Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[I_Killed_Kenny]

Quiet day today it seems. Just scanning the metro and they say we are lining up a bid for kondogbia according to their sources in europe (probably goal.com)

Apparently he has an 8m release clause. If thats the case why hasnt he been bought already even if he is a squad filler. Havent seen much but when i have he has been pretty impressive and can play CB as well.

Also why the need to "bid" when there is a release clause of 8m. Or is arene going to bid 5m and watch us lose another i wonder

[Grebbo]

Gustavo is a step in the right direction, our midfield should be pretty decent with him hopefully replacing Arteta.

Giroud is actually in good form. I'm not too worried about him, sure I'd like Suarez but it aint gonna happen.

What is dumbfounding though is no sign of a CB or GK. Chesney isn't good enough and I'm not convinced that the Kos/BFG partnership is up to it.

Madness.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a433/qwerty12343/madness_zpsf309c54b.jpg

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Gustavo is a step in the right direction, our midfield should be pretty decent with him hopefully replacing Arteta.

Giroud is actually in good form. I'm not too worried about him, sure I'd like Suarez but it aint gonna happen.

What is dumbfounding though is no sign of a CB or GK. Chesney isn't good enough and I'm not convinced that the Kos/BFG partnership is up to it.

Madness.

I like the idea of Gustavo replacing Arteta, and Wenger then gives Arteta a more advanced role where he's clearly more suited.

Ramsey. :rose:

:pray:

[Marc Overmars]

Gustavo is a step in the right direction, our midfield should be pretty decent with him hopefully replacing Arteta.

Giroud is actually in good form. I'm not too worried about him, sure I'd like Suarez but it aint gonna happen.

What is dumbfounding though is no sign of a CB or GK. Chesney isn't good enough and I'm not convinced that the Kos/BFG partnership is up to it.

Madness.

Kos/BFG is more than good enough IMO. They deserve a full season together this time to show what they can do, rather than the odd month or 2.

Could do with a new back up though with Verm injured and Miquel on loan.

[Cripps_orig]

The keeper issue is a problem indeed.

[Grebbo]

Kos/BFG is more than good enough IMO. They deserve a full season together this time to show what they can do, rather than the odd month or 2.

Could do with a new back up though with Verm injured and Miquel on loan.

You might be right. BFG just doesn't fill me with any confidence. There's always a mistake in him, same with Kos as well tbh.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Kos and BFG as a CB pairing are unbeaten for about 20 games. tehy work well together, as others have said, its the back up im worried about. need a good back up CB

unless wenger is planning on using sagna there as back up, which isnt a bad idea. he was exceptional against sunderland in that position. either way, we need either a back up CB, or a back up RB and good ones at that

[selassie]

You might be right. BFG just doesn't fill me with any confidence. There's always a mistake in him, same with Kos as well tbh.

Yeah, it also worries me that we don't appear to have any desire to bring in quality back up, I know we have Verms but we definitely could do with another.

Looks like we have Sagna lined up to cover if one of BFG/Kos breaks down. Wenger is such a gambler, why he doesn't use the market to fill the gaps is beyond me.

[Grebbo]

Kos and BFG as a CB pairing are unbeaten for about 20 games. tehy work well together, as others have said, its the back up im worried about. need a good back up CB

But have they been tested? Didn't we lose every game against the big teams? Sure, they're fine against the PL cannon fodder but against the best? I'm not so sure.

Bottom line is if we have £70m we should be buying a first choice CB, not a backup. The current CB becomes the back up and we therefore have a better set of CB's. Simple.

[fakeyank]

I think we need a RB.. I am ok with having Sagna and Verm as our backup CB. We also need a striker... I rate Giroud very highly but we have no one if he is injured. Time to bring Michu home tbh!

[Ollie the Optimist]

But have they been tested? Didn't we lose every game against the big teams? Sure, they're fine against the PL cannon fodder but against the best? I'm not so sure.

Bottom line is if we have £70m we should be buying a first choice CB, not a backup. The current CB becomes the back up and we therefore have a better set of CB's. Simple.

well last season as a pair, they were unbeaten. off top of my head, the games they played together, were the last 10 bar villa as merts was suspended i think. so that run included newcastle away, pressure game, and united at home. they also played spurs at home and city away. so against the big clubs, they didnt lose. happy with that.

there is no point changing a winning team (we are currently on an unbeaten run) Kos and Merts have a great understanding of each other, and with the other defenders. i would worry more about getting a good back up option in, because other areas need strengthening, ie attack and a DM. spend most of the money on that rather then a first choice CB as we dont need one right now

[Grebbo]

there is no point changing a winning team (we are currently on an unbeaten run) Kos and Merts have a great understanding of each other, and with the other defenders. i would worry more about getting a good back up option in, because other areas need strengthening, ie attack and a DM. spend most of the money on that rather then a first choice CB as we dont need one right now

So no point signing anyone then using that logic.

I just don't understand the mentality of buying backup. We have £70m to spend. Why not spend £20m on a top, proven CB and make BFG or Kos the back up?

I'm hoping Gustavo, if we get him, will help protect BFG and Kos because tbf they get bugger all help from midfield.

[Ollie the Optimist]

So no point signing anyone then using that logic.

I just don't understand the mentality of buying backup. We have £70m to spend. Why not spend £20m on a top, proven CB and make BFG or Kos the back up?

I'm hoping Gustavo, if we get him, will help protect BFG and Kos because tbf they get bugger all help from midfield.

when i say dont change a winning team, i will clarify it. dont change a winning partnership. in the last 10 games, pretty much all of them were draws or 1 goal wins. the defence kept us ahead or level, not the attack. that attack side can be improved.

Arteta gave the defence a lot of help but gustavo would be much better for them. The defence was pretty good last year, second best in the league. we won a lot of games by one goal because the defence saved us for losing or drawing. id focus on getting in better attackers then defenders. its a waste of time improving something that is already pretty good when we need to improve other areas first

[RomfordPele]

If you've not already seen, great article about our financial health - bit long, but well worth a read:

http://swissramble.blogspot.ch/2013/08/arsenal-money-dont-matter-2-night.html

[Munchies]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22905732

Players in: Yaya Sanogo (Auxerre) Free.

Players out: Chuks Aneke (Crewe) Loan, Martin Angha (Nuremberg) Free, Andrey Arshavin (Zenit St Petersburg) Free, Samir Bihmoutine (Released), Joel Campbell (Olympiakos) Loan, Reice Charles-Cook (Bury) Free, Francis Coquelin (Freiburg) Loan, Denilson (Sao Paulo) Free, Johan Djourou (Hamburg) Loan, Craig Eastmond (Colchester) Free, Kyle Ebecilio (Twente) Free, Gervinho (Roma) £8m, Sead Hajrovic (Released), Conor Henderson (Released), Vito Mannone (Sunderland) Undisclosed, Jernade Meade (Swansea) Free, Ignasi Miquel (Leicester) Loan, Elton Monteiro (Club Brugge) Undisclosed, Nigel Neita (Released), Joshua Rees (Released), Philip Roberts (Falkirk) Free, Andre Santos (Flamengo) Undisclosed, James Shea (Released), Sebastien Squillaci (Bastia) Free, Sanchez Watt (Colchester) Free, Jordan Wynter (Bristol City) Free.

[Cripps_orig]

Sanogo stands alone

[Niall_Quinn]

Sanogo stands alone

Leans alone, he only has one leg.

[Cripps_orig]

Leans alone, he only has one leg.

He was using his mail bag to balance himself

[Power n Glory]

Didn't Pod play as a striker vs City? Where has Pod played for the majority of the preseason?

[Master Splinter]

Didn't Pod play as a striker vs City? Where has Pod played for the majority of the preseason?

On the left.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I liked Martin Samuels' suggestion on how to resolve tedious transfer sagas. Get all parties in to a locked room, a room with a tiger in a cage that hasn't eaten for two days and give them 10 minutes to sort it out.

[Marc Overmars]

Chakma officially gone.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/marouane-chamakh-joins-crystal-palace

[GP]

Bai

[Cripps_orig]

Chakma officially gone.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/marouane-chamakh-joins-crystal-palace

He's been officially gone at least 3 times in this thread already :lol:

Anyway good luck to him.

Hope he keeps palace and more importantly Holloway up

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We actually got a fee for him? :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

We actually got a fee for him? :haha:

We had to get the £1 we offered Liverpool from somewhere

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Quiet day today it seems. Just scanning the metro and they say we are lining up a bid for kondogbia according to their sources in europe (probably goal.com)

Apparently he has an 8m release clause. If thats the case why hasnt he been bought already even if he is a squad filler. Havent seen much but when i have he has been pretty impressive and can play CB as well.

Also why the need to "bid" when there is a release clause of 8m. Or is arene going to bid 5m and watch us lose another i wonder

havent seen much but heard he isuseful, bring him in and ship Frimps out to the Championship on loan or a fraction of?

