come September 2nd.

[BlindFaith_8]

I am one of the lucky ones not to have a season ticket, and I say lucky coz I would rather use that for a holiday or clothes, whatever the fcuk I like. Arsenal are a very cash rich club, probably have gold reserves hidden in a vault at the bank of England. They should be ashamed for lying and fooling those hard core fans who for over 7 years have bee paying over inflated season tickets even in hard times, they have stumped up the cash to watch some 2nd and 3rd rate players wear the famouse jersey. No thank you. I don't even watch them on the box anymore, it's like I've lost the love for my club of 40 years. I hate for what they stand for, the way they have treated the fans with lies upon lies. At the same time these rich bastards inc wenger are becoming richer and richer. We have to stand up for the club and what it means to be a gooner, I used to love watching games in the north bank, watching players like Brady, Sunderland, Nelson, O'Leary, Sansom, etc etc. We were a proper footbal club then and we used to spend money, not ponce around saving and scrimping every penny.

[Niall_Quinn]

I am one of the lucky ones not to have a season ticket, and I say lucky coz I would rather use that for a holiday or clothes, whatever the fcuk I like. Arsenal are a very cash rich club, probably have gold reserves hidden in a vault at the bank of England. They should be ashamed for lying and fooling those hard core fans who for over 7 years have bee paying over inflated season tickets even in hard times, they have stumped up the cash to watch some 2nd and 3rd rate players wear the famouse jersey. No thank you. I don't even watch them on the box anymore, it's like I've lost the love for my club of 40 years. I hate for what they stand for, the way they have treated the fans with lies upon lies. At the same time these rich bastards inc wenger are becoming richer and richer. We have to stand up for the club and what it means to be a gooner, I used to love watching games in the north bank, watching players like Brady, Sunderland, Nelson, O'Leary, Sansom, etc etc. We were a proper footbal club then and we used to spend money, not ponce around saving and scrimping every penny.

The new shareholders misunderstood what the North Bank meant obviously. Hence all the profits and loans.

[Letters]

So what are they going to do? Boycott the club? There's a queue waiting to take their places.
It's pretty much what I've done, given up my season ticket, unsubscribed from Sky Sports.
Either make football a sport again or **** off.

There may be queues to take my place and if there are then you're right but the queues are getting shorter and people's patience has been worn to breaking point.
I'd be amazed if they're really trying to bluff it out another summer, especially given the bullish comments about the money we have.

[Dicks and chicks]

It's pretty much what I've done, given up my season ticket, unsubscribed from Sky Sports.
Either make football a sport again or **** off.

There may be queues to take my place and if there are then you're right but the queues are getting shorter and people's patience has been worn to breaking point.
I'd be amazed if they're really trying to bluff it out another summer, especially given the bullish comments about the money we have.

You still got ur season ticket for next season?

[Letters]

You still got ur season ticket for next season?
No.

The first line of my post was a clue tbh.

[fakeyank]

I am boycotting them too... :lol:

[LDG]

Already going to the first game.

What a mug I am :lol:

[Lord Nelson]

I am one of the lucky ones not to have a season ticket, and I say lucky coz I would rather use that for a holiday or clothes, whatever the fcuk I like. Arsenal are a very cash rich club, probably have gold reserves hidden in a vault at the bank of England. They should be ashamed for lying and fooling those hard core fans who for over 7 years have bee paying over inflated season tickets even in hard times, they have stumped up the cash to watch some 2nd and 3rd rate players wear the famouse jersey. No thank you. I don't even watch them on the box anymore, it's like I've lost the love for my club of 40 years. I hate for what they stand for, the way they have treated the fans with lies upon lies. At the same time these rich bastards inc wenger are becoming richer and richer. We have to stand up for the club and what it means to be a gooner, I used to love watching games in the north bank, watching players like Brady, Sunderland, Nelson, O'Leary, Sansom, etc etc. We were a proper footbal club then and we used to spend money, not ponce around saving and scrimping every penny.
Really good post. Especially the latter part when we were a proper football club. I too used to stand on the North Bank watching those players who really did care about the club, not their fucking over inflated wages! K U N T S!

[Ollie the Optimist]

apparently monaco are about to bid 44 million pounds for cazorla. i dont know where they stem from, there was just loads of talk on twitter about it.

i wouldnt be surprised if we did sell him either

[GP]

:lol:

Only £44m?

They can fuck off.

[Niall_Quinn]

LOOOOL could this be real? The only business we do is to sell Santi? I really wouldn't put it past these bastards.

[Harland]

This is really very depressing.

[Marc Overmars]

We'll need to recoup the Suarez outlay somehow. :rolleyes:

Cazorla. :wave:

[Niall_Quinn]

You can only laugh. It's just a sea of bullshit rumours by hysterical journos mixed into the limitless greed of players and agents and the overflowing sewage that comes from shareholders who pretend to give a flying fuck about football. The fans just look on bemused.

[Niall_Quinn]

We'll need to recoup the Suarez outlay somehow. :rolleyes:

Cazorla. :wave:

Best bit is we aren't signing Suarez.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Best bit is we aren't signing Suarez.

Spurs sell Bale for a massive world record fee and spend it on Soldado and Suarez.

Sure that would go down well on here....

[Ollie the Optimist]

Spurs sell Bale for a massive world record fee and spend it on Soldado and Suarez.

Sure that would go down well on here....

while we sign gareth barry


:ilt:

[Injury Time]

Already going to the first game.

What a mug I am :lol:
Renewed my season ticket because mate renewed his :ilt: I guess I'll get to see great team performances and Arsenal as well :shrug:

[Injury Time]

I am one of the lucky ones not to have a season ticket, and I say lucky coz I would rather use that for a holiday or clothes, whatever the fcuk I like. Arsenal are a very cash rich club, probably have gold reserves hidden in a vault at the bank of England. They should be ashamed for lying and fooling those hard core fans who for over 7 years have bee paying over inflated season tickets even in hard times, they have stumped up the cash to watch some 2nd and 3rd rate players wear the famouse jersey. No thank you. I don't even watch them on the box anymore, it's like I've lost the love for my club of 40 years. I hate for what they stand for, the way they have treated the fans with lies upon lies. At the same time these rich bastards inc wenger are becoming richer and richer. We have to stand up for the club and what it means to be a gooner, I used to love watching games in the north bank, watching players like Brady, Sunderland, Nelson, O'Leary, Sansom, etc etc. We were a proper footbal club then and we used to spend money, not ponce around saving and scrimping every penny.

Might want to rethink that poster name O.o

[Niall_Quinn]

Spurs sell Bale for a massive world record fee and spend it on Soldado and Suarez.

Sure that would go down well on here....

Suarez is anti-Semitic* so I doubt it.


* I have no proof but he is anyway.