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Gustavo is a step in the right direction, our midfield should be pretty decent with him hopefully replacing Arteta.

Giroud is actually in good form. I'm not too worried about him, sure I'd like Suarez but it aint gonna happen.

What is dumbfounding though is no sign of a CB or GK. Chesney isn't good enough and I'm not convinced that the Kos/BFG partnership is up to it.

Madness.

disagree Ches is not good enough.....but agree we need another GK if not but for the fact that we got rid of Don Vito.....experienced head to teach the art of non brain fart games to our Polish stopper

[Grebbo]

disagree Ches is not good enough.....but agree we need another GK if not but for the fact that we got rid of Don Vito.....experienced head to teach the art of non brain fart games to our Polish stopper

You think it was good to have Don Vito as Chesney's teacher? Don Vito was/is fucking shit!

We need a number 1 keeper. Chesney is still young so he can recover. We're not obliged to play him just so he can learn his trade, we need a ready made number 1 keeper. We're a top four club and it's ridiculous to have Chesney as our number 1 keeper.

[Munchies]

If we get Kogdong , surely that means the Gustavo deal is off? Both CDMs

Napoli beat us again ffs

[Japan Shaking All Over]

You think it was good to have Don Vito as Chesney's teacher? Don Vito was/is fucking shit!We need a number 1 keeper. Chesney is still young so he can recover. We're not obliged to play him just so he can learn his trade, we need a ready made number 1 keeper. We're a top four club and it's ridiculous to have Chesney as our number 1 keeper.

easy tiger! didnt say that did I?......what I did say is...the fact that we got rid of Vito means we need another GK and that should be an experienced head.....mmmmm

[Japan Shaking All Over]

If we get Kogdong , surely that means the Gustavo deal is off? Both CDMs

Napoli beat us again ffs

we can bring in two.....just get rid of Dench

[Grebbo]

easy tiger! didnt say that did I?......what I did say is...the fact that we got rid of Vito means we need another GK and that should be an experienced head.....mmmmm

But Fabianski is older and more experienced than Mannone.

:whistle:

We need a new number 1 and they'll likely be experienced.

[Munchies]

Why the he'll haven't we got Cesar yet ?

He wanted to stay in London aswell.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

But Fabianski is older and more experienced than Mannone.

:whistle:

We need a new number 1 and they'll likely be experienced.

OK then lets add extra criteria.......older, more experienced and better

[Grebbo]

OK then lets add extra criteria.......older, more experienced and better than Chesney

Yes

[LDG]

http://swissramble.blogspot.ch/2013/08/arsenal-money-dont-matter-2-night.html?m=1

Dude is a genius, and writes bloody well.

[AKBapologist]

http://swissramble.blogspot.ch/2013/08/arsenal-money-dont-matter-2-night.html?m=1

Dude is a genius, and writes bloody well.

Well, it's basically a copy and paste job from his last years version. Nothing really new.

[Cripps_orig]

Luiz Gustavo has welcomed a potential move to Arsenal, with the club hopeful of completing a £14m deal for the 26-year-old Bayern Munich defensive midfielder this week.
Full story: the Guardian

Liverpool's loan move for Bayern Munich left-back Diego Contento, 23, will depend on whether Arsenal are able to complete a deal for Bayern midfielder Luiz Gustavo, 26, after the German champions confirmed they would only let one of the two players leave this summer.
Full story: Daily Express


Looks like Liverpool will screw us over

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Looks like Liverpool will screw us over

Not really because it depends on whether Gustavo comes to us or not.....but it can become another reason for Liverpool not to play with us anymore :upset:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas has told L'Equipe that Yoann Gourcuff would be prepared to accept a pay cut in order to seal a switch to Arsenal.

The France international has long been linked with a switch to Emirates Stadium, and talk of transfer this summer has resurfaced.

Lyon would be prepared to part with Gourcuff's salary if a suitable offer is tabled, and the 27-year-old would prefer a deal to be done to take him to the Premier League.

Aulas insists no loan agreement will be sanctioned with another French club - amid talk of interest from Lorient - meaning the ball is now back in Arsenal's court as the countdown to deadline day continues.

He told L'Equipe on Gourcuff, who netted once and provided two assists as Lyon started the new season with a 4-0 mauling of Nice on Saturday: "Can you see us paying part of his salary for him to play against us with another French club? We've never considered that and it would be even more stupid now than it was a fortnight ago.

"All that I know, if I understood correctly, is that he was ready to lower his salary to go to Arsenal, but that's not the same thing.

"I spoke to his lawyer two weeks ago and he asked for the power of attorney to negotiate a transfer. I said no, but I would be keen to offer a non-exclusive power of attorney to see what happens."

Another of those at Lyon whose future remains up in the air is Bafetimbi Gomis, but, after a proposed move to Newcastle United broke down, Aulas claims the striker could now be persuaded to pen a contract extension at Stade Gerland.

He added: "His circumstances have changed. Newcastle ended talks and we don't have any other offers.

"The most logical solution would be for everyone to get back down to business and for him to prolong for another year. But there are other factors to consider, most notably what Remi Garde wants to do."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8868562/transfer-news-lyon-admit-yoann-gourcuff-was-keen-on-arsenal-move

He's on his way!

[Özim]

I hope so, quality player, though it just say he'd be willing to, no mention of us making a bid or anything.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah, it could just mean from a previous window too.

[Marc Overmars]

How well has he done at Lyon? Not really heard much about him since his Bordeaux days.

[GP]

Wayne Gooney ‏@WayneGooney18 4m
Gooners have no excuse to be so negative. Look at how bad something like HIV is

:lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

I hope so, quality player, though it just say he'd be willing to, no mention of us making a bid or anything.

he only played 19 times last season (wikipedia) now i dont know much about the french league but that suggests to me, he is hugely injury prone. scored 3 goals and 7 assists.

season before, he played 23 games 2 goals 2 assists.

season before that, 36 games, 4 goals, 5 assists.

so hes getting more injures each season, his goals and assists arent great. no thanks, better players out there

[GP]

We don't really need Gourcuff, we're pretty stacked in that position.

Better than nothing, though.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We don't really need Gourcuff, we're pretty stacked in that position.

Better than nothing, though.

is it though? as you say we have a lot of players in that possition already. it would seem to be a signing for making a signings sake and thats not a good plan. we could be stuck with him for 3 years

[LDG]

Signings :lol:

I remember them.

[GP]

Signings :lol:

I remember them.

No you don't :angry:

[LDG]

You're right.

I don't :(

[Letters]

I remember Bergkamp.

Wenger :bow:

[GP]

I remember the summer of 1992.

Signed John Jensen and sold David Rocastle.

I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[LDG]

Who could forget Hartson and Kiwomya in January 1995 :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8868562/transfer-news-lyon-admit-yoann-gourcuff-was-keen-on-arsenal-move

He's on his way!

The Gourcoff stuff is late this year, usually it happens soon after the window opens. Mind you, we were a bit light in the treatment room last season, this guy could form a good partnership with Sanogo and get us back up to speed on the injury front.

[GP]

Who could forget Hartson and Kiwomya in January 1995 :bow:

I've tried to.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Brigadier Scotty Parker looks like he'll be joining QPR.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9x2MpKiAG0Y/UNMciAFwzwI/AAAAAAAAYgM/3CF0nBD5ZTw/s1600/benny-hill.jpg

[GP]

:haha:

That's his level.

[LDG]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/3966143/benny-hill-chase-o.gif

[AKBapologist]

We can't even sign half decent trailists
http://gossip.ladyarse.com/arsenal/2013/08/13/perez-denied-work-permit-and-returns-to-colombia/?

[Gooner23]

Meh, I was worried Wenger would go for him as the cheap option so I'm not too fussed.

Another cock up though, we shouldn't have been wasting our time with him if there was a doubt over his work permit credentials.

[Grebbo]

We can't even sign half decent trailists
http://gossip.ladyarse.com/arsenal/2013/08/13/perez-denied-work-permit-and-returns-to-colombia/?

:lol:

What a waste of time.

[Ollie the Optimist]

We can't even sign half decent trailists
http://gossip.ladyarse.com/arsenal/2013/08/13/perez-denied-work-permit-and-returns-to-colombia/?

if he was on trail for united, he would have got a work permit. its a joke that

[Grebbo]

if he was on trail for united, he would have got a work permit. its a joke that

:haha:

[Ollie the Optimist]

:haha:

let me just clarify myself. this player might be good, he might not be. im not that bothered anymore but the work permit thing is just a farce. have united ever been turned down for a work permit? no they havnt, yet every other club has porblems with it. this special talent thing also is a joke, if arsenal/chelsea etc etc want to sign you, its most likely you are a special talent yet usually no work permits are given.

[Grebbo]

let me just clarify myself. this player might be good, he might not be. im not that bothered anymore but the work permit thing is just a farce. have united ever been turned down for a work permit? no they havnt, yet every other club has porblems with it. this special talent thing also is a joke, if arsenal/chelsea etc etc want to sign you, its most likely you are a special talent yet usually no work permits are given.

You're 100% certain that Utd have never had a work permit turned down? I need proof tbh cos I don't believe it.

Oh and Arsenal sign lots of shit so the special talent thing doesn't really apply to us.

[Grebbo]

let me just clarify myself. this player might be good, he might not be. im not that bothered anymore but the work permit thing is just a farce. have united ever been turned down for a work permit? no they havnt, yet every other club has porblems with it. this special talent thing also is a joke, if arsenal/chelsea etc etc want to sign you, its most likely you are a special talent yet usually no work permits are given.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1234758/Work-permit-failure-cost-dream-Manchester-United-says-10m-rated-Partizan-Belgrade-prodigy-Adem-Ljajic.html

And

http://metro.co.uk/2013/01/29/work-permit-ended-my-dream-manchester-united-move-says-cskas-pavel-mamaev-3371345/

:rolleyes:

[Marc Overmars]

itz a joke it duzunt appen to man yoo

[Munchies]

We can't even sign half decent trailists
http://gossip.ladyarse.com/arsenal/2013/08/13/perez-denied-work-permit-and-returns-to-colombia/?

:haha:

[Özim]

Bloke must be heartbroken, his stepping stone to a successful club has just been taken away from underneath his feet.

[Munchies]

Bloke must be heartbroken, his stepping stone to a successful club has just been taken away from underneath his feet.
Pretty much lol.

He'll find his way to Porto sooner or later , and then be sold for £35m or so. (That's if he's good)

[Munchies]

Aaron Ramsey fit for Aston Villa clash on Saturday

@GeoffArsenal.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It doesn't stop us signing him and then loaning him out tbf.

[LDG]

It doesn't stop us signing him and then loaning him out tbf.

Signing someone?

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Signing someone?

:haha:

We are always open to signings on frees.

[Ollie the Optimist]

i think the only thing worse then not signing anyone else, is signing a youngster and not being able to play him because of a work permit and having to loan him out

[Japan Shaking All Over]

no wonder we dont get anyone to sign......our thought process is far too elaborate

http://yaleherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/flowchart.jpg

[Japan Shaking All Over]

i think the only thing worse then not signing anyone else, is signing a youngster and not being able to play him because of a work permit and having to loan him out

Id say signing someone like Chamakh....is a tadge worse than that Ollie

[Ollie the Optimist]

Id say signing someone like Chamakh....is a tadge worse than that Ollie

we've jsut sold him. no one mention him again, and lets pretend like it never happened

[Japan Shaking All Over]

yeah but look how long it took us, and we needed to offer him a carrot to go too!

anyway young players signed and sent out on loan is something we are fairly decent at.....Wellington, Campbell,two that probably will never suit up for us

[Ollie the Optimist]

mirror saying if we fail to get suarez, plan B (yeah i stopped reading there, we dont have a plan a let alone plan b) is for michu or dzecko.


this summer :haha:

cunts

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Aaron Ramsey fit for Aston Villa clash on Saturday

@GeoffArsenal.

Oh well won't be winning that game!

[Cripps_orig]

Dzeko is a little awesome. Wouldn't mind him.

Michu needs to do it for one more season at least

[Ollie the Optimist]

in the mirror atricle at the bottom of it, it says bentner has asked for a free transfer from arsenal as his wages are a stumbling block for clubs. so instead of lowering his demands, he asks arsenal to suffer finacally and for him to get his current wages elsewhere.

what an arrogant cunt

[Ollie the Optimist]

the market hasnt moved as expected

thats a leaked quote in one of tomorrows papers.


they wouldnt even try and pull that one would they? cunts

[Marc Overmars]

Wouldn't put anything past this amateur club when it comes to the transfer market.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That's a very obtuse way of just saying: we haven't signed anyone.

[Ollie the Optimist]

i can see them now not spending any money this summer, and then putting prices up for next season citing ew need funds to compete

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ollie's will has well and truly been broken. :rose:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Ollie's will has well and truly been broken. :rose:

yep. i just cant belive we are going into the villa game without spending any money. thats unforgiveable. we arent even close to anyone either. then to say the market hasnt moved as expected. heres an idea, dont wait for the fucking market to move, go ahead and move yourselves and sign the fucking players you want in june. dont fucking wait for others to do it. be first.

[GP]

Market hasn't moved? :lol:

Gazidis's nose will move if he's not careful :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Has Ollie finally seen what's going on?

If so, I would like to say welcome to the good side of the force.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Market hasn't moved? :lol:

Gazidis's nose will move if he's not careful :coffee:

well it has moved. but arsenal were expecting to get certain players, yet some other nasty clubs came in and actually paid money for them. they werent expecting that.

[Niall_Quinn]

let me just clarify myself. this player might be good, he might not be. im not that bothered anymore but the work permit thing is just a farce. have united ever been turned down for a work permit? no they havnt, yet every other club has porblems with it. this special talent thing also is a joke, if arsenal/chelsea etc etc want to sign you, its most likely you are a special talent yet usually no work permits are given.

Don't know why he doesn't come in illegally like everyone else.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Has Ollie finally seen what's going on?

If so, I would like to say welcome to the good side of the force.


yes i have, but if you want me to come out with wenger out stuff, you wont get that. im frimly of the belief that gazidis is more to blame them wenger in this. wenger is to blame, but the CEO is main fuck up this summer. wenger still has credit in teh bank for me. i would rather see gazidis fuck off as he doenst give a flying fuck about us, then wenger. we need a Dein figure back in, and id give one more season to wenger under a new CEO who actually tells him 4th isnt good enough and makes him spend unlike gazidis. if wenger doesnt like that and walks the so be it

[McNamara That Ghost...]

yep. i just cant belive we are going into the villa game without spending any money. thats unforgiveable. we arent even close to anyone either. then to say the market hasnt moved as expected. heres an idea, dont wait for the fucking market to move, go ahead and move yourselves and sign the fucking players you want in june. dont fucking wait for others to do it. be first.

I can't disagree. Arsenal. :rose:

They'll get us all in the end.

[Ollie the Optimist]

this is the funniest and most accurate way to describe our summer. read this on twitter


Arsenal couldn't arrange a molesting in Jimmy Saville's dressing room.

[Cripps_orig]

Hasn't turned fully yet I see

It's a start I guess.

Do not forget, it was Wenger who chose Gazidis for this job. It is Wenger who makes the decisions on who to buy, sell, tactics etc. 3 things we suck at. Selling in that we get shit money for star players.

[Niall_Quinn]

mirror saying if we fail to get suarez, plan B (yeah i stopped reading there, we dont have a plan a let alone plan b) is for michu or dzecko.


this summer :haha:

cunts

I can see City and Swansea being very keen to do business 3 days before the kick off. Anyway, we'd have to pay the asking price (unlikely) and then hope no other club was interested. Nobody is coming, the board has ended up with millions more in the kitty - how unlucky is that for the poor bastards?

[Ollie the Optimist]

Hasn't turned fully yet I see

It's a start I guess.

Do not forget, it was Wenger who chose Gazidis for this job. It is Wenger who makes the decisions on who to buy, sell, tactics etc. 3 things we suck at. Selling in that we get shit money for star players.

and do not forget, it was wenger who won two doubles, an unbeaten season, 4 fa cups.

ive made my points about how i think he can stay. he won trophies with someone putting pressure on him.( Dein) go back to that and he will win again, he isnt a CEO he is a football manger. its time he stopped acting like a CEO and we had a CEO who did the fucking job. if wenger doenst like losing control, and he walks. then everyones happy. id rather get rid of the board right now, they clearly dont give a fuck about us but i still believe wenger cares

[Niall_Quinn]

thats a leaked quote in one of tomorrows papers.


they wouldnt even try and pull that one would they? cunts

Big transfers from the minute the window opened, millions flying around everywhere. I guess they expected the market to suddenly transform into a sensible place where the fees tumbled, the players demanded less and the agents accepted it was a fair cop. Amazing it hasn't happened, who could have known? Again, the board is very unlucky.

[KSE Comedy Club]

and do not forget, it was wenger who won two doubles, an unbeaten season, 4 fa cups.

ive made my points about how i think he can stay. he won trophies with someone putting pressure on him.( Dein) go back to that and he will win again, he isnt a CEO he is a football manger. its time he stopped acting like a CEO and we had a CEO who did the fucking job. if wenger doenst like losing control, and he walks. then everyones happy. id rather get rid of the board right now, they clearly dont give a fuck about us but i still believe wenger cares
Ollie, he's done fuck all for the last 8 years. Won nothing, refuses to properly strengthen, doesn't change tactics, etc

[Ollie the Optimist]

Ollie, he's done fuck all for the last 8 years. Won nothing, refuses to properly strengthen, doesn't change tactics, etc

i made my points about why he should be given one more season and the board go instead. im not going to change. hes kept in the top four, its not great in terms of trophies but with no money, its impressive. he does do tactics, thats a stupid suggestion. as i said he won before when someone else did transfers, when somoene put pressure on him. he needs taht again. if that happens ill give him a chance. i still feel he cares, the board dont. get rid of them first. ill never want wenger out, i love the man too much.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ollie, he's done fuck all for the last 8 years. Won nothing, refuses to properly strengthen, doesn't change tactics, etc

He's steered about £200mill in CL revenues into the bank vault and that's all the board cares about.

[Cripps_orig]

and do not forget, it was wenger who won two doubles, an unbeaten season, 4 fa cups.

ive made my points about how i think he can stay. he won trophies with someone putting pressure on him.( Dein) go back to that and he will win again, he isnt a CEO he is a football manger. its time he stopped acting like a CEO and we had a CEO who did the fucking job. if wenger doenst like losing control, and he walks. then everyones happy. id rather get rid of the board right now, they clearly dont give a fuck about us but i still believe wenger cares

A long time ago which can no longer be used to keep him in a job. Too much has changed/happened.

Wenger has been complicit in everything and is as much to blame as the board. If anything more so cos the one thing I do care about this club for is on the pitch stuff which is Wengers job. All the financial shit I don't have much interest in. Biggest criticism I've had of the board is not letting Wenger go.

He used to be a winner, someone who would try to win by any means necessary. He's not that anymore. The greed has taken over. That winning mentality has gone. If it hadn't then he wouldn't stand for the so called aim of the board to finish top 4 every season and win no trophies. No manager with any dignity would.

Getting rid of the board and bringing in Usmanov would be awesome. That won't happen. Getting rid of Wenger might be the only way. His contract is up in a year. Let him go. This coming season is already a write off and safely stacks in to the different season, same old shit pile.

Next summer though could well be the greatest of all time. We might get our Arsenal back. It is our one hope, our only hope that all fans are clinging on to.

[KSE Comedy Club]

i made my points about why he should be given one more season and the board go instead. im not going to change. hes kept in the top four, its not great in terms of trophies but with no money, its impressive. he does do tactics, thats a stupid suggestion. as i said he won before when someone else did transfers, when somoene put pressure on him. he needs taht again. if that happens ill give him a chance. i still feel he cares, the board dont. get rid of them first. ill never want wenger out, i love the man too much.
I know how you feel about wenger, but surely Ollie, you must be able to see that wenger is the problem???

You even admit it yourself, that he doesn't like losing control, etc.
You can't really blame gazidis, wenger helped pick him for the job, he has too much power.

No one can come in and tell wenger what to do, his journey into megolomania is virtually complete.

[Ollie the Optimist]

there isnt any point debating this. i cant be arsed, its been done to many times. we wont agree and im not changing my stance. i will never want wenger to be forced out. i wont change from that. i love that man, hes a hero of mine. no one will ever change that

[Niall_Quinn]

Bit gay

[Ollie the Optimist]

I know how you feel about wenger, but surely Ollie, you must be able I see that wenger is the problem???

You even admit it yourself, that he doesn't like losing control, etc.
You can't really blame gazidis, wenger helped pick him for the job, he has too much power.

No one can come in and tell wenger what to do, his journey into megolomania is virtually complete.

as i said, if someone comes in and tells wenger what to do, and he doesnt like it, he'll walk. everyone wins then. the board have a CEO prepared to put pressure on somone, the manager goes so the board and manager work in harmony together with the right people in the right roles, not one man doing everything (if these accusations are true) but for me, the lack of transfers isnt wengwrs fault 100%. hes always dithered, its the boards fault for promising the signings and failing to deliver.

[GP]

Can't even be bothered to get into the debate.

Ollie has super super #patience

[Cripps_orig]

there isnt any point debating this. i cant be arsed, its been done to many times. we wont agree and im not changing my stance. i will never want wenger to be forced out. i wont change from that. i love that man, hes a hero of mine. no one will ever change that
Well then the only question is what matters more to you, Arsenal or Wenger?

Can't be both cos it's contradictory. Pick Arsenal and that means you can't be happy with the shit going on which Wenger is a massive part in

Pick Wenger and you're happy with the current situation of never buying players of sufficient quality, tickets costing a bomb, shit tactics, no challenge for trophies etc.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Well then the only question is what matters more to you, Arsenal or Wenger?

Can't be both cos it's contradictory. Pick Arsenal and that means you can't be happy with the shit going on which Wenger is a massive part in

Pick Wenger and you're happy with the current situation of never buying l,ayers of sufficient quality, tickets costing a bomb, shut tactics, no challenge for trophies etc.

that question only works if wenger is at fault for everything. he isnt. in my mind wenger is being thrown under a bus like he has been before by the board.

i want whats best for Arsenal, and in my mind, the man to give us the best is wenger. under new guidance, with a better CEO who knows his football not his buisness. who challenges wenger to win things.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are considering moves for Swansea attacking midfielder Michu, 27, and Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko, 27, as their hopes of signing Liverpool forward Luis Suarez, 26, fade.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Napoli are preparing a late bid for Bayern Munich midfielder Luiz Gustavo. The 26-year-old is set to announce his future plans on Wednesday, with Arsenal one of the clubs interested in his signature.
Full story: Daily Mail

Serie A side Juventus could sell right-back Stephan Lichtsteiner, 29, to Arsenal as they look to raise funds for Ajax midfielder Christian Eriksen, 21, who has been a target for Liverpool and Tottenham.
Full story; Daily Express


Get all 3 in

Looks like Napoli have their man

Lichtsteiner is very good. Bring him home

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Get all 3 in

Looks like Napoli have their man

Lichtsteiner is very good. Bring him home

would rather have christian eriksen to be honest

[selassie]

that question only works if wenger is at fault for everything. he isnt. in my mind wenger is being thrown under a bus like he has been before by the board.

i want whats best for Arsenal, and in my mind, the man to give us the best is wenger. under new guidance, with a better CEO who knows his football not his buisness. who challenges wenger to win things.

Wenger is most certainly at fault for this disaster of a window. He is sitting on a 100million transfer kitty and all he has to show for it is a crocked french kid.

It's not even funny anymore, I honestly cannot believe how much we have screwed up this window.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

that question only works if wenger is at fault for everything. he isnt. in my mind wenger is being thrown under a bus like he has been before by the board.




i want whats best for Arsenal, and in my mind, the man to give us the best is wenger. under new guidance, with a better CEO who knows his football not his buisness. who challenges wenger to win things.








Frankly this is a man who went long past his best years ago, his ability to attract the young talent he used to procure for the club has been stymied by the fact that this is now a trick that clubs are wise to and the selling clubs slap a price tag on these young players that wenger isn't prepared to pay.....therefore his cheap option are often players who aren't anywhere near good enough for the club and are clogging our wage bill.
Rightly or wrongly football has changed....and Wenger has failed to adapt....the players we have at the club are largely unable to play the pass and move style of football that Wenger enjoys and we have tended only to be successful with our current team when employing a deep lying counter attacking style (which doesn't work against most of the top sides who can defend against us well because we lack pace). Our ten match unbeaten run was largely build on defensive solidity and i don't believe for a second Wenger is behind this otherwise why weren't we that solid in defence for the whole season....more than likely this is Steve Bould's influence where he is probably the only person left at the club prepared to put his foot down and stand up to Wenger when it came to defensive set up.
Frankly i'd rather take the risk with someone new than let this current stagnation continue year in, year out qualifying for the Champions League by the skin of our teeth and somehow being pathetically grateful for it and thinking this will be the summer where the paucity of quality in our squad will be addressed.
I don't think any other manager managing a club at our level would have persisted with players like Ramsey and Arteta week in week out despite the fact that they are constantly found out by teams with more pace and bite in midfield, and if the lack of spending is purely the board's fault (which i see no evidence that it is) than surely he would petition them for more funds or looked to have moved on by now but it isn't just loyalty he is content to stick to his comfort zone and take minimal risk.
For me this is a man who long ago lost his edge, and whilst yes he is still pulling off something of an achievement by getting us into the top four (especially the last two seasons) he lacks the nous or seemingly the ambition to have us competing for trophies. *
I don't dislike Arsene Wenger and i never will but his infuriating stubborness has turned into an entrenchment and with a lack of a more forceful board or competent chief executive in place the only way to bring about any meaningful change in our fortunes is for Wenger to go.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That said i am hoping he won't need to be pushed, i am hoping that he will delay signing a new contract until the end of the season and yet again if he fails to deliver anything he will simply walk away....i think if we end the transfer window without making significant investment and he signs a new contract i will have lost all respect for him.

[Cripps_orig]

would rather have christian eriksen to be honest

Very good player. Better than anyone we have in our midfield by some distance.

Can't see him wanting to take a step down to join us

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

i know we are not exactly big fish at the moment, but i don't think even we are a step down with the Eredivise

He'd join us but spending money on a decent attacking player would make no sense to "too cool for school" Wenger

[Cripps_orig]

Hopefully Bergkamp and Overmars can have a word and tell him of how awesome we used to be back when they played for us instead of how we are now

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger is most certainly at fault for this disaster of a window. He is sitting on a 100million transfer kitty and all he has to show for it is a crocked french kid.

It's not even funny anymore, I honestly cannot believe how much we have screwed up this window.

Nobody screwed up anything. We were expert in our under-bidding and not a single penny escaped the coffers.

[Niall_Quinn]

would rather have christian eriksen to be honest

He's still in contract so there's no way to get him on a free, which makes it impossible to get him. Also the market has not moved as expected making things twice as impossible. I don't see the harm in putting in a laughably low bid though, because we want to keep the fans happy of course.

[Niall_Quinn]

So have we reached the point where absolutely anyone will do? Or do we prefer nothing over a mad trolley dash?

[Özim]

Wenger is preparing to get Dale Winton in for the annual supermarket sweep.

[LDG]

I'll cheer on the starting 11 on Saturday regardless. They're not to blame here.

I feel sorry for the team (leaving all thoughts of wages aside).

They don't even have any back up now, let alone the quality we need, and have been told we'll get.

The management are a disgrace for putting us in this position 3 days before kick off. And while the money men should be doing more to make sure we're competing in the market, Wenger is powerful enough to do business if he stopped being so fucking whimpy an stubborn.

[Munchies]

Now I just saw this, the biggest wumming Wenger could do is to sign Higuain ... His older brother who plays in the MLS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgvH8qJYQ8E

Good goal however , 25 yard chip

[Letters]

He's still in contract so there's no way to get him on a free, which makes it impossible to get him. Also the market has not moved as expected making things twice as impossible. I don't see the harm in putting in a laughably low bid though, because we want to keep the fans happy of course.
Yeah, that's definitely what they're doing and it's working really well.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

mirror saying if we fail to get suarez, plan B (yeah i stopped reading there, we dont have a plan a let alone plan b) is for michu or dzecko.


this summer :haha:

cunts

I would take either but they are not the same kind of player that Suarez is......and the prospect of him would have been awlsome......anyhow how long do the Mirror think it will take to land one of those two......will takean out of proportion bid to extract one of them in enough time

[Gooner23]

We've been shafted lads, again. As LDG said, I do feel a bit sorry for the players. Even they were screaming out for new signings.

With IG running his mouth at the beginning of the summer the club have nowhere to hide.

[Xhaka Can’t]

i made my points about why he should be given one more season
Yeah, you've made that point for at least four years now.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

fucking hell lets cut the bollocks out and start paying some release clauses and get some fucking players in.

jackson martinez - 34m. just do it
Geoffrey Kondogbia 8m - just do it
fellaini - 23m - just fucking do it

thats 65m odd, less than our supposed war chest!

we need to stop dithering and just pay the fucking fee for gods sake!

we can still bid for players like damiao, hulk, gustavo, cesar etc but got those 3 fuckers in now, stop fucking around and just pay the fee!!!

we gna end up with darren bent arent we!

[Gooner23]

The Fellaini release clause expired so I don't think we were ever interested in him.

The only positive I can take is that it's made IG look like a complete tool. The backlash from fans will be huge if (when) we have another poor season, and I don't think Wenger can be offered a new contract.

[Ollie the Optimist]

this summer has made gazidis posistion untenable. he can't stay on after those lies to us, again.


though i cant wait for his next Q&A session, suspect it might be a while though :lol:

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRnF4xQCEAAThPM.jpg

[Marc Overmars]

We've been shafted lads, again. As LDG said, I do feel a bit sorry for the players. Even they were screaming out for new signings.

With IG running his mouth at the beginning of the summer the club have nowhere to hide.

It's pure incompetence. There are no excuses for what's happened so far this summer, even clubs worse off than us have a strategy in place and make the most of the resources they have. Why is it that every other club seems to get their business done yet for us signing players appears to be the hardest task in the world? The saddest part is that no one will be held accountable.

[Syn]

Deadline day move for Benteke awaits. Might throw one in for Fellaini too if Man Utd don't bid.

We needed a lot better.

[LDG]

this summer has made gazidis posistion untenable. he can't stay on after those lies to us, again.


though i cant wait for his next Q&A session, suspect it might be a while though :lol:

I actually don't think he's lied this time round.

He may have been incompetent, by failing to get Wenger to deliver, or fucking up negotiations (assuming we had any negotiations to make).

But Wenger is most at fault here. Not necessarily because he's an idiot or bad person, moreso that he has whimped out of spending money. He wants to work in football, yet he is too stubborn, too idealistic and too slow to work in todays market. A market where you get left behind very quickly, and a climate where you can't make a side on the cheap anymore.

But what really pins this on him, is the excuses he is making....no longer on behalf of the club, but on behalf of himself....and that is not something we should entertain. There is one thing defending his employer, but to make excuses to cover his own personal hesitant tendancies and moralistic crusade, shows a lack of class, IMO.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why we are left with a threadbare squad. The groundwork was done, and we battled to get to this position. Now we're going to be back where we started.

[Gooner23]

this summer has made gazidis posistion untenable. he can't stay on after those lies to us, again.


though i cant wait for his next Q&A session, suspect it might be a while though :lol:

Although unrealistic, I would argue that it is Wenger's position that has become untenable. He won't be fired of course, but I lay the blame solely on him. He calls the shots, and wouldn't accept a CEO telling him what to do. Which is why IG is there, a yes man.

I think IG's public quotes were designed to leverage pressure on Wenger to spend, but the stubborn git just won't compromise his (outdated) ideology.

[selassie]

I would take either but they are not the same kind of player that Suarez is......and the prospect of him would have been awlsome......anyhow how long do the Mirror think it will take to land one of those two......will takean out of proportion bid to extract one of them in enough time

Honestly...I don't particularly rate Michu that much higher if at all than Giroud. He'll score goals in PL...but will be found wanting at the highest level.

Spurs signed a Striker who starts for Spain..yet we get linked with one who can't even make their squad at a time when they have their weakest set of forwards in years.

Dzeko I wouldn't mind at all, I like him and think he's an upgrade on Giroud...but he lacks pace.

We've backed ourselves in a corner now, not only have we not strengthened but we've reduced the numbers in the squad that we have no choice but to buy now and we know Uncle Arsene loves a bargain.

Effectively we'll be replacing deadwood with deadwood.

Oh what a mess...

[Gooner23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRnF4xQCEAAThPM.jpg

:lol:

[selassie]

I actually don't think he's lied this time round.

He may have been incompetent, by failing to get Wenger to deliver, or fucking up negotiations (assuming we had any negotiations to make).

But Wenger is most at fault here. Not necessarily because he's an idiot or bad person, moreso that he has whimped out of spending money. He wants to work in football, yet he is too stubborn, too idealistic and too slow to work in todays market. A market where you get left behind very quickly, and a climate where you can't make a side on the cheap anymore.

But what really pins this on him, is the excuses he is making....no longer on behalf of the club, but on behalf of himself....and that is not something we should entertain. There is one thing defending his employer, but to make excuses to cover his own personal hesitant tendancies and moralistic crusade, shows a lack of class, IMO.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why we are left with a threadbare squad. The groundwork was done, and we battled to get to this position. Now we're going to be back where we started.

:gp:

[Marc Overmars]

I actually don't think he's lied this time round.

He may have been incompetent, by failing to get Wenger to deliver, or fucking up negotiations (assuming we had any negotiations to make).

But Wenger is most at fault here. Not necessarily because he's an idiot or bad person, moreso that he has whimped out of spending money. He wants to work in football, yet he is too stubborn, too idealistic and too slow to work in todays market. A market where you get left behind very quickly, and a climate where you can't make a side on the cheap anymore.

But what really pins this on him, is the excuses he is making....no longer on behalf of the club, but on behalf of himself....and that is not something we should entertain. There is one thing defending his employer, but to make excuses to cover his own personal hesitant tendancies and moralistic crusade, shows a lack of class, IMO.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why we are left with a threadbare squad. The groundwork was done, and we battled to get to this position. Now we're going to be back where we started.

Spot on. I genuinely don't think he's comfortable having money to spend.

[GP]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMJVCTdCIAAu53o.jpg

[LDG]

Rooney's coming home :bow:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Spot on. I genuinely don't think he's comfortable having money to spend.

i dont think he is either which is why he needs that Dein figure back. Dein used to ask wenger who he wanted, and then just sign them while wenger dithered anyway. he wouldnt listen to wengers idea about the price, he jsut signed him. wenger was a winner when he had someone doing that. and i still think he will be a winner if he has someone doing that again.

otherwise i cant really argue with what LDG said

[Ralpheroo72]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMJVCTdCIAAu53o.jpg

Bet wenger made him pay for lunch

[Gooner23]

The issue for me though is that he has become so powerful he won't accept a CEO coming in and telling himn what to do.

Its sad to see, as I've been a supporter of his even during the tough times. But I would be fully behind him not being offered a new contract and leaving next summer (he won't be sacked). We need change, and I don't think a new CEO would bring that whilst Wenger is still here.

[Özim]

I don't know what's wrong with some of you, I think some people are just never happy.

You wanted a new striker, he signed a new striker, you wanted rid of the deadwood, he got rid of the deadwood.

FFS you can't please some people.

[Ollie the Optimist]

The issue for me though is that he has become so powerful he won't accept a CEO coming in and telling himn what to do.

Its sad to see, as I've been a supporter of his even during the tough times. But I would be fully behind him not being offered a new contract and leaving next summer (he won't be sacked). We need change, and I don't think a new CEO would bring that whilst Wenger is still here.

the only person who could come in and control wenger is Dein. i believe they are still close friends. but Dein is no angel, superb in the transfer market but he did sell out too. its such a fuck up

[Munchies]

Should have just bought fucking Higuain ffs

The only person to blame is Wenger, the fucking cunt.

[Özim]

Should have just bought fucking Higuain ffs

The only person to blame is Wenger, the fucking cunt.
:sigh: Come on, everyone knows there was no movement in the market at that time. You can't force things, you've got to let things come to you in their own time.

[Power n Glory]

Maybe it’s best we go into the new season as we are and without spending money. Unless this is some brilliant and well calculated transfer strategy, it’s best Wenger keeps his hand in his pockets. A last minute shopping dash is too much of a gamble. I’d rather we kept the money in the bank for a new manager. Wenger will walk if this season is another write off. It’s going to be an ugly exit for the man. His pride and ego will get the better of him when the fans and English press turn on him. No need for a sacking, he just won’t sign a new deal and talk some guff about not outstaying his welcome. It’s going to be sad end for him at this rate.

[Munchies]

I mean all those 'Higuain is close' stories, got all of us excited for the season ahead. Higuain got so close that a case had to filed against Wenger or something. These fuckers in charge of the club have fucked us off the wrong way for too long now. £300m Puma deal, who the fuck cares. Beyond pissed off , fuck even going to the stadium and wasting £60+ each time to line the coffers.

[Munchies]

Also look at Klopp, knows Lewandowski is going, Gotze went, he went out and got replacements who can get the job done,

Aubamayang / Mkhtaryan , Aubamayang scored a hattrick in his first game

[Ollie the Optimist]

Maybe it’s best we go into the new season as we are and without spending money. Unless this is some brilliant and well calculated transfer strategy, it’s best Wenger keeps his hand in his pockets. A last minute shopping dash is too much of a gamble. I’d rather we kept the money in the bank for a new manager. Wenger will walk if this season is another write off. It’s going to be an ugly exit for the man. His pride and ego will get the better of him when the fans and English press turn on him. No need for a sacking, he just won’t sign a new deal and talk some guff about not outstaying his welcome. It’s going to be sad end for him at this rate.

there is no good reason not to spend money, even if it means wenger goes. the reason for that, is this squad is good enough to beat the best on their day, its not got enough depth to last the season. if we dont spend money now, we will be lucky to get euorpa league football next year. the new manager will come in and have a shit load of cash to spend but no top players to sign, why would they sign for a europa league club when they will most likely be at champions league clubs themselves? spending no money is a fucktarded plan, no good will come of it even if it means the end of wenger as some want. the damage will be too great

[Gooner23]

Maybe it’s best we go into the new season as we are and without spending money. Unless this is some brilliant and well calculated transfer strategy, it’s best Wenger keeps his hand in his pockets. A last minute shopping dash is too much of a gamble. I’d rather we kept the money in the bank for a new manager. Wenger will walk if this season is another write off. It’s going to be an ugly exit for the man. His pride and ego will get the better of him when the fans and English press turn on him. No need for a sacking, he just won’t sign a new deal and talk some guff about not outstaying his welcome. It’s going to be sad end for him at this rate.

Yeah I agree. If he's not going to spend proper money on quality, Id rather not have a load of last minute bargain basement dross. We only just cleared the last lot out!

[Cripps_orig]

Don't worry guys.

We still have our world renowned youth players who can come in and do a job.

I'm sure losing 5-1 to Colchester United last night to follow on from the Luton humiliation will have no bearing...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8869488/

Perez. :rose:

[Munchies]

Okay this is a list of players we are likely to get, no fees upfront, shit load on wages which Wenger prefers:

Carlton Cole
Anton Ferdinand
Papa Bouba Diop

All free agents, all available to sign today .

[Cripps_orig]

Diop :lol:

I remember him

[Marc Overmars]

there is no good reason not to spend money, even if it means wenger goes. the reason for that, is this squad is good enough to beat the best on their day, its not got enough depth to last the season. if we dont spend money now, we will be lucky to get euorpa league football next year. the new manager will come in and have a shit load of cash to spend but no top players to sign, why would they sign for a europa league club when they will most likely be at champions league clubs themselves? spending no money is a fucktarded plan, no good will come of it even if it means the end of wenger as some want. the damage will be too great

The damage is done all ready. Our reputation is in the gutter.

[Munchies]

Diop :lol:

I remember him

Wasn't there a chance Wenger was looking at signing him 10 years ago ?:lol:

Could happen now in all seriousness :coffee:

[I_Killed_Kenny]

is he still top top top quality cos if he isnt then a free signing may prove too expensive!

[Cripps_orig]

Wasn't there a chance Wenger was looking at signing him 10 years ago ?:lol:

Could happen now in all seriousness :coffee:

Vieiras replacement I believe

[Özim]

I'm sure losing 5-1 to Colchester United last night to follow on from the Luton humiliation will have no bearing...

That was just bad luck and poor refereeing to be honest.

[Cripps_orig]

The likes of Eisfeld and zimzalazim are awful

[Grebbo]

If we drop points at home to Villa then the shit will hit the fan. When this team loses it's first game it'll turn into a run of shocking form that we get every season. Wenger must love getting dogs abuse from his own fans, I can't think of any other reason why he hasn't strengthened the team at least a little bit!! FFS!!

[Power n Glory]

there is no good reason not to spend money, even if it means wenger goes. the reason for that, is this squad is good enough to beat the best on their day, its not got enough depth to last the season. if we dont spend money now, we will be lucky to get euorpa league football next year. the new manager will come in and have a shit load of cash to spend but no top players to sign, why would they sign for a europa league club when they will most likely be at champions league clubs themselves? spending no money is a fucktarded plan, no good will come of it even if it means the end of wenger as some want. the damage will be too great

Spending money without a plan is what’s fucktarded. It’s clear there isn’t one in place and the last thing we need is Wenger to leave us in a Liverpool situation. The team is in bad shape and if he pisses money up the wall in his last year it leaves the next manager without a pot to piss in. Even if we spend money at this stage, I have no faith in him at all to use it wisely or get us further up the table.

[Marc Overmars]

If we drop points at home to Villa then the shit will hit the fan. When this team loses it's first game it'll turn into a run of shocking form that we get every season. Wenger must love getting dogs abuse from his own fans, I can't think of any other reason why he hasn't strengthened the team at least a little bit!! FFS!!

http://northlondonisred.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/wenger.jpg

[Munchies]

Surely there's a hidden clause in Wenger's contract, that in addition to his £7m a year, that he gets to keep 60% of what remains in the warchest to take home with him ?

[Ollie the Optimist]

If we drop points at home to Villa then the shit will hit the fan. When this team loses it's first game it'll turn into a run of shocking form that we get every season. Wenger must love getting dogs abuse from his own fans, I can't think of any other reason why he hasn't strengthened the team at least a little bit!! FFS!!

as soon as villa take the lead shit will hit the fan. well for once the emirates might acutally be quite loud and have an intimidating atmosphere.

just a shame it will be loud and intimating against our own, not the opposition.


sweepstake time. what minute will the first "spend some fucking money" chant be heard. i reckon 7 minutes

[LDG]

Surely there's a hidden clause in Wenger's contract, that in addition to his £7m a year, that he gets to keep 60% of what remains in the warchest to take home with him ?

Nah, I think he just gets to take Diaby with him to use as super super top top quality hat/sleeping bag coat stand.

[Munchies]

Nah, I think he just gets to take Diaby with him to use as super super top top quality hat/sleeping bag coat stand.

That got me ! :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

as soon as villa take the lead shit will hit the fan. well for once the emirates might acutally be quite loud and have an intimidating atmosphere.

just a shame it will be loud and intimating against our own, not the opposition.


sweepstake time. what minute will the first "spend some fucking money" chant be heard. i reckon 7 minutes

We still have a shiny new stadium that's too expensive to get into (owned by the club) - never forget that. All we've had to pay in return is double ticket prices, an absolute decline in the football standard, the departure of all our best players and a comprehensive lack of success on the pitch. But there was the promise of a big pay-off once the plan unfolded. Profits are up, sponsorship deals arranged, merchandising on the up, a big pile of cash in the bank. So finally, after all these years, the net result for the fans is... Yaya Sanogo. Poor guy, it's not his fault of course.

In a way it's lucky they didn't mention any of this before we quit Highbury. I have a feeling some of the fans wouldn't have gone along with it. Any chants from the seats won't make any difference. If they are prepared to rob the club of everything in such a blatant manner then a few chants won't stand in their way.

[Munchies]

It depends really on how much longer Wenger continues with all this BS, the new stadium was meant to allow us to compete with the big guns.

What's the use if it isn't spent ? I'd much rather we had stayed at Highbury and made small but frequent signings every year to improve the squad, rather than being in a position when we're so shit and at the bare bones that we need back up and cover in nearly every place of the pitch.

Get Wenger out now, enough is enough ffs.

Gustavo isn't coming to us either, he's going to Napoli/Barca ...

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRn0vMyCAAATKqt.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRn3F9uCAAAgn7x.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BRn2bUpCEAApMpT.jpg:large

:haha:

[Munchies]

Holy shit !

Spurs sell Tom Huddlestone for £5.25m to Hull !

http://i.imgur.com/vj1IG.gif

[Xhaka Can’t]

Bet wenger made him pay for lunch

:lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

The damage is done all ready. Our reputation is in the gutter.

Agreed. When the reaction was "why would Suarez leave Liverpool to join Arsenal", there was no malice. Just genuine incredulity.

[Özim]

Surely there's a hidden clause in Wenger's contract, that in addition to his £7m a year, that he gets to keep 60% of what remains in the warchest to take home with him ?

Yup there is, the Santa Clause.

[LDG]

Not that I think it's anywhere near the same, but it was about this stage last summer when RVP was supposed to have been encouraged by the signing of Giroud and Podolski, and that he was considering staying put.

We won't get Suarez, unless we offer 50mil. That still stands.

[Özim]

Not that I think it's anywhere near the same, but it was about this stage last summer when RVP was supposed to have been encouraged by the signing of Giroud and Podolski, and that he was considering staying put.

Then he talked to Wenger and found out about his plans in the transfer market.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

Plans? :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

saw our squad list this morning. of the 20 first team players, 8 are apparently injured.


this summer is going to get even worse when its announced bentner is on the bench on saturday

[Cripps_orig]

I remember the days when Bendtner was praised on here.

I hate being right :(

[Özil's Panoramic View]

I'm not the least bit worried about the coming season and our threadbare squad. This as it all boils down to expectations and realistically, I cant see us coming any higher than 4th again. Furthermore, Wenger, as deluded as he might be, is still a cunning old fox who's well aware of the shitness of the league. As such, he'll replenish the squad with more Arteta standard players before the window slams shut, thereby ensuring another glorious hold on the much coveted 4th place trophy come end of season. All will then be forgiven as he's once again hailed as a genius for spending bare minimum en route to securing CL footie, and more importantly, ensuring that the scum remain our shadow dwellers.

Summer then comes and Groundhog Day continues ad nauseum.

[Munchies]

Surely the scum can't remain in the lurch forever, how shit do we have to get for that to happen ?

Last season was meant to be their year, and now this season it seems even more likely.

They've spent money and got rid of shit players, all the while there is still a chance Bale could stay.

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRLbeFKBtw

:lol:

[Özim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRLbeFKBtw

:lol:

Great times, seems such a long time ago now, winning the league was such a special moment wasn't it. The players look so happy!

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Surely the scum can't remain in the lurch forever, how shit do we have to get for that to happen ?

Last season was meant to be their year, and now this season it seems even more likely.

They've spent money and got rid of shit players, all the while there is still a chance Bale could stay.

Never question or underestimate the level of scum shitness, my pal. In all fairness, doing so should really have been a bannable offence on here, but for Letters' benevolence and penchant for overlooking slights.

I reckon this season they'll be clear by about 12 points and we'll still catch and nick their pathetic arse for 4th again.

[Ollie the Optimist]

wellington silvea has signed on a season long loan for someone. have we got any players left now?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

wellington silvea has signed on a season long loan for someone. have we got any players left now?


Bit of a different story with Beef Wellington as he is sent out on loan because he can't get a work permit, because he doesn't have a EU passport and isn't doing sexual favours for anyone in the home office

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRLbeFKBtw

:lol:

Reaction to Chamakh being sold.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRLbeFKBtw

:lol:

That us so cringeworthy and embarrassing.

An embarrassing day for our once great club

[Özim]

Maybe we should try and sign Diego Ribas da Cunha, may be available on the cheap.

[Cripps_orig]

One of CKs "world class" players along with Ishmael Miller, Benzema and other players I can't remember

[Marc Overmars]

I remember when Diego and Robinho were huge news at Santos.

Now they're a bit shit.

Take heed Neymar...

[Cripps_orig]

I remember when Diego and Robinho were huge news at Santos.

Now they're a bit shit.

Take heed Neymar...

Apparently he's already caught something in Barcelona.

Scolari not happy

[Munchies]

Our squad and who's injured in bold for Villa

Chesney
fabianski

Sanga
Monreal
BFG
Jenkinson
Vermaelen
Gibbs
Kosc

Arteta
Rosiky
Cazorla
Diaby
Wilshere
Frimpong
Ramsey
Miyachi

Podolski
Sanogo
Giroud
Wallcott
OX
Park He'll never play :lol:
Bendtner

[GP]

Spain were pumping Nacho with painkillers to play in the fucking confed cup.

Wankers.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal re-open Sagna talks & target Uchida

Arsene Wenger makes an effort to reinforce his defence, with the Schalke right-back seen as a long-term successor to the Frenchman in competition with Carl Jenkinson

Arsenal have made a fresh attempt to reinforce their defence by reopening contract talks with Bacary Sagna and making a move for Schalke right-back Atsuto Uchida, Goal can reveal.

It is understood that Sagna's representatives recommenced talks on a new deal with the club earlier in August but the two parties did not reach an agreement and it is still anticipated that he will leave when his contract expires next summer.

Arsene Wenger has now targeted Japanese defender Uchida to provide defensive cover this season and be groomed as a long-term replacement for Sagna. The Gunners have made recent contact with Schalke to enquire about signing the 25-year-old in the final weeks of the summer window.

Wenger wants a right-back who can fit in with the Gunners' playing style and be groomed to challenge Carl Jenkinson for the first-team slot if Sagna leaves.

Negotiations between Sagna and Arsenal collapsed at the end of last year after the Gunners refused to meet the player's demands for a two-year extension and an upgrade on his £60,000-a-week salary. He has entered the final year of his contract and can depart the Emirates Stadium on a free at the end of the season if there is no formal breakthrough in discussions.

Nevertheless, Wenger wants to hold on to Sagna this season because of the versatility that he brings to the defence.

The France international has filled in as a makeshift centre-back during pre-season in the absence of club captain Thomas Vermaelen, who is out until October with a back injury.

Arsenal have made moves to sign a fourth senior central defender this summer to challenge Per Mertesacker, Laurent Koscielny and Vermaelen but have been unable to agree deals for principal targets Ashley Williams and Matthias Ginter.

Wenger has now shifted his focus to Uchida, who has two years remaining on his Schalke contract and could be available for around €5.9 million. The Japan international spoke earlier this year of his ambition to play in the Premier League.

Wenger also retains an interest in Sochaux right-back Sebastien Corchia, who is highly regarded in his native France.

The Arsenal boss had been ready to sell Sagna this summer following a breakdown in his relationship with the club in the final months of last season and question marks about his attitude. However, Paris Saint-Germain failed to follow up their interest in the France international with a concerted move and he is understood to have knuckled down well in pre-season.



Looks like Sagna is our new CB and this pub teamer will come in at right back

[Munchies]

sasuke uchiha :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

Sanogo is injured for the Villa match?

:haha:

What a horrific signing.

Forgot we had Monreal. He's not been good.

In fact none of the players injured bar maybe Vermaelen has much of a future here

[Munchies]

Sanogo is injured for the Villa match?

:haha:

What a horrific signing.

Forgot we had Monreal. He's not been good.

In fact none of the players injured bar maybe Vermaelen has much of a future here

He was delivering a letter to a house and the dog bit his hand through the letter box.

[Munchies]

Spain were pumping Nacho with painkillers to play in the fucking confed cup.

Wankers.

did he even play ? cant even remember seeing him

[Munchies]

Didn't really see too much of Monreal to justify his £11m move, but his goal against West Brom ( I think ) proved valuable enough in the end. Think Gibbs starts ahead of him for now though

[Marc Overmars]

did he even play ? cant even remember seeing him

Yeah he was involved.

Spain are ****s.

[Cripps_orig]

Think he played v Tahiti.

He wasn't good.

His goal v Swansea was important but he was raped like a bitch against QPR and Aston Villa and hopefully he's sold to a Rayo Vallecano and Baines comes home

[Gooner23]

Our squad and who's injured in bold for Villa

Chesney
fabianski

Sanga
Monreal
BFG
Jenkinson
Vermaelen
Gibbs
Kosc

Arteta
Rosiky
Cazorla
Diaby
Wilshere
Frimpong
Ramsey
Miyachi

Podolski
Sanogo
Giroud
Wallcott
OX
Park He'll never play :lol:
Bendtner

So going by that (and excluding Bendtner for obvious reasons), we have 15 senior players available.. 3 outfield subs.

Our squad :bow:

[Master Splinter]

Didn't really see too much of Monreal to justify his £11m move, but his goal against West Brom ( I think ) proved valuable enough in the end. Think Gibbs starts ahead of him for now though

It was much less than £11m. And even £11m is nothing these days. Judging players on their transfer fees makes no sense anymore. Monreal didn't do anything spectacular, but he came halfway through the season. It would be best to judge him if he has a long run of games next year. A guy who was a regular for Malaga and is a Spain international should turn out to be a reliable player if nothing else.

[Gooner23]

I think he'll be a decent player for us. LB is probably the only position we actually have proper competition for.

[Master Splinter]

Anyone posted this yet?


Arsenal could be about to launch a double swoop for PSV midfielder Georginio Wijnaldum, 22, and winger Zakaria Bakkali, 17, reports the Daily Express (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/422051/Arsenal-plot-double-swoop-for-PSV-pair-Georginio-Wijnaldum-and-Zakaria-Bakkali?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29).

:lol:

Although, Wijnaldum looks good On Paper and has an awlsome name.

Sign him up tbh.

[Özim]

Anyone posted this yet?



:lol:

Although, Wijnaldum looks good On Paper and has an awlsome name.

Sign him up tbh.

It's funny cos Wijnaldum has a j before the n in his name.

Funny spelt names LOLZ just LOLZ

[Master Splinter]

Yes, well done.

[Unai Tea]

It's funny cos Wijnaldum has a j before the n in his name.

Funny spelt names LOLZ just LOLZ

He doesn't really. The i and the j are a single letter but only on dutch keyboards; consider it a y with two dots on it.

[Özim]

He doesn't really. The i and the j are a single letter but only on dutch keyboards; consider it a y with two dots on it.

Dutch Keyboards

Awful Keyboards :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger wants a right-back who can fit in with the Gunners' playing style

Guess this guy must be incredibly dull and uninspiring in that case. Let's get an underbid in at least.

[Munchies]

Gustavo off to Wolfsburg, who obviously offered the most in transfer fees/wages.

I'm done with this fucking club right now. Just when you think the player we've been in desperate need of becomes available, we can't even beat a team who aren't in the champions league. 4th each year, whats the point ?

[Cripps_orig]

Keep the faith my friend. We are at rock bottom and as a great woman once sang, the only way is up

[Cripps_orig]

Speaking of singers,

http://www.goal.com/en/news/article?contentId=4186604

Biggest must get of all time

[Cripps_orig]

No chance of getting Eriksen.

[Munchies]

Sometimes I feel very average, admits Wenger as Arsenal boss provides insight into life in charge of Gunners


'If you want to make a career at a big club you must be capable to believe in your abilities, and to keep them in perspective off the field also. You can have players who appear quickly to have a big talent, but if they cannot handle keeping their feet on the ground and continue to improve, they will be eliminated.

'If a player is only motivated by money he will not go far. Players are made rich very quickly, so if he has the money and is only motivated by money where does he go? The players at the top are people who have a very strong internal need to be the best.

'One of the difficult things of being a manager is to sack 14 people every Friday morning - and then re-employ them on a Monday morning and say: "Right, we start again - I take you back on board."'

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/14/article-0-1B3C26D2000005DC-732_634x423.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/14/article-0-000C612C00000258-210_634x496.jpg

Lol you are, get the fuck out now

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: what a wanker

who does their top button up on a polo shirt.

[milla]

Anyone posted this yet?



:lol:

Although, Wijnaldum looks good On Paper and has an awlsome name.

Sign him up tbh.

Would take Zakaria Bakkali kid, looks very good from either side of the flank. Has a bit of Robben and Hazard in him, if we wait 2-3 years, won't be able to afford his transfer fee. :coffee:

[Niall_Quinn]

Would take Zakaria Bakkali kid, looks very good from either side of the flank. Has a bit of Robben and Hazard in him, if we wait 2-3 years, won't be able to afford his transfer fee. :coffee:

So now would be the time to almost sign him.

[milla]

So now would be the time to almost sign him.

RIP Mindless Optimism Clique. :coffee:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Would take Zakaria Bakkali kid, looks very good from either side of the flank. Has a bit of Robben and Hazard in him, if we wait 2-3 years, won't be able to afford his transfer fee. :coffee:

scored a hat-trick last weekend....don't know if that was a good time to have scouted him or not.


Wenger will look at the scout report and not be impressed if he didn't run down a blind alley, give away possession....try a pass to a non-existent team mate when it was easier to shoot on goal himself.

[Niall_Quinn]

RIP Mindless Optimism Clique. :coffee:

I can't take any credit. It's all Wenger.

[milla]

I can't take any credit. It's all Wenger.

There is a reason why he is on £7 mil a year deal. Wumger :bow:

[milla]

scored a hat-trick last weekend....don't know if that was a good time to have scouted him or not.


Wenger will look at the scout report and not be impressed if he didn't run down a blind alley, give away possession....try a pass to a non-existent team mate when it was easier to shoot on goal himself.

Saw all three goals, this kid will be the next big thing. :coffee:

[Munchies]

Benteke broke a leg

Lucky we didn't sign him

Wenger :bow:

[Munchies]

Seems its a fake story :haha:

Wenger you idiot lol

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger is now on Twitter saying Suarez and all powerful defensive midfielders have broken their leg.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

perez denied work permit

the only promising player from pre-season and we cant even sign him :doh:

wenger :haha:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Gustavo off to Wolfsburg, who obviously offered the most in transfer fees/wages.

I'm done with this fucking club right now. Just when you think the player we've been in desperate need of becomes available, we can't even beat a team who aren't in the champions league. 4th each year, whats the point ?

cant find thisstory

[Cripps_orig]

Shows our ineptitude really. Surely they'd have checked if he'd get a work permit before giving him a trial.

Or does checking cost money which would explain why they didn't.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Shows our ineptitude really. Surely they'd have checked if he'd get a work permit before giving him a trial.

Or does checking cost money which would explain why they didn't.

nothing surprises me with this bastard club anymore.

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal target Luiz Gustavo - Bayern Munich's 26-year-old Brazil international midfielder - is set to join Wolfsburg for £12.8m.
Full story: Bild (in German)

Meanwhile, the Gunners will be told by Manchester City that 27-year-old Bosnia-Hercegovina striker Edin Dzeko is not for sale.
Full story: Daily Mail

But Arsenal have not given up hope of signing Liverpool striker Luis Suarez, 26, and are considering a final bid of £49m.
Full story: Daily Telegraph


:haha:

Swap for Giroud.

Why £49m?

[-Xs-]

:haha:

Swap for Giroud.

Why £49m?

Because it's 1 million short of their asking price. If it's true. Which its not. If it was true, we would have bid £49,999,999

[KSE Comedy Club]

Why the fuck are we letting gustavo join Wolfsburg for £12.8m

This club is fucking pathetic.

[Niall_Quinn]

No Ginter thread required


Germany under-21 defender Matthias Ginter, 19, has announced that he has no intention of moving from Freiburg to Arsenal. (Tribal Football)

[Niall_Quinn]

Here's our fearsome front line going into a new season. Not even sure they are all still here, some may have gone on loan.

N Bendtner, L Podolski, O Giroud, Y Sanogo, Z Ansah, B Afobe, S Watt, C Akpom.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I honestly cannot fathom what the fuck is going on with this club?

Even on a business level it makes absolutey no sense. Surely once the asset stripping is done then its time to sell up isn't it?

Will that be the surprise transfer on September 2nd, kronke out and usmanov or someone else in?

[Niall_Quinn]

The stadium, the turf, the cutlery - everything must go!

[Seaman's Ponytail]

cant find thisstory

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1522223/bayern-munichs-luis-gustavo-agrees-wolfsburg-move?cc=3436

[Seaman's Ponytail]

Here's our fearsome front line going into a new season. Not even sure they are all still here, some may have gone on loan.

N Bendtner, L Podolski, O Giroud, Y Sanogo, Z Ansah, B Afobe, S Watt, C Akpom.

You forgot the best of all, Ju Young Park, our secret weapon. Watt was amongst those we released on free transfers

[-Xs-]

We will sign him back up soon - will be like a new signing. Reduced pay of course.

[Ralpheroo72]

Apologies if this is old, but shows how the Bank of Arsenal are fairing:

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/

[Marc Overmars]

Why the fuck are we letting gustavo join Wolfsburg for £12.8m

This club is fucking pathetic.

Concrete proof of our reputation being in tatters should he join a midtable club for a cheaper fee and less wages